Why you should never fold Kings preflop. By www.antesup.com

[iitstu]

Lol lets say this comes up bubble of the Main event... your 2nd in chips and get dealt KK the guy thats 1st in chips open shoves from utg... I dont care if the dude shows me 72 off im fucking folding...

[OsefKincaid]

@iitstu why? do you hate money?

[iitstu]

@OsefKincaid Re read my comment and try to figure out where you went wrong

[OsefKincaid]

@iitstu Don't you think having a 2 to 1 chiplead on the second biggest stack in the main is worth putting 10k$ in a 80-20 spot?

[iitstu]

@OsefKincaid I didnt know that he had a 2-1 chip lead, then yes in that case yes its a horrible fold. I'm just saying if you have a good enough stack that your going to make it into the money with your better off folding the bubble in spots where you could go broke, unless its a hand where you have the vilian completely crippled ex AA v AK or something like that.

[OsefKincaid]

@iitstu if you are second in chips at the bubble of the main event and you double up against the chipleader, you're generally going to end up with a 2 to 1 chiplead on second place stack. Just sayin'.

[iitstu]

@OsefKincaid or you lose that 20 percent and walk away with nothing

[wlzy]

@iitstu totally agree

even though the chances to lose are low againt a hand that is not aces, the loss could be huge

and if the other guy has Ax the chances are not so low

[ansionnachcliste]

Guys with a temper like that shouldn't play poker. Typical hard man Dubliner. I'm from Dublin also btw.

[chazsinohui]

If you have pocket kings and get reraised then get it all in pre flop if he has aces oh well that's poker

[devsvids]

@R088O you DID read the title for this vid, right?

[bestpokercoach]

That was hilarious

[Shirazae]

hell I folded AA preflop once. ghetto sit & go, smallest stack, six people left including myself and I was in the big blind with AA. the entire table went all-in ahead of me so I decided to sit back and watch. second-place stack won the hand, which secured my spot in the money. if I'd played that AA, I would have lost

but this video looks like it was a heads-up pot. if so, then I agree with the video title. never fold KK heads-up. just sayin', there's a time and a place for every play

[willngross89]

@Shirazae

still a bad fold.

[Shirazae]

@willngross89

in a cash game it would have been. but not in a sit and go

[5mirandasferrante5]

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[DragiTEaZZy]

He shouldnt even be playing if he cant control himself let alone deal with the outcomes of his decisions. Honestly grow up or go find a new hobby because you dont belong on the poker table...

[acisbad555]

I would be stealing some of his chips on the downlow because Im a piece of shit heroin addict

[LuisJohnson3]

сучарище

[MegaDannyboy90]

mardy twat dun that next to me i wud have knocked him sparko

[devsvids]

Fucksake

[PhantomXII]

does he say "fuck sake" or "Foxy"

[007mul]

@PhantomXII fuck sake

[marty800]

lol u guys are dumb i saw the jacks turned over first time i watched this. put it together with the title now... good job, poker players are supposed to be able to put 2 and 2 together. nice work

[joker22556]

chode.

[pabloernesto19]

lol

What a fucking idiot.

This guys can have millions, still 0 soul, pathetic.

[montyuk106]

What a pointless video. It's like calling a video 'Epic shark attack' and then just showing the shark swimming away after the attack....NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON

[devsvids]

Trevor folded his kings perflop and then was shown a pair of jacks by a friend of his who he believed had a pair of aces. He was "not happy". Trevs a nice guy though, he just lost his temper with himself here (no one else).



[R088O]

@devsvids It's statistically STUPID to fold KK, even if the other person by chance has Aces...it's just never a good fold.

[lvlarky]

@R088O statistically yes, but if you have a good poker read... watch?v=UgdgQBYmmqo

[CescoPisicoli]

***

I watched this vid over and over and the only thing i can think of that happened was that:

a) a dealer misdelt one of his cards and it flipped up so he folded face up in anger, where the dealer moved the cards into position to show the rest of the table which cards were flashed. Then the anger built up so much in him that his 'nice' hand got ruined that he fliped out and splashed the pot or

b) Too much action preflop & he felt his pocket Jacks were beat preflop to bigger pocket pair

[davidthrashdat]

hahaha aint it a bitch

[Probitas1]

KK is quite acceptable to push it in with, even if you do suspect AA. Even Daniel said he regretted it the one time he did it.

[dvonplayerf369]

there's no such thing as a coinflip with pocket aces preflop

[knightu2b]

1 time I folded AA pre flop but I was getting close to the 1-36 qualifiers for a big tournament and didn't want to risk it on a coin flip :)

[bourdinb]

@knightu2b You are an idiot

[knightu2b]

@bourdinb You are the idiot, you think you can't lose with pocket AA ...LOL

[liamthetwitch]

im guessing, he folded the best hand pre flop then, some one must of raised him all in with shit and he folded fearing Aces ??

and then as the irish do, cry, scream and go get some vodka :)

[lousydoma]

What a complete douchebag

[galeng]

Folding kings preflop is fine if you hate money.

[AWDracer]

@galeng LOL - it really depends on the situation.

[majacetic]

tell me. who in the poker hell FOLDS KINGS *PRE FLOP*

[UndercoverLdn]

@majacetic

Me, if 3 other tight players before me go all in preflop.

[MrAlanfinn]

exactly who the fuck folds KK pre-flop.. ah fully registered on the roll book handicap!

[bandet888]

I didn't see any hands!

[thegreekist]

the only thing i know is that hes from dublin!! fuck sake in dubkin accent!

[Str8flu2h]

who tha fuk folds kings pre flop

[Damien333]

dooooooooosh

[jflaliberte]

Please help us. How brains are so small that we do not comprehend what just happened. Did the person who posted this video on youtube openly admitted that he was gay ? Any input about the poster of this video openly coming out of the closet would truly be appreciated...

[Alfzz]

wtf happened?

[flyboimomo121]

wow! i was waiting for him to jump on the table or knock over everybody's chips

[philthytavi]

wth happend? i don't get it...

[theherooftime2]

FUCK SAKE

[vladito10]

all u can do is laugh at this fool

[qWeer0ne]

LOL wow what a fucking baby!

[nobodymm]

I dont get it though, did the other guy have QQ or something?

Whats the point of this video you cant even tell what really happened, just a dude acting like many girlfriends ive had. Like a bitch.

[Recovrd1]

lol

[daveygravey123456]

@nobodymm JJ dik head open your eyes

[3DeepCuts]

@nobodymm this comment has 44 thumbs up? wow youtubers are retards.

[krok1]

HAHAHAH

[VitaiSlade]

Wow...just...wow. Horrible etiquette. If you can't control yourself enough to not do THAT at a poker table, you shouldn't be playing. This is pathetic...worse than Hellmuth, and he at least has an excuse to some of the shit he does.

[guppy4527]

I know some places where that guy would get punched in the face for a stunt like that.

[VitaiSlade]

He SHOULD have gotten punched in the face for a stunt like that. And THEN banned from the cardroom. Not even Hellmuth would do something that stupid.

[guppy4527]

They should provide a bouncer that does punch people in the face that do things like that. Then throws them out. :-)

[IIhollyw00dII]

seriously 4-1 wtf is wrong with you

[IIhollyw00dII]

your getting 4-1 ? how the fuck do u no what odds hes getting lmao, i dont see four people all in with only him to call? and good luck becoming good if u cant let go of kk

[littlegabo160]

you cant know what the odds are without knowing how much he has to call, and how much is in the pot...what does 4 people being all in have to do with that if you dont know how much moneys in the pot

[guppy4527]

This is an assumption that it's an all in situation to this guy, which is correct. Being that it's an all in situation, for it to be 4-1 pot odds, there would have to be 4 people with more chips than him already invested in the pot with more chips than he has.

[g2daman01]

i agree with the comment below even if u think aces its just unlucky most time ur way ahead wat a retard for doing that

[yamomsmaslide]

who the fuck folds kings pre-flop ??? your getting 4-1 its an easy all-in if it comes down to it ... seriously who the fuck folds kings ???

[Randy1337]

There are situations where you can fold kings.You raise UTG and you are very deepstacked, let`s say 500BB, you get reraised by the Big Blind who also has 500BB.You 4 Bet him and he shoves allin with his stack.Whatelse will he probably have then Aces?I hope i made this clear.These situations are obv. very rare cuz you seldom sit down with 500BB, usually you got about 100BB, where you can easy shove or call a shove

[yamomsmaslide]

you dont fold KK pre-flop when your getting 4:1 on the call ... even if you may THINK he has AA you still shove and make your move. any pro will make the all-in in that situation. if he would have saw a flop and a A hit , then Maybe you think it over and lay it down but pre-flop iTS AN ALL-IN. some ppl raise crazy with all-in having just AQ or AK so just cuz someone pushes all-in doesnt always mean you have AA.

[guppy4527]

You could've been playing for awhile to work up to 500BB. :-)

[bustednutdraw]

good answer.

[Randy1337]

Hehe, i had to find my comment first cuz it`s so long ago.Thx buddy :-)

[8to1fav]

retards

[Tazmac21]

by the way as a result of this im now sponcered by prozac ...tanx for all the colourful comments .......trev

[Tazmac21]

if ya care to understand this read from bottom up last 3 messages

[Tazmac21]

i went blank and didnt realise what i done till i saw video it was a reaction of 3 days pressure i knew i fooked up to go chip leader 68 runners left for possibly 800k euro simple i messed up and possibly fooked my 1 chance to win a huge tourney yes i was out of order yes now i would call every time but then i was not confident enouhg by the way a week earlier kk cost me10k in same position at a final table when i ran into aa and qq so i guess that was in my mind bad manners and play

[Tazmac21]

not want to go 3 way for tournament life possible up again ak aa or qq and ak so i said to the guy that shoved u have ? the problem was that the tell i got wa he was so confident in what he had he must have had aces knowin he would get called by utg unless he had boots aa so after 4mins oftorture i fold because i put the 3500 euro up myself and at break i promised myself at break i would take money if i got intoposition so i fold utg folds he turns over jj i snapped unfortunately

[Tazmac21]

ok this is my vid i''l try explain my terrible behaviour...b4 the break 110 runners i get crippled to just 1 bb virtually out of tournament as that happens break comes i go to room broken after 2 and a half days i come back any way i get upto about 90k remember hour earlier i had 3k as the hand unfolds guy rock utg raises to 24k its 3/6k and im bb raiser is rock and quite big raise utg has turned big hands folds to small b instant shoves just over 90k utg has 190k i look down see kk think i do

[BoSoxnation1972]

has to be European...in America..the waitress would have cut his balls off and called him a bitch...

[fredbe31]

so stupid what a loser should be remove from the table and go fuk hemself

[janemba210]

wth was the flop?????

[Nudlaufguss]

o.o? i don't get it either...

[durks2514]

everyone folded round to the small blind who raised. the big blind, trevor mcgoona (the guy who palmed the chips) then reraised. the sb immediately went all in and after thinking for a couple of minutes mcgoona folded and showed his kings. the sb then turned over 99 and thats when the video starts. he got a 20 minute penalty for his actions.

why anyone would fold kings in this situation is beyond me

[TALIBANBOYOreturns]

kneecap the little scrote.

[smudgey6120]

fooks sake lol

[elitedonk]

What a prick should be disqualified for that shit

[smccr04]

mother jokes never get old lol

[wowowowye1]

People like this are ruining live poker

[mickfar1]

no need to throw his chips all over the table.serves him right.

[dreampaul]

9\1 to flop a set

[fack98]

that was awesome

[DdragonforceF]

im confused, what happened? did the guy with kings fold and the other guy showed his queens?

[MrCheckRaise1]

yeah that's probably what happened, the opponent had jacks or queens, indeed you can see two face cards turned over at his right when he punches his stack, as he had already thrown his kings into the muck.

[ramsme0301]

wtf he can still be bustes in the board so why he goes so crazy lols...

[disfiguration]

wtf are you talking about, dumbass

[ramsme0301]

im talking about your mommy, i saw her oder the table between the legs of that guy.

[MrCheckRaise1]

what happened? did the guy who splashed his stack fold kings face up preflop and the opponent did not show aces?:D

[AAreraise]

Poteva avere in mano qualsiasi cosa,ma un gesto del genere a un tavolo da poker non è ammissibile...

[Chrischi7777]

in some situations, you can fold kings, even aces

[Jordanime]

when pray tell would you fold aces pre-flop?

[zackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

haha, seriously

[ColdHearted]

when the other guy has jokers, you donk.

[Jordanime]

ahh yes of course

[thirteenlisk]

When you are chip leader, on the bubble in a tournament where the prize is entry into a bigger tournament and there are already two people all in.

[natethomas2003]

ok for everybody saying..."never ever fold kings preflop"...obviously has never grinded through hours and days of tournament play a situatin will arise where folding kings pre means the diff between cashing or being bubble boy. however, it is rare. i think i have done it twice and both times i would have lost. once to AA that a guy showed out of courtesy cuz i showed him the kings. and once i would have lost to AK in a 3way pot.

[superdave31]

in a tournament regardless of whether it means being the bubble boy you will not be folding kings pre flop i know i wouldnt

[mcmanusdown]

?? He mucks and seat 2 shows QQ?

[DanielLukic]

The only way I would fold Kings pre-flop is if the other guy turned the Aces over so I could see them lol

[skearo75013]

nice one hahahaha

[musicizgood]

i would never ever fold kings under any circumstance besides post flop .. if there is a raise and a call its insta reraise for me.. sometimes perhaps insta shove because i know i'll get called.. theres only 6 ways (correct me if wrong) to deal aces.. trust me when i say i'm not worried about it.. theres such a miniscule chance thats what you're up against

[martymars]

Never fold kings.

[kevsteele32]

I've never folded KQ suited pre flop never mind KK - what a fish

[sk8erJG95]

Lmao, KQ suited? Really?

[chavmanx]

you've never folded KQ suited pre flop... yopu're the fish sir, i'll find you on stars :P

[snapsalot]

Its really a play you only wanna do once or twice a year usually, but for those 3 times I was almost 100% sure i was up against aces, I really wish id of just gone with my read and folded cause you feel like a pretty big donkey after going all in with kings when your oppenent flips over aces.

[rebe12354]

how would you feel like a donkey turning over kings? when the other guy has aces.. its a cooler. I dont think you even play poker?

[superdave31]

i think when you have king vs aces its more a case of ogh well im just going to lose a lot of money rather than the above sitatuation happening

[snapsalot]

this movie is lame. Because for the 3 times in my long poker career that i was genuinely wanting to fold kings, 2 times the guys did have aces but i went all in anyways like a fish and the other time he had kings. Im not saying its a play you wanna do a lot.

[WTFdropkick]

You just CANNOT do that. For everytime your opponent has AA, there will be ten times your opponent has AK, AQ, QQ, JJ etc...possibly even worse hands if the player is lose enough

[GaeasBlessing]

If you put your opponent on exactly AA, you should call as you would with any pocket pair and hope to flop a set.

[Progfan1978]

You know the chances of flopping a set?

[Ayoudell]

I couldn't figure this out right away but I read the comments. Anyway, Yeah, You would have to have some 100% reliable tell on an opponent to fold KK before the flop. TJ Cloutier writes about doing it in his book(co-written by Tom McEvoy) but he knew his opponent very well(He knew this guy would ONLY come over the top of a reraise w/aces.) People push with all sorts of hands, and there's just too strong a possibility your opponent could be holding AK,AQ,QQ,JJ,10's or below. Horrible fold:-(

[gibblesmorrison]

never fold KK pre. that guy needs to go suck a fuck.

[bookieko]

well, he lost some chips by folding already... yet he wants to risk most of his chips getting stolen. LOL

[stealdan]

Jacks shown to folded Kings, Dude from accross the pond flips the fuck out and knocks his chips everywhere. Jackass!

[KASPLARFO]

What an amusing little no-balls clown.

Probably an americon.

[stealdan]

Jackass u can clearly hear his limy acent

[whoweare]

Limey? But he's not British... he's Irish.

[LarryTheSwanson]

1. balls in poker? good 1 idiot

2. ur american comment is just stupid. ur a bitch stfu faggot

[Atheist47]

This video makes no sense. Did the guy walking away from the table fold kings before the flop? And did the flop include a king or two? We can't tell, because this 19-second video doesn't show anything. Why even bother?

It's clearly just an ad for this antesup website. God, this is getting pathetic. So many websites are trying to attract customers by uploading short and uninteresting videos with their company name or address somewhere in the title/description.

Just pathetic.

[Murdererer]

Guy is reraised all in and folds kings. Is Shown Jacks and flips out. What's there not to understand? lol

[downtownlife]

yea.. I figured that out in under 19 seconds too.. I hope your at my table some day, Atheist donkey.

[richsmoove2121]

he should of called

[methodman666x]

I dont get this video title at all!! All it shows is a prick that needed bangin out!!!

[GameOverXbox]

I still dont get why you fold kings preflop. Idk maybe I missed something.

[cupchange]

good job at fucking explaining the video, you dumb cunt.

[necropedophilia]

Uhm... I don't need a reason to NOT fold kings pre-flop...

[HinataHyuugaNeji]

The only time I would fold Kings would probably be around the bubble, hoping that one knocks the other out. If your going to be fancy and start folding Kings preflop putting someone on aces, then you are going to lose alot of pots.

[Cheetah102]

da fawk! LMAO

[ironbyron99]

what a goof

[wiremanart]

talk about a good poker face.

[MrCanuck]

Okay, what is going on in this video again? Who folded KK and who and why is acting all pissed?

[AlexisCapri]

should be banned from every tournament he ever plays again, the donk.

[holdemkingz]

da fawk!

[Hegder]

I can't really tell what's going on in this video, but how close to the bubble was this hand? The only time you could feasibly fold pocket Kings preflop is if there are a couple of players e all in ahead of you and it's so close to the bubble that it's not worth calling just in case one of them manages to suck out against you. That's what Lee Nelson reckons anyway.

[banqu0]

FUCKS SAKE!@!!!#!@$#!@

[b0oda]

i dont get why he is so angry..? did he fold kings and the other guy showed a worse hand?

[Sopol]

yes

[Thundercat32]

Jacks???

[buuu82]

because i didnt laydown K-K preflop i lost all my money in cashgame, he had A-A :/

--> he raise --> i re-raise --> he re-re-raised (for a moment i thought it smells like Aces, what was true)

but.. i called.. and lost.. the chance is so low that someone got Aces when u have K-K.

Poker always good for a surprise

[jaytheriver]

hey the odds for someone to have aces are the same regardless of what cards you get... unless you're dealt any aces.

[freesnowcone]

but the odds of someone having aces WHILE you are holding kings are low

[DBirdie]

Only 44to1 in a 6 handed game.

[liu11]

yep, the only time i would fold KK is against a huge stack while i have a huge stack and i get reraised, Qs i wouldn't have a problem once i get reraised preflop

[JSMGS07]

U CANNOT fold kings pre-flop! There is only ONE single hand that is better than your kings pre-flop, pocket aces, which u can get in 6 different ways. If I remember correct there is around 1.5 million different ways to get some Teaxas Hold'em hand. If u run into aces with ur kings it's just bad luck and there was nothing u could do about it. It happens, even for the best.

[8to1fav]

I totally agree. U notice how so many people say "o ive folded kings b4, or I read him for aces, and so on..." but Queens, shit thats a different story. lol

[boydie40]

check out folded kings a guys done in on tv pre-flop against aces

[slowdive23]

SO when the chips scattered everywhere, what did the dealer do to account for the players chips? In that case, I think there should be a BB/Ante penalty for such misconduct

[mazenblu]

Always love it when someone says, "trust me". lol... Trust me, I never trust them once they say that.

[8to1fav]

Never fold KK preflop u tards, Think about this, out of how many times uve gotten dealt KK hows many times has someone had AA when u had the KK? Not that often... Trust me I play live poker many times a week for years.

and Rarely someone has AA when i have KK.