The new Boss 302 is the Highest Reving V8 Ford has ever made, This is a Fact!
I own a 2012 Boss, and Ive owned many 69 Mach1s,The old cars are nice, but these cars nowadays are way more powerful and perform better, Its just basic evolution of any car or Truck.
I read couple articles about the Boss 302's over heating on the track after like 5 laps. Been on ford forums but cant find anything on youtube. Ford is offering a new grille, radiator and oil cooler. They saying ford said in manual to remove grill when running on the track.
The mustang started as a badass muscle car in the 60's. At about 1974 Ford Ruined the mustang. Then In the 90's they made it better, but it was still ugly.
In 2004 they made it an awesome sports car that was fast and sexy, but it was missing the badass mean Rumble look. In 2010 they made it one step ahead to being badass. Now, The Boss 302 is back and more badass than before.
camaro zl1 released 580 hp.....zl1 will barely be faster than the gt500 and boss 302 in both straight line and track, but it will be faster.....just wait n see
@richierch597 horsepower has nothing to do with anything in drag or track the 412hp regular 5.0 still beat the 426hp camaro ss and still the new 470hp srt8 is exactly the same in the 1/4 mile as the newer 5.0 I don't hate on these cars I own the new 5.0 but supercharge the boss laguna seca and then test it against the zl1 track and drag that would be interesting
My only worry is that despite it's upgraded suspension and brakes, that it still feels like a muscle car. I know it has M3 cornering abilities, but I want to make sure it feels like it too.
mustangs and camaros were the uni-body pony cars not musclecars in 60's...musclecar is a big 3600-4200lb sedan. new camaro is 3800-4k lbs NOT a pony car..only mustang is
@SOFSoldier1 Defective gears slipped thru the QC process that were too soft & wore down quickly. It only affected 1 in several 1000 transmissions that were in the production pipeline, sitting on dealer lots or on the road once the problem came to light. Too few Mustangs had a potentially bad trans to issue a recall or tear down the 1s in stock. The problem is fixed but I'd check for a later production date of a new 2011 Mustang before I'd buy, just in case. Still not a 'deal breaker' either way.
The 2012 mustang gt I have heard has a multi link rear suspension but every reviewer says all mustangs from the v6 to the gt500 have a live rear axle. ford website also says multi link rear suspension for all mustangs when you compare the cars side by side. so which is it?
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Mustangs are boring, there's Too many of them. I mean come on how many different versions of the mustang can you have ? Boss?saleen?roush?cobra? There old an played out regardless of what version u have it's still a shitty mustang
@HW2800 What is wrong with it not being automatic? You get to chose when to change, the stupid computer doesn't do it for you, manual transmissions weigh less, and they usually have a bigger aftermarket than the automatic transmissions. This Boss 302 is made for drivers, not pussy foot grocery getters and gift shopping.
@undeadkillers Grandma's shouldn't be driving sports cars anyways. When I see an 80 year old bitch going 40 mph in the fast lane driving a mustang/challenger/charger/camaro or any car that has speed, it pisses me off. And the only reason they put automatics in these types of cars is because grandma's that don't remember how to shift can drive them, slowly.
@undeadkillers auto is best for 1/4 mile and stick is best for the track, as for daily drivers I think its up to the persons preference. I have a stick car and it gets annoying sometimes. And this car was made for 50 year old guys who wanna relive there youth, majority of these cars sold will never even remotely be driven the way there supposed to be, so calling them a drivers car, idk.
@fahque69692 These were NOT made for 50 year old guys wanting there youth back...no mustang back then was this fast and this car is amazing... you don't know much about cars do you...
@HW2800 yea, the porsche 911 gt3 doesnt come with an auto either . . . and they never sell out of ANY of those . . . or the corvette zr1 . . . if u want an automatic, buy a family sedan.
@HW2800 LMFAO anyone with a pair of balls.. what are you a woman LMFAO come on... im 17 and i drive my manual 99 cobra no problem... lmfao your a noob
@sergsrt8 not true the camaro was born from the track too but the new camaro is a poor example of a platform with too much damn weight and the same goes with the new mustang these modern muscle car have no areodynamics or goodcorning abilty to match its modern high powered engines however the 3rd and 4th gen camaros with 450-600lbs lighter with modern engines and suspension including mustangs would make these cars look silly and the gens i spook of would easily be in the gt40s class
@91battlered What? Lol...the mustang doesn't have good cornering ability? Since when? Europeans just aren't used to driving on the limit with a live axle....but then again, I started out powersliding pickup trucks so I wouldn't expect Europeans to understand it.
@fitz207 Ford was working on that 5.0 engine way before the camaro came out. i guess you think ford was able to make that great engine in one year. lol
The previous model GT500 was faster than the SS Camaro by about .03 of a second 0-60 but the SS on a track with difficult turns would destroy the GT500...
That was last gen though. I am all for this Boss 302, I want to see it run Nurburgring! Pretty sure the Boss will beat the SS's time but who knows.
In the Camaro fans defense the SS is near $10K cheaper than the boss, mods aren't out of the question, but Stock you probably get what you pay for with the Boss :P
I think the days of "Muscle Cars" are dead. Everything about all the "Muscle" cars from the big three are for being pure sports cars. Sure this is still a mustang ... and yes it has a live axel and a big V8 ... but it beat a Audi AWD R8 around Laguna Seca! If I had 40 grand for a new car I know exactly where I would spend it!
@SauceCaptain: You are right. The "Muscle cars" are dead. But welcome to the "Modern day Muscle cars". :) They've got better transmissions, much better suspension, and this new boss 302 is actually lighter giving it all around better performance.
@SauceCaptain what. the fuck? You do know that "muscle cars" were both drag raced AND road raced right? I hate all the ignorance that permeates throughout the automotive "enthusiast" world. You had the Boss 429 which were monsters in the straight but then you had the Boss 302 that dominated Trans-Am road racing. ZL1's were drag strip sleepers while the Z/28 competed in the road courses.
Muscle cars were NOT somehow magically limited to only drag racing prowess.
@SauceCaptain nothings changed other than the bar for performance, 40 years ago the boss 302 was still THE car to have for circuit racing, just as it is again here, only thing that has changed in 40 years is the bar for what a performance car is
@SauceCaptain The term "Muscle car" came when these cars actually had some balls in a straight line. Despite the fact that we still would like to call them "Muscle cars", they are in fact nothing more than glorified economy cars with fancy paint jobs. The true muscle car is dead as we know it, unless you have the rare blessing to possess something that was made before 1975 and that doesn't bare a Chevrolet tag on it.
@oFFtheWall518 Yeah except every single new muscle car today is way better in every aspect than the old "muscle" cars. I'd rather have an older car for the experience, but not to drive everyday, which you could do in comfort and safety with any of the big threes new muscle cars.
@oFFtheWall518 Your wrong, These are Muscle cars and a very good one at that. If you owned one of these and a old one, you woulndt even want to drive the old one, Trust me on this Ive had many many old classic Mustangs.
Damn you youtubers can't even argue about cars well anymore. There are VERY LITTLE FACTS BEING STATED, it's just a bunch of opinions....you guys have ruined it.
@pjwallington Motor Trend got 3.97s to 60 with a stock Boss Mustang and they said there was a 3.90s 60 in the car with a better surface. The car actually produces around 475 hp at the crank and does the 1/4 in 12.3s or better stock, for around $43,000 that's tough to beat.
watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc
Then click on the link and read the article by MT
The 2012 Boss Mustang will give you more bang for the buck than just about any other car.
Still Faster than the fatty Cramero. This should put Ford Over the top in the Muscle Car segment. I am a Ford Tech. and I can`t wait to have one on my lift.
i saw a 2010 v6 mustang automatic with boss 302 stripes on it today. it made me want to punch a baby. i really hope people dont start making their v6's into "boss 302's"
@bobanppvc Unfortunately since manufacturers often rate BHP higher than what you really get (because of gearbox, radior and a/c losses accounting for about 15% loss) most cars are slightly overrated, watch: watch?v=YjuOAveqybw&feature=related I'm sure the next m5 will be beast though. Watch this and compare to the m5 video watch?v=XonbZwYcIM0
@GTRacer212 No not Jealousy just trying to save some people money by wasting it on this car before waiting for the new Z28 next year. Also hate to be the bearer of bad news for the Mustang what with Camaro KILLING IT IN SALES & ALL BUT THE NEW 2014 CAMARO WILL BE ON THE NEW ALPHA PLATFORM WITH LESS WEIGHT.
The Camaro is slower on each competing level than the Mustang whether it's V6, 5.0 V8, or GT500. It's really funny because even the new ZL1 will be slower than the GT500 considering it's to produce the same hp but weigh 300 pounds more. There is simply no comparison. And if you're so smitten by the Camaro design, then you should thank Ford for that too. After all, the throw back design success was started by Ford. Dodge and GM just hopped on board for ride.
@StangpedePlus1 Just another pissed Ford Fanboy because no one buys Mustang anymore. Keep frowning while we keep smiling outselling you every month lol. Also you must really not know anything about the new ZL1 it has some carbon fiber parts which makes it lighter than your average SS. And DONT EVER compare a Ford design to the new Camaro design ONLY the Camaro wins 2010 Car Design of the Year not Mustangs.
Holy cow you're a friggin idiot, Ford invented the pony car class by making the Mustang, and then Chevy copied Ford by making the Camaro. Ford sold over 8 million Mustangs and Chevy sold under 5 million Camaros. And Chevy did stop making the Camaro for 8 years because they weren't competing well against the Mustang. And it was Ford's idea to retro-style the new Mustang for 2005, what did Chevy do? They copied them! Ford Mustang is better, faster, and more popular.
@RulerOfTheKings How is the Mustang more popular when the new Camaro has been outselling the Mustang the past 2 years? Who cares if they stopped making the Camaro for 7 years its back now better than ever and it is just going to keep improving and outselling the Mustang month after month. February 2011 Mustang sales- over 3,000 Camaro sales- over 6,000 dont believe me look it up! You mad? Plus the ZL1 smoke the gay Shelby GT500 and Corvette owns all of ford so go cry now!
@EclipseGS04 Hmm, lets see, ay? There would be NO Camaro or Challenger if Ford didn't invent the Mustang, am I right? Dude, the Mustang has less hp and torque and still whoops the Camaro's and Challenger's ass in a 1/4 mile. Hey, don't get mad because GM turned down Shelby when he chose to go to GM first. Ford took him in, invented the Shelby mustang and whooped some ass. I'm gonna laugh when Ford makes GM go bankrupt again. And Camaro's sells can keep going, Mustang's still best selling overall
@EclipseGS04 Nobody is crying, a 5.0 pony car is faster than a corvette grand sport. However the Camaro's sales are only so high because when ford brought out the 2010 Mustang it still had the old 4.6L. Wait for the 2012 sales reports to come out. History will repeat itself.
@EclipseGS04 Out selling the mustang for 1 year since the mid 80's is not that big of an accomplishment. By those standards the Fbody was a pile of crap with it's low ass sales figure enough to put the camaro out for almost a decade. Besides, anyone making 50,000 cars will outsell the other making 40,000 cars. The question is, who will sell them all?
@hugoloves2spooge Well if the Camro outselling the Mustang for 2 years straight isnt that big of an accomplishment then the 5.0 beating the Camaro for 1 year is not a big accomplishment either considering that the Camaro has generally always been faster than the Mustang up until the 5th gens since they are so heavy.
@EclipseGS04 The mustang is better than ever, which is why they made the commercial promotion of it, ford has also made a DUB edition v6 mustang. The only problem I have with camaros are the low rooflines, they just need to make the roofline higher and possibly shed a few hundred pounds off of the car.
@ironsaber2 Hmmmm gotta disagree with you on that one. The two muscle cars might have one or two design features in common, but they're still worlds apart as far as styling is concerned.
@StangpedePlus1 This comment is pure idiocy. You forget that the mustang GT wasn't even a contender until the camaro SS raised the performance standard. If the camaro and challenger didn't come out Ford would still be building those crappy 4.6 motors in their cars. Also how do you know the ZL1 will be slower? There's hardly any info on it yet.
Ford is also not the first make to do a retro design, giving them credit for the camaro's design is retarded on so many lessons. You're a fanboy
@BlueAvenue22 But your comments can used both ways. There would be no Camaro or Challenger if there was no Mustang. Got proof the 4.6 motor is crap? I haven't heard anything from police departments around the country who use the 4.6 on a daily basis to confirm this. ZL1 may or may not be slower, but it's a pretty good bet it won't handle as well as the Boss. Ford was the 1st to come out with the retro design for the pony car.
@StangpedePlus1 Well i think Chrysler started the trend with the PT cruiser then ford with the mustang, but I still think the 2011 stangs are the best.
@StangpedePlus1 ah but that is until the new shelby launches in 2012, 650hp 200+mph top speed, all stock, its going to be competing with the corvettes apparently, but we'll see, the new camaro however wont have anything on the new mustang
@StangpedePlus1 Actually the throw back design was really started buy Plymouth and chrysler with the Prowler and even (regrettably) the Pt loser. Everybody's product has its goods and bad's man. If that wasn't true then only one of them would sell at all. Yes I am aware that more mustangs are sold than the others but it's not by an overwhelming margin. Some people like their Camaros, some like the challengers, and others like the mustangs. I personally like them all.
@EatmyDust1311 there are more than 4 versions of the mustang. the v6, the gt, the cobra, the mach1, the boss, the shelby, the roush, the saleen, the saleen extreme
Okay fools time to set the story straight, THIS IS NOT A BLOODY SUPERCAR. IF YOU WANT A BLOODY HIGH PERFORMING CAR GET THE CORVETTE ZO6 CARBON, CORVETTE ZR1 AND NISSAN GT-R ALL FOR A 5 FIGURE PRICE TAG. THIS CAR IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A LOW PERFORMING MUSCLE CAR, THIS IS JUST FOR FUN AND NOTHING ELSE, THIS WILL NOT SET RECORD TRACK TIMES!
By the way next yr is already announced for gt and boss 302 you can already order. I think it will be proven a good track car decent street at least the base model. Nice high revving engine don't see that much anymore w domestic v8's. So look over the new boss 2013 it is striped like a 70 boss was and some different colors.
@vasco10506 Ill agree they are similar cars. But a large percentage of the M3 buyers are looking for a performance car with a bit of luxary. But really the M3 isnt that luxurious. what does it really have over heated seats, ac, a nice audio system etc? Sure its a bit more electronically refined but its also a lot less efficent. If i were looking at both cars regardless of price, i would drive away in the mustang. And yes ive driven the new M3 and GT.
Because its better than anything else in its price range and class by leaps and bounds. Why the fuck else? Or are you one of those brain damaged kids?
What color is on that car? Grabber Orange!!! If so then I want that color on my dream car....11 gt 500. :)
PS: Let the guy make it, We all have a job to do. I actually think this was just a "sights and sounds" version of the new boss. I dont think that Ford has even let car mags. test it yet. This is still better than reading the same ole stories we have heard about the boss for like a year now.
@Leonidae lol u just chickened out! ive got a 355000 km mustang and drive it year round in canada. its not a big deal if you know how to power out. Ive never felt like it was dangerous to drive anywhere any other sports coupe could go. IRS is nice and im not doubting that it is a more advanced technology, but it also is heavier and weaker.
@DaBluedude100 If you didn't feel that it was dangerous, you weren't pushing it hard enough. Try doing ~70-100mph on narrow gravel road that's snaking through a forest and then say that it didn't feel dangerous.
@Leonidae Lol. And that wouldn't be dangerous in a IRS car? Get real guy. I slide my mustang around all winter over washboard ice and it's no big deal. And as for cracked mountain roads it's about knowing when to power off. No big deal. It's a great way to learn car control.
@Leonidae True but your examples poor. Over rough roads there is a slight difference. But a lot of that comes from poor driver control. Normal driving conditions make no difference. I would still rather have the worlds best sra over a half assed IRS like the terminator cobra, camaro and challenger get.
This is a great looking Mustang for sure. For some odd reason, the front end reminds me of the Giugiaro concept that was from a few years back. I dunno, could be the color, lol.
@CONAPOWA Of the over 210 vehicles Motor Trend tested in 2010, the 2011 Mustang GT made the top 10 most impressive.
On the outset, the thought of comparing a Mustang to a M3 elicited confused shock. But then we tested the two, and things became simply bewildering. The Mustang narrowly bested the M3 in every performance metric. It passed the quarter mile mark 0.1 second faster. It stopped from 60 mph two feet shorter. Its average lateral acceleration was 0.01 g higher.
Listen to all the BMW and/or GM fanbois whine about a live axle. A live axle that beats the 2011 M3 (with only the Mustang GT mind you), and trashes the Camaro and Challenger.
"BUT IT HAS A LIVE AXLE WAAAAAA" and it is still less expesnive, handles better, gets better gas milage and is faster than the M3, Camaro and Challenger.
nice laugh man 1:18
abudi1995 1 week ago
This guy has a very creepy laugh....
Stangy04 2 weeks ago
nice car,except it looks it was designed by kids lol
hamdanae12 3 weeks ago
This is one "shrill" video. =p
marcuswlnd3 1 month ago
I want this video on my S500 phone.
mitchellmira13 1 month ago
M3 ..... I AM YOUR FATHER !!!
CHUUMPASS 1 month ago
or Homo-omatics
jg11596 1 month ago
where I come from Automatics are called Queer-omatics...
jg11596 1 month ago
Sounds Amazing!!!
Fultzy02 2 months ago
rather drive a prius
socalpimp1974 2 months ago
This video went viral on N'Djamena
rolandhensle24 2 months ago
@benidefelice Why the hell would you want a Boss in an automatic?! The Boss is a true street legal race car, real race cars aren't automatics
guitar16player 2 months ago
with 2011 ford f150 make a 302
TheDan4279 4 months ago
all those annoying, unnecessary decals have to go...staright black...bad bitch
kstuckey8 4 months ago
This car is quite boring to look at.
blaknite1 4 months ago
The 302 of the 60' s probably liked to revv a lot more than the 5.0L today.
ryansiki 4 months ago
@ryansiki Not at all. This redlines at 7500 RPM. Idk what the 60's was but it wasn't even close.
greendayrules11 2 months ago
@ryansiki
The new Boss 302 is the Highest Reving V8 Ford has ever made, This is a Fact!
I own a 2012 Boss, and Ive owned many 69 Mach1s,The old cars are nice, but these cars nowadays are way more powerful and perform better, Its just basic evolution of any car or Truck.
unrealford 2 months ago
You say it's a live axle car like that's a bad thing. Lol
ssimon64 5 months ago
Whats so bad about a live axle???
MrMister1227 5 months ago
I read couple articles about the Boss 302's over heating on the track after like 5 laps. Been on ford forums but cant find anything on youtube. Ford is offering a new grille, radiator and oil cooler. They saying ford said in manual to remove grill when running on the track.
IXGQ4LifeXI 5 months ago
Mmmmmmmhhhmmmmm
cmphillips97 5 months ago
The mustang started as a badass muscle car in the 60's. At about 1974 Ford Ruined the mustang. Then In the 90's they made it better, but it was still ugly.
In 2004 they made it an awesome sports car that was fast and sexy, but it was missing the badass mean Rumble look. In 2010 they made it one step ahead to being badass. Now, The Boss 302 is back and more badass than before.
legosrule111 6 months ago 18
@legosrule111 feo tu pendejo. no hay mustangs feos todos son unikos lo que es no saber de autos animal.
TheReach941 1 month ago
camaro zl1 released 580 hp.....zl1 will barely be faster than the gt500 and boss 302 in both straight line and track, but it will be faster.....just wait n see
richierch597 6 months ago
@richierch597 horsepower has nothing to do with anything in drag or track the 412hp regular 5.0 still beat the 426hp camaro ss and still the new 470hp srt8 is exactly the same in the 1/4 mile as the newer 5.0 I don't hate on these cars I own the new 5.0 but supercharge the boss laguna seca and then test it against the zl1 track and drag that would be interesting
emelioDC 5 months ago
@richierch597 lol how about the new 2013 gt500? it hits over 200mph and has 650hp and 600lb-ft of torque :)
NismoxToPSpeed 1 month ago
Like what i said BOSS 3O2 Can Kill Camaro ZL1!
but they have just jealous that the boss is over 444 HP & zl1 is over 555 HP!
HamadHHAG 6 months ago 2
My only worry is that despite it's upgraded suspension and brakes, that it still feels like a muscle car. I know it has M3 cornering abilities, but I want to make sure it feels like it too.
buttnut1080 6 months ago
mustangs and camaros were the uni-body pony cars not musclecars in 60's...musclecar is a big 3600-4200lb sedan. new camaro is 3800-4k lbs NOT a pony car..only mustang is
05EVORS 6 months ago
The Mustang and Camaro have become sports cars. The Challenger is the only muscle car left...heavy car and a 392 engine..
PL3690 6 months ago
Have they fixed the defective transmissions and shifters yet? Do a YOUTUBE search.....
SOFSoldier1 7 months ago
@SOFSoldier1 Defective gears slipped thru the QC process that were too soft & wore down quickly. It only affected 1 in several 1000 transmissions that were in the production pipeline, sitting on dealer lots or on the road once the problem came to light. Too few Mustangs had a potentially bad trans to issue a recall or tear down the 1s in stock. The problem is fixed but I'd check for a later production date of a new 2011 Mustang before I'd buy, just in case. Still not a 'deal breaker' either way.
acs4llc 7 months ago
The 2012 mustang gt I have heard has a multi link rear suspension but every reviewer says all mustangs from the v6 to the gt500 have a live rear axle. ford website also says multi link rear suspension for all mustangs when you compare the cars side by side. so which is it?
coolkingsofa 8 months ago
wah wah it has a live axle, shut the fuck up it beats an AWD audi r8 v8 supercar on laguna seca.
Storm7289 8 months ago 5
what are the 2 keys for
1FIFABEAST 8 months ago
how much will this car be
1FIFABEAST 8 months ago
Got a new 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 at my granddad house. Shit cost me $38,799!
YoungStar1111TheNazi 8 months ago
lol wait no automatic of course no automatic. It would be embarrassing if they had an auto option. This is made for DRIVERS!!
ChallengerGuy22 8 months ago 3
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Mustangs are boring, there's Too many of them. I mean come on how many different versions of the mustang can you have ? Boss?saleen?roush?cobra? There old an played out regardless of what version u have it's still a shitty mustang
llcoolchris123 8 months ago
@hw2800 real men who no how to use a car. Im 15 and i love driving my dads camaro that has a sixspeed. And its CVT transmission by the way bro.
camaromanss27 8 months ago
@camaromanss27 ......you lost me a "I'm 15".
0boardcertified0 8 months ago 2
No DCT for this car nor even an automatic. Who is going to buy it?
HW2800 9 months ago
@HW2800 What is wrong with it not being automatic? You get to chose when to change, the stupid computer doesn't do it for you, manual transmissions weigh less, and they usually have a bigger aftermarket than the automatic transmissions. This Boss 302 is made for drivers, not pussy foot grocery getters and gift shopping.
undeadkillers 9 months ago 46
@undeadkillers Grandma's shouldn't be driving sports cars anyways. When I see an 80 year old bitch going 40 mph in the fast lane driving a mustang/challenger/charger/camaro or any car that has speed, it pisses me off. And the only reason they put automatics in these types of cars is because grandma's that don't remember how to shift can drive them, slowly.
benidefelice 5 months ago
@benidefelice You can't get an auto in the Boss
jonmaher4 3 months ago
@undeadkillers auto is best for 1/4 mile and stick is best for the track, as for daily drivers I think its up to the persons preference. I have a stick car and it gets annoying sometimes. And this car was made for 50 year old guys who wanna relive there youth, majority of these cars sold will never even remotely be driven the way there supposed to be, so calling them a drivers car, idk.
fahque69692 4 months ago
@fahque69692 These were NOT made for 50 year old guys wanting there youth back...no mustang back then was this fast and this car is amazing... you don't know much about cars do you...
DoctorNambu 3 months ago 2
@undeadkillers i agree 100% haha
1n9a9n4 2 months ago
@undeadkillers if u drive a manual u like all the return of performance automatic does not function the same
natalieczyzyk22 1 month ago
@HW2800 yea, the porsche 911 gt3 doesnt come with an auto either . . . and they never sell out of ANY of those . . . or the corvette zr1 . . . if u want an automatic, buy a family sedan.
BrantFortunate 8 months ago
@HW2800 drivers are gonna buy this car. not fat pussyes such as yourself
TheKruptedAmoeba 8 months ago
@HW2800 LMFAO anyone with a pair of balls.. what are you a woman LMFAO come on... im 17 and i drive my manual 99 cobra no problem... lmfao your a noob
xmodrock 8 months ago
not gonna lie they need to change up the exhaust
comeradeweepy 9 months ago
very nice car... id still rather spend a few grand more and get a c6 but thats just me
smittymp44 10 months ago
also lol @ chevy fans for watching this...umad?
cmdhinds 10 months ago
I'm way too lazy to read the rest so here's a synopsis of the truth:
-In no way, shape, or form is the camaro better handling or faster than the comparable new mustang...its just not happening.
-The mustang was not the first retro car, I believe it was the Chevy SSR in 2003.
-The 4.6 wasn't replaced because of the new Camaro, try new EPA guidelines
-The Corvette does not own all fords, ever heard of the GT40? or how about the AC cobra
-stop using 2010 figures, this is 2011. and the 5.0 is here
cmdhinds 10 months ago
@cmdhinds ford gt40 huh....did u ever hear or a chevy corvette Zr1....gt40 is a whole different class than the camaro...
sergsrt8 10 months ago
@sergsrt8 yeah i've heard of it, and yeah its faster. someone said that NO ford compared to the camaro, so I was making my point
cmdhinds 10 months ago
@cmdhinds oh ok.....hell yea there is a ford out there that will rape a camaro you are correct. I didnt know someone said that...lol
sergsrt8 10 months ago
@sergsrt8 not true the camaro was born from the track too but the new camaro is a poor example of a platform with too much damn weight and the same goes with the new mustang these modern muscle car have no areodynamics or goodcorning abilty to match its modern high powered engines however the 3rd and 4th gen camaros with 450-600lbs lighter with modern engines and suspension including mustangs would make these cars look silly and the gens i spook of would easily be in the gt40s class
91battlered 9 months ago
@91battlered What? Lol...the mustang doesn't have good cornering ability? Since when? Europeans just aren't used to driving on the limit with a live axle....but then again, I started out powersliding pickup trucks so I wouldn't expect Europeans to understand it.
DeAdiSSu3 9 months ago
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@cmdhinds @cmdhinds ford gt40 huh....did u ever hear of a chevy corvette Zr1....gt40 is a whole different class than the camaro...
sergsrt8 10 months ago
@cmdhinds How about the 2002 Ford Thunderbird?
2314Raindrop 9 months ago
@cmdhinds Actually nevermind. I forgot about cars like the Prowler in terms of retro maybe Dodge started it then...
2314Raindrop 9 months ago
@fitz207 Ford was working on that 5.0 engine way before the camaro came out. i guess you think ford was able to make that great engine in one year. lol
gabrielandlennox 10 months ago
@gabrielandlennox What are you talking about? I'm on your side here.
fitz207 10 months ago
The previous model GT500 was faster than the SS Camaro by about .03 of a second 0-60 but the SS on a track with difficult turns would destroy the GT500...
That was last gen though. I am all for this Boss 302, I want to see it run Nurburgring! Pretty sure the Boss will beat the SS's time but who knows.
In the Camaro fans defense the SS is near $10K cheaper than the boss, mods aren't out of the question, but Stock you probably get what you pay for with the Boss :P
celestialkaze 10 months ago
live asshalls....
thepro08 10 months ago
Imagine a Boss302 F-150! ;-)
BklynJayL 10 months ago
Oh my Lord! This is one BadA** 'Stang!
BklynJayL 10 months ago
I'm normally a Mopar guy, but I love the look and sound of the Boss 302. I'd love to have one.
FoamCups428 10 months ago
it's deserving of the "BOSS" name
shummyshum 10 months ago
I love the live rear axle... That is what makes it American Muscle!!! It is a plus at the drag strip as well...... :)
07cummins50 11 months ago
I think the days of "Muscle Cars" are dead. Everything about all the "Muscle" cars from the big three are for being pure sports cars. Sure this is still a mustang ... and yes it has a live axel and a big V8 ... but it beat a Audi AWD R8 around Laguna Seca! If I had 40 grand for a new car I know exactly where I would spend it!
SauceCaptain 11 months ago 37
@SauceCaptain: You are right. The "Muscle cars" are dead. But welcome to the "Modern day Muscle cars". :) They've got better transmissions, much better suspension, and this new boss 302 is actually lighter giving it all around better performance.
V8Supercar1 11 months ago
@SauceCaptain what. the fuck? You do know that "muscle cars" were both drag raced AND road raced right? I hate all the ignorance that permeates throughout the automotive "enthusiast" world. You had the Boss 429 which were monsters in the straight but then you had the Boss 302 that dominated Trans-Am road racing. ZL1's were drag strip sleepers while the Z/28 competed in the road courses.
Muscle cars were NOT somehow magically limited to only drag racing prowess.
pwkid 7 months ago
@SauceCaptain you would get the audi huh? lol jk id get the boss too ^_^
musicfreak115 6 months ago
@SauceCaptain nothings changed other than the bar for performance, 40 years ago the boss 302 was still THE car to have for circuit racing, just as it is again here, only thing that has changed in 40 years is the bar for what a performance car is
ADD8oi 6 months ago
@SauceCaptain The term "Muscle car" came when these cars actually had some balls in a straight line. Despite the fact that we still would like to call them "Muscle cars", they are in fact nothing more than glorified economy cars with fancy paint jobs. The true muscle car is dead as we know it, unless you have the rare blessing to possess something that was made before 1975 and that doesn't bare a Chevrolet tag on it.
oFFtheWall518 5 months ago
@oFFtheWall518 Yeah except every single new muscle car today is way better in every aspect than the old "muscle" cars. I'd rather have an older car for the experience, but not to drive everyday, which you could do in comfort and safety with any of the big threes new muscle cars.
pwallace0 5 months ago
@oFFtheWall518 Your wrong, These are Muscle cars and a very good one at that. If you owned one of these and a old one, you woulndt even want to drive the old one, Trust me on this Ive had many many old classic Mustangs.
unrealford 2 months ago
This guy needs to stfu and let the engine do the talkin'!
merketboyz 11 months ago
fail burnout at the end
zunelucero 11 months ago
I'm a pure import guy, and this is the first Mustang I ever told myself I must own. Great job, Ford.
trancedsailor 11 months ago
Damn you youtubers can't even argue about cars well anymore. There are VERY LITTLE FACTS BEING STATED, it's just a bunch of opinions....you guys have ruined it.
Speedmccool385bitch 11 months ago
thanks. First I was going to buy the GT500, would you still reccomend that, or the Boss 302 ?
pjwallington 11 months ago
@pjwallington Motor Trend got 3.97s to 60 with a stock Boss Mustang and they said there was a 3.90s 60 in the car with a better surface. The car actually produces around 475 hp at the crank and does the 1/4 in 12.3s or better stock, for around $43,000 that's tough to beat.
watch?v=BxEhnugwzCc
Then click on the link and read the article by MT
The 2012 Boss Mustang will give you more bang for the buck than just about any other car.
1vdn992 11 months ago
Why so many freaking ugly yellow cars?
HighCardWins 11 months ago
Still Faster than the fatty Cramero. This should put Ford Over the top in the Muscle Car segment. I am a Ford Tech. and I can`t wait to have one on my lift.
atcantara 11 months ago
thank god they didn't make it look like that damned hot-wheels-looking joke of a car. the "laguna seca" or whatever crap it is
corvettels9 11 months ago
i saw a 2010 v6 mustang automatic with boss 302 stripes on it today. it made me want to punch a baby. i really hope people dont start making their v6's into "boss 302's"
Sparkplug98P71 11 months ago
i can't stand this guys voice...
laughoutlloyd8 11 months ago
this power is far from good
5l 444hp
should be around 480hp
becouse he delivering power on high rpm..
bobanppvc 11 months ago
@bobanppvc I believe you are comparing it to a M3 that revs past 8000
victim1z3d 11 months ago
@victim1z3d m3,m5,for example mustang delivers max power at 7600,m5 7750
the same torqe,444:7600=0.58x7750(bmw's)+=452hp,but the same adjusted engine in bmw delivers 55hp more...
bobanppvc 11 months ago
@bobanppvc Unfortunately since manufacturers often rate BHP higher than what you really get (because of gearbox, radior and a/c losses accounting for about 15% loss) most cars are slightly overrated, watch: watch?v=YjuOAveqybw&feature=related I'm sure the next m5 will be beast though. Watch this and compare to the m5 video watch?v=XonbZwYcIM0
victim1z3d 11 months ago
Absolutely beautiful car there.
GeauxHunting 1 year ago
@EclipseGS04 Is it coincidence a chevy fan found himself watching a ford video? I think its jealoucy.
GTRacer212 1 year ago
@GTRacer212 No not Jealousy just trying to save some people money by wasting it on this car before waiting for the new Z28 next year. Also hate to be the bearer of bad news for the Mustang what with Camaro KILLING IT IN SALES & ALL BUT THE NEW 2014 CAMARO WILL BE ON THE NEW ALPHA PLATFORM WITH LESS WEIGHT.
EclipseGS04 1 year ago
The Camaro is slower on each competing level than the Mustang whether it's V6, 5.0 V8, or GT500. It's really funny because even the new ZL1 will be slower than the GT500 considering it's to produce the same hp but weigh 300 pounds more. There is simply no comparison. And if you're so smitten by the Camaro design, then you should thank Ford for that too. After all, the throw back design success was started by Ford. Dodge and GM just hopped on board for ride.
StangpedePlus1 1 year ago 121
@StangpedePlus1 Just another pissed Ford Fanboy because no one buys Mustang anymore. Keep frowning while we keep smiling outselling you every month lol. Also you must really not know anything about the new ZL1 it has some carbon fiber parts which makes it lighter than your average SS. And DONT EVER compare a Ford design to the new Camaro design ONLY the Camaro wins 2010 Car Design of the Year not Mustangs.
EclipseGS04 1 year ago
@EclipseGS04
Holy cow you're a friggin idiot, Ford invented the pony car class by making the Mustang, and then Chevy copied Ford by making the Camaro. Ford sold over 8 million Mustangs and Chevy sold under 5 million Camaros. And Chevy did stop making the Camaro for 8 years because they weren't competing well against the Mustang. And it was Ford's idea to retro-style the new Mustang for 2005, what did Chevy do? They copied them! Ford Mustang is better, faster, and more popular.
RulerOfTheKings 11 months ago
@RulerOfTheKings How is the Mustang more popular when the new Camaro has been outselling the Mustang the past 2 years? Who cares if they stopped making the Camaro for 7 years its back now better than ever and it is just going to keep improving and outselling the Mustang month after month. February 2011 Mustang sales- over 3,000 Camaro sales- over 6,000 dont believe me look it up! You mad? Plus the ZL1 smoke the gay Shelby GT500 and Corvette owns all of ford so go cry now!
EclipseGS04 11 months ago
@EclipseGS04 Hmm, lets see, ay? There would be NO Camaro or Challenger if Ford didn't invent the Mustang, am I right? Dude, the Mustang has less hp and torque and still whoops the Camaro's and Challenger's ass in a 1/4 mile. Hey, don't get mad because GM turned down Shelby when he chose to go to GM first. Ford took him in, invented the Shelby mustang and whooped some ass. I'm gonna laugh when Ford makes GM go bankrupt again. And Camaro's sells can keep going, Mustang's still best selling overall
RulerOfTheKings 11 months ago
@EclipseGS04 Nobody is crying, a 5.0 pony car is faster than a corvette grand sport. However the Camaro's sales are only so high because when ford brought out the 2010 Mustang it still had the old 4.6L. Wait for the 2012 sales reports to come out. History will repeat itself.
gearhead2k6 11 months ago
@EclipseGS04 Out selling the mustang for 1 year since the mid 80's is not that big of an accomplishment. By those standards the Fbody was a pile of crap with it's low ass sales figure enough to put the camaro out for almost a decade. Besides, anyone making 50,000 cars will outsell the other making 40,000 cars. The question is, who will sell them all?
hugoloves2spooge 11 months ago
@hugoloves2spooge Well if the Camro outselling the Mustang for 2 years straight isnt that big of an accomplishment then the 5.0 beating the Camaro for 1 year is not a big accomplishment either considering that the Camaro has generally always been faster than the Mustang up until the 5th gens since they are so heavy.
EclipseGS04 11 months ago
@EclipseGS04 The mustang is better than ever, which is why they made the commercial promotion of it, ford has also made a DUB edition v6 mustang. The only problem I have with camaros are the low rooflines, they just need to make the roofline higher and possibly shed a few hundred pounds off of the car.
victim1z3d 11 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 funny how every year the mustang gets closer to looking like the new gen camaros
ironsaber2 11 months ago
@ironsaber2 Hmmmm gotta disagree with you on that one. The two muscle cars might have one or two design features in common, but they're still worlds apart as far as styling is concerned.
aepack2006 11 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 lol, and the Boss 302 ATE the ShelbyGT500 AND the AUDI R8 AWD !!! on the track.. Keep tryin Chevy
pjwallington 11 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 Its funny how the 392 chall guys are claiming it to be faster than the mustang.
hyundai1234567 10 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 This comment is pure idiocy. You forget that the mustang GT wasn't even a contender until the camaro SS raised the performance standard. If the camaro and challenger didn't come out Ford would still be building those crappy 4.6 motors in their cars. Also how do you know the ZL1 will be slower? There's hardly any info on it yet.
Ford is also not the first make to do a retro design, giving them credit for the camaro's design is retarded on so many lessons. You're a fanboy
BlueAvenue22 10 months ago
@BlueAvenue22 But your comments can used both ways. There would be no Camaro or Challenger if there was no Mustang. Got proof the 4.6 motor is crap? I haven't heard anything from police departments around the country who use the 4.6 on a daily basis to confirm this. ZL1 may or may not be slower, but it's a pretty good bet it won't handle as well as the Boss. Ford was the 1st to come out with the retro design for the pony car.
fitz207 10 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 The question is, which can be modded more heavily to yield more horsepower to weight ratio in the end game?
Savagenerds 10 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 Well i think Chrysler started the trend with the PT cruiser then ford with the mustang, but I still think the 2011 stangs are the best.
FreakyKing2 9 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 amen...
djmarkian 7 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 Probably the most reasonable and sensible comment ever posted on youtube, well done. Mustangs for life.
DutchMannDan 7 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 ah but that is until the new shelby launches in 2012, 650hp 200+mph top speed, all stock, its going to be competing with the corvettes apparently, but we'll see, the new camaro however wont have anything on the new mustang
ADD8oi 6 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 Actually the throw back design was really started buy Plymouth and chrysler with the Prowler and even (regrettably) the Pt loser. Everybody's product has its goods and bad's man. If that wasn't true then only one of them would sell at all. Yes I am aware that more mustangs are sold than the others but it's not by an overwhelming margin. Some people like their Camaros, some like the challengers, and others like the mustangs. I personally like them all.
MarcL0116 5 months ago
@StangpedePlus1 Also I think you might want to check the results of the CTS-V coupe VS the GT500.
MarcL0116 5 months ago
this car does 0-60mph in 4 secs. FLAT!!!
mazda6tuner99 1 year ago
@EatmyDust1311 there are more than 4 versions of the mustang. the v6, the gt, the cobra, the mach1, the boss, the shelby, the roush, the saleen, the saleen extreme
marriedncute 1 year ago
Okay fools time to set the story straight, THIS IS NOT A BLOODY SUPERCAR. IF YOU WANT A BLOODY HIGH PERFORMING CAR GET THE CORVETTE ZO6 CARBON, CORVETTE ZR1 AND NISSAN GT-R ALL FOR A 5 FIGURE PRICE TAG. THIS CAR IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A LOW PERFORMING MUSCLE CAR, THIS IS JUST FOR FUN AND NOTHING ELSE, THIS WILL NOT SET RECORD TRACK TIMES!
TheHm3 1 year ago
By the way next yr is already announced for gt and boss 302 you can already order. I think it will be proven a good track car decent street at least the base model. Nice high revving engine don't see that much anymore w domestic v8's. So look over the new boss 2013 it is striped like a 70 boss was and some different colors.
69gt4speed 1 year ago
@vasco10506 Ill agree they are similar cars. But a large percentage of the M3 buyers are looking for a performance car with a bit of luxary. But really the M3 isnt that luxurious. what does it really have over heated seats, ac, a nice audio system etc? Sure its a bit more electronically refined but its also a lot less efficent. If i were looking at both cars regardless of price, i would drive away in the mustang. And yes ive driven the new M3 and GT.
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
nice rolling burnout...
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
that is awesome.
SoldierOfRock43 1 year ago
@vasco10506
The trade rag did the side by side review... not me.
EvilxMerlin 1 year ago
saw one today at the autoshow. holy fuck this is why i love mustangs.
supra6t9 1 year ago
Them M3 boys are maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad LMAO
fdjizm 1 year ago
please ford bring back the boss 429 please!!!
guitaristwagner 1 year ago
Like a Boss
100littlecurses 1 year ago
Nice review guys :) And sweet burnout to finish it!
michaeldenham11 1 year ago
i still like my s600 .. boss is a nice car.. but i like my merc a lot more
mankaman3 1 year ago
It's funny reading haters' comments on such a great car. The only reason why they don't like it is because it's better than their pos shit-mobile.
Supras are also meant to be fragile and cost a lot to upgrade. No replacement for displacement. 'Nuff said
LogoRifle 1 year ago
This is the only Mustang I'd own
Corveette 1 year ago
It does not have leaf springs do your research you muppet
249raf 1 year ago
It does not have leaf sprins do your research you muppet
249raf 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This is the way its been for awhile.
japanese way of gaining horsepower = engineering
americanw way or gaining horsepower = just add more cylinders
miketothesupra 1 year ago
Make it the next transformer. Lolz
ZoloDicrey 1 year ago
idk why people rave about this car so much...
droppinsumfudge 1 year ago
@droppinsumfudge AAAAHH, Ignorance is Bliss.
1vdn992 1 year ago
@1vdn992 hahahahaha i drive a maserati.... so i wouldnt call it that!!!
droppinsumfudge 1 year ago
@droppinsumfudge
Because its better than anything else in its price range and class by leaps and bounds. Why the fuck else? Or are you one of those brain damaged kids?
EvilxMerlin 1 year ago
@EvilxMerlin Brain damaged kids?? What the hell is wrong with you?
droppinsumfudge 1 year ago
I would love to see a comparison between the boss & the super snake
fq340mr 1 year ago
What color is on that car? Grabber Orange!!! If so then I want that color on my dream car....11 gt 500. :)
PS: Let the guy make it, We all have a job to do. I actually think this was just a "sights and sounds" version of the new boss. I dont think that Ford has even let car mags. test it yet. This is still better than reading the same ole stories we have heard about the boss for like a year now.
joshua626 1 year ago
Only good thing in this car is the engine. I've owned a LRA Ford and on anything else than perfect tarmac it was dreadful.
Leonidae 1 year ago
@Leonidae lol u just chickened out! ive got a 355000 km mustang and drive it year round in canada. its not a big deal if you know how to power out. Ive never felt like it was dangerous to drive anywhere any other sports coupe could go. IRS is nice and im not doubting that it is a more advanced technology, but it also is heavier and weaker.
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
@DaBluedude100 If you didn't feel that it was dangerous, you weren't pushing it hard enough. Try doing ~70-100mph on narrow gravel road that's snaking through a forest and then say that it didn't feel dangerous.
Leonidae 1 year ago
@Leonidae Lol. And that wouldn't be dangerous in a IRS car? Get real guy. I slide my mustang around all winter over washboard ice and it's no big deal. And as for cracked mountain roads it's about knowing when to power off. No big deal. It's a great way to learn car control.
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
@DaBluedude100 yes, it would be dangerous. but with IRS, one rear wheel hitting a pothole won't make another one jolt up and down with it.
Leonidae 1 year ago
@Leonidae True but your examples poor. Over rough roads there is a slight difference. But a lot of that comes from poor driver control. Normal driving conditions make no difference. I would still rather have the worlds best sra over a half assed IRS like the terminator cobra, camaro and challenger get.
DaBluedude100 1 year ago
OH fuck, not this douche again. FUCK he's such a tool -_-
DemonOfRazgriz89 1 year ago
gotta love the BOSS!!!!!!
supersmrf 1 year ago
The peel out at the end was amazing! :D lol
twenty514 1 year ago
1:17 FAIL
leoviper 1 year ago
This is a great looking Mustang for sure. For some odd reason, the front end reminds me of the Giugiaro concept that was from a few years back. I dunno, could be the color, lol.
mstblue 1 year ago
@mstblue It's not just you, I also see it...
AudiABTr8 1 year ago
Whooah, the engine noise is music to my ears...
kavithewolf 1 year ago
Ufff makes my blood boil...in excitement that is >:-)
tommyroca07 1 year ago
inside line not hating on a mustang... like and live axles are better! duh! who wants anything else at the 1/4? or at a stop light?
arturoa9 1 year ago
LOL "and bunch of other stuff to make a gt-r jealus" LOOOOOOOOOOL they create this to beat a gt-r... and even so they can't
CONAPOWA 1 year ago
@CONAPOWA Actually he said "and a bunch of other stuff to make regular GT owners..."
tommyroca07 1 year ago
@CONAPOWA Of the over 210 vehicles Motor Trend tested in 2010, the 2011 Mustang GT made the top 10 most impressive.
On the outset, the thought of comparing a Mustang to a M3 elicited confused shock. But then we tested the two, and things became simply bewildering. The Mustang narrowly bested the M3 in every performance metric. It passed the quarter mile mark 0.1 second faster. It stopped from 60 mph two feet shorter. Its average lateral acceleration was 0.01 g higher.
1vdn992 1 year ago
schnitzel wagen
12valvepower1 1 year ago
Listen to all the BMW and/or GM fanbois whine about a live axle. A live axle that beats the 2011 M3 (with only the Mustang GT mind you), and trashes the Camaro and Challenger.
"BUT IT HAS A LIVE AXLE WAAAAAA" and it is still less expesnive, handles better, gets better gas milage and is faster than the M3, Camaro and Challenger.
GO Blue Oval!
EvilxMerlin 1 year ago
@EvilxMerlin it doesn't handle better u idiot. it only becomes a problem at bumpy roads. it does work fine at the track.
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