Is there a trend for German courts to be more sane than most these days? (It usually takes beating US courts over the head with Constitutional arguments for decades before they get it rights.)
I didn't know that you're FREEMASON. I spotted the FREEMASON logo on your ring in one of your videos. It'd be nice to get a good close up of the ring.
I was wondering what you thought about Anonymous responding to the taking down of megaupload by breaking several government websites including the FBI's.
I think there's a case to be made for retribution as a form of justice in extremis. The ideal type of such a case is a set of circumstances where there are no neutral third-party arbiters and enforcers willing or able to create better justice, where the recipient is certainly guilty, where the recipient is certain to continue comitting the crime and where no full restitution for the damages of his crimes is possible even under the best of circumstances. -
- I'm undecided on this, but I think that, if any situation can theoretically warrant retribution, then government bureaucrats, unambiguously stepping outside the boundaries of even their own rules, is that situation.
@PanzerDivisionBOM Even if you could defend the act morally, realistically all you're doing is giving them ammunition to say, "See? SEE? THIS is why we have to take over the internet!"
This is a little late, but I learned something yesterday that reminded me of this episode and the Megaupload incident.
The attack on the FBI wasn't just a for teh lulz DDoS afternoon event. It actually crashed the FBI servers, and some of their records were irretrievably lost. In all likelihood, some people who would otherwise be the target of FBI persecution, will now go unmolested.
To me, that pushes the action from "morally dubious revenge" to proper self-defense.
@PanzerDivisionBOM You could certainly argue that. It'd be sort of like people destroying Nazi records of Jewish safe-houses. If the law they're enforcing is immoral and unconstitutional, then resistance is justified.
Great podcast. I was especially interested in your SOPA commentary. Shane, when you're president, can you please reduce the number of bogon emitters?
FHomeBrew 1 month ago
Is there a trend for German courts to be more sane than most these days? (It usually takes beating US courts over the head with Constitutional arguments for decades before they get it rights.)
evensgrey 1 month ago
I didn't know that you're FREEMASON. I spotted the FREEMASON logo on your ring in one of your videos. It'd be nice to get a good close up of the ring.
NimlotArt 1 month ago
@NimlotArt Um, I don't wear any rings.
shanedk 1 month ago
I was wondering what you thought about Anonymous responding to the taking down of megaupload by breaking several government websites including the FBI's.
wakeangel2001 1 month ago
@wakeangel2001 I don't condone the act, of course, but it does show the concept of Blowback.
shanedk 1 month ago
@wakeangel2001
I think there's a case to be made for retribution as a form of justice in extremis. The ideal type of such a case is a set of circumstances where there are no neutral third-party arbiters and enforcers willing or able to create better justice, where the recipient is certainly guilty, where the recipient is certain to continue comitting the crime and where no full restitution for the damages of his crimes is possible even under the best of circumstances. -
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PanzerDivisionBOM 1 month ago
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- I'm undecided on this, but I think that, if any situation can theoretically warrant retribution, then government bureaucrats, unambiguously stepping outside the boundaries of even their own rules, is that situation.
PanzerDivisionBOM 1 month ago
@PanzerDivisionBOM Even if you could defend the act morally, realistically all you're doing is giving them ammunition to say, "See? SEE? THIS is why we have to take over the internet!"
shanedk 1 month ago
@shanedk
This is a little late, but I learned something yesterday that reminded me of this episode and the Megaupload incident.
The attack on the FBI wasn't just a for teh lulz DDoS afternoon event. It actually crashed the FBI servers, and some of their records were irretrievably lost. In all likelihood, some people who would otherwise be the target of FBI persecution, will now go unmolested.
To me, that pushes the action from "morally dubious revenge" to proper self-defense.
PanzerDivisionBOM 1 month ago
@PanzerDivisionBOM You could certainly argue that. It'd be sort of like people destroying Nazi records of Jewish safe-houses. If the law they're enforcing is immoral and unconstitutional, then resistance is justified.
shanedk 1 month ago
I don't know what is wrong with my iPad, that was supposed to read "depression"
interstate317 1 month ago
Wasn't the fed supposed to step in and stop deflation in the deperscion?
interstate317 1 month ago
@interstate317 That was the idea, because they mistakenly thought depression and deflation were linked.
shanedk 1 month ago