Here is an account of a real revival where young people didn't need to get "fired up" to change their culture. Everybody, young and old, experienced revival and renewal.
True Christianity is not about rock concerts & rock & rap stars. I attended a few Christian concerts & they're a fun way to spend your weekends - certainly better than going to bars & partying like the world - but it's not the way to give young people a TRUE sense of walking with the Lord. Why does it need to be DARK? Why do kids need to scream like DEMONS? If you study the history of revivals, you know that previous generations didn't need loud music & rock music to get right with God.
I hate pep rallies and motivational speakers. It gives Christianity a bad name. There are no altars in the New Covenant so giving an altar call is non-biblical.
I went to one of these, looking back it's really stupid. It's based on screaming and psychosis, not on contemplation and peace. jesus' words: "learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart" matt 11:29
I agree. I am a Buddhist but respect others beliefs. I actually think theres a lot to learn from the bible, its a fantastic book and true christianity promotes peace and loving your neighbor and turning the other cheek NOT getting whipped up into artificial psychotic frenzies.
I think if Jesus comes back he'd be ashamed at quite a lot of the things that people do in his name.
@iscream22 if you are a Buddhist then perhaps you should be cautious when analyzing the principles of other belief systems.
The Bible is a Middle Eastern book, and Middle Easterners are quite expressive people. The Bible itself is full of exhortations to shout for joy and triumph, it is not a book of withdrawn and controlled individuals . It is a book of passionate and expressive souls. They tore their clothes when saddened, danced and shouted when happy etc.
Do you know what the word "gentle" means there? it is (especially in Greek) an interrelational word. It has do with being gentle TOWARD OTHER PEOPLE, loving. Someone who is loving is also humble.
You seem to be valuing qualities like "looking dignified" over the deeper MORAL values that the Bible ACTUALLY teaches.
As for the subject of dignity, maybe you need to check out the story in 2 Samuel 6:14-23 featuring David a man "after God's own heart"
Omalley: Hmm, let me give you the list of killings that have been caused by Atheism:
1919-1987, USSR, over sixty-seven million were killed.
1949-1987, China (PRC), thirty-five million killed.
Also, a man by the name of Vox Day made a discovery. He discovered that 22 Atheist regimes committed 153,368,610 murders were caused by them in the 20th century.
I'm sorry, but Atheists have committed more atrocities than Christians have. Even in the Crusades.
just because the population is bigger now and more people are killed doesn't mean that the atrocities are 'better' than in the Crusades and the second world war brought by the hands of mislead Christians
The population has nothing to do with it. In the first 20 years of the Spanish Inquisition about 2000 people were illed. The population allowed for slaughter of a much much greater magnitude. Millions were killed in the Inquisition but it was over a very long period of time. The inquisition aquired it's insidious reputation prior to 20th century events that make it look like a walk in the park by comparison.
all ii know is whats the point of leaving negative comments cusz noone is going to listen to what yu have to say. brainwashed? bro yur brainwashed by the devil this is why yu cant understand God becuase the devil has ya mind allll twisted
ok all of you guys that are bashing this! u have no right to say anything until u have actually gone to it. i guarantee if u go it will change your life forever! i have been to 3 of them so far and i am planning on going again this year.
sorry douche bag, but I don't need some bullshit fiction book to tell me how to run my life. You are some seriously brain-washed retards. Do you not realize that the bible/all religion is total BULLSHIT?!
For one, i noticed that you said that the bible is a "fiction book", well, you do realize that the holy bible is the most historicaly acurate document of all time, right? hmmm...I didn't think so. You do realize that without God than you have no purpose? if there is no God, than you are worth no more than a slab of concrete? because without God, than you have no soul.
Give me proof that we have a soul? How about THIS for thought, i say reincarnation is fact. Where do you think you were before this lifetime? Just floating in a eternal dark void of nothingness?
lol well it sounds to me that you need all the help u can possible get. The Bible is not fiction at all. Brain-washed? please it is our choice to believe what we want we are not forced to go to this or to believe it, just as you are not forced to.. but please dont go around bashing a religion just because its different than your own.
God loves you, he wants a relationship with you...he wants to give everything Good...He didn't bring you into being to torture you but to live with you in a growing relationship.
people say not to try and sell in this watered-down preachy popular music but that is exactly what the world does with their music talking about drugs, sex, and putting women down! They think they're spreading a good message to young people??? Well they better think again and get ready cuz God is about to move drastically in the world of young people and start tearing down satans house and ways of destruction through his music for them!
i went to the maryland ATF it was so much fun u luckey u got to go to IZOD Center in East Rutherford NJ. kevin nick joe frankie paul and denise have benn there so many times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey. Has anyone gone THIS YEAR yet? Last ATF I went to was Keep It Real 3 or 4 years ago.... got free tickets for this year for tampa. Wanna know what this year's logo says....deciding whether I wanna go or not. Plz reply!! YES or NO???
That wave was too kool for t.v...BattleCry rocked, word up...lives were changed in my youth group...the H.A. interns were such a blessing to my church...can't wait for next year...I want to see our youth ministries double
yeah that event was awesome i was there!!! I loved TD Jakes "myspace" joke which i didn't get at first lol. Another thing that was funny was those Athiest outside. I screamed "Jesus Loves You!" at the top of my lungs at them lol...
the wave(when almost every person in the room did the wave like 7 times in a row..) was awesome there, and i also loved ron's illustration of the fish out of water.. and unhindered rocked..
Here is an account of a real revival where young people didn't need to get "fired up" to change their culture. Everybody, young and old, experienced revival and renewal.
Revival in the Hebrides
watch?v=g8NCXwl0UDg
xander7ful 1 month ago
True Christianity is not about rock concerts & rock & rap stars. I attended a few Christian concerts & they're a fun way to spend your weekends - certainly better than going to bars & partying like the world - but it's not the way to give young people a TRUE sense of walking with the Lord. Why does it need to be DARK? Why do kids need to scream like DEMONS? If you study the history of revivals, you know that previous generations didn't need loud music & rock music to get right with God.
xander7ful 1 month ago
I hate pep rallies and motivational speakers. It gives Christianity a bad name. There are no altars in the New Covenant so giving an altar call is non-biblical.
yesterway 3 months ago
i was there in the govenor box i love this but not as much as i love God. Freak the people who pressed the dislike button!
LlovenBabiiGurl 1 year ago
i was there in the govenor box i love this but not as much as i love God.
LlovenBabiiGurl 1 year ago
i cant wait for this year:)) GO TEAM GOD! :)
cooljerry127 1 year ago
I went to one of these, looking back it's really stupid. It's based on screaming and psychosis, not on contemplation and peace. jesus' words: "learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart" matt 11:29
and check out the story in 1 Kings 19:11
taliaziz 2 years ago 2
I agree. I am a Buddhist but respect others beliefs. I actually think theres a lot to learn from the bible, its a fantastic book and true christianity promotes peace and loving your neighbor and turning the other cheek NOT getting whipped up into artificial psychotic frenzies.
I think if Jesus comes back he'd be ashamed at quite a lot of the things that people do in his name.
iscream22 2 years ago 2
@iscream22 if you are a Buddhist then perhaps you should be cautious when analyzing the principles of other belief systems.
The Bible is a Middle Eastern book, and Middle Easterners are quite expressive people. The Bible itself is full of exhortations to shout for joy and triumph, it is not a book of withdrawn and controlled individuals . It is a book of passionate and expressive souls. They tore their clothes when saddened, danced and shouted when happy etc.
Califacience 1 year ago
@taliaziz
Do you know what the word "gentle" means there? it is (especially in Greek) an interrelational word. It has do with being gentle TOWARD OTHER PEOPLE, loving. Someone who is loving is also humble.
You seem to be valuing qualities like "looking dignified" over the deeper MORAL values that the Bible ACTUALLY teaches.
As for the subject of dignity, maybe you need to check out the story in 2 Samuel 6:14-23 featuring David a man "after God's own heart"
Califacience 1 year ago
Omalley: Hmm, let me give you the list of killings that have been caused by Atheism:
1919-1987, USSR, over sixty-seven million were killed.
1949-1987, China (PRC), thirty-five million killed.
Also, a man by the name of Vox Day made a discovery. He discovered that 22 Atheist regimes committed 153,368,610 murders were caused by them in the 20th century.
I'm sorry, but Atheists have committed more atrocities than Christians have. Even in the Crusades.
FaceofINSANITY01 2 years ago
just because the population is bigger now and more people are killed doesn't mean that the atrocities are 'better' than in the Crusades and the second world war brought by the hands of mislead Christians
taliaziz 2 years ago
@taliaziz
The population has nothing to do with it. In the first 20 years of the Spanish Inquisition about 2000 people were illed. The population allowed for slaughter of a much much greater magnitude. Millions were killed in the Inquisition but it was over a very long period of time. The inquisition aquired it's insidious reputation prior to 20th century events that make it look like a walk in the park by comparison.
periechontology 1 year ago
I'm sorry Vhoone, but I'm only going on the legacy you Christians have left.
I mean historicaly Christians are an extremely violent people.
The Crusades
The Spanish Inquisition,
The Salem Witch Trials,
The genocide of the Native Americans
And the persecution of of any other group or race that dosen't subsribe to your religion. (open a history book)
So when you use the word "war" I assume you mean violence will ensue
omalley4521 2 years ago
do you really think that the "war" we are taking about involves killing and stuffs like that? don't be too narrow minded..
please,you are the one who must thinkbefore you do something.
Vhoone 2 years ago
Do you think Christ really wants you to wage war under His name? What happened to peace, understanding, tolerance, forgiveness?
This is why you christians will never win. You go against all the things the Saviour taught.
Think very carefully before you launch another crusade. You lost the previous ones, and you'll lose this one too.
In-fact, you already lost the war
omalley4521 2 years ago
all ii know is whats the point of leaving negative comments cusz noone is going to listen to what yu have to say. brainwashed? bro yur brainwashed by the devil this is why yu cant understand God becuase the devil has ya mind allll twisted
Ant175 3 years ago
ok all of you guys that are bashing this! u have no right to say anything until u have actually gone to it. i guarantee if u go it will change your life forever! i have been to 3 of them so far and i am planning on going again this year.
whippet84 3 years ago
sorry douche bag, but I don't need some bullshit fiction book to tell me how to run my life. You are some seriously brain-washed retards. Do you not realize that the bible/all religion is total BULLSHIT?!
DLFerrariFan 3 years ago
For one, i noticed that you said that the bible is a "fiction book", well, you do realize that the holy bible is the most historicaly acurate document of all time, right? hmmm...I didn't think so. You do realize that without God than you have no purpose? if there is no God, than you are worth no more than a slab of concrete? because without God, than you have no soul.
Teshonn 3 years ago
Give me proof that we have a soul? How about THIS for thought, i say reincarnation is fact. Where do you think you were before this lifetime? Just floating in a eternal dark void of nothingness?
iscream22 2 years ago
lol well it sounds to me that you need all the help u can possible get. The Bible is not fiction at all. Brain-washed? please it is our choice to believe what we want we are not forced to go to this or to believe it, just as you are not forced to.. but please dont go around bashing a religion just because its different than your own.
Gh0stKil1aLegend 3 years ago
God loves you, he wants a relationship with you...he wants to give everything Good...He didn't bring you into being to torture you but to live with you in a growing relationship.
Teshonn 3 years ago
people say not to try and sell in this watered-down preachy popular music but that is exactly what the world does with their music talking about drugs, sex, and putting women down! They think they're spreading a good message to young people??? Well they better think again and get ready cuz God is about to move drastically in the world of young people and start tearing down satans house and ways of destruction through his music for them!
EquineLover209 3 years ago
i went to the maryland ATF it was so much fun u luckey u got to go to IZOD Center in East Rutherford NJ. kevin nick joe frankie paul and denise have benn there so many times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrsNicholasJonas1 3 years ago
Hey. Has anyone gone THIS YEAR yet? Last ATF I went to was Keep It Real 3 or 4 years ago.... got free tickets for this year for tampa. Wanna know what this year's logo says....deciding whether I wanna go or not. Plz reply!! YES or NO???
crazy4broadway1013 3 years ago
I was at ATF this last weekend. Its awesome! Just have one thing to say... LET's live for the BEMA! Lets live a life that glorifies Him everday... :)
Writterssoul 3 years ago
AMEN!
chuchifrita101 3 years ago
I was at ATF in Norfolk
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MirandaMoriconi 3 years ago
I'm going to the one in North Carolina this weekend. I can't wait to experience this!
annointedvessel 3 years ago
have fun
Jumpingforchrist 3 years ago
I was at the Minnesota one!! It was the best!
Jumpingforchrist 3 years ago
you were in minneapolis in Feb?? SO WAS I!
pianoplayer3000 3 years ago
omg i went last nite in dallas texas it was so fun i loved it so much in just the first night i felt so changed
nevertheless1990 4 years ago
I WAS THERE!
cooljerry128 4 years ago
i was there tooooooooooooooo it was mad fun rite wat section was u in i was in section c
cprincess7gp 4 years ago
Oh My God i loved going there..it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!! wish i was there again!!!! GOd Bless Everyone!!!!!!!
EdwardForever17 4 years ago
whats the girls name who talks in the beginning?? i love her message!
spitfiresr 4 years ago
sumething like oria
cprincess7gp 4 years ago
It's actually poetry.
crazybdog 4 years ago
i was there and and my life was changed. can't wait till next year.
lexgrl5 4 years ago
That wave was too kool for t.v...BattleCry rocked, word up...lives were changed in my youth group...the H.A. interns were such a blessing to my church...can't wait for next year...I want to see our youth ministries double
servingodalwayz 4 years ago
i was theree
omgg it was soo gudd.ohdee man
it was crazii yooo
i cntt wait till next year.i wanna get a video camera nest timee lol
godd realli is gonna use me i feel it
jojocutiee 4 years ago
i was there 2 me nd ma family nd friends were mad hyped it was mad funnnnn lol god bless u
cprincess7gp 4 years ago
This was the first atf i had ever went to, and it was AWESOME!!!! i really loved it!
btw, i really want to know, who was the girl doing the spoken word thing? she was so good and it really annoys me that i don't know her. pls?
eureka25 4 years ago
Oraia... that was her name.
lexgrl5 4 years ago
thank you very much! God bless
eureka25 4 years ago
yur welcome.[=
lexgrl5 3 years ago
yea i was also there....it was awesome...i wanna go back....kirk franlin was my favorite
LiLtigger1228 4 years ago
yeah that event was awesome i was there!!! I loved TD Jakes "myspace" joke which i didn't get at first lol. Another thing that was funny was those Athiest outside. I screamed "Jesus Loves You!" at the top of my lungs at them lol...
rpgfan12 4 years ago
I WUZZ THERE LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!
bafina1994 4 years ago
the wave(when almost every person in the room did the wave like 7 times in a row..) was awesome there, and i also loved ron's illustration of the fish out of water.. and unhindered rocked..
grricantgetaname 4 years ago
i know, i wish more teens would accept jesus christ.
dugruton22 4 years ago
mee too.
lexgrl5 4 years ago
It was awsome! I was there!
dugruton22 4 years ago
i was there too it was awesome to see everyone adoring God!!!!
EdwardForever17 4 years ago