@EntinludeX hey, ive got a gift from the god mithras.never doubt the one true god mithras,for my god gave me smellavision, and you cannot disprove this. huh, stick that in yer pipe.
As an atheist I do not believe whatever the evidence says. Knowing that people make mistakes and evidence can lead to the wrong conclusion, I prefer to say that I "use" or "assume" whatever the evidence seems to strongly imply, but this is not a belief. And I am always completely open to changing my "model of reality" the second evidence seems to steer away from my current assumptions, no matter how true that assumption seemed to be before this new info.
The internal witness of the Holy Spirit is evidence. Such inner witness is even described in Romans 8:16. It's an internal witness which we cannot expect those who never experienced the reality of it can neither accept or understand. Obviously you are only able to speak negatively about that which you have no knowledge or experience of of. The Holy Spirit's inner witness in each believer is a subjective as well as objective evidence. You should stick with things you have experience with.
@Not1delusion The truth of the matter is, that many who claim to be Christian actually aren't. That also can be proven from what is found in Scripture.
@BT3701 Would you expect this same moral bankrupt & pestilential mass murderer God of the OT to become a teacher of morals; of gentleness; of meekness; of righteousness; of purityin the NT?
What immense sarcasms & giant hypocrisies! The very same god ordered the massacre of the men, women, babies, & cattle; the destruction of house & city; the kidnapping & banishment of the virgins into a filthy unspeakable slavery...fashoned the Beatitudes of Christ?
@BT3701 "The internal witness of the Holy Spirit is evidence.
Supposing that aliens arn't using a telepathic communicaiton device to prank the local inhabitants of earth. It's a telepathic communication which we cannot expect those who never experienced the reality of it can neither accept or understand.
The inner witness in each alien believer is a subjective as well as objective evidence. You should stick with things you have experience with.
@BT3701 I experienced god for 40 years. I believed. I read the whole bible, from cover to cover, and I am willing to imply you have never.
If you did, you would be an Atheist.
Your beliefs are not based in fact, but in folly. Like a child who saw a monster under their bed or in their closet, you believe what you do without the ability to support it with evidence.
Religion is for adults who wish to participate, and like cigarettes, it should be illegal to share with your kids.
@realoldguy1969 Actually I have read the entire Bible cover to cover approximately 90 or so times, and the more times I read it the stronger my faith becomes. Concerning the rest of your reply all I can say is you're entitled to your opinion.
@BT3701 If you read the bible 90 times, Then maybe you can tell me where in the bible god said he created hell. And dinosaurs, and can you explain the fire breathing sea monster known as Leviathan, because there have been no remains found of such a creature, or the race of giants, or the unicorns talked about in the bible?
@realoldguy1969 I would rather show you the main message found in the Bible which is God's love for you and how He wants you to be saved. The eternal destiny of your soul is the most important decision a man should be concerned about. If you haven't as yet taken care of the final destination of your soul and where you will spend eternity, then all that other stuff is unimportant.
@realoldguy1969 The Bible doesn't specifically say WHEN did God create hell. The only thing we need to know is that it exists and that God has provided a way to escape from it for all who believe in Jesus. Escape from it should be your main concern.
@BT3701 The bible doesn't say, therefore god never did it. Have you any idea what heaven is like in the bible? I would consider an eternity in biblical heaven as hell.
Have you researched the word "hell"?
I can wipe my ass with your religious message.
If god, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one, then Jesus lost his virginity to his virgin mother, in a four way gangbang. What do you call someone who has sex with their mother?
@BT3701 Ahh yes, your moral and loving god has given us free will to make up our own minds.. it's just that we'll burn for eternity if we don't do what he wants.
Of course we should embrace Jesus, it's the only loophole in the system. We're doomed from the start; created sick and commanded to be well.
What a twisted fantasy world you live in. No thanks, I prefer to THINK.
@AnonymousWhatever so everything must have creation to exist? especially intelligence? what about god? are you saying something as infinite, powerful, and constantly creating (the universe) can not exist without creation itself but your god in almost the same logic and reason can? how? does god have a god? how about the god to that god? what you say makes no sence.
@compendiumgravemind Everything is created expect that which is not, that's God. God is from Everlasting to Everlasting. created things must be created by someone, and someone not created. And I'm pretty sure that's not "nothing", and neither is it this world. And this world is not infinite of it's own, and has no power of it's own, and is in no comparison with God...
Examine the fact that you are not God, and that you are a created being... If God didn't make you then who did? to believe that man is the highest power that exist is claiming you are God.
That is a logical error called "Begging the question". The question assumes that we were (a) created; and (b) the creating was done by a "who". Before you can ask this question, you first need to prove that we were created (and not formed by some natural process) AND that one or more agents capable of such an act of creation actually exist.
Effectively, the question in this form sheds no light on whether or not God exists.
@mandolinic There is no error in the question. It's quite simply. If your not created means that you were always was, and always will be by your own will, if thats not the case then you are a created being. Created by who? Must be by someone not created, that's God! And I'm not trying to prove God, God just is with your approval and without.
@AnonymousWhatever Again, you're assuming that something can only come into existence as a result of a conscious act of creation. We have examples from science which disprove this.
@AnonymousWhatever - What am I to examine? I'm only a person, who has questions like everyone else. If god is in yourself, then why so many non-believers?And what can you find in yourself that makes you sure that there is a god... Because god cannot be inside you. Isn't that self worship? Why so many different deites, religions and beliefs? If god is in everyone, why stronger in some people?
This video clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge as well as genuine experience of Christianity, therefore your conclusions are totally untrustworthy.
@hatedthanloved...all I can say is like the most strident religious apologest it is obvious you know very little about what is actually in the bible if you state that it would be a good guide for the world to follow. if mankind did genocide would be the order of the day and people would be executing family members every other day. get a clue ffs
@InFamousFeli Gee, if Athiests suck, I'm sure am glad I'm not an Athiest. Instead, I'm an atheist, and I believe this country I live in is a great country, because I can say (and even print on the internets) that I'm an atheist without being afraid of being killed for it. Hooray for America, hooray for the US Constitution!
@RandyJ007 o okay ur an athiest right ok prove to me there is no god.....iif u can do that ill stop talking shit give me an explanation on how the universe started from nothing.........
@InFamousFeli - First, you prove there is a god. And explain why yours is the correct one, when there are so many different religions and variations of the same bible? How are you sure that you are correct and how do you know that you are correct? Because you feel something special or do you think you feel something special? I'm more apt to believe in ghosts rather than a deity. Proof of god? It isn't in prayers. No physical evidence that there is one. Simple as that.
@InFamousFeli The universe did not start from nothing, it was a great collapse which condensed all matter into one mass which then exploded, giving us the big bang. it is cyclic.
The burden of proof lies on the one who makes a positive claim. Negative claims are not provable. Logic has to start somewhere.
It is on the one who claims there is a god, to prove it. Many parts of the bible have been debunked. Evolution killed creationism. Evolution has been proven.
I'm a theist and I actually agree with this video. I just wish to note, that paganism doesn't usually have a dogma and is very flexible. It is based a lot off of personal spiritual belief, but most pagans accept they have no right to expect others to believe as they do.
Consider a religion where it doesn't matter what you do in life you will go to hell. There is no heaven - only hell. Interestingly that should make you want to live your life on Earth to its fullest. You would want to live - not die. But that is kind of the way an atheist lives. It is all tied up in the here and now... Don’t worry about what comes after life – there is nothing you can do about it. Interesting...
Hey bro, do us all a favor, don't use flames and red text for the "Lies Christians Tell" part, it makes you seem very unsympatic and 'devilish' to any christians out there. Remain objective and don't categorize the 'lies' as 'evil'.
I'm an agnostic atheist myself, but I just thought I'd point that out.
@hatedthanloved, yes it is true that Christianity did in a way shape western civilization, but nowadays, if you still don't do those things because a book has scared you into doing it, instead of not doing them because its obviously wrong, then you Christians are more lost than us.
If I were to say that there was any evidence of God's existence, I would use the Holy Bible as evidence. There are some of God's so called laws in this book and all I know is that if people live their lives according to this book, a lot of troubles that we face in the world would not exist. This is fact. Examples: Do not kill. Do not steal. Do not Covet. Do not envy. Do not judge others. Do not commit adultery and sexual immorality. What do you say to this?
@hatedthanloved Shall we look at the bad parts then? Genocide, infanticide, fillicide, homophobia, slavery, racism, misogyny, incest, and eternal damnation for simply not being devout. And this is just to name a bit of it. What do you say to this?
@Not1delusion....ok...I must tell you that I am a black sheep of all Christians. I have no faith.
I base my belief in my God on reason, not on evidence of his physical exsistence (because you are speaking the truth when you say that I have none). The reason that I believe in God is because while it is true that no one has evidence that there is a God, it is also true that no one has evidence that there ins't a God.
@hatedthanloved Does that mean you accept the Bible as a valid source of literal information? Or do you accept that it was written by man who also believed in god (but that these men were also stupid and god didn't tell them how the universe was made).
Or do you mean that you only believe in god because there is no evidence to say that he doesn't exist? In which case. Which god do you believe in? Not trying to bash your beliefs but I do find it intriguing to learn a little about them.
@hildegain ....I accept the Bible a valid source of literal information which was written by man who believed in God. The logic behind my reason to believe is this: it is illogical to believe that we created ourselves...there must be a greater power or a higher being who must have played a role in the creation of the universe and the creation of mankind. This is the logic behind my belief based on the facts and the evidence that MAN DID NOT CREATE HIMSELF.
@hildegain ....I cannot say that I believe in God because no one can prove that he does not exist, that would be ludacris.or I can't say that I believe in God because the Bible can prove that a God does exist...that also would be ludacris and a BIG FAT LIE..but what I can say is this..deep down inside my belief in God (when I say God I am referring to whatever created me and the rest of mankind), comes from my heart and my mind as I feel that there is a personal connection btw me and my creator.
@hatedthanloved Ok, so you believe in god. You believe that the bible is correct? So you believe that plants were made before the sun and moon and that woman was made from a man's rib?
That's what I meant by accepting the bible as a valid source of literal information because it doesn't tally up with the real world at all.
Also, nobody has ever said that man made himself, I don't know where you got that one, nor do I understand your liberal use of caps :P
@hildegain....No. I am not saying that the Bible is correct...what I am saying is that I believe in a higher power...some superior intergallatic entity or force that created us. To me, that is my God. This force however it may exist is my God...this is the thing worthy of my praise. Now, as far as the Bible is concerned...it like all written materials cannot be any more literal than that of any other man...because all written material is written by man who in fact is subject to err.
@hatedthanloved Fair enough, I have no quarrel with someone who believes in Gods and I believe that you're probably a good person. I don't believe in any Gods but if I saw one I would have no reason to deny it. Have a good one :)
@hildegain ....I feel grateful to No1delusion for opening my eyes tot he truth. Now I know where my belief of God is coming from....OH AND HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH...CHRISTIANS DO LIE ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING....THEY ARE IN DENIAL....A STATE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO LIE TO THEMSELVES...THEREFORE THEY CANNOT EVEN BEGAN TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
@hatedthanloved I too look forward to seeing your reasons for believing anything in your religion is true. I hope you will post them once you think of them.
@hatedthanloved you can be a christian and not believe in souls, ghosts, jesus, the after life or god. if you follow the teaching of jesus, you are a christian. if you take as absolute truth to everything. you become a theist and dangerious to socity the choices, leaders, and policies that go with it. anyone with the power to vote and believes themselfs to be 100% historicly, moral, and truthful are dangerious. this is why im atheist. to an extent.
@compendiumgravemind You are an atheist because you are a moron. You ignore all science, logic and fact that proves THERE is a God. You call yourself moral you coward? You are OK with abortion, homosexuality, socialism, sex with dogs, pedophilia, etc.. Those ARE the reasons your a atheist. You are like a virus on humanity.
@JesusChristDaily moron, moron, moron bla bla... your a no one with with hate aganst truth, you are also a delusional ass. you have made far to many errors, like i said no one takes you seriously. you are an immoral coward.
@JesusChristDaily i can not prove to someone that something does not exist, when it in fact does not exist. your a intellectual coward afraid of truth so you ignore it for your own person dogma. prove allah does not exist. prove unicorns dont exist. prove santa does not exist. prove your not an atheist ranting and raving calling everyone but yourself a moron. just to make fun of christianity and give christians a bad name. you have no argument to prove wrong please provide them.
@JesusChristDaily i cant help but to admire the irnoy in almost every comment you ever posted. unless it involves god's goodness in some way. all you can say is coward, moron, immoral or a pedophile. its rather funny. true irony would be calling people a hypocrite. can you please do it once? i do love basking in others ignorance. i love you, i really do its people like you that makes me proud i not longer believe non-sence. again thank you for reminding me why im not christian anymore. =)
@compendiumgravemind You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat. You give atheist a bad name and that's hard to do. You can debate nothing because you know nothing. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance. You see after all your moronic banter the facts always remain. NOTHING you say is intelligible even to atheist. You are a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
@JesusChristDaily thank you i need prove nothing, you prove enough for everyone. this man speaks for god and look at what he speaks. lacking truth in almost every aspect. im going to start thanking you for every post. really. way to turn my comment around it took that insult of mine to give you new material. nicely done. now use something of your own. also i never said anywhere ever i was an atheist as i stated before. you just want me to be. you need an enemy figure to exist. you insane. a joke
@JesusChristDaily omg! yes! your irony is like an orgasim. please keep going. im saving everything i see. its like porn every time im feeling down about myself i look at you and stupidity it makes the world a better place in my eyes... for awile aleast. then sheer dishonestly like yours then just become annoying. luckly your more irony then stupidity. ehh there kinda even. but the shit you say is so backwards its funny. you must be a satire. a dam good one too! thank you fellow atheist!
@compendiumgravemind You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat. You give atheist a bad name and that's hard to do. You can debate nothing because you know nothing. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance. You see after all your moronic banter the facts always remain. NOTHING you say is intelligible even to atheist. You are a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
@JesusChristDaily "You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat"
Your god is obviouly the work of extra terrestrial pranksers. Clearly our bronzeage ancestry would have been too primative to sort the difference. You should know better.
You can't prove anything I say is false. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance.
Aliens are using the god myth as a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
@JesusChristDaily Morality? Christians worship a guy who fucked his mother with his father and a ghost in a foursome orgy, so the son could get a flesh condom to walk around in.
There is no science in the bible, or in the existence of a god, because god does not exist.
You are the moron, you believe in fire breathing sea monsters, unicorns, giants, ghosts, witches, dragons, and magic and zombies.
@realoldguy1969 Hey moron this is where you get owned again. Just because the Bible speaks on rape, murder, etc.. doesn't mean God condones it you idiot. Maybe YOU should actually go to Bible study or actually open a Bible.
@JesusChristDaily duet 22-28 RAPE CONDONED BY GOD"S LAWS 28 -29 When a man comes upon a virgin who has never been engaged and grabs and rapes her and they are found out, the man who raped her has to give her father fifty pieces of silver. He has to marry her because he took advantage of her. And he can never divorce her.
Moses, Eleazar, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet the returning army outside the camp. Moses was furious with the army officers—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—as they came back from the battlefield:
@realoldguy1969 Once again you prove all I say is true about you being a moron. Heres the real verses you idiot.
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Does that sound like rape to you moron? You out yourself coward!!!
"What's this! You've let these women live! They're the ones who, under Balaam's direction, seduced the People of Israel away from God in that mess at Peor, causing the plague that hit God's people. Finish your job: kill all the boys. Kill every woman who has slept with a man. The younger women who are virgins you can keep alive for yourselves.
Just two video suggestions away is a wilful ignorant video by qwertyfshag, who just says these things you just said. :D It's a self-pwnage and a perfect video suggestion in this situation.
I watched the William Lane Craig video. Christianity stands intellectually head and shoulders above every ism, says Professor Craig at the end, after already denying empiricism any validity if its results contradict his beliefs. Apologetics: another word for charlatanism.
1. Atehist: The big bang made everything (has no proof but a bunch of telescopes and predictions) Christian: There is a God ( Has no proof but a book that has existed for thousands of years.)
2. Atheist: Everybody should believe what they want. ( But continues to call christians names because they want to believe there is a god.) Christians: Believe in god or you will go to hell. ( Which is not helping people stay faithful)
"They've already made up their minds to dogmatically reject any evidence that contradicts what they would like to believe" yes, that is called the fallacy of confirmation bias, and absolutely all devoutly religious people do. It's pathetic, in my opinion.
pagans are an intresting group some of them believe in god/dess and some are Naturalistic pagans, its a very mixed group some of it being really irrational and some actually being rational. so itsquite hard to lump them all together!
@Not1delusion Thanks so much. Yup, WLC is not "led by the evidence" at all - he really does not care about the evidence. He does not care that his "self authenticating" experience of the holy spirit could be fantasy. When he researches a topic, his goal is always to find an angle that he feels confirms his existing belief.
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But the same arguement is given by atheists. I've had atheists tell me that signs, wonders, and miracles can not be considered evidence for God. These atheists are equally dogmatic in their beliefs. They say that even though the laws of physics may be broken, they won't consider God as being a factor.
You obviously do not know many atheists. For most atheists have proven themselfs to be equally, or more dogmatic.
@TrustinJC Your argument is typically flawed in that those who take a naturalistic view of reality do not do so based on any beliefs. It's not dogmatic to adopt the viewpoint that the supernatural shouldn't be taken into consideration simply because there isn't sufficient evidence to support it. Stop assuming everyone views things like you do on faith and belief without evidence. For the atheist/naturalist, belief is simply not a part of the equation.
@TrustinJC "signs, wonders, and miracles can not be considered evidence for God"
Sure they can, just as much as evidence for faries, leprechauns, aliens etc. -Though to claim what one saw was a miracle in the way you mean would be quite audaciuos as they would also have to claim they know everthing perfectly and have flawless judgement. The atheist wouldn't be so bold. He would think "now there is something I DON'T KNOW about the Laws of Physics, better study and investigate to figure it out.
@TrustinJC . "It strikes me as a most bizarre irony when christians try to discredit atheists by accusing atheists of doing the same things as christians."
It looks like you got as far as 3:14 in the video. Now try watching the rest, see what you think then.
@TrustinJC LOL no. Someone healing from cancer is not a miracle. While unlikely, it is biologically possible. A miracle does not have ANY scientific explanations. So until you find me an amputee who regrew a limb overnight, it's not a miracle. Or until the sun stops in the sky for a few hours with no discernible movement (and we all don't fly off at 24,000 kph). Until then, no miracles.
@xcellken1 What's the point in answering when some atheist will only give the comment so many thumbs down that it will be hidden, just like my previous comment?
@TrustinJC Since when does an atheist believe that the laws of physics may be broken? The only time we observe a supposed law of the universe being broken is when we observe something that we have yet to have learned about.
The same was said about quantum tunneling, the movement of an electron through a physical barrier that had previously been thought impossible. Did God really put time and effort into moving an electron or was it simply something that would later be studied? Obvious.
I 100% unwaveringly BELIEVE a bunch of bronze age goat herders tried to explain things beyond their comprehension using the best deductive methods of the time: guessing and just making shit up.
The worst aspect of the Christian apologist "reasoning" is that it relies on the object person is TOLD what is, and not learn, discover, or reason out what is.
Being told what is true is tyrannical at it's base. At the risk of losing the argument by Godwin's law, forcing ideas to be accepted as true without the individual not learning it for themselves, discovering it by leading them through an experiment or process, is what Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Torquemada, and all great tyrants do.
I saw my imaginary friend! I don't care who believes me or not, I saw him! Even if there is evidence to the contrary, I don't care! I know what I saw!
@MunkyDrag0n That reminds me an episode of the simpson in which Marge was put into an assylum because she talked to her friend who is invisible, knows it all and is everywhere.
Problem is, religious people have plenty of what they call "evidence". I don't really know how to counter their arguments, they accuse ME of refusing their evidence.
- Convertions: fulltime sinners who received "enlightenment" and got into believing;
- Miracles: people on a wheelchair who get up and walk again after they've visited a sanctuary;
- Exorcisms: Priests driving the devil out of "possessed" people who scream "I'm a devil named Belzebub, darn you priest!"
@BrightSoul80 hi,Evidence?......I can explain that for you...it's all deception and circus tricks
1=IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEAD,THEY WANTED TO BELIEVE TO SUIT THEIR OWN GREED OR NEEDS
2=THEY WALK,BECAUSE THEY CAN ALREADY....I WANT TO SEE A LIMB GROW BACK OR BE REPLACED,NOW THAT WOULD BE A MIRICLE
3=POSSESSION, ITS ONLY HOLLYWOOD OR MOVIES,OR ONLY ON T.V.,DONT YOU THINK THE PEOPLE FROM THAT SUPPOSSED EXORCIST TRUE STORY MOVIE WOULD BE ON T.V. OR SPOTLIGHT FOR THEIR SOLID PROOF OF IT BEING REAL?B.S!
Yes, and famous atheists commonly have deathbed conversions. /barf
It's just propaganda. I've never seen a single shred of evidence for any miracle, or exorcism, just more meaningless claims from obscure people. NDE's are the same thing. Every single piece of evidence christians try to put forth always inevitably fails, utterly.
The reason we refuse their evidence is because it is not VALID. It is literally NOT evidence. Personal testimony is worthless for a claim of this nature.
Yes, and famous atheists commonly have deathbed conversions. \barf
It's just propaganda. I've never seen a single shred of evidence for any miracle, or exorcism, just more meaningless claims from obscure people. NDE's are the same thing. Every single piece of evidence christians try to put forth always inevitably fails, utterly.
The reason we refuse their evidence is because it is not VALID. It is literally NOT evidence. Personal testimony is worthless for a claim of this nature.
WLC, by his own words, demonstrates the inherent dishonesty present when the religious enter into "debate" or say they want rational discussion on the subject of their religion. There can be no rational discussion when facts are, by premeditation, going to be disregarded by one of the parties in the discussion.
The thing is they can do it but not atheist. Just look around youtube, creatinists channels commonly screen comments, blocked disagreeing comments and hit then block.
@7:18 you say "Christians never show any evidence at all". This seems dishonest at best. You certainly can not say that Christians don't show any evidence, even if that "evidence" is bad science or nonsense or just fails to prove their theology. Overall great video but these sorts of rash generalizations detract from your argument and your credibility.
@brazentongue - He is correct, though. Dogmatists do not show evidence. Oh, they show "evidence," but it's not empirical, peer-reviewed, experimentally verifiable evidence, so it's not evidence.
Men have nipples and can breastfeed. This is evidence there is no god.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
i smell self deceivers. if only they had some evidence.
kram83au 1 month ago
@kram83auYou SMELL deceivers? Through the internet?? liar.
EntinludeX 1 month ago
@EntinludeX hey, ive got a gift from the god mithras.never doubt the one true god mithras,for my god gave me smellavision, and you cannot disprove this. huh, stick that in yer pipe.
kram83au 1 month ago
I would think a man who says he saw Bigfoot to be more sane than one who says he saw the holy ghost.
MunkyDrag0n 1 month ago
As an atheist I do not believe whatever the evidence says. Knowing that people make mistakes and evidence can lead to the wrong conclusion, I prefer to say that I "use" or "assume" whatever the evidence seems to strongly imply, but this is not a belief. And I am always completely open to changing my "model of reality" the second evidence seems to steer away from my current assumptions, no matter how true that assumption seemed to be before this new info.
Aprilshowersss 1 month ago
"self authenticating"? - tide goes in - tide goes out.
SierraBravoOneNiner 1 month ago
The internal witness of the Holy Spirit is evidence. Such inner witness is even described in Romans 8:16. It's an internal witness which we cannot expect those who never experienced the reality of it can neither accept or understand. Obviously you are only able to speak negatively about that which you have no knowledge or experience of of. The Holy Spirit's inner witness in each believer is a subjective as well as objective evidence. You should stick with things you have experience with.
BT3701 1 month ago
@BT3701.
I was a christian for 24 years.
There are also many Christians who disagree fundamentally with you, and claim the holy spirit as their evidence as well.
Not1delusion 1 month ago
@Not1delusion The truth of the matter is, that many who claim to be Christian actually aren't. That also can be proven from what is found in Scripture.
BT3701 1 month ago
@BT3701 .
I knew it! You're a fake Christian. No real Christian would try to use such an ignorant argument.
Not1delusion 1 month ago 4
@Not1delusion LOL - Now That's Funny
BT3701 1 month ago
@Not1delusion The awesomeness of this burn is apparently lost on him/her
osmosis321 2 weeks ago
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@BT3701 Would you expect this same moral bankrupt & pestilential mass murderer God of the OT to become a teacher of morals; of gentleness; of meekness; of righteousness; of purityin the NT?
What immense sarcasms & giant hypocrisies! The very same god ordered the massacre of the men, women, babies, & cattle; the destruction of house & city; the kidnapping & banishment of the virgins into a filthy unspeakable slavery...fashoned the Beatitudes of Christ?
Only in the diaries of a madman.
EntinludeX 1 month ago
@Not1delusion What evidence do you have that you were in fact a Christian? I would love to hear the details.
BT3701 1 month ago
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@BT3701 "The internal witness of the Holy Spirit is evidence.
Supposing that aliens arn't using a telepathic communicaiton device to prank the local inhabitants of earth. It's a telepathic communication which we cannot expect those who never experienced the reality of it can neither accept or understand.
The inner witness in each alien believer is a subjective as well as objective evidence. You should stick with things you have experience with.
EntinludeX 1 month ago
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@BT3701
"You should stick with things you have experience with."
You should stick with facts and evidence. Feelings don't count.
Pigdowndog 1 month ago
@BT3701 I experienced god for 40 years. I believed. I read the whole bible, from cover to cover, and I am willing to imply you have never.
If you did, you would be an Atheist.
Your beliefs are not based in fact, but in folly. Like a child who saw a monster under their bed or in their closet, you believe what you do without the ability to support it with evidence.
Religion is for adults who wish to participate, and like cigarettes, it should be illegal to share with your kids.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 Actually I have read the entire Bible cover to cover approximately 90 or so times, and the more times I read it the stronger my faith becomes. Concerning the rest of your reply all I can say is you're entitled to your opinion.
BT3701 1 month ago
@BT3701 If you read the bible 90 times, Then maybe you can tell me where in the bible god said he created hell. And dinosaurs, and can you explain the fire breathing sea monster known as Leviathan, because there have been no remains found of such a creature, or the race of giants, or the unicorns talked about in the bible?
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 I would rather show you the main message found in the Bible which is God's love for you and how He wants you to be saved. The eternal destiny of your soul is the most important decision a man should be concerned about. If you haven't as yet taken care of the final destination of your soul and where you will spend eternity, then all that other stuff is unimportant.
BT3701 1 month ago
@BT3701 How retarded.
Just answer the question. When did god create hell.
Validating god through his word is important because if he can't, he is an invalid, and not much of a god.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 The Bible doesn't specifically say WHEN did God create hell. The only thing we need to know is that it exists and that God has provided a way to escape from it for all who believe in Jesus. Escape from it should be your main concern.
BT3701 1 month ago
@BT3701 The bible doesn't say, therefore god never did it. Have you any idea what heaven is like in the bible? I would consider an eternity in biblical heaven as hell.
Have you researched the word "hell"?
I can wipe my ass with your religious message.
If god, Jesus, and the holy spirit are one, then Jesus lost his virginity to his virgin mother, in a four way gangbang. What do you call someone who has sex with their mother?
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@BT3701 Ahh yes, your moral and loving god has given us free will to make up our own minds.. it's just that we'll burn for eternity if we don't do what he wants.
Of course we should embrace Jesus, it's the only loophole in the system. We're doomed from the start; created sick and commanded to be well.
What a twisted fantasy world you live in. No thanks, I prefer to THINK.
osmosis321 2 weeks ago
NOTHING from science "proves" that. everything here is "created" and Must be by a creator. And I'm pretty sure common sense doesn't disprove that.
AnonymousWhatever 1 month ago
@AnonymousWhatever so everything must have creation to exist? especially intelligence? what about god? are you saying something as infinite, powerful, and constantly creating (the universe) can not exist without creation itself but your god in almost the same logic and reason can? how? does god have a god? how about the god to that god? what you say makes no sence.
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@compendiumgravemind Everything is created expect that which is not, that's God. God is from Everlasting to Everlasting. created things must be created by someone, and someone not created. And I'm pretty sure that's not "nothing", and neither is it this world. And this world is not infinite of it's own, and has no power of it's own, and is in no comparison with God...
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@AnonymousWhatever "created things must be created by someone, and someone not created"
An uncreated creator? Thats nonsense.
EntinludeX 1 month ago
Examine the fact that you are not God, and that you are a created being... If God didn't make you then who did? to believe that man is the highest power that exist is claiming you are God.
AnonymousWhatever 2 months ago
@AnonymousWhatever "If God didn't make you then who did?"
That is a logical error called "Begging the question". The question assumes that we were (a) created; and (b) the creating was done by a "who". Before you can ask this question, you first need to prove that we were created (and not formed by some natural process) AND that one or more agents capable of such an act of creation actually exist.
Effectively, the question in this form sheds no light on whether or not God exists.
mandolinic 1 month ago
@mandolinic There is no error in the question. It's quite simply. If your not created means that you were always was, and always will be by your own will, if thats not the case then you are a created being. Created by who? Must be by someone not created, that's God! And I'm not trying to prove God, God just is with your approval and without.
AnonymousWhatever 1 month ago
@AnonymousWhatever Again, you're assuming that something can only come into existence as a result of a conscious act of creation. We have examples from science which disprove this.
mandolinic 1 month ago
@mandolinic My mother and father made me. it is called reproduction, all forms of life partake in this in one fashion or another.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 So *that's* how it's done! Well, f-ck me... ;-)
mandolinic 1 month ago
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Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart. have u done that?
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Heaven or Hell? Does this concern you?
Do u need a Savior from your sins?
Jesus (The Son of God)came, lived a sinless life, died on the cross (for our sins) and rose again on the third day.
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standingontruth1 3 months ago in playlist Reason and Science
To Believe has to be based on someone not nothing, to not believe is base on nothing. There is prove of God... examine yourself.
AnonymousWhatever 5 months ago
@AnonymousWhatever - What am I to examine? I'm only a person, who has questions like everyone else. If god is in yourself, then why so many non-believers?And what can you find in yourself that makes you sure that there is a god... Because god cannot be inside you. Isn't that self worship? Why so many different deites, religions and beliefs? If god is in everyone, why stronger in some people?
RosyBibliophile 4 months ago
This video clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge as well as genuine experience of Christianity, therefore your conclusions are totally untrustworthy.
BT3701 5 months ago
@hatedthanloved...all I can say is like the most strident religious apologest it is obvious you know very little about what is actually in the bible if you state that it would be a good guide for the world to follow. if mankind did genocide would be the order of the day and people would be executing family members every other day. get a clue ffs
psycho3968 5 months ago 2
Athiests Suck
InFamousFeli 5 months ago
@InFamousFeli Your mama is better at that than us..
Vikramthewhite 5 months ago
@Vikramthewhite cool
InFamousFeli 5 months ago
@InFamousFeli Gee, if Athiests suck, I'm sure am glad I'm not an Athiest. Instead, I'm an atheist, and I believe this country I live in is a great country, because I can say (and even print on the internets) that I'm an atheist without being afraid of being killed for it. Hooray for America, hooray for the US Constitution!
TimCubUAkbar 5 months ago
@InFamousFeli Wow... is that your best argument? You've never had an actual discussion with an atheist, have you?
RandyJ007 5 months ago 2
@RandyJ007 o okay ur an athiest right ok prove to me there is no god.....iif u can do that ill stop talking shit give me an explanation on how the universe started from nothing.........
InFamousFeli 5 months ago
@InFamousFeli - First, you prove there is a god. And explain why yours is the correct one, when there are so many different religions and variations of the same bible? How are you sure that you are correct and how do you know that you are correct? Because you feel something special or do you think you feel something special? I'm more apt to believe in ghosts rather than a deity. Proof of god? It isn't in prayers. No physical evidence that there is one. Simple as that.
RosyBibliophile 4 months ago
@InFamousFeli The universe did not start from nothing, it was a great collapse which condensed all matter into one mass which then exploded, giving us the big bang. it is cyclic.
The burden of proof lies on the one who makes a positive claim. Negative claims are not provable. Logic has to start somewhere.
It is on the one who claims there is a god, to prove it. Many parts of the bible have been debunked. Evolution killed creationism. Evolution has been proven.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
I'm a theist and I actually agree with this video. I just wish to note, that paganism doesn't usually have a dogma and is very flexible. It is based a lot off of personal spiritual belief, but most pagans accept they have no right to expect others to believe as they do.
Boudiga 7 months ago
Consider a religion where it doesn't matter what you do in life you will go to hell. There is no heaven - only hell. Interestingly that should make you want to live your life on Earth to its fullest. You would want to live - not die. But that is kind of the way an atheist lives. It is all tied up in the here and now... Don’t worry about what comes after life – there is nothing you can do about it. Interesting...
apeek7 7 months ago
Hey bro, do us all a favor, don't use flames and red text for the "Lies Christians Tell" part, it makes you seem very unsympatic and 'devilish' to any christians out there. Remain objective and don't categorize the 'lies' as 'evil'.
I'm an agnostic atheist myself, but I just thought I'd point that out.
Lacrez 7 months ago
Religious people can believe whatever they want, just don't push it on others.
LegionIscariot 8 months ago 7
@hatedthanloved, yes it is true that Christianity did in a way shape western civilization, but nowadays, if you still don't do those things because a book has scared you into doing it, instead of not doing them because its obviously wrong, then you Christians are more lost than us.
kere98 8 months ago
ALL I CAN SAY TO THIS VIDEO IS AMEN
hatedthanloved 8 months ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
If I were to say that there was any evidence of God's existence, I would use the Holy Bible as evidence. There are some of God's so called laws in this book and all I know is that if people live their lives according to this book, a lot of troubles that we face in the world would not exist. This is fact. Examples: Do not kill. Do not steal. Do not Covet. Do not envy. Do not judge others. Do not commit adultery and sexual immorality. What do you say to this?
hatedthanloved 8 months ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@hatedthanloved Shall we look at the bad parts then? Genocide, infanticide, fillicide, homophobia, slavery, racism, misogyny, incest, and eternal damnation for simply not being devout. And this is just to name a bit of it. What do you say to this?
atheistjacob 4 months ago
I AM A CHRISTIAN...BUT I CARE IF MY BELIEFS ARE TRUE.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@hatedthanloved. That's great! Maybe you could share with us your reasons for believing that anything in your religion is true?
Not1delusion 8 months ago 16
@Not1delusion....ok...I must tell you that I am a black sheep of all Christians. I have no faith.
I base my belief in my God on reason, not on evidence of his physical exsistence (because you are speaking the truth when you say that I have none). The reason that I believe in God is because while it is true that no one has evidence that there is a God, it is also true that no one has evidence that there ins't a God.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@hatedthanloved Does that mean you accept the Bible as a valid source of literal information? Or do you accept that it was written by man who also believed in god (but that these men were also stupid and god didn't tell them how the universe was made).
Or do you mean that you only believe in god because there is no evidence to say that he doesn't exist? In which case. Which god do you believe in? Not trying to bash your beliefs but I do find it intriguing to learn a little about them.
hildegain 8 months ago
@hildegain ....I accept the Bible a valid source of literal information which was written by man who believed in God. The logic behind my reason to believe is this: it is illogical to believe that we created ourselves...there must be a greater power or a higher being who must have played a role in the creation of the universe and the creation of mankind. This is the logic behind my belief based on the facts and the evidence that MAN DID NOT CREATE HIMSELF.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago
@hildegain ....I cannot say that I believe in God because no one can prove that he does not exist, that would be ludacris.or I can't say that I believe in God because the Bible can prove that a God does exist...that also would be ludacris and a BIG FAT LIE..but what I can say is this..deep down inside my belief in God (when I say God I am referring to whatever created me and the rest of mankind), comes from my heart and my mind as I feel that there is a personal connection btw me and my creator.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago
@hatedthanloved Ok, so you believe in god. You believe that the bible is correct? So you believe that plants were made before the sun and moon and that woman was made from a man's rib?
That's what I meant by accepting the bible as a valid source of literal information because it doesn't tally up with the real world at all.
Also, nobody has ever said that man made himself, I don't know where you got that one, nor do I understand your liberal use of caps :P
hildegain 8 months ago 2
@hildegain....No. I am not saying that the Bible is correct...what I am saying is that I believe in a higher power...some superior intergallatic entity or force that created us. To me, that is my God. This force however it may exist is my God...this is the thing worthy of my praise. Now, as far as the Bible is concerned...it like all written materials cannot be any more literal than that of any other man...because all written material is written by man who in fact is subject to err.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago
@hatedthanloved Fair enough, I have no quarrel with someone who believes in Gods and I believe that you're probably a good person. I don't believe in any Gods but if I saw one I would have no reason to deny it. Have a good one :)
hildegain 8 months ago
@hildegain ....I feel grateful to No1delusion for opening my eyes tot he truth. Now I know where my belief of God is coming from....OH AND HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH...CHRISTIANS DO LIE ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING....THEY ARE IN DENIAL....A STATE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO LIE TO THEMSELVES...THEREFORE THEY CANNOT EVEN BEGAN TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
hatedthanloved 8 months ago
@hatedthanloved IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GET YOUR VIDEOS SO THAT I CAN WATCH THEM ON MY TV IN MY DVD PLAYER?
hatedthanloved 8 months ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@hatedthanloved I too look forward to seeing your reasons for believing anything in your religion is true. I hope you will post them once you think of them.
KevinLounsberry 4 months ago
@hatedthanloved you can be a christian and not believe in souls, ghosts, jesus, the after life or god. if you follow the teaching of jesus, you are a christian. if you take as absolute truth to everything. you become a theist and dangerious to socity the choices, leaders, and policies that go with it. anyone with the power to vote and believes themselfs to be 100% historicly, moral, and truthful are dangerious. this is why im atheist. to an extent.
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago in playlist Lies Christians Tell and why They Tell Them
@compendiumgravemind You are an atheist because you are a moron. You ignore all science, logic and fact that proves THERE is a God. You call yourself moral you coward? You are OK with abortion, homosexuality, socialism, sex with dogs, pedophilia, etc.. Those ARE the reasons your a atheist. You are like a virus on humanity.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily moron, moron, moron bla bla... your a no one with with hate aganst truth, you are also a delusional ass. you have made far to many errors, like i said no one takes you seriously. you are an immoral coward.
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago
@compendiumgravemind LOL says the moron that can't even begin to prove my videos wrong. You are moral coward and pedophile.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily i can not prove to someone that something does not exist, when it in fact does not exist. your a intellectual coward afraid of truth so you ignore it for your own person dogma. prove allah does not exist. prove unicorns dont exist. prove santa does not exist. prove your not an atheist ranting and raving calling everyone but yourself a moron. just to make fun of christianity and give christians a bad name. you have no argument to prove wrong please provide them.
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily i cant help but to admire the irnoy in almost every comment you ever posted. unless it involves god's goodness in some way. all you can say is coward, moron, immoral or a pedophile. its rather funny. true irony would be calling people a hypocrite. can you please do it once? i do love basking in others ignorance. i love you, i really do its people like you that makes me proud i not longer believe non-sence. again thank you for reminding me why im not christian anymore. =)
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago
@compendiumgravemind You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat. You give atheist a bad name and that's hard to do. You can debate nothing because you know nothing. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance. You see after all your moronic banter the facts always remain. NOTHING you say is intelligible even to atheist. You are a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily thank you i need prove nothing, you prove enough for everyone. this man speaks for god and look at what he speaks. lacking truth in almost every aspect. im going to start thanking you for every post. really. way to turn my comment around it took that insult of mine to give you new material. nicely done. now use something of your own. also i never said anywhere ever i was an atheist as i stated before. you just want me to be. you need an enemy figure to exist. you insane. a joke
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily omg! yes! your irony is like an orgasim. please keep going. im saving everything i see. its like porn every time im feeling down about myself i look at you and stupidity it makes the world a better place in my eyes... for awile aleast. then sheer dishonestly like yours then just become annoying. luckly your more irony then stupidity. ehh there kinda even. but the shit you say is so backwards its funny. you must be a satire. a dam good one too! thank you fellow atheist!
compendiumgravemind 1 month ago
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@compendiumgravemind You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat. You give atheist a bad name and that's hard to do. You can debate nothing because you know nothing. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance. You see after all your moronic banter the facts always remain. NOTHING you say is intelligible even to atheist. You are a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily "You can't prove ANYTHING I say is false yet you around spreading your disease like a sewer rat"
Your god is obviouly the work of extra terrestrial pranksers. Clearly our bronzeage ancestry would have been too primative to sort the difference. You should know better.
You can't prove anything I say is false. Please keep posting because you are an icon of stupidity and ignorance.
Aliens are using the god myth as a pathetic troll seeking attention good or bad.
EntinludeX 1 month ago
@EntinludeX Wow you out yourself as the biggest moron on earth.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily Right, guess that's between me, the spirits, & the demons, eh, Nobel Prize Winner?
EntinludeX 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily Morality? Christians worship a guy who fucked his mother with his father and a ghost in a foursome orgy, so the son could get a flesh condom to walk around in.
There is no science in the bible, or in the existence of a god, because god does not exist.
You are the moron, you believe in fire breathing sea monsters, unicorns, giants, ghosts, witches, dragons, and magic and zombies.
Read your goddamn bible.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily
If god made man in his image, does god have nipples?
Did god breastfeed Adam?
Did god get aroused at breastfeeding his child? Was this the first homosexual pedophile act?
This makes sense and explains biblical oppression towards women, and the self loathing homophobia it contains.
God has nipple envy!
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 Thanks for posting that it shows just how much mental capacity you posses.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily
Your inability to defend the bible after reading it 90 or so times shows how much of it you retained.
Abram aka Abraham, gave permission to his wife to bang the king of Egypt.
Joseph permitted god to ravish his wife Mary, and to take her virginity, unloading his seed so his kid could grow a flesh condom in her.
Funny how it turned him gay, being in a gangbang with his dad and mom, and Uncle Holy Spirit.
This is why Christians have sexual issues with women.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 Hey moron this is where you get owned again. Just because the Bible speaks on rape, murder, etc.. doesn't mean God condones it you idiot. Maybe YOU should actually go to Bible study or actually open a Bible.
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily duet 22-28 RAPE CONDONED BY GOD"S LAWS 28 -29 When a man comes upon a virgin who has never been engaged and grabs and rapes her and they are found out, the man who raped her has to give her father fifty pieces of silver. He has to marry her because he took advantage of her. And he can never divorce her.
copied and pasted from bibledotfuckingcom
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily part one
Numbers 31:13 (Whole Chapter)
Moses, Eleazar, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet the returning army outside the camp. Moses was furious with the army officers—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—as they came back from the battlefield:
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
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JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
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@realoldguy1969 Once again you prove all I say is true about you being a moron. Heres the real verses you idiot.
28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Does that sound like rape to you moron? You out yourself coward!!!
JesusChristDaily 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily part 2
"What's this! You've let these women live! They're the ones who, under Balaam's direction, seduced the People of Israel away from God in that mess at Peor, causing the plague that hit God's people. Finish your job: kill all the boys. Kill every woman who has slept with a man. The younger women who are virgins you can keep alive for yourselves.
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@JesusChristDaily There I found what you haven't with 90 readings of the bible.
What do you have to say about that!?
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
Just two video suggestions away is a wilful ignorant video by qwertyfshag, who just says these things you just said. :D It's a self-pwnage and a perfect video suggestion in this situation.
MardasMan 9 months ago
BEAUTIFUL video! <33333
Love it, faved, thumbed, subed ^_^
Vessoland 9 months ago
I watched the William Lane Craig video. Christianity stands intellectually head and shoulders above every ism, says Professor Craig at the end, after already denying empiricism any validity if its results contradict his beliefs. Apologetics: another word for charlatanism.
stevehayes13 9 months ago
EXCELLENT! very good job. i faved.
peace, lardo444.
lardo444 9 months ago
Good music. What are the instrumentals
luffyjam 9 months ago
@luffyjam . This is hardcore by the pulp i think.
Not1delusion 9 months ago
ABOUT ATHEIST AND CHRISTIANS
1. Atehist: The big bang made everything (has no proof but a bunch of telescopes and predictions) Christian: There is a God ( Has no proof but a book that has existed for thousands of years.)
2. Atheist: Everybody should believe what they want. ( But continues to call christians names because they want to believe there is a god.) Christians: Believe in god or you will go to hell. ( Which is not helping people stay faithful)
You can see what i see?
ChocolateRabbitEars 10 months ago
@ChocolateRabbitEars If you are a day over 16 you should consider pursuing a career either sports-based or in manual labor.
Skindoggiedog 10 months ago
@Skindoggiedog What does that mean or have to do with anything?
ChocolateRabbitEars 10 months ago
Oh did someone here mentioned that you made a blunder: confused the star of David with the (satanic) pentagram.
Not that I would care, but it looks kinda funny ^_^
SeltsamerAttraktor 10 months ago
@SeltsamerAttraktor Actually, that pentagram is the wiccan pentagram. The satanic pentagram is inverted and has the face of baphomet on it.
atheistjacob 4 months ago
"They've already made up their minds to dogmatically reject any evidence that contradicts what they would like to believe" yes, that is called the fallacy of confirmation bias, and absolutely all devoutly religious people do. It's pathetic, in my opinion.
McTaggStar 10 months ago
WilliamLaneCraig: idiot.
McTaggStar 10 months ago
Great series! Keep on rocking, brother!!!
An0maly777 10 months ago
pagans are an intresting group some of them believe in god/dess and some are Naturalistic pagans, its a very mixed group some of it being really irrational and some actually being rational. so itsquite hard to lump them all together!
FawkesUniverse 11 months ago
Mr. Craig is pathetic.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 11 months ago
another excellent piece of reasoning . keep up the good work N1D, your a credit to humanity.
kram83au 11 months ago
watching this video whilst listenning classic 80's new wave electro =win
jmm1233 11 months ago
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"This quote by WLC is 100% proof positive that he is insane, and should be committed to an appropriate institution."
HELL YEAH!!l
djalessandromagno 11 months ago
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"This quote by WLC is 100% proof positive that he is insane, and should be committed to an appropriate institution."
HELL YEAH!!
djalessandromagno 11 months ago
I was waiting for 'which pill will you choose Neo?'.
DeanBuchanan 11 months ago
I love the calm, factual and rational approach, which still manages to bring the point across.
It makes me sound like a hysterical drama queen in my videos.
StopSpamming1 11 months ago
I cannot like this video enough. Perfectly stated, good sir.
boblajoe1 11 months ago
@boblajoe1 Thanks :)
Not1delusion 11 months ago
Please link to the original WLC vid.
paulurban2 1 year ago
@paulurban2 Thanks for the suggestion. I just did.
Not1delusion 11 months ago
@Not1delusion Thanks so much. Yup, WLC is not "led by the evidence" at all - he really does not care about the evidence. He does not care that his "self authenticating" experience of the holy spirit could be fantasy. When he researches a topic, his goal is always to find an angle that he feels confirms his existing belief.
paulurban2 11 months ago
"It makes you an evil prick." Words for the ages!
Very well put. It's always seemed ironic to me that the worst things that theists can accuse us of are their own faults.
tctheunbeliever 1 year ago 3
Another great video. Glad to see you back again.
webhed003 1 year ago 5
@webhed003 Thanks. Glad to know you're still watching
Not1delusion 11 months ago
Great work my friend :) excellent vid.
MasterOhSo 1 year ago 7
@MasterOhSo Thanks for that :)
Not1delusion 11 months ago
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But the same arguement is given by atheists. I've had atheists tell me that signs, wonders, and miracles can not be considered evidence for God. These atheists are equally dogmatic in their beliefs. They say that even though the laws of physics may be broken, they won't consider God as being a factor.
You obviously do not know many atheists. For most atheists have proven themselfs to be equally, or more dogmatic.
TrustinJC 1 year ago
@TrustinJC Your argument is typically flawed in that those who take a naturalistic view of reality do not do so based on any beliefs. It's not dogmatic to adopt the viewpoint that the supernatural shouldn't be taken into consideration simply because there isn't sufficient evidence to support it. Stop assuming everyone views things like you do on faith and belief without evidence. For the atheist/naturalist, belief is simply not a part of the equation.
gigisdad 1 year ago
@TrustinJC "signs, wonders, and miracles can not be considered evidence for God"
Sure they can, just as much as evidence for faries, leprechauns, aliens etc. -Though to claim what one saw was a miracle in the way you mean would be quite audaciuos as they would also have to claim they know everthing perfectly and have flawless judgement. The atheist wouldn't be so bold. He would think "now there is something I DON'T KNOW about the Laws of Physics, better study and investigate to figure it out.
TauntYouA2ndTime 1 year ago
@TrustinJC . "It strikes me as a most bizarre irony when christians try to discredit atheists by accusing atheists of doing the same things as christians."
It looks like you got as far as 3:14 in the video. Now try watching the rest, see what you think then.
Not1delusion 11 months ago 18
@TrustinJC That's because you can't provide any evidence that your "signs, wonders and miracles" are divine in nature.
FortunexenutroF 11 months ago
@TrustinJC Submit evidence please.
VvDOPAMEANvV 11 months ago
@TrustinJC LOL no. Someone healing from cancer is not a miracle. While unlikely, it is biologically possible. A miracle does not have ANY scientific explanations. So until you find me an amputee who regrew a limb overnight, it's not a miracle. Or until the sun stops in the sky for a few hours with no discernible movement (and we all don't fly off at 24,000 kph). Until then, no miracles.
Juxtaroberto 11 months ago
@TrustinJC Signs? You mean like the inage of Jesus Christ miraculously appearing on my taost?
xcellken1 11 months ago
@xcellken1 What's the point in answering when some atheist will only give the comment so many thumbs down that it will be hidden, just like my previous comment?
TrustinJC 11 months ago
@TrustinJC Why don't you make a video and post it on your channel, then it will never be hidden?
xcellken1 11 months ago
@TrustinJC People don't like being called dogmatic? This is news to you?
Joelsef2898 11 months ago
@TrustinJC Nothing that has ever actually happened, has ever broken any law of physics.
ModestNeophyte 11 months ago
@TrustinJC Nothing that has ever actually happened, has ever broken any law of physics. Even your "miracles." (If they actually happened...)
ModestNeophyte 11 months ago
@TrustinJC "You obviously do not know many atheists. For most atheists have proven themselfs to be equally, or more dogmatic."
So you've met most atheists. Quite a feat. So, besides being incredibly dogmatic, what other traits did they share?
Skindoggiedog 10 months ago
@TrustinJC Since when does an atheist believe that the laws of physics may be broken? The only time we observe a supposed law of the universe being broken is when we observe something that we have yet to have learned about.
The same was said about quantum tunneling, the movement of an electron through a physical barrier that had previously been thought impossible. Did God really put time and effort into moving an electron or was it simply something that would later be studied? Obvious.
hildegain 8 months ago 2
Great video. Interesting quote from WLC, haven't seen that one before but it clearly shows how paltry and hypocritical most of his arguments are.
Subbed.
Vire70 1 year ago
Excellent video with great content and understanding for both sides.
ps
WLC is the `IF `man.The next time you see him in debate just start to count the times he says IF,its unbearable.
naybobdenod 1 year ago
Classic projection.
bboykumo 1 year ago
I 100% unwaveringly BELIEVE a bunch of bronze age goat herders tried to explain things beyond their comprehension using the best deductive methods of the time: guessing and just making shit up.
I bring forth the Bible as proof for my belief.
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
The worst aspect of the Christian apologist "reasoning" is that it relies on the object person is TOLD what is, and not learn, discover, or reason out what is.
Being told what is true is tyrannical at it's base. At the risk of losing the argument by Godwin's law, forcing ideas to be accepted as true without the individual not learning it for themselves, discovering it by leading them through an experiment or process, is what Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Torquemada, and all great tyrants do.
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
I saw my imaginary friend! I don't care who believes me or not, I saw him! Even if there is evidence to the contrary, I don't care! I know what I saw!
Sounds a lot like schizophrenia to me...
MunkyDrag0n 1 year ago
@MunkyDrag0n That reminds me an episode of the simpson in which Marge was put into an assylum because she talked to her friend who is invisible, knows it all and is everywhere.
sesaruoosama 1 year ago
Problem is, religious people have plenty of what they call "evidence". I don't really know how to counter their arguments, they accuse ME of refusing their evidence.
- Convertions: fulltime sinners who received "enlightenment" and got into believing;
- Miracles: people on a wheelchair who get up and walk again after they've visited a sanctuary;
- Exorcisms: Priests driving the devil out of "possessed" people who scream "I'm a devil named Belzebub, darn you priest!"
BrightSoul80 1 year ago
@BrightSoul80 hi,Evidence?......I can explain that for you...it's all deception and circus tricks
1=IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEAD,THEY WANTED TO BELIEVE TO SUIT THEIR OWN GREED OR NEEDS
2=THEY WALK,BECAUSE THEY CAN ALREADY....I WANT TO SEE A LIMB GROW BACK OR BE REPLACED,NOW THAT WOULD BE A MIRICLE
3=POSSESSION, ITS ONLY HOLLYWOOD OR MOVIES,OR ONLY ON T.V.,DONT YOU THINK THE PEOPLE FROM THAT SUPPOSSED EXORCIST TRUE STORY MOVIE WOULD BE ON T.V. OR SPOTLIGHT FOR THEIR SOLID PROOF OF IT BEING REAL?B.S!
chucka59 1 year ago
@BrightSoul80
Yes, and famous atheists commonly have deathbed conversions. /barf
It's just propaganda. I've never seen a single shred of evidence for any miracle, or exorcism, just more meaningless claims from obscure people. NDE's are the same thing. Every single piece of evidence christians try to put forth always inevitably fails, utterly.
The reason we refuse their evidence is because it is not VALID. It is literally NOT evidence. Personal testimony is worthless for a claim of this nature.
Vire70 1 year ago
@BrightSoul80
Yes, and famous atheists commonly have deathbed conversions. \barf
It's just propaganda. I've never seen a single shred of evidence for any miracle, or exorcism, just more meaningless claims from obscure people. NDE's are the same thing. Every single piece of evidence christians try to put forth always inevitably fails, utterly.
The reason we refuse their evidence is because it is not VALID. It is literally NOT evidence. Personal testimony is worthless for a claim of this nature.
Vire70 1 year ago
Well said, sir.
eequalsfb 1 year ago
Perfectly said Not1delusion ★★★★★
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Katalyzt 1 year ago
WLC, by his own words, demonstrates the inherent dishonesty present when the religious enter into "debate" or say they want rational discussion on the subject of their religion. There can be no rational discussion when facts are, by premeditation, going to be disregarded by one of the parties in the discussion.
th30r3m 1 year ago 15
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TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago 5
@TheHomelessCripple More like 2500 years, but otherwise yes.
Sgrunterundt 1 year ago
The reason I know the FSM is real because I like spagetti . . .
UberLogic 1 year ago 2
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UberLogic 1 year ago
Faith, god are useless concepts used only to deny evidence and do great harm to humanity without any reason.
tubetib 1 year ago 2
The thing is they can do it but not atheist. Just look around youtube, creatinists channels commonly screen comments, blocked disagreeing comments and hit then block.
mykegoh 1 year ago
I...WANT to believe.
;)
SinnFein4ever 1 year ago
Very nicely produced video!
amazingbollweevil 1 year ago
@7:18 you say "Christians never show any evidence at all". This seems dishonest at best. You certainly can not say that Christians don't show any evidence, even if that "evidence" is bad science or nonsense or just fails to prove their theology. Overall great video but these sorts of rash generalizations detract from your argument and your credibility.
brazentongue 1 year ago
@brazentongue - He is correct, though. Dogmatists do not show evidence. Oh, they show "evidence," but it's not empirical, peer-reviewed, experimentally verifiable evidence, so it's not evidence.
LeksServices 1 year ago