this guy is fucking scum, i hope this loving christian "man" is rotting in hell, i dont believe in hell but people like him make me hope there is a hell. he killed an innocent girl in cold blood because she disagreed with him.
It is funny because many of us became atheists after actually reading the bible and realized that god was a lunatic and started looking for answers elsewhere, many of us probably started in our high school science classes. However the bit about him being retarded and all that I agree with especially when you consider this dude murdered a girl then killed himself.
Atheism is not the unbelief of God. atheism means they have no proof there really is a God. Atheism also means faith, belief and confidence is no where near any proof of yhe existence of God. Atheism is always open to the possibility that proof of God may exist; however their has not been one true absolutely honest proof of God in all of History.
did know Asia personally. We grew up in the same area, went to the same school, and both participated in the Ecorse marching band. She was indeed a ver sweet humble and just all around beautiful person. Her her father and 2 sisters lived on 15th street. Her family didnt have money but they were very close and very respectful of one everyone even when people werent to them. Point being. She was taken away for no reason at all. She was classy and respectful and sweet. R.I.P Asia
Hard to follow his logic.. "I'm F**Kin Insane... They are Insane!"... m'okey. I wish there was indeed a hell for such fat ass monsters as yourself Tony.
This guy is fucking dumb, ignorant, retarted prick and deserved his final destiny. not in hell, cause i dont believe that shit but rotting in a fucking box with no god damn remorse. fuck him
While I shed no tears for that fuckwit tony we should remember he took some poor girl with her whole life with him and it wasnt becouse he was religious-it was becouse he was an asshole.
Tony might seem to simply be insane (he certainly had his issues), but unfortunately Christianity promotes this kind of self-debasement. I can't count the number of songs, sermons, and studies I remember from church which reinforced the idea that humans are inherently sinful and encouraged us to meditate on our own worthlessness before god. It's just pathetic when a pastor comes out and says "I'm the worst sinner of them all!" For real? Do you really think you're as bad as a murder or a rapist?
Tony's family looks like they never talked to him when he was alive.Deep down he knew he had to be euthanized. He killed the girl so he wouldn't have a choice.
Why do you think atheists haven't read the bible. Many have and thats why they're atheists. A recent study found that atheists are more knowledgable about religion than religious people.
People need to understand that everyone who comes in the name of Jesus are not all Christians. But it's so much easier to judge and lump us all together. This guy was dealing with some demons CLEARLY. A disturb man and that is all. It wasnt because of his race or his "claim" of believing in Jesus but it was himself who made terrible decisions that ended two lives. If only someone was there to help him instead of judging and pointing the finger.Maybe Asia would still be alive and he would have
Total piece of less than worthless shit is what you made yourself, Tony. Or it was a naturally occurring chemical imbalance in your brain. Something happened that was tragic and Christianity didn't do a bit of good.
they dont give love in return? and just because they dont beleive in god dosent mean that we should hate them. I do beleive in god, but i also do beleive in the sicence on how we where created, dose this make me somthing like an atheist? No, because people can beleive in whatever they want. screw this guy hes just the towns local nut.
well they put crazy tony up there to suggest that crazy tony was dome sort of christian representative but the columbine killer had on a t-shirt boasting about natural selection and how he was going to notch one up for natural selection and the tuscon killer wea pretty boastful of the fact that there was no God and then Hitler and then stalin then Pol pot then the chinese government with the bullet at the back of the head then the koreans with the same then the russian and italian maifa ....
Lol, is this the dumb ass who killed an innocent girl? REALLY. REALLY?! We're insane but yet its majority of Christians who go crazy and kill people when they start hearing voices or try to be hypocritical to others. I applaud this guy, and I hope Luci(fer) tap dances on his ass everyday.
most atheist where infact religious and Christians,we've studied the bible and other religious text alot and more then the average christian, who cant even think of the fact that by reading the bible u can easily tell its bs.
@KingMatthewDaGreat You're a typical atheist. Arrogant and insulting for no reason. "i have read the bible... its the reason why im an atheist" Well that's just a blatant lie and you didn't say it because it's true, you said it because you wanted to be insulting. So, I answer you in kind and you call me an ass, so you're back to the same insulting demeanor you started with but you HYPOCRITICALLY PRETEND that I alone am being the ass.
See why I say all atheists are liars... and hypocrites?
@KingMatthewDaGreat Now, do I trust you to be honest about it? ABSOLUTELY NOT! If I'm right that all atheists are liars and hypocrites, your response is going to be the same insulting crap you started out with!
@911dispatcher i think they shouldn't be allowed to say oh my god then b/c they don't believe in him, and what the hell and what not, if they athiest they shouldn't ne allowed to say anything like they, they're a bunch of bullshitters
@Scorpion4hours just proves that atheists are secretly christians in denial, that's why they are so compelled to learn more and more about our great lord
So why is he any different to any other Killer ? or Terrorist ? he's not ??.
Do you really believe in Tolerance what does you bible teach you about Tolerances??, or are you as selective in the scripture you claim to abide by as you are blinded by what is right and what is wrong?...and yes a lecture in Mortality from a so called Morale-less Atheist, Think you need to read your Bible again your the evil here.
@Paumonsu I'm sorry, but I cant agree with you, even though this individual had and has commited imorallity, that doesn't make it any less of a tragedy, it still signifies a failiure of humanity.
"The atheists are insane" he said! Hihi, try to find atheists in american prisons! There are virtually none there, no serial killers, no stalkers, no...hey! He was actually a stalker and a killer himself! So this is just SO funny! May the innocent lady who was murdered by that idiot rest in peace, by the way. : )
I think one of Toni's best moments "for me at least" is when he shot himself ......Cos that guy was a murdering Christian Fundamentalist that shot an innocent woman with all her life in front of her .
All his Videos and all reference to Toni 4821911 should be removed out of respect for Asia family,,,,,flag this shit as offensive and take a stand get the memory of this twisted fuck off line he don't deserve the airspace.
Yeah because it was a sheer act of Atheism that pulled that trigger , why don't you place the blame where it should be ..at the door of a petty Christian fundamentalist Religious nut that freaked out at the mere thought of someone not wanting to see things his way. Even if she push him too far( and really don;t think that is the case) ...is that your justification for shooting her? .
Why don't you do us all a favor and have some pride and Fuck off.
@IHATEATHEIST2 no she was evil, she taunted him. if she hadn't had taunted him he wouldn't have shot her. therefore she caused the shooting by taunting him. tony is a great, peaceful man, a philanthropist who should be awarded a posthumous nobel prize
@johnny4463435 , Honestly have you heard yourself " she Taunted him and that why he killed her , and you really think that is a justification?..Tony was a peaceful man you state WTF!!! have you actually seen his postings? he was an unhinged Christian fundamentalist fuck up .just like you !!. so basically you are saying she was asking for it ...how fucking very Christian of you , ever wondered why Atheism is winning when Christians come up with shit like that.
@IHATEATHEIST2 yep, tony was a pacifist, you can tell by his videos. he was pushed into a corner and forced to react, poor guy. and as for her asking for it, well i hadn't even said that yet but it seems even you figured it out ;)
Really johnny4463435 ...is that the best you can do ?, you do have a have prize albeit a collective one! , it's the prize for the most De-evolved Humans on the planet ......you actually jumped forward and lead man to research Science and ask questions ...then Religion grew stagnant, now you are Intellectually in reverse...and the first Prize goes to ....Christianity , and the 2nd prize goes to Islam, and the 3rd place is taken by Judaism. Toni was so in reverse he met himself being born.
If you can prove God's existence ...then why would you need faith ?.
If there is a Creator ..then who created the creator ?
Christmas was a pagen ritual adopted by Christianity so that they can pretend everyone was celebrating christ's B day .. when actual fact they were unprepared to move the winter solace to align with Jesus birthday in the bible . so you stole it.
I think my main point was that Christimas is not Christ,s B.Day ....it's very well documented around the world , that it was a winter festival that was already happening ...nothing to do with Christ , you should maybe try reading something other than Christian Propoganda for a more informed statement....P.s Toni was still a murdering fundalmatalist loon.
@johnny4463435 You can subscribe to any holy book you want but in return you have to give up your intellectual capacity. You know this to be true, and I don't want to know which weird rationalization you have made up to hide from this fact. As long as you're happy, right?
@johnny4463435 All right. I'll grant you that. God exists indeed. What's it to you? How do you jump from believing some sort of supernatural manifestation of god exists somewhere in the Universe, to attribute it the Christian faith? Or the Muslim one? Just because people around you believe in that version? Yeah, that's real smart, Einstein...
@x2thay WHY do you mouth off in ignorance? You have an opinion... a stupid one, but it's your right to have a stupid opinion if you want one. Why can' you just enjoy your stupid opinion in silence? Why do you have to insult others and deny them "intellectual capacity" to believe what they want to believe. Is it that you just want someone like me to pipe up and tell you that you're a lying hypocritical bully? You're so twisted, that you MUST insult someone in YOUR ignorance?
@x2thay I quickly glanced at your channel and notice a HUGE LIE! You said you believe in human dignity! What a blatant lie! If you believed in human dignity, you wouldn't insult people who tell you they've had an experience with God that you haven't had and that you shouldn't knock it since you're ignorant. I don't have to ask you if that falls under "human dignity," I KNOW IT DOES. But you don't care. You're a lying hypocrite. You claim you believe in dignity for humans and you mock humans...
@x2thay ... for a RELATIONSHIP of faith that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you had ANY REGARD AT ALL FOR HUMAN DIGNITY YOU WOULD SHUT YOUR FACE AND LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE IGNORANT of their experiences.
This is NOT hard to grasp. EVEN if it were (which IT'S NOT), your DECLARED BELIEF in "human dignity" would COMPEL you to LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE!
@dispatch Buddy, I just cannot find in my heart to have any intellectual respect for anyone who claims to have a 'personal relationship' with some supernatural entity. Same goes for people who claim they have had in their lives divine intervention.
I'm sorry but from that point on, you can bark all you want, but people will laugh at you. I will laugh at you. I DO look down on you, sad little individual. You, genuinely are a disgrace for the human race and we'd all be better off without you.
@x2thay A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man (or in your case, a pervert) with an argument. I give my testimony and you can say what you please but I speak sober words of truth and your lies aside, there are tens of thousands (MINIMUM) who have had similar experiences and if you don't know that it's because YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT! You play the fool and you'll get the fool's reward. Pretending you're smart or wise to play the fool only impresses other fools.
@911dispatcher And by the way, I genuinely think people like you should be ridiculed, laughed at and discredited from any serious conversation about the REAL WORLD.
Sadly, this was another retarded rambling, a lot of atheists have read the bible, a study shows that atheists knows a lot about religion in generall. And yes, if you're a christian you need to a large extent follow the bible, or things get complicated in the lexikon.
@Imhornydadcomeinside This is true, human syntax is a method for communicating explicit concepts, thus words are defined by the concepts they decribe, you dont get to add defining attribute characteristics and then negate them later.
@AntiChrist67 What Christian brainwashing tells people to go around murdering hot women who like dancing? Has it occurred to you that his murder of this girl and his brain washing could have been largely or completely unrelated?
@macnutz Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. In addition to that, a whole spew of verses tell the believer to be a good WITNESS, so that through their actions, people will be inspired to see the glory of God. Swearing pisses ppl off; it doesn't display goodness. Peace.
@publicdrunkeness Another stupid atheist comment. This is a very basic logical fallacy. Joe is religious and commits murder doesn't imply murder is caused by religion. Most religious people, including some f*ked in the head, don't kill ppl. If he was f*ked in the head and he disbelieved in God, we don't know, if, given his temperment, he would have killed somebody. Most likely, he would have IMO.
If it were so simple. It's sad that there are so many others JUST like him. They are all out there and just waiting to explode. A Christian who doesn't get into hate speech or try to deprive others of their rights is fine.. but according to him, he was one of the MANY Xtians who doesn't even follow the religion well. Yet, these people will freak the hell out on you in the name of the god they don't worship regularly and the book they don't even read. More atheists read the bible than Christians.
He's dead yeah and rightly fucking so...how much peace do you think the poor girls family gets when they read the christian comments saying poor tony leave him alone .....it's remembering shit like this that stops it happening again.
I'm barely hearing about her death. Can someone please tell me why he killed her? Did she turn him down, or did he kill her for religious reasons. I'm reading different things on the internet. She was a beautiful girl. Looking at his videos he was a psychotic scary guy.
This content is an insult to Asia's family , He shot and killed a girl for disagreeing with him, and then turned the gun on himself, and this content is very disrespectful to the victims family , can you please remove Tony48219 ( Anthony Powell) content and profile( as he is now dead I don't see the point of this remaining) , as I am sure this is causing a lot of heart ache and upset to victims family..thank you for your time.
@bttrflykiss7701 ...Ok that's a fair point , but where do you draw the line? , I am sure that even though I have offended you with my Name ( what;s in a Name ?) but would you shoot me dead for not agreeing with you ??, it's about how far we let people go...what used to shock us is now the norm ....and when you make a video Normalising the and praising a good mis-understood Christian boy , that got a little lost...then it's wrong. ..in my oppnion.
@IHATEATHEIST2 And that's your opinion. And no I would not harm anyone for disagreeing with me. I guess I don't see what the big deal is with having these videos up. Can't hide the truth.
Yes my spelling of the word Opinion was incorrect, now that you have made your self feel all superior I will address your comment , the bid deal " for me anyway" is that the Christian Population seem to down play the fact that he killed someone for having a different Opinion , He was a Christian Fundamentalist capable of inciting hate to support his believes.....you only have to watch his videos to know how he feels about the godless Atheist.., he is Terrorist end of.
@IHATEATHEIST2 I wasn't making a reference to your misspelling of a word. In fact, I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. I simply just used the same word in my response and happened to spell it right. Chill out. I'm not being mean or trying to attack you.
@bttrflykiss7701 , In that case I apologies with regards the tone.
Tony was a fucking Nut Job and those Creationist need to understand that there are extremists in every Religion ....yes even Christianity., just annoys me they skate over it like it had nothing to do with Christianity ...when it did.
@IHATEATHEIST2 he likely had serious mental health issues that were untreated. What he did had nothing to do with christianity. It might have had something to do with the american medical system and the cost of heath care for some people. Who knows why he was untreated.
May be ...but all the Christian posts seem to be sympathetic to his obvious mental illness , without a word about the poor young girl blew away for being an Atheist ...you need to respect the fact that their are Fundamentalist nut jobs in all religion that are willing to kill and be killed for what they believe in ...(9/11, Orange Men, ...all the same ..they want to change what people believe at the cost of them or themselves dying to prove it ...Obsessed I would say so.
@IHATEATHEIST2 The assumption in 100% of those posts was that what happened to her was deplorable. They were simply voicing prevention. He was obsessed with her, wasn't he? Seems more like classic love infaturation than anything else that his religion. I'm not a Christian. Taoist here and philosophical one. Its not a coincidence that a an attractive female was his target, I'm sure. A religious motivated attack would have gone after a better evangilist for atheism. She danced.
Tony is NOT the spokesperson for those who believe in God. Just like Bush is the spokesperson for all white people and Chris Crocker is not the spokesperson for gay people. PLEASE REALIZE THIS !
Tony is a very unfortunate soul and a terrible example of one who believes in God and the Bible. I mean, he did take his own life in the end of it all and sent himself to the very place he would have avoided if he only took the word more to heart.
All videos with this guy in them need to be taken down. What he did was a real tragedy and it doesn't need to be kept lingering around. Get his face off of YouTube and give the poor girl's family some respect.
@Shyhalu Wake up? About what? There are crazy, unstable people out there? Just what lesson does this teach? Stay off of the interwebs because some psycho may try to kill you for a difference of opinion? What good does this do? There is no value to these videos continuing to be here, so they should be pulled, the poster is no longer alive, why leave them up?
@baadshepherd Sometimes it takes witnessing a psychopath to stop someone from becoming one or some self realization that they act the same way. The videos are a good reminder of what we can easily let ourselves become when we drown ourselves in dogma or ideology. Why leave them up? Well, why leave anything up at all? We learn from the past.
@Shyhalu Tony was deranged. You need to look up the definition of psychopath, they don't care about others, so this wouldn't benefit one. I admit what you say about drowning ourselves in ideology, but this man had mental issues that caused him to gravitate to christianity. He was crazy and going to do something bad to someone eventually, ideology had nothing to do with it except to trigger it. The only lesson to learn from his videos is that there are crazy people out there.
@baadshepherd We learn from our past, we learn from history, we learn from the actions of others. Making those disappear helps no one. I get from this video that he wasnt just an insane christian, that he was a mentally deranged human, and religion played a roll in some of his actions. It also helps us identify others who act similiary, who may even be ourselves. What do you get from censoring it?
@Shyhalu We shouldn't ignore them but all of the things that you are saying can be learned are that religion is bad. Religion, when taken in moderation, is not necessarily a bad thing. Crazy people will do crazy things. The only lesson you are pointing out is fear/hate of religion. A crazy person will not accept reason, so thinking that someone may change their own actions due to this is really just saying that they might shy away from religion. I'm agnostic.
@baadshepherd Well, if we should not ignore them, why ask to censor this? If a crazy person does not accept reason, then all religious people are crazy aren't they as its unreasonable to believe without good evidence? I don't see the problem.
@Shyhalu the problem is that you are bashing religion. Do you understand the math involved at the highest levels of physics, the math scientists are explaining the universe with? Are you just taking other people's word as evidence in your belief? Your statement that religious people are crazy shows your unwillingness to accept that any answer other than your own is right, and you are taking someone else's word as evidence. Sounds vaguely similar to me.....
@Shyhalu We shouldn't ignore but there is a point at which good taste needs to step in. Rehashing old pains does no good. The problem is that your reason for leaving this up, that people can learn from it, is wrong by your own admission.
"If a crazy person does not accept reason, then all religious people are crazy..."
Only non religious can learn from this and what do they learn? Fear religious people, they might snap and think you are a demon and kill you? Awful generalization.
@baadshepherd Good taste is subjective. If this rehashes someones old pains, they can choose not to watch it, rather than censored it. You know what also rehashes old pains? Our dead loved ones, should we just forget about them to or censor all mention of them? Considering we were burning witches not too long ago and suicide bombers blew up the twin towers few years ago, I don't view thinking religious people may snap and kill you on the word of their god one day is a bad generalization.
Look, when the guy's right, he's right. In fact, just listening to him, I think he's being modest.
warwolfii 2 days ago
I'm an Athiest and I became one by READING the fucking Holy Bible, so fuck that statement! That's fucking bullshit!
XEPIKNESSXx 1 week ago
this guy is fucking scum, i hope this loving christian "man" is rotting in hell, i dont believe in hell but people like him make me hope there is a hell. he killed an innocent girl in cold blood because she disagreed with him.
Ututwhynot 1 month ago
It is funny because many of us became atheists after actually reading the bible and realized that god was a lunatic and started looking for answers elsewhere, many of us probably started in our high school science classes. However the bit about him being retarded and all that I agree with especially when you consider this dude murdered a girl then killed himself.
s5b678 2 months ago
This guy is too holy for me.
EGMAG 2 months ago
Atheism is not the unbelief of God. atheism means they have no proof there really is a God. Atheism also means faith, belief and confidence is no where near any proof of yhe existence of God. Atheism is always open to the possibility that proof of God may exist; however their has not been one true absolutely honest proof of God in all of History.
EGMAG 2 months ago
At least he's more rational than VenomFang!!!
gregapage 2 months ago
did know Asia personally. We grew up in the same area, went to the same school, and both participated in the Ecorse marching band. She was indeed a ver sweet humble and just all around beautiful person. Her her father and 2 sisters lived on 15th street. Her family didnt have money but they were very close and very respectful of one everyone even when people werent to them. Point being. She was taken away for no reason at all. She was classy and respectful and sweet. R.I.P Asia
nevermindme313 2 months ago
Piece of shit.
PixelSlayer247 2 months ago
It's scary to think that there are probably other YouTube fanatic lunatics out there like this nut case that haven't taken a life....yet.
DarkHorse0863 3 months ago
Hard to follow his logic.. "I'm F**Kin Insane... They are Insane!"... m'okey. I wish there was indeed a hell for such fat ass monsters as yourself Tony.
boecxyec 3 months ago
It's funny how he gives a crazy ass look at the camera after he accuses atheists of being insane.
ncawadias 4 months ago
This guy is fucking dumb, ignorant, retarted prick and deserved his final destiny. not in hell, cause i dont believe that shit but rotting in a fucking box with no god damn remorse. fuck him
travisz11 4 months ago
While I shed no tears for that fuckwit tony we should remember he took some poor girl with her whole life with him and it wasnt becouse he was religious-it was becouse he was an asshole.
angrydead 4 months ago
@angrydead he was quite obviously both
boecxyec 3 months ago
well this athiest is still alive and stll can think normal.
so who is grazy now ?
your a dead moron.
and i dont care for 1 second.
ImmortalUniverse 4 months ago 3
And now your dead. Check and mate.
thatguywiththeegg 5 months ago 2
he was proof of natural selection
kly45 5 months ago
@kly45 And faith nuts saying there's no evidence of men turning into apes..
boecxyec 3 months ago
"I'm glad you're dead"..the Joker, Batman 1989..and me 3 seconds ago
DaytonaRoadster 5 months ago
Tony might seem to simply be insane (he certainly had his issues), but unfortunately Christianity promotes this kind of self-debasement. I can't count the number of songs, sermons, and studies I remember from church which reinforced the idea that humans are inherently sinful and encouraged us to meditate on our own worthlessness before god. It's just pathetic when a pastor comes out and says "I'm the worst sinner of them all!" For real? Do you really think you're as bad as a murder or a rapist?
chirectomy 5 months ago
Tony's family looks like they never talked to him when he was alive.Deep down he knew he had to be euthanized. He killed the girl so he wouldn't have a choice.
SEAWEEDRAVEN 5 months ago
Reading the Bible is the first step to realizing that it is full of shit.
ncawadias 6 months ago 16
i probably shoudnt find this funny....
adler2adler 6 months ago
How the fuck can someone be an atheist and not know about the damn religions they don't believe in?
"I never read the bible, but I don't believe it!" >>;
YoshiShell 7 months ago
im an atheist and i was a christian, i have a bible and read it daily to prove to people how stupid it is, and the guy in the video is moronic
gphhawkins 8 months ago 2
That sick murdering fuck....
parkert51 8 months ago
Why do you think atheists haven't read the bible. Many have and thats why they're atheists. A recent study found that atheists are more knowledgable about religion than religious people.
estragon9 9 months ago
HA! HA! HA! This guy needs a radio show..you know just for laughs
plowingzero 9 months ago
This is all an Illusion!
AroundTheWaymon 9 months ago
LMAO. God, he was funny. RIP Tony48219.
DiseasedBagel 9 months ago
Been a better person.
crazyjoce 9 months ago
People need to understand that everyone who comes in the name of Jesus are not all Christians. But it's so much easier to judge and lump us all together. This guy was dealing with some demons CLEARLY. A disturb man and that is all. It wasnt because of his race or his "claim" of believing in Jesus but it was himself who made terrible decisions that ended two lives. If only someone was there to help him instead of judging and pointing the finger.Maybe Asia would still be alive and he would have
crazyjoce 9 months ago
what an asshole
enott93 10 months ago
Total piece of less than worthless shit is what you made yourself, Tony. Or it was a naturally occurring chemical imbalance in your brain. Something happened that was tragic and Christianity didn't do a bit of good.
strandwolf 10 months ago
poor bastard
EucharistOfHypnos 10 months ago
His 'point' is complete bunk, as has been confirmed by numerous studies.
Atheists understand religion better than theists, as a general rule. As a general rule, this is also why we're atheists.
spectrumVerX 10 months ago
I'm an atheist and I've read the Bible..
Mikerulez101 10 months ago
Hm, I have read the Bible, the Koran, and many other religious books, And im Atheist, and sure i believe the morals, but nothing more
wyrdboys 11 months ago
Some Christian, he murdered someone
deanosumo 11 months ago 18
what? it deleted the top part of the argument.........
nativeskater1 11 months ago
they dont give love in return? and just because they dont beleive in god dosent mean that we should hate them. I do beleive in god, but i also do beleive in the sicence on how we where created, dose this make me somthing like an atheist? No, because people can beleive in whatever they want. screw this guy hes just the towns local nut.
nativeskater1 11 months ago
Most atheists know more about the bible, and christianity than most christians, and thats a fact.
MrLuluapples 11 months ago
If he's a christian i wouldn't want to get near him lol
Tethloach1 11 months ago
if he's a christian, why would i want to be in heaven?
bigstrife 11 months ago
well they put crazy tony up there to suggest that crazy tony was dome sort of christian representative but the columbine killer had on a t-shirt boasting about natural selection and how he was going to notch one up for natural selection and the tuscon killer wea pretty boastful of the fact that there was no God and then Hitler and then stalin then Pol pot then the chinese government with the bullet at the back of the head then the koreans with the same then the russian and italian maifa ....
whiteliketar 1 year ago
lol
atheists know more about the bible than christians (its documented)
Plausiblesarge 1 year ago
Lol, is this the dumb ass who killed an innocent girl? REALLY. REALLY?! We're insane but yet its majority of Christians who go crazy and kill people when they start hearing voices or try to be hypocritical to others. I applaud this guy, and I hope Luci(fer) tap dances on his ass everyday.
KannibalKiss96 1 year ago
most atheist where infact religious and Christians,we've studied the bible and other religious text alot and more then the average christian, who cant even think of the fact that by reading the bible u can easily tell its bs.
thank God im an atheist,
gphhawkins 1 year ago
OH THAT DUDE IS JUST A JESUS SPAMER THAT LACKS GENERAL KNOLEDGE OF THE WOLLD AND IN REALITY OH WAIT MAYBE ITS THE CRACK DUNO OR BOTH
parixion 1 year ago
i have read the bible... its the reason why im an atheist
KingMatthewDaGreat 1 year ago
@KingMatthewDaGreat No, the reason you're an atheist is because you're a fool. Ps. 14:1, Ps. 53:1, Prov. 10:8, Prov. 17:16, Prov. 18:2, Prov. 28:26
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@911dispatcher woah! if the bible says it, it must be true!
so according to these passages i cant: (replace fool with reasonable persons)
express personal opinion (western civilisation is built on the foundations of this.) or im a fool
i cant have trust in myself, or im a fool
i dont deserve to be educated, because im a fool
oh, and you forgot this lovely gem: Deuteronomy 13:8-9
...asshole
KingMatthewDaGreat 1 year ago
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@KingMatthewDaGreat You're a typical atheist. Arrogant and insulting for no reason. "i have read the bible... its the reason why im an atheist" Well that's just a blatant lie and you didn't say it because it's true, you said it because you wanted to be insulting. So, I answer you in kind and you call me an ass, so you're back to the same insulting demeanor you started with but you HYPOCRITICALLY PRETEND that I alone am being the ass.
See why I say all atheists are liars... and hypocrites?
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@KingMatthewDaGreat Now, do I trust you to be honest about it? ABSOLUTELY NOT! If I'm right that all atheists are liars and hypocrites, your response is going to be the same insulting crap you started out with!
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@911dispatcher i think they shouldn't be allowed to say oh my god then b/c they don't believe in him, and what the hell and what not, if they athiest they shouldn't ne allowed to say anything like they, they're a bunch of bullshitters
Rozinen 1 year ago
@Rozinen ...what?
TheCelticNinja 1 year ago
@Rozinen phrases that include 'god', 'hell' et al ad infinitum are now part of the cultural mainstream, not just the preserve of a believers.
ikkoikki 1 year ago
@ikkoikki oh ok! lol
Rozinen 1 year ago
God i hate that guy.
soldierofdec 1 year ago
New stats have shown... atheists are more knowledgeable about the Bible and Christianity than christians.
Appears to be a sad fact, or do christians just ignore the faults of their own cult?
Scorpion4hours 1 year ago
@Scorpion4hours just proves that atheists are secretly christians in denial, that's why they are so compelled to learn more and more about our great lord
johnny4463435 1 year ago
dis nigga is nigga kuuraaazzeehhy!
rebelsouljaz 1 year ago
So why is he any different to any other Killer ? or Terrorist ? he's not ??.
Do you really believe in Tolerance what does you bible teach you about Tolerances??, or are you as selective in the scripture you claim to abide by as you are blinded by what is right and what is wrong?...and yes a lecture in Mortality from a so called Morale-less Atheist, Think you need to read your Bible again your the evil here.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
Greatest tony48219 moment is when he shot himself
Paumonsu 1 year ago 79
@Paumonsu lol LOWWW!
chivaking 1 year ago
@Paumonsu I'm sorry, but I cant agree with you, even though this individual had and has commited imorallity, that doesn't make it any less of a tragedy, it still signifies a failiure of humanity.
johnnycagetheboss 1 year ago
@Paumonsu Yeah. Only bad thing though is that he took a young innocent student with him:/
LatemNam666 11 months ago
@Paumonsu i agree
lamarimpala 10 months ago
"The atheists are insane" he said! Hihi, try to find atheists in american prisons! There are virtually none there, no serial killers, no stalkers, no...hey! He was actually a stalker and a killer himself! So this is just SO funny! May the innocent lady who was murdered by that idiot rest in peace, by the way. : )
winterstellar 1 year ago
It's funny because the murdering nigger call's atheists insane. Ironically who is the one getting spit roasted by Hitler and the devil?
thatguywiththeegg 1 year ago
@thatguywiththeegg asia mcgowan ;D
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@thatguywiththeegg hitler would never do that to a nigger how dare you
Liekkek 1 year ago
I think one of Toni's best moments "for me at least" is when he shot himself ......Cos that guy was a murdering Christian Fundamentalist that shot an innocent woman with all her life in front of her .
All his Videos and all reference to Toni 4821911 should be removed out of respect for Asia family,,,,,flag this shit as offensive and take a stand get the memory of this twisted fuck off line he don't deserve the airspace.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 he had nothing to lose so you atheists can blame yourselves, you and that evil woman mcgowan pushed him too far lol
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 ,
Yeah because it was a sheer act of Atheism that pulled that trigger , why don't you place the blame where it should be ..at the door of a petty Christian fundamentalist Religious nut that freaked out at the mere thought of someone not wanting to see things his way. Even if she push him too far( and really don;t think that is the case) ...is that your justification for shooting her? .
Why don't you do us all a favor and have some pride and Fuck off.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 no she was evil, she taunted him. if she hadn't had taunted him he wouldn't have shot her. therefore she caused the shooting by taunting him. tony is a great, peaceful man, a philanthropist who should be awarded a posthumous nobel prize
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 , Honestly have you heard yourself " she Taunted him and that why he killed her , and you really think that is a justification?..Tony was a peaceful man you state WTF!!! have you actually seen his postings? he was an unhinged Christian fundamentalist fuck up .just like you !!. so basically you are saying she was asking for it ...how fucking very Christian of you , ever wondered why Atheism is winning when Christians come up with shit like that.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 yep, tony was a pacifist, you can tell by his videos. he was pushed into a corner and forced to react, poor guy. and as for her asking for it, well i hadn't even said that yet but it seems even you figured it out ;)
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435
it's Pity Toni666 was not a Passagun, then he might not have Murdered her ...eh?.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@johnny4463435
Noble Prize my Arse !!!, you have more entitlement to a Noble for being a sheer prick.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 i'll still have a prize unlike you
johnny4463435 1 year ago
Really johnny4463435 ...is that the best you can do ?, you do have a have prize albeit a collective one! , it's the prize for the most De-evolved Humans on the planet ......you actually jumped forward and lead man to research Science and ask questions ...then Religion grew stagnant, now you are Intellectually in reverse...and the first Prize goes to ....Christianity , and the 2nd prize goes to Islam, and the 3rd place is taken by Judaism. Toni was so in reverse he met himself being born.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 lol stop sucking up to us mighty christians, giving us awards and shit. get a hold of yourself
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435
Mighty Christianity ??,
Truth if Jesus did exist and he was black.
If you can prove God's existence ...then why would you need faith ?.
If there is a Creator ..then who created the creator ?
Christmas was a pagen ritual adopted by Christianity so that they can pretend everyone was celebrating christ's B day .. when actual fact they were unprepared to move the winter solace to align with Jesus birthday in the bible . so you stole it.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 haha u are so ignorant you don't even know that christmas is christ's birthday haha
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 .
I think my main point was that Christimas is not Christ,s B.Day ....it's very well documented around the world , that it was a winter festival that was already happening ...nothing to do with Christ , you should maybe try reading something other than Christian Propoganda for a more informed statement....P.s Toni was still a murdering fundalmatalist loon.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 no i'll stick to my bible, it tells me all the knowledge i and everyone else needs to know
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 You can subscribe to any holy book you want but in return you have to give up your intellectual capacity. You know this to be true, and I don't want to know which weird rationalization you have made up to hide from this fact. As long as you're happy, right?
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay the only thing you give up is evil
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 The metaphysical claims of religion are untrue and we'd be better off without it. Do you know the word 'fact'? My statement is a fact.
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay God exists. Fact.
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 All right. I'll grant you that. God exists indeed. What's it to you? How do you jump from believing some sort of supernatural manifestation of god exists somewhere in the Universe, to attribute it the Christian faith? Or the Muslim one? Just because people around you believe in that version? Yeah, that's real smart, Einstein...
*roll eyes*
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay sarcasm, the last resort of a sad, defeated man ;)
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 Notice how you avoided my former question? And then I'm the defeated one lol...
You can't even defend your faith. I hope that tells you something, mere pawn.
;)
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay no, i confronted it and defeated it, that's what us brave christians do, not like you cowardly atheists
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@johnny4463435 Oh! Right! Atheists are cowards and christians are brave now!! That certainly settles it!
And you wonder why you people constantly get looked down upon...
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay You just owned him really, really, bad and you need to have the police called on you to prevent further ownage lol.
surshot56 1 year ago
@surshot56 nope, he failed ;)
johnny4463435 1 year ago
@x2thay WHY do you mouth off in ignorance? You have an opinion... a stupid one, but it's your right to have a stupid opinion if you want one. Why can' you just enjoy your stupid opinion in silence? Why do you have to insult others and deny them "intellectual capacity" to believe what they want to believe. Is it that you just want someone like me to pipe up and tell you that you're a lying hypocritical bully? You're so twisted, that you MUST insult someone in YOUR ignorance?
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@x2thay I quickly glanced at your channel and notice a HUGE LIE! You said you believe in human dignity! What a blatant lie! If you believed in human dignity, you wouldn't insult people who tell you they've had an experience with God that you haven't had and that you shouldn't knock it since you're ignorant. I don't have to ask you if that falls under "human dignity," I KNOW IT DOES. But you don't care. You're a lying hypocrite. You claim you believe in dignity for humans and you mock humans...
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@x2thay ... for a RELATIONSHIP of faith that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you had ANY REGARD AT ALL FOR HUMAN DIGNITY YOU WOULD SHUT YOUR FACE AND LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE IGNORANT of their experiences.
This is NOT hard to grasp. EVEN if it were (which IT'S NOT), your DECLARED BELIEF in "human dignity" would COMPEL you to LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE!
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@dispatch Buddy, I just cannot find in my heart to have any intellectual respect for anyone who claims to have a 'personal relationship' with some supernatural entity. Same goes for people who claim they have had in their lives divine intervention.
I'm sorry but from that point on, you can bark all you want, but people will laugh at you. I will laugh at you. I DO look down on you, sad little individual. You, genuinely are a disgrace for the human race and we'd all be better off without you.
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man (or in your case, a pervert) with an argument. I give my testimony and you can say what you please but I speak sober words of truth and your lies aside, there are tens of thousands (MINIMUM) who have had similar experiences and if you don't know that it's because YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW IT! You play the fool and you'll get the fool's reward. Pretending you're smart or wise to play the fool only impresses other fools.
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@911dispatcher And by the way, I genuinely think people like you should be ridiculed, laughed at and discredited from any serious conversation about the REAL WORLD.
Take the hint, schizo!
*roll eyes*
x2thay 1 year ago
@x2thay It wasn't a hint, was it. I testify to the truth because God's been good to me. You despise Him because your deeds are evil. John 3:19
911dispatcher 1 year ago
@911dispatcher Hu-huh. Just keep telling yourself that, schizo. MyAss 2:69
x2thay 1 year ago
Fucking idiot
rainerfilm 1 year ago
Damm youtube ! have some respect for the Asis's family and take this video down !!
luv4myboyzz 1 year ago
Sadly, this was another retarded rambling, a lot of atheists have read the bible, a study shows that atheists knows a lot about religion in generall. And yes, if you're a christian you need to a large extent follow the bible, or things get complicated in the lexikon.
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago 23
@Imhornydadcomeinside This is true, human syntax is a method for communicating explicit concepts, thus words are defined by the concepts they decribe, you dont get to add defining attribute characteristics and then negate them later.
johnnycagetheboss 1 year ago
its simple, guys: he didnt murder because he was christian, he was christian because he was an idiot. you can all stop arguing now. youre welcome.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Lol!
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo i agree lol...
stress4rmbk 1 year ago
@night2k00
Dude please take this down. It is now clear the guy was severely mentally ill which led to his recent murder-suicide.
All that keeping this up will acheive is ridicule and misunderstanding.
So yeah, please in good faith take it down...
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
what a F*cking moron...
GMunny5 1 year ago
@AntiChrist67 What Christian brainwashing tells people to go around murdering hot women who like dancing? Has it occurred to you that his murder of this girl and his brain washing could have been largely or completely unrelated?
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
@macnutz Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. In addition to that, a whole spew of verses tell the believer to be a good WITNESS, so that through their actions, people will be inspired to see the glory of God. Swearing pisses ppl off; it doesn't display goodness. Peace.
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
@publicdrunkeness Another stupid atheist comment. This is a very basic logical fallacy. Joe is religious and commits murder doesn't imply murder is caused by religion. Most religious people, including some f*ked in the head, don't kill ppl. If he was f*ked in the head and he disbelieved in God, we don't know, if, given his temperment, he would have killed somebody. Most likely, he would have IMO.
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
@mitja545 thanks for offering a rare case of iNTELLIGENT atheist commentary here. ;).
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
Geerup is another well supported nut Job .....until he blows someone away then I guess he's just mentally ill.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
That 's the war between black men and black women see nobody wins.
sirstrong1st 1 year ago
@sirstrong1st
No it's not it's the war between Christianity and Atheism....
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
send us a sign if you in heaven, but dont bother sending one if you in hell
desconocidos27 1 year ago
If it were so simple. It's sad that there are so many others JUST like him. They are all out there and just waiting to explode. A Christian who doesn't get into hate speech or try to deprive others of their rights is fine.. but according to him, he was one of the MANY Xtians who doesn't even follow the religion well. Yet, these people will freak the hell out on you in the name of the god they don't worship regularly and the book they don't even read. More atheists read the bible than Christians.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori
You have that right , Hitchens knows the bible front to back .
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
sounds like you got trolled
WilkoPhilip 1 year ago
Guys...hes dead.... leave him alone..
Domodeath 1 year ago
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@Domodeath "Guys...hes dead.... leave him alone.."
Killed himself, after taking the life of someone else. He was a dick.
lracuda76 1 year ago
@Domodeath you think he deserves respect because he is dead? what if he had killed your mother? "leave him alone"?
desconocidos27 1 year ago
@desconocidos27 My mother is dead, and I leave and ask others to leave the person who killed her alone, and to love and pray for him...
Domodeath 1 year ago
@Domodeath whats the prayer going to help? damage done?
desconocidos27 1 year ago
@Domodeath your mother? she had a kid? she wasn;t very old. I'm confused. Anyway, sorry if what you claim is true.
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
@Domodeath
He's dead yeah and rightly fucking so...how much peace do you think the poor girls family gets when they read the christian comments saying poor tony leave him alone .....it's remembering shit like this that stops it happening again.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
I'm barely hearing about her death. Can someone please tell me why he killed her? Did she turn him down, or did he kill her for religious reasons. I'm reading different things on the internet. She was a beautiful girl. Looking at his videos he was a psychotic scary guy.
chrissy200384 1 year ago
@chrissy200384 he killed her because of rejection
TheJackson4eva 1 year ago
@TheJackson4eva
Thought so. RIP ASIA.
chrissy200384 1 year ago
This content is an insult to Asia's family , He shot and killed a girl for disagreeing with him, and then turned the gun on himself, and this content is very disrespectful to the victims family , can you please remove Tony48219 ( Anthony Powell) content and profile( as he is now dead I don't see the point of this remaining) , as I am sure this is causing a lot of heart ache and upset to victims family..thank you for your time.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 Your screen name is an insult to me. People don't have the inherent right to not be offended.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 ...Ok that's a fair point , but where do you draw the line? , I am sure that even though I have offended you with my Name ( what;s in a Name ?) but would you shoot me dead for not agreeing with you ??, it's about how far we let people go...what used to shock us is now the norm ....and when you make a video Normalising the and praising a good mis-understood Christian boy , that got a little lost...then it's wrong. ..in my oppnion.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 And that's your opinion. And no I would not harm anyone for disagreeing with me. I guess I don't see what the big deal is with having these videos up. Can't hide the truth.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 ,
Yes my spelling of the word Opinion was incorrect, now that you have made your self feel all superior I will address your comment , the bid deal " for me anyway" is that the Christian Population seem to down play the fact that he killed someone for having a different Opinion , He was a Christian Fundamentalist capable of inciting hate to support his believes.....you only have to watch his videos to know how he feels about the godless Atheist.., he is Terrorist end of.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
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bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 I wasn't making a reference to your misspelling of a word. In fact, I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. I simply just used the same word in my response and happened to spell it right. Chill out. I'm not being mean or trying to attack you.
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
@bttrflykiss7701 , In that case I apologies with regards the tone.
Tony was a fucking Nut Job and those Creationist need to understand that there are extremists in every Religion ....yes even Christianity., just annoys me they skate over it like it had nothing to do with Christianity ...when it did.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 he likely had serious mental health issues that were untreated. What he did had nothing to do with christianity. It might have had something to do with the american medical system and the cost of heath care for some people. Who knows why he was untreated.
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
@truevoiceofsanity
May be ...but all the Christian posts seem to be sympathetic to his obvious mental illness , without a word about the poor young girl blew away for being an Atheist ...you need to respect the fact that their are Fundamentalist nut jobs in all religion that are willing to kill and be killed for what they believe in ...(9/11, Orange Men, ...all the same ..they want to change what people believe at the cost of them or themselves dying to prove it ...Obsessed I would say so.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
@IHATEATHEIST2 The assumption in 100% of those posts was that what happened to her was deplorable. They were simply voicing prevention. He was obsessed with her, wasn't he? Seems more like classic love infaturation than anything else that his religion. I'm not a Christian. Taoist here and philosophical one. Its not a coincidence that a an attractive female was his target, I'm sure. A religious motivated attack would have gone after a better evangilist for atheism. She danced.
truevoiceofsanity 1 year ago
though shalt not kill ..., what a dead moron.
IHATEATHEIST2 1 year ago
Exactly, if there actually was such a thing as hell...this bitch would have first class tickets.
virginmaryspimp 1 year ago
If belief makes its' own reality...
BURN IN HELL TONY!
Godshoulddie 1 year ago
Tony is NOT the spokesperson for those who believe in God. Just like Bush is the spokesperson for all white people and Chris Crocker is not the spokesperson for gay people. PLEASE REALIZE THIS !
Tony is a very unfortunate soul and a terrible example of one who believes in God and the Bible. I mean, he did take his own life in the end of it all and sent himself to the very place he would have avoided if he only took the word more to heart.
nycolea13 1 year ago
@nycolea13 Took the word more to heart? I think he needed to take his ass to a physchiatrist's office... not read the bible any more. lol
bttrflykiss7701 1 year ago
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what a fuckin scumbag glad hes dead and rotting
skaterobban 1 year ago
all i can do is smh
prissygurl08 1 year ago
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glad hes dead he was a waste of a life
19spain93 1 year ago
good thing he's out of the fucking gene pool...
mlyvee20 1 year ago
lol hes funny
144mtl441 1 year ago
Hehehehehhee.
PickelhauptOfWayne 1 year ago
Good riddance.
Blake4014 1 year ago
Damn niggers are retatrted.
Humberto4790 1 year ago
I just found out that this hater Christian has murdered a young lady and then killed himself. RIP crazy bastard.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 year ago
tony owned that asia mcgowan heathen and got away with it via suicide, n1 tony u won gg
johnny4463435 1 year ago
All videos with this guy in them need to be taken down. What he did was a real tragedy and it doesn't need to be kept lingering around. Get his face off of YouTube and give the poor girl's family some respect.
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@baadshepherd Keep his face on youtube, maybe some people will wake up.
Shyhalu 1 year ago
@Shyhalu Wake up? About what? There are crazy, unstable people out there? Just what lesson does this teach? Stay off of the interwebs because some psycho may try to kill you for a difference of opinion? What good does this do? There is no value to these videos continuing to be here, so they should be pulled, the poster is no longer alive, why leave them up?
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@baadshepherd Sometimes it takes witnessing a psychopath to stop someone from becoming one or some self realization that they act the same way. The videos are a good reminder of what we can easily let ourselves become when we drown ourselves in dogma or ideology. Why leave them up? Well, why leave anything up at all? We learn from the past.
Shyhalu 1 year ago
@Shyhalu Tony was deranged. You need to look up the definition of psychopath, they don't care about others, so this wouldn't benefit one. I admit what you say about drowning ourselves in ideology, but this man had mental issues that caused him to gravitate to christianity. He was crazy and going to do something bad to someone eventually, ideology had nothing to do with it except to trigger it. The only lesson to learn from his videos is that there are crazy people out there.
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@baadshepherd We learn from our past, we learn from history, we learn from the actions of others. Making those disappear helps no one. I get from this video that he wasnt just an insane christian, that he was a mentally deranged human, and religion played a roll in some of his actions. It also helps us identify others who act similiary, who may even be ourselves. What do you get from censoring it?
Shyhalu 1 year ago
@baadshepherd Should we also ignore and censor the religious people who murder abortion doctors while hypocritically claiming they are pro life?
Shyhalu 1 year ago
@Shyhalu We shouldn't ignore them but all of the things that you are saying can be learned are that religion is bad. Religion, when taken in moderation, is not necessarily a bad thing. Crazy people will do crazy things. The only lesson you are pointing out is fear/hate of religion. A crazy person will not accept reason, so thinking that someone may change their own actions due to this is really just saying that they might shy away from religion. I'm agnostic.
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@baadshepherd Well, if we should not ignore them, why ask to censor this? If a crazy person does not accept reason, then all religious people are crazy aren't they as its unreasonable to believe without good evidence? I don't see the problem.
Shyhalu 1 year ago
@Shyhalu the problem is that you are bashing religion. Do you understand the math involved at the highest levels of physics, the math scientists are explaining the universe with? Are you just taking other people's word as evidence in your belief? Your statement that religious people are crazy shows your unwillingness to accept that any answer other than your own is right, and you are taking someone else's word as evidence. Sounds vaguely similar to me.....
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@Shyhalu We shouldn't ignore but there is a point at which good taste needs to step in. Rehashing old pains does no good. The problem is that your reason for leaving this up, that people can learn from it, is wrong by your own admission.
"If a crazy person does not accept reason, then all religious people are crazy..."
Only non religious can learn from this and what do they learn? Fear religious people, they might snap and think you are a demon and kill you? Awful generalization.
baadshepherd 1 year ago
@baadshepherd Good taste is subjective. If this rehashes someones old pains, they can choose not to watch it, rather than censored it. You know what also rehashes old pains? Our dead loved ones, should we just forget about them to or censor all mention of them? Considering we were burning witches not too long ago and suicide bombers blew up the twin towers few years ago, I don't view thinking religious people may snap and kill you on the word of their god one day is a bad generalization.
Shyhalu 1 year ago