You have to admit.. Sam didn't inject his opinions much at all. He gave clear references to the earliest interpretations of the Quran by MUSLIM SOURCES. I don't know how much more integrity you can have than what Sam showed here. Sam simply had more facts and fact after fact came rushing at his opponent, and all he could do is mumble and get confused.
isnt the title of the debate "is islam religion of peace"? if the title is "is the bible book of genocide then nadir ahmad argument can be justified. but it is not.
"Islam says: Whatever good there is, exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the holy warriors! There are hundreds of other verses and sayings of muhamMAD urging muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim." -- ayatollah Khomeini
Great debate and a good example of how all debates should be conducted. The Bible clearly says that Jesus said. " I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34). Also he handed Peter a sward and told him to use it. Peter. who managed to cut off his own ear.
bible is most violent holy book on earth .. full of pornography .. rape girl incest brother and sister daughter and father .. mother can eat son .. yes carnivorous .. and pedophile ..isaac married rebecca at 3 yrs old etc etc read ur bible
my question of the day is.. why didnt the muslim guy who is saying islam is peaceful come in the middel to talk...? -_- talk about presentation... sigh
SAMAUN SHOULD GIVE A SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO DEFENT BIBLE SPEAKING OF KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN, HE IS RUNNING FROM QUESTIONS OF NADIR, HE IS NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTION.
ISLAM IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH. THE FALSEHOOD DRUM BEATERS AGAINST ISLAM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FOOL ANY MORE HUMAN BEINGS. ISLAM IS SPREADING IT IS SPREADING FAST.
Obsessive with megalomania - Nadir is down. Praise and glory to the Lord. If you want to see the snake - here he is. You catch him by the tail, he leaves it, and slips away. Does he learn any lessons ? - NO, he will come back to try again to bite you.
@Resi2birkin i never claim that at all...who the fuck know who fathered jesus...it could be some jew or arab in fucking his camel...LOL...what i say is islam is evil and muhammad is the most evil camel cock sucker in the world!..unless u know another asshole that appoints himself as messenger of god and rapes children like pedophile muhammad!....LOL
Sam jus got to the Islam brother skin... Sam jus made him more mad, Islam brother keep pointing at him is like he wanna fight Sam... Islam brother jus show his true color...lol
Did ya'll notice @ 15:17 when Nadir said "Islam is a religion of peace, BUT we are REALLY NOT?". No wonder Muslims say "Christians chose weak opponents to look strong." and they "don't want Nadir to talk for them". I think I watched this before and Nadir goes onto say, "Islam is a religion of peace as long as Jews and Christians pay Jizya" LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS and the truth always come out eventually.
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i think the Christian made a good point about the phases of islam. When it's bad, pretend to be tolerant, and when you've got the upper hand, show the true colors of islam. He not only proved that through historical examples, but also through the koran, a direct quote in the koran..
The guy argueing for the muslim is a poor debator, maybe he wasn't well prepared. He says Jesus "waged terrorism and genocide"!! This is a shocking statement and a total misrepresentation of the character of Jesus Christ. Jesus strickly forbad the use of voilence and the sword, those that use violence in his name disobeyed his commands. "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.."
@3angelsshout1 that is not what he says.he says becouse you beliefe jesus is god,then everything that the bible says,comes from jesus.and the bible says kill babys.so jesus allows killing of babys
@zernouf God says thou shall not kill and who ever will harm any of those small ones, it would be better to kill himself. Jesus came to earth not to kill, but to tell the truth and word how people should live together. But.. muslims are allowed to lie according the quran.
@zernouf In his book Vol. 14, p 85 Ibn Timiyya writes: "Nothing in the law of Muhammad states that the blood of the disbeliever is equal to the blood of the Muslim because faith is necessary for equality. The people of the Covenant (Jews or Christians) do not believe in Muhammad and Islam, thus their blood and the Muslim’s blood cannot be equal. These are distinctive texts which indicate that a Muslim is not to be put to death for (murdering) one of the people of the covenant or an unbeliever.”
@3angelsshout1 he's a poor debate because there is nothing to debate! Sam practially says that the guy is hiding the true face of Islam and that's all his doing! no debate!
@aleksandra718 all you have to look at is the life of muhammad himself. If you can say that muhammad was a bad muslim, than you have a bad religion. If muhammad, the one who founded the religion was evil, than how can you say islam is good?
@aleksandra718 Muslims are evil becoz islam is evil and muhammad the pedophile is evil.....muhammad was pedophile child molester,mass murderer,lunatic,liar,sex maniac,highway robber and asshole....u should know that by now!
@allahlovesmycock3 LOL I give up. Ok, I was exposed to both christianity and islam when I was a kid, result: I do not believe. anyway, in my opinion a world without a god would be a better place.
You could tell that the muslim guy could not handle Sam's arguments, thats why he got so angry and tried to take the debate off topic by trying to debate the Bible.
@projections How can you say He owned anyone but himself as he was mainly talking not about the debate at hand but about the methodology of the bible? The debate was about whether or not "ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE" . He did not in the slightest stay on subject but rather forfeited the debate by NOT answering or defending sucessfully his position of Islam being a religion of peace. NADIR FAIL.
@Coquixo Ignore the Bible, easily the most violent book in history. Which includes teaching you beat up your slaves.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
i remember that the moderateur made it clear not to attakc in personnal level well nadir do so how come the moderator did not intervent not all nadir is very agressif and wants to stop the dabate cause he is not winning the dabate and had no case,never the less yes in the bible the old testament was violent a did bad thing but the coran still in that old path which christian are not any more never the les it prove that religion come from man not god anyway god does not exist
he always point with is finger well if some body knows about body languages this is a violent gesture like some body accusing some one in a gressf way
It's amazing how Nadir keeps saying Shamoun isn't staying on topic, but he's constantly talking about Christianity(and misrepresenting it at that) in a debate titled "Is Islam a Religion of Peace?"
terrorism of biblical Christianity, show one proof of this ludicrus claim, and not some self interprtation, there is none, nadir is hypocrit, he tactc actual condemn his prophet
and you can not, i repeat , you can not put the bible through the lense of the quran, as in the old testament, there is 3 areas that r covered, 1 is God's holy cammands which the quran cannot condemn or remove
2 the human nature of which rebel again God's holy commans of peace and love, and in doing this God condemns man for his actions
...though both these guys are undressing the other's religion historically and theologically. an unbiased audience would be repulsed by both christianity and islam.
A. the byzantines were already at war with ARABS in syria because they were nestorian christians -- long before islam came to the scene. ARABS, as muslims, simply inherited this rivalry.
B. the meccans tried to kill the prophet because he was winning converts from among them... THAT is why he left for medina and THAT is where mecca vs medina begins -- and NOT some tribal raid before the battle of badr.
The Muslim advocate talks about the good fight against Hitler. I saw pictures of the Grand Mufti or Egypt reviewing Nazi Bosnian troops during World War II. Many Arab nations either supported Hitler officially or at least gave tacit approval to the madman. Oh, what a tangled web man weaves in the endeavor to promote a false religion.
Is Islam a religion of peace? Sure, if you play by the rules. Peace? What peace? We only want peace on the terms of God. We're here to serve God, not to run for president. We're servants, not politicians. And this is not a popularity contest. We don't care if you like the terms of our peace offering- nor do we care much what you think about it. Just as Abraham didn't care what anyone else thought when he obeyed God's command to kill his son- imagine if God didn't stop him.
hahahaha Nadir got whooped.. he called Sam out like a gangster "Wuz up Man, Lets do it now!!" hahahaha.. Nadir is a joke, he shuldnt debate ever again..
@villaessaouira When someone ask you to recite a text or poem that means you know that text or poem right? So why did the angel asked Mohamad to recite the qu ran if it had nt been written yet?therefore the angel should have said :Write! to Mohamad Therefore i conclude that Mohamad invented that story with the help of a Ebionite monk who with his heretical doctrine helped Mohamad in the foundation of Islam the arabic version of Talmudic judaism.
how did Sam Loose... I guessed you havent seen the debate with farhan qureshi??? Nadir is a really bad debator, and you guys admit it.. he got wiped out by James White.. Everything Nadir said about the bible is easy to answer..
I guess you haven't seen sam vs sami, you can't judge by one debate. moreover, sam used cheap tactics in this debate to earn him more points so that you'd think he did well, i guess you know what they are unless you want me to tell you. well, if you watch the debate again with an unbiased mind......... well sam is a bad debator in my opinion, he likes to stir things up(emotional debator), I like david wood more(intellectual debator). watch david vs nadir. good debate because sam isn't there
No im not judging Sam nor Sami, im judging this debate.. This debate Sam Shamoun did way better than Nadir... The zatary debate has nothing with this one. I havent seen that debate but I will watch it tomorrow. I saw Zatary and White and I found it more intellectual... Zatary and Keith Thompson, Zatary used the "tactics" you claimed sam used on this one.. But anyways, it is good that we can talk about this issues and not get lynched like in the old days or like in other modern nations.
@aek21gangsta But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"LUKE 19:27 JIHAD JESUS
@aek21gangsta muhammed wasnt an pedophile, please watch this /watch?v=AGFWtrfu6h0 ... And ok its up to you to love jesus more, but Muhammed is the last messanger of allah and jesus is not a lord he is a human, Allah can do everything why couldnt he creat jesus by no father. and in the 7 heavens is not any sex parties you will not reach them so long you are a desbeliver, but the hell is big, i think there is a party of the screameing unbelivers. or mushrekin
@mahmoudnij by no father?! jesus was born from the virgin birth he has no human father he is the son of the living god! there is no sex party as long i am a disbeliever?!?!?! so if i am a believer i will get my virgins, right?!?!
@aek21gangsta he is not the son of god, he is a human , an messanger. you claim that he was crucified and died. he didnt been crucified and accuty if he was god he was die. and there is only one god Allah. None beside of him . he is neither born or have kids. no lords beside of him.
@aek21gangsta And bu virigns i think you mean the 7oryat. and those can only the poeple of the paradise marry. they are not hores your idiot. and god is not a human he is the lord he dont need anything but we need anything, he dont need us but we need him. What an idiot you are and what descipetion you got on the lord and the seven heavens, what ever may the hell be your home in the hereafter so long you are an disbeliver.
@lilletoulouse All was created through him because he was with God, He is gods word. According to the quran, Allah took JEsus above the seventh heaven with Allah. This is one example of the inconsistencies in the quran.
this is one of the primary grievances of muslims around the world -- selective memory of christians. you're implying ALL muslims supported hitler because of a handful of bosnians under the (powerless) mufti of jerusalem... while completely ignoring the millions of south asian muslims who fought for the british in the indian army -- including 4 Victoria cross honorees.
@maulpreylion i didn't say ALL because my family didn't lol im just saying during ww2 and they do deny that the Holocaust happened still today many do
@neoarcadezr jews also supportted hitler and was in hitler army ..they r aiways on both side of coin so they never lose .. check... jews in hitler army ..youtube
Islam is a religion of peace and there is no use to debate it anyways... it's the truth. Why does Israel and the USA murder continuously and the Arabs don't? because the Arabs believe in Allah.
what about christians killing and raping women in my country Bosnia..
what about them shooting my 2year old cusin..
what about christians torturing innocent muslims in Guantanamo Bay ..
what about christians exterminating the whole population of native indians.. plase dont talk about Islam because some of the worst crime was done in the name of christianity... oh yea what was the african slave ships called?? let me tell you, good ship Jesus..
Well im sorry for your family and for the evil deeds that those FALSE christians did to your country,
You see Jesus warned us that there will be false christians doing evil in His name and it doesnt suprise me,because that was prophecized 2000 yrs ago .All of those christians doing evil are not following Jesus ,they are following Satan the Ruler of this World,
Well among muslims there are people who do bad things but there's no need to point the finger at whole Islam is there? as far as Sam Shamoun he speaks for him selfs & he dont no the first thing about history.....
Scholar of religious persecution, and religious freedom, in world history Nietzsche had some words to say about Christianity, he blamed the Church in Spain for being its own worst enemy. Morse scholarly historians have agreed. Consider this: "Of all the great world religions past or present, Christianity has been by far the most intolerant... not my words
The question u should ask your self...is what is evil Islam doing in Christian Bosnia?..the genocide of Indians are documented and in history books...would u Muslims admit the same genocide commited agains the Jews of Khaibar?.will u Muslims admit invading Christian Bosnia?..or murdering 80 million hindus of india?..would u?
to a cow piss drinking hindu....i think you have been drinking too much cow piss, and sucking siva's dick. If muslims kill hindus, why are there so many hindus, and thousands of very old temples. You dirty hindus need to stop worshiping animals and drink piss. use you brain, but hindus have no brain because they are full of piss
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Thats funny, you are trying to show that Islam is not a religion of peace by having a nick like this? Dont you really see how stupid you so called christians who attack islam sound? You are trying your best to attack islam, but you fail and fail over and over again. Islam is just getting bigger and bigger and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Actually quit the opposite, its because of you, that Islam is growing and spreading in every corner of the world.
@muhammadsucksmycock1 i dont know what kind of conflicts is happens in bosnia but you should look at the conflicts between the catoliks and the protestents. and jewish is the poeple of khaibar, and khaibar tried to kill out all the muslims , but the victory was with us al hamdu lelah. and what are you talking about , killing 80 milions of hindus in india , are you crazy.
yes its true that all religions do is cause pain and suffering you shouldn't look at it as a competition but become a atheist and stop the division and hate
When the Christian guy quotes sura 47:35 HE WAS TELLING A LIE. It says: "Therefore, you shall not waver and surrender in pursuit of peace, for you are guaranteed victory, and GOD is with you."
That isn't Christianity though. That was for Israel. Our scripture is the New Testament. Read more my friend. The Old Testament is for Israel and we accept it as scripture because Jesus Christ is a Prophet. CHRISTians, Followers of Jesus Christ and what He taught..
You know what all this proves ? That humans have this naturald tendancy for a " Us against THEM" type of behavior, on may fronts: Politically, socially, culturally, ideologically, sexually, geographically, emotionally, physically and yes, religiously. Do any of you notice this, or does it seem like we do it without noticing it ? Things in naturally compete with each other and sometimes use each other to their advantage. Things in nature naturally form groups. This supports that humans evolved.
Peaceful muslims can not say that they represent the majority of muslims... Or that islam is peaceful. I've read koran, and it's hard to understand why it would be peaceful...
If it is peaceful, that'd mean that muslims neglect the commandments of koran.... And Koran says that muslims who do this, should be killed. HEY, no wonder that they kill each others there...
can u plz site the verse (s)? I would be more than happy to relieve you of this error by explaining the situation. But before I do, I would like to see you back your statement up.
You can tell from the way that Nadir is presenting his stupid questions, that dude is shook. Mr. Shamoun has spooked him. Also, Nadir is deceptive when he argues. This can be seen when he argues against Christians. However, he's arguing about Islam, against someone who is well versed in the Quran who can illustrate this. Nadir is a snake, a pwned snake:)
why does the video 'edit' the words of Shamoun (40 minute mark)...it seems to me that the video only wishes to disregards Shamoun's argument with the proofs he is giving.
It only skips a bit, not a lot...if the user didn't want us to hear Sam amazing arguments then they wouldn't have put the video up, or would have cut Sam's argument altogether.
In Arabic, "Embrace Islam and you shall have peace" is simply a two-word pun: Aslam taslam, which most literally means "Submit, have peace." In fact, perpetual warfare — that is, jihad — has been the true legacy of Muhammad's philosophy since the beginning.
You have to admit.. Sam didn't inject his opinions much at all. He gave clear references to the earliest interpretations of the Quran by MUSLIM SOURCES. I don't know how much more integrity you can have than what Sam showed here. Sam simply had more facts and fact after fact came rushing at his opponent, and all he could do is mumble and get confused.
Jamesishful 1 month ago
isnt the title of the debate "is islam religion of peace"? if the title is "is the bible book of genocide then nadir ahmad argument can be justified. but it is not.
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"Islam says: Whatever good there is, exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the holy warriors! There are hundreds of other verses and sayings of muhamMAD urging muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim." -- ayatollah Khomeini
ThePunkLei 3 months ago
Great debate and a good example of how all debates should be conducted. The Bible clearly says that Jesus said. " I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34). Also he handed Peter a sward and told him to use it. Peter. who managed to cut off his own ear.
polarstar3 4 months ago
I know about the slaughter of the christians in the trenches of fire, where is your proof that the Jews slaughtered christians in Persia?
polarstar3 4 months ago
another victory for sam :D honest and intelligent!!! team sammy lol
alydamarte 5 months ago
there's too much cutting in this clip.. :(
johanizahri 5 months ago
lol theres a lot of skipping in the video
ndntakeover24 7 months ago
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way!"
Text on placard held by muslim demonstrator in London.
vonkleve 8 months ago
bible is most violent holy book on earth .. full of pornography .. rape girl incest brother and sister daughter and father .. mother can eat son .. yes carnivorous .. and pedophile ..isaac married rebecca at 3 yrs old etc etc read ur bible
sicker57 8 months ago
Sam took Nadir to school on this one. Jesus is indeed the risen Lord!
motegn07 9 months ago
why were parts of sam lagged out -__
ghossler 11 months ago
my question of the day is.. why didnt the muslim guy who is saying islam is peaceful come in the middel to talk...? -_- talk about presentation... sigh
ghossler 11 months ago
All of u islam don't relize is Samaun used your scholars to prove the his statements
and after he did all Nadir could say is for every 1 scholar he can produce 100 that say other but did he
I would really hope Nadir choose to stop makin Islam look bad and stop tryin to debate thats the 2nd is aw him loose and it is sad really
chrisandstaci 1 year ago
SAMAUN SHOULD GIVE A SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO DEFENT BIBLE SPEAKING OF KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN, HE IS RUNNING FROM QUESTIONS OF NADIR, HE IS NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTION.
loveallislm 1 year ago
ISLAM IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH. THE FALSEHOOD DRUM BEATERS AGAINST ISLAM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FOOL ANY MORE HUMAN BEINGS. ISLAM IS SPREADING IT IS SPREADING FAST.
loveallislm 1 year ago
nadir loose one and for all
94checky 1 year ago
I refuse to believe in a white man being a lord.
ThePinkLei 1 year ago
What is it with Nadir and trying to change the subject of debates and trying to restart in every single debate he is in ?!?
Romans9Apologetics 1 year ago
Obsessive with megalomania - Nadir is down. Praise and glory to the Lord. If you want to see the snake - here he is. You catch him by the tail, he leaves it, and slips away. Does he learn any lessons ? - NO, he will come back to try again to bite you.
MrEdwardJohn 1 year ago
@Resi2birkin i never claim that at all...who the fuck know who fathered jesus...it could be some jew or arab in fucking his camel...LOL...what i say is islam is evil and muhammad is the most evil camel cock sucker in the world!..unless u know another asshole that appoints himself as messenger of god and rapes children like pedophile muhammad!....LOL
allahlovesmycock3 1 year ago
@Resi2birkin ALLAH IS LORD in cock sucking....LOL
allahlovesmycock3 1 year ago
sam is a joke!
Hamilton111111 1 year ago
Sam jus got to the Islam brother skin... Sam jus made him more mad, Islam brother keep pointing at him is like he wanna fight Sam... Islam brother jus show his true color...lol
prophetofpeacejhn316 1 year ago
the battle belongs to the Lord!!! We are fighting spiritual war!
raydom78 1 year ago
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qwer1234555sd 1 year ago
Did ya'll notice @ 15:17 when Nadir said "Islam is a religion of peace, BUT we are REALLY NOT?". No wonder Muslims say "Christians chose weak opponents to look strong." and they "don't want Nadir to talk for them". I think I watched this before and Nadir goes onto say, "Islam is a religion of peace as long as Jews and Christians pay Jizya" LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS and the truth always come out eventually.
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How2BecomeAChristian 1 year ago
@Coquixo lolol
Limbsy 1 year ago
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RockStudioLive 1 year ago
i think the Christian made a good point about the phases of islam. When it's bad, pretend to be tolerant, and when you've got the upper hand, show the true colors of islam. He not only proved that through historical examples, but also through the koran, a direct quote in the koran..
Takaja316 1 year ago
ohh and "name one islamic country that christians and jews can practise their religion without being persecuted"...muslim owned
3angelsshout1 1 year ago
@3angelsshout1 name one muslim country with a thriving democracy!
qwer1234555sd 1 year ago
The guy argueing for the muslim is a poor debator, maybe he wasn't well prepared. He says Jesus "waged terrorism and genocide"!! This is a shocking statement and a total misrepresentation of the character of Jesus Christ. Jesus strickly forbad the use of voilence and the sword, those that use violence in his name disobeyed his commands. "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.."
3angelsshout1 1 year ago
@3angelsshout1 that is not what he says.he says becouse you beliefe jesus is god,then everything that the bible says,comes from jesus.and the bible says kill babys.so jesus allows killing of babys
zernouf 1 year ago
@zernouf God says thou shall not kill and who ever will harm any of those small ones, it would be better to kill himself. Jesus came to earth not to kill, but to tell the truth and word how people should live together. But.. muslims are allowed to lie according the quran.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@zernouf In his book Vol. 14, p 85 Ibn Timiyya writes: "Nothing in the law of Muhammad states that the blood of the disbeliever is equal to the blood of the Muslim because faith is necessary for equality. The people of the Covenant (Jews or Christians) do not believe in Muhammad and Islam, thus their blood and the Muslim’s blood cannot be equal. These are distinctive texts which indicate that a Muslim is not to be put to death for (murdering) one of the people of the covenant or an unbeliever.”
123dsj123 1 year ago
@3angelsshout1 he's a poor debate because there is nothing to debate! Sam practially says that the guy is hiding the true face of Islam and that's all his doing! no debate!
qwer1234555sd 1 year ago
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And what he gets in return? Yes the Muslims are bad people! but that does not mean that Islam is a bad religion. Is that a proof that Islam is good?
aleksandra718 1 year ago
@aleksandra718 all you have to look at is the life of muhammad himself. If you can say that muhammad was a bad muslim, than you have a bad religion. If muhammad, the one who founded the religion was evil, than how can you say islam is good?
qwer1234555sd 1 year ago
@aleksandra718 Muslims are evil becoz islam is evil and muhammad the pedophile is evil.....muhammad was pedophile child molester,mass murderer,lunatic,liar,sex maniac,highway robber and asshole....u should know that by now!
allahlovesmycock3 1 year ago
@allahlovesmycock3 LOL I give up. Ok, I was exposed to both christianity and islam when I was a kid, result: I do not believe. anyway, in my opinion a world without a god would be a better place.
aleksandra718 11 months ago
@aleksandra718 amen or halleluja to that!:P
ghossler 11 months ago
You could tell that the muslim guy could not handle Sam's arguments, thats why he got so angry and tried to take the debate off topic by trying to debate the Bible.
pimpcc 1 year ago
thank god the lord of the lords and the king of the kings
syryayto 1 year ago
we are never ashamed of islam the religion of god. not like your religion who make fun of his god and his prophet. islam to the end.
711870445 1 year ago
Muslim guy owned the Christian. lol.
projections 1 year ago
@projections How can you say He owned anyone but himself as he was mainly talking not about the debate at hand but about the methodology of the bible? The debate was about whether or not "ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE" . He did not in the slightest stay on subject but rather forfeited the debate by NOT answering or defending sucessfully his position of Islam being a religion of peace. NADIR FAIL.
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@Coquixo Ignore the Bible, easily the most violent book in history. Which includes teaching you beat up your slaves.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
projections 1 year ago
i remember that the moderateur made it clear not to attakc in personnal level well nadir do so how come the moderator did not intervent not all nadir is very agressif and wants to stop the dabate cause he is not winning the dabate and had no case,never the less yes in the bible the old testament was violent a did bad thing but the coran still in that old path which christian are not any more never the les it prove that religion come from man not god anyway god does not exist
mystisme 1 year ago
he always point with is finger well if some body knows about body languages this is a violent gesture like some body accusing some one in a gressf way
mystisme 1 year ago
how many bibles are their
Qu33nZyunGvET718 1 year ago
It's amazing how Nadir keeps saying Shamoun isn't staying on topic, but he's constantly talking about Christianity(and misrepresenting it at that) in a debate titled "Is Islam a Religion of Peace?"
Floatie114 1 year ago
terrorism of biblical Christianity, show one proof of this ludicrus claim, and not some self interprtation, there is none, nadir is hypocrit, he tactc actual condemn his prophet
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
if God order are to wipe out an idolatress nations, will u say no, or do as he commands, this is also in the quran
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
and you can not, i repeat , you can not put the bible through the lense of the quran, as in the old testament, there is 3 areas that r covered, 1 is God's holy cammands which the quran cannot condemn or remove
2 the human nature of which rebel again God's holy commans of peace and love, and in doing this God condemns man for his actions
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
Shamoun is great!
senja71 1 year ago
aside from that
great debate for sam shamoun
...though both these guys are undressing the other's religion historically and theologically. an unbiased audience would be repulsed by both christianity and islam.
maulpreylion 1 year ago
sam has historical facts confused.
A. the byzantines were already at war with ARABS in syria because they were nestorian christians -- long before islam came to the scene. ARABS, as muslims, simply inherited this rivalry.
B. the meccans tried to kill the prophet because he was winning converts from among them... THAT is why he left for medina and THAT is where mecca vs medina begins -- and NOT some tribal raid before the battle of badr.
maulpreylion 1 year ago
The Muslim advocate talks about the good fight against Hitler. I saw pictures of the Grand Mufti or Egypt reviewing Nazi Bosnian troops during World War II. Many Arab nations either supported Hitler officially or at least gave tacit approval to the madman. Oh, what a tangled web man weaves in the endeavor to promote a false religion.
pmoyer50 1 year ago
Is Islam a religion of peace? Sure, if you play by the rules. Peace? What peace? We only want peace on the terms of God. We're here to serve God, not to run for president. We're servants, not politicians. And this is not a popularity contest. We don't care if you like the terms of our peace offering- nor do we care much what you think about it. Just as Abraham didn't care what anyone else thought when he obeyed God's command to kill his son- imagine if God didn't stop him.
Summadat 1 year ago
this guy isnt quoting the quran..... he needs to read the quran not wut other people have written about the prophet or the quran
demigod197 1 year ago
Sam would have won due to his appeal to the people considering they were predominant Christian.
ISMASHYOUBRO 2 years ago
@ISMASHYOUBRO
No, Sam won because he's telling the truth!
senja71 1 year ago
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ISMASHYOUBRO 2 years ago
What the hell happened at the 40 minute mark? I didn't even get to hear Sam's statement.
ISMASHYOUBRO 2 years ago
The video is tampered with definetly. There are lots of cuts.
IslamAyaat 2 years ago
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Sam Shamoun was wiped out as always
anji0san 2 years ago
this MITHRA WORSHIPER(sam hamoun) IS A FAT LIAR!!
villaessaouira 2 years ago
hahahaha Nadir got whooped.. he called Sam out like a gangster "Wuz up Man, Lets do it now!!" hahahaha.. Nadir is a joke, he shuldnt debate ever again..
Jesus is Lord!!
johnpolanco18 2 years ago 2
@villaessaouira When someone ask you to recite a text or poem that means you know that text or poem right? So why did the angel asked Mohamad to recite the qu ran if it had nt been written yet?therefore the angel should have said :Write! to Mohamad Therefore i conclude that Mohamad invented that story with the help of a Ebionite monk who with his heretical doctrine helped Mohamad in the foundation of Islam the arabic version of Talmudic judaism.
SonofJaphet 2 years ago 2
how did Sam Loose... I guessed you havent seen the debate with farhan qureshi??? Nadir is a really bad debator, and you guys admit it.. he got wiped out by James White.. Everything Nadir said about the bible is easy to answer..
johnpolanco18 2 years ago
I guess you haven't seen sam vs sami, you can't judge by one debate. moreover, sam used cheap tactics in this debate to earn him more points so that you'd think he did well, i guess you know what they are unless you want me to tell you. well, if you watch the debate again with an unbiased mind......... well sam is a bad debator in my opinion, he likes to stir things up(emotional debator), I like david wood more(intellectual debator). watch david vs nadir. good debate because sam isn't there
anji0san 2 years ago
No im not judging Sam nor Sami, im judging this debate.. This debate Sam Shamoun did way better than Nadir... The zatary debate has nothing with this one. I havent seen that debate but I will watch it tomorrow. I saw Zatary and White and I found it more intellectual... Zatary and Keith Thompson, Zatary used the "tactics" you claimed sam used on this one.. But anyways, it is good that we can talk about this issues and not get lynched like in the old days or like in other modern nations.
johnpolanco18 2 years ago
JESUS IS LORD!!!
aek21gangsta 2 years ago 10
no, Jesus was a prophet
watch the debate on my channel about Jesus's resurrection.
anji0san 2 years ago
@aek21gangsta TOTALLY... NOT TRUE!!!!!!!
SucksToBeShane 1 year ago
@aek21gangsta hahaahah lord died couldnt save himself ! a human lord ! non logical nonsense
baskuk 1 year ago
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@aek21gangsta But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"LUKE 19:27 JIHAD JESUS
baskuk 1 year ago
@aek21gangsta Jesus is a messanger just like all the others
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@mahmoudnij sorry i prefer jesus more than mohammad! mohammad was a pedophil and the heaven of allah is a big sex party with many virgin women!
aek21gangsta 10 months ago
@aek21gangsta muhammed wasnt an pedophile, please watch this /watch?v=AGFWtrfu6h0 ... And ok its up to you to love jesus more, but Muhammed is the last messanger of allah and jesus is not a lord he is a human, Allah can do everything why couldnt he creat jesus by no father. and in the 7 heavens is not any sex parties you will not reach them so long you are a desbeliver, but the hell is big, i think there is a party of the screameing unbelivers. or mushrekin
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@mahmoudnij by no father?! jesus was born from the virgin birth he has no human father he is the son of the living god! there is no sex party as long i am a disbeliever?!?!?! so if i am a believer i will get my virgins, right?!?!
aek21gangsta 10 months ago
@aek21gangsta he is not the son of god, he is a human , an messanger. you claim that he was crucified and died. he didnt been crucified and accuty if he was god he was die. and there is only one god Allah. None beside of him . he is neither born or have kids. no lords beside of him.
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@aek21gangsta And bu virigns i think you mean the 7oryat. and those can only the poeple of the paradise marry. they are not hores your idiot. and god is not a human he is the lord he dont need anything but we need anything, he dont need us but we need him. What an idiot you are and what descipetion you got on the lord and the seven heavens, what ever may the hell be your home in the hereafter so long you are an disbeliver.
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@mahmoudnij we will see...............god bless you in jesus name
AMEN!!!
aek21gangsta 10 months ago
@aek21gangsta Salam alekom , may allah show you the way of the goodness
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@aek21gangsta DID HE CREATED THE WORD?
lilletoulouse 8 months ago
@lilletoulouse All was created through him because he was with God, He is gods word. According to the quran, Allah took JEsus above the seventh heaven with Allah. This is one example of the inconsistencies in the quran.
aramean4ever 7 months ago
@aramean4ever in yours dreams
lilletoulouse 7 months ago
nadir needs to take his medicine with regularity, or he'll end up with a lynch mob on his tail one day.
florinu123 2 years ago 2
during WW2 muslims supported and wore Hitler's uniform look it up if you don't believe me
neoarcadezr 2 years ago 3
@neoarcadezr
this is one of the primary grievances of muslims around the world -- selective memory of christians. you're implying ALL muslims supported hitler because of a handful of bosnians under the (powerless) mufti of jerusalem... while completely ignoring the millions of south asian muslims who fought for the british in the indian army -- including 4 Victoria cross honorees.
...but if nyone brings up catholics and WW2 ???
maulpreylion 1 year ago
@maulpreylion i didn't say ALL because my family didn't lol im just saying during ww2 and they do deny that the Holocaust happened still today many do
neoarcadezr 1 year ago
@neoarcadezr jews also supportted hitler and was in hitler army ..they r aiways on both side of coin so they never lose .. check... jews in hitler army ..youtube
sicker57 8 months ago
What is the point of comparing two wrongs? They are wrong.
Not all religions can be right, but they can all be wrong.
StopSpamming1 2 years ago
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i love NADIR!
no christians can debate muslim!!
we should burn the bilbe!
villaessaouira 2 years ago
kinda like Uthman, the Third Khalifa when he burnt all those Korans because they were different...
Galatians4v28 2 years ago
burning?.LOL..Muslims are very good in that...ha ha.....
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
Islam is a religion of peace and there is no use to debate it anyways... it's the truth. Why does Israel and the USA murder continuously and the Arabs don't? because the Arabs believe in Allah.
roclan 2 years ago
you will want to pick up a history book occasionally.
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
What about muslims burning churches and killing christians in Africa?
SonofJaphet 2 years ago
what about christians killing and raping women in my country Bosnia..
what about them shooting my 2year old cusin..
what about christians torturing innocent muslims in Guantanamo Bay ..
what about christians exterminating the whole population of native indians.. plase dont talk about Islam because some of the worst crime was done in the name of christianity... oh yea what was the african slave ships called?? let me tell you, good ship Jesus..
peace & read some books
AllahsCreation 2 years ago
Well im sorry for your family and for the evil deeds that those FALSE christians did to your country,
You see Jesus warned us that there will be false christians doing evil in His name and it doesnt suprise me,because that was prophecized 2000 yrs ago .All of those christians doing evil are not following Jesus ,they are following Satan the Ruler of this World,
SonofJaphet 2 years ago
Part 1
Well among muslims there are people who do bad things but there's no need to point the finger at whole Islam is there? as far as Sam Shamoun he speaks for him selfs & he dont no the first thing about history.....
AllahsCreation 2 years ago
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AllahsCreation 2 years ago
Part 2
Scholar of religious persecution, and religious freedom, in world history Nietzsche had some words to say about Christianity, he blamed the Church in Spain for being its own worst enemy. Morse scholarly historians have agreed. Consider this: "Of all the great world religions past or present, Christianity has been by far the most intolerant... not my words
Peace & have a gd day
AllahsCreation 2 years ago
Muslims are evil becoz Islam is evil and Muhammad is evil pedophile...Christians are evil when they don't follow Jesus....see the diference?
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago
false christians, good
so there are false muslims as well
get it ??
hopefully......
All of those muslims doing evil are not following Jesus ,they are following Satan...
get it ??
anji0san 2 years ago 2
The question u should ask your self...is what is evil Islam doing in Christian Bosnia?..the genocide of Indians are documented and in history books...would u Muslims admit the same genocide commited agains the Jews of Khaibar?.will u Muslims admit invading Christian Bosnia?..or murdering 80 million hindus of india?..would u?
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago 7
to a cow piss drinking hindu....i think you have been drinking too much cow piss, and sucking siva's dick. If muslims kill hindus, why are there so many hindus, and thousands of very old temples. You dirty hindus need to stop worshiping animals and drink piss. use you brain, but hindus have no brain because they are full of piss
gobuddyboy 1 year ago
@gobuddyboy tell me what is evil islam doing in hindu india?...did any Hindus raped muhammad the pedophile fat ass?...LOL...i guess so!
allahlovesmycock3 1 year ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Thats funny, you are trying to show that Islam is not a religion of peace by having a nick like this? Dont you really see how stupid you so called christians who attack islam sound? You are trying your best to attack islam, but you fail and fail over and over again. Islam is just getting bigger and bigger and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Actually quit the opposite, its because of you, that Islam is growing and spreading in every corner of the world.
lulzimh 10 months ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 And just to make it clear, search The greatest man in history in youtube, you will be surprised who it is.
lulzimh 10 months ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 i dont know what kind of conflicts is happens in bosnia but you should look at the conflicts between the catoliks and the protestents. and jewish is the poeple of khaibar, and khaibar tried to kill out all the muslims , but the victory was with us al hamdu lelah. and what are you talking about , killing 80 milions of hindus in india , are you crazy.
mahmoudnij 10 months ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 i think israel should admit or perhaps stop what they doing in palastine before talking about jews
TheWizzo22 8 months ago
yes its true that all religions do is cause pain and suffering you shouldn't look at it as a competition but become a atheist and stop the division and hate
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
Those are dumb, but don't forget that christians are burning mosques and killing muslims in Africa. Bad people everywhere m8
roclan 2 years ago
Nadir Ahmed should never ever ever ever do a debate or speak publicly.
saqib09 2 years ago 3
I llike Nadir .
early nazi christians so so true !
villaessaouira 2 years ago
haha...funny and sad in the same time...because it's true
cnlnat 2 years ago
christians can't debat muslims !
sam is not even christian he doesn't realy care about the truth!
only thing he care his wage!!!!!
Sam = MERCENARY
villaessaouira 2 years ago
sam also cares for truth.....remember that...truth,freedom and knowlegde is enemy of evil Islam!
muhammadsucksmycock1 2 years ago 5
Sam had great arguments and evidence.
he definitely won the debate.
philipislam666 2 years ago
Sam Shamoun totally owned Nadir Ahmed. Blew him straight out of the water. His argument was deverstating. Total annihilation.
mrmonkeyisland1 2 years ago 5
nazi christians!
hitler wasn't muslim ! s
musoslini wasn't muslim !
villaessaouira 2 years ago
proof !!!!
read your biblos and the history of christian!!!
villaessaouira 2 years ago
sam is fat liar!
villaessaouira 2 years ago
what a brilliant and convincing argument...:P
cnlnat 2 years ago
only religious unity can bring global harmony
petewrightrecords 2 years ago
Revelation 13
kwazyb 2 years ago
When the Christian guy quotes sura 47:35 HE WAS TELLING A LIE. It says: "Therefore, you shall not waver and surrender in pursuit of peace, for you are guaranteed victory, and GOD is with you."
This verse IS calling for peace!
newtype64 2 years ago
Christiany and Peace:
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)
If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7).
roclan 2 years ago
That isn't Christianity though. That was for Israel. Our scripture is the New Testament. Read more my friend. The Old Testament is for Israel and we accept it as scripture because Jesus Christ is a Prophet. CHRISTians, Followers of Jesus Christ and what He taught..
kwazyb 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
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You know what all this proves ? That humans have this naturald tendancy for a " Us against THEM" type of behavior, on may fronts: Politically, socially, culturally, ideologically, sexually, geographically, emotionally, physically and yes, religiously. Do any of you notice this, or does it seem like we do it without noticing it ? Things in naturally compete with each other and sometimes use each other to their advantage. Things in nature naturally form groups. This supports that humans evolved.
gblueslover2 3 years ago
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gblueslover2 3 years ago
How many days did Allah need to destroy the people of Aad? Surah 54:19 - One day. Surah 41:16 & 69:6,7 - several days
boomya555 3 years ago
A 'day' or 'yawm' could refer to a period in time in Arabic
such usage is found even in English
We studied the tactics used in Napoleon's day. The day of computer science is well upon us.
i am glad i could clear up this misconception.
saladinswarrior 3 years ago
oh yeah, u can clearly tell that the muslim got owned!!!!
Bugsybugs97 3 years ago 3
I'm a muslim and i really proud of being muslim ..
I have a question why sam always escape of answering the 3 questions ?!
sjsj2009 3 years ago
I can tell u only watched the first 3 minitues of when that happened lol!
Yeahdan23 3 years ago
look at 3:10 hes doing the devil sign
hamid954 3 years ago
Peaceful muslims can not say that they represent the majority of muslims... Or that islam is peaceful. I've read koran, and it's hard to understand why it would be peaceful...
If it is peaceful, that'd mean that muslims neglect the commandments of koran.... And Koran says that muslims who do this, should be killed. HEY, no wonder that they kill each others there...
gombie 3 years ago
can u plz site the verse (s)? I would be more than happy to relieve you of this error by explaining the situation. But before I do, I would like to see you back your statement up.
baziliuss 3 years ago
You can tell from the way that Nadir is presenting his stupid questions, that dude is shook. Mr. Shamoun has spooked him. Also, Nadir is deceptive when he argues. This can be seen when he argues against Christians. However, he's arguing about Islam, against someone who is well versed in the Quran who can illustrate this. Nadir is a snake, a pwned snake:)
jarbon5 3 years ago 3
King Hussein who killed 10,000+ Palestinians in Jordan in 1970
or Assad who killed 20,000 Muslim Brotherhood (just like Hamas)in Hama in 1982
or Saddam Hussein who GASSED 100,000 or so Kurds in Iraq
or care for the thousands of Christians killed in Lebanon by Hizbollah or Palis
or the Christians - who they CRUCIFY- killed by Hamas in Gaza
No proof of crucifixions of course...
Sooo, that must make it okay for the Little Satan to murder. Even lies about crucifying
salomonbeno 3 years ago
lmao this is so stupid, why are you skipping parts?
40areasg 3 years ago 4
MuslimByChoice decided to have mercy on Nadir, I guess. Didn't work though:)
jarbon5 3 years ago 5
Nadir got pwnd.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
the video SKIPS over Shamoun's rebuttal...
That is NOT fair...obviously the editor of this video does NOT like to spread Shamoun's arguments.
varoshah 3 years ago 4
Stop being gay.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
How is that being 'gay'???
varoshah 3 years ago
why does the video 'edit' the words of Shamoun (40 minute mark)...it seems to me that the video only wishes to disregards Shamoun's argument with the proofs he is giving.
varoshah 3 years ago 10
It only skips a bit, not a lot...if the user didn't want us to hear Sam amazing arguments then they wouldn't have put the video up, or would have cut Sam's argument altogether.
Juliocyp 3 years ago 4
why skip any arguments though?
40areasg 3 years ago
In Arabic, "Embrace Islam and you shall have peace" is simply a two-word pun: Aslam taslam, which most literally means "Submit, have peace." In fact, perpetual warfare — that is, jihad — has been the true legacy of Muhammad's philosophy since the beginning.
30SecondsTokyo 3 years ago