Who was aggressive here and caused road rage? The only time that I have been a bit aggressive was when I felt that my life was endangered, I'm sure that's the same with every other cyclists and road user.
" i don't think you understand, he's right smack dab in the middle of the road, yes if he kept to the side i can squeeze past. the squeezing past is especially tough with a rather large xterra..." (ninjaseven1) 1 week ago.
I feel that my reading is fine, if I have miss-read that, I can only apologise
Cyclists have as much right to the road as cars, lorries, vans etc do, so they can sit in the road wherever they like. Yes, I agree as a cyclist and car driver that it is easier if cyclists stay to the side, but you should only over take a bike if you allow them as much room as you would a car, and what happening here is just wrong all together, you had the right of way and not the other vehicles
i dont cycle but i am a driver..... i have no need to be anywhere so fast that i cant take the time to let anyone turn or make room or wait to pass..... it amazes me how impatient car drivers and cyclist are.
Wait your fucking turn instead of expecting the drivers to stop for you. They pay insurance and road tax to be on that road, you don't. Don't be such an ignorant bastard!
@BassGoodForTheSoul Being as the drivers are crossing his side of travel, they should wait until the road is clear enough to cross... Would they have done this if it had been a car or bigger? I think not. Some cyclists pay insurance and some motorists don't have to pay tax (tax exemptions apply). Some drivers don't pay either....do they have more right to use the road than a cyclist? Road Fund License (tax) applies to motor vehicles. What is the cyclist being ignorant about?
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well being a motorist, it really is so annoying when cyclists ride in the middle of the road forcing me to drive 30 in a 60.... please stay to the side, and keep out of the road. It's really that simple
@ninjaseven1 Cyclists sometimes take the middle to be noticed by other road users (Ok it didn't work here) and to try and stop others from passing if to narrow and unsafe to do so. Would riding on the left side have helped me here?
@EasySlowRider i do share the road. if i can get into the next lane i do. i'm talking when a cyclist is in the middle of a 2-lane road (as in one lane goes the other direction from the other) and he's in the MIDDLE of the road. then it's the cyclists who's being selfish. especially when the speed limit is 55-60. they need to keep to the right side of the road so that we may pass safely
@ninjaseven1 Are you serious? You want to squeeze, yes squeeze past a cyclist riding in the gutter at 55-60mph. Come on man, think. This is why defensive riding is being done on the roads you talk about. If you can't pass the cyclist DON'T! WAIT until it is safe to do so.
@EasySlowRider i don't think you understand, he's right smack dab in the middle of the road, yes if he kept to the side i can squeeze past. the squeezing past is especially tough with a rather large xterra. what you did here was fine, it's an intersection, the cars should have let you pass, however, if the speed limit is high say 55-60 mph, (100 km/h or so) then the cyclist should stay on the side of the road. this is merely my opinion on the issue because here in CO, this is a problem.
@theverdictlondon and cyclists don't cycle dangerously at times as well? just sayin. both need to ride or drive courteously. each needs to give the other room. how does this make me a dangerous driver? please provide me with the logic behind your claim. Everyone i've encounter with the exception of EasySlowRider has been very disrespectful in their words offering me no explanation, nor have the provided me any reasonable logical arguments to why both parties need to be courteous.
@ninjaseven1 I Agree with the fact that some cyclist are morons, same with car drivers.
But when you passed your driving test, you went through two tests with questions like this a cyclist is60 yards in front of your vehicle, with a turning on your left at 100,
But there is a car coming toward you from the other direction, do you?
A - Wait back to see how the cyclist reacts
B - Over take Quickly
C - Beep your horn to let the cyclist know you are behind him
@theverdictlondon i often choose a, if space opens allowing at least 3-5ft of clearance between the cyclist and my car, then i will pass him for imo, that is a safe distance.
@ninjaseven1 That is fine and i would agree with that Perfectly, If you look at the video we started to watch, you see a car on the right and cars on the left, i would of been 30 yards behind,
As a cyclist i stick to this, if i am at dangerous jump off the cycle, get into a ball and hope for the best,
imagine if you was to close, that's what we are chatting about and it can be anything,
WIND/CARS/Animals/ Even the fact that one of my gears jammed and forced me into a dangerous situation,
@ninjaseven1 When you did your test, a lot of people chose A, But If you think about it, you get people who don't,
I should know like i said, i was run off a main road by a lorry driver who didn't look and was on the phone, I fell off and hit a Sign poll,
I Honestly through i was dead when i came to cause i saw a white light, but just had broken bones and a head injury, and passed out, woke up in a hospital a week later,
No matter how you feel, like i said, Metal vs Bone.. Who wins?
@EasySlowRider Today a cyclist really pissed me off and he knew full well. In a queue of traffic moving away I was accelerating and a cyclist cut in front causing me to brake. Then he sat in the middle of the left hand lane all the way to the next set of lights, having me wait and miss 2 green lights which all the drivers in front had gone through, delaying me by about 4 or 5 minutes. I think some cyclists do this out of spite for car drivers in general.
@DubbyDominate how are my remarks ignorant? i'm simply stating that it is rude for motorists ans cyclists alike to take up the whole road. they both need to give each other space. how is this logically ignorant?
@ninjaseven1 Read your highway code. Regardless of the speed limit, any vulnerable road user (cyclist, motorcyclist etc) MUST be given the same amount of space as a car when overtaking, and therefore it shouldn't matter wether the cyclist is to the side or the middle. The only time a cyclist should be at the side is when there is a designated cycle lane. Just because you can go faster does not give you priority, it's a safety thing.
@PlanCartesien well i am merely stating logical counterarguments to which you obviously cannot argue against. i am simply bringing up points to how one can cycle more courteously. So aside from trying to persuade me to shut up, i merely suggest you provide me with a logical argument of where my flaws are. if your arguments are well thought out i will acknowledge that fact but simply "cut up your license" or "stop bitching" does not provide counterarguments to my logical claims.
@ninjaseven1 There is nothing "logical" about your arguments. There is no "logic" in giving more weight to your having to wait 15 seconds over another human being's life. There is no discourtesy in a cyclist's making sure he doesn't get run off the road. You say cyclists lack courtesy, well I find your statements show a complete disregard for other people's safety. If you cannot see that, then you are either a troll, or maybe you should cut up your license.
@PlanCartesien as i've said before i choose space, and do not pass unless there is at least 3-5 feet of clearance. however it is in my opinion discourteous when a cyclist rides in the middle of the road without any regard for whatever is behind him. there is logic behind my statement. i supposed i could honk my horn, but that just leads to the cyclist being angered when i was merely letting him know that i'm behind him and that i would like to pass. this is a very logical thought process.
@ninjaseven1 Again: there is no "logic" in giving more weight to 15 secs over another person's safety. Honking at a slower vehicle is aggressive and discourteous. Thinking that someone wouldn't be angered by that is not a "logical thought process". The mere fact that you are convinced by your own arguments does not make them any more "logical". It just shows how one-sided your opinions are. As a cyclist and motorist, I don't mind waiting 15 secs or even more in order to pass safely.
@PlanCartesien apparently you do not know what logical thinking is. it's simple really. there is a problem, cyclists and motorists can't get along due to actions from BOTH parties not just one or the other. as i said, i don't mind waiting, however, they teach you in drivers ed to lightly tap your horn so people know you're behind them. at least thats how it is here in CO and that is considered courteous. and btw, who's being the disrespectful one here? it's definitely you
@ninjaseven1 I'm a math teacher. I'm used to people confusing personal conviction with logic and it's quite obvious to everyone here that you're the one who doesn't get it. I should have known you're an American, where "might means right" and where it's OK to blow someone's head off with a gun for stepping on your lawn. My bad for thinking I'd be able to reason with you.
I guess there must be a lot of cycling casualties in Colorado.
@ninjaseven1 Learning to drive in the UK I was taught never to beep at cyclists or pedestrians. I think the reasoning is that if they have no idea you're behind them (and in most cases they'd have to be pretty deaf not to notice) a loud sudden noise is just going to scare the pants off them and not help the situation at all.
@EasySlowRider this is why i ride on the path i do i know its illigal but if a copper tells you off. tell him to write you a suicide note and he will fuck off. i got overtaken by a 45 ton truck going down hill on the left side curb of a A road doing 50+ mph tanking it down hill and the driver nearly killed me by pushing me against the brickwall and i had to hold onto the truck due to the lack of space between me the truck and the brickwall
@ninjaseven1 - riding "in the middle of the road"? Come on - how often does that happen?
And your solution is far from safe or simple - sorry, mate.
Normal safe cycling position - at least 1 metre from the kerb, or in the middle of the left hand lane. Check it out - Department for Transport, IAM, Police training manuals, government's Bikeability training scheme --- and not one of those is a cycling organisation.
well, yes 1m from the curb makes perfect sense. However, in the town that i currently live in, cyclists, in the summer of course, sometimes ride smack dab right in the middle of the road. if they kept 1m from the curb, that's more than enough distance to safely pass
Excuse me - you're only reading the bit you want to read!
The advice is "at least 1 metre from the kerb, OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LEFT HAND LANE". And there's any number of good reasons for taking the middle of the lane - including trying to prevent silly and dangerous overtaking manoeuvres! I don't know what kind of a driver you are - but there are incompetent and seriously dangerous dingbats out there.
@growingvegetable i am saying, it is annoying when there is a two lane road, the speed limit is in the higher range, and the cyclist stays right smack dab in the middle of the road and there is a double yellow line, thus not allowing me to pass him safely. if he was on the side more, then i could pass him and all would be good
@ninjaseven1 1 metre from the curb is about the middle. Don't fucking pass us until its safe and we wouldn't ride like we do. I've been hospitalised twice because of idiots who think they rule the road in their big 4x4, then they can't fucking drive it when they overtake and end up hitting me.
Hence. I ride in the middle. For my own safety. I'm not in a steel bubble. You are.You have a roof, I don't. Don't cry about being held up when your nice and toasty in there!
@squirt244 well, cyclists need to ride courteously as well as in letting us pass. that is why i slow down when i come close to a biker. I'm sorry you've been hospitalized, but maybe on wide roads you should ride a bit more to the side so we can pass safely. just sayin. it's courteous. aggressive riding is not taking into consideration the motorist behind you. so i must blatantly disagree with your claim
@ninjaseven1 The problem is quite a few drivers won't drive as nicely as you do, so when the lane is 3m wide or less, then we pretty much have to ride in the middle of the lane for our own safety. Other things that often cause cyclists to need to be further out from the edge of the road might include:
@ninjaseven1 Share the road, don't be selfish. Lay that cyclist on his side, out to the right. How much space do you need to pass him safely? About that shown in the picture in the highway code in rule 163. Pass in the next lane please.
@ninjaseven1 Well being a cyclist It really is so annoying when motorists drive slowly in the middle of the road in towns forcing me to do 15mph in a 30 zone. Please, stay at home and keep off the road completely, it really is that simple....
@ninjaseven1 lol, that you do not understand the point I'm making is it worth explaining? You complain about cyclists in the middle of the road yet we are traffic, We are legally allowed in the centre of the lane the same as other vehicles. you have to 'overtake' us safely & give way to us as you would other vehicles. That also is legally proper. that we sometimes ride toward the left of the lane is a courtesy from us helping you,.yet you still slow us down in cities & elsewhere HTH
@ynotnilknarf39 yet it is just plane rude for a cyclist to hog the whole road and not stick to the side when there is heavy traffic. they make bike lanes for a reason here in colorado. more specifically in the boulder area. happens all the time.
@ynotnilknarf39 It really is annoying having car's create traffic jams slowing us cyclists down. If you are going into town just don't go in by car and slow us down, it really is that simple....
@mikeco9090 um my point is still valid. i've seen cyclists take up the entire road it's rude no matter what. it's rude for motorists to do the same. learn to be a more courteous cyclist.
@ninjaseven1 motorists *always* take up the whole road, cyclists *sometimes* do, especially when there is debris or a pinch point, have patience, overtake when it is safe , leave a meter - at least.
@ninjaseven1 You do realise. We wouldn't have to ride defensively, if there was nothing to defend ourselves from. Just think about that for a moment ;)
@ninjaseven1 and what percentage of the time, in traffic are you held up by cars rather than bikes? honestly now.. yes, I thought so, cars make up far more traffic than bikes by a massive margin, most of the time, when you overtake a bike he will catch you up further down the road when you get caught up in the *car* traffic. Have a bit of patience, better still, get a bike, ride it and experience the difference - get to work faster , lose the fat too
cyclists should have insurance. bloke crashed into me the other day, easily £200 worth of damage, he said sorry and fucked off. what am i suppost to do? chase after him, knock him down and get his contact details?
@chormeholmes I agree, insurance is a good idea. That is why some cyclists join the CTC as membership gives third party insurance cover. What happened to you was bad man and I don't know what the answer is, wish I did. Maybe membership to groups like the CTC could be encouraged and advertised more, who knows? The main reason that I got a camera was because of a hit and run and hopefully it could be used as a witness if involved in future incidents.
@chormeholmes Insurance would make no difference, it's the same as someone knocking a tv out of your hands, do what you would then, call the police etc etc.
out of curiosity how did the cyclist cause £200 worth of damage and none to speak of to himself?
I'm a cyclist,motorcyclist and car driver myself and there's far too many lycra clad ( soz if your doing the baggies and mountain bike thing Easy) headcam i'm so wronged thing on here brigade . But credit where credit is due the Ka driver has cut it a bit fine, the Zafria driver i'm pretty sure has just broken the law, the Transit driver needs a slap and i personally would have knocked the mirror of the hairdresser in the Megane
@jasemat Why do you think so many cyclists wear cameras now? It's simple - because we're sick and tired of drivers misbehaving and being careless towards us. The evidence is clearly out there, in thousands upon thousands of youtube traffic videos.
EasySlowRider, I apologize for my comments. I'll remove them if you want. I usually don't comment this way, but that troll made it too easy to feed it. :-)
@kievcyclist seriously a troll? haha shows how dumb you are, your an easy target for me fool. oh im so sorry blah blah blah, Shut up and stop trying to butt fuck EasySlowRider in the arse. face the fact your a bitch and need a slap
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MOST people who ride bikes try and own the road, they sometimes get in the way, they feel like there always in the right. Im a driver and most accidents that seem to occur nowadays are because of bikes
@MultiBulletproof123 got to disagree with you. I'm also a driver, cyclist and ex London bus driver and found that most accidents are caused by road users being impatient. Most cyclists don't believe they own the road, they just want the same considerations and respect as other road users. The video showed that the cyclist had right of way and basically shows the attitude shown by some motorist to cyclist. Everyone wants to go from a - b safely, why should cyclist be treated any different?
@MultiBulletproof123 Cyclists get in the way? Don't other road users get in the way then? Or is it that cyclists are an easy target and it can be frustrating for an impatient driver to watch a bike get to some destinations quicker than a motorist.
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@EasySlowRider yes cyclist get in the way, because alot of them dont use there cycle path. yes i agree that impatience is a big thing that causes accidents, but they wouldnt be impatient if there wasnt so many idiotic cyclists around. there just as bad. oh and btw....FUCK YOU!!!! I HATE BUS DRIVERS, ARROGANT SHITS!. but it seems like youve mended your ways being an EX
@MultiBulletproof123 you don't seem to like a lot of other road users. Guessing what you need or would like is your own private road to drive around on. Just wondering what it would be like with no buses or cyclists on the road. How many extra cars do you think that may generate? Then you would have to moan about the as*eholes in either Audi's, BMW's, Merc's etc getting in your way :o)
@MultiBulletproof123 Too many cyclists? Ahahahahaha! Here in London, if all us cyclists who own cars chose to drive to work instead of cycling, you'd have gridlock and a terrible day of driving.
Compare that to just 10% of drivers joining all the current cyclists on their bikes. Traffic would be like August summer holidays, and better for everyone.
@Testedecazzo sounds like your the idiot here mate, i bet you wear them skin tight gay shorts and think hes really cool with hes stupid bike. people likie you obviously havent got a clue.your the type that rides through red lights, and thinks its ok, but when a car cuts you up because your in the way, then ooooh noooo its such a problem. just a tip for you idiot, stay off the road, or...buy a car. simple :)
@MultiBulletproof123 You're, not your. He's, not hes. Haven't, not havent. You're, not your (again). It's, not its. You're, not your (again). It's, not its (again). Etc.
You're 26 and live in the UK? Not only your English is awful, you need to grow up. You also need to work on your logical skills.
And like EasySlowRider said, get your own private road. You'll be happy. Other road users will be even happier.
@kievcyclist YOUR A DICK! lol hows that for english, i honestly dont care about how i spell or write because were talking about cyclist being pricks, which YOUVE just proved my point. like im actually focused on how im spelling makes any difference on what u read?, my goodness. your making no sense at all. and YOUR obviously some sort of retard who cant afford a car and rides a gay push bike because you think it does the world a favor....hang yourself mate. it will make me happy
@MultiBulletproof123 You don't care how you write, and you don't care that you're making it difficult for others to understand you. That's inconsiderate of you (I'm being polite. You, on the other hand, would say prick or dick). Oh and YOU'RE, not YOUR.
FYI, bicycles are asexual. Saying a bike is gay is like saying you have IQ points. It just doesn't apply.
@kievcyclist hahaha saying that your not gay truly means your are, Just stop. your not being "POLITE" YOUR BEING AN ARRGANT FOOL so just stop. your making yourself sound even worse
@kievcyclist oh and btw, stop trying to be clever mate, your pothetic. ive seen your profile too. your exaclty what im talking about. An arrogant shit on the road who believes the world owes him something. get off the dam road. People like you deserve to be hit by a car, it wil teach you to be more down to earth instead of up your own arse.
@MultiBulletproof123 Wrong, the vast majority of the subset of collisions between motor vehicles and cyclists are the fault of the drivers. The reason is obvious and easy to understand - drivers are protected in a metal cage, whilst cyclists are not, and thus have extreme motivation to avoid crashing.
Nice run of negative votes on your comments, and thumbs up for most other peoples. ;)
This video just shows car drives shitting on other car drivers. The cyclist appears to have right of way, yet one car half pulls out so ht ecyclist stops and goes WTF. carried on and causes the same thing with the next car and the next car and the next...If the first dickhead would have just let him go in the first place. like hes supposed to, then it would have saved the cyclist and all the other car drivers the hassle of whatthefucksupery and stop/starting.
Nobody pays road tax. If you look at your tax disc it says Vehicle Excise Duty which relates to the amount of CO2 the vehicle puts out. Road tax was abolished in 1937 and roads have since been paid for out of general taxation. Being a tax payer, I have or should have just as many rights as any other road user.
@EasySlowRider I f i do not use my car all year but have it stationary on the road therefore producing ZERO CO2, it will need to be taxed all year, it IS a road tax, and no1 cares for your complaining.
I like your argument, but hey man I don’t make up the taxation rules in this country. If you choose to own a vehicle that produces CO2 then you have to pay an owners tax. I had a car on a drive which was hardly used, but I still have to pay the VED
@EasySlowRider Yes i know what the tax is for etc.. But you must see why it can annoy everyday folk, as it still is commonly known as road tax. Also just as there are bad drivers there are some terrible cyclists. And when the majority of cyclists do not use the rules of the road properly, (running red lights thinking they are allowed, turning right when you are not supposed to, switching between lanes and turning right from a left lane etc..) it kind of negates any sympathy.
You know it man. There is good and bad in everyone. Yes, some cyclists do these things that you have listed, as do some motorists. But I don’t feel that all should be condemned, tard with the same brush (cyclist or motorists) because of a minority of bad road users.
Get a bike man, save yourself some money (not alot) and get a different view of this beautiful world. Just watch out for some of those crazies in Mercedes :-)
@tel0j the "majority" of cyclists do obey the rules of the road and ride sensibly or can we start using a minority to tar the rest? Plenty of drivers will freely admit to breaking the speed limits in various non-police polls, some jump red lights and far too many drivers use mobiles but I don't go accusing the majority of doing this?
As for the road tax debate, I believe the "more" correct word would be car tax if you don't to call it VED.
If you choose not to use your car get it off the road, out of the way of the rest of us motorists and cyclists. You can then register it as SORN, and pay no VED
@sparkygl0s I do use my car i was using it as an example, if i had no garage or drive (i have both) where would you suggest i park the car and declare it sorn???? Exactly.
@sparkygl0s Then your suggestion is crap if someone wanted to keep their car. Therefore proving my point that it IS a road tax as you need to pay it to have your car on the road, even if it is stationary. And i grew out of bicycles when i was 12.
'Vehicle Excise Duty', its official name, goes directly into government coffers and does not 'pay for roads. Arguing that cyclists therefore have less right to use the roads is like arguing that smokers should take precedence for medical treatment, because non-smokers don't buy cigarettes and therefore 'don't pay hospital tax". (The Cambridge Cycle Campaign)
I'm not arguing that cyclists have less right to use the road. That was somebody else. All I'm saying is that a vehicle "must be taxed", DVLA words not mine, to use the public roads.
There you go we agree, most vehicles have to be taxed, pay VED. But not all. exceptions I believe are; Electric driven vehicles, Emergency vehicles, Crown vehicles, snow ploughs, trams and bicycles...
@roddyk05 Yes but free is as good as exempt. In fact yes if all vehicles had to have a disc printed by HM government to say "No Charge" on it then that would make my day as it would cost them even more!!!!! Ha Ha!
@sparkygl0s so you would run a horse and rider over cos they dont have VED ???
its the same as a cyclist !
Also tractors are not VED theyre exempt we dont have less right to be on the road we have more right to be on the road The bike came first by 20 years...
The first pedal bike called the "velociopede" or "bone shaker" is invented in 1865
The first pracitcal automobile was created by Karl Benz in 1885
The first pedal bike called the "velociopede" or "bone shaker" is invented in 1865
The first pracitcal automobile was created by Karl Benz in 1885
VED which relates to the amount of CO2 the vehicle puts out. Road tax was abolished in 1937 and roads have since been paid for out of general taxation. Being a tax payer, I have or should have just as many rights as any other road user.
I have found when speaking to drivers at times like this, that it is attack of the killer sociopaths. They consider you poor scum because you are on a bicycle. After all, who would ride a bike if they didn't have to, right?
@mtmassociate It's not too bad when the road is open (lower end of this road meets up with a building destroyed by those arseholes in the riots...). You still occasionally get people swinging out of it to turn back in as that heads back towards the local hospital but the other problem is the speed motorists can take that nice gentle corner - normally at excess 30mph towards the crossing.
@mtmassociate The cars emerging from the left and then immediately re-entering the road SHOULD be turning from the right-turn stacking lane. The fact that they are mostly not is causing the chaos at the junction.
Why are cyclists so aggressive and such road ragers. They need to calm down and smell the roses, and stop targetting car drivers.
no1dagboy 1 hour ago
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Who was aggressive here and caused road rage? The only time that I have been a bit aggressive was when I felt that my life was endangered, I'm sure that's the same with every other cyclists and road user.
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CyclistsFROWUK 3 days ago
from car driver to a cyclist "YOU HAD RIGHT OF WAY!"
markhorneyuk 5 days ago
That's quite amusing. Nice video. You could have all got off/out and had a little picnic, very English
grindupBaker 1 week ago
For once iv actualy seen a bike video were the cyclist isint in the wrong haha
roryg68 1 week ago
If you can crush the thing in front of you, you deserve to go first. Simples!
delPigeon 1 week ago
I love seeing Cyclist fall off there bikes :) Cunts deserve death
scottnffc 1 week ago
wow those drivers were like lemmings following each other, it really sad to see :(
all for the sake of gaining a few seconds which they'll lose on a set of lights any way lol
Wabbit0789 1 week ago
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ok look two posts up:
" i don't think you understand, he's right smack dab in the middle of the road, yes if he kept to the side i can squeeze past. the squeezing past is especially tough with a rather large xterra..." (ninjaseven1) 1 week ago.
I feel that my reading is fine, if I have miss-read that, I can only apologise
EasySlowRider 1 week ago
Cyclists have as much right to the road as cars, lorries, vans etc do, so they can sit in the road wherever they like. Yes, I agree as a cyclist and car driver that it is easier if cyclists stay to the side, but you should only over take a bike if you allow them as much room as you would a car, and what happening here is just wrong all together, you had the right of way and not the other vehicles
TH3MASK3DGUITARIST 1 week ago
That looks like a fucking mad junction! Just imagine meeting 4 taxi drivers on that junction. You would never get through!
stephenTcartwright 2 weeks ago
i dont cycle but i am a driver..... i have no need to be anywhere so fast that i cant take the time to let anyone turn or make room or wait to pass..... it amazes me how impatient car drivers and cyclist are.
excrutiated 2 weeks ago 2
WHITE VAN MAN we meet again
trunksss5 2 weeks ago
Looks like a moron convention!
eddiebruv 3 weeks ago
Wow. Instantly subscribed. That's just shameful, greedy and dangerous driving by so many motorists at once. I'm amazed that you kept so calm.
AmazingLifeAmazingU 3 weeks ago
Wait your fucking turn instead of expecting the drivers to stop for you. They pay insurance and road tax to be on that road, you don't. Don't be such an ignorant bastard!
BassGoodForTheSoul 3 weeks ago
@BassGoodForTheSoul Being as the drivers are crossing his side of travel, they should wait until the road is clear enough to cross... Would they have done this if it had been a car or bigger? I think not. Some cyclists pay insurance and some motorists don't have to pay tax (tax exemptions apply). Some drivers don't pay either....do they have more right to use the road than a cyclist? Road Fund License (tax) applies to motor vehicles. What is the cyclist being ignorant about?
tangomoggy 1 week ago
Never seen so many dozy motorists in one clip!
sese182 3 weeks ago
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well being a motorist, it really is so annoying when cyclists ride in the middle of the road forcing me to drive 30 in a 60.... please stay to the side, and keep out of the road. It's really that simple
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 Cyclists sometimes take the middle to be noticed by other road users (Ok it didn't work here) and to try and stop others from passing if to narrow and unsafe to do so. Would riding on the left side have helped me here?
EasySlowRider 3 weeks ago 7
@EasySlowRider i do share the road. if i can get into the next lane i do. i'm talking when a cyclist is in the middle of a 2-lane road (as in one lane goes the other direction from the other) and he's in the MIDDLE of the road. then it's the cyclists who's being selfish. especially when the speed limit is 55-60. they need to keep to the right side of the road so that we may pass safely
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 Are you serious? You want to squeeze, yes squeeze past a cyclist riding in the gutter at 55-60mph. Come on man, think. This is why defensive riding is being done on the roads you talk about. If you can't pass the cyclist DON'T! WAIT until it is safe to do so.
EasySlowRider 3 weeks ago 14
@EasySlowRider i don't think you understand, he's right smack dab in the middle of the road, yes if he kept to the side i can squeeze past. the squeezing past is especially tough with a rather large xterra. what you did here was fine, it's an intersection, the cars should have let you pass, however, if the speed limit is high say 55-60 mph, (100 km/h or so) then the cyclist should stay on the side of the road. this is merely my opinion on the issue because here in CO, this is a problem.
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@EasySlowRider or.. use the fucking path?
KafesEntertainment 2 weeks ago
@EasySlowRider Ninjaseven you ever been in a coma because of a dangerous driver,
I have, you drive in a weapon shut up and cut up your license
theverdictlondon 1 week ago
@theverdictlondon and cyclists don't cycle dangerously at times as well? just sayin. both need to ride or drive courteously. each needs to give the other room. how does this make me a dangerous driver? please provide me with the logic behind your claim. Everyone i've encounter with the exception of EasySlowRider has been very disrespectful in their words offering me no explanation, nor have the provided me any reasonable logical arguments to why both parties need to be courteous.
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 I Agree with the fact that some cyclist are morons, same with car drivers.
But when you passed your driving test, you went through two tests with questions like this a cyclist is60 yards in front of your vehicle, with a turning on your left at 100,
But there is a car coming toward you from the other direction, do you?
A - Wait back to see how the cyclist reacts
B - Over take Quickly
C - Beep your horn to let the cyclist know you are behind him
D - Drive close behind to let him know,
theverdictlondon 1 week ago
@theverdictlondon i often choose a, if space opens allowing at least 3-5ft of clearance between the cyclist and my car, then i will pass him for imo, that is a safe distance.
ninjaseven1 6 days ago
@ninjaseven1 That is fine and i would agree with that Perfectly, If you look at the video we started to watch, you see a car on the right and cars on the left, i would of been 30 yards behind,
As a cyclist i stick to this, if i am at dangerous jump off the cycle, get into a ball and hope for the best,
imagine if you was to close, that's what we are chatting about and it can be anything,
WIND/CARS/Animals/ Even the fact that one of my gears jammed and forced me into a dangerous situation,
theverdictlondon 5 days ago
@ninjaseven1 When you did your test, a lot of people chose A, But If you think about it, you get people who don't,
I should know like i said, i was run off a main road by a lorry driver who didn't look and was on the phone, I fell off and hit a Sign poll,
I Honestly through i was dead when i came to cause i saw a white light, but just had broken bones and a head injury, and passed out, woke up in a hospital a week later,
No matter how you feel, like i said, Metal vs Bone.. Who wins?
theverdictlondon 1 week ago
@EasySlowRider Today a cyclist really pissed me off and he knew full well. In a queue of traffic moving away I was accelerating and a cyclist cut in front causing me to brake. Then he sat in the middle of the left hand lane all the way to the next set of lights, having me wait and miss 2 green lights which all the drivers in front had gone through, delaying me by about 4 or 5 minutes. I think some cyclists do this out of spite for car drivers in general.
electrogear 3 days ago
@ninjaseven1 Ignorant bellend
DubbyDominate 2 weeks ago
@DubbyDominate how are my remarks ignorant? i'm simply stating that it is rude for motorists ans cyclists alike to take up the whole road. they both need to give each other space. how is this logically ignorant?
ninjaseven1 2 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 Read your highway code. Regardless of the speed limit, any vulnerable road user (cyclist, motorcyclist etc) MUST be given the same amount of space as a car when overtaking, and therefore it shouldn't matter wether the cyclist is to the side or the middle. The only time a cyclist should be at the side is when there is a designated cycle lane. Just because you can go faster does not give you priority, it's a safety thing.
Lozzorien 1 week ago
@Lozzorien i'm not arguing the law, i'm arguing courtesy of the cyclist.
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 As if it was impossible for you to wait that 15 extra seconds in order to pass.
PlanCartesien 1 week ago
@PlanCartesien and you guys are acting as though it is impossible to be courteous.
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 Well, seeing as the motorists shown in this video have no courtesy, I take it you are referring to motorists when saying "you guys"
PlanCartesien 1 week ago
@PlanCartesien i'm referring to both. I've seen both cyclists and motorists be rude to one another.
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 So stop bitching about cyclists
PlanCartesien 1 week ago
@PlanCartesien well i am merely stating logical counterarguments to which you obviously cannot argue against. i am simply bringing up points to how one can cycle more courteously. So aside from trying to persuade me to shut up, i merely suggest you provide me with a logical argument of where my flaws are. if your arguments are well thought out i will acknowledge that fact but simply "cut up your license" or "stop bitching" does not provide counterarguments to my logical claims.
ninjaseven1 6 days ago
@ninjaseven1 There is nothing "logical" about your arguments. There is no "logic" in giving more weight to your having to wait 15 seconds over another human being's life. There is no discourtesy in a cyclist's making sure he doesn't get run off the road. You say cyclists lack courtesy, well I find your statements show a complete disregard for other people's safety. If you cannot see that, then you are either a troll, or maybe you should cut up your license.
PlanCartesien 6 days ago
@PlanCartesien as i've said before i choose space, and do not pass unless there is at least 3-5 feet of clearance. however it is in my opinion discourteous when a cyclist rides in the middle of the road without any regard for whatever is behind him. there is logic behind my statement. i supposed i could honk my horn, but that just leads to the cyclist being angered when i was merely letting him know that i'm behind him and that i would like to pass. this is a very logical thought process.
ninjaseven1 6 days ago
@ninjaseven1 Again: there is no "logic" in giving more weight to 15 secs over another person's safety. Honking at a slower vehicle is aggressive and discourteous. Thinking that someone wouldn't be angered by that is not a "logical thought process". The mere fact that you are convinced by your own arguments does not make them any more "logical". It just shows how one-sided your opinions are. As a cyclist and motorist, I don't mind waiting 15 secs or even more in order to pass safely.
PlanCartesien 6 days ago
@PlanCartesien apparently you do not know what logical thinking is. it's simple really. there is a problem, cyclists and motorists can't get along due to actions from BOTH parties not just one or the other. as i said, i don't mind waiting, however, they teach you in drivers ed to lightly tap your horn so people know you're behind them. at least thats how it is here in CO and that is considered courteous. and btw, who's being the disrespectful one here? it's definitely you
ninjaseven1 6 days ago
@ninjaseven1 I'm a math teacher. I'm used to people confusing personal conviction with logic and it's quite obvious to everyone here that you're the one who doesn't get it. I should have known you're an American, where "might means right" and where it's OK to blow someone's head off with a gun for stepping on your lawn. My bad for thinking I'd be able to reason with you.
I guess there must be a lot of cycling casualties in Colorado.
PlanCartesien 6 days ago
@ninjaseven1 Learning to drive in the UK I was taught never to beep at cyclists or pedestrians. I think the reasoning is that if they have no idea you're behind them (and in most cases they'd have to be pretty deaf not to notice) a loud sudden noise is just going to scare the pants off them and not help the situation at all.
dingoeskidney 5 days ago
@ninjaseven1 Nowhere on UK roads is the speed limit "55-60".
ferranerazzi 1 day ago
@ferranerazzi i'm not from the UK nor do i live there
ninjaseven1 1 day ago
@ninjaseven1 I didn't say you were.
ferranerazzi 1 day ago
@EasySlowRider this is why i ride on the path i do i know its illigal but if a copper tells you off. tell him to write you a suicide note and he will fuck off. i got overtaken by a 45 ton truck going down hill on the left side curb of a A road doing 50+ mph tanking it down hill and the driver nearly killed me by pushing me against the brickwall and i had to hold onto the truck due to the lack of space between me the truck and the brickwall
GWR4079 2 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 - riding "in the middle of the road"? Come on - how often does that happen?
And your solution is far from safe or simple - sorry, mate.
Normal safe cycling position - at least 1 metre from the kerb, or in the middle of the left hand lane. Check it out - Department for Transport, IAM, Police training manuals, government's Bikeability training scheme --- and not one of those is a cycling organisation.
Please recognise that and drive safely?
growingvegetable 3 weeks ago
@growingvegetable
well, yes 1m from the curb makes perfect sense. However, in the town that i currently live in, cyclists, in the summer of course, sometimes ride smack dab right in the middle of the road. if they kept 1m from the curb, that's more than enough distance to safely pass
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1
Excuse me - you're only reading the bit you want to read!
The advice is "at least 1 metre from the kerb, OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LEFT HAND LANE". And there's any number of good reasons for taking the middle of the lane - including trying to prevent silly and dangerous overtaking manoeuvres! I don't know what kind of a driver you are - but there are incompetent and seriously dangerous dingbats out there.
[There's good reasons for using other lanes too]
growingvegetable 3 weeks ago
@growingvegetable i am saying, it is annoying when there is a two lane road, the speed limit is in the higher range, and the cyclist stays right smack dab in the middle of the road and there is a double yellow line, thus not allowing me to pass him safely. if he was on the side more, then i could pass him and all would be good
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 1 metre from the curb is about the middle. Don't fucking pass us until its safe and we wouldn't ride like we do. I've been hospitalised twice because of idiots who think they rule the road in their big 4x4, then they can't fucking drive it when they overtake and end up hitting me.
Hence. I ride in the middle. For my own safety. I'm not in a steel bubble. You are.You have a roof, I don't. Don't cry about being held up when your nice and toasty in there!
squirt244 1 week ago
@squirt244 well, cyclists need to ride courteously as well as in letting us pass. that is why i slow down when i come close to a biker. I'm sorry you've been hospitalized, but maybe on wide roads you should ride a bit more to the side so we can pass safely. just sayin. it's courteous. aggressive riding is not taking into consideration the motorist behind you. so i must blatantly disagree with your claim
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 The problem is quite a few drivers won't drive as nicely as you do, so when the lane is 3m wide or less, then we pretty much have to ride in the middle of the lane for our own safety. Other things that often cause cyclists to need to be further out from the edge of the road might include:
Potholes/man hole covers
Parked cars (need 7 feet of room for doors)
Road narrowings
Through junctions
Doing the speed limit
etc.
CyclingMikey 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 Share the road, don't be selfish. Lay that cyclist on his side, out to the right. How much space do you need to pass him safely? About that shown in the picture in the highway code in rule 163. Pass in the next lane please.
CyclingMikey 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 Well being a cyclist It really is so annoying when motorists drive slowly in the middle of the road in towns forcing me to do 15mph in a 30 zone. Please, stay at home and keep off the road completely, it really is that simple....
ynotnilknarf39 3 weeks ago
@ynotnilknarf39
please, if you're going to be rude, at least make an argument that makes sense...
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 lol, that you do not understand the point I'm making is it worth explaining? You complain about cyclists in the middle of the road yet we are traffic, We are legally allowed in the centre of the lane the same as other vehicles. you have to 'overtake' us safely & give way to us as you would other vehicles. That also is legally proper. that we sometimes ride toward the left of the lane is a courtesy from us helping you,.yet you still slow us down in cities & elsewhere HTH
ynotnilknarf39 3 weeks ago
@ynotnilknarf39 yet it is just plane rude for a cyclist to hog the whole road and not stick to the side when there is heavy traffic. they make bike lanes for a reason here in colorado. more specifically in the boulder area. happens all the time.
ninjaseven1 3 weeks ago
@ynotnilknarf39 It really is annoying having car's create traffic jams slowing us cyclists down. If you are going into town just don't go in by car and slow us down, it really is that simple....
electrictactical 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 WELL SAID
tafafzal 3 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 Shut up. Just give them room and overtake when you get a gap. simple. learn to drive.
mikeco9090 3 weeks ago
@mikeco9090 um my point is still valid. i've seen cyclists take up the entire road it's rude no matter what. it's rude for motorists to do the same. learn to be a more courteous cyclist.
ninjaseven1 2 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 motorists *always* take up the whole road, cyclists *sometimes* do, especially when there is debris or a pinch point, have patience, overtake when it is safe , leave a meter - at least.
antday 2 weeks ago
@ninjaseven1 You do realise. We wouldn't have to ride defensively, if there was nothing to defend ourselves from. Just think about that for a moment ;)
squirt244 1 week ago
@ninjaseven1 and what percentage of the time, in traffic are you held up by cars rather than bikes? honestly now.. yes, I thought so, cars make up far more traffic than bikes by a massive margin, most of the time, when you overtake a bike he will catch you up further down the road when you get caught up in the *car* traffic. Have a bit of patience, better still, get a bike, ride it and experience the difference - get to work faster , lose the fat too
antday 2 weeks ago
HAHA little man thinks he is car, funny
NOW CRUSH HIM
jnewbon00 3 weeks ago
to be fair mate no offence to you i was having a bast through your videos and most of the people drive pikey cars anyway.
chormeholmes 4 weeks ago
cyclists should have insurance. bloke crashed into me the other day, easily £200 worth of damage, he said sorry and fucked off. what am i suppost to do? chase after him, knock him down and get his contact details?
chormeholmes 4 weeks ago
@chormeholmes I agree, insurance is a good idea. That is why some cyclists join the CTC as membership gives third party insurance cover. What happened to you was bad man and I don't know what the answer is, wish I did. Maybe membership to groups like the CTC could be encouraged and advertised more, who knows? The main reason that I got a camera was because of a hit and run and hopefully it could be used as a witness if involved in future incidents.
EasySlowRider 4 weeks ago 11
@chormeholmes yes
daveygravey123456 3 weeks ago
@chormeholmes Insurance would make no difference, it's the same as someone knocking a tv out of your hands, do what you would then, call the police etc etc.
out of curiosity how did the cyclist cause £200 worth of damage and none to speak of to himself?
Omni315 1 week ago
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I'm a cyclist,motorcyclist and car driver myself and there's far too many lycra clad ( soz if your doing the baggies and mountain bike thing Easy) headcam i'm so wronged thing on here brigade . But credit where credit is due the Ka driver has cut it a bit fine, the Zafria driver i'm pretty sure has just broken the law, the Transit driver needs a slap and i personally would have knocked the mirror of the hairdresser in the Megane
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jasemat 4 weeks ago
@jasemat Why do you think so many cyclists wear cameras now? It's simple - because we're sick and tired of drivers misbehaving and being careless towards us. The evidence is clearly out there, in thousands upon thousands of youtube traffic videos.
CyclingMikey 1 week ago
EasySlowRider, I apologize for my comments. I'll remove them if you want. I usually don't comment this way, but that troll made it too easy to feed it. :-)
kievcyclist 4 weeks ago
@kievcyclist seriously a troll? haha shows how dumb you are, your an easy target for me fool. oh im so sorry blah blah blah, Shut up and stop trying to butt fuck EasySlowRider in the arse. face the fact your a bitch and need a slap
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 Oh dear, you are a sad little whiner.
downfader2 4 weeks ago
@downfader2 and you are a sad little arrogant prick
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 But proved right aint I.Now run along, mummy has made tea for you.
downfader2 3 weeks ago
@downfader2 haha im afraid that could be your wife that's made tea for me ;0 you foolish boy, grow up.
MultiBulletproof123 3 weeks ago
If the cyclist had been driving a car would the other road users of done what we have just seen, I think not...
dazxy2001 1 month ago
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MOST people who ride bikes try and own the road, they sometimes get in the way, they feel like there always in the right. Im a driver and most accidents that seem to occur nowadays are because of bikes
MultiBulletproof123 1 month ago
@MultiBulletproof123 got to disagree with you. I'm also a driver, cyclist and ex London bus driver and found that most accidents are caused by road users being impatient. Most cyclists don't believe they own the road, they just want the same considerations and respect as other road users. The video showed that the cyclist had right of way and basically shows the attitude shown by some motorist to cyclist. Everyone wants to go from a - b safely, why should cyclist be treated any different?
EasySlowRider 1 month ago 3
@MultiBulletproof123 Cyclists get in the way? Don't other road users get in the way then? Or is it that cyclists are an easy target and it can be frustrating for an impatient driver to watch a bike get to some destinations quicker than a motorist.
EasySlowRider 1 month ago 2
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@EasySlowRider yes cyclist get in the way, because alot of them dont use there cycle path. yes i agree that impatience is a big thing that causes accidents, but they wouldnt be impatient if there wasnt so many idiotic cyclists around. there just as bad. oh and btw....FUCK YOU!!!! I HATE BUS DRIVERS, ARROGANT SHITS!. but it seems like youve mended your ways being an EX
MultiBulletproof123 1 month ago
@MultiBulletproof123 you don't seem to like a lot of other road users. Guessing what you need or would like is your own private road to drive around on. Just wondering what it would be like with no buses or cyclists on the road. How many extra cars do you think that may generate? Then you would have to moan about the as*eholes in either Audi's, BMW's, Merc's etc getting in your way :o)
EasySlowRider 4 weeks ago 11
@MultiBulletproof123 WTF are you crying about? Theres no legal obligation by cyclists to use off-road routes in the UK. How clear can that be?
"Most accidents.." comment 3000 deaths annually on UK roads.Only around 120 of those involve cycles. How is that because of cyclists?
Stop looking for scapegoats like cyclists and bus drivers.
downfader2 4 weeks ago 2
@MultiBulletproof123 Too many cyclists? Ahahahahaha! Here in London, if all us cyclists who own cars chose to drive to work instead of cycling, you'd have gridlock and a terrible day of driving.
Compare that to just 10% of drivers joining all the current cyclists on their bikes. Traffic would be like August summer holidays, and better for everyone.
CyclingMikey 1 week ago
@MultiBulletproof123 "Most accidents...are because of bikes". I have to say that is a load of utter tosh and not borne out by any statistics.
Docroddy 1 month ago
@MultiBulletproof123 spoken like a true idiot, both these drivers assumed wrongly, cyclist had PRIORITY. end of.
Testedecazzo 1 month ago
@Testedecazzo sounds like your the idiot here mate, i bet you wear them skin tight gay shorts and think hes really cool with hes stupid bike. people likie you obviously havent got a clue.your the type that rides through red lights, and thinks its ok, but when a car cuts you up because your in the way, then ooooh noooo its such a problem. just a tip for you idiot, stay off the road, or...buy a car. simple :)
MultiBulletproof123 1 month ago
@MultiBulletproof123 You're, not your. He's, not hes. Haven't, not havent. You're, not your (again). It's, not its. You're, not your (again). It's, not its (again). Etc.
You're 26 and live in the UK? Not only your English is awful, you need to grow up. You also need to work on your logical skills.
And like EasySlowRider said, get your own private road. You'll be happy. Other road users will be even happier.
kievcyclist 4 weeks ago 2
@kievcyclist YOUR A DICK! lol hows that for english, i honestly dont care about how i spell or write because were talking about cyclist being pricks, which YOUVE just proved my point. like im actually focused on how im spelling makes any difference on what u read?, my goodness. your making no sense at all. and YOUR obviously some sort of retard who cant afford a car and rides a gay push bike because you think it does the world a favor....hang yourself mate. it will make me happy
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 You don't care how you write, and you don't care that you're making it difficult for others to understand you. That's inconsiderate of you (I'm being polite. You, on the other hand, would say prick or dick). Oh and YOU'RE, not YOUR.
FYI, bicycles are asexual. Saying a bike is gay is like saying you have IQ points. It just doesn't apply.
kievcyclist 4 weeks ago 2
@kievcyclist hahaha saying that your not gay truly means your are, Just stop. your not being "POLITE" YOUR BEING AN ARRGANT FOOL so just stop. your making yourself sound even worse
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 Bye.
kievcyclist 4 weeks ago
@kievcyclist Foolish boy. bye
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@kievcyclist oh and btw, stop trying to be clever mate, your pothetic. ive seen your profile too. your exaclty what im talking about. An arrogant shit on the road who believes the world owes him something. get off the dam road. People like you deserve to be hit by a car, it wil teach you to be more down to earth instead of up your own arse.
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 I do hope that you don't really believe that anyone deserves to be hit by a car
EasySlowRider 4 weeks ago 2
@EasySlowRider no i dont
MultiBulletproof123 4 weeks ago
@MultiBulletproof123 Wrong, the vast majority of the subset of collisions between motor vehicles and cyclists are the fault of the drivers. The reason is obvious and easy to understand - drivers are protected in a metal cage, whilst cyclists are not, and thus have extreme motivation to avoid crashing.
Nice run of negative votes on your comments, and thumbs up for most other peoples. ;)
CyclingMikey 1 week ago 2
person + car = idiot
MrSmoothjiggy 1 month ago
@Flamorgan get a better idea
0snakebite 1 month ago
8 seconds off. This comment toke like 2 minutes
zzkokko 1 month ago
wtf are these retarded streets
norcofoxrider 1 month ago
@0snakebite they probably haven't.
MegaOptionzTV 1 month ago
wow these idiots are so dumb it's unbelievable that they even have licences
0snakebite 1 month ago
why did the vauxhal go out when the van was still in the middle of the road?!! where are their brains!!!
TheBuble5051 1 month ago
This video just shows car drives shitting on other car drivers. The cyclist appears to have right of way, yet one car half pulls out so ht ecyclist stops and goes WTF. carried on and causes the same thing with the next car and the next car and the next...If the first dickhead would have just let him go in the first place. like hes supposed to, then it would have saved the cyclist and all the other car drivers the hassle of whatthefucksupery and stop/starting.
kal9001 1 month ago
Probably something to do with the fact you do not pay road tax so us motorists feel we have more right to be on the road than you lot.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
Nobody pays road tax. If you look at your tax disc it says Vehicle Excise Duty which relates to the amount of CO2 the vehicle puts out. Road tax was abolished in 1937 and roads have since been paid for out of general taxation. Being a tax payer, I have or should have just as many rights as any other road user.
EasySlowRider 1 month ago
@EasySlowRider I f i do not use my car all year but have it stationary on the road therefore producing ZERO CO2, it will need to be taxed all year, it IS a road tax, and no1 cares for your complaining.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
I like your argument, but hey man I don’t make up the taxation rules in this country. If you choose to own a vehicle that produces CO2 then you have to pay an owners tax. I had a car on a drive which was hardly used, but I still have to pay the VED
EasySlowRider 1 month ago
@EasySlowRider Yes i know what the tax is for etc.. But you must see why it can annoy everyday folk, as it still is commonly known as road tax. Also just as there are bad drivers there are some terrible cyclists. And when the majority of cyclists do not use the rules of the road properly, (running red lights thinking they are allowed, turning right when you are not supposed to, switching between lanes and turning right from a left lane etc..) it kind of negates any sympathy.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
You know it man. There is good and bad in everyone. Yes, some cyclists do these things that you have listed, as do some motorists. But I don’t feel that all should be condemned, tard with the same brush (cyclist or motorists) because of a minority of bad road users.
Get a bike man, save yourself some money (not alot) and get a different view of this beautiful world. Just watch out for some of those crazies in Mercedes :-)
EasySlowRider 1 month ago
@tel0j the "majority" of cyclists do obey the rules of the road and ride sensibly or can we start using a minority to tar the rest? Plenty of drivers will freely admit to breaking the speed limits in various non-police polls, some jump red lights and far too many drivers use mobiles but I don't go accusing the majority of doing this?
As for the road tax debate, I believe the "more" correct word would be car tax if you don't to call it VED.
SkrzypczykBass 1 month ago
@tel0j
If you choose not to use your car get it off the road, out of the way of the rest of us motorists and cyclists. You can then register it as SORN, and pay no VED
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
@sparkygl0s I do use my car i was using it as an example, if i had no garage or drive (i have both) where would you suggest i park the car and declare it sorn???? Exactly.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
If you had a car you didn't use, and nowhere to keep it I'd suggest you got rid of it. Maybe get a bike.
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
@sparkygl0s Then your suggestion is crap if someone wanted to keep their car. Therefore proving my point that it IS a road tax as you need to pay it to have your car on the road, even if it is stationary. And i grew out of bicycles when i was 12.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
I never said it wasn't a road tax. I'm just saying there is no point keeping a car on the road if it is not being used.
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
@sparkygl0s Your ilk do, and that is not your decision what other people may do with their property.
tel0j 1 month ago
@tel0j
Whats my ilk? Do what you like with your car. Its your decision. If you choose to keep it on the road pay the VED which is due.
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
@EasySlowRider
VED is a road tax. If I may quote the DVLA.
"Every vehicle registered in the United Kingdom (UK) must be taxed if used or kept on a public road."
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
'Vehicle Excise Duty', its official name, goes directly into government coffers and does not 'pay for roads. Arguing that cyclists therefore have less right to use the roads is like arguing that smokers should take precedence for medical treatment, because non-smokers don't buy cigarettes and therefore 'don't pay hospital tax". (The Cambridge Cycle Campaign)
EasySlowRider 1 month ago
@EasySlowRider
I'm not arguing that cyclists have less right to use the road. That was somebody else. All I'm saying is that a vehicle "must be taxed", DVLA words not mine, to use the public roads.
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
@sparkygl0s
There you go we agree, most vehicles have to be taxed, pay VED. But not all. exceptions I believe are; Electric driven vehicles, Emergency vehicles, Crown vehicles, snow ploughs, trams and bicycles...
EasySlowRider 1 month ago
@EasySlowRider don't forget Historic Vehicles pre April 1973 also are exempt.
Bluesbreaker2010 1 month ago
@Bluesbreaker2010 Even these vehicles must display a valid road fund licence ( tax disc ) it's just that they are free, not exempt.
roddyk05 1 month ago
@roddyk05 Yes but free is as good as exempt. In fact yes if all vehicles had to have a disc printed by HM government to say "No Charge" on it then that would make my day as it would cost them even more!!!!! Ha Ha!
RocketScientist79 1 month ago
@sparkygl0s so you would run a horse and rider over cos they dont have VED ???
its the same as a cyclist !
Also tractors are not VED theyre exempt we dont have less right to be on the road we have more right to be on the road The bike came first by 20 years...
The first pedal bike called the "velociopede" or "bone shaker" is invented in 1865
The first pracitcal automobile was created by Karl Benz in 1885
samhoward9 1 month ago
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How on Earth have you inferred from my comments that I would run over anything?
sparkygl0s 1 month ago
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@tel0j The bike came first by 20 years...
The first pedal bike called the "velociopede" or "bone shaker" is invented in 1865
The first pracitcal automobile was created by Karl Benz in 1885
VED which relates to the amount of CO2 the vehicle puts out. Road tax was abolished in 1937 and roads have since been paid for out of general taxation. Being a tax payer, I have or should have just as many rights as any other road user.
samhoward9 1 month ago
HAHAHA WHAT THE FILTH ARE DRIVERS DOING THESE DAYS.
ribblestealth 2 months ago
I have found when speaking to drivers at times like this, that it is attack of the killer sociopaths. They consider you poor scum because you are on a bicycle. After all, who would ride a bike if they didn't have to, right?
MrCyclist68 2 months ago
you're like Moses parting the Red Sea.
arushandapushand 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 10
Wow!.
TheMaka456 6 months ago
get your cleats on their bonnet!
Nimtar100 6 months ago 2
Thats really poor driving from everyone, there is no excuse to drive on the wrong side of the road just to get to the road you want.
cscarlet696 6 months ago
War zone. Jesus that's stressful being treated like a pylon.
adventuresincycling 6 months ago
@adventuresincycling Welcome to London, man.
TVismyopiate 2 months ago
hard life...
electricyclist 6 months ago
that is one hell of a intersection. Just looking at it didn't make any sense. The drivers themselves looked confused as to how to negotiate it.
mtmassociate 6 months ago 12
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It's only temporary with some of the roads being closed going into Croydon
EasySlowRider 6 months ago
@mtmassociate Looks like a standard junction buddy, with a side road on the left. Whats so hard to make sense of and be confused about??
saltyPnut 1 month ago
@mtmassociate It's not too bad when the road is open (lower end of this road meets up with a building destroyed by those arseholes in the riots...). You still occasionally get people swinging out of it to turn back in as that heads back towards the local hospital but the other problem is the speed motorists can take that nice gentle corner - normally at excess 30mph towards the crossing.
SkrzypczykBass 1 month ago
@mtmassociate The cars emerging from the left and then immediately re-entering the road SHOULD be turning from the right-turn stacking lane. The fact that they are mostly not is causing the chaos at the junction.
Docroddy 1 month ago
truly pathetic drivers
Testedecazzo 6 months ago