we can no longer trust our future to the hands of poloticians,law makers,and pharmaceutical corps.we must take our health into our own hands.prohibition is only a money ploy
I treat ppl with obegaine, it does occupy the parts of the brain that feels WD's and u still have the WD's u just don't realize it, it is a mild trip and yes is mild compared with LSD but still a strong drug,a lot has to come from within the addict, they must want to stop aswell, I have ppl text or send cards at Xmas sayin ty so can't say it doesn't work, there is a lot of SHIT on the market claiming to be the real mc coy, be sure before taking
I notice that nobody has referred to "the Bwiti." That is the being many claim to encounter while under the effects of ibogaine. Yes. I did encounter the Bwiti.
At the risk of sounding insane, I will tell the truth anyway. I didn't see this being mind you. I felt its presence. It lasted about five seconds. It was amazing.
Another thing - Ibogaine is NOT a mild experience. The Africans who have used it for years say "It cracks your skull. You go and you come back." It is a HEAVY experience. The first sensation is that you lose all desire to move and then your hearing grows acute and you mainly just lie there. Some people hallucinate wildly and these can vary from wonderful to terrifying to just plain tedious. My experience was rather tedious although I had a few interesting moments. Howard Lotsoff - RIP.
I took Ibogaine in the mid nineties. I will never regret my experience but I can not in good conscience say it's a cure nor did it provide me with a pain free withdrawal either. I will just say this. I'm sixty seven years old and I've done it all from rehabs
including Synanon and Daytop to Methadone programs to Ibogaine to you name it.
It's Also Sad; listen to Dr.Debra: "when I first heard of it, I didn't believe and though it was something that needed to be debunked..." that is a scientist holding onto 'beliefs', instead practicing science they worship scientificism, just like the average 'man of faith' they fight so hard against. This type of obscurantism of the part of 'mainstream science' is frankly deplorable and plain unacceptable.
@egyptianminor Announcer's full of shit @ 5:02 when he says 'opiates as heroin and cocaine'. Cocaine is not an opiate: what all these drugs -opiates, speed, coke, alcohol, barbiturates -have in common is that they're either primarily depressants or stimulants of the Central Nervous System, unlike Cannabis and Psychedelics in general.
Not everyone who takes opiates is a junkie. Many of us are hard working, successful people that got caught in the pain killer web. Such a terrible problem with no way out. Ibogaine could save so many lives. Bullshit it's not available here.
PLEASE BE ADVISED. NOT a miracle cure for addiction; NOTHING mild about it. Beware of anyone who talks about govt conspiring with pharm industry to keep YOU addicted. Addicts are easy to scam and often enjoy blaming systemic causes for personal problems. If you MUST seek this treatment know that YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR LIFE in the hands of an unauthorized practitioner utilizing a highly dangerous, untested treatment modality.
@pervertedpenguin69 OUR DAMN government. Our own military sending the opium shit in here from afghanastan and then busting ppl for using the shit. WHAT IS WRONG HERE? LET PPL GET THIS AND LEAVE THEM ALONE. SO what if it cam from the underground. If the FDA can't make $-(pharm.co's etc..)they ban it! sick.
I've heard that in a few cases Ibogaine doesn't work, or just works temporarily. That may be the case, but if this substance has the ability to do what some people claim it does, it needs to be investigated. So what if the success rate is only like 80% (don't know the actual statistics)? That is still amazing and this substance is worthy of study.
The confusing area for me was whenever I got off opiates in the past and subutex I only had depression for a few weeks and it was pretty mild, but with ibogaine I was almost 2 months into deep depression. I know it had a lot to do with ibogaine, the strenght of the depressin was bad too. The cravings only went for 2 days, thats bullshit, am not going to waste so many dollars just to cover me 2 days and suddenly get hit with some bad depression. Its garbage, but this is my experience.
@Solarlad Right on dude. Thank you for being open about your experiences. I went through opiate withdrawal with NOTHING to help me (after nearly six months of shooting 20 - 30 pills a day) and at the end of that I felt as if I had just crawled out of the 9th circle of Hell. The depression was the worst. Bedridden for weeks and couldn't eat. Contemplated suicide. I don't think Ibogaine is the cure for addiction in all cases but it definitely needs to be studied.
I did it twice and both times I relapsed, because of depression and lingering shitty withdrawals. I was however on subutex & meth too. Many have the same experience as me where you feel on top of the world for a couple of day but then you slide down, basically withdrawals come later to you, the depression is the worst lot. I dont trust ibogain to be honest. Whole lot of garbage if you ask me. The vivid dreams and visions arent all that exciting, if your naive then you will be affected by them.
DR DREW WAS QUOTED SAYING THAT AT LEAST 25 OF HIS PATIENTS TRIED IT AND DIDNT WORK FOR THEM PLUS THEIR MOOD AND PERSONALITY WAS WORSE OFF AFTERWARDS. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CHARLIE SHEENS EX WANTING TO GO TO MEXICO TO DO IT BUT GOT SCARED. DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST CAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT COME BACK, THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE GIVING IT AND DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH TO GIVE.
At first i thought ibogaine was the real deal but after three treatments over a year and a half, each time the withdrawals came back. I did it with dimitri in jersey, i did it with clare in mexico and got ibogaine through sara in amsterdam. The withdrawals came back even worse oh and the depression that came with it. This is just my experience with it. Do your research .
Good news, but it's a shame they are proliferating lies. There HAS been much research and study on ibogaine. this compound in Amerikkka is the brain-child of Howard Lotsof, who is a great scientist and has made leaps and bounds in te field of research.
At first i thought ibogaine was the real deal but after three treatments over a year and a half, each time the withdrawals came back. I did it with dimitri in jersey, i did it with clare in mexico and got ibogaine through sara in amsterdam. The withdrawals came back even worse oh and the depression that came with it. This is just my experience with it. give a thumbs up if yours was the same so others will know.
@xbradx11 Why would i lie about something that worked, but im going to tell people it didnt work. If it was so wonderful why are there so many others saying the same thing . "brad"
@1968bigcity Sorry to say everytime you get addicted the physical detox gets worse no two ways about it,I have done heroine for 18 yrs, At first I would only get a small amt of both symptoms and severity and everytime I used enuff to get a habit the detox became longer with increasing numbers of symptoms along with the decreasing the time needed to get re-addicted finally I got to where 1-2 days in a row I had physical withdrawl, and having to fix every 4-6 hrs not the 24 hrs it was before.
@1968bigcity Sorry to say everytime you get addicted the physical detox gets worse no two ways about it,I have done heroine for 18 yrs, At first I would only get a small amt of both symptoms and severity and everytime I used enuff to get a habit the detox became longer with increasing numbers of symptoms along with the decreasing the time needed to get re-addicted finally I got to where 1-2 days in a row I had physical withdrawls and fixing every 4-6 hrs;un-like the 24 hrs it took before.
@ the guy that said it did not work for him.Unfortunately there are providers that aren't worth a shit. . For methadone there is a straight up protocol to follow you should have been given a couple of "boosters to take home in case that happens. I am a provider, mine is 99% pure,we follow protocol..drugabuserehabinfo,net
@cwconcord Dont private message me and say you punk ass bitch and your a provider.Yea right, YOUR A BULLSHITTER... tell me that to my face and see whos a punkass, YOU BITCH....
Ibogaine wasn't discovered by a junkie, it had been used for generations by different tribes in the area of which it grew as a cleanser of the mind and body.
The Government (or its associates) has and will be doing whatever they can do to debunk this. The medical field will lose a lot of money. If I were working for them, I would do everything to eliminate all those plants. It would be bad for business.......and I'm an idiot.
this is @cwg138 I took ibogaine 4 years ago through the underground in San Fran. It worked great.I need to take it again,I went through a surgery and had to take hard pain meds for 6 months,pains gone,I'm strung again.I will only do ibogaine, fuck all that suboxen bullshit,or tough it out.sorry i kicked 5 yr methadone run in 86 never again,write me @cwconcord@hotmail....please put ibogaine i'm in san diego need helping hand
I also took iboga for methadone addiction but am living proof it did NOT work me. After about 3 days of being clean and no withdrawals the extreme withdrawals came and so did paws i.e post acute withdrawal syndrome. Infact I have taken it twice and twice the withdrawals crippled with depression hit me really hard. Am sorry but it does not work for drug addicts, it all it does is eliminate 1 or 2 withdrawals but only for a few days to weeks. Its much worse for suboxone and methadone addicts.
@Solarlad I used it to come off of methadone as well. Methadone stays in the system for so long that withdrawl come back. At that point, a tiny bit can be used as withdrawls come back to mostly elimate them. I'm over 8 months off of methadone now, (after being on it for years) and have absolutely no cravings....
I was an opiate addict for 10 years, heroin for 5. Tried methadone, waste of time, longer withdrawl, just a bit cheaper and legal is all. I had to get back on heroin just to kick the long methadone WD. Then I tried a bunch of things again.Then I discovered Ibogaine from a concerned friend. One heavy dose was all I needed no WD. And after "the awakening" I didnt crave opiates anymore. It's like it hit the reset button on my brain and NT's. Look into it now, not sure how legal is going to stay.
Even coming off heroin alone, withdrawal effects can linger for weeks. 5 days is complete horseshit! Maybe after 5 days the vomiting stops and the cramps stop. After 5 days, the euphoria of feeling the acute phase coming to an end can make you feel 'better'. Let me assure you, it aint over. It took me about 4 weeks before I felt ok, and MONTHS before I could say I was at ease and untroubled by restlessness or cravings. I heard Ibogaine is as much a spiritual experience and cure as anything else.
I fear that addiction will spread more than it is now cause ppl will think of it like "hey they invented something to not be addicted to heroin, lets chase dragons during some weeks and get fucked up, if we get hooked then ill go on plan b Ibogaine..."
I was addicted to codeine for almost a year everyday, thanks to weed im off that shit.
@lormendi nope, im not affraid of ibogaine, im pro ibogaine to get addicts of drugs, but lormendi you sure understand that now that there is a "cure" against addiction ppl will lose this "get hooked" fear and more ppl will get into drugs because there is already a cure.
@SonyaOOOlights 1-2 weeks respite is enough to get over the most sever withdrawal symptoms, and even those who administer the Ibogaine itself emphasize the need for follow up visits to the doctor and counseling. Nobody ever claimed it was a miracle drug, only that it helps a lot, and it does.
@Malice197 You are obviously totally unqualified to make these comments - Maybe a medical student, doctor, or drug worker? Someone whose experience lies in theory only.
Come to the long term programme where I have been working for two years, study the data, and observe for yourself. Withdrawal symptoms for Methadone can last for considerably more than 2 weeks, Suboxone or Subutex also. I have detoxed from these drugs myself, and it was about 3 months before I got normal sleep.
@SonyaOOOlights That sucks that you're PAWS are so severe. Some people are simply doomed for eternity. I feel you maybe one of these people. It's doubtful anything will work for you except death. You probably won't have any PAWS then. There are ways to die now rather than wait until old age. If you would like to learn more about some of these methods, please let me know. Until then enjoy your addiction. Have a wonderful drug addicted day!
@SonyaOOOlights I am confused. Are you saying you feel ibogaine does or does not work for suboxone and methadone? I've heard many say it's much harder to treat addiction to long acting opiates than short acting. The people you mention that relapsed did so because they are fuck ups. That's the reason anybody relapses and that's got nothing to do with ibogaine. Ibogaine is simply a tool that many find helpful, but necessarily everybody. By the way, I don't make any money with ibogaine.
Please read about Patrick Kroupa at wikipedia. He is a sef confeced career addict bipolar pschizophrenic psycopath attention seeking gay faggot rich punk and more whom thrives on attention. He is lord somebody in his mind he says and travels wordwide as a paid spokeserson for dr mashpotatoes and her campaign for fame. He is relasped to date and i find him totaly uncreditable as an ibogaine advocate!!!!
@micturate3 I read the wiki article, and your characterization of him based on that Wiki entry is woefully shitty. How do YOU know he has relapsed? Do you know him personally?
I also went to Miami to participate in the FDA human clinical trials with Ibogaine, led by Dr.Juan Sanchez-Ramos and Dr.Deborah Mash! They wanted me to paticipate because I was the last person who had been treated with Ibogaine in the Netherlands, because after my Girlfriend died the rest of the patients had to leave. Dr. Mash also onlywants fame and fortune, because she tried to led the tests go through, although she knew I had serious liver disease. Finally Dr. Ramos forbid her ton do it.
@Millmannetje Do you have anything to back up your story, beyond being some anonymous guy on the internet? I am sorry to hear about your girlfriend, and thats terrible.
how can i get this stuff ibogaine?tried everything this could chane my any many others lives whats the matter with this country banning it, i dont want to even say why i think they dont awnt people to kick hard core narcotics ,it sickins me no addicts do you know how many jobs would be lost ,screw them our lives are more important then there paychecks,whats wrong with this country n law enforcement oh then they have to go after real criminals not beat up on helpless addicts n get paid for it wow
@hitoki1354 pretty much, patrick kroupa is a really interesting psychopath, not real sure he's a typical result though. mostly i hear alot of wahh wahhh ibogaine didn't fix me from peeps I know who have done ibo. if I was a junkie I'd def go for the tripping my a-- off detox.
@RainbowMelting LOl, not sure you have the right terminology for psychopath but he is probably behind in mental age. he seems socially normal, for a long time heroin addict
@nederviking78 It does. If you really want to quit smoking. Besides, after an ibogaine session, the first few days (if one is a smoker), the cigarettes taste awful.
To all you people with anecdotes of failed ibogaine treatment: no one cares. Your story proves nothing, no one claims it has a 100% success rate. You are crazy to conclude that ibogaine is "not a cure" or "hyped about nothing" because it wasn't successful for you.
@dfogel525 O course is not a cure u moron lol. Thats a typical junkie way of thinking. I myself went the ibogaine path and let me tell you if you give it between 2-6 months it will wear off and your back to your shithole junkie way. Matter of fact ibogaine fucks your receptors so bad that once it wears off your easily prone to some hardcore depression. Why do you think it's not so popular around the world? why do so many people relapse half a year down the road? sorry but your false and twat.
"It doesn't come from a laboratory but from an ancient plant."
That's a strike against? What the hell is wrong with the media in this country? Oh yeah, pharmaceutical companies spend advertising dollars, plants don't.
@14Vettes I think its all hyped about nothing. I did the ibogaine treatment too but i had symptoms coming back to me all the time. In my opinion it only takes away some early symptoms. I was taking suboxone for a couple of years and it did take away little bit of the first withdrawals but it stil sucked later. I dont think ibogaine works to to take away your addiction or what comes months later. I wouldnt wast my dollars again on this. Maybe for hydros and darvocets it can work but not suboxone.
@somethingoriginal2 I think addicts are just crazy wanting a way out of their junkie lifestyle. I tried this ibogaine and let me tell you its not cure or a way out. I dont know about opiates like hydros and darvs but for suboxone (which i was taking) and methadone it doesnt help much. You will still feel some sort of withdrawals a couple of months later. I think thats why the goverment don't legalize it. Stop looking for a way out and deal with your addiction. Thats how i overcame it, not iboga.
@SonyaOOOlights I'm sorry for your experience. Most people need to switch to a short acting opiate for several weeks before taking ibogaine. Additionally, many people really should be using boosters. My guess is you've only taken the drug one time. For many the effects wear off making a single administration minimally beneficial. I find Ibogaine very beneficial. However, I've had one flood dose and 9 boosters. Of course a clinic would not tell you to do this, but boosters are important.
@helpforaddiction As mattef of fact I took boosters in low doses TA iboga for 2 months, some daily and some once a week. If your willing to take them everyday of your life then so be it, but thats not a path I want do go down on. The iboga wears off in time and your all bu worse for it, trust me on this. Everything is all rosy for a few months to half a year until it wears off, it destroys your brain, boosters only give you 3 days of relief. Why dont u see people after 1 year who took iboga?
@helpforaddiction Maybe because they all relapse? maybe they just dont want to admit the iboga failed in the long run? i have not seen anybody who took iboga be clean after 1 year. Either they're doing flood doses every 5 months or boosters for life. It doesnt work am telling you. If anything you'll get depressed for life after 4-6 months. It destroys your receptors. Some sites claiming to sell iboga actually mix LSD and chemicals where you see African tribes lol, its all a scam. Believe me.
@helpforaddiction You shouldnt be given advise since you only did it for helping out your mental state as you said in you video and people dont have the money to do it two three times and why wouldnt a clinic tell you something are they trust worthy. the only thing you seemed to get right was that the clinic in villa serena is a rip off.
@1968bigcity I was still suffering from post acute withdrawal. I used it for addiction. It doesn't matter where I was in my recovery. You don't have to go to a clinic to get it repeatedly. I recommend obtaining ibogaine yourself and using boosters as needed. A clinic is recommended for a flood dose because there some obvious risks associated with taking large amounts of ibogaine. I don't feel that boosters are risky like that. I do around 500 mg of the TA every 4-06 weeks. 1 gram costs $76.
@helpforaddiction ive ordered from that place you mentioned, iboga world and they wont sell enough to do a big enough dose, they sell just enough so you dont get your self into trouble, ive done it three times all at clinics so i know what amount they will let you have. peoples best bet is going to africa to gabon but i know thats not possible for most addicts. thanks for the info
@1968bigcity How much do you think you need? They have package deals for large orders. You can get 10 grams of the HCL for 165 dollars per gram. You could also get 10 grams of the TA for 56 dollars per gram. You'll no doubt need a large amount if you're currently using, but obtaining it shouldn't be a problem. I know a girl who obtained a lot of it from iboga world and did it with her boyfriend. She took 1.5 grams of the HCL and 1.2 grams of the TA. Definitely a lot.
There will be no funding forthcoming for this drug. It is a naturallly occuring substance that the big pharmaceutical companies didn't synthesize. So they can't make any money from it. They will lobby the government to suppress the development of this treatment. America the beautiful.
I need this! I have been chronically depressed for 15 years and dependent on medicinal marijuana. I have not turned to other drugs but the depression is causing me to feel I should look for other options whether it be better or worse. This treatment is practiced in Mexico?
@MattyTheMole ur an idiot just stop smoking it don't waste peoples time and grow some balls and self control...you think its painful to quit weed in comparison to opiates u are sad
First THC, and now this? Another natural substance found in the plants of mother nature that has enormously promising implications on health, medicine, and our understanding of the human body... but oh wait, the government says this plant is illegal too. Never mind, everyone go back to your guns and alcohol. This other stuff is just WAY to dangerous to mess around with...
@iv81 This is upsetting to me because a person with an opiate problem may see your words, and take it as fact. Iboga is the only medicine known to man to stop heroin withdrawal with no depression, no opiate sickness, and no cravings. DMT does NOT do any of that. Not even close. I'm happy you like DMT, but it has nothing in common with the Iboga alkaloids. I politely plead with you, please don't tell people they are similar. It is incorrect, and may actually do damage to people. Please dont
@ibogahelp the only place I've told that was here but I removed my post and will do more research before posting it elsewhere, thank you for taking the time to explain to me.
@ibogahelp I agree in one sense that they are completely different. However I highly doubt that an opiate addict wouldn't know the difference between DMT and Iboga. Even if one did not, and decided to smoke it without any previous knowledge of it's effects, DMT is one of the least harmful/dangerous drugs on earth. Mentally speaking, it may open your eyes to truths you never knew existed and hit you with an incomprehensible ego check. But you're correct that it's no cure for opiate addiction.
Also, the government is NOT right for banning any drug. The war on drugs began on a stack of lies and propaganda. An example being president Nixon telling one of his researchers to alter marijuana studies to reflect badly. This has cost the US 1 trillion alone, and imprisoned 15 million individuals. As of today the drug war has resulted in ruthless drug cartels, violence, and a waste of budget. You can't depend on the government to tell you what substance is safe to put in your body.
@Raelsatu I dont believe Goverment bans it for money, it bans it cuz it's truly dangerous and not comfirmed to be a cure. I think folks just blame goverments, use an excuse, addicts/junkies will blame anyone and anything. Its a reason why things like ibogaine are banned. In most civilized countries it's banned, that tells u a lot. I knw 6 other ppl who took ibogaine hcl and bark and it didnt do nothing for them. Its all in the head, trust me. Waste of money for 2 days of no withdrawals. Bye guys
@easynowww And as I implied in my other comment, folks don't "blame" the government for criminalizing drugs. The government is to be blamed because for one, most drugs especially entheogens are safe when done properly. Shrooms, marijuana, and DMT are a few amazing examples. Yet they're Schedule 1 because the government considers hallucinogens to be the most dangerous/useless. When in fact it's the total opposite. Ontop of being an illogical prohibition, the war on drugs is a complete failure.
@Raelsatu Also how do we know they are safe? is that why we did heroin in the first place? or took opiates? drugs? cuz we thought they were safe, this is in-denial thinking, its so easy blaming the goverment while we dont blame ourselves. Ive known folks to kick meth and sub and other addictions only to live a long happy sober life, as this addict said once if ur generally weak then ur always fail & be an addict, but if u choose 2 be strong u'll pass & not need treaments.
@Raelsatu Also fact is ibogaine didnt work for me and I know abt 6 more ppl personally who it didnt work for and 2 ppl i know died, i dont know them personally but i know who they are in real-life. They never had heart problems or underling issues, the doctors or medical staff who did their treatment quit their job and never work with ibogaine again. If 1 can stay clean for few months then they can stay clean 4 life. It didnt work on me, simple as that. my experience. Am out of this debate 4good
I had Ibogaine treatment in the Netherlands in Leiden in June 1993 together with my girlfriend, and she died during the treatment!!! We were treated by Howard Lotsof and his "team" supervised by Prof.Jan Bastiaans from the University of Leiden. The only thing they cared about was making money, and to get famous!!! After she died, they falsefied the facts which led to here death, and spread the word she had been taking heroine during the treatment !!! This wasn't true, !!!
It's actually an insult to nature and our existence that the government considers this a schedule 1 drug. Ibogaine, DMT, weed, and shrooms should all be legal and respected drugs. They're not even close to the same as H, meth, cocaine, or alcohol. They're psychedelic gifts that are of complete magic and unexplainable wonder, that authorities have deemed "bad" for other people. Infact they do the complete opposite of bad. This reality can be so so sad. Give the addicts ibogaine! Logic please.
@Raelsatu It didnt work for me, i was on methadone and then suboxone and ibogaine sure didnt do shit for me, if anything made it worse, its all money making schemes, governments are right to ban it, its to dangereous, i nearly died and am I have NOT problems at all. Withdrawals of suboxone came back again 3 weeks later, i was puking like mad, was going out of my wits, i waited and waited and nothing changed, couldnt sleep and was anxious, so i went back on methadone, am just goingto wean off.
@easynowww I'm sorry to hear that. ={ However, if you think Ibogaine is a moneymaking scheme, that's wrong. If you think it's a dangerous drug, I can't say I have extensive knowledge of the pharmacology but I'm nearly positive it's NOT life-threatening. Methadone and sub are both just as bad avenues to take as any other opioid, except they're prescribed and pretty easy to obtain. You may be able to ease your withdrawals with kratom leaf/extract;
@Raelsatu But it is LIFE-THREATING..1/5 people die..Many deaths have occured and many more we don't know about. I thought I was going to die..I truly believe it's a lot of exgerration this ibogaine treatment. They say to take it when u've been clean for a while i.e 3 months over, but in another month or 2 u feel better anyway. I did the treatment 2 months later and still felt depressed for 1 month. All it did was take away withdrawals for 2 days, then back to square 1. Sum1 wnt bak 2 heroin.
@easynowww According to myeboga, there's 1 Ibogaine-related death/427 TEs. There is 1 methadone-related death /364 TEs. So it's understandable people who are addicted would rather take 1 dose of Ibo and risk it than take countless doses of Methadone with a higher risk every single time they dose. What do you say about all the people who actually DO feel saved because of their treatment? It's a shame your addiction has hold of your life, and I truly hope you can get through it.
@Raelsatu I have not met anyone personally who took ibogaine and was clean for 6 months, Only on the net I seen but some of them turned out to be practioners lmao. So I don't believe half the stuff on the net of people. All I can give is my own proof. Also if ppl are already clean for few months and take ibogaine then wat is the use? its all mind games, hypnotizm things, if they can get clean from iboga then they can clean without it, how come for so many ppl it didnt work, am on abt real life.
I am not a drug addict , but I need to experience this . This "mild hallucinogen " is actually the strongest trip known to human beings where many people speak to their dead ancestors . I think we need to be exposed to a deeper reality . Ayahuasca and ibogaine could be the answer .
I just kicked a 4 year opiate addiction, I was on 60mg methadone, 2 days after cold turkey I ate a large dose of ibogaine spent the next 4 days there and now im home, I smoked some good weed my Mom gave me haha I have no cravings or thoughts about methadone or anything. I havnt felt this good or looked this good in YEARS !
Dr Sola ran the clinic this is their web site w w w treataddictionright . com AVOID them!
There were 3 of us and they severely under dosed us with what was suppose to be "Ibogaine HCL" but it was not off-white it was BROWN like an extract would be. Then we were given barley 12mg/kg which was too low as we all had massive painful withdrawal symptoms which were NOT related to the potential effects of ibogaine. Even though they saw that we were in withdrawal they did not give us any boosters.
The Ibogaine treatment protocol dictates patients who show withdrawal symptoms should be given booster doses and people with high opiate tolerance should receive higher amounts of Ibogaine, we were barely given a threshold amount and of questionable quality. At our level of opiate use we should have received AT LEAST 15-24mg/kg.
In correspondence with Dr Mash, she said her "standard doses are 850mg" and she has never had any complaints... we asked for a GC/MS and have had no reply.
Yes, Ibogaine works wonders but the clinic is a complete scam, DR Mash is a scam and charged us $7,000 each per person to stay at a rented house in Cancun Mexico. We were fed no food but rotten food and were not allowed to leave. The doctors and nurses were rude and uncompassionate. It was only our resolve to get the treatment to stay until we received the drug. We left 2 days early while they tried to restrict our phone calls preventing our plans to leave.
It would be nice if I could acquire Iboga. I've struggled quitting cigarettes over the years and heard there has been great success with this medicine. Also, the spiritual effects of iboga might help my appreciation of every day life (I struggle with depression). I'm dependent upon the anti-depressant Effexor and the withdrawals are terrible if I don't take it. I want to continue to live, but not be dependent on nasty antidepressants and deadly cigarettes. It's illegal here in America =(
this should be legal in the US, in the meantime try Kratom to beat any addiction, especially opiates, but including alcohol along with AA, it did the trick for me personally! KRATOM legal in US and most other places
Man this shit sounds Amazing! Ive heard a little bit about it in the past! I have been Fight Herion/Opiate addiction for the past 5 years and it is by far the hardest thing i have ever done! Ive tried the MEthadone, Suboxone, Subutext, Rehab, Im in Intensive Out Patient Right now it helps But damn! Ill be good for weeks or a couple of months and the cravings just over take me! I know it makes me sound week But anybody thats a true Addict out there can feel my pain! I would love to see this Legal
@axeman669 Dude, you're worthless. Just end it all. You can't even spell properly, what purpose are you serving being alive? You're a burden on yourself, your family and society. Just OD, for the sake of mankind. Your weak kind isn't needed, you should have thought about this shit before you started doing drugs. Now you're fucked :)
@kamaljotsdhaliwal haha yeah i should just OD...you shoud just die your kind is a discrace to mankind...You get on a drug related vid. and dog people that have a problem! your cool...i would wish some kind of addiction on u but i wouldnt do that! u obviously dont know what its like to get crazy addicted to something! You never know ur kids or u even still are capable of being at the mercy of this disease!! so fuck u man! :)
i just want to be free you know, ive spent 10 yrs trying and im still trying even though in my heart, i know, and to know there is a way but the powers that be are telling me no you cant have it, if it was them theyd have a diff view, how can someone tell me i cant have my life, hvae control of my own body once again, i would do anything in the world for that chance,
i cant see this ever ending, but i cant stop trying either
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A chemical is a chemical, even if it comes from a plant. If I make sugar in a test tube or I extract it from sugar cane, it's still sucrose, C12H22O11. The exact same molecule.
Once again, I would like to go on record to say that what YouTube has done to the comments sucks, sucks, sucks. You can't tell what is a reply to what. Please, YouTube, pretty please with ibogaine on top: PUT IT BACK!
Hippies knew about ibogaine 25 years ago...ya just can never find it.
PrecisionTieDye 1 week ago
we can no longer trust our future to the hands of poloticians,law makers,and pharmaceutical corps.we must take our health into our own hands.prohibition is only a money ploy
jacmunbong 1 month ago
Its so stupid that the DEA thinks of it as if it is as dangerous as the heroin it cures!
Bigdawgphilleep 1 month ago
I love how they keep saying mild hallucinations. I've heard it's nus!
GaryEddyOnline 2 months ago
4:58 "Ibogaine is simply the best treatment available to help end addiction to opiates like heroin and cocaine..."
Iamcartmanxd 2 months ago
cocaine yeah the most dangerious "opiate" I can think of hahaha shows how much the media knows.
deezmuthafahkingnuts 6 days ago
Well... this was in 2007.
Ibogaine is completelly ilegal now because Metadon makes a lot of money to the "legal drugs" factories... (i hope my english is understandable)
Grumf1975 3 months ago
i like how they say a heroin addict discovered it right after saying it came from an ancient plant.
sirswish26 3 months ago
@sirswish26 They meant to say that the junkie discovered it's usefulness towards curing addiction.
Iamcartmanxd 2 months ago
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Lookagainz 3 months ago
I treat ppl with obegaine, it does occupy the parts of the brain that feels WD's and u still have the WD's u just don't realize it, it is a mild trip and yes is mild compared with LSD but still a strong drug,a lot has to come from within the addict, they must want to stop aswell, I have ppl text or send cards at Xmas sayin ty so can't say it doesn't work, there is a lot of SHIT on the market claiming to be the real mc coy, be sure before taking
thestaunt 4 months ago
I notice that nobody has referred to "the Bwiti." That is the being many claim to encounter while under the effects of ibogaine. Yes. I did encounter the Bwiti.
At the risk of sounding insane, I will tell the truth anyway. I didn't see this being mind you. I felt its presence. It lasted about five seconds. It was amazing.
It didn't cure me of addiction though. Sowwy.
Anntelope 4 months ago
Another thing - Ibogaine is NOT a mild experience. The Africans who have used it for years say "It cracks your skull. You go and you come back." It is a HEAVY experience. The first sensation is that you lose all desire to move and then your hearing grows acute and you mainly just lie there. Some people hallucinate wildly and these can vary from wonderful to terrifying to just plain tedious. My experience was rather tedious although I had a few interesting moments. Howard Lotsoff - RIP.
Anntelope 4 months ago
I took Ibogaine in the mid nineties. I will never regret my experience but I can not in good conscience say it's a cure nor did it provide me with a pain free withdrawal either. I will just say this. I'm sixty seven years old and I've done it all from rehabs
including Synanon and Daytop to Methadone programs to Ibogaine to you name it.
My opinion is that there's no magic pill.
Anntelope 4 months ago
Pisses me off that this stuff is illegal... It's so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.
TranceTechnoSucks 5 months ago
you don't need psychiatrists and the toxins they sell, this is all you need.
movadoband 5 months ago
It's Also Sad; listen to Dr.Debra: "when I first heard of it, I didn't believe and though it was something that needed to be debunked..." that is a scientist holding onto 'beliefs', instead practicing science they worship scientificism, just like the average 'man of faith' they fight so hard against. This type of obscurantism of the part of 'mainstream science' is frankly deplorable and plain unacceptable.
egyptianminor 5 months ago
@egyptianminor Announcer's full of shit @ 5:02 when he says 'opiates as heroin and cocaine'. Cocaine is not an opiate: what all these drugs -opiates, speed, coke, alcohol, barbiturates -have in common is that they're either primarily depressants or stimulants of the Central Nervous System, unlike Cannabis and Psychedelics in general.
egyptianminor 5 months ago
@egyptianminor That's a really good point there.
davidgrahamscott 4 months ago
Not everyone who takes opiates is a junkie. Many of us are hard working, successful people that got caught in the pain killer web. Such a terrible problem with no way out. Ibogaine could save so many lives. Bullshit it's not available here.
dorianjames100 5 months ago
@dorianjames100 Good point you put there! Go to Mexico or Europe to do it if need be. Good luck.
davidgrahamscott 4 months ago
Should be legal. Only real answer for an opiate problem.
dorianjames100 5 months ago
where are the news reports about DMT?
ninjamonky7 6 months ago
"Opiates like Heroin and Cocaine" Last I checked, Cocaine came from the Coca plant... Soundbyte fail.
pyrocrazzy2 6 months ago
PLEASE BE ADVISED. NOT a miracle cure for addiction; NOTHING mild about it. Beware of anyone who talks about govt conspiring with pharm industry to keep YOU addicted. Addicts are easy to scam and often enjoy blaming systemic causes for personal problems. If you MUST seek this treatment know that YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR LIFE in the hands of an unauthorized practitioner utilizing a highly dangerous, untested treatment modality.
augustusnath444 6 months ago
@pervertedpenguin...AMEN F#%k the fda
awwyup06 6 months ago
withdrawls = UUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHH
StickyInADarkBlueCut 6 months ago
Ibogaine is illegal because pharmaceutical companies would lose money on methadone sales. it's all about money and greed. fight the system
pervertedpenguin69 7 months ago 10
@pervertedpenguin69 OUR DAMN government. Our own military sending the opium shit in here from afghanastan and then busting ppl for using the shit. WHAT IS WRONG HERE? LET PPL GET THIS AND LEAVE THEM ALONE. SO what if it cam from the underground. If the FDA can't make $-(pharm.co's etc..)they ban it! sick.
keliciousify 1 month ago
I've heard that in a few cases Ibogaine doesn't work, or just works temporarily. That may be the case, but if this substance has the ability to do what some people claim it does, it needs to be investigated. So what if the success rate is only like 80% (don't know the actual statistics)? That is still amazing and this substance is worthy of study.
Glozey 7 months ago
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Solarlad 7 months ago
The confusing area for me was whenever I got off opiates in the past and subutex I only had depression for a few weeks and it was pretty mild, but with ibogaine I was almost 2 months into deep depression. I know it had a lot to do with ibogaine, the strenght of the depressin was bad too. The cravings only went for 2 days, thats bullshit, am not going to waste so many dollars just to cover me 2 days and suddenly get hit with some bad depression. Its garbage, but this is my experience.
Solarlad 7 months ago
@Solarlad Right on dude. Thank you for being open about your experiences. I went through opiate withdrawal with NOTHING to help me (after nearly six months of shooting 20 - 30 pills a day) and at the end of that I felt as if I had just crawled out of the 9th circle of Hell. The depression was the worst. Bedridden for weeks and couldn't eat. Contemplated suicide. I don't think Ibogaine is the cure for addiction in all cases but it definitely needs to be studied.
Glozey 7 months ago
I did it twice and both times I relapsed, because of depression and lingering shitty withdrawals. I was however on subutex & meth too. Many have the same experience as me where you feel on top of the world for a couple of day but then you slide down, basically withdrawals come later to you, the depression is the worst lot. I dont trust ibogain to be honest. Whole lot of garbage if you ask me. The vivid dreams and visions arent all that exciting, if your naive then you will be affected by them.
Solarlad 7 months ago
DR DREW WAS QUOTED SAYING THAT AT LEAST 25 OF HIS PATIENTS TRIED IT AND DIDNT WORK FOR THEM PLUS THEIR MOOD AND PERSONALITY WAS WORSE OFF AFTERWARDS. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CHARLIE SHEENS EX WANTING TO GO TO MEXICO TO DO IT BUT GOT SCARED. DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST CAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT COME BACK, THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE GIVING IT AND DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH TO GIVE.
1968bigcity 7 months ago
At first i thought ibogaine was the real deal but after three treatments over a year and a half, each time the withdrawals came back. I did it with dimitri in jersey, i did it with clare in mexico and got ibogaine through sara in amsterdam. The withdrawals came back even worse oh and the depression that came with it. This is just my experience with it. Do your research .
1968bigcity 7 months ago
cocaine isnt an opiate
TomGutta1 7 months ago
NUMBER UR ASS BICH
navuta 8 months ago
Good news, but it's a shame they are proliferating lies. There HAS been much research and study on ibogaine. this compound in Amerikkka is the brain-child of Howard Lotsof, who is a great scientist and has made leaps and bounds in te field of research.
YahtefKayi 8 months ago
5:00 Cocaine is not an opiate you fucking idiot!!!!!!
OGOTENKSO 8 months ago
At first i thought ibogaine was the real deal but after three treatments over a year and a half, each time the withdrawals came back. I did it with dimitri in jersey, i did it with clare in mexico and got ibogaine through sara in amsterdam. The withdrawals came back even worse oh and the depression that came with it. This is just my experience with it. give a thumbs up if yours was the same so others will know.
1968bigcity 8 months ago
@1968bigcity You're so full of shit, just fuck off and quit spreading your bullshit lies about how this wonderful drug doesn't work.
xbradx11 8 months ago
@xbradx11 Why would i lie about something that worked, but im going to tell people it didnt work. If it was so wonderful why are there so many others saying the same thing . "brad"
1968bigcity 8 months ago
@1968bigcity Sorry to say everytime you get addicted the physical detox gets worse no two ways about it,I have done heroine for 18 yrs, At first I would only get a small amt of both symptoms and severity and everytime I used enuff to get a habit the detox became longer with increasing numbers of symptoms along with the decreasing the time needed to get re-addicted finally I got to where 1-2 days in a row I had physical withdrawl, and having to fix every 4-6 hrs not the 24 hrs it was before.
cottonfever1221 7 months ago
@1968bigcity Sorry to say everytime you get addicted the physical detox gets worse no two ways about it,I have done heroine for 18 yrs, At first I would only get a small amt of both symptoms and severity and everytime I used enuff to get a habit the detox became longer with increasing numbers of symptoms along with the decreasing the time needed to get re-addicted finally I got to where 1-2 days in a row I had physical withdrawls and fixing every 4-6 hrs;un-like the 24 hrs it took before.
cottonfever1221 7 months ago
@ the guy that said it did not work for him.Unfortunately there are providers that aren't worth a shit. . For methadone there is a straight up protocol to follow you should have been given a couple of "boosters to take home in case that happens. I am a provider, mine is 99% pure,we follow protocol..drugabuserehabinfo,net
cwconcord 8 months ago
@cwconcord Dont private message me and say you punk ass bitch and your a provider.Yea right, YOUR A BULLSHITTER... tell me that to my face and see whos a punkass, YOU BITCH....
1968bigcity 8 months ago
Ibogaine wasn't discovered by a junkie, it had been used for generations by different tribes in the area of which it grew as a cleanser of the mind and body.
OnlineGuitarCraze 8 months ago
The Government (or its associates) has and will be doing whatever they can do to debunk this. The medical field will lose a lot of money. If I were working for them, I would do everything to eliminate all those plants. It would be bad for business.......and I'm an idiot.
1977wallace 9 months ago
this is @cwg138 I took ibogaine 4 years ago through the underground in San Fran. It worked great.I need to take it again,I went through a surgery and had to take hard pain meds for 6 months,pains gone,I'm strung again.I will only do ibogaine, fuck all that suboxen bullshit,or tough it out.sorry i kicked 5 yr methadone run in 86 never again,write me @cwconcord@hotmail....please put ibogaine i'm in san diego need helping hand
cwconcord 9 months ago
I also took iboga for methadone addiction but am living proof it did NOT work me. After about 3 days of being clean and no withdrawals the extreme withdrawals came and so did paws i.e post acute withdrawal syndrome. Infact I have taken it twice and twice the withdrawals crippled with depression hit me really hard. Am sorry but it does not work for drug addicts, it all it does is eliminate 1 or 2 withdrawals but only for a few days to weeks. Its much worse for suboxone and methadone addicts.
Solarlad 8 months ago 2
@Solarlad I used it to come off of methadone as well. Methadone stays in the system for so long that withdrawl come back. At that point, a tiny bit can be used as withdrawls come back to mostly elimate them. I'm over 8 months off of methadone now, (after being on it for years) and have absolutely no cravings....
masterkind420 8 months ago
I was an opiate addict for 10 years, heroin for 5. Tried methadone, waste of time, longer withdrawl, just a bit cheaper and legal is all. I had to get back on heroin just to kick the long methadone WD. Then I tried a bunch of things again.Then I discovered Ibogaine from a concerned friend. One heavy dose was all I needed no WD. And after "the awakening" I didnt crave opiates anymore. It's like it hit the reset button on my brain and NT's. Look into it now, not sure how legal is going to stay.
cwg138 9 months ago
Cocaine isn't an opiate.
richardgaas 9 months ago
Even coming off heroin alone, withdrawal effects can linger for weeks. 5 days is complete horseshit! Maybe after 5 days the vomiting stops and the cramps stop. After 5 days, the euphoria of feeling the acute phase coming to an end can make you feel 'better'. Let me assure you, it aint over. It took me about 4 weeks before I felt ok, and MONTHS before I could say I was at ease and untroubled by restlessness or cravings. I heard Ibogaine is as much a spiritual experience and cure as anything else.
1977JFish 9 months ago
I fear that addiction will spread more than it is now cause ppl will think of it like "hey they invented something to not be addicted to heroin, lets chase dragons during some weeks and get fucked up, if we get hooked then ill go on plan b Ibogaine..."
I was addicted to codeine for almost a year everyday, thanks to weed im off that shit.
sZeRo0Xx 11 months ago
@sZeRo0Xx So you got off codeine by smoking weed, but you're afraid of people using ibogaine to get off drugs? Not sure that's a consistent position.
lormendi 11 months ago 2
@lormendi nope, im not affraid of ibogaine, im pro ibogaine to get addicts of drugs, but lormendi you sure understand that now that there is a "cure" against addiction ppl will lose this "get hooked" fear and more ppl will get into drugs because there is already a cure.
Ibogaine = mild hallucinagene like weed is. :)
sZeRo0Xx 11 months ago
@sZeRo0Xx Ibogaine is not a mild hallucinogen. Trust me on that, there is nothing mild about it at all.
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SonyaOOOlights 10 months ago
@SonyaOOOlights 1-2 weeks respite is enough to get over the most sever withdrawal symptoms, and even those who administer the Ibogaine itself emphasize the need for follow up visits to the doctor and counseling. Nobody ever claimed it was a miracle drug, only that it helps a lot, and it does.
Malice197 10 months ago
@Malice197 You are obviously totally unqualified to make these comments - Maybe a medical student, doctor, or drug worker? Someone whose experience lies in theory only.
Come to the long term programme where I have been working for two years, study the data, and observe for yourself. Withdrawal symptoms for Methadone can last for considerably more than 2 weeks, Suboxone or Subutex also. I have detoxed from these drugs myself, and it was about 3 months before I got normal sleep.
1977JFish 9 months ago
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SonyaOOOlights 10 months ago 2
@SonyaOOOlights That sucks that you're PAWS are so severe. Some people are simply doomed for eternity. I feel you maybe one of these people. It's doubtful anything will work for you except death. You probably won't have any PAWS then. There are ways to die now rather than wait until old age. If you would like to learn more about some of these methods, please let me know. Until then enjoy your addiction. Have a wonderful drug addicted day!
helpforaddiction 10 months ago
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SonyaOOOlights 10 months ago
@SonyaOOOlights I am confused. Are you saying you feel ibogaine does or does not work for suboxone and methadone? I've heard many say it's much harder to treat addiction to long acting opiates than short acting. The people you mention that relapsed did so because they are fuck ups. That's the reason anybody relapses and that's got nothing to do with ibogaine. Ibogaine is simply a tool that many find helpful, but necessarily everybody. By the way, I don't make any money with ibogaine.
helpforaddiction 10 months ago
Oh yea kroupa was part of a herion smuggling cartel as of 2005. It was busted.
micturate3 11 months ago
Please read about Patrick Kroupa at wikipedia. He is a sef confeced career addict bipolar pschizophrenic psycopath attention seeking gay faggot rich punk and more whom thrives on attention. He is lord somebody in his mind he says and travels wordwide as a paid spokeserson for dr mashpotatoes and her campaign for fame. He is relasped to date and i find him totaly uncreditable as an ibogaine advocate!!!!
micturate3 11 months ago
@micturate3 I read the wiki article, and your characterization of him based on that Wiki entry is woefully shitty. How do YOU know he has relapsed? Do you know him personally?
lormendi 11 months ago
People die while going through heart surgery. Does that mean hospital should be forbidden from performing heart surgery?
vnohagibis 11 months ago
I also went to Miami to participate in the FDA human clinical trials with Ibogaine, led by Dr.Juan Sanchez-Ramos and Dr.Deborah Mash! They wanted me to paticipate because I was the last person who had been treated with Ibogaine in the Netherlands, because after my Girlfriend died the rest of the patients had to leave. Dr. Mash also onlywants fame and fortune, because she tried to led the tests go through, although she knew I had serious liver disease. Finally Dr. Ramos forbid her ton do it.
Millmannetje 11 months ago
@Millmannetje Do you have anything to back up your story, beyond being some anonymous guy on the internet? I am sorry to hear about your girlfriend, and thats terrible.
lormendi 11 months ago
Gotta love FDA money making BS!! DOWN WITH THE FED!!
Vatoaztecas 11 months ago 2
how can i get this stuff ibogaine?tried everything this could chane my any many others lives whats the matter with this country banning it, i dont want to even say why i think they dont awnt people to kick hard core narcotics ,it sickins me no addicts do you know how many jobs would be lost ,screw them our lives are more important then there paychecks,whats wrong with this country n law enforcement oh then they have to go after real criminals not beat up on helpless addicts n get paid for it wow
robielv 1 year ago
holy shit, so anyone else realize that the heroin addict guy is Bill Hicks reincarnated?
hitoki1354 1 year ago 87
@hitoki1354 pretty much, patrick kroupa is a really interesting psychopath, not real sure he's a typical result though. mostly i hear alot of wahh wahhh ibogaine didn't fix me from peeps I know who have done ibo. if I was a junkie I'd def go for the tripping my a-- off detox.
RainbowMelting 1 year ago
@hitoki1354 pretty much. patrick kroupa is a interesting psychopath
RainbowMelting 1 year ago 74
@RainbowMelting LOl, not sure you have the right terminology for psychopath but he is probably behind in mental age. he seems socially normal, for a long time heroin addict
kiastar67 3 months ago
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@hitoki1354 pretty much.patrick kroupa is a similar psycho
RainbowMelting 1 year ago
@hitoki1354
a little bit, but Bill was an alcoholic. They have some similarities, looks-wise, though! RIP, Bill. <3
np1225 7 months ago
@hitoki1354 Ha..I know Patrick and he is a bit like that in real life. Great guy!!
davidgrahamscott 4 months ago
@nederviking78 It does. If you really want to quit smoking. Besides, after an ibogaine session, the first few days (if one is a smoker), the cigarettes taste awful.
AciDBianka 1 year ago
Unfortunately the pharmaceutical industry can't patent this plant. It's no wonder I haven't heard from it.
zackdelarocha8 1 year ago 14
i heard it's a very powerful life changing experiance, more powerful than lsd.
renzokata 1 year ago
@mate6mty I went from Sweden to the Czech Republic to do it since its illegal in Sweden. What a journey. Holy shit :P
kimpakatt 1 year ago
To all you people with anecdotes of failed ibogaine treatment: no one cares. Your story proves nothing, no one claims it has a 100% success rate. You are crazy to conclude that ibogaine is "not a cure" or "hyped about nothing" because it wasn't successful for you.
dfogel525 1 year ago
@dfogel525 O course is not a cure u moron lol. Thats a typical junkie way of thinking. I myself went the ibogaine path and let me tell you if you give it between 2-6 months it will wear off and your back to your shithole junkie way. Matter of fact ibogaine fucks your receptors so bad that once it wears off your easily prone to some hardcore depression. Why do you think it's not so popular around the world? why do so many people relapse half a year down the road? sorry but your false and twat.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
"It doesn't come from a laboratory but from an ancient plant."
That's a strike against? What the hell is wrong with the media in this country? Oh yeah, pharmaceutical companies spend advertising dollars, plants don't.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
I wonder if she ever tried it?
gahoonisme 1 year ago
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Government is crooked if they can't make mega b billions on something it's out. They make money off the underground drug world so you figure it out.
14Vettes 1 year ago
Government is crooked if they can't make mega b billions on something it's out. They make money off the underground drug world so you figure it out.
14Vettes 1 year ago
@14Vettes I think its all hyped about nothing. I did the ibogaine treatment too but i had symptoms coming back to me all the time. In my opinion it only takes away some early symptoms. I was taking suboxone for a couple of years and it did take away little bit of the first withdrawals but it stil sucked later. I dont think ibogaine works to to take away your addiction or what comes months later. I wouldnt wast my dollars again on this. Maybe for hydros and darvocets it can work but not suboxone.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
fuck the pharmaceutical companies fuck the government
somethingoriginal2 1 year ago
@somethingoriginal2 I think addicts are just crazy wanting a way out of their junkie lifestyle. I tried this ibogaine and let me tell you its not cure or a way out. I dont know about opiates like hydros and darvs but for suboxone (which i was taking) and methadone it doesnt help much. You will still feel some sort of withdrawals a couple of months later. I think thats why the goverment don't legalize it. Stop looking for a way out and deal with your addiction. Thats how i overcame it, not iboga.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
true true i know what you mean I just despise the pharmaceutical industry!!!!
somethingoriginal2 1 year ago
@SonyaOOOlights I'm sorry for your experience. Most people need to switch to a short acting opiate for several weeks before taking ibogaine. Additionally, many people really should be using boosters. My guess is you've only taken the drug one time. For many the effects wear off making a single administration minimally beneficial. I find Ibogaine very beneficial. However, I've had one flood dose and 9 boosters. Of course a clinic would not tell you to do this, but boosters are important.
helpforaddiction 1 year ago
@helpforaddiction As mattef of fact I took boosters in low doses TA iboga for 2 months, some daily and some once a week. If your willing to take them everyday of your life then so be it, but thats not a path I want do go down on. The iboga wears off in time and your all bu worse for it, trust me on this. Everything is all rosy for a few months to half a year until it wears off, it destroys your brain, boosters only give you 3 days of relief. Why dont u see people after 1 year who took iboga?
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
@helpforaddiction Maybe because they all relapse? maybe they just dont want to admit the iboga failed in the long run? i have not seen anybody who took iboga be clean after 1 year. Either they're doing flood doses every 5 months or boosters for life. It doesnt work am telling you. If anything you'll get depressed for life after 4-6 months. It destroys your receptors. Some sites claiming to sell iboga actually mix LSD and chemicals where you see African tribes lol, its all a scam. Believe me.
SonyaOOOlights 1 year ago
@helpforaddiction You shouldnt be given advise since you only did it for helping out your mental state as you said in you video and people dont have the money to do it two three times and why wouldnt a clinic tell you something are they trust worthy. the only thing you seemed to get right was that the clinic in villa serena is a rip off.
1968bigcity 1 year ago
@1968bigcity I was still suffering from post acute withdrawal. I used it for addiction. It doesn't matter where I was in my recovery. You don't have to go to a clinic to get it repeatedly. I recommend obtaining ibogaine yourself and using boosters as needed. A clinic is recommended for a flood dose because there some obvious risks associated with taking large amounts of ibogaine. I don't feel that boosters are risky like that. I do around 500 mg of the TA every 4-06 weeks. 1 gram costs $76.
helpforaddiction 1 year ago
@helpforaddiction ive ordered from that place you mentioned, iboga world and they wont sell enough to do a big enough dose, they sell just enough so you dont get your self into trouble, ive done it three times all at clinics so i know what amount they will let you have. peoples best bet is going to africa to gabon but i know thats not possible for most addicts. thanks for the info
1968bigcity 1 year ago
@1968bigcity How much do you think you need? They have package deals for large orders. You can get 10 grams of the HCL for 165 dollars per gram. You could also get 10 grams of the TA for 56 dollars per gram. You'll no doubt need a large amount if you're currently using, but obtaining it shouldn't be a problem. I know a girl who obtained a lot of it from iboga world and did it with her boyfriend. She took 1.5 grams of the HCL and 1.2 grams of the TA. Definitely a lot.
helpforaddiction 1 year ago
There will be no funding forthcoming for this drug. It is a naturallly occuring substance that the big pharmaceutical companies didn't synthesize. So they can't make any money from it. They will lobby the government to suppress the development of this treatment. America the beautiful.
droberts002 1 year ago
I need this! I have been chronically depressed for 15 years and dependent on medicinal marijuana. I have not turned to other drugs but the depression is causing me to feel I should look for other options whether it be better or worse. This treatment is practiced in Mexico?
MattyTheMole 1 year ago
@MattyTheMole ur an idiot just stop smoking it don't waste peoples time and grow some balls and self control...you think its painful to quit weed in comparison to opiates u are sad
opheliajade1986 1 year ago
First THC, and now this? Another natural substance found in the plants of mother nature that has enormously promising implications on health, medicine, and our understanding of the human body... but oh wait, the government says this plant is illegal too. Never mind, everyone go back to your guns and alcohol. This other stuff is just WAY to dangerous to mess around with...
asay636 1 year ago 23
this makes me sick the way they try to suppress this
somethingoriginal2 1 year ago
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iv81 1 year ago
@iv81 This is upsetting to me because a person with an opiate problem may see your words, and take it as fact. Iboga is the only medicine known to man to stop heroin withdrawal with no depression, no opiate sickness, and no cravings. DMT does NOT do any of that. Not even close. I'm happy you like DMT, but it has nothing in common with the Iboga alkaloids. I politely plead with you, please don't tell people they are similar. It is incorrect, and may actually do damage to people. Please dont
ibogahelp 1 year ago
@ibogahelp the only place I've told that was here but I removed my post and will do more research before posting it elsewhere, thank you for taking the time to explain to me.
iv81 1 year ago
@ibogahelp I agree in one sense that they are completely different. However I highly doubt that an opiate addict wouldn't know the difference between DMT and Iboga. Even if one did not, and decided to smoke it without any previous knowledge of it's effects, DMT is one of the least harmful/dangerous drugs on earth. Mentally speaking, it may open your eyes to truths you never knew existed and hit you with an incomprehensible ego check. But you're correct that it's no cure for opiate addiction.
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apportlst 1 year ago
this is good or bad?
i dont understand whats mean...
alexandrekocwb 1 year ago
Also, the government is NOT right for banning any drug. The war on drugs began on a stack of lies and propaganda. An example being president Nixon telling one of his researchers to alter marijuana studies to reflect badly. This has cost the US 1 trillion alone, and imprisoned 15 million individuals. As of today the drug war has resulted in ruthless drug cartels, violence, and a waste of budget. You can't depend on the government to tell you what substance is safe to put in your body.
Raelsatu 1 year ago
@Raelsatu I dont believe Goverment bans it for money, it bans it cuz it's truly dangerous and not comfirmed to be a cure. I think folks just blame goverments, use an excuse, addicts/junkies will blame anyone and anything. Its a reason why things like ibogaine are banned. In most civilized countries it's banned, that tells u a lot. I knw 6 other ppl who took ibogaine hcl and bark and it didnt do nothing for them. Its all in the head, trust me. Waste of money for 2 days of no withdrawals. Bye guys
easynowww 1 year ago
@easynowww And as I implied in my other comment, folks don't "blame" the government for criminalizing drugs. The government is to be blamed because for one, most drugs especially entheogens are safe when done properly. Shrooms, marijuana, and DMT are a few amazing examples. Yet they're Schedule 1 because the government considers hallucinogens to be the most dangerous/useless. When in fact it's the total opposite. Ontop of being an illogical prohibition, the war on drugs is a complete failure.
Raelsatu 1 year ago
@Raelsatu Also how do we know they are safe? is that why we did heroin in the first place? or took opiates? drugs? cuz we thought they were safe, this is in-denial thinking, its so easy blaming the goverment while we dont blame ourselves. Ive known folks to kick meth and sub and other addictions only to live a long happy sober life, as this addict said once if ur generally weak then ur always fail & be an addict, but if u choose 2 be strong u'll pass & not need treaments.
easynowww 1 year ago
@Raelsatu Also fact is ibogaine didnt work for me and I know abt 6 more ppl personally who it didnt work for and 2 ppl i know died, i dont know them personally but i know who they are in real-life. They never had heart problems or underling issues, the doctors or medical staff who did their treatment quit their job and never work with ibogaine again. If 1 can stay clean for few months then they can stay clean 4 life. It didnt work on me, simple as that. my experience. Am out of this debate 4good
easynowww 1 year ago
I had Ibogaine treatment in the Netherlands in Leiden in June 1993 together with my girlfriend, and she died during the treatment!!! We were treated by Howard Lotsof and his "team" supervised by Prof.Jan Bastiaans from the University of Leiden. The only thing they cared about was making money, and to get famous!!! After she died, they falsefied the facts which led to here death, and spread the word she had been taking heroine during the treatment !!! This wasn't true, !!!
Millmannetje 11 months ago
On objective report on the potential benefits of some drugs, by mainstream media?
joshuaoha 1 year ago
It's actually an insult to nature and our existence that the government considers this a schedule 1 drug. Ibogaine, DMT, weed, and shrooms should all be legal and respected drugs. They're not even close to the same as H, meth, cocaine, or alcohol. They're psychedelic gifts that are of complete magic and unexplainable wonder, that authorities have deemed "bad" for other people. Infact they do the complete opposite of bad. This reality can be so so sad. Give the addicts ibogaine! Logic please.
Raelsatu 1 year ago
@Raelsatu It didnt work for me, i was on methadone and then suboxone and ibogaine sure didnt do shit for me, if anything made it worse, its all money making schemes, governments are right to ban it, its to dangereous, i nearly died and am I have NOT problems at all. Withdrawals of suboxone came back again 3 weeks later, i was puking like mad, was going out of my wits, i waited and waited and nothing changed, couldnt sleep and was anxious, so i went back on methadone, am just goingto wean off.
easynowww 1 year ago
@easynowww I'm sorry to hear that. ={ However, if you think Ibogaine is a moneymaking scheme, that's wrong. If you think it's a dangerous drug, I can't say I have extensive knowledge of the pharmacology but I'm nearly positive it's NOT life-threatening. Methadone and sub are both just as bad avenues to take as any other opioid, except they're prescribed and pretty easy to obtain. You may be able to ease your withdrawals with kratom leaf/extract;
Raelsatu 1 year ago
@Raelsatu But it is LIFE-THREATING..1/5 people die..Many deaths have occured and many more we don't know about. I thought I was going to die..I truly believe it's a lot of exgerration this ibogaine treatment. They say to take it when u've been clean for a while i.e 3 months over, but in another month or 2 u feel better anyway. I did the treatment 2 months later and still felt depressed for 1 month. All it did was take away withdrawals for 2 days, then back to square 1. Sum1 wnt bak 2 heroin.
easynowww 1 year ago
@easynowww According to myeboga, there's 1 Ibogaine-related death/427 TEs. There is 1 methadone-related death /364 TEs. So it's understandable people who are addicted would rather take 1 dose of Ibo and risk it than take countless doses of Methadone with a higher risk every single time they dose. What do you say about all the people who actually DO feel saved because of their treatment? It's a shame your addiction has hold of your life, and I truly hope you can get through it.
Raelsatu 1 year ago
@Raelsatu I have not met anyone personally who took ibogaine and was clean for 6 months, Only on the net I seen but some of them turned out to be practioners lmao. So I don't believe half the stuff on the net of people. All I can give is my own proof. Also if ppl are already clean for few months and take ibogaine then wat is the use? its all mind games, hypnotizm things, if they can get clean from iboga then they can clean without it, how come for so many ppl it didnt work, am on abt real life.
easynowww 1 year ago
Yeah, there are cures to cancer but they are illegal in the US because our gov't is evil.
joejumps4fun 1 year ago
I am not a drug addict , but I need to experience this . This "mild hallucinogen " is actually the strongest trip known to human beings where many people speak to their dead ancestors . I think we need to be exposed to a deeper reality . Ayahuasca and ibogaine could be the answer .
MindofaJedi 1 year ago
MILDY hallucinegenic? try the grand daddy of all pycs
shmico 1 year ago
Proof that this government hates it's citizens.
rubbersole79 1 year ago
fight fire with fire! addicted to drugs? take drugs to cure it...
djstolenface 1 year ago
@djstolenface do they not fight cancer with radiation...which can cause cancer? duh
BeadTheFreak 1 year ago
@djstolenface ps. they DO fight fire with fire.
BeadTheFreak 1 year ago
can anyone help me find the easiest way to get some??? please im me. thank you. live in pa us.. help.
TrueColors311 1 year ago
i think this is a miraculous drug but the government make 2 much money on drug enforcement..its all about the mighty doller and pharmaceuticals.
johnconnor2004 1 year ago
There's no such thing as "marijuana" or Cannabis addiction, Anyone that believes this is ignorant of the facts.
A little LSA(HBWR seeds) will help you overcome your psychological dependence tho.
DackIsBack 1 year ago
Ibogaine has been used by Shamen for CENTURY'S.
Fucking study this shit- Or Remain IGNORANT, Just like the establishment wants you to so they can keep exploiting you.
Read Hunter S. Thompson, Read William S. Boroughs.
Desensitize yourself to the fucking propaganda, Drugs are not what you think they are.
Ibogane is just another "drug" like cannabis alcohol and cigarettes.
Most Illegal Drugs are SAFER than Alcohol and Tobacco when administered correctly.
DackIsBack 1 year ago
The Government doesn't give a fuck about drug addicts and drug abuse...
They WANT you to get addicted and consume drugs, They WANT artificially high crime rates.
Ibogaine is schedule 1, LSD is schedule 1 countless other psychedelics that Have Been PROVEN to help with addiction are schedule 1.
Cannabis helps people kick meth, People are twice as likely to stay off it if they substitute it with something mildly psychotropic.
DackIsBack 1 year ago
Mildy hallucinogenic... Haha, i did 1200mgs of Ibogaine in a hospital. And its not mildy, ill tell you that :P
kimpakatt 1 year ago 3
@kimpakatt In a hospital??? which one ?? i,ll go there next time i feel sick jajajaja!!
mate6mty 1 year ago
'mildly hallucinogenic'
heh
tomers113 1 year ago
can ibogaine cure marijuana addiction?
samann95014 1 year ago
@samann95014 No such thing as marijuana addiction..not a physical real addiction at least
KINGKENNYTHEHOLY 1 year ago
@KINGKENNYTHEHOLY just because its not physical doesnt mean its not tough, i got an anxiety disorder from trying to quit mariuanna, must get high...
Gadawdu 1 year ago
I just kicked a 4 year opiate addiction, I was on 60mg methadone, 2 days after cold turkey I ate a large dose of ibogaine spent the next 4 days there and now im home, I smoked some good weed my Mom gave me haha I have no cravings or thoughts about methadone or anything. I havnt felt this good or looked this good in YEARS !
crookshanks576 1 year ago
Dr Sola ran the clinic this is their web site w w w treataddictionright . com AVOID them!
There were 3 of us and they severely under dosed us with what was suppose to be "Ibogaine HCL" but it was not off-white it was BROWN like an extract would be. Then we were given barley 12mg/kg which was too low as we all had massive painful withdrawal symptoms which were NOT related to the potential effects of ibogaine. Even though they saw that we were in withdrawal they did not give us any boosters.
khazzar1 1 year ago 2
@khazzar1 I just would like to add that their website is
VILLA SERENA IT IS ALL LIES AS WELL AS DR. MASH WHO IS JUST OUT TO MAKE MONEY IN PATENTING THIS DRUG
AVOID THESE PLACES AT ALL COST. THEY ARE AWFUL UNCARING PEOPLE AND ARE OUT JUST TO GET YOUR MONEY
khazzar1 1 year ago
The Ibogaine treatment protocol dictates patients who show withdrawal symptoms should be given booster doses and people with high opiate tolerance should receive higher amounts of Ibogaine, we were barely given a threshold amount and of questionable quality. At our level of opiate use we should have received AT LEAST 15-24mg/kg.
In correspondence with Dr Mash, she said her "standard doses are 850mg" and she has never had any complaints... we asked for a GC/MS and have had no reply.
khazzar1 1 year ago
Yes, Ibogaine works wonders but the clinic is a complete scam, DR Mash is a scam and charged us $7,000 each per person to stay at a rented house in Cancun Mexico. We were fed no food but rotten food and were not allowed to leave. The doctors and nurses were rude and uncompassionate. It was only our resolve to get the treatment to stay until we received the drug. We left 2 days early while they tried to restrict our phone calls preventing our plans to leave.
khazzar1 1 year ago
@khazzar1
OMG I feel so sorry for you, that is so out of order!!!
Are you OK now????
we went to amsterdam to "sara's house"
shame you didnt find out about her. A flight from the us to holland and the treatment would of come to less.
Bloody hell mate
robex100 1 year ago
"it doesnt come in a modern laboratory, but from an ancient plant"
even the news man explained why it shouldnt be illegal
freddiebarry93 1 year ago
It would be nice if I could acquire Iboga. I've struggled quitting cigarettes over the years and heard there has been great success with this medicine. Also, the spiritual effects of iboga might help my appreciation of every day life (I struggle with depression). I'm dependent upon the anti-depressant Effexor and the withdrawals are terrible if I don't take it. I want to continue to live, but not be dependent on nasty antidepressants and deadly cigarettes. It's illegal here in America =(
jstb0b 1 year ago
this should be legal in the US, in the meantime try Kratom to beat any addiction, especially opiates, but including alcohol along with AA, it did the trick for me personally! KRATOM legal in US and most other places
ThePeterquistgard 1 year ago
cocaine is'nt an opiate.
sjewitt22 1 year ago
Man this shit sounds Amazing! Ive heard a little bit about it in the past! I have been Fight Herion/Opiate addiction for the past 5 years and it is by far the hardest thing i have ever done! Ive tried the MEthadone, Suboxone, Subutext, Rehab, Im in Intensive Out Patient Right now it helps But damn! Ill be good for weeks or a couple of months and the cravings just over take me! I know it makes me sound week But anybody thats a true Addict out there can feel my pain! I would love to see this Legal
axeman669 1 year ago
@axeman669 Dude, you're worthless. Just end it all. You can't even spell properly, what purpose are you serving being alive? You're a burden on yourself, your family and society. Just OD, for the sake of mankind. Your weak kind isn't needed, you should have thought about this shit before you started doing drugs. Now you're fucked :)
kamaljotsdhaliwal 1 year ago
@kamaljotsdhaliwal Dude, wtf? There's worse spellers out there that DON'T do drugs.
necridos 1 year ago
@kamaljotsdhaliwal that's pretty sadistic man. Good thing there's no politicians like you....wait, I take that back lol
jstb0b 1 year ago
@kamaljotsdhaliwal haha yeah i should just OD...you shoud just die your kind is a discrace to mankind...You get on a drug related vid. and dog people that have a problem! your cool...i would wish some kind of addiction on u but i wouldnt do that! u obviously dont know what its like to get crazy addicted to something! You never know ur kids or u even still are capable of being at the mercy of this disease!! so fuck u man! :)
axeman669 1 year ago
@axeman669
can you get to Holland?
Iboga will get rid of your cravings !!
sara119@xs4all.nl "Sara's House"
robex100 1 year ago
i just want to be free you know, ive spent 10 yrs trying and im still trying even though in my heart, i know, and to know there is a way but the powers that be are telling me no you cant have it, if it was them theyd have a diff view, how can someone tell me i cant have my life, hvae control of my own body once again, i would do anything in the world for that chance,
i cant see this ever ending, but i cant stop trying either
sosaidsam 1 year ago
@sosaidsam
can you get to Holland?
You can do Iboga safely at "sara's House" in Amsterdam
sara119@xs4all.nl
robex100 1 year ago
There is Hope for the Hopeless. Reformers Unanimous is a faith-based addictions program. We have 770 chapters across the United States and an 82% success rate. Check our Channel out @Ruinternational
RUInternational 1 year ago
@deathcoremaggot
A chemical is a chemical, even if it comes from a plant. If I make sugar in a test tube or I extract it from sugar cane, it's still sucrose, C12H22O11. The exact same molecule.
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
Once again, I would like to go on record to say that what YouTube has done to the comments sucks, sucks, sucks. You can't tell what is a reply to what. Please, YouTube, pretty please with ibogaine on top: PUT IT BACK!
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago