Carrying a round in the chamber allows one to fire a round faster in self defense therefore increasing their probability of surviving the attack, However carrying a weapon without a round in the chamber decreases the risk of a negligent discharge which can also lead to an innocent death. Negligent discharges are a serious risk and kill people every year. The saying, "my finger is my safety" is ignorant to the fact that even trained professionals have negligent discharges. Consider all risks.
I hope your real life scenarios show the timid how quickly one can lose their life or be seriously injured if they are not fast and READY to deal with these situations...you do a true service to all. Please keep up the great work and God bless You and your Family.
Very simple: if you carry a semi auto pistol, you absolutely must carry a round in the chamber! You will soon be comfortable with it. Get used to it because you are at risk to do anything else!
@popeye1250 "I wouldn't let anyone get that close to begin with. [...] At about 20 feet I'd yell "KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!" making eye contact."
At 8 AM on an average weekday in Manhattan, as you were walking down the sidewalk with thousands of other people, you'd be constantly screaming "KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!" and firing rounds into people as fast as you could pull the trigger?
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"No more talking. Pick up your empty shell casings and be on your way."
@hitssquad Situational awareness is part of the price for carrying a weapon. When you carry a gun, you start to look at the people around you and you start to note their movements. Behaviors that seem out of place start to become immediately noticeable, like an arm held stiffly against the side of the body as if pressing an object against the body under a coat. Or a guy walking towards you with a hand cupped to conceal a blade. There is a reason why cops act paranoid.
this is so lame. first of all if you are going to carry concealed you dont need to stand so close to someone you think could be a threat. and no shit you need to carry a round in the chamber. how many cops do you think get into a shoot out and the first thing they do is draw and rack a bullet.... let me tell you NONE. plus the short camera view was terrible. during any kind of confrontation or something you believed could get there you need to be your arms length and their armslength away.
I would like to add the fact that in a real life scenario a person with ill intent will not go and tell the police if you pull a gun on them and diffuse the situation. It's better to always be judged by twelve, than carried by six!
@Jaymn2589 First thing you carry is a gun. Second thing you carry is a spare mag. Third thing you carry is a cellphone because it has been documented where some thugs who were about to beat up on a guy on his own until he pulled out his pistol. Thugs ran off and told the first cop they saw that some guy pulled a gun on them. Guess who was arrested? The moment you draw your gun, you call the incident in, because the first person on the 911 tape is the one that they will believe.
@Jaymn2589 You are wrong. The first thing you should do after an encounter where you drew your gun but didn't have to shoot is call the police. Why, for the very fact that SOME people WILL call the police. They think if they hurry up & make a call before you do (or might) that the police will believe them over you. The police don't know either of you (unless you have a record) so they don't have much to go on with who to believe. How does it look if the bad guy does call and you DON'T?
@Soulrider2012 Yeah call the cops to tell on yourself... I'd rather take my chances of them not calling because definitely they will take your carry privileges away.
@Jaymn2589 You need to reconsider your idea. If you draw your weapon because you were in fear for your life, then you would want to report the attack/assault/terroristic threat to the police immediately, because if it does not warrant the attention of the police, why did you pull out your gun? There have been cases where the thugs called the cops to report their supposed victim menacing them with a gun. First one on the 911 tape is the one they will most likely believe.
Or a revolver with a respectible cartridge. sp101 or 686-7 come to mind, with a laser grip to shoot from the hip and hit vitals fast. Use a good holster and practice. If someone is aggressive and I'm cornered, I woudn't let them get that close: a laser to the chest and a warning early on. By the way, the 20 foot rule is bullshit; this is a matter of probability, not certainty, and is not an argument to go unarmed. Better to have some chance than none at all. IMHO
@PowerForGood I am uncertain of the intent of your post, but the police follow the 20 foot rule and are authorized to shoot you until you stop moving if you have any sort of weapon or anything that looks like a weapon anywhere inside that 20 foot radius. By the way, I asked a cop once about the shooting until the bad guy stops moving thing. He said they usually stop moving when they die. And they are thinking about expanding that to 35 ft.
@neosteeled001 Yes, I can see the ambiguity at the end of my comment looking at it again. I simply meant to counter the idiotic comments I saw from some who attempt to use the 20ft rule to argue against carry because we were "fooling ourselves", which is totally illogical. Anyway, your video should convince people that a ready gun(chambered round) gives much higher probability of success against a close proximity surprise attack; which of course it does. Good job.
If someone approaches you and you think they are about to attack you, either keep your distance (about 10-15 feet minimum depending on your speed, training, holster etc) and make sure there is nothing behind you so you that you can back up wile you draw out and fire. Also remember, just because you have a firearm, doesnt mean you cant punch or kick first. If they get too close, attack first, make distance and make a lot of noise.
She died in the 2nd scene, she got rushed and controlled.
@denwardchin I'm pretty sure that you mean well, but the moment the attacker crossed the 20 foot line, the woman was dead no matter what she did. You and anyone who carries a weapon should watch the Dennnis Tueller Interview video by GunWebsites on Mar. 25, 2011 I took Massad Ayoob's LFI class and did the drill. It was quite an eye opener.
The first sinario, she was stabbed twice. The first stab looked like a kidney stab to me. Second one would have been a heart stab or a glance off of the rib into the armpit. Both are fatal. Remember, an attacker that doesnt have a projectile weapon is where his lead foot is. NOT where his head and center mass is. His lead foot was about 3 feet away from her. She reacted Very quickly and probrably needed about 10 feet or so. It takes most people about .7 seconds to react and they need about 15
At that range, an average knife fighter with no rules and is allowed to attack first will have a MAJOR advantage vs someone who has rules and cannot even draw their weapon until after the suspect has already mad his move, expert or not. A knife is always sharp and pointy so it can constantly do damage inside a certain range. A gun is only able to do damage in small bursts but has much larger range.
Some of you guys seem to believe that we can just make up our own rules about self defense. Did some of you NOT get any training when you got your CCW permit?. I don't know which scares me more?, the criminals or the un-trained, un-educated people that have armed themselves. Anytime we should shoot an unarmed person we had better have a damned good reason, or we will be heading off to the big house to live with Bubba.
@NCLUSA What should really scare you is that the government, either state or federal, mandates A MINIMUM level of training. Why do you think that most car accidents can be attributed to young drivers with a fresh license to drive? If it would make you feel better, nearly all trainers for the states that require training heartily recommend their students get more advanced training. AND those states that do not require training classes do include a handy FAQ handout with the license,
I think it's important to carry with a round chambered. I definitely feel much more comfortable if I have a decocker. Honestly though, I wouldn't even buy a handgun I'm planning carrying if it does't haven't a decocker.
I carry one in the chamber because I carry a Sig and it has a drop hammer. Other guns use a drop hammer also. Best safety there is. And carrying for self defense without one in the chamber is useless.
In this situation, breaking his arm, using a knife, pepperspray, stun gun or just a swift kick to the groin would have done a world of good more than trying to draw and fire a gun, chambered or not. Notice that even in your first test where you managed to get off two (only because you drew before he even moved, btw), that you STILL got stabbed twice, and would have more, you did nothing to defend yourself.
If someone wants to Assassinate you, it won't matter what you carry or how, this video is stupid. A person's mind is their best defensive weapon, being prepared will save your life, not a fast draw
@NCLUSA I can not but be compelled to ask. You would use the force of your mind to create a bubble shield to protect you from attack? Will you have to wear a spandex costume to go with your mental powers? For the rest of us mortals, being prepared means recognizing that threats do exist, and that being proficient with a firearm is part of being prepared to defend oneself. For your information, this video may save a life. Not that you need saving since you have telekinetic powers.
@neosteeled001 Mr Smartass, the best way to stay out of harm's way is to not put yourself into a situation where you can be attacked in the first place. There is no defense against an assassin as this video is showing. If you knew anything about guns and real shooting you would know that even if we shoot the guy with the knife he is still going to stab the hell out of you. Unlike what you believe you see in the movies people don't stop or fall down when shot with a handgun round.
@NCLUSA My apologies, perhaps you didn't look down this thread and see my earlier post about the video and my comment about how this validated the Tueller drill. Please look that term up. And by inference, that might lead you to conclude that I may have some knowledge regarding this subject. And "Assassins" refer to the killing a a person due to political motivation. The subject of this video is showing the attack of a murderer. There is a difference. So, Wolverine, or Sabertooth?
@NCLUSA I would agree with you on being prepared. For the shooter, it's called Condition Yellow. The video actually shows all the things that can go wrong in encountering an attacker. She allowed her attacker to get too close, She had to chamber a round before she could use her gun. Her clothes hampered her ability to draw quickly. And there is no such thing as a slow draw. W. Earp said it best. "I took my time in a hurry". Meaning he got his gun out fast but took his time to aim.
after telling an officer I was carrying and answering his question of whether or not I had one chambered he asked "why do you have a rnd chambered?" I told him the same reason he had one in the pipe
@fire23eater if you dont support guns or anything of the sort, go look at somthing else. Oh your really gonna call gun lovers and pdw owners conservative rednecks? I think your just a confused kid that doesn't realize how important it is that u.s. Citizens can still have rights to protect ourselves, and if need be, protect one-another.
How about doing something useful with your weak hand? On each approach the woman's non shooting hand was between her and the attacker but completely useless to her for some reason. Maybe teaching yourself to use your legs when standing up just like you did when you were on your back.
@TheBlooMonster Itll take them down but not out, plus theres a nice handful of people that are immune/have high tolerance to capsicum. No one is immune to acute lead exposure.
@BigJT2010 even with high tolerance or immunity to capsicum (which ive actually never heard of) it'll be like water to the face. irritating and distracting enough for you to pull the slide and give the sucker some lead lol
@TheBlooMonster Ah. I thought you were referring to carrying pepper spray instead of a gun. As far the tolerance and immunity goes I told about it by my father (former head of sec at pearl harbor) and they told us about it in my criminal justice courses
@BigJT2010 i guess i learned something new today. i actually meant spray the sucker while he's distracted cock the gun and let it rain. cause where i live gun carrying permit is complicated and very very hard to get. so i carry pepper spray on the left side of my belt and my cold steel tilight in my right pocket. so i thought the same method could be apply in the situation where there isnt a round in the chamber.
@TheBlooMonster I take it you live somewhere in new england or on the west coast? Idk where you live but I know in SC (one of the most annoying southern states to get your carry permit) you could get in trouble for that. The law states that in a self defense sit. your first move should be to try to get away or avoid it (thus they made the castle doctrine) but with various loopholes of course. If i were to pepper spray first, initially stopping them, then to use deadly force
Does SC not have 'Stand your ground' laws now? NC (where I live) just adopted castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. In no way, shape, or form am I required to retreat from an attacker (unless I provoked the attack). I can use deadly force to protect myself or others from immediate death or serious bodily injury, with pretty much no ifs, ands, or buts. It's quite nice, and the way it ought to be.
@sneaky98gt Not that im aware. Youre allowed to use deadly force when necessary but your in for it if they determine you stayed when an opportunity for fleeing was present. Also (although not set in stone) if someone approaches unarmed to harm me and i shoot I could be charged. I agree NCs law is the way it should be but I also find it odd that Nc would have it and SC doesn't. The last I heard NC has some weird kind of liberal gun laws like limits on high capacity mags and what such.
There are now very few liberal gun control laws in NC. There are no limits on magazine capacities, assault rifles, concealed carry, etc. It's still not perfect, but it's not as bad as a lot of other states.
In NC, you can only draw/point your weapon if you are in immediate, life threatening danger. Someone making verbal threats or gestures does constitute immediate death or serious bodily injury, and you have to be very careful if they don't have a weapon.
@sneaky98gt But I figure theres no reason to carry a gun if your not going to use during a physical confrontation. Even if someone is unarmed but has intent to seriously injure or kill me im not going to allow them to get close enough to disarm me and use it against me.
'Immediate death or serious bodily injury' means they have pointed a gun at you, come at you with a knife, committed/committing murderous assault (hands on your throat, repeated blows while you're on the ground, etc, but NOT simple assault [punches and whatnot]), or have entered or trying to enter your house or car.
If any of those have happened, you are 100% justified in the use of deadly force in NC. And I am NOT required to retreat in any of those situations.
@TheBlooMonster beyond that would then most likely put my ass in jail for not using that opportunity to flee. but but then all of the factors have to be weighed. also it would make sense with you carrying a hand to hand weapon but when it comes to firearms I could imagine someone fumbling with the safety features on a pepper spray can just as much or more than they would fumble with chambering a round. It would be counter productive at that point
excellent video - beats drawing a cell phone to call for help! Now these two scenarios are under controlled conditions with the open carry method and not concealed (harder to draw from)
i know this is a gun based video but just a little thought...if you are faced in this similar scenario distance and all don't worry about the gun. move in or stay put and use defensive hand to hand techniques to immobilize the aggressor.
@81lubbock Just my thought too. I am trained in both firearms and self-defense and by pulling away from your attacker while you draw gives him the advantage. As he draws the knife, if you put your left hand out toward his forearm while spinning so your back hits his chest gives you the advantage then to pull away while you finish the draw and fire. His momentum forward won't allow him to stop and reverse attack. That split second is time you need to react and defeat the threat.
This is a very good video proving the validity of the Tueller drill, which showed that the average person could move 20 feet in less than 3 seconds. Not enough time for anyone to draw their weapon. Even when warned of an attack. I did the drill in 1.78 seconds from a dead stop, and I was fatter back then. This is why the police are allowed to shoot you when you get at 20 feet away. The woman should have had her gun out already and shot at the guy at 19.5 feet distance.
Yes... One in the pipe... But also need to learn not to just stand there trying to draw while getting stabbed. Great advantage of firearms is range. You can move and draw at the same time. If you perceive a threat, even if it doesn't yet warrant pulling a gun, maintain distance... If he refuses to let you maintain distance peacefully, the situation warrants pulling the gun.
Just FYI, a fully loaded revolver DOES have a round in the firing chamber. I have seen people REPEATEDLY AD & ND them with FIFTEEN pound double action trigger pulls under simulated stress
Perhaps consider self-defense training in methods such as krav maga. Knives are quicker on the draw of course in real close situations, but if you are able to get a leg up for a push kick, you could potentially protect your more vital areas by keeping distance for a moment longer.
An empty chamber is only slightly better than no gun at all. If you're not comfortable carrying a gun with a chambered cartridge, either get a different gun or carry pepper spray instead.
You should learn Krav Maga or other similar type of hand to hand combat. Then you can break engagement, gain distance and then draw your firearm. Also, if you had one in the chamber, would you have tried to shoot from high hip one handed and use free arm to block stab, or still try to get to two handed platform??
@NavyCop20070221 Not always the case..practice, run while you draw, use other self defense techniques.I was attacked by a guy with a knife (I had left my gun at home to put gas)...He was unconcious in 30 seconds.I am an accountant not a Navy Seal.My attacker was stronger and younger but I kept a cool head and after I dropped him and took his knife, I knocked him out with my knee and called 911.Some people say I got lucky..I had been preparing for it for years.Now I carry 2 guns all the time.
You must be comfortable with your firearm if carrying an auto pistol with a round in the chamber doesn't set well, carry a revolver with the hammer resting on an empty chamber. five shots is better than the alternative
When do many soldiers die? They die on reloading their guns or jams. If you are in a situation with any sort of threat you need to have dependable and ready to use equipment. Without a round in the chamber, you might as well run away. That will give you better chances of survival rather than an unready firearm.
I love shooting and always carry a round chambered in my P230 (I use that for carry) but really the best advice is if you feel the possibility of a threat when you're around someone, leave. Don't stick around and even take the chance of having to TRY to defend yourself. It won't always work out in your favor. But it's better to be safe than dead because you don't keep a round chambered.
Damn, did you get stabbed in the boob? LOL I carry a Glock30 with 10 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. With Glocks and their double-action only, I feel comfort carry 1 in the chamber. Also as a rule, with any UNFAMILIAR faces encountered, I always keep at least a 5 feet distant.
wish i could have the same rights as they have in the UNITED STATES. too bad i live in CALIFORNIA and have a better chance of jumping over the moon than getting a CCP from the sherif of this asshole city LOS ANGELES. seriously bullshit.
Another good tip I experienced first hand: If you feel something isn't right, don't be compelled to stay just because you are armed. Run if you can, before a weapon is produced on either side. It will give you time to think about what you should do next, be that: get some distance, look for an out, or just back off enough to get a clean shot. Best of luck.
@FrozenKoolAidDude Yes, but it is not an argument against the semi auto. The semi auto is designed to be carried with one in the chamber - there is no 'problem'.
@FrozenKoolAidDude Solution, don't carry a fucking gun and live in fear your whole life. Fucking stupid rednecks and conservatives. And we wonder why America is the way it is.
@Fire23eater I'm not going to be a pecker and say "Fine, don't carry a gun and get yourself killed" or something, but I will say you're an idiot. And I don't wonder why America is this way, I know it because we're all morons. That's why as soon as I can, I'm moving back to Poland.
@FrozenKoolAidDude There is relatively no difference in safety or trigger pull between a revolver and a DA semi auto. Both simply cannot go off unless the trigger is pulled. The feeling of increased safety people have while carrying revolvers is 100% mental.
i would want a round in battery thats why you carry a gun in the first place. its real and absolutely horrible when someone is shot so i want it over as soon as possible and i want me the fuck out of there with as little damage to myself or my family as i can help. lol if i can help it i don't even want eyes on the threat after he drops i have seen what it looks like and i never want to again if i can help it.
I use my Ruger SR9 for concealed carry and it has a Glock style double action trigger safety and a manual safety so I feel comfortable with not having a mishap with accidental fire while carrying one in the chamber....Everybody do what you feel comfortable with and stay safe out there.
Maybe the first move should not be to draw, but to delay an attack.
maybe even the self defence begins before you are even the film begins rolling: so close to a suspected assailant who could have their hand already on a weapon.
@darkscope2 um Yeah, and ALL other guns just go off with the smallest little bump, sigh Youtube gun experts need to get away from the computer more....
@vector6977 Ummm.... Exactly where did I say I'm an expert? I never said glocks are the only handgun that doesn't go off. I only mentioned glock because I only know about glock. Looks like you're the only moron here that needs to take a break away from the computer.
I carry inside the pant where my firing hand naturally rests. I keep a round in the chamber and I have a pressure switch on the grip for a laser to help me aim quickly and effectively. And I carry Hornady Critical defense rounds. I also carry a Glock so there is no manual safety to disengage, but it still has the safety on until I'm ready to fire it.
i always keep A round in the chamber on the streets BUT with the safety ON! my mellenium pro makes it very easy to disengage the safety less then A second very fast no problem. however' when using home defence & the weapon is hidden or conveniently stored away' i do not keep A round in the chamber' because if i hear A weird noise or anything suspicious' i grave my gun then cock it...
Here in CA, its hard to get a conceal carry permit. Here in Los Angeles it is outright impossible. Before this year we could open carry, but only unloaded (not sure what the point was with that other than to disarm us). Now we can't even open carry at all. HAVE NO DOUBT, THIS IS COMING TO OTHER STATES. Just wait until Obama gets his 2nd term and see what happens.
I was hunting with a .22 rifle one day and wearing a Ruger Single Six .22 cal. revolver in a holster with a round under the hammer. I had just lined up a shot when BLAM! The pistol fell out of the holster hit the road and shot my ankle. I was lucky the bullet just missed the tendon at the back of my ankle (Ruger did recall the pistol to fix the problem of firing when you strike the hammer) My choice for a concealed weapon is a Colt Agent 38 sp. W/O a round under the hammer, with a 1911 nearby.
I'm agreeing again, this is a good demonstration. Drill your thumbsweeps into your gross motor controls if you carry any weapon at any time with a slide safety.
This is hands down, the best demonstration of why everybody should carry a round in the chamber. You have to be damn well trained to be able to draw and rack the slide under stress. And even those ppl who are, still wouldn't doubt one second in carrying with a round in the chamber. Timing is crucial during the draw, and your life depends on the seconds you take, round in the chamber is the only way to carry imo, if it's a glock, then much better then.
@spahirider15 Ya I suppose it is a blessing to be able to kill people and make america into an even shittier redneck country by perpetuating gun culture which is no longer needed and probably never was.
@Fire23eater youll be sorry when someone hurts you and all you have is a cell phone to throw at them...if your anti gun dont watch gun videos...go watch charlie bit my finger remixes and feel warm inside
@Fire23eater It's a blessing to kill a bad person. Look at how well the Somalia rescue went. All the "persons of interest" shot dead. No room in the helicopters for pirates. Kill'em! 2 in the chest and 1 in the face. Look at all the money we are saving by not taking them to GITMO.
"Should you carry with a round in the chamber?" What a silly question, that answer is yes. The real question is, "Do you feel comfortably carrying a pistol with a short 5lb trigger pull, and no safety with a round in the chamber?" My answer is "no" which is why I do not own any striker fired pistols.
@jbrown2396 wow, I read down, and just want you to know there is a condition 0. I know myself, I know my rigs, I keep track of my surroundings. There are many of us out here who only engage the safety to holster the pistol then immediately disengage it when seated. If you don't feel comfortable with yourself or gear that's fine, I do want you to feel uncomfortable. I carry my 1911, just as a glock, my finger is the safety. PM me, yell at me for being unsafe.
@XGCScrappy Condition 0 ( as it applies to 1911 or external hammer guns ) fully loaded mag, round in the chamber, hammer cocked, safety-not engaged. With an inspec 1911 w/ a heavy stock trigger pull & proper functioning grip safety- not significantly diff from a GLOCK. In a holster that covers the trigger- 0 should pose no problems for the trained professional. If you don't want it to go off- don't pull the trigger.You ex-SF?
@sbd45acp Not to be mean and take this as no disrespect, NUNYA. I carry at the ready, I bale from the vehicle my rifle's safety is off. And no I don't go looking for my rifle if the vehicle is on fire, I take my side arm and start looking for who needs help. If it's a fight, I'll be in it and I'll bring home everyone I can. Hopefully myself too. Bless you.
@Makkealamarkus It doesn't matter what the government does or how people feel. What matters is the right to be able to defend yourself if needed. I think citizens have failed when they give up the right to defend themselves.
@HighAsCaptnKirk I agree, it takes seconds to die and about 45 minutes for the police to respond....after somebody calls them :O I'd rather smoke the attacker and have the police fill out the report.
I am a gun owner and an Army veteran (11B infantry). I am all for gun rights and self defense... but if you are walking around on a daily basis, with a round in the chamber, and there is no immediate threat... you are a fucking idiot! You cannot prepare yourself for EVERYTHING.. you will most likely shoot someone accidentally (poss. someone who startles you), and be facing a manslaughter charge, at the least.
@lightfighter36 Yeah the idiot would do that, but the better more experienced person would have no problem, although carrying a gun for some years will bring the amateur mishap, but after you get your experience up as do police and such you'll find it the best way
@lightfighter36 I respectfully disagree. If you carry with a round in the chamber, have a holster that covers the entire trigger guard, and demonstrate proper firearms safety EVERY single time, you should have no issues. Then again, many people get complacent with firearms safety and start to get negligent, which would then cause an accident. I can see where you base your opinion.Then again, I think the solution is respecting safety every minute of every single day. Take care.
@lightfighter36 Yeah, I hate to break it to you chief, but the military does exactly shit for pistol training other than "The rounds go in the magazine, and this is the dangerous end". Not all 11B's have lower that triple digit IQ's, but I bet you could name at least a few that were labeled as the platoon fuck up. This shouldn't shock you, but your training was setup in such a way so that guy can get up to speed, and also minimize the risk from "that guy" when he is downrange.
@lightfighter36 Ridiculous. If you are sitting at a stop light and someone blows their horn behind you, does you foot jump off the brake and stomp the accelerator to the floor? When do you buckle your seatbelt on? Only when there is an immediate wreck? I understand that you may not be comfortable or able to do it..... but please don't hold the rest of us back.... And the FI language... really unnecessary
anyone that CCWs and doesnt carry a round in the chamber is a idiot....
gshdrums 9 hours ago
Carrying a round in the chamber allows one to fire a round faster in self defense therefore increasing their probability of surviving the attack, However carrying a weapon without a round in the chamber decreases the risk of a negligent discharge which can also lead to an innocent death. Negligent discharges are a serious risk and kill people every year. The saying, "my finger is my safety" is ignorant to the fact that even trained professionals have negligent discharges. Consider all risks.
Drewmurr2G 14 hours ago
i think everyone should see this video at least one time in there live
yamahakazy 18 hours ago
@yamahakazy life not live sorry
yamahakazy 18 hours ago
I hope your real life scenarios show the timid how quickly one can lose their life or be seriously injured if they are not fast and READY to deal with these situations...you do a true service to all. Please keep up the great work and God bless You and your Family.
humbleranger 2 days ago
that would have been a kidney and lung stab wound, you would drown on your own blood before EMT's were even on site
wraith3845 4 days ago
Very simple: if you carry a semi auto pistol, you absolutely must carry a round in the chamber! You will soon be comfortable with it. Get used to it because you are at risk to do anything else!
Gman6755 5 days ago
well, you convinced me... seeing that you knew that guy was going to go for you anyways
maladettagirl 5 days ago
If anybody ever comes at you with a weapon, you shoot them before they can come into the effective range of their weapon.
iameiame 1 week ago
I wouldn't let anyone get that close to begin with.
"The three circles."
At about 20 feet I'd yell "KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!" making eye contact.
Once he get's inside *TEN FEET* "BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!"
No more talking.
Pick up your empty shell casings and be on your way.
popeye1250 1 week ago
@popeye1250 "I wouldn't let anyone get that close to begin with. [...] At about 20 feet I'd yell "KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!" making eye contact."
At 8 AM on an average weekday in Manhattan, as you were walking down the sidewalk with thousands of other people, you'd be constantly screaming "KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!!!" and firing rounds into people as fast as you could pull the trigger?
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"No more talking. Pick up your empty shell casings and be on your way."
hitssquad 1 week ago
@hitssquad Situational awareness is part of the price for carrying a weapon. When you carry a gun, you start to look at the people around you and you start to note their movements. Behaviors that seem out of place start to become immediately noticeable, like an arm held stiffly against the side of the body as if pressing an object against the body under a coat. Or a guy walking towards you with a hand cupped to conceal a blade. There is a reason why cops act paranoid.
neosteeled001 5 days ago
this is so lame. first of all if you are going to carry concealed you dont need to stand so close to someone you think could be a threat. and no shit you need to carry a round in the chamber. how many cops do you think get into a shoot out and the first thing they do is draw and rack a bullet.... let me tell you NONE. plus the short camera view was terrible. during any kind of confrontation or something you believed could get there you need to be your arms length and their armslength away.
rogue5191 1 week ago
I would like to add the fact that in a real life scenario a person with ill intent will not go and tell the police if you pull a gun on them and diffuse the situation. It's better to always be judged by twelve, than carried by six!
Jaymn2589 1 week ago
@Jaymn2589 First thing you carry is a gun. Second thing you carry is a spare mag. Third thing you carry is a cellphone because it has been documented where some thugs who were about to beat up on a guy on his own until he pulled out his pistol. Thugs ran off and told the first cop they saw that some guy pulled a gun on them. Guess who was arrested? The moment you draw your gun, you call the incident in, because the first person on the 911 tape is the one that they will believe.
neosteeled001 1 week ago
@Jaymn2589 You are wrong. The first thing you should do after an encounter where you drew your gun but didn't have to shoot is call the police. Why, for the very fact that SOME people WILL call the police. They think if they hurry up & make a call before you do (or might) that the police will believe them over you. The police don't know either of you (unless you have a record) so they don't have much to go on with who to believe. How does it look if the bad guy does call and you DON'T?
Soulrider2012 4 days ago
@Soulrider2012 Yeah call the cops to tell on yourself... I'd rather take my chances of them not calling because definitely they will take your carry privileges away.
Jaymn2589 4 days ago
@Jaymn2589 You need to reconsider your idea. If you draw your weapon because you were in fear for your life, then you would want to report the attack/assault/terroristic threat to the police immediately, because if it does not warrant the attention of the police, why did you pull out your gun? There have been cases where the thugs called the cops to report their supposed victim menacing them with a gun. First one on the 911 tape is the one they will most likely believe.
neosteeled001 4 days ago
Or a revolver with a respectible cartridge. sp101 or 686-7 come to mind, with a laser grip to shoot from the hip and hit vitals fast. Use a good holster and practice. If someone is aggressive and I'm cornered, I woudn't let them get that close: a laser to the chest and a warning early on. By the way, the 20 foot rule is bullshit; this is a matter of probability, not certainty, and is not an argument to go unarmed. Better to have some chance than none at all. IMHO
PowerForGood 1 week ago
@PowerForGood I am uncertain of the intent of your post, but the police follow the 20 foot rule and are authorized to shoot you until you stop moving if you have any sort of weapon or anything that looks like a weapon anywhere inside that 20 foot radius. By the way, I asked a cop once about the shooting until the bad guy stops moving thing. He said they usually stop moving when they die. And they are thinking about expanding that to 35 ft.
neosteeled001 1 week ago
@neosteeled001 Yes, I can see the ambiguity at the end of my comment looking at it again. I simply meant to counter the idiotic comments I saw from some who attempt to use the 20ft rule to argue against carry because we were "fooling ourselves", which is totally illogical. Anyway, your video should convince people that a ready gun(chambered round) gives much higher probability of success against a close proximity surprise attack; which of course it does. Good job.
PowerForGood 1 week ago
ALWAYS CARRY CHAMBER LOADED
IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT...DON'T CARRY A GUN ON YOUR PERSON.
Migs4000 1 week ago
how about a revolver instead .?
TheCristo68 1 week ago
@denwardchin Well put!!
Jdavis294 1 week ago
Well put and she new he was going to pounce on her. What if you did not see it coming at all
Jdavis294 1 week ago
he should have shot you in the face 1
3000supersimian 1 week ago
If someone approaches you and you think they are about to attack you, either keep your distance (about 10-15 feet minimum depending on your speed, training, holster etc) and make sure there is nothing behind you so you that you can back up wile you draw out and fire. Also remember, just because you have a firearm, doesnt mean you cant punch or kick first. If they get too close, attack first, make distance and make a lot of noise.
She died in the 2nd scene, she got rushed and controlled.
denwardchin 1 week ago
@denwardchin I'm pretty sure that you mean well, but the moment the attacker crossed the 20 foot line, the woman was dead no matter what she did. You and anyone who carries a weapon should watch the Dennnis Tueller Interview video by GunWebsites on Mar. 25, 2011 I took Massad Ayoob's LFI class and did the drill. It was quite an eye opener.
neosteeled001 1 week ago
The first sinario, she was stabbed twice. The first stab looked like a kidney stab to me. Second one would have been a heart stab or a glance off of the rib into the armpit. Both are fatal. Remember, an attacker that doesnt have a projectile weapon is where his lead foot is. NOT where his head and center mass is. His lead foot was about 3 feet away from her. She reacted Very quickly and probrably needed about 10 feet or so. It takes most people about .7 seconds to react and they need about 15
denwardchin 1 week ago
At that range, an average knife fighter with no rules and is allowed to attack first will have a MAJOR advantage vs someone who has rules and cannot even draw their weapon until after the suspect has already mad his move, expert or not. A knife is always sharp and pointy so it can constantly do damage inside a certain range. A gun is only able to do damage in small bursts but has much larger range.
denwardchin 1 week ago
Some of you guys seem to believe that we can just make up our own rules about self defense. Did some of you NOT get any training when you got your CCW permit?. I don't know which scares me more?, the criminals or the un-trained, un-educated people that have armed themselves. Anytime we should shoot an unarmed person we had better have a damned good reason, or we will be heading off to the big house to live with Bubba.
NCLUSA 1 week ago
@NCLUSA What should really scare you is that the government, either state or federal, mandates A MINIMUM level of training. Why do you think that most car accidents can be attributed to young drivers with a fresh license to drive? If it would make you feel better, nearly all trainers for the states that require training heartily recommend their students get more advanced training. AND those states that do not require training classes do include a handy FAQ handout with the license,
neosteeled001 1 week ago
My point is that i would have unholstered, poked and shot her everywhere before she had time to realize it.
IamFreeRu 2 weeks ago
Never ready for that in public. but for home defense, just point and shoot. make sure they dont run before they come back and sue you.
SquareGamer476 2 weeks ago
I think it's important to carry with a round chambered. I definitely feel much more comfortable if I have a decocker. Honestly though, I wouldn't even buy a handgun I'm planning carrying if it does't haven't a decocker.
infin1ty 2 weeks ago
when i carry i usually switch between my beretta px4 and my .357 snub.
i prefer revolvers so i always got chamber.
OnoaSnake 2 weeks ago
Thank You for this video!
sixgunnernick 2 weeks ago
I carry one in the chamber because I carry a Sig and it has a drop hammer. Other guns use a drop hammer also. Best safety there is. And carrying for self defense without one in the chamber is useless.
PlymouthVT 2 weeks ago
@PlymouthVT Yea the drop hammer was one of the selling points for me when I got my sig
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
she should be carrying a revolver.... I always carry a round in the chamber in my 1911 and my glock.
coldblood75 2 weeks ago
In this situation, breaking his arm, using a knife, pepperspray, stun gun or just a swift kick to the groin would have done a world of good more than trying to draw and fire a gun, chambered or not. Notice that even in your first test where you managed to get off two (only because you drew before he even moved, btw), that you STILL got stabbed twice, and would have more, you did nothing to defend yourself.
Zeroethorder 2 weeks ago
If someone wants to Assassinate you, it won't matter what you carry or how, this video is stupid. A person's mind is their best defensive weapon, being prepared will save your life, not a fast draw
NCLUSA 2 weeks ago
@NCLUSA I can not but be compelled to ask. You would use the force of your mind to create a bubble shield to protect you from attack? Will you have to wear a spandex costume to go with your mental powers? For the rest of us mortals, being prepared means recognizing that threats do exist, and that being proficient with a firearm is part of being prepared to defend oneself. For your information, this video may save a life. Not that you need saving since you have telekinetic powers.
neosteeled001 2 weeks ago
@neosteeled001 Mr Smartass, the best way to stay out of harm's way is to not put yourself into a situation where you can be attacked in the first place. There is no defense against an assassin as this video is showing. If you knew anything about guns and real shooting you would know that even if we shoot the guy with the knife he is still going to stab the hell out of you. Unlike what you believe you see in the movies people don't stop or fall down when shot with a handgun round.
NCLUSA 2 weeks ago
@NCLUSA My apologies, perhaps you didn't look down this thread and see my earlier post about the video and my comment about how this validated the Tueller drill. Please look that term up. And by inference, that might lead you to conclude that I may have some knowledge regarding this subject. And "Assassins" refer to the killing a a person due to political motivation. The subject of this video is showing the attack of a murderer. There is a difference. So, Wolverine, or Sabertooth?
neosteeled001 2 weeks ago
@neosteeled001 My point is!, a fast draw will not save your life. Being prepared will.
NCLUSA 2 weeks ago
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neosteeled001 2 weeks ago
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@NCLUSA I would agree with you on being prepared. For the shooter, it's called Condition Yellow. The video actually shows all the things that can go wrong in encountering an attacker. She allowed her attacker to get too close, She had to chamber a round before she could use her gun. Her clothes hampered her ability to draw quickly. And there is no such thing as a slow draw. W. Earp said it best. "I took my time in a hurry". Meaning he got his gun out fast but took his time to aim.
neosteeled001 2 weeks ago
after telling an officer I was carrying and answering his question of whether or not I had one chambered he asked "why do you have a rnd chambered?" I told him the same reason he had one in the pipe
southernfriedlensman 2 weeks ago
@southernfriedlensman Yea. I hope that was kind of a duh moment to him. What was his reply?
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010 a quick change of subject back to the traffic infraction
southernfriedlensman 1 week ago
@fire23eater if you dont support guns or anything of the sort, go look at somthing else. Oh your really gonna call gun lovers and pdw owners conservative rednecks? I think your just a confused kid that doesn't realize how important it is that u.s. Citizens can still have rights to protect ourselves, and if need be, protect one-another.
arcticxassault 2 weeks ago
How about doing something useful with your weak hand? On each approach the woman's non shooting hand was between her and the attacker but completely useless to her for some reason. Maybe teaching yourself to use your legs when standing up just like you did when you were on your back.
mobieus7 2 weeks ago
If you carry without a round in the chamber, you might as well carry a rock
UrbanKnight12 2 weeks ago
A empty chamber is a no go! Lock Load Live if that makes you nerves then you should not even have a gun.
MarbleDemo 2 weeks ago 2
get a can of pepper spray. might be more effective if you get attack by a group of people too.
TheBlooMonster 3 weeks ago
@TheBlooMonster Yep- you can spray that sucker down. Then if they're stupid enough to present a weapon,
TalulahsDaddy 2 weeks ago
@TheBlooMonster Itll take them down but not out, plus theres a nice handful of people that are immune/have high tolerance to capsicum. No one is immune to acute lead exposure.
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010 even with high tolerance or immunity to capsicum (which ive actually never heard of) it'll be like water to the face. irritating and distracting enough for you to pull the slide and give the sucker some lead lol
TheBlooMonster 2 weeks ago
@TheBlooMonster Ah. I thought you were referring to carrying pepper spray instead of a gun. As far the tolerance and immunity goes I told about it by my father (former head of sec at pearl harbor) and they told us about it in my criminal justice courses
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010 i guess i learned something new today. i actually meant spray the sucker while he's distracted cock the gun and let it rain. cause where i live gun carrying permit is complicated and very very hard to get. so i carry pepper spray on the left side of my belt and my cold steel tilight in my right pocket. so i thought the same method could be apply in the situation where there isnt a round in the chamber.
TheBlooMonster 2 weeks ago
@TheBlooMonster I take it you live somewhere in new england or on the west coast? Idk where you live but I know in SC (one of the most annoying southern states to get your carry permit) you could get in trouble for that. The law states that in a self defense sit. your first move should be to try to get away or avoid it (thus they made the castle doctrine) but with various loopholes of course. If i were to pepper spray first, initially stopping them, then to use deadly force
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010
Does SC not have 'Stand your ground' laws now? NC (where I live) just adopted castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. In no way, shape, or form am I required to retreat from an attacker (unless I provoked the attack). I can use deadly force to protect myself or others from immediate death or serious bodily injury, with pretty much no ifs, ands, or buts. It's quite nice, and the way it ought to be.
sneaky98gt 2 weeks ago
@sneaky98gt Not that im aware. Youre allowed to use deadly force when necessary but your in for it if they determine you stayed when an opportunity for fleeing was present. Also (although not set in stone) if someone approaches unarmed to harm me and i shoot I could be charged. I agree NCs law is the way it should be but I also find it odd that Nc would have it and SC doesn't. The last I heard NC has some weird kind of liberal gun laws like limits on high capacity mags and what such.
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010
There are now very few liberal gun control laws in NC. There are no limits on magazine capacities, assault rifles, concealed carry, etc. It's still not perfect, but it's not as bad as a lot of other states.
In NC, you can only draw/point your weapon if you are in immediate, life threatening danger. Someone making verbal threats or gestures does constitute immediate death or serious bodily injury, and you have to be very careful if they don't have a weapon.
sneaky98gt 2 weeks ago
@sneaky98gt But I figure theres no reason to carry a gun if your not going to use during a physical confrontation. Even if someone is unarmed but has intent to seriously injure or kill me im not going to allow them to get close enough to disarm me and use it against me.
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
@BigJT2010
'Immediate death or serious bodily injury' means they have pointed a gun at you, come at you with a knife, committed/committing murderous assault (hands on your throat, repeated blows while you're on the ground, etc, but NOT simple assault [punches and whatnot]), or have entered or trying to enter your house or car.
If any of those have happened, you are 100% justified in the use of deadly force in NC. And I am NOT required to retreat in any of those situations.
sneaky98gt 2 weeks ago
@sneaky98gt You should also look into "Disparity of Force".
neosteeled001 1 week ago
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neosteeled001 1 week ago
@TheBlooMonster beyond that would then most likely put my ass in jail for not using that opportunity to flee. but but then all of the factors have to be weighed. also it would make sense with you carrying a hand to hand weapon but when it comes to firearms I could imagine someone fumbling with the safety features on a pepper spray can just as much or more than they would fumble with chambering a round. It would be counter productive at that point
BigJT2010 2 weeks ago
excellent video - beats drawing a cell phone to call for help! Now these two scenarios are under controlled conditions with the open carry method and not concealed (harder to draw from)
Defender78 3 weeks ago
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Defender78 3 weeks ago
i know this is a gun based video but just a little thought...if you are faced in this similar scenario distance and all don't worry about the gun. move in or stay put and use defensive hand to hand techniques to immobilize the aggressor.
81lubbock 3 weeks ago
@81lubbock Just my thought too. I am trained in both firearms and self-defense and by pulling away from your attacker while you draw gives him the advantage. As he draws the knife, if you put your left hand out toward his forearm while spinning so your back hits his chest gives you the advantage then to pull away while you finish the draw and fire. His momentum forward won't allow him to stop and reverse attack. That split second is time you need to react and defeat the threat.
avardcurt 3 weeks ago
This is a very good video proving the validity of the Tueller drill, which showed that the average person could move 20 feet in less than 3 seconds. Not enough time for anyone to draw their weapon. Even when warned of an attack. I did the drill in 1.78 seconds from a dead stop, and I was fatter back then. This is why the police are allowed to shoot you when you get at 20 feet away. The woman should have had her gun out already and shot at the guy at 19.5 feet distance.
neosteeled001 3 weeks ago
@neosteeled001 "the Tueller drill, which showed that the average person could move 20 feet"
...21 feet.
"in less than 3 seconds."
...in less than 1.5 seconds.
hitssquad 5 days ago
@hitssquad In my defense, I did take the Ayoob class back in 1999 and I couldn't find my notebook with my trial times.
neosteeled001 5 days ago
First learn hand-to-hand fight... Then, learn to use a gun...
Nave4x4 3 weeks ago
Yes... One in the pipe... But also need to learn not to just stand there trying to draw while getting stabbed. Great advantage of firearms is range. You can move and draw at the same time. If you perceive a threat, even if it doesn't yet warrant pulling a gun, maintain distance... If he refuses to let you maintain distance peacefully, the situation warrants pulling the gun.
rajvader 3 weeks ago
If you're going to OC or CC you should feel confident enough in your equipment and abilities to have a round chambered.
lowsten 3 weeks ago
Just FYI, a fully loaded revolver DOES have a round in the firing chamber. I have seen people REPEATEDLY AD & ND them with FIFTEEN pound double action trigger pulls under simulated stress
sbd45acp 3 weeks ago
If you can't confidently carry a firearm with a round chambered, you shouldn't be carrying a firearm in my opinion.
wtfdudenotcool101 3 weeks ago
You also need close combat gun & knife defense...One word...Krav Magaw
jeffweissman 3 weeks ago
@jeffweissman That's 2 words brainiac- Sorry.... couldn't help myself...
sbd45acp 3 weeks ago
And now please tell me why a guy would stab you without any reason and why would you go towards the conflict and not run away.
panicneon47 3 weeks ago
Perhaps consider self-defense training in methods such as krav maga. Knives are quicker on the draw of course in real close situations, but if you are able to get a leg up for a push kick, you could potentially protect your more vital areas by keeping distance for a moment longer.
Furicist 3 weeks ago
I completely agree with you and carry in condition 1 myself.
GeninTengu 3 weeks ago
@GeninTengu Ditto - wouldn't feel comfortable carrying any other way.
brw0625 3 weeks ago
An empty chamber is only slightly better than no gun at all. If you're not comfortable carrying a gun with a chambered cartridge, either get a different gun or carry pepper spray instead.
yz9890 3 weeks ago
My opinion is, as long as you have a holster that covers the trigger area, carry one in the chamber.
Vernonu9 3 weeks ago
You should learn Krav Maga or other similar type of hand to hand combat. Then you can break engagement, gain distance and then draw your firearm. Also, if you had one in the chamber, would you have tried to shoot from high hip one handed and use free arm to block stab, or still try to get to two handed platform??
spikesmw 4 weeks ago
Great demo...didn't expect that from a woman (I know...)
SOSBELLY 4 weeks ago
A firearm without a round in the chamber is an empty gun and an empty gun is just an expensive club.
sharkinfested 1 month ago
why so close . i don't even let my mom get that close to me
AQSKY 1 month ago
I'm in Illinois so.... NO, I don't have the right to carry the way I see fit.
Syre126 1 month ago
Anyone who has studied carry can tell you about the 21 foot rule. That close you're dead no matter what. But yes I always carry on e
NavyCop20070221 1 month ago
@NavyCop20070221 Not always the case..practice, run while you draw, use other self defense techniques.I was attacked by a guy with a knife (I had left my gun at home to put gas)...He was unconcious in 30 seconds.I am an accountant not a Navy Seal.My attacker was stronger and younger but I kept a cool head and after I dropped him and took his knife, I knocked him out with my knee and called 911.Some people say I got lucky..I had been preparing for it for years.Now I carry 2 guns all the time.
SOSBELLY 4 weeks ago
@Fire23eater
Yup, it is!
spahirider15 1 month ago
You must be comfortable with your firearm if carrying an auto pistol with a round in the chamber doesn't set well, carry a revolver with the hammer resting on an empty chamber. five shots is better than the alternative
rdsii64 1 month ago
When do many soldiers die? They die on reloading their guns or jams. If you are in a situation with any sort of threat you need to have dependable and ready to use equipment. Without a round in the chamber, you might as well run away. That will give you better chances of survival rather than an unready firearm.
MrNosfaratu 1 month ago
The music goes well with this video... it makes it sound really important lol
danman281 1 month ago
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shepherdhand 1 month ago
If faced with a person that could be a foe, keep your distance. If they try to attack and you have no time to draw a gun, go hand to hand.
b0mccue 1 month ago
I love shooting and always carry a round chambered in my P230 (I use that for carry) but really the best advice is if you feel the possibility of a threat when you're around someone, leave. Don't stick around and even take the chance of having to TRY to defend yourself. It won't always work out in your favor. But it's better to be safe than dead because you don't keep a round chambered.
Willgtl 1 month ago
@Burnproof12
If you have concealed, then you have open. (in most cases)
spahirider15 1 month ago
thats why I carry a revolver
micromanish 1 month ago
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micromanish 1 month ago
very good video. i was thinking of making a video like this. i am glad a partner that can get the views out there did.
fuyingbro 1 month ago
Damn, did you get stabbed in the boob? LOL I carry a Glock30 with 10 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. With Glocks and their double-action only, I feel comfort carry 1 in the chamber. Also as a rule, with any UNFAMILIAR faces encountered, I always keep at least a 5 feet distant.
hvgiang 1 month ago
Problem is, you go off camera and we cannot see anything...
Stormin024 1 month ago
wish i could have the same rights as they have in the UNITED STATES. too bad i live in CALIFORNIA and have a better chance of jumping over the moon than getting a CCP from the sherif of this asshole city LOS ANGELES. seriously bullshit.
pkendall19 1 month ago
Nice ass
Judas114 1 month ago
Carrying concealed (or open) is only 1/2 the battle. You MUST know basic H to H skills in order to fend off an attacker while you present!
bradleywalters1 1 month ago
Another good tip I experienced first hand: If you feel something isn't right, don't be compelled to stay just because you are armed. Run if you can, before a weapon is produced on either side. It will give you time to think about what you should do next, be that: get some distance, look for an out, or just back off enough to get a clean shot. Best of luck.
CarsandGuns66 1 month ago
Solution to this problem; Carry a revolver.
FrozenKoolAidDude 1 month ago 27
@FrozenKoolAidDude this needs more thumbs up
Towlie84 1 month ago
@Towlie84 My comment? If so, thanks.
FrozenKoolAidDude 1 month ago
@FrozenKoolAidDude What problem ? Carry 1 up.
jscholtz 1 month ago
@jscholtz Carrying a revolver completely destroys the argument of weather or not you carry a round in the chamber.
FrozenKoolAidDude 1 month ago
@FrozenKoolAidDude Yes, but it is not an argument against the semi auto. The semi auto is designed to be carried with one in the chamber - there is no 'problem'.
jscholtz 1 month ago
@jscholtz I'm just point out that carrying an autoloader isn't the only choice for concealed carry.
FrozenKoolAidDude 1 month ago
@FrozenKoolAidDude Solution, don't carry a fucking gun and live in fear your whole life. Fucking stupid rednecks and conservatives. And we wonder why America is the way it is.
Fire23eater 1 month ago
@Fire23eater your right...dont protect yourself....makes sense to me
bombaklokify 1 month ago
@Fire23eater I'm not going to be a pecker and say "Fine, don't carry a gun and get yourself killed" or something, but I will say you're an idiot. And I don't wonder why America is this way, I know it because we're all morons. That's why as soon as I can, I'm moving back to Poland.
FrozenKoolAidDude 1 month ago
@FrozenKoolAidDude There is relatively no difference in safety or trigger pull between a revolver and a DA semi auto. Both simply cannot go off unless the trigger is pulled. The feeling of increased safety people have while carrying revolvers is 100% mental.
zachlarson1122 3 weeks ago
@zachlarson1122 I know. I just prefer the feel of revolvers over an autoloader.
FrozenKoolAidDude 3 weeks ago
bang bang move on...
ladyfeind 1 month ago
i would want a round in battery thats why you carry a gun in the first place. its real and absolutely horrible when someone is shot so i want it over as soon as possible and i want me the fuck out of there with as little damage to myself or my family as i can help. lol if i can help it i don't even want eyes on the threat after he drops i have seen what it looks like and i never want to again if i can help it.
ladyfeind 1 month ago
lol its not real if your already drawing ur gun when he begins his attack
xxuncexx 1 month ago
I use my Ruger SR9 for concealed carry and it has a Glock style double action trigger safety and a manual safety so I feel comfortable with not having a mishap with accidental fire while carrying one in the chamber....Everybody do what you feel comfortable with and stay safe out there.
bmister50 1 month ago
Maybe the first move should not be to draw, but to delay an attack.
maybe even the self defence begins before you are even the film begins rolling: so close to a suspected assailant who could have their hand already on a weapon.
Treblaine 1 month ago
if youre too nervous to carry a round in the chamber then buy a glock. the only way it can discharge is with a trigger pull
darkscope2 1 month ago
@darkscope2 The new Springfiled XD-m's have awesome safety features as well.
TheSavageMusicGroup 1 month ago
@darkscope2 um Yeah, and ALL other guns just go off with the smallest little bump, sigh Youtube gun experts need to get away from the computer more....
vector6977 1 month ago
@vector6977 Ummm.... Exactly where did I say I'm an expert? I never said glocks are the only handgun that doesn't go off. I only mentioned glock because I only know about glock. Looks like you're the only moron here that needs to take a break away from the computer.
darkscope2 1 month ago
I carry inside the pant where my firing hand naturally rests. I keep a round in the chamber and I have a pressure switch on the grip for a laser to help me aim quickly and effectively. And I carry Hornady Critical defense rounds. I also carry a Glock so there is no manual safety to disengage, but it still has the safety on until I'm ready to fire it.
watchmefailit 1 month ago
i always keep A round in the chamber on the streets BUT with the safety ON! my mellenium pro makes it very easy to disengage the safety less then A second very fast no problem. however' when using home defence & the weapon is hidden or conveniently stored away' i do not keep A round in the chamber' because if i hear A weird noise or anything suspicious' i grave my gun then cock it...
iMSoHigh420ritenow 1 month ago
Here in CA, its hard to get a conceal carry permit. Here in Los Angeles it is outright impossible. Before this year we could open carry, but only unloaded (not sure what the point was with that other than to disarm us). Now we can't even open carry at all. HAVE NO DOUBT, THIS IS COMING TO OTHER STATES. Just wait until Obama gets his 2nd term and see what happens.
NoGuff 1 month ago
Jab him in the throat with the end of the rake then beat the snot outta him with the handle and save a bullet.
bobben47 1 month ago
I was hunting with a .22 rifle one day and wearing a Ruger Single Six .22 cal. revolver in a holster with a round under the hammer. I had just lined up a shot when BLAM! The pistol fell out of the holster hit the road and shot my ankle. I was lucky the bullet just missed the tendon at the back of my ankle (Ruger did recall the pistol to fix the problem of firing when you strike the hammer) My choice for a concealed weapon is a Colt Agent 38 sp. W/O a round under the hammer, with a 1911 nearby.
bobben47 1 month ago
I'm agreeing again, this is a good demonstration. Drill your thumbsweeps into your gross motor controls if you carry any weapon at any time with a slide safety.
Don't forget about the 7 yard rule.
XGCScrappy 1 month ago
This is hands down, the best demonstration of why everybody should carry a round in the chamber. You have to be damn well trained to be able to draw and rack the slide under stress. And even those ppl who are, still wouldn't doubt one second in carrying with a round in the chamber. Timing is crucial during the draw, and your life depends on the seconds you take, round in the chamber is the only way to carry imo, if it's a glock, then much better then.
DarkExecutor 1 month ago
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
SHOOT FIRST AND AND THEN SEE WHAT THE FUCKERS ARE SELLING.
1IIIIIIIIII1 1 month ago
The ability to concealed carry is a blessing.
spahirider15 1 month ago 13
@spahirider15 No the ability to open carry is. Stops almost all crime in a 20-30ft area at least. I'm glad i can open carry here in indiana.
Burnproof12 1 month ago
@spahirider15 Ya I suppose it is a blessing to be able to kill people and make america into an even shittier redneck country by perpetuating gun culture which is no longer needed and probably never was.
Fire23eater 1 month ago
@Fire23eater youll be sorry when someone hurts you and all you have is a cell phone to throw at them...if your anti gun dont watch gun videos...go watch charlie bit my finger remixes and feel warm inside
bombaklokify 1 month ago
@bombaklokify lol that guy is a retarded, totally agree with you
DarkExecutor 3 weeks ago
@Fire23eater It's a blessing to kill a bad person. Look at how well the Somalia rescue went. All the "persons of interest" shot dead. No room in the helicopters for pirates. Kill'em! 2 in the chest and 1 in the face. Look at all the money we are saving by not taking them to GITMO.
SOSBELLY 4 weeks ago
@Fire23eater SO, you want all police and the Military to give up their guns too........ right?
sbd45acp 3 weeks ago
"Should you carry with a round in the chamber?" What a silly question, that answer is yes. The real question is, "Do you feel comfortably carrying a pistol with a short 5lb trigger pull, and no safety with a round in the chamber?" My answer is "no" which is why I do not own any striker fired pistols.
jbrown2396 1 month ago
@jbrown2396 wow, I read down, and just want you to know there is a condition 0. I know myself, I know my rigs, I keep track of my surroundings. There are many of us out here who only engage the safety to holster the pistol then immediately disengage it when seated. If you don't feel comfortable with yourself or gear that's fine, I do want you to feel uncomfortable. I carry my 1911, just as a glock, my finger is the safety. PM me, yell at me for being unsafe.
XGCScrappy 1 month ago
@XGCScrappy Condition 0 ( as it applies to 1911 or external hammer guns ) fully loaded mag, round in the chamber, hammer cocked, safety-not engaged. With an inspec 1911 w/ a heavy stock trigger pull & proper functioning grip safety- not significantly diff from a GLOCK. In a holster that covers the trigger- 0 should pose no problems for the trained professional. If you don't want it to go off- don't pull the trigger.You ex-SF?
sbd45acp 3 weeks ago
@sbd45acp Not to be mean and take this as no disrespect, NUNYA. I carry at the ready, I bale from the vehicle my rifle's safety is off. And no I don't go looking for my rifle if the vehicle is on fire, I take my side arm and start looking for who needs help. If it's a fight, I'll be in it and I'll bring home everyone I can. Hopefully myself too. Bless you.
XGCScrappy 3 weeks ago
@XGCScrappy Understood. Keep up the good work.
sbd45acp 3 weeks ago
I think USA govt has failed in its task, if the citizents feel a need to carry a gun with em everyday and be prepared to use it any time.
Makkealamarkus 1 month ago
@Makkealamarkus It doesn't matter what the government does or how people feel. What matters is the right to be able to defend yourself if needed. I think citizens have failed when they give up the right to defend themselves.
equitium 1 month ago
@Makkealamarkus its not the government's "task" to keep us safe. the responsibility lies with us!
HighAsCaptnKirk 1 month ago 5
@HighAsCaptnKirk Amen!
politicjunkee 1 month ago
@HighAsCaptnKirk I agree, it takes seconds to die and about 45 minutes for the police to respond....after somebody calls them :O I'd rather smoke the attacker and have the police fill out the report.
Makarovman 1 month ago
@HighAsCaptnKirk Agreed. Its the governments job to uphold the law, safety is our own responsibility.
JamesSS69RS 1 month ago
I am a gun owner and an Army veteran (11B infantry). I am all for gun rights and self defense... but if you are walking around on a daily basis, with a round in the chamber, and there is no immediate threat... you are a fucking idiot! You cannot prepare yourself for EVERYTHING.. you will most likely shoot someone accidentally (poss. someone who startles you), and be facing a manslaughter charge, at the least.
lightfighter36 1 month ago
@lightfighter36 Yeah the idiot would do that, but the better more experienced person would have no problem, although carrying a gun for some years will bring the amateur mishap, but after you get your experience up as do police and such you'll find it the best way
Reddigitalmusic 1 month ago
@lightfighter36 I respectfully disagree. If you carry with a round in the chamber, have a holster that covers the entire trigger guard, and demonstrate proper firearms safety EVERY single time, you should have no issues. Then again, many people get complacent with firearms safety and start to get negligent, which would then cause an accident. I can see where you base your opinion.Then again, I think the solution is respecting safety every minute of every single day. Take care.
bigapple0828 1 month ago
@lightfighter36 Yeah, I hate to break it to you chief, but the military does exactly shit for pistol training other than "The rounds go in the magazine, and this is the dangerous end". Not all 11B's have lower that triple digit IQ's, but I bet you could name at least a few that were labeled as the platoon fuck up. This shouldn't shock you, but your training was setup in such a way so that guy can get up to speed, and also minimize the risk from "that guy" when he is downrange.
anonj201 1 month ago
@lightfighter36 Ridiculous. If you are sitting at a stop light and someone blows their horn behind you, does you foot jump off the brake and stomp the accelerator to the floor? When do you buckle your seatbelt on? Only when there is an immediate wreck? I understand that you may not be comfortable or able to do it..... but please don't hold the rest of us back.... And the FI language... really unnecessary
sbd45acp 1 month ago