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  • This guy preaches the charismatic version of universalism. This heresy states that the new birth is not necessary because all have been redeemed and they just don't know it yet. Kind of a weird twist on Calvinism. They say God never intended to put any one in hell for their sins therefore all humanity just needs to recognize their "true" standing before God. Or as this false prophet calls it "the gift God put in you before you came into the world." Belief in the preexistence of souls is demonic.

  • @mwilson70201 Thanks, appreciate your comments and insight!

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, scripture speaks much to the deceitfulness from the mouth of a fool, “A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes. Proverbs 18:6 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. Proverbs 26:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul. A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul. “Proverbs 18:7

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, scripture speaks much to the fool who hateth knowledge, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction Proverbs 1:7, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?” Proverbs 1:22 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction .”Proverbs 1:7

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak of those who fall quickly before this altar of apostasy, you who loathe His children, detest His attributes and despise His word. You who are helpless and lost regarding the things of God because you have placed your faith in the wisdom of men. . If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.” John 15:6-7

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak much to these abominations of deceit, who have no regard nor desire for truth, “The desire accomplished is sweet to the soul: but it is abomination to fools to depart from evil. Proverbs 13:19 He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed. Proverbs 13:20 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. “Proverbs 14:8

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, the scripture speaks to you who have contempt for God and his children, you who abhor His will and His Son, you who are bitter, vengeful and prideful, “Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. “Psalm 31:18 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition, “Timothy 6:9

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, scripture speaks to the heart that purseth foolishness, “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly “Proverbs 16:22 “The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom. Proverbs 10:21 A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness Proverbs 12:23, A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.” Proverbs 18:7

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, scripture speak much to parables spoken by fools, “The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. Proverbs 26:7 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools Proverbs 26:9, The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness. Proverbs 15.A fool's wrath is presently known, but a prudent man covereth shame” Proverbs 12:16

  • Woe unto you spiritually dead ones, scripture speaks much to those who lips speak perversely, “Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. Proverbs 4:24 He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief Proverbs 17:20 Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool “Proverbs 19:1

  • Thanks for posting. I've been to a few of his Detroit gatherings from around 2000-2002. This man is a false prophet. Julie Meyer also freestyles false prophecies using the piano. People believe the deceptions because these two play on their emotions. watch?v=cuom4o2XbNY There is a 2 parter stating Jesus is going to "write you a blank check and a give you a great invitation to the media."

  • Sad! This is a man of God covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ, washed in the water of the word, led by the Holy Spirit and mocked because of scoffers and those who have evry itchy ears that have no Love or fear of God. God bless you Brother Clement in Jesus name, amen!

  • he hears mercury, the roman religious messenger god of business and thievery impersonating jesus ... mercury is a poison and a mind-enslaver ... be careful

  • He sure can not sing or rap....that was just awful.

  • Amen and Amen, it is about time the Truth of God became clear and those leading the naive astray would be silenced.

  • There are simply millions and millions of unsaved unregenerated souls who have been convinced they are saved.

    The Holy Spirit came to lead men into ALL Truth, and to convict men of sin.

    These goats who will parish, want sensational happenings and outward manifestations.

    They get what the pay for.

    Poor souls......Judgement begins at the house of God.

  • @TR5T 1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    KJV

  • Kim Clement must be stopped. Absolutely must be stopped.

    @steelwife - I agree 100% with you.

    @Shekanahh - Couldn't have said it better.

    Thanks Jim for the video.

  • @Lukelr Thanks, My guess is that Kim Clement will become a victim of his own ego. If you see his book "Call Me Crazy, but I'm Hearing God" on the dollar shelf somewhere, it gives a pretty good insight into what this guy really is. His first "real spiritual" experience was when his mom took him to visit to a psychic when he was a child.

  • Why give so much attention to satan, not worth it he can only lead them that have no knoweledge of the word .

  • false prophet or not this music SUX!

    but ive seen him . and all it is , is a pump u up talk &,, well this type of music. ps he sweats alot.. gross

  • false spirit

  • I've been to a few of his gatherings in Detroit when I was younger. I believed he was a man of God but did research and he is a false prophet.

  • Brother Jim,

    Thank you for exposing this man. He is NOT a prophet from God!!!!

    I agree 100% when you wrote that if we would just READ our BIBLES!!! There are so many Christians who fall for men like these because they are ignorant of what the Bible says.

    READ THE BIBLE and you will not be deceived!!!

    God Bless!!!

  • Thanks, Steelwife, and AMEN and AMEN!

  • We did not hear him say those words you cut it short and just posted word on the screen and play music anybody and type words and say somebody said this.

  • Please listen again and read the INFO panel.

  • BULL SHIT ARTIST LIKE NON OTHER!!!

  • The guy can't even sing, for starters. Jesus said YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN. Who will you believe? The money grubbing TBN toadie Clement or CHRIST?

  • The LORD said in the Bible if a "prophet" prophesies falsely and his prophecies do not come to pass, he is a false prophet, do not fear him or listen to him. Kim's prophecies do not come to pass. He is a false prophet.

    And when he said you do not have to be born again to have salvation, that is lying against what Jesus plainly said in his Word. This is not trashing, it's just flat out warning people to stay away from this man.

  • Thanks Shekanahh, appreciate your remarks.

    Blessings,

    Jim

  • that is not whats being told here! truth be told God does give use gifts and talents when we are born and we can use them whether we are born again or not but now its better when we are born again because that something thats inside of us gets stronger thru God

  • Brother Jim.

    These parties are so removed from the truth, it's staggering.

    I'm glad to see this video get so many views.

  • Thanks bro Tim, If all church people read their Bibles, these guys would be looking for work.

  • How true brother Jim. We are truly without excuse.

  • there is something inside of kim, satan

    sad thing so call Christians are taken in

    by clowns like this, the lack of bible teaching is lacking everywhere.

  • Thanks! I was surprised when I saw Kim make the "big time" circuit. He was one of those I thought nobody in a real church would ever take seriously.

  • Dear JimQualls Please send me the link to his original doctrinal statement I would like to go and see it myself. I have a good knowledge of scritpture and have noticed that neither I, my Pastor or any of my church friends are perfect. We are all in the process of being sanctified. A few times when I have watched these videos people have taken Kim's words & twisted them... Again, please send the link. You don't minister in love if you take another person and trash them

  • Dear Lollylosha, The link is in the INFO panel. When you get to the page you will have to go back throught the old posts. to reach it. Kim is speaking in his own words here, this is not a contrived video. Kim is speaking in his own words in other videos. Compare what Kim says with the Bible.

  • "But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us." 2 Cor 4:7 My brother each of us were created for a purpose - do you believe that. I think this is what Kim is referring to? If you feel that Kim is doing wrong, go to Kim first, this is what the Bible says to do - say your say and let him say his - you cannot bring him before the "church" before you have gone to him firstly on your own and thereafter with a witness. God loves you

  • Dear Lollylosha, Thanks for your thoughts, but Kim's teachings are clear. We, of course, can NOT know Kim's heart with certainty, but we can compare what he teaches against the Authority of Scripture, and Kim's teachings can NOT be found in Scripture.

  • Read your Bible. Kim is wrong and so are you for defending him. Do some study on 'The Prophets.'

  • Hm, seem to me that I recall Scripture teaching that we are born wicked sinners with NOTHING good inside of us.

  • Hi bikerdisciple, Kim found out that people are more likely to give you money if you tell them they don't need to be "born again" because they already are.

  • W/o Christ there is nothing good in me, but WITH Christ in me "we have this TREASURE hidden in earthen vessels....which is Christ in you the hope of Glory." (Col. 1:27) Could he be referring to that?

  • He claims that everyone is born with this treasure hidden inside of them, waiting to be unlocked. The difference may seem like semantics to some but I think that it creates some major theological issues.

  • Hi, Bikeridsciple, It's not semantics with Kim, he teaches the New Age "jesus" like Oprah and "The Secret." If Kim could have made a better living as a fortune teller you probably would not have seen him in church. He can't compete with the guys in Showbiz like Cris Angel, etc.

  • Yes, I agree with you and The Word of God!!

    We all are called to serve Jesus in some way. That is the treasure I feel that he is speaking of. We each have something special in each one of us He made in order to serve Him with all our might. I personally am now at 47 finding what true happiness and joy truly are. Serving Jesus with the gifts He placed inside of us.

    God Bless you bother! Have a wonderful day :-)

  • Glory to God, freegirl, glad to hear God is doing a "good work" in you. I just turned 47, too and He is teaching me many of the same things.

  • Dear 1rsfreegirl. Without being "born again" the spirit has NO communication with Jesus. That is why Jesus said "Ye MUST be born again." Kim disagrees with Jesus. Kim says you are already born with a treasure. Kim's message is NOT from Jesus.

  • The only thing that is hidden inside of me right now is turd... gotta go!

  • Thanks, gab197,

    Blessings,

    Jim

  • The first time I seen his show on TBN I had a bad feeling ! I watched him a couple times then just started avoiding him all together !

  • Hi, Bonana, I would have a lot more of Kim's videos but my wife said she felt like demons were turned loose in the house. Several years ago TBN had Kim on at Midnight ( That was before they cleaned him up for Prime Time) and I set the VCR to get his shows. I NEVER thought anyone would take this guy seriously, I just used the videos to warn anybody that might come across him.

  • wow what is up with that song that is played over Kim Clement? It's sounds like Satan worship? - "Satan is real.........." Old time religion? man I'm glad I don't go to churches that play that and dance with snakes!

  • Why, if Jesus said, have no one over us but God, because we are all brothers. Why do people have all these so called spiritual leaders?

    They have trickled down religion, from the mother chuch! Many will be decieved!

  • kim is a false prophet.

  • i am so happy you do not find these people on 3abn but yet the majority still has a problem with us.Let me be frank T.B.N is of the devil that is why there are so many false prohets and money hungry preachers.

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  • I really can't understand that anyone would believe this is Jesus' way or how Apostles would preach and bring many to God?! People thirst for fun,for miracles,for living in sin and saying "God is love,He understands.." I ask where is our love for God and wish to die to sin? We can serve only one master,we cannot do Satan's will and say we are of God.

  • Thanks Andrea, It is a shame, but Kim doesn't even have a salvation testimony other than what he "preaches" here.

    Through His Blood,

    Jim

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  • Yes I noticed that,actually I noticed that all this false prophets and likes, that one can find on TV and other mass media are only promoting themselves and not God. Many will have Jesus and God on their lips but will not have that true love for God. I do not hear them call for repentance,need to be reborn,dying to their ego. They are all getting green light by these prophets to live as they used to-in sin.Just like Satan wants them to.And we are approaching serious times...

  • Jim

    The "Strong Delusion" is here already as we can see!

  • Thanks Pete, I had one Kim service where a young lady was writhing on the floor like she was actually demon possessed. I have been serachng fo it. Some I taped over because my wife hated them. She says they are too evil to have in the house. When I did these, of course, I had no idea YouTube was coming and that I would have a chance to actually use them.

  • sounds like a new jazz hit,and a king of false profit ninny

  • Mercy me. I wonder what he's refering to when he says their's something hidden inside of you? Hmmm?

  • Kim found out that if he told people they didn't have to be "born again" because they already were that they would send him money. If church people read their Bibles people like Kim would not be in business in the church, and they would have to go back to nite clubs to do their acts.

  • he can't sing and his mind is wicked lets just pray for him that God will banish his mind and refresh it to clean him trough His blood :)

  • An excellent video. Just one of many, many false teachers that are abroad today. Thanks for posting! :-)

  • Thanks Boosteroid, God bless.

    Jim

  • There is an awesome book but you must have your bible right next to it because the bible was not written in chapter and verse only books.Thus Sayeth the Lord by John Bevere HE IS EXPOSING THESE FALSE PROPHETS,I thank god i was grounded in the word because these people can really fool you if you do not know the word of God.

  • The Bible is the only antidote for false teaching!

    Through His blood,

    Jim

  • This whole "new revelation" penteocostal false gospel is the New Roman Catholicism spreading all over the entire earth through tv leading people away from the True God into wicked heresies just like the Catholics have been doing for just over 1000 years since Leo.

    So many want something new new new new new, it is so disgusting how they mock the ancient and never changing ways and commandments of the True God through the Bible alone and exchange it for their newest plastic microwaved delusion.

  • Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

    The Bible is a FINISHED revelation.

  • AMEN and AMEN!!!!

  • "something hidden inside of Clement"

    how about demons ?

    repititious hypnotic ritualistic

  • Thanks, Jofo817, Demons would be my guess too.

    God bless,

    Jim

  • tbnis very satanic

  • Thanks, kingtaythe2, a lot of people agree with you that this act if from the dark realm.

    Blessings,

    Jim

  • Thanks Jim, I think Clem, I mean Kim, started his act in night clubs. This was from one of the Mid-night shows on TBN before he made the Prime Time line-up.

  • Ohhhh my I dont just believe he is a false prophet but he cant act either or what ever you call it.

  • Rom 5:12

    Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    KJV

  • Rom 5:18

    18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

    KJV

  • There's hidden iside of us,alright,but it ain't good,and it ain't really hidden either.

  • Did he say "break the devil's butt"?

  • Another new age quack, pretending to be a christian.

  • Thanks, DCYahwehsrvant: These guys should have kept their acts in night clubs but they found they could have more success on Christian TV. Doesn't say much for the state of the church today. This guy just finished a tour on Mt Carmel, Israel with GOD TV. He wants people to think he is Elijah, I guess.

    God bless,

    Jim

  • I am so tired of these men who so boldy make their lies and then expect everyone to swollow them. I guess when you have enough people sending in the cash, they don't care about anything. I'll be be glad when Jesus returns so we don't ever have to see this nonsense again. What a sad day that will be for these false prophets.

  • Thanks, Linda. I have so many people write me and tell I am serving the devil beacause I expose the new age flake.

  • Kim Clement = false prophet

  • Thanks, DFcvda, These guys are so brazen when they are proven to be fakes they just proceed to the next lie. They have no shame.

  • what opens the door for men like this is very simple. When people resist the holy ghost baptism, the only mark of being born again, evidenced with speaking in tongues, you get garbage like this. you also get your denominations, useless sinners prayers, meaningless water dunkings and such like. when you argue and bicker against gods holy spirit of promise, dont cry when the devil takes up his throne in the front of your congregation.

  • Dear Exemplar:

    Titus 1:12

    1:12. To emphasize his point Paul quoted from Epimenides, a Cretan poet and philosopher from the sixth century B.C. who was widely believed to be a religious prophet. Though the quotation may originally have referred to a particular lie (viz., that Zeus was buried in Crete, which was especially offensive to those who believed Zeus was still alive), by Paul's day the saying had become a proverb which merely emphasized the low reputations of Cretans generally. BKC

  • I have heard this man give so called prophetic messages before that have not come to pass. God bless. Jim

  • Thanks, jimandlea, Kim claims he was a "prophet" before he met the one he now calls "Christ." His predictions are probably less accurate than most side show psychics.

  • Jim Qualls you and this local pastor are apostates. And I am going to ask the ord to deal with ..you as you are spitting vile against the church of God and His word..get ready hold on...your about to be expelled from ministry.

  • Dear tiannasheaves, If you think this garbage Kim is preaching is from God your prayers won't have any place to go.

    Isa 5:20-21

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

    KJV

  • Praise the Lord that your eyes are opened my brother shalom.

  • Thanks, Israelite, it is great to know there are other Bible believers out there. I hear mostly from those who think the Bible just isn't enough for them.

    I say Kim Clement is what happens when you throw your Bible away.

    God bless,

    Jim

  • Another greedy, arrogant, lying pulpit pimp! The tragedy is not so much these lying bastards exist but that there are people stupid, frightenend, insecure, superstitious and braindead enough to believe in, listen to and support them!

  • JimQualls are you nuts>> Kim Clement is a man of GOD & does NOT in no way shape or form teach these demonic doctrines, be careful what you say about the man of GOD..

    God protects HIS Prophets.. I've been listening to Kim for over 15 yrs now & yet have heardthe rubbish your putting out there against him.. Don't be a tool of satan..nuff said, check yourself buddy..

  • Dear heetiki: Which "god" is Kim's? He certainly contadicts the God of Scripture.

  • wow jim i was going to say why mess with kim everyone knows he is a false prophet but i stand corrected there are some people who dont know i so encourage you to continue to expose this clown

  • heetki i encourage you to search the Word and dont follow fools like kim or todd bentley

  • Is 8:13-20 Sanctify the Lord of hosts let him be your fear and let him be your dread,bind up the testimony,seal the LAW among my deciples,and when they say unto you seek them that have familiar spirits:should not a people seek their God?To the Law and the testimony if they speak not according to this THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM. What is sin?1JOHN 3:4THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW,Rev22:14 blessed are they that do his COMMANDMENTS that they may have the RIGHT to tree of life.Gods word is truth.Peace

  • From the Kim Clement website:

    Life & Salvation: I believe the only way for a person to be saved is through the name of Jesus and by confession that He is Lord. The only way to the Father is by accepting the sacrifice that His Son made by shedding his blood.

    "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach) 9. that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

  • Dear Exemplar Kim DOES NOT preach the Roaman Road. He preaches the NEW AGE doctrine of the "treasure" inside you. Kim does NOT have a testimonyt of a "Roman Road" salvation. Kim changed his doctrinal statement to make it more acceptable to the "Christian" community as he became popular on TBN.

  • There is more to that,Where did paul Quote that from?Deuteronomy 30:10-16 read it! but the wrd is very nigh unto yoy in thy mouth and in thy heart see i have set before you this day life and good death and evil tn that i command thee this day to love the lord your god to walk in his ways and to keep his commandments that you may live. Christ said if you love me keep my commandments jn 14:15 he told the rich young ruler the same to enter into life keep the commandments.1jn2-3-4 continued

  • 1jn2:3-4 he that saith i know him and keep not his commandments is a liar and the truth is not him.

  • A person would have to be a fool to believe that they could get away with not keeping the commandments in the Word. I simply want it to be clear that I am not saying that a person can live like hell and enter into the kingdom.

    I live a life as clean as I know how. YHVH God is and has been moving in my life in very powerful ways recently. The first powerful move was internal when the Word and the Spirit became stronger in my life. That is how it always works. Internal spiritual strength first.

  • But the job of a prophet is to warn the people of what is to come and turn them back to God if he doesnt their blood will be on his hands when the Lord Judges the earth. Read Ezekie l3:17-21and ez33:1-20,rev19:11-21,matt24:2­7-28 Christ is coming to make war.A prophet would warn you.He has alot of blood on his hands because no one will try to change their wicked ways because he is not warning them to.Yes we are under grace so was Noah but he still had to obey and build the arc to be saved.Shalom

  • Of course. I wasn't questioning that. I made no remark concerning that. But much of what is understood about the prophet comes from the old testament. How much about the gift of prophecy of the NT is really understood?

    Interestingly, 1 Corinthians 12 speaks about prophecy in the last few verses. Then Paul said "I show you a better way" and then talks about love for an entire chapter. Then in the first few verse of chapter 14, he mentions that the gift we should most seek is prophecy.

  • Paul goes on to list that prophecy is used to edify (build up), exhort (call near) & comfort (encourage). This needs consideration in light of the other things said in the NT about prophecy.

    Simply put, prophecy has many facets to it and cannot be boxed in to one small set of guidelines. A prophet is more than a person who warns.

  • Dear exemplar, ALL Christian are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. He guides, directs, convicts, exhorts,,,,,,BUT we do NOT need a prophet from the dark side to explain the Holy Spirit's work to us. Salvation through the BLOOD OF CHRIST is the access to the Work of the Holy Spirit....Anyone who claims to be a prophet and is less than 100% accurate is either delusional, or a LIAR.

    Prov 30:6

    Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

    KJV

  • Well DUH. It's no mystery that all true Christians are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. That's not in question. The core issue in the church these days is that far too many have NO IDEA how to hear from God. So who's going to teach them? Are you?

    I don't really care if Clement is right or not. I'm not out to defend him. My point is that there is more to prophecy than warning & judgment. It's in the Word & it hasn't passed away. That which is perfect has not come yet (Love-1 Cor 13)

  • As Word-Faith critic Curtis Crenshaw astutely noted:

    If anything is contrary to Scripture, it is wrong. If anything is the same as Scripture, it is not needed. If anything goes beyond Scripture, it has no authority.

  • If he loved the people that hes "prophesying to" he would try to pull them out of the fire , he would reprove and rebuke with all longsuffering and doctrine.and not make God out to be a powder puff that will just accept everything that you do. The only thing hidden in man is flesh and the works of the flesh are evil...he needs to be telling these people to seek out the book ofGod and obey the word of the Lord thats all I'm saying...Shalom brother

  • No one person fulfills all the requirements in the Word to build up believers. That's why the 5 fold ministry in Ephesians 4 was outlined by Paul. Yes, correction is necessary, but it's not the only thing in the Word. Did Jesus jump down the throat of Mary Magdelene for living the life of a prostitute? Did he chew out Peter for denying Him 3 times?

  • Dear exemplar, If you will read Ephesians 4 you will find there is NO 5 fold ministry there. There were FOUR offices, Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, and Pastor/Teacher. Today we only have two, Evangelists and Pastor/Teacher. The LAST Apostle left the earth with the death of John. Prophets were required to be 100% accurate. There was NEVER an named Gentile prophet, and NO one since the Book of Revelation has been 100% accurate, so there has been NO prophet since Revelation.

  • Prove that there are only 2 offices left. I have been asking you for proof of your position from the beginning and you have provided none. It is manipulative to keep insisting on a belief without providing proof for your position.

    I choose to believe what the Word says, not you. Either produce proof or keep quiet.

    I have proof of my position and Ephesians 4 is not the only reference for it.

  • NO ONE can name a Biblical prophet since the closing of the Book of Revelation, and the walls of the City of New Jerusalem have twelve foundations and in them are names THE TWELVE APOSTELS of the Lamb....no further proof needed.

  • That is your opinion, not evidence. I happen to know of someone operating in the office of prophet who is accurate. That is evidence, not opinion.

    Show me where the WORD says that there will be no more prophets after Revelation. I choose to believe the WORD over man's opinion.

    Matt 7:15-29 says that we will know them by their fruit. Good fruit = good prophet. Grapes cannot come from thorn bushes, figs cannot come from thistles. Obviously, evildoers bear bad fruit.

    There's lots more...

  • Dear exemplar1..then prove me wrong. Prove itg is my opinion. Name ONE, just ONE, real Biblical prophet since the Book of Revelation was completed...just ONE.

  • Dear exemplar! The Biblical definition of an Apostle....Acts 1:21-22

    21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,

    22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.

    KJV

    Name ONE, just ONE, who today calls himself an apostle who meets this definition.

  • Research v22 in the Greek and see that resurrection is defined as "standing up again." Not only that, but it is also defined as "recovery of spiritual truth."

    Yehovah God has been resurrecting spiritual truth in the world since the dark ages. If He wasn't, you would have no Bible in your hands, for it was kept secret from the common people by the church leaders in those times.

    The resurrection of truth continues today...

  • Rev 22:18-19

    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    KJV

  • Exactly, I agree on the infallibility of the Word. Now, let's examine v19:

    If any man shall take away from the Words of this prophecy...

    Take away: to remove, to cut off.

    The Greek root words:

    apo: separation, cessation (cease, stop, end), departure

    aihreomai: prefer for oneself.

    So it means that if any man (person) shall in preference for oneself, cease the Words of this prophecy...

    I read that as saying that no Words in the Bible are to have come to an end at any time.

  • So it becomes evident that I found 13 Apostles - with the 13th one (Paul) being called to the Gentiles, to prophesy to them...

    I found in Acts 19 where Ephesians are prophesying. These are potentially Gentile prophets...

    I found in Titus 1 where a Cretian is prophesying to his own people... This is definitely a Gentile prophet!

    I believe the Word when it says that none of these things shall cease. I believe the Word over the opinion of any man. Including my own.

  • Dear Exemplar, Paul tells us ALL belivers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Men "prophecsied" Jesus is Lord, speaking by Divine Revelation, through the Holy Ghost.

    1 Cor 12:3

    Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    KJV

    If you check Acts 18, you will find that the Disciples of Apollos were from the synagogue. They were NOT Gentiles.

  • Dear Exemplar, Titus 1:12 was NOT referring to a prophet of God. The "prophet" was a poet, perhaps fortune teller from their pagan religion.

  • "I happen to know of someone operating in the office of prophet who is accurate. That is evidence, not opinion."

    You wicked tool of Satan, repent to the True Christ or fall with all the wicked for seducing souls into accepting your false prophets and damnable lies. You wicked shameless heretic.

  • Hi Max,

    It seems like every few days I get a message from someone who claims he knows a real "prophet." They just say that somehow God released them from the 100% accuracy rule. The easiest way to tell a false prophet today is just to watch for anyone who says he is a "prophet." Put a mark by "false prophet" on your score sheet and move on.

    God bless,

    Jim

  • Also, have you considered that the foundation of a building is only the beginning of the building, not the completion? (No disrespect to the 11 apostles that were directly under Jesus where he walked the Earth.)

    In Acts 1, Matthias was numbered among the apostles. That makes 12. In Romans 1 and many other books, Paul is called an Apostle. That makes 13 so far...

    Matthias received the office of apostle from the other apostles. It appears that the authority of an apostle can be delegated.

  • Prov 30:5-6

    Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

    6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

    KJV

  • This video is the dumbest thing Ive seen on here. Oh yeah and you guys are really stupid for letting this video effect you so much. There are bigger things to worry about.

  • Religious spirits abound!

  • Dear robinsurfs, It is time people started to complain about Satan's having free run on "Christian" television.

  • "religious spirits" u mean christians who follow the Word?

  • Thanks, Tspencley. When the enemies of the Bible say "religious spirit" they do mean people who believe the Bible is the absolute Word of God.

    The phony apostle, Peter Wagner of Global Harvest Ministries even wrote a book to train people to get Bible believers out of their churches.

    God bless,

    Jim

  • Anything that is added to or taken away from HIS WORD is considered false prophecy because HE- JEHOVAH THE GOD of the universe does not need mere mortals fashioned by HIS WORD-JESUS to help him out. Jesus also told Nichodemus that in order to obtain eternal life a man must be born again- born of the SPIRIT OF GOD. Please beware what you believe and accept as christianity. We know Satan can come as an angel of light. In christian love. We must be willing to tell the truth- all of it.

  • God bless, Kaydymae:

    Through His Blood,

    Jim

  • Oh I agree that a person must believe to be saved. However, this is what John 3:3 says:

    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the KINGDOM of God.

    Kingdom is a realm, a dominion, a set of laws, policy, a method of doing things. Salvation is not kingdom, it comes through the Romans road: ...if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

  • Go back and re-read Genesis 2 and see that man was not fashioned by God's Word. We were formed (molded like clay) out of the dust of the ground with God's very own hands. Then the breath of life (the Holy Spirit) was breathed into our nostrils.

  • So let's examine Rev 22:19:

    If any man shall take away from the Words of this prophecy...

    Take away: to remove, to cut off.

    The Greek root words:

    apo: separation, cessation (cease, stop, end), departure

    aihreomai: prefer for oneself.

    So it means that if any man (person) shall in preference for oneself, cease the Words of this prophecy...

    I read that as saying that no Words in the Bible are to have come to an end at any time.

  • That chanting or whatever is annoying.

  • Saying something scriptural like Every man is made in the image of God or that to every man is given a measure of faith. Is not contrary to scripture. Why do you have to exaggerate and take things out of context to make your point. If what you say is true than it would be obvious to any reasonable person. Wake up!

  • Dear Shwmusic: There is NOTHING taken out of context here. Kim is preaching his own Satanic new age message.

  • 9/26/08 I just watched this vidio and I saw a man of God being accused of being for satan which I must fair warn the author of this vidio. The person who judges this man of God. The battle is God's and He fights the believers battles. Your not actually mocking this man of God but God Himself.

  • Dear Chickieconda: If you think this man is preaching God's messasge you better check which "god" you are worshipping.

  • Huh? Is there still a man, woman or child who believes this man is from God??? I hope not...

  • Yeah, the thing hidden inside of us that Satan doesn't want us to see is our sin nature. Not some "treasure." If we can't deny our sin nature, then we can't deny that we need something to heal us. And the only thing that can begin the process of healing our fractured nature is the glorious blood of Christ followed following his teachings, feeding the Spirit and not the Flesh so that we may attain sanctification and holiness. The denial of sin is one of Satan's biggest weapons today.

  • Thanks, Jimbo3783. This is what Kim has always taught. He was made a "star" by the phony "prophet" Bill Hamon from Peter Wagner's Global Harvest and ICA. They knew he was a "fortune teller" when they signed him on, but they look at the revenue, not the theology.

  • Check everything with the word of God- people quit listening to man just he is behind a pulpit - Read the word of God yourself - If the Holy Spirit lives inside of you - he is your teacher -quit relying on men so much

  • Thanks, Peter Wagner developed a scheme to remove the Bible from the church so the people could be easily mislead by these new age scam he sends their way through his "prophetic council" of the ICA. Kim is under the covering of Bill Hamon, whose greatest ability is the have people open up to the channeling of evil spirits. He is a master at it. Makes the Holywood gurus look like church choir boys.

  • reminds me of that

    Bleach episode where

    captain Aizen of the Shinagami (death God)

    squad grabed RUkia kukichki and grabed a treasure called the "hougukyo"

    it was a hidden treasure within her soul.

  • Thanks, the7ronin: Kim found out that if you tell people they don't have to be "born again" because they already are that they will give you money.

  • First off, who told this guy he could sing? And write songs? Why do people take him seriously? The Bible says we must be born again! There is no reverence or respect for the Word of God anymore.

  • Sounds like New Age lies!

  • Kim found out that if you tell people they have to be saved because they already are that they will give you money. He like that, so he became a "prophet."

  • JimQualls:

    Jesus said: "Ye MUST be born again."

    Clement is way, way off base.

  • Amen, Staheckie!

    Thanks!

  • We must be "born again" is the principle foundation for which we receive Christ Jesus. However, you cannot reconcile Jer 1:3 with the idea that God did not know us, cannot deposit anything in us (gifts, talents, calling) before we are born again. This is not Scripturally sound. "For the gifts and calling is without repentance". Everyone of us has gifts inside, talents, calling, etc. If we yield to the Holy Spirit, repent and become BORN AGAIN we are indeed reconciled and in God's perfect will.

  • Dear ArdithKay: Kim Clement does NOT believe you have to be born again. He say you already are.

  • Dear ArdithKay: We each have a personality, but we are all born without God and EVIL.

    Ps 51:5

    Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    KJV

  • There are several videos of Kim Clement on this channel. Kim's 2002 doctrinal statement is posted on my blog, ( it was TOO long to put in INFO PANEL ) but it is linked in the Info Panel.

  • In response to "Jim Qualls" - I used Jer 1:3 as an example I never claimed that verse was for Kim Clement. To say God has something inside of you isn't wrong HE DOES, however, your point of Kim Clement not believing in being born again is NOT in this video AND the title is "pentagrams". Just using a star isn't considered a pentagram in the OCCULT arena. Now if it had a circle, maybe!

    There really are other ways to discredit him which I agree he's wrong. This just isn't one of them.

  • Dear ardithKay: Please listen to what he is saying and READ the INFO panel. The link to his 2002 Doctrinal Statement is linked.

    The Bible teaches that man is spiritually DEAD. Only the blood of Christ can "quicken" the spirit. There is NOTHING God puts in us at birth. We are BORN degenerate sinners with NO HOPE other than salvation through the Blood of Christ. ANY other message is from Satan.

  • Dear ArdithKay: Pentagrams do NOT have to be in a circle, BUT there is a slow motion version of Kim Clement Pentagrams On Stage that clearly show that Kim's pentagrams on TBN started and ENDED in a circle of light.

    Blessings,

    Jim