Rather u agree w/ this war or not, General Petraeus will go down in history as one of the great war time Generals of the modern age. His name will become as familiar to future generations as MacArthur, Eisenhower, Montgomery, or Rommel is to ours. This man single handedly turned what looked like a hopeless war into an astounding success for the US and UK. So much so that it is now statistically safer to walk around downtown Baghdad as an American than it is to walk around downtown Detroit!
The "surge" did nothing but help contain our failed "hearts and minds" mission. Bush went in with grossly inaugurate troop numbers, fired the Iraqi military and police force- leading to looting, total chaos and civil war.
It's not a victory- it was a band-aid on a failed war strategy. The "surge" at best slowed the problems cause by poor leadership. The "surge" is also responsible for our failed war in Afghanistan. Troops were diverted to Iraq leaving the mess we have in Afghanistan today.
Good of Gen. Petraeus to go on FOX and talk about this. I'm sure his responses must have been shaking Chris Wallace to the core. I respect Gen. Petraeus even more than I did and I had a great deal of respect for him already.
sry treasonous liberal KataVideo it isnt the conservatives protecting terrorists,it isnt the republicans allowing miranda rights on the battlefields.....yeah and I wonder why "we the people" watch fox news hmmmm the ratings speak for themselves...
now run along and support your local terrorist,what liberals do best
conservatards are traitors. conservatards bombed the oklahoma city federal building killing dozens of babies, conservatards bombed olympic park, conservatards murder doctors and church goers. conservatards are terrorists by definition.
hellpig, a horrible and pathetic attempt at revisionist history. you're a very stupid conservatard.
Lincoln was a Great American Liberal. A confederacist conservatard shot him.
A conservatard racist shot MLK.. racism is purely conservative.
Who shot JFK? lol..
An arab nationalist nut shot RFK, because of RFK's support for Israel.. other than that, arab nationalism has nothing to do with the American Left nor the American Right.
A fat goof who wanted to impress a lesbian actress shot reagan.
what did that guy do to 'earn' all of those merit badges? LOL.. I think the blue one is "best hygiene", and the red and white one is "miss congeniality".. this is a joke.
the actual troops who do the fighting and the dying will never see 1/100 of those ribbons on that guy's chest'
4 Legion of Merits, A Bronze Star, 2 Distinguished Service Awards, 3 Army Commendation Awards, and numerous others over a career spanning from the 1970s.
And what do you want to do? Use innuendo that he didn't earn those. Yeah. Okay. Got some facts to support that BS that shows any of those were not earned or are you just going to sling mud and hide behind your user name??
no. i'm saying american soldiers walked around handing out cash to people who used to kill american soldiers so they would not kill american soldiers. what part didn't you understand?
Ok guys stop picking on FOX. It is totally fair and balanced. As we all know you can only be unbiased and true if you're full of republicans and appeal to their needs.
I wonder how long it'll take Fox to admit it's a Republican network and cut this crap of being objective and fair and balanced. No "objective" network would force Van Jones to resign and treat him the way they did.
Obama is a hypocrit for a whole different set of reasons. although it is hypocritical to lambaste a policy in public, then employ the same policy to your benefit later.
its not simple when you want the specifics, that involves me wasting more of my valuable work time. If you really want to know, send me a message to my inbox, and in my free time I will detail what you ask.
My understanding of the surge is, we added troops, paid off a lot of people, did a little cultural understanding, & got the Iraqie security forces to do joint operations with us.
My conservative buddy says "our might scared them!"
Personally I dont think we ever should have gone there.
I hoped we would have put roops on the borders, then gave Saddam an exile offer like Idi Amin, The Shah, or Marcos, leaving Iraq intact with a functioning government.
your observations seem rational, I agree. Iraq was mishandled and was not necessary. your short list of the contents of the surge also seem to match my thoughts on the matter. I still see this current strategy in Afghanistan as a version of the surge in Iraq. all I want is for America to take its role in Afghanistan seriously and alleviate the burden on other members of Nato.
local forces were fed up with some of the extreme violence and the us military tried to get some of the laurels by throwing in some troops while and after it happened, it was a political maneuver, but all that doesnt really matter, the entire context is completely distorted by demagogic schemes and traditions, and so is just about everything of the american perspective
Well, no duh. Obviously he feels surges work or he wouldn't have implemented one in Afghanistan. It's not really whether it works is the question, it's whether that cause justifies the lose of human life. And in the case of Iraq I can say NO.
I remember far back in the campaign debates Senator McCain called Obama out on the Iraq Surge, and Obama acknowledged then that the Surge was a success, but noted that McCain "was acting like the war started in 2007!", noting that the war was managed poorly prior to that.
Always doing whatever distortions they can to discredit the Obama Admin. and they still say they're "Fair and Balanced". disgusting.
GOP news network is a more accurate name, i think.
Rather u agree w/ this war or not, General Petraeus will go down in history as one of the great war time Generals of the modern age. His name will become as familiar to future generations as MacArthur, Eisenhower, Montgomery, or Rommel is to ours. This man single handedly turned what looked like a hopeless war into an astounding success for the US and UK. So much so that it is now statistically safer to walk around downtown Baghdad as an American than it is to walk around downtown Detroit!
ajr666 1 year ago
what a great general
Gamahlee 2 years ago
lies based on lies based on lies, this guy is one of the worst most criminal people on the planet
random0815 2 years ago
The "surge" did nothing but help contain our failed "hearts and minds" mission. Bush went in with grossly inaugurate troop numbers, fired the Iraqi military and police force- leading to looting, total chaos and civil war.
It's not a victory- it was a band-aid on a failed war strategy. The "surge" at best slowed the problems cause by poor leadership. The "surge" is also responsible for our failed war in Afghanistan. Troops were diverted to Iraq leaving the mess we have in Afghanistan today.
mintvagoo 2 years ago 2
If the surge worked, why are we still in Iraq?
1samothrace77 2 years ago 5
Good of Gen. Petraeus to go on FOX and talk about this. I'm sure his responses must have been shaking Chris Wallace to the core. I respect Gen. Petraeus even more than I did and I had a great deal of respect for him already.
Iceberg6606 2 years ago 2
The only thing that´s been successful in Iraq is ruining the country ...
Over 1 million ppl has been killed due to the American "liberation"
Surge a success ?????
Why are Iraqi refugees still poring in to EU and mostly to Sweden ..
Same with refugees from Afghanistan
LeilaKmusic 2 years ago 4
FEAR FOX
All treasonous liberals do
Hellpig 2 years ago
Well, then as a patriotic liberal with libertarian leanings, I will not fear fox, Hellpig.
balanceseeker 2 years ago
you admit being a libertardian?
KataVideo 2 years ago
the treason is on the conservatard propaganda network faux noise
KataVideo 2 years ago
sry treasonous liberal KataVideo it isnt the conservatives protecting terrorists,it isnt the republicans allowing miranda rights on the battlefields.....yeah and I wonder why "we the people" watch fox news hmmmm the ratings speak for themselves...
now run along and support your local terrorist,what liberals do best
Hellpig 2 years ago
conservatards are traitors. conservatards bombed the oklahoma city federal building killing dozens of babies, conservatards bombed olympic park, conservatards murder doctors and church goers. conservatards are terrorists by definition.
KataVideo 2 years ago
nice history revisonism...McVey was a demoRat
and treasonous liberals have killed 60 million babies ...
leftist shot JFK
Leftist shot MLK
Leftist shot RFK
Leftist shot Reagan
Leftist shot Lincoln
see the pattern yet you america hating terrorist defending treasonous liberal piece of shit?
Hellpig 2 years ago
hellpig, a horrible and pathetic attempt at revisionist history. you're a very stupid conservatard.
Lincoln was a Great American Liberal. A confederacist conservatard shot him.
A conservatard racist shot MLK.. racism is purely conservative.
Who shot JFK? lol..
An arab nationalist nut shot RFK, because of RFK's support for Israel.. other than that, arab nationalism has nothing to do with the American Left nor the American Right.
A fat goof who wanted to impress a lesbian actress shot reagan.
KataVideo 2 years ago 4
Maybe he's a conserva-turd?
Zakdayak 2 years ago
true!
KataVideo 2 years ago
hellpig is too far gone. Facts can't change his mind.
ETericET 2 years ago
I say you're treasonous and you fear Obama Hellpig.
As long as we're just making up shit that has no bearing in reality.
IAMtheNewWorldOrder 2 years ago 3
yeah I dont fear ObaMao he has awakened the "We the People" majority it is him that fears us.
hows that hope and change working out for ya??
LOLOLOLOLOL
Hellpig 2 years ago
Lol, the things you guys are really afraid of are books, facts, stats & the truth.
IAMtheNewWorldOrder 2 years ago
And the "hope and change" is working out for me better than the destruction and despair, which was the other choice we had.
IAMtheNewWorldOrder 2 years ago 2
Commentator Chris Wallace, er, I mean straight news guy: "I..I, I...I...so, he will now acknowledge..."
What a goofy excuse for a serious news anchor. Petraeus couldn't get through if he wanted to.
alteredlame666 2 years ago
Fox News always looking for the twisted sound bite.
gallomex13 2 years ago
"ok, so you had a fine discussion about principles and ideas, BUT, did he FINALLY say something good about Dubya?
junkforkaryn 2 years ago
what did that guy do to 'earn' all of those merit badges? LOL.. I think the blue one is "best hygiene", and the red and white one is "miss congeniality".. this is a joke.
the actual troops who do the fighting and the dying will never see 1/100 of those ribbons on that guy's chest'
KataVideo 2 years ago
4 Legion of Merits, A Bronze Star, 2 Distinguished Service Awards, 3 Army Commendation Awards, and numerous others over a career spanning from the 1970s.
And what do you want to do? Use innuendo that he didn't earn those. Yeah. Okay. Got some facts to support that BS that shows any of those were not earned or are you just going to sling mud and hide behind your user name??
balanceseeker 2 years ago
don't forget the pinewood derby, dog care and landscape architecture.
KataVideo 2 years ago
BRIBING the Sunni Arabs in Iraq worked great. That surge worked.
Ryguy1450 2 years ago
General is pure class - unlike that clown of fix news who keeping talking about the same dumb thing - wow
this guy (Chris) is better than that but he is sounding like a weak rookie news guy.
Shiftyeyes516 2 years ago
No rear mirrors, move on, don't discuss the past - if so - if so for them - then it must be the same for citizens.
They can not create laws and policies that they do not honor.
SamariaTV 2 years ago
if by "surge" you mean "bribing insurgents so they wont attack"
jtilak 2 years ago
bribing? Are you saying Suni's should work pro bono? There is a difference between bribing and paying for a service.
awerner2007 2 years ago
no. i'm saying american soldiers walked around handing out cash to people who used to kill american soldiers so they would not kill american soldiers. what part didn't you understand?
jtilak 2 years ago
This is an often overlooked point, that and Iran's influence of the Mahdi cease fire.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Foxshit always want to score a political point and create drama which isn´ttttttttttttt therelol.
Waranle 2 years ago 2
Ok guys stop picking on FOX. It is totally fair and balanced. As we all know you can only be unbiased and true if you're full of republicans and appeal to their needs.
MetalEagle95 2 years ago
Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL)
DemonicGemini 2 years ago 5
that's the most logic explanation.
kudos to you..:)
TheMegapirate 2 years ago
I wonder how long it'll take Fox to admit it's a Republican network and cut this crap of being objective and fair and balanced. No "objective" network would force Van Jones to resign and treat him the way they did.
whoo689 2 years ago
"Fair and balanced" Fox stakes its entire foreign policy credibility nowadays on "proving the surge worked." They're so biased.
whoo689 2 years ago 3
Afghanistan/ Iraq = Stalin-grad
boots920 2 years ago
Its ok to say that the surge was a success. But one battle won, in a war that shouldve never been fought, is not complementing the war itself.
This does not make Obama a hypocrite in the least.
EmpathyWorks 2 years ago 2
Obama is a hypocrit for a whole different set of reasons. although it is hypocritical to lambaste a policy in public, then employ the same policy to your benefit later.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago 2
Could you tell us EXACTLY what the SURGE consisted of?
EXACTLY, what did we do?
What were the components?
Very simple question, will you answer it?
lifeseeker1 2 years ago
its not simple when you want the specifics, that involves me wasting more of my valuable work time. If you really want to know, send me a message to my inbox, and in my free time I will detail what you ask.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
I'll go to that home page thingie.
My understanding of the surge is, we added troops, paid off a lot of people, did a little cultural understanding, & got the Iraqie security forces to do joint operations with us.
My conservative buddy says "our might scared them!"
Personally I dont think we ever should have gone there.
I hoped we would have put roops on the borders, then gave Saddam an exile offer like Idi Amin, The Shah, or Marcos, leaving Iraq intact with a functioning government.
lifeseeker1 2 years ago
your observations seem rational, I agree. Iraq was mishandled and was not necessary. your short list of the contents of the surge also seem to match my thoughts on the matter. I still see this current strategy in Afghanistan as a version of the surge in Iraq. all I want is for America to take its role in Afghanistan seriously and alleviate the burden on other members of Nato.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
local forces were fed up with some of the extreme violence and the us military tried to get some of the laurels by throwing in some troops while and after it happened, it was a political maneuver, but all that doesnt really matter, the entire context is completely distorted by demagogic schemes and traditions, and so is just about everything of the american perspective
random0815 2 years ago
What's insane about all this, is then why are we there 8 years with all these "successes"???
maplespak 2 years ago
I don't think Obama said it didn't work, rather, there shouldn't have been a surge in the first place.
zeroepyon 2 years ago
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inmyforties 2 years ago
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inmyforties 2 years ago
Well, no duh. Obviously he feels surges work or he wouldn't have implemented one in Afghanistan. It's not really whether it works is the question, it's whether that cause justifies the lose of human life. And in the case of Iraq I can say NO.
FullOfFail 2 years ago
Fox News, lying again.
I remember far back in the campaign debates Senator McCain called Obama out on the Iraq Surge, and Obama acknowledged then that the Surge was a success, but noted that McCain "was acting like the war started in 2007!", noting that the war was managed poorly prior to that.
Always doing whatever distortions they can to discredit the Obama Admin. and they still say they're "Fair and Balanced". disgusting.
GOP news network is a more accurate name, i think.
asphyxiafeeling 2 years ago 12
So true.
MopacMurtaza 2 years ago