Hubad and knife tapping drills

[jamiirali1]

what is interesting is that the ones who criticise this drill cant even perform it on the basic level much less the alledged "real world" knife skills that they say would nullify every tapping drill ever performed.i wish i had knowledge of this tapping drill when me and my two friends were fighting off five guys (two had bottles and i had the misfortune of fighting empty hand vs. a knife). i didnt get slashed but knicked a couple of times. my footwork (forward "V") saved me. excellent video!

[funtime1324]

Amazing , vibrant and great flow of energy.Good job guys! and for wtfronsson .First thing that i have learned in my years of martial arts practice is the ability to release the negative energy in my mind and the ability to appreciate good actions from other people.Try an introductory class and you will see what i mean.Once you immerse yourself in training you might even say ......its very spiritual.Live and learn my friend.

[wtfronsson]

looks sort of silly. i think if i was wielding the knife and _really thrusted_ those techniques would make very little difference on the outcome. seems the knife guy is complying too much. that does not seem a good way to practice defending your life.

[Elhananm]

@wtfronsson

Hi Tnx for responding,

Obviously you don't understand what's going on on this clip.

This is a DRILL it is by NO MEANS a fight nor sparring training.

This is knife tapping and Hunbad drill for training flow and sensitivity, this drill is only for skill development.

Ans a small suggestion from me....Don't think....just do..it seems like you thinking too much.

[wtfronsson]

@Elhananm you are right, I dont understand. I just thought the knife guy would never be that easy in real life so whats the point of training easy. but after giving it a thought I sort of understand this "flow practice". I guess it would be important to do this against many different types of people, and not just one guy. liking the video.

[Elhananm]

@wtfronsson

Indeed, in order to develop good Flow skill and adhesive skill one should train with as many as possible different people.

Each person moves different, strikes different etc. a Although the principles are stay the same, we should develop skill to flow with different types of contact, this comes only with experience.

[FLippssalot]

@Elhananm

I couldnt help but voice my opinion. As someone whos been training in Kali for a couple years now, I have at least scratched the surface of it. As far as knife tapping goes (as seen in the video), this is a drill, but you have to agree that their is reason to the drill other than skill, there are definite applications to a knife confrontation. Its hard for some to understand that as they havent seen it before. You arent gonna knife tap the guy all day of course. Prob. for 1-3 beats

[slimetcake]

Pro :)

[PLATOwithaSHOTGUN]

good drill..mabuhay! O lethal Kali.

[flattop44sc]

Always believed you never bring a knife to a gun fight

[Elhananm]

@flattop44sc

Same here....So what's the news about it?

[Rapist87]

@flattop44sc Yeah gun beats knife - provided your already aiming a loaded and made ready weapon at the knife guy from a distance of at least 22 feet. If you answer "no" to any of those criteria..... you and your gun (and your Femoral and Brachial arteries) are gonna have a real bad day

[flattop44sc]

This is the dumbest shit ever.Watch an old film,"surving edged weapons", that crap is hollywood.Knife fighting is messy,bloody and both usually come out losers

[Elhananm]

Flattop44sc,

Thank you for your comment and insight.

Though I'm really like good and correct criticism, your does not meet these standards nor relevant to what is shown on the clip.

What is shown in the clip is a way of training flow and action-reaction skills, nothing at the above drill is a set form/drill...there fore all that you see is a free flow drill dressed on the basic knife tapping and hubad.

Good luck to you my friend and peace.....

[badmuts1992]

you guys also use Krav' maga?

[Elhananm]

@badmuts1992

Hi,

No we don't use Krav Maga, though we have back ground in other martial arts styles and systems.

[evilltorb]

thumbs up if the first thing u thought of when the music started was matrix :D

[hunggarguy]

best Hubad I've seen.

[Elhananm]

@hunggarguy

Hi Hung gar guy,

Thank you for your comment.....

[bayyagg]

Hahahah!

I survived in one crazy knife attack from some DiCKHEAD in Manila!

First train urself to DODGE any knife attack, TiMiNG is the essential part when u could hit BACK, and try to train urself to run BACKWARDS!

Got only one CUT to my hand, but BEAT the hell out of that ARSEHOLE!

Hahahahah!

[RiverSiege]

This is quite beautiful to watch

[Elhananm]

@RiverSiege

Hi Thank you for watching.

[panthersquad]

1:55 Game ender.

[webursio]

very nice job!

[Carl2]

What accures in a knife fight is a block/pass and counter with one or both hands.

How you do it doesn't matter, most of these videos show a committeed individual either extending or over extending to start the attack or drill. That extentsion is some times not realistic. The short choppy cuts and stabs are realistic because is someone was to kill you they would have a large possiblity of doing it and you not know it.

[glendesha1976]

This was a joy to watch. Thank you for posting

[mojonm]

Thats awesome drilling..............so were can I get some instructional dvd's , it seems aeverones diffrent?

[Rico8458]

excellent drill.

[Fightenthusiast]

This is actually the first youtube video I've downloaded a few years ago! It's been 3 years and I'm still watching it! Hanan and Yosi are the real deal! Keep it up, brothers! Thank you for keeping the Filipino Defense Arts alive! Greetings from Rapido Realismo Kali Philippines!

[Fightenthusiast]

This is one of my most favorite youtube videos ever! If I could give this vid 1 million stars, I would've!

[blackwaterdrowning]

The way you train is the way you fight.

[Elhananm]

It's very populistic saying that is good for marketing but oriven in correct in reality.

Do you train with life blades, cause you fight with live blades?

When you do basic movments slow or in different veriations do you do the same in a fight.

Training is to gain usefull skill so you will be able to execute techniques in a fight. You never fight like you train...it's a fentasy! I really admire those that are fighting exectly as they train- if there are anywhere those who can do it..

Hanan

[bsumiko]

@Elhananm I agree with you 100%. NOBODY trains the way they fight. Well, some actually do, but that's plain stupid. When Marines train, do they shoot at each other with real bullets? Of course not. When they practice hand-to-hand combat, do they go at it with real knives? Of course not. Even when the Dog Brothers spar, they use fencing masks and hockey gloves, and they hold a little back. To fight without a fencing mask would be VERY realistic, but it would also be very stupid.

[dockilat]

@Elhananm

VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE PRACTICING FCS..why did you have to say anything against KALI in your other video when you are already interested in it..OK KID GOOD WORK IN PROMOTING FMA,

KRAV + KALI= THE MOST EFFECTIVE/PRACTICAL FIGHTING ART

[JasonHeriford]

Pause at 40 sec and observe the terrible vulnerability in this drill. This gaping, unprotected whole is repeated by all the imitators. Can you imagine how many thousands of people would die in a real situation due to the fact that they have rehearsed this mistake countless times? So sad.

[Elhananm]

Part 1:

Dear Jason,

While we at CFMA always happy to recive any critique I must object to your due to few reasons:

1. While pousing the clip is taking a move out of context, in this case it's flow, in Kali we never stop we flow, you should know that.

2. Pousing in any given transition state of the move will make it look vulnerable.

3. In sec 40 I see a check on the knife, I don't know what you see, are we watching the same clip?

continue at part 2:

[Elhananm]

Part 2:

4. I just watched the clip on your channel please pouse at sec 11.

If this is not a terrible vulnerability than I don't know what is.

Always a pleasure to discuss martial arts with fellow prectitioners.

Best regards

Hanan

[JasonHeriford]

Which Clip would you like me to 'pause' on?

[Elhananm]

This one, the one on your channel named:

"Austin, TX Kali-Silat Knife Drills "

Sec 11

[JasonHeriford]

I understand that your point is that there is comparison between the knife tapping drill and the exercise for c-clamping and countering when someone tries to cut you when you are caught holding their wrist. They are apples and oranges. Yours is a complete drill. Mine is an exercise isolating a specific circumstance that often occurs in a knife fight.

[Elhananm]

No you didn't understand.

I did not compare between the two.

I just wanted to emphasys to you that its very easy to critisize techniques while pauseing a clip and take it our of the overall context of the specific application.

And no I'm not agree that you fight like you train....

Sometime we train in certain way to gain specific skill or feel of techniques/principles that later on will serve us as we gain deeper understanding of what we do.

[JasonHeriford]

Your elbows are up in the air. The ribs are exposed. It is a straight shot for anyone who knows the origin of this drill to stick you hard! Sadly it is a confused interpretation of the original drill that everyone is practicing, and the few who know the true practice won't post it, because this material is not for the masses. CONSIDER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WATCHING!! This is too much information for people who have the wrong intentions. Not trying to upset you...but protect you...and others!

[Elhananm]

Think about th people that can protect themselves only by understanding the concept of Knife tapping.

[JasonHeriford]

Ok. I'm sorry for pushing your buttons. Teach it your way.

[Elhananm]

No my friend...don't flatter yourself.

There are no botton to push, I'm always into learning new things and new insights.. but only when they are logic based.

You paused a clip and took a motion out of the context.

[JasonHeriford]

The pause was to emphasize one point in the drill that the mistake is made in motion. The way you are doing the drill, the only way anyone would not get cut is if they agree not to stab you in the ribs. This discussion has proven to fall on deaf ears. Good luck!

[Elhananm]

Just to summerize.

You say it's ok to pause a clip ( mine in this case) and shoe the week points of getting cut.

But when I pause you clip named : "Austin, TX Kali-Silat Knife Drills" on sec 11 and show that your foe can kick you in the head while you this rediculus bending, you say that I'm not right?

You right on one thing:

It's indeed fall on your deaf ears, but we do agree on something which is: That we don't agree at all/

Good luck to you too my friend.

Hanan

[carbonlaminate]

@Elhananm that's right! you tell 'em pal.

[JasonHeriford]

of course Kali is about flow, but this weakness in the way you drill is so easy to take advantage of that the most inexperienced knife fighter will easily kill someone doing this! THEY WON'T NEED YOU TO 'PAUSE' IN ORDER TO DO THIS! It's just wide open lungs and livers and intestines and gooey goodness.

[Elhananm]

This drill is NOT sparring NOR fighting.

This drill as practiced in the clip is a flow and sensetivity drill, to gain skill.

Note that there are no pubches, kicks locks etc.

It's only a demo of how to do a certain flow and sensetivity drill to acuire skill.

I'm sure your experienced enough to know the difference between training for skilland fighting/spparing situations.

Thanks for your comments,

[JasonHeriford]

Who mentioned anything about sparring? The bottom line is that you fight the way you practice, and this way of practice will lead to dead practitioners.

Using the early hand to initially engage the attackers blade hand is the watered down version. Watered down to offer beginner students until they prove themselves trustworthy.

Removing the knife wielder's tapping hand with your right hand and right elbow in the air is the invention that concerns me the most. The knife can taste lungs!

[MisterBingley1]

Excellent

[jkdsilat7]

Nice!!

[fatram]

i love these sort of flow drills.they have a dance quality that is their own. thank you

[joey349harry]

nice drill

[YoniIsrael]

שלום הייתי שנה שעברה (או לפני שנתיים) בסמינר שהגעתם עם ריקו לבאר שבע לדוג'ו של משה גליסקו-תהיתי עם יהיה סמינר כזה שוב בקרוב.

[bknives]

Not trying to be an asshole here but why would you bring the knife back across your body once its out of range? is that part of the platform of the drill?

[Elhananm]

Hi there,

That's a good point that you noticed it.

You right usually we won't take back the knife but....

Here it's a drill which we put at the time emphasis on learning basic knife tapping/hubad, there for we had to give the partner enough time to adjust and react. It's only for the drill in higher speed and kevel you won't see it happening.

Good point tough...

[yin0625]

excellent

[FaceInTheRain]

Awesome clip. I like the music too...who is it?

[kjnchris1]

Looks like Sayoc Kali, and a blend of other filipino knife flows. Good hand speed though.

[Elhananm]

Indeed, we do FCS Kali ( close to Sayoc) and Pambuan Arnis with BGZ ( Ba Gua Zhang).

Keep in touch

[costaricanhero]

wow cool! Very cool dril! I added it to my favorites, so later on I'll try that drill by myself :-)! Btw, a simple question: It looks like a mixture between wt and fma- am I right/wrong?

[Elhananm]

Hello,

Thanks for your opinion.

It's not WT and FMA it's BGZ (Ba Gua Zhang) and FMA ( FCS Kali and Pambuan Arnis).

All the best

[NewZealfighter]

I notice no keyboard warriors are say bullshit to these guy and that is for a good reason

they clearly know what they are doing and anyone would come off as a complete fool to give them any nay say

[Elhananm]

Hi There,

Thank you for your support.

I have removed one comment since it contained unpolite response from another user.

Will be happy to be in touch.

[KunSiKa]

Aloha Guys,

That was a good flow and transition drill you've both got going. Was the drill done at medium range ? or varied through out the drill ? Again nice training drill !!!!

[rakno7754]

Everything looks good except your foot work. the two of you look off balance and a little exposed

[Elhananm]

Hello guys,

Thank you for commenting on my vids and channel.

I accept all critisizm only if it's said in a polite manner and language.

Please don't make me delte more comments...

Thank you

[kalienpo]

dont worry ........hes just bi............polar

[kalienpo]

by close meaning the art not and no one said these guys were good . as hole

[kalienpo]

listen for all u kung fu watching sissies. If uuuu havent trained in the phillipine system where knife fighting families derived and still dwell then my friend ur defense against anyones knife is useless. all training cant simulate real fights. but this is the closest most realistic way to prepare for it and by the way the shock knife makes the threat real !

[RockinMama4]

tapping is a lot fun!

[gullygoogoo]

This drill is really good, for those that dont know or ask stupid questions - they are active reflex drills. So your body naturally can pick up the knife from as many angles as its delpoyed.

These drills have their place in training and I guess only by training them plp will see that.

Keep up the good work guys

[thesabinul]

parca s copiii lu rizea

[lamecomaster]

It's only a drill!In kali-Silat fight is on the side.

[yabba101]

I respect this requires some skill but what if someone had a knife in their right hand and their left arm for a strike. Then with you distracted they can utilize the knife.

[Elhananm]

Hi There Yabba101,

I'm not sure that I undeestood your quesion but I will try to answer.

Usually when someone holds a knife he will use it and not his empty hand (it's logical to use the weapon), but if he strikes it's ok I will react to the strike.

My first priority is to handle the knife this is the main threat.

I hope I answered your question, if not please elaborate.

[lazze1833]

i respect all here!one point though,it is not the knife "that is attacking you"it is a person,the knife is a extension of your arm.

A novice with a knife,will often strike "non text book"and very hard to defend against,also a trained person holding a knife,is equally hard to defend against,as he or she will or should"study"your fighting method.

To end train hard,but remember this"overly confident" can lead to "well I think you know what I am getting at" be safe and be well.

[Elhananm]

Hi Lazze1833,

I'm not sure that you responded to me but I will relate to your opinion.

We don't train on "text book attacks", we always assume and training under the assumption that the guy with the knife is skilled (this is our starting point).

You right that I'm not fighting the knife but rather the guy holding it BUT my first priority is to fight the threat and disarm it, only then I will fight the person.

[Elhananm]

You see... I can kick, punch, hit, strike etc. but while doing it I can get cut.... there fore the knife first!!!

I hope I answered the question

[kingpimpbob]

its a good vid bt if ur opponent knows how to throw knives, ur fucked. The hand to hand a is a good art though

[Elhananm]

If he can throw knves.... it means that he's standing with some distence from me, so what do you think about:

a. Run away (a sure way to stay alive)

b. Shot the bastered down with my 9mm hand gun.

I wish some of you guys would think before you write.

[P1lotBoy]

haha, like that

[DameonWolfDemon]

Keep in mind ladies and gentleman this is NOT how these guys would fight if a knife was involved. Drills train you to feel a moment and take advantage of that moment. Trying to fight like this when a knife is involved would be insanity.

[Elhananm]

Well said.

These are only conditioning drills for appropriate moving and learning the principles of how to intersept a knife.

[Elhananm]

You are right!

This is only Flow DRILL, we do it with full speed and power to train the flow under extrem fight pressure, to be ready for the real deal....

[AssassinClone]

Do you know Krav Maga?

If so I have another question.

[Elhananm]

I know Krav maga....Only from my training in it at the IDF.

What is your question?

[AssassinClone]

How slmilar is this to Krav Maga. i

Is there anthing thats the same?

If so can you base your training in CFMA off of it?

[Elhananm]

Actually the similiarties are rare.

Krav Maga is mostly empty hand fighting and has very basuc skills for fighting- which is a very big advantage of this system, that's way it became so popular in the last 15 years. However in recent years people in the UDF and in other security forces and units understod that it's not enough and started to integrate different material such as Filipino Martial Arts.

.

[Elhananm]

That's what I and my partner try to do here in Israel, to create an awearness to theses systems in the realistic world.

The is no connection between CFMA and Krav Maga, but we do instruct our material to Krav Maga guys or others that are interested

[login76]

there is little (or less) skill involved in krav maga. KG is like self-defense crashcourse 101

[timebird78]

Good flow, good vid.

Well done.

[VineryGT]

Looks pretty much like Wing Chuns chi sao and lat sao drills. Nice video.

[issiissiii]

世界にはさまざまな武術がありますねえ。

[googlebot2]

are they using the real knife??

[Elhananm]

no.

We are using Aluminum knife.

[ninja1shinobi]

Five*****

[GuiLongUmar]

Very Very nice. Excellent sticking, I see the chinese influence.

Impressed.

[Elhananm]

Thank you Guro Harold.

All credits indeed goes to Rico, our teacher

[KakkiLakki]

Awesome job guys! Well done Rico!

Guro Harold

FCS-Kali Southeastern US Rep

[scotch21]

cge go hubaran mo sya!

[KhanomRay]

Lookin' good guys!

[yosiw1]

Thanks Lakan Ray, your videos are inspiring!

Yosi

[arnisadorgreece]

Hello guys!!Great work!!Hope to see you again and looking forward to work with you again next time you visit greece for a seminar!Dimitris from greece.

[Elhananm]

Hi Dimitris,

Thank you very much, hope every thing is good with you guys. keep in touch, please check your pm.

Hanan Israel

[gearzone2611]

Hi

Is this a type of Tersia Kali but using knife?

[Elhananm]

Not exactly.

This is FCS Kali, as created by Ray Dionaldo, Ray incurporated to his system (FCS Kali) 15 Fillipino sub systems, tersia is one of them.

[benzvio]

great moves, where can i meet you to see it ?

[Elhananm]

We train and teach in Tel-Aviv, Israel.

For details you can send pm us.