I love your videos, very informative! I have often used these videos as helping strategies for my own online matches :) so thank you for posting these videos! and im jus curious...what is your rating NOW?
At 9:39 after Kf1 you have a strong tactical move. 1.Rxf3+ if Gxf3, then, 2.Qh3+ Ke1 3.Rg1+ Ke2 4.Rg2+ if he then plays Kd3? 5.Qf5+ e4? 6.Dxe4+ Fxe4? 7.Qd7+ wins out right (6. Dxe4+ ke3) (7.Rxd2, Kxd2) (8. Qd5+ Kc2) (9. Exf3 looks good for the win. If he moves Kc3 after Qf5+ there's another nice combo, if he trys to protect the Queen it's forced mate. Qc8+,Kd3, Qa6+ Kc2 Qc4+ Rc4 QA2+ and mate next move. Basically it's best if he doesn't take the rook from the start. Good game.
No Qa4 is not really a good move, because of Nc6 blocks the check and protects the bishop and white accomplishes nothing. That move would hurt white more than helps. Black would get a free developing move and white would lose a little bit of time.
The problem in the opening is that cxd5 instead of exd5 is the wrong recapture in this type of position. The bad Bishop is a direct consequence of that. And if one is already left with a bad Bishop, one shouldn't concede the Bishop pair on the next move (Bxc3+), because the dark squared Bishop could've at least protected the black squares. After all, the problem with a bad light-squared Bishop is not only the immobility of that piece, but also the weakness of the black color complex.
@13mewtwo Yeah he could but then black blocks with Nc6 protecting the bishop. If white tries Ne5 then black plays Bd7 and after Nxc6 black goes Bxc3+ making white recapture with the pawn and then Bxc6 attacking the queen. It's a pretty equal position from here.
actually it would not have been that bad if you had captured that pawn (5:45). that would have liberated your bishop on the long diagonal, which you happened to trade later,leaving that horrible isolated d pawn (on a light square, remember that it is going to be weaker now that you traded your light squared bishop!), nice open and semi open c and b files, a potential for a minority attack on your queen side pawn structure, as well as your isolated d pawn exposed (after 7:55)
Jrobi - Don't you believe that your move: 12. ... Qc8 should have been 12. ... Ba6. With this if he were to play 13. cxd5; you can respond 13. ... Bxd3 and go on as 14. Qxd3 Nxd5. With this one move you pin that c pawn and allows you to gain leverage instead of wasting a tempo.
Do you reply to comments? If so please tell me if I'm wrong here, I am watching to learn. I think the big positional mistake you cite here (pawn E6; 2:45) would not have been that bad if at 5:50, you capture his pawn D5 with your knight, rather than your pawn. Capturing with your knight gives you a potential fork on his queen and rook that he must defend. You are then free to trade bishops and your pawns are better lined up. Thoughts?
1 how much are your rating now? is not nice to speak 5 fold of rating and not specify, especially as ratings are so relative one to each other. 1400 to what?
2. 2:50 nimzo indian basic development is b6 and fianchetto the sec bishop. c6 close that bishop.. eventually you reached the fianchetto but that pose another problem, what about wasting time in the opening? relating to this aspect i reccoment nimzowitch - my system . i love nimzo as a teacher
There is a general rule about open games for bishops and closed games for knights, but you can also have good and bad bishops, a knight is better than a bad bishop but worse than a good bishop, perhaps Petrosian had a bad bishop on the board?
u recapture with ur e pawn, not ur c pawn lol...the main base of this openning is basically hold ur self u can open the diagonal for ur light squares bishop...which was this case, but when u had the opportunity u just didnt? major mistake
d5 was not the positional mistake BxN was. Just because a computer says it's the best doesn't mean it is. BxN put his pawn where it want to be. Be7 or Bd6 are acceptable because it is better to have a good position even if you have to give up tempo.
1400s is a decent rating. Everyone starts off as unrated. ( you can get 1 for a rating)
JROBI got very lucky. Although his opponent was a high rated player, there were a few blunders. Definitely h7 jagg was the turning point of the game.
I'd think that if White did not mess with his castle pawns and kept pushing Black for sure would've lost. White had terrific position over black. However, JROBI won, and it was very clever. Good game!
@TheQwertyzone I completely agree with you because jtrain especially when he develops his light squared bishop he was clearly better and all jrobi could do is try to defend against whites threats. but when jtrain played e5 I thought that was his blunder because with every move from then on jtrain was weakening his advantage trying to play it too safe but what I really liked jrobi's counter play in the end, very good. jtrain's materialism backfired on him. Congrats on a huge upset win jrobi.
wow that really was an amazing match. I mean so much analysis and stuff. I never care abt central pawns or side pawns. But isnt 1474 a bad rating? I mean you start with 1500 right?
Ah jrobi just one more thing: one of the purposes of the nimzo is to damage the pawn structure of white in the queen side, creating double pawns by capturing the knight with your bishop. That was one of the points of Nimzovitch. If you like to play this oppening you should check out the videos of Kingscrusher "My system example matches" or something like that. They are very instructive, especially with this oppening.
just check this out JROBI 19th move was f6, going for a different move order 20.-Bb4, Rc8 21.-f3 Ng5 22.-exf6 gxf6 and the game is totally lost for black, due to bishop dominating square, which can be kicked out but that move turned the table to 1 side, its a matter of position indeed, but more importantly, how do you approach the position.
Having said that, a quote from Mikail tal, not the fork, but "The pin is mightier than the sword" XD, cheers.
But even the general idea that bishops are better than knights in open games isnt always true. There was one game of fischer, I think agaisnt petrosian but I am not sure, where he had a chance of trading his knight for a bishop and he didnt because he wanted that knight outpost and it was more than an oppened game. Again the situation: the power of a piece always depends in the situation. But mind that I am not trying to argue your preference for bishops.
Not sure who you are responding to, the comment isn't a reply to anyone. I personally don't have a big preference either way, but I do tend to get out of sticky situations in the endgame a bit more often with my knights as opposed to the bishops. That being said, having the bishops in an open endgame is very useful as well. I like them both, to be honest and approach it more on a situational basis depending on the layout of the board.
That last comment was not a response to anyone in particular, just a contribution to the discussion in general. Yes, I agree with you jrobi. Sometimes my bishops are more usefull than the knights, and sometimes its the other way around. It varies a lot. In endgames, which are usually open, I also prefer having the bishops.
@Henrique676 a knight that cannot be easily removed and is above the fourth line of the board, on the opponents side is usually much better than a bishop.
I think your plan to trade the bishops wasnt very good in that position, because you need too many moves to do that and that ends up in you losing time. About the pawn on d5, you could have developed your knight to c7 and then if cxd5, you could take the pawn with that knight getting a nice central knight supported by the pawn and the other knight, instead of an isolated pawn. Also if you developed the knight to c7, you could develop your bishop to d7 and then...
..., if you had time, you could move your pawn to b5 taking care of the threat of pawn to c4. Also a faster way of doing that is to move you pawn do a6, and then the other pawn to d5. These are just ideas, they dont look bad, but I am not sure that they arent flawed.
i think that you made a positional mistake by playing 19.- f6, i think its better to take the bishop first because after 19- f6 i think that the best possible response for that is 20.-Bb4, forced to move the rook, probably to 20.-Rf7 21.-exf 21.- either capturing with rook or knight. lets say rook, after 22.- f3 the best square for knight is Ng5 because Nd6 or Nc5 losses a pawn in 1 or 2 moves then
h4 is a problem, you will be forced to move the knight again. White will have an easy time targeting that isolated central pawn, and with the open dark diagnal, which you cannot constest because you dont have dark square bishop, your position may be destroyed without too much effort.
IMO bishops > knights, so i tend to capture a bishop with my knight as soon as i have the option.
Bishops = Knights. It all depends on the situation, sometime the knight is more powerfull than a bishop, for example with a strong central knight outpost.
Statistically they are the same, 3 points each, but if you talk about centralized pieces, the bishop controls more squares than the bishop, plus has longer range, but knights work better with the queen.
I said, In my opinion, i consider bishops stronger than knights, even bobby fischer rated them better giving the bishops 3.25 to 3 for the knight, and not only him, check grandmaster games and you will see that they will trade a knight over a bishop without hesitation, or will try to save them
at any cost for trading them for a knight. in amateur games, the knight has an important role, but in GM games, the best use they have most likely is to trade them from the opponent bishops.
but hey, ask jrobi if you want, he may give you a more accurate response for that.
Again, I think its a matter of situation. I have seen knights, in GM matches, in controling outposts that changed the course of the game. The bishops can be very controling also, but they can be stopped by pawn chains of even if the opponent avoids, sometimes easily, playing in the squares controlled by the bishops. Knights and Bishops have their advantages and disadvantages and I think it all depends in the situation.
Knights do better in closed positions due to their ability to jump pieces. Bishops shine when they have an open board to work with. Totally depends on the game at hand. Interesting conversation.
Exactly, that is general idea: Knights do better in closed positions and bishops do better in open positions. But there are other ideas. I once saw a game between very high rated players and black used the slav defense (actually this is the defense I usually play when white does the queen´s pawn oppening). At a certain point black at exchange one bishop and had both knigths in central outposts (and the position had been oppened with some pawn exchanges). Those knights and the central control...
try benko gambit, if accepted you will see that bishops on a6 and g7 are way more dominating than knights, specially the g7 bishop which i think its even more powerful than the rook, its a matter of playstyle and taste. and my taste is over bishops
I wasnt discussing your taste in bishops, i was discussing that fact that you said bishops are better than knights. You play open games? Then it is a situation that favors bishops. The benko gambit? Another open situation that favors bishops. You prefer bishops? Fine, I have no right or argument to say that is wrong. But if you say bishops are always better than knights, I will have do disagree
You did, thats why you started the discussion, if you check the original post that you replied first, i said IMO = in my oppinnion, get this straight, i never said that bishops are better that 'x' piece, i said i prefer bishops, and that fischer prefered them as well, im aware of the power of the pieces, and i dont like it, but some times i have to trade bishops for knights, just check for GM games and you will see that for them is a big deal to lose or remove the opponents bishop pair.
i used to prefer knights before, when i was in the 1400 barrier, but after i avoided to trade my bishops , my game improved and my raiting went up, im aware of the power of the pieces depending the situation, but if you say that, even pawns are stronger than rooks in certain positions as well, just check this game, most of the effort of JROBI was to remove an opponent bishop off the game, (after he messed it up tho XD), i just gave my personal preference after certain position after the analisys
Exactly, you said your opinion, and then said that GM would trade knights for bishops. Opinions are always discussed, thats why I started this discussion. But if you say your taste, your preference, then I have no business in arguing with that. Opinions are different from tastes.
i said that after you told me that they were equal, which i disagre, but still, i think that some oppenigs are underused due to the exchange of bishops for knighs early in game, like trompowsky or even the slav defence, where you can find sicilian dragon type players on each corner, according to very good GM's and IM's like Roman Dzinzinhasvilly, nigel davies, andrew martin , and some others which have DVD's, they do not state nothing, but i can see that they try to avoid losing bishops.
Henri, im stating that i prefer the bishops over knights, i dont care what do you think (no offence),i know that statistically the pieces have the same value, i know that, but im an open game type player, so bishops tend to be more dominating in those games, thats why, im not a begginer, im around 1700 in standard games on fics.
check my original post, i just said that was my oppinion, some players prefer knights no matter the situation, matter of taste.
hmm, i don't know, i feel that perhaps the c4 pawn threat to your center pawn structure could be alleviated if u play Ne7 after c4, then if he plays c x d5, Queen takes would be strong. Can you give your comments?
That's my handle on FICS - my blitz is much lower than my standard rating. I like to try new stuff on the blitz rating before I play it in standard. Thanks for checking out the vid!
right, but shouldn't you try new things in standard game where you have time to ponder and analyze where as in blitz it's usually spontaneous response, if you get grip on a certain line you could use in blitz... any way thanks for the response...
when he went c4, qd7 cxd5... u should have taken with knight, it lets you avoid getting that iso, and lets you have a little bit of a wedge. thanks!=)
taking on c4 would have been better . This allows the bishop on b7 to become active on the long diagonal. allowing him to take is a blunder. this hems in your bishop and makes his bishop better than yours.
Instead of Qc8 you could've played BA6, pinning his pawn to his bischop. If he captures your D pawn take his bischop, it'll form an immediate threat to his rook and he'll be forced to retake it with his queen, then take his d pawn with either your queen or your knight. Knight would probably be your best move because it prevents the attack by his bischop on your F8 rook.
tave2344: Higher is better, and the more you play the more realistic your rating is.
Example: if you lose to a higher-rated player you'll lose less rating compared to if you lose to a player around your rating or even to a lower-rated one.
One thing about the nimzo-indian is that you need to know some of the theory behind opening (controlling e4 and d5) and the goals concerning white's pawn structure (doubled c-pawns usually); otherwise, you're giving up your dark-square bishop for nothing.
at 3:42, 7... Bxc3 is definitely NOT the best move for black in that position, regardless of what the computer thinks. The resulting pawn structure favours white.
7... Be7 is much better, although the position is dead drawn due to the symmetrical pawn structure.
on 9:40 instead of moving your queen to d6 you should have taken the f3 pawn with your rook check and then he'll take with pawn and you'll check with Qh3 and 0-1 white would be lost.
you know i been asking alot of people this and nobody seems to listen to me... i ask alexander for some help but she never reasoned ... so am asking you can you teach me these position names and all these tragedy... and how to read and understand the chess moves number and what its means
I default to my last match vid for rating, so the short answer is yes. That being said, I plan on playing in OTB tournaments this summer for an official rating. My online rating (standard time) is a bit higher but I haven't been playing standard much for the past little while. Mostly blitz trying things out as I learn them. Thanks for checking out the vid!
instead of playing rb3 at 9:30. I like the move rc7 attacking the queen. If 1.- qxc7 2. qxd5+ anything 3. qxa8+ followed by white winning. If the black does not take the rook on c7 then white can just double up on the c file.
At 5:52 when he was threating you with his C pawn, you should have moved your white bishop to A3 pinning that pawn. If he continues his attack you could take off that white bishop of his.
it would have been a bishop trade, so his opponent could still take the pawn then jrobi would have to deal with two threats at once. if he was to trade the bishops then the same situation results as it did with the move he made
this HAS been very instructive. OK, it seems off topic, but, the movie, Bagger Vance with Charlize Theron, Will Smith, and Matt Damon, the character Walter Hagen (Bruce McGill) has a saying...."three lousy shots followed by one brilliant shot can still make par"
(I think maybe Tal studied under him, eh?)
Using an isolated pawn to eat up your opponent's time and moves seems quite 'up to par' actually.
i saw something at 5:15 that im curious about. what if you move bishop to A6. then if PxD5 BxD3, QxD3 QxD5. if jtrain does not take D3 jrobi is up a piece and gains an advantage.
also if after BA6 jtrain leaves his pawn and puts extra defense on it with something like QC2 PxC4, BxC4 PB5.
just thought id throw it out there for anyone to comment on.
Man! I know exactly what you mean when you say you've reached a poin where you level out. Enjoyed the game and the annotation. Keep up w/ the videos!!
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Plus, I don't understand it because as you mentioned it in your video "Grandmaster Chess Tactics #5: Can you spot the line?", even at the highest level some errors, of course, are possible, so Chevez could have done a mistake, giving the victory to Fischer...
So I like very much your videos because (among other reasons) you underline, along the demonstration, different options - and often show what was the mate, or what it could have been.
When you put your rook on D6 and say "he's gonna lose his queen or he's gonna lose the game", you seem to be very sure. It means : if jtrain sacrifices his queen, he can still win the game, but if he decides to keep it, he can be sure to lose. So what would have you done if he had put his pawn on E4, or his queen on D3 for example ? sacrifice your rook for his queen ? and then ? or if he had put his rook on C8 ?
Thanks for the comment! Basically in that position I meant "trade the queen for a rook or lose right away" meaning he could still fight on for a bit if he didn't save the queen, but he would be down material of course.
A bit higher yes - working on things. I usually default to my last game video for my current rating. I don't like to claim a rating area until I can perform there with consistency. Thanks for checking out the vid!
I don't see a lot of positional analysis like this. Really good stuff. Please post more about "road-blocks".
I would love to see more mile-stones of chess players. I remember not knowing the true value of peices or doubled pawns, etc... things like that. That would be a beginners mile-stone.
I reached another mile stone when I realized the idea of simplification while ahead.
nice game!!!!
judoldaman 2 weeks ago
What is your rating now?
blakelandes 1 month ago
Where do these ratings come from? Where do you play? I've been playing for about a month now. I like it. I want to get good.
CoachFogg 2 months ago
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2012742 2 months ago
thanks for the video.... plezz make more i learned alot from these videos
GrandmasterJoel1273 3 months ago
Hey Jrobi you should play Kevin from TheChessWebsite and then both of you should analyse the game. Thumbs up so Jrobi can see
simon13579100 5 months ago 5
I love your videos, very informative! I have often used these videos as helping strategies for my own online matches :) so thank you for posting these videos! and im jus curious...what is your rating NOW?
danno915 7 months ago
wtf, so impressive.. Have you ever win agaisnt level 10 computer?
mukmin01 7 months ago
Wow, you did not play like a 1474 in this game. Very impressive.
michaelhays92 8 months ago
Very good game, and also very instructional with your narrations. Overall, great insight.
newportlt 9 months ago
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if u wanted to trade off the light bish why did u just move it to a6 at 556 into the vid? retake the pawn with you queen. thanks for posting
gqwild77 10 months ago
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gqwild77 10 months ago
hi,jrobi,what is strategically position?
thekobe157 10 months ago
AlltimeTrance 10 months ago
@AlltimeTrance
That's ment to be Rc3 second from last Not Rc4.
I don't mean to sound like a clever arse, it just helps with my chess to go through a few combos and write then out.
:-)
AlltimeTrance 10 months ago
jrobichess di you have a uscf rating
kakaman05 10 months ago
This is the best way to analyze your games.
roloninja1996 10 months ago
Can you please start doing these again? I find them very entertaining.
thisisgame 11 months ago
Why not the Four Knights Game?
KnightInFire 1 year ago
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oryxfreeride 1 year ago
Hum pawn to c6 was kind of weak if u want get attack play pawn to c5 much more agressive or yuo can playt eh calm d5 which transpose in a QGD
gtamateur 1 year ago
your videos are always great! thanks jrobi.
akira6666666 1 year ago
thanks jrobi
dhoulkarnain 1 year ago
At 3:20, can't he play queen to A4 and win your bishop?
r0bmackin 1 year ago
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@r0bmackin
No Qa4 is not really a good move, because of Nc6 blocks the check and protects the bishop and white accomplishes nothing. That move would hurt white more than helps. Black would get a free developing move and white would lose a little bit of time.
BOYWONDER20090 1 year ago
@r0bmackin
At 3:20 if white plays queen A4 black will simply play knight C6 blocking the check and defending the bishop
Wheeeeen 1 year ago
At 5:55, why didn't you just move your bishop to A5, pinning the pawn to his light square bishop, which you wanted to take anyway?
pinkfloydfan417 1 year ago
@pinkfloydfan417 Sorry, I meant A6.
pinkfloydfan417 1 year ago
at 8:19 i think Qf5 would have been good...threatening the pawn on e5 and the pawn on f2
cuber9 1 year ago
The problem in the opening is that cxd5 instead of exd5 is the wrong recapture in this type of position. The bad Bishop is a direct consequence of that. And if one is already left with a bad Bishop, one shouldn't concede the Bishop pair on the next move (Bxc3+), because the dark squared Bishop could've at least protected the black squares. After all, the problem with a bad light-squared Bishop is not only the immobility of that piece, but also the weakness of the black color complex.
langengro 1 year ago
jrobi why is it your rating is always lower than your opponents?
mielord21 1 year ago
hey at about 03:35 I think white could go Qa4 and check, threatening the black Bishop at b4, right?
13mewtwo 1 year ago
@13mewtwo Yeah he could but then black blocks with Nc6 protecting the bishop. If white tries Ne5 then black plays Bd7 and after Nxc6 black goes Bxc3+ making white recapture with the pawn and then Bxc6 attacking the queen. It's a pretty equal position from here.
Wuzzysbrand06 1 year ago
@13mewtwo Black would simply block with Nc6 - a developping move - and white's queen is on the a-file!
tehjoch 1 year ago
actually it would not have been that bad if you had captured that pawn (5:45). that would have liberated your bishop on the long diagonal, which you happened to trade later,leaving that horrible isolated d pawn (on a light square, remember that it is going to be weaker now that you traded your light squared bishop!), nice open and semi open c and b files, a potential for a minority attack on your queen side pawn structure, as well as your isolated d pawn exposed (after 7:55)
=S
chrism216 1 year ago
Jrobi - Don't you believe that your move: 12. ... Qc8 should have been 12. ... Ba6. With this if he were to play 13. cxd5; you can respond 13. ... Bxd3 and go on as 14. Qxd3 Nxd5. With this one move you pin that c pawn and allows you to gain leverage instead of wasting a tempo.
MrTrendmaker 1 year ago
how long is your typical game you play online jrobi?
JiuClaw22 1 year ago
Why not Nxd5 instead of exd5 at 6:00, because it avoids the isolated pawn.
Rapidfire220 1 year ago
Thank you for teaching us so much. you are the best and please continue teaching chess. God bless you and I wish you much success!!
Michael
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Do you reply to comments? If so please tell me if I'm wrong here, I am watching to learn. I think the big positional mistake you cite here (pawn E6; 2:45) would not have been that bad if at 5:50, you capture his pawn D5 with your knight, rather than your pawn. Capturing with your knight gives you a potential fork on his queen and rook that he must defend. You are then free to trade bishops and your pawns are better lined up. Thoughts?
spanielmander 1 year ago
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spanielmander 1 year ago
hey j robi
i have some comments on your game
1 how much are your rating now? is not nice to speak 5 fold of rating and not specify, especially as ratings are so relative one to each other. 1400 to what?
2. 2:50 nimzo indian basic development is b6 and fianchetto the sec bishop. c6 close that bishop.. eventually you reached the fianchetto but that pose another problem, what about wasting time in the opening? relating to this aspect i reccoment nimzowitch - my system . i love nimzo as a teacher
braileanul 1 year ago
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GLowMat 1 year ago
why not bishop to A3 at around 5:50. I'm horrible at chess so I might not be seeing something... but why not?
TheSnappleFacts 1 year ago
hey jrobi. what do you think about c4-c5 after d7-d5? it seems to lead to a closed game..
pfalcon7777 1 year ago
There is a general rule about open games for bishops and closed games for knights, but you can also have good and bad bishops, a knight is better than a bad bishop but worse than a good bishop, perhaps Petrosian had a bad bishop on the board?
Saqu0007 1 year ago
Were do you play online??
adhdboy699 1 year ago
u recapture with ur e pawn, not ur c pawn lol...the main base of this openning is basically hold ur self u can open the diagonal for ur light squares bishop...which was this case, but when u had the opportunity u just didnt? major mistake
tufosanta 1 year ago
trading away minor pieces : (
UberDTfreaK 1 year ago
Question why did you move your knight out of the way so that your bishop can support the D5 pawn?
Aleneden 2 years ago
d5 was not the positional mistake BxN was. Just because a computer says it's the best doesn't mean it is. BxN put his pawn where it want to be. Be7 or Bd6 are acceptable because it is better to have a good position even if you have to give up tempo.
kooler2004 2 years ago
wow.. such a big mistake at the end though... hmn..
jeenkyum 2 years ago
awesome game! you are very good at explaining your thought process. A+
smujohnson 2 years ago 9
Jrobi wasn't it better to take on c4, so that you have the a8-h1 diagonal opened. Then leave your first plan and try to get hold of the open c-file?
serrie85 2 years ago
Starting at 8:00 ... what's wrong with
... Qf5
White is forced to defend. Possible cases:
f3 Nxd2
Qxd2 Qxe5 (winning the pawn)
or
Qe2 Qxe5 (again wins the pawn)
or
Rf1 Qe5 (yet again wins the pawn)
XaviarC 2 years ago
@XaviarC
f3 is annoying, only moves for black are then Nd6 or Ng3.
Your idea of Nxd2 doesn't work. You lose your queen (Qxf5)
serrie85 2 years ago
@XaviarC and you sad you are an IM lol :) who are you kidding
vrabac93master 1 year ago
Hey Jrobi Id like to see a vid of you playing the Dutch stonewall defense!
ChillfcknWill 2 years ago
1400s is a decent rating. Everyone starts off as unrated. ( you can get 1 for a rating)
JROBI got very lucky. Although his opponent was a high rated player, there were a few blunders. Definitely h7 jagg was the turning point of the game.
I'd think that if White did not mess with his castle pawns and kept pushing Black for sure would've lost. White had terrific position over black. However, JROBI won, and it was very clever. Good game!
TheQwertyzone 2 years ago
@TheQwertyzone I completely agree with you because jtrain especially when he develops his light squared bishop he was clearly better and all jrobi could do is try to defend against whites threats. but when jtrain played e5 I thought that was his blunder because with every move from then on jtrain was weakening his advantage trying to play it too safe but what I really liked jrobi's counter play in the end, very good. jtrain's materialism backfired on him. Congrats on a huge upset win jrobi.
BOYWONDER20090 2 years ago
wow that really was an amazing match. I mean so much analysis and stuff. I never care abt central pawns or side pawns. But isnt 1474 a bad rating? I mean you start with 1500 right?
xenekaro 2 years ago
That was a brilliant ending, I probably would have taken that queen bait at the end and been checkmated haha.
HaloChaos 2 years ago 23
nice game!
TheMichael88lay 2 years ago 2
at 2:48 isn't the line to play c5?
Mtallica101 2 years ago
no, it is c6
sourdiezel0916 2 years ago
"Nimzovitch "My System" example games", thats it :P. Cheers
Henrique676 2 years ago
Ah jrobi just one more thing: one of the purposes of the nimzo is to damage the pawn structure of white in the queen side, creating double pawns by capturing the knight with your bishop. That was one of the points of Nimzovitch. If you like to play this oppening you should check out the videos of Kingscrusher "My system example matches" or something like that. They are very instructive, especially with this oppening.
Henrique676 2 years ago
just check this out JROBI 19th move was f6, going for a different move order 20.-Bb4, Rc8 21.-f3 Ng5 22.-exf6 gxf6 and the game is totally lost for black, due to bishop dominating square, which can be kicked out but that move turned the table to 1 side, its a matter of position indeed, but more importantly, how do you approach the position.
Having said that, a quote from Mikail tal, not the fork, but "The pin is mightier than the sword" XD, cheers.
Alientcp 2 years ago
But even the general idea that bishops are better than knights in open games isnt always true. There was one game of fischer, I think agaisnt petrosian but I am not sure, where he had a chance of trading his knight for a bishop and he didnt because he wanted that knight outpost and it was more than an oppened game. Again the situation: the power of a piece always depends in the situation. But mind that I am not trying to argue your preference for bishops.
Henrique676 2 years ago
Not sure who you are responding to, the comment isn't a reply to anyone. I personally don't have a big preference either way, but I do tend to get out of sticky situations in the endgame a bit more often with my knights as opposed to the bishops. That being said, having the bishops in an open endgame is very useful as well. I like them both, to be honest and approach it more on a situational basis depending on the layout of the board.
jrobichess 2 years ago
That last comment was not a response to anyone in particular, just a contribution to the discussion in general. Yes, I agree with you jrobi. Sometimes my bishops are more usefull than the knights, and sometimes its the other way around. It varies a lot. In endgames, which are usually open, I also prefer having the bishops.
Henrique676 2 years ago
@jrobichess
You always say your ratings in past tense, as if your not that rating anymore.
If your not, what is your current rating?
Darkblaze10k 1 year ago
@Henrique676 a knight that cannot be easily removed and is above the fourth line of the board, on the opponents side is usually much better than a bishop.
hthought 4 months ago
what were u thinking with the pawn to c6
sappynirvana30 2 years ago
jrobi, by the way, I sent you a message about a book called My System. Cheers
Henrique676 2 years ago
I think your plan to trade the bishops wasnt very good in that position, because you need too many moves to do that and that ends up in you losing time. About the pawn on d5, you could have developed your knight to c7 and then if cxd5, you could take the pawn with that knight getting a nice central knight supported by the pawn and the other knight, instead of an isolated pawn. Also if you developed the knight to c7, you could develop your bishop to d7 and then...
Henrique676 2 years ago
..., if you had time, you could move your pawn to b5 taking care of the threat of pawn to c4. Also a faster way of doing that is to move you pawn do a6, and then the other pawn to d5. These are just ideas, they dont look bad, but I am not sure that they arent flawed.
Henrique676 2 years ago
i think that you made a positional mistake by playing 19.- f6, i think its better to take the bishop first because after 19- f6 i think that the best possible response for that is 20.-Bb4, forced to move the rook, probably to 20.-Rf7 21.-exf 21.- either capturing with rook or knight. lets say rook, after 22.- f3 the best square for knight is Ng5 because Nd6 or Nc5 losses a pawn in 1 or 2 moves then
Alientcp 2 years ago
h4 is a problem, you will be forced to move the knight again. White will have an easy time targeting that isolated central pawn, and with the open dark diagnal, which you cannot constest because you dont have dark square bishop, your position may be destroyed without too much effort.
IMO bishops > knights, so i tend to capture a bishop with my knight as soon as i have the option.
Alientcp 2 years ago
Bishops = Knights. It all depends on the situation, sometime the knight is more powerfull than a bishop, for example with a strong central knight outpost.
Henrique676 2 years ago
Statistically they are the same, 3 points each, but if you talk about centralized pieces, the bishop controls more squares than the bishop, plus has longer range, but knights work better with the queen.
I said, In my opinion, i consider bishops stronger than knights, even bobby fischer rated them better giving the bishops 3.25 to 3 for the knight, and not only him, check grandmaster games and you will see that they will trade a knight over a bishop without hesitation, or will try to save them
Alientcp 2 years ago
at any cost for trading them for a knight. in amateur games, the knight has an important role, but in GM games, the best use they have most likely is to trade them from the opponent bishops.
but hey, ask jrobi if you want, he may give you a more accurate response for that.
Alientcp 2 years ago
Again, I think its a matter of situation. I have seen knights, in GM matches, in controling outposts that changed the course of the game. The bishops can be very controling also, but they can be stopped by pawn chains of even if the opponent avoids, sometimes easily, playing in the squares controlled by the bishops. Knights and Bishops have their advantages and disadvantages and I think it all depends in the situation.
Henrique676 2 years ago
Not to mention the several games where grandmasters gave away both bishops for the knights. Its all about the position!
Henrique676 2 years ago
Knights do better in closed positions due to their ability to jump pieces. Bishops shine when they have an open board to work with. Totally depends on the game at hand. Interesting conversation.
jrobichess 2 years ago
Exactly, that is general idea: Knights do better in closed positions and bishops do better in open positions. But there are other ideas. I once saw a game between very high rated players and black used the slav defense (actually this is the defense I usually play when white does the queen´s pawn oppening). At a certain point black at exchange one bishop and had both knigths in central outposts (and the position had been oppened with some pawn exchanges). Those knights and the central control...
Henrique676 2 years ago
... they had gave black a great position. Sometimes bishops are better, sometimes knights are better.
Henrique676 2 years ago
try benko gambit, if accepted you will see that bishops on a6 and g7 are way more dominating than knights, specially the g7 bishop which i think its even more powerful than the rook, its a matter of playstyle and taste. and my taste is over bishops
Alientcp 2 years ago
I wasnt discussing your taste in bishops, i was discussing that fact that you said bishops are better than knights. You play open games? Then it is a situation that favors bishops. The benko gambit? Another open situation that favors bishops. You prefer bishops? Fine, I have no right or argument to say that is wrong. But if you say bishops are always better than knights, I will have do disagree
Henrique676 2 years ago
You did, thats why you started the discussion, if you check the original post that you replied first, i said IMO = in my oppinnion, get this straight, i never said that bishops are better that 'x' piece, i said i prefer bishops, and that fischer prefered them as well, im aware of the power of the pieces, and i dont like it, but some times i have to trade bishops for knights, just check for GM games and you will see that for them is a big deal to lose or remove the opponents bishop pair.
Alientcp 2 years ago
i used to prefer knights before, when i was in the 1400 barrier, but after i avoided to trade my bishops , my game improved and my raiting went up, im aware of the power of the pieces depending the situation, but if you say that, even pawns are stronger than rooks in certain positions as well, just check this game, most of the effort of JROBI was to remove an opponent bishop off the game, (after he messed it up tho XD), i just gave my personal preference after certain position after the analisys
Alientcp 2 years ago
Exactly, you said your opinion, and then said that GM would trade knights for bishops. Opinions are always discussed, thats why I started this discussion. But if you say your taste, your preference, then I have no business in arguing with that. Opinions are different from tastes.
Henrique676 2 years ago
i said that after you told me that they were equal, which i disagre, but still, i think that some oppenigs are underused due to the exchange of bishops for knighs early in game, like trompowsky or even the slav defence, where you can find sicilian dragon type players on each corner, according to very good GM's and IM's like Roman Dzinzinhasvilly, nigel davies, andrew martin , and some others which have DVD's, they do not state nothing, but i can see that they try to avoid losing bishops.
Alientcp 2 years ago
How does the early exchange of bishops for knights occur in the slav defence?
Henrique676 2 years ago
Henri, im stating that i prefer the bishops over knights, i dont care what do you think (no offence),i know that statistically the pieces have the same value, i know that, but im an open game type player, so bishops tend to be more dominating in those games, thats why, im not a begginer, im around 1700 in standard games on fics.
check my original post, i just said that was my oppinion, some players prefer knights no matter the situation, matter of taste.
playstyles vary from player to player.
Alientcp 2 years ago
nice win!
rolfch1p 2 years ago
hmm, i don't know, i feel that perhaps the c4 pawn threat to your center pawn structure could be alleviated if u play Ne7 after c4, then if he plays c x d5, Queen takes would be strong. Can you give your comments?
Kane9530 2 years ago
what website do you play these awesome games on???
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why didn't you do bishop A3 in 5:55?
shirshakbt 2 years ago
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shirshakbt 2 years ago
Awesome Nice game!!
Armagedragon 2 years ago
but sweet win
RusselBertrand 2 years ago
I agree the immediate d5 was a much better move
RusselBertrand 2 years ago
i played a blitz game with jrobi on FICS, i believe that was you
but the rating of jrobi was around 1200
alphalafa 2 years ago
That's my handle on FICS - my blitz is much lower than my standard rating. I like to try new stuff on the blitz rating before I play it in standard. Thanks for checking out the vid!
jrobichess 2 years ago
right, but shouldn't you try new things in standard game where you have time to ponder and analyze where as in blitz it's usually spontaneous response, if you get grip on a certain line you could use in blitz... any way thanks for the response...
alphalafa 2 years ago
I prefer trying new things out in blitz because I don't care about blitz rating. With standard I try to put my best foot forward, so to speak.
jrobichess 2 years ago
when he went c4, qd7 cxd5... u should have taken with knight, it lets you avoid getting that iso, and lets you have a little bit of a wedge. thanks!=)
cardeater473 2 years ago
and, youre threatening nc3!! forking queen and rook!
cardeater473 2 years ago
taking on c4 would have been better . This allows the bishop on b7 to become active on the long diagonal. allowing him to take is a blunder. this hems in your bishop and makes his bishop better than yours.
gmwillis07 2 years ago
At 5:40 i would have played kF6 to E4 to let him just take the knight and lose his strong bishop there
pejoni26 2 years ago
should have moved pawn to c5 instead of c6
Mtallica101 2 years ago
very nice
numbcore 2 years ago
You should probably take the pawn on c4 rather than playing Qc8 as at least it activates your bishop and does not ruin your pawn structure
richisc00l 2 years ago
Instead of Qc8 you could've played BA6, pinning his pawn to his bischop. If he captures your D pawn take his bischop, it'll form an immediate threat to his rook and he'll be forced to retake it with his queen, then take his d pawn with either your queen or your knight. Knight would probably be your best move because it prevents the attack by his bischop on your F8 rook.
Pellucidity 3 years ago
It is not normal to take back with the c pawn, but with the e pawn, and you could have the E file to work with..
chessiver 3 years ago
how does the ratings work? is higher the better? how high do you have to be to become a master? then does it start over or somthing?
tave2344 3 years ago
tave2344: Higher is better, and the more you play the more realistic your rating is.
Example: if you lose to a higher-rated player you'll lose less rating compared to if you lose to a player around your rating or even to a lower-rated one.
whatbefalls13 2 years ago
One thing about the nimzo-indian is that you need to know some of the theory behind opening (controlling e4 and d5) and the goals concerning white's pawn structure (doubled c-pawns usually); otherwise, you're giving up your dark-square bishop for nothing.
poprockssuck87 3 years ago
after c4 play Ba6! you achieve your goal one move faster!
lordofllamas42 3 years ago
at 3:42, 7... Bxc3 is definitely NOT the best move for black in that position, regardless of what the computer thinks. The resulting pawn structure favours white.
7... Be7 is much better, although the position is dead drawn due to the symmetrical pawn structure.
Fricasso79 3 years ago
at :53 why not move the bishop to h7?
casanova0102 3 years ago
i meant at 5:53...
casanova0102 3 years ago
omg this thing good
7783383148 3 years ago
dude at 8:11 you are just better than him just exchange knight for bishop and you both are the same but he has double pawns
gpto17 3 years ago
on 9:40 instead of moving your queen to d6 you should have taken the f3 pawn with your rook check and then he'll take with pawn and you'll check with Qh3 and 0-1 white would be lost.
jendeh32 3 years ago
agree
gpto17 3 years ago
you know i been asking alot of people this and nobody seems to listen to me... i ask alexander for some help but she never reasoned ... so am asking you can you teach me these position names and all these tragedy... and how to read and understand the chess moves number and what its means
vagnagunx99 3 years ago
love the commentary, and great vid!
SeekHeart 3 years ago
Sure - I roam around on FICS - send me a message sometime. Thanks for checking out the vid!
jrobichess 3 years ago
Are you seriously only rated at 1474? That is lower than me, and you are much better than I am...
gooner13for4 3 years ago
I default to my last match vid for rating, so the short answer is yes. That being said, I plan on playing in OTB tournaments this summer for an official rating. My online rating (standard time) is a bit higher but I haven't been playing standard much for the past little while. Mostly blitz trying things out as I learn them. Thanks for checking out the vid!
jrobichess 3 years ago
Oh. Well keep posting them, I learn a lot.
gooner13for4 3 years ago
@ 5:58 Nxd5 keeps pawns connected, gives a better position for your knight and threatens a queen rook fork on c3. right?
hayeder 3 years ago
jrobi, are you on FICS? what is your rating blitz/standard and what number? and do you play over the board at all?
just general interest really, thanks.
hayeder 3 years ago
instead of playing rb3 at 9:30. I like the move rc7 attacking the queen. If 1.- qxc7 2. qxd5+ anything 3. qxa8+ followed by white winning. If the black does not take the rook on c7 then white can just double up on the c file.
bloughmyhawk 3 years ago
I really enjoyed this video
greatsauces 3 years ago
as I improve at chess I am getting more out of these videos
waparker4 3 years ago
nice game!
abe0023 3 years ago
i think at 8:43 a better move may have been to attack the queen and block the open file with your knight by moving it to c5.
abe0023 3 years ago
Very nice work here!
LLAMALOVER657657657 3 years ago
At 5:52 when he was threating you with his C pawn, you should have moved your white bishop to A3 pinning that pawn. If he continues his attack you could take off that white bishop of his.
Lpietr0 3 years ago
it would have been a bishop trade, so his opponent could still take the pawn then jrobi would have to deal with two threats at once. if he was to trade the bishops then the same situation results as it did with the move he made
hayeder 3 years ago
good videos
Predator887 3 years ago
this HAS been very instructive. OK, it seems off topic, but, the movie, Bagger Vance with Charlize Theron, Will Smith, and Matt Damon, the character Walter Hagen (Bruce McGill) has a saying...."three lousy shots followed by one brilliant shot can still make par"
(I think maybe Tal studied under him, eh?)
Using an isolated pawn to eat up your opponent's time and moves seems quite 'up to par' actually.
Good game, mistakes or no.
ArtThroughtheAges 3 years ago
How do you calculate your rating range????????
CodeNameT3rror 3 years ago
i saw something at 5:15 that im curious about. what if you move bishop to A6. then if PxD5 BxD3, QxD3 QxD5. if jtrain does not take D3 jrobi is up a piece and gains an advantage.
also if after BA6 jtrain leaves his pawn and puts extra defense on it with something like QC2 PxC4, BxC4 PB5.
just thought id throw it out there for anyone to comment on.
infinitusfron 3 years ago
That is impossible, you mean QxD3, but well thought!!!!!
CodeNameT3rror 3 years ago
impossible? how so? and where did i mean QxD3?
the first line is BA6; PxD5 BxD3; QxD3 QxD5. now both queens demand the center. if thats the QxD3 your talking about i didn't forget.
infinitusfron 3 years ago
Ohhhh sorry my fault: I understood some thing else.
CodeNameT3rror 3 years ago
Man! I know exactly what you mean when you say you've reached a poin where you level out. Enjoyed the game and the annotation. Keep up w/ the videos!!
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1Sacho1 3 years ago
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sch0koteufel 3 years ago 2
instead of capturing with the pawn... what if you used the queen to maintain your pawn island?
JUDALATION 3 years ago
PART 3
Plus, I don't understand it because as you mentioned it in your video "Grandmaster Chess Tactics #5: Can you spot the line?", even at the highest level some errors, of course, are possible, so Chevez could have done a mistake, giving the victory to Fischer...
So I like very much your videos because (among other reasons) you underline, along the demonstration, different options - and often show what was the mate, or what it could have been.
guacamolage 3 years ago
Thanks guacamolage!
jrobichess 3 years ago
PART 1
Hi Robi,
And first congratulations for your great videos.
When you put your rook on D6 and say "he's gonna lose his queen or he's gonna lose the game", you seem to be very sure. It means : if jtrain sacrifices his queen, he can still win the game, but if he decides to keep it, he can be sure to lose. So what would have you done if he had put his pawn on E4, or his queen on D3 for example ? sacrifice your rook for his queen ? and then ? or if he had put his rook on C8 ?
guacamolage 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment! Basically in that position I meant "trade the queen for a rook or lose right away" meaning he could still fight on for a bit if he didn't save the queen, but he would be down material of course.
jrobichess 3 years ago
You are a brilliant presenter. Love watching your sessions. Thanks for your generosity.
dubaipete 3 years ago
Thanks dubaipete - I appreciate the comment!
jrobichess 3 years ago
At 6:00,I think it would have been better if you captured with your F knight.
StrokaviMozak 3 years ago
It's tough to say. I checked it out in the engines and both positions are very equal in strength.
jrobichess 3 years ago
nice video, wish i could think and play like that!
Userz4fun 3 years ago
Thanks for checking it out!
jrobichess 3 years ago
nice video. so you're at a higher rating now?
catchonthicha 3 years ago
A bit higher yes - working on things. I usually default to my last game video for my current rating. I don't like to claim a rating area until I can perform there with consistency. Thanks for checking out the vid!
jrobichess 3 years ago
I don't see a lot of positional analysis like this. Really good stuff. Please post more about "road-blocks".
I would love to see more mile-stones of chess players. I remember not knowing the true value of peices or doubled pawns, etc... things like that. That would be a beginners mile-stone.
I reached another mile stone when I realized the idea of simplification while ahead.
More mile-stones if you can think of any.
Thanks a lot!
weakperception 3 years ago