Jesus people it isn't that horrible. Just don't care what they think. You don't know them, you don't like them, and nothing they say has an affect on you. Furries, ignore the haters, and lets all get back to good ol' fashion fursuiting.
@deeerp1 1. Well since you went through all the trouble i suppose i'll humor you
2. Furries aren't a race, we're a lifestyle, who said we were?
3. I know it the internet, i don't take it seriously
4. We don't think we are human-animal hybrids, we just think walking talking animals are cool.
5. If you mean beastiality no we don't do that, Why would i hurt an innocent animal? And if you mean fursuit sex we don't do that either, that's just hugging, which somehow you idiots mistook for humping
@deeerp1 WE don't do it to solve our problems, we do it because its fun and we enjoy doing it, just like how people at Anime Cons ENJOY cosplay, and how gamers ENJOY gaming. And its true, not all of us do fursuit sex, barely any of us do.....look its not a fetish, its not a cult, its a lifestyle, like being a crossdresser or a Buddhist, if you don't like it you don't thats fine, its none of your business anyway, so jsut ignore us and we'll ignore you......bitch.
@Inkrunner12 • a course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment : he had a fetish for writing more opinions each year than any other justice.
@Inkrunner12 5. If you mean beastiality no we don't do that, Why would i hurt an innocent animal? And if you mean fursuit sex we don't do that either, that's just hugging, which
6. Oh no an insult to my appearance! I'm so emotionally traumatized!! Here you are assuming all furries are ugly, which is untrue. Fursuits are just a way of us living out our characters in real life, kind of like cosplay at Anime cons.
The Internet: A place where people unleash there drama, sadly there are a lot of overly dramatic people, whether they are gay, furry, racists, trolls, etc.
people just need to get laid, and calm down,
I mean if you want drama, porn, and violence, go to the internet
but if you want to gain self-esteem, or have issues, get off the internet, and go talk about it to you family or friends, before you start comparing furries to the holocaust, and wanting to kill yourself. (damn internet emos)
ok hating furries is nowhere near as bad as the holocost because we are not being killed for being furries and where not being crouded into camps and killed
lol when i fight trolls i when ^_^ hackers when over trolls. When you tell a troll you know what place he is in he or she laughs tell them where they are and they run.
It's so dumb that even ultraforge can't think of a creative thing to say.
"Furry is not a religion"
If Scientology is considered a religion, most of the fandom isn't far behind. Let's face it, the people fighting this Great Furry War could be diagnosed with a mental disorder by TOM CRUISE of all people. This goes especially for the furries who demand a good reputation when all they do is draw yiff art and fuel the stereotype.
I'm a furry and I actually agree with him. This "war" is stupid.
how do you fucking know what a troll dose and dosn't take seriosly, honestly? i guess there are some who do and some who don't. but how do i know. How do you? are you the king of all trolls, do you know what every single one of them thinks. Oh and congradulations i've wasted my first agressive "fuck" in the many comments i've left on you, but you fliped me off and i'm returning the favor. so (FUCK YOU)! ;). i took what you said verry seriously up to that point.
i agree, the furry comment fight is nothing like the things Hitler did to the jews. But its the belifes that the furries are worrying about. put it this way, if a furr hater, the absessive deluded kind who lose sleep over the fact that there are furries and are highly religios and take furries as an enemy of god were to come to power with no laws above them and an army willing to die for him whats the first thing you think this furrie despiser would do. what will he think its his destiny to do
I doubt you actually know anything about the Holocaust, STFU and furries are antisemitic. You know nothing, go dress in your fucking lion suit and stop running your mouth about the Jews.
I'm Jewish and this is bullshit. Making fun of you is not the same as killing 6 million of you for no reason. stop being ignorant and read a fucking book.
I'm with you on that. The thing is I don't know if a furry ever actually said this. I never saw the offending video. This guy provides no links, no evidence. If any furry actually did compare this situation to the Holocaust then whoever said that has mental issues or was joking (in poor taste).
BTW I've studied Hitler, learned about the Holocaust in school, and watch the history channel - so I know. And I don't hate Jews or anybody else.
I know what this guy is talking about, it's not in one particular video but is hinted at in several videos, and said outright in some comments. I'm just tired of the discrimination against the Jewish people, and the furries that compare themselves to the Jews are one of the most irratating types.
Sorry if I came off a little pissy in the first comment I was pretty mad though
I'm going off "Old Testament" history. It seems there was alot of sanctimonious slaughter in Abraham's time. It wasn't good if you were a tribe that got in their way. It wasn't good if you were a raped woman, you'd be forced by law to marry your rapist. Alot of bad crap has happened in human history, nobody's hands are clean.
What I said before was unfair and unnecessary though, sorry.
It's fine man, at least I stumbled upon someone who would actually talk this through and not shout obscenities at me over the internet. We can't really blame anyone for the killings that happened during the Old Testament times though, because that was a normal part of life for them. It still happens today on the continent of Africa, history is all one big struggle for power and nothing more. Thanks for being so understanding and such.
@kaiserzero61 Uh it really is the same, last i checked furies ARE being killed for what they believe in. People keep not using their heads and I think thats the worst part of america, speaking and not knowing what is it they are saying.
Wether furries get killed for being furry or not, I'm not sure of, but even if they did get killed, what you're saying is pretty stupid.
During the holocaust, jews had no rights to do, well, anything, countless jews were LEGALLY sent concentration camps to work under horrible conditions or to get killed. Sure, furries aren't loved either, but it's not like we have some crazy dictator in germany killing millions and getting away with it.
Sometimes I think we furs deserve to be trolled. :/
You're just repeating what others have said and also taking it at point value. So my advice is to look into what i'm saying more so that what you want to believe I'm saying. Is this generation so far from understanding even the simple things? Death has a good point as to what i'm saying.
there not saying being killed by the millions is as bad as being hated on the internet. they are trying to point out the belife of that. that the only thing keeping people from killing them for there belifes is the fact that there under a government.
@jakeyatthedisco19 You say something on the internet likee that and it very well may not be true, I'm distantly jewish, true or false? You are being childish by not accepting the fact that we are allowed to compare to you, as there are not only furrys but other fandoms having the sam trouble. My friend got beat up for wearing a furry custom.
You are right, its not the same thing. But you have missed the point.
Do you know how many furries have had death threats? I can guarantee all of them...whether on youtube or elswhere and I know furries that have been killed just for being furries. So...you missed the point. But dont worry...you arent the first and you wont be the last.
I don't see your point being very relevent - it's the same thing as stated; if you don't want to believe that: It's a breach of the Freedom of Speech.
Freedom of Speech only affects the government. The government can't punish you for what you say. But I can punch you in the face if you say something I disagree with. Haha I wouldn't but you catch my drift.
@proudnole realistically speaking you can be law-fully terminated (killed) for saying anything out of line. Wether you like it or not it's the truth. Ever watch enemy of he state? Some movies pull on true topics and place it in a fictional way to help people enjoy it. And for punching me, lucky you live somewhere else xD
Well, shit, he's right. Trolls should not be compared to Nazi, "Furry" is not a race, religion or sexual orientation, it's a hobby.
"Furfag" doesn't refer to sexuality.
And for the love of Mike, stop taking them so damn seriously! DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
To trolls:
All I've ever really asked of you is to make the distinction between the yiff and the clean. The yiffers are the ones who actually do the things you make fun of, despite the fact that they're still not hurting anyone.
Furries are sub humans who are courious about interspecies relationships, but are too afraid to have sex with an animal so they dress up in ridiculous fursuits and have sex with each other. I am in the process of deleting and banning all furries from youtube as I don't want them spreading their furrie proganda on my dime.
Subhumans? You mean subculture? They are normal humans, the majority of people are stupid and gullible anyway :P They are just incredibly stupid. Living blissfully ignorant to the fact that they are humans.
Obviously, you don't really think this is a petty argument. If that were true, you would've ignored me by now. I'd even say that deep down the stakes are pretty high to you.
Just because you have the right to free speech, which includes making fun of a silly little sub-culture, doesn't mean you won't look like a loser who cares too much about it while you do.
"Just because you have the right to free speech, which includes making fun of a silly little sub-culture, doesn't mean you won't look like a loser who cares too much about it while you do."
You honestly fail to see the irony in your statement, don't you?
You my friend have a head shaped like an oval. Therefore you can wear any kind of hat or glasses you want!
That will be 500$ please
:D
Also I thought Anti-Semitism was hate aganist the Jews? Yes? Even if it isn't there still is a very strong correlation with that era so therefore you put furries in the same status with Hitler. I use the same technique when writing argumenitive papers. In fact I put eating snack foods equivalent to smoking pot if you do either before coming to class. Yay!
comparing minor inconveniences to the horrors of the holocaust dose NOT make one antisemitic (what kind of moron comes to that conclusion) it DOES however make one an ignorant ass. more over, i would advise against saying something like this without stating that SOME (very little) furries say this crap. saying all furries are antisemitic is retarded, i mean there are Jewish furries. one chick said the same thing about Catrina, but you don't go saying "the ironic antisemitism of Catrina victims"
"i would advise against saying something like this without stating that SOME (very little) furries say this crap."
A fuckton of them do, moron. Furries are famous for it. that's how the old meme of the "Furry Holocaust" got started. you're pretty new to the net, aintcha?
"saying all furries are antisemitic is retarded, i mean there are Jewish furries."
I didn't say ALL furries, dumbass. Got any more starwmen fallacies, mr. scarecrow?
"comparing minor inconveniences to the horrors of the holocaust dose NOT make one antisemitic"
Oh, I'd say trying to exploit the agtrocities committed on Jews to try and stifle debate aboput a perverted fandom QUITE antisemitic without realizing it.
the dictionary defines antisemitic as being prejudice, hostile or discriminating against Jews. again, making comparing ones minor struggles to their grater one makes you an ignorant dumb ass to be sure, but there is a difference between actively hating and just being dumb. i know a "fuckton" of furries and i only ever met one that said that shit. most don't even bother to reply or retaliate to trolltards. i never said you said all, i advised you against saying it because you didn't specify. read
"the dictionary defines antisemitic as being prejudice, hostile or discriminating against Jews."
And I'd say that exploiting them counts as discrimination. It certainly is hostile, whether you know it or not. Just ask PETA. When they violated Godwin, the Jews took it as a VERY hostile thing.
"again, making comparing ones minor struggles to their grater one makes you an ignorant dumb ass to be sure"
I'm not comparing minor struggles to greater ones by saying that they're antisemitic.
lol so your currently going by the stop light fallacy (i would say the straw man also but i think what i said genuinely went over your head). "their famous for it" is NOT evidence, its a fallacy. were also famous for wearing fursuits even though fursuiters are only a minority in the fandom, THAT is why its a fallacy. i wasn't talking about you when i said comparing minor struggles to the holocaust is moronic, i was talking about these furries. again i suggest you read better before replying ;3.
""their famous for it" is NOT evidence, its a fallacy."
At any other time, you'd be correct...if you weren't so new to not only the internet but to your own fandom, as I'm starting to suspect.
Why do you think furries are so disliked in the first place? Do you honestly think your bad rep formed out of nothing? Just as we trolls are famous for certain behavior(e.g. you ignore us long enough we go away), so are you furries.
lol ohhh i see. so in your oh so special case all the rules of basic logic cease to exist XD. lol thats about the most perfect example of the fallacy of special pleading i have come across. im totally using that in my tutoring X3. one thing i can say for you trolltards, you provide me with many learning aids for logic tutoring XD. using a fallacy in an attempt to support a prior fallacy, interesting indeed X3.
zavynumbraluminarium/ (You can direct to his link on FA)
This furry stated, "Zavyn el Canis Chiropterus_SPORE SPORE SPOOOOREEEE!!!! =D =D =D says: (9:54:16 PM)maybe if hitler would have killed them all then he wouldnt have been influenced by them and i would be complete, and not mutilated like i am now"
sure its not as bad as all that holocaust shit that when down a long time ago.
but still, were being attacked and from the looks of things, were not really progressing dipomaticly.
Furries are still going to be around no matter how many hateful things are said. all that hate will go away evently, just trying to progress it a little bit faster ya know?
You can't be "attacked" over the internet. In fact, you can choose to ignore trolls entirely.
"Furries are still going to be around no matter how many hateful things are said."
Words won't stop your fandom. It's more likely your fandom will die by a combination of furries ruining it themselves and a worsening economy making it impossible to lead a furry lifestyle.
okay, your not seeming to get the power of verbal abuse. It doesn't do good on one's person when you receiving the shorter end of the social power stick.
words have a lot of power man, that's why there is government, why there is diplomacy, its also why humans haven't killed our selves off yet. used in a bad way words can do horrible things.
also,furs tend to be more cost efficient than most others. seeing a we tend to be more Eco friendly.
"okay, your not seeming to get the power of verbal abuse."
No, you're not seeing the power of people to ignore a troll. Ignore a troll long enough and he will move on to a weaker target. It's a documented fact. Trolls tend to have short attention spans when on the internet because the internet means essentially nothing to them. Furries get trolled more than any other group because they throw the biggest tantrums of any group on the internet.
A sociopath does not understand the difference between good and evil. A troll actually understands good and evil BETTER than the average noob internet user. The secret is this: 1)The internet isn't real 2)Nobody forces a target to reply to us, they do it of their own free will. 3)1and 2 add up to no guilt for a troll.
"At what point does an individual feel the must make open disrespect to a spicific group, is beyond me."
It's not a matter of "must". It's a matter of "I feel like it because these self-important fucktards are too funny not to make fun of. It's the same impulse that drives RL comedians.
"what of the impressionable people who are not trollers? they eat this stuff up and end up really hating people."
Another group used that same train of thought to put those stupid warning labels on music
A ounce of preventions is worth more than a ton of repent.
Would your prefer if people started attacking you social background? There many things, horrible things, that could be applyed to your heritige and poked fun at.
most simply don't do it out of respect, knowing that you had nothing to do with it.
Also:
no shit, there are aspects of the music industry that is just fucked up.
music now produced a generation of fasion zombies. most free thinkers are dying. subject to the media's lies.
"Would your prefer if people started attacking you social background?"
Actually, they have. And I didn't care because it's just the internet. In any case, I'm not going to censor myself because of what "impressionable" people might do. Nothing is ever gained from censorship. Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
people have the right to say what they want, but if they embreach on the right of others, the violators rights are pretty muh void. That is the current rule dictated by the goverment, altho it is kinda changed given the situation.
I would much prefer to preven ANY sort of conflict, and generate more understanding. That is pretty much why I type now. so that people reading won't a branded with one sided bias of people who don't give a shit about others.
I will do my best, to keep things on nutural grounds. I post here, so that your opinion, does not result in more people who hate, because you clearly have no care that goes beyond the key board.
people do care, even if you don't have the capacity to give a shit. its more than the furs your attacking.
its the people who are reading that you effect as well.
People are still effect, wether you care or not. history has shown this to be true.
"I post here, so that your opinion, does not result in more people who hate, because you clearly have no care that goes beyond the key board."
You know, I've just discovered a major whole in your thesis. You seem to be worried that I'm "spreading hate". But I don't see it that way. Where in my videos have I asked people to go out and physically attack furries? Not once. All I've done to them is to shine a light on things they would hide from the public and made jokes about that.
well, that's like saying "the kitchen knife is only for cutting food." yet you can kill people with it.
The power behind word is amazing, like the power of the writing in the bible, it can put people to tears. (not endorsing religion, but I can prove this by the fact that I live in a Christan household.)
They may be just "words" but they do have impact.
hm...
I guess this shows that you refuse to take responsibility over what you say, ya?
"well, that's like saying "the kitchen knife is only for cutting food." yet you can kill people with it."
Wrong. Free speech never killed anyone. Silence? Silence causes more damage than speech.
"They may be just "words" but they do have impact."
And coverups like the furry fandom tries also have an impact. If I have a choice between saying something that has an impact and keeping silent, I'll side with free speech over fascism.
"I guess this shows that you refuse to take responsibility over what you say"
Hardly. As said, I've never told people to go out and kill furries.
But I could even more easily say that you refuse to take responsibility for the false dichotomies and hatreds of furries who try to silence any and all criticism of the fandom.
Dude, free speech can always be countered with other free speech if it's true. I'm doing your fandom no favors if whitewash what's actually going on.
yes, you have the power to do and say as you wish, with in the bounds of the law. but should a person act in a way that affects or threatens the social libeties that others are given. the offenders "rights" or technicly null and void.
altho its not really acted upon being that furrie is just kind of a hooby.
ah damn you, Im getting all political for no reason.
well, at least one can say its better than the. "fuck u, u fucking faggot!" responce.
Yeah making fun of furries doesn't make you a nazi, making fun of other races doesn't even make you a nazi.
Seriously guys, we're talking about a political group here. Using the word nazi in itself is the same as calling someone a liberal, it just implies political beliefs. Nationalist Socialist ideas aren't too far off from good. The Militarism of the Hitler Administration was wrong, however nazis on the other hand, not so much.
so i understood why people hate furries(because they are "gay" and they have sex with animals(?) blah blah) but i dont get why people hate jews and uhh afroamericans....what have they ever did to you?
Most people hate furries because of their holier than thou attitude and claims of "persecution". Yeah right. Trolling on the internet is nothing compared to what Jews, blacks, homosexuals, and others have experienced in real life.
"Furry" is a fetish. Nothing more. Keep it in the bedroom, like normal intelligent people. Then people will leave you furry idiots alone.
i am not a furry, but i am a "fag" and we were forced into concentration camps by the Nazis right along side the jews. i think it is horrible how ppl toss the word fag around from the safety of their computer where they cant get their teeth knocked out by a homosexual MAN. anyway, why dont you also flag the trolls vids as hatespeach too, since you care so damn much about the dispute. it would certainly qualify. i dont understand furries, but i sure as hell sympathize. stay strong furry friends
"why dont you also flag the trolls vids as hatespeach too, since you care so damn much about the dispute."
Because the word "fag" means nothing to the trolls. They call everybody by that, e.g. furfag, christfag, halofag, animefag, etc. They even call each other "fag", e.g. "oldfag", "newfag", "trollfag".
"Fag" is the most watered-down word on the internet.
Because the word "Nazi" means nothing to the trolls. They call everybody by that, e.g. furNazi, christNazi, haloNazi, animeNazi, etc. They even call each other "Nazi", e.g. "oldNazi", "newNazi", "trollNazi".
"Nazi" is the most watered-down word on the internet.
""Nazi" is the most watered-down word on the internet."
Calling someone a Nazi has a logical fallacy attached to it, dumbass. It's called "appeal to emotion". Not the same thing as calling someone a "fag" because "fags" never committed mass murder based on ethnicity.
And no, I'd say your argument looks far more asinine.
"Fag and faggot are the words Nazi's used as they shoved them in ovens."
And that was almost a century ago, you moron. And it was before the internet. And since people on the #chans even refer to THEMSELVES as "fags", that just goes to show how watered down the word "fag" has become. Has no emotional leverage to anyone except teen fucktards and middle-aged fursuiters who are stuck in the past.
That applies to nazi as well, you're beating yourself here.
And since people on the #chans even refer to THEMSELVES as "fags", that just goes to show how watered down the word "fag" has become.
What the chans are the standard for word meaning now? A minority of the internet?
Why do you think they chose the word? Because it's shocking to anybody who doesn't visit chan sites. When they raid and call each other fags, it helps troll.
"Because it's shocking to anybody who doesn't visit chan sites."
And btw, don't YOU visit the chan sites yourself?
Anyway, you're still a moron. Calling someone a fag is different from calling someone a Nazi becaue they mean different things. You're also forgetting that fags were AROUND BEFORE THE NAZIS AND AFTER THEM. Your theory fails because you're linking fags SOLELY to one time period.
Not to mention that calling someone a Nazi has a much more loaded meaning, i.e. you're comparing them to a racist who condones racial mass murder. When you call someone a fag, you're comparing them to a homo at worst. Usually, it's just a general word.
Btw, I don't know where you git the retarded I dea that I have a "double standard" on this. After all, I've said it's a logical fallacy to call someone a Nazi...and I haven't called you or any other furry Nazis, CancerFang.
Ah, but "fag" isn't a loaded word. I've already explained why: 1)fags didn't commit mass murder based on racism 2)People are willing to even call themselves "fag" in certain instances. Hell, gays even call themselves fags a lot. Are you going to bitch at a gay if he calls Godwin on you and tells you what a stupid furfag your are for comparing internet teasing to the Holocaust?
1)1) Fags were apart of the mass murdered, same event, different POV.
Not merely a "different POV", dumbass. Nazis were villains. Fags were victims, faggot.
"2) People who call each other fags shouldn't have a problem with calling each other Nazi's. Both words have a history of hate behind them."
Oh, so you want me to start calling furries Nazis too? Actually, for a troll to call a furry a Nazi is just as stupid as when a furry says it to a troll. (cont.)
"Godwin's law is proof that Nazi is a watered down word, all Hitler and Nazi is now is a way to win internet threads."
No, it isn't. You obviously haven't researched Godwin's Law, you idiot. Godwin's Law states that as an internet exchange takes place, the longer it goes on the greater the chance of one side calling the other a Nazi increases until it approches 1. It also states that Nazi analogies are linked to the appeal to emotion fallacy. (cont.)
It then states that once someone calls someone a Nazi, the debate has pretty much devolved into nothing more than a shouting match because Nazi is such a charged word. Therefore, the one who calls someone a Nazi automatically loses the argument for INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO WIN THE DEBATE BY DERAILING IT AT THE SAME TIME.
And guess what? You managed to Godwin yourself like a true noob of the internet within a very short time, faggot.
Dude, you lost. You're presenting opinions as fact in a debate. Weather or not I "Godwin myself" doesn't matter.
For someone who knows so much about it, you would know that in making a point and using Nazi doesn't trigger Godwin's law. As I did. It only happens when the best thing I can come up with is Nazi. My use of nazi never derailed the debate. S it never triggered it. So quit trying to straw man me. (I'm sure you remember this)
Because, this video was telling furries that their comparison of internet teasing to the Holocaust was irrelavant because there was no mass murder of furries taking place. You totally ignored that and went off on a huge tangent about "fags" instead.
"When I made all my points."
You didn't make a single point. Quite the opposite, you breached Godwin quicker than any other noob I've ever encountered.
Hardly. and you're the one presenting opinions as fact, i.e. that "fag" is just as loaded a word as "Nazi" and should have a Godwin-type law attached to it.
Well, since NOBODY on the internet has ever argued such a thing before(not even the gays), I'd say that "fag" is not anywhere near as loaded a word as Nazi. Just because you're sensitive about the word fag, doesn't mean everybody else is.
"I'm pretty sure a "hate word" (as in the emotion) carries "appeal to emotion""
It's not a hate word. It's a watered down word, especially on the internet.
"No fags never committed mass murder, they where part of the murdered."
Right. THANKS FOR FINALLY ADMITTING THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS YOU FAGGOT. Nazi is a much more loaded word than fag because of the VERY DIFFERENCE YOU MENTIONED.
Godwin's Law says you lost the argument a long time ago, btw.
also, to you furries, the reason people hate people like you is because 90% if the furries we meet make ridiculous accusations, or are extreme elitists. that's why.
I personally know a furry in real life, and he doesn't know I know. he has high grades, but has no friends. However, it is his own fault.
He tries to tell our calculus teacher how to teach math, tells us how he can build a computer better than a $4000 AW computer, and also rants about his test grades, when he guesses the wrong answer. He is also an elitist, and the best part is he showed me a furry drawing, and asked if it was good, not knowing i knew what it was.
I am a furry, but it does disturb me that some furries take insults way too seriously. However, consider furry-haters some of whom truly think furries should all be killed for their beliefs. And as for your flagging of "Nazi comparisons", that is infringing upon the free speech rights of the people posting those comments.
What the fuck I don't get it, Why are people who are throwing around "Fag" even care about trivializing the real holocaust? That blows my furry little mind.
That and to any furry reading this, grow up, stop whining and maybe we can get some god damn respect. This too blows my furry mind.
"Why are people who are throwing around "Fag" even care about trivializing the real holocaust?"
"Fag" is the all time most watered-down word on the internet. It doesn't even have to mean homosexual anymore. Hell, it isn't even an insult in many cases.
So fag has been trivialized and you don't care, then why care about the word Nazi being trivialized? It makes the Jewish plight seem trivialized too? But trivializing a word that was used as the forefront of hate against gays trivializes their plight too. Guess who was next to the Jews in the oven in concentration camps? Gays! Either fag and Nazi or both off limits are they both are okay to throw around. Me? I I'll call someone a fag and a Nazi. You Nazifagniggerkykewop.
"So fag has been trivialized and you don't care, then why care about the word Nazi being trivialized?"
I already told you why. You are simply desperately looking for a way to breach Godwin's Law safely. Here's the thing, you furries aren't a race. Neither are you a sexual orientation. Nor a religion. And "fag" has lost its meaning completely, even to the point where gays call each other that.
Anyway, go look up something on Wikipedia called Godwin's Law, faggot.
If Nazi is used like you say you don't want it to be, it will become just a trivial as fag.
You're mad about one and NOT mad about the other. A double standard, A.K.A. Hypocrisy.
Furries being a race/religion/orientation is complete off topic.
You support the emofag HOLOCAUST
See why I call you a hypocrite here? you are.
Also this has NOTHING to do with godwin's law. I'm calling you hypocrite and you're defending yourself. Stop bringing up things that don't pertain to this discussion.
"You're mad about one and NOT mad about the other. A double standard, A.K.A. Hypocrisy."
I'm critical of one and not the other because they are two different words with two different meanings. Calling someone a Nazi is far more loaded than calling someone a fag, moron.
"Furries being a race/religion/orientation is complete off topic."
No, it's EXACTLY on topic. Even YouTube ToS agrees with me on that. (cont.)
And? Emos CHOSE to be emos. Therefore, they should be held accountable for their own actions.
"Also this has NOTHING to do with godwin's law."
o rly? you obviously haven't reasearched Godwin's Law yet, faggot. Godwin's Law states among other things, that calling someone a Nazi is connected to a logical fallacy known as "appeal to emotion". Calling someone a "fag" is not connected to that fallacy because Nazis and fags ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS
Seeing as how the nazis are so bad for I don't know, doing the holocaust?
So we can't call you a nazi, but you support nazi actions?
Just because the word nazi is mentioned doesn't mean this has anything to do with Godwin's law. The fact of someone losing a debate by calling someone a nazi is not the point being discussed.
You're trying to say it's okay to trivialize one word but not okay for another.
"So we can't call you a nazi, but you support nazi actions?"
Ah, but I don't support Nazi actions, faggot. Calling someone a faggot isn't up to Nazi levels. Mass murdering them is. Now you're using the strawman argument fallacy.
But it's hilarious. You're now saying that name calling=mass murder. And all because you weren't smart enough to do a Wikipedia search for Godwin's Law.
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Alexodia 7 months ago
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Alexodia 7 months ago
If your going to Insult us at least speak louder so I can hear you over my server racks. Even at max volume I couldn't hear you.
Alexodia 7 months ago
Wow, this video is hilarious. You have trouble interpreting things, my friend.
ITSbigwillystyle 7 months ago
Wow this argument is really fun!!!
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
Jesus people it isn't that horrible. Just don't care what they think. You don't know them, you don't like them, and nothing they say has an affect on you. Furries, ignore the haters, and lets all get back to good ol' fashion fursuiting.
Inkrunner12 9 months ago
@Inkrunner12 ignoring the problem yeah that's going to fix it try harder furfag
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 What's that? It's hard to hear you over the sound of my indifference.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 1. this is something you read you don't need to hear me furfag
2.implying the furries are a race
3. its the fucking internet
4. you are not a human animal hybrid
5. your difference is that you contently obsess over anything fucking animal related and fuck it all to hell
6. fursuits really? do you hide under that mascot costume so you can mask you fat pimply face?
here are 6 reasons why to fuck off and get away from your computer screen :D
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 1. Well since you went through all the trouble i suppose i'll humor you
2. Furries aren't a race, we're a lifestyle, who said we were?
3. I know it the internet, i don't take it seriously
4. We don't think we are human-animal hybrids, we just think walking talking animals are cool.
5. If you mean beastiality no we don't do that, Why would i hurt an innocent animal? And if you mean fursuit sex we don't do that either, that's just hugging, which somehow you idiots mistook for humping
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 i ment the porn
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 Oh. Well yes we do have porn that part is true. But being a furry has very little to do witht he porn.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 ohhh so it more focus on obsessive behavior like prancing around and pretending that you are a fucking badger.
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 Yes, that's exactly what it focuses on. All furries pretedn to be animals, thats what we do, and what we are...GET...THE FUCK....OVER IT!!!!
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 when you mean "what we are" you mean a bunch of idiots who think pretending will fix all issues in life?
and before LOLZ NAWT ALL OF US DO DAT
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 WE don't do it to solve our problems, we do it because its fun and we enjoy doing it, just like how people at Anime Cons ENJOY cosplay, and how gamers ENJOY gaming. And its true, not all of us do fursuit sex, barely any of us do.....look its not a fetish, its not a cult, its a lifestyle, like being a crossdresser or a Buddhist, if you don't like it you don't thats fine, its none of your business anyway, so jsut ignore us and we'll ignore you......bitch.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 • a course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment : he had a fetish for writing more opinions each year than any other justice.
fursuits, fursonas, fantasizing sex
ORLY furfag
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 A.) Furfag? Really, is that the only insult in your vocabulary? You do realize we consider it a cmpliment now right?
B.) suddenly its irrational and excessive to be committed to who you are?
C.) My fetish is for fur, get it right.
D.)I don't have to argue with you, i just hink its fun.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
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@Inkrunner12
lol look at number nine
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deeerp1 8 months ago
@Inkrunner12 oh really THEN WHY THE FUCK IS THERE FURSIUT PORN HUH?
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 Cuz unfortunately, some furries are extremely perverted, about 5% of us actually. The rest of us find fursuit sex disgusting
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
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@Inkrunner12 5. If you mean beastiality no we don't do that, Why would i hurt an innocent animal? And if you mean fursuit sex we don't do that either, that's just hugging, which
you are a hypocritical moron
deeerp1 8 months ago
@deeerp1 Sorry, ran out of characters
6. Oh no an insult to my appearance! I'm so emotionally traumatized!! Here you are assuming all furries are ugly, which is untrue. Fursuits are just a way of us living out our characters in real life, kind of like cosplay at Anime cons.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
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@Inkrunner12 i didn't say all of them are ugly just you
deeerp1 8 months ago
The Internet: A place where people unleash there drama, sadly there are a lot of overly dramatic people, whether they are gay, furry, racists, trolls, etc.
people just need to get laid, and calm down,
I mean if you want drama, porn, and violence, go to the internet
but if you want to gain self-esteem, or have issues, get off the internet, and go talk about it to you family or friends, before you start comparing furries to the holocaust, and wanting to kill yourself. (damn internet emos)
ShadowResearcher 11 months ago 2
@ShadowResearcher Thanks you!!! I'm a furry but jesus these people are going over the limit here.
Inkrunner12 8 months ago
I agree. Though your video is reversed, and the Chiefs suck ass. Go Pittsburgh!!! ^w^
FrostByte421 1 year ago
ok hating furries is nowhere near as bad as the holocost because we are not being killed for being furries and where not being crouded into camps and killed
WolfFurryPride 1 year ago
@UndergroundHome - you probably couldn't hack your way through a paper sack.
Ghost333999 1 year ago
Well, I personally don't think it's a big deal. That's a ridiculous comparison. Hitler and Trolls? Not much in common, honestly.
KeeraMoonSoul 1 year ago
lol when i fight trolls i when ^_^ hackers when over trolls. When you tell a troll you know what place he is in he or she laughs tell them where they are and they run.
UnergroundHome 1 year ago
@UnergroundHome lol wut?
TheCanCollecter 1 year ago
I can't believe some furries have the audacity to compare these trolls to fucking hitler.
Trolls are nothing. They are just mere annoyances who don't have a life.
They shit they do is NOTHING compared to the holocaust. I wish Hitler would come back to life and show them what REAL torture is.
DracoAzule 1 year ago
@DracoAzule Yeah, they do have lives. Ultra is married and has a house.
TheCanCollecter 1 year ago
@TheCanCollecter Then I pity the woman who has to sleep with a man that has so many self esteem issues.
DracoAzule 1 year ago
@DracoAzule No. Trolling is for lulz... Nothing more. Thx
TheCanCollecter 1 year ago
@TheCanCollecter I know what it's for.
If he didn't have so many self esteem issues he wouldn't have to resort to trolling.
Most furries I know, including myself, don't need to put others down in order to have a good laugh. :)
DracoAzule 1 year ago
It's so dumb that even ultraforge can't think of a creative thing to say.
"Furry is not a religion"
If Scientology is considered a religion, most of the fandom isn't far behind. Let's face it, the people fighting this Great Furry War could be diagnosed with a mental disorder by TOM CRUISE of all people. This goes especially for the furries who demand a good reputation when all they do is draw yiff art and fuel the stereotype.
I'm a furry and I actually agree with him. This "war" is stupid.
Kelarre653 1 year ago
And they are vulnerable to the trolls because the trolls know that the furries will always take the internet too seriously.
coolfurriedude 1 year ago
how do you fucking know what a troll dose and dosn't take seriosly, honestly? i guess there are some who do and some who don't. but how do i know. How do you? are you the king of all trolls, do you know what every single one of them thinks. Oh and congradulations i've wasted my first agressive "fuck" in the many comments i've left on you, but you fliped me off and i'm returning the favor. so (FUCK YOU)! ;). i took what you said verry seriously up to that point.
0117eyeball 1 year ago
i agree, the furry comment fight is nothing like the things Hitler did to the jews. But its the belifes that the furries are worrying about. put it this way, if a furr hater, the absessive deluded kind who lose sleep over the fact that there are furries and are highly religios and take furries as an enemy of god were to come to power with no laws above them and an army willing to die for him whats the first thing you think this furrie despiser would do. what will he think its his destiny to do
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RobbytheLion 2 years ago
I doubt you actually know anything about the Holocaust, STFU and furries are antisemitic. You know nothing, go dress in your fucking lion suit and stop running your mouth about the Jews.
I'm Jewish and this is bullshit. Making fun of you is not the same as killing 6 million of you for no reason. stop being ignorant and read a fucking book.
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
I'm with you on that. The thing is I don't know if a furry ever actually said this. I never saw the offending video. This guy provides no links, no evidence. If any furry actually did compare this situation to the Holocaust then whoever said that has mental issues or was joking (in poor taste).
BTW I've studied Hitler, learned about the Holocaust in school, and watch the history channel - so I know. And I don't hate Jews or anybody else.
RobbytheLion 2 years ago
I know what this guy is talking about, it's not in one particular video but is hinted at in several videos, and said outright in some comments. I'm just tired of the discrimination against the Jewish people, and the furries that compare themselves to the Jews are one of the most irratating types.
Sorry if I came off a little pissy in the first comment I was pretty mad though
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
Although it did piss me off when you said my ancestors did worse than the Nazis did to us.
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
I'm going off "Old Testament" history. It seems there was alot of sanctimonious slaughter in Abraham's time. It wasn't good if you were a tribe that got in their way. It wasn't good if you were a raped woman, you'd be forced by law to marry your rapist. Alot of bad crap has happened in human history, nobody's hands are clean.
What I said before was unfair and unnecessary though, sorry.
RobbytheLion 2 years ago
It's fine man, at least I stumbled upon someone who would actually talk this through and not shout obscenities at me over the internet. We can't really blame anyone for the killings that happened during the Old Testament times though, because that was a normal part of life for them. It still happens today on the continent of Africa, history is all one big struggle for power and nothing more. Thanks for being so understanding and such.
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
cry more (in the oven, you dirty Jew)
TheGreatSpankini 1 year ago
It's a good thing furfags are getting slaughtered right now. They are horrible, disgusting and there should be a genocide on this filth.
EseRizzla 2 years ago
I think many people get nazis and terrorists confusicated.......
Nazis where World war two......not the fucking furry war.
You could call any troll that threatens the fandom as a whole a terrorist because they are threatining a large group of people with death.......
ihavenonameeva 2 years ago
Comparing furries getting trolled to millions of Jews dying is an atrocity by itself.
kaiserzero61 2 years ago
@kaiserzero61 Uh it really is the same, last i checked furies ARE being killed for what they believe in. People keep not using their heads and I think thats the worst part of america, speaking and not knowing what is it they are saying.
MikeyWinterTinker 2 years ago
Wether furries get killed for being furry or not, I'm not sure of, but even if they did get killed, what you're saying is pretty stupid.
During the holocaust, jews had no rights to do, well, anything, countless jews were LEGALLY sent concentration camps to work under horrible conditions or to get killed. Sure, furries aren't loved either, but it's not like we have some crazy dictator in germany killing millions and getting away with it.
Sometimes I think we furs deserve to be trolled. :/
TianlongProductions 2 years ago
You're just repeating what others have said and also taking it at point value. So my advice is to look into what i'm saying more so that what you want to believe I'm saying. Is this generation so far from understanding even the simple things? Death has a good point as to what i'm saying.
MikeyWinterTinker 2 years ago
there not saying being killed by the millions is as bad as being hated on the internet. they are trying to point out the belife of that. that the only thing keeping people from killing them for there belifes is the fact that there under a government.
0117eyeball 1 year ago
You are not systematically being killed for no reason at all. Being a furry is not a religion and is certainly not a race of people.
I'm fucking Jewish and this bull shit is pissing me off.
I wouldn't have a problem with furries if they'd fucking stop comparing themselves to my ancestors.
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
@jakeyatthedisco19 You say something on the internet likee that and it very well may not be true, I'm distantly jewish, true or false? You are being childish by not accepting the fact that we are allowed to compare to you, as there are not only furrys but other fandoms having the sam trouble. My friend got beat up for wearing a furry custom.
MikeyWinterTinker 2 years ago
@jakeyatthedisco
hahaha
You told 'em.
kaiserzero61 1 year ago
yeah the Jew thing is way funnier.
TheGreatSpankini 1 year ago
You are right, its not the same thing. But you have missed the point.
Do you know how many furries have had death threats? I can guarantee all of them...whether on youtube or elswhere and I know furries that have been killed just for being furries. So...you missed the point. But dont worry...you arent the first and you wont be the last.
DeathJesterUK 2 years ago
i can't hear you at all.
and religion sucks cock
BUT NOT AS MUCH COCK AS FURFAGS INSIST ON SUCKING
redemption136 2 years ago
I don't see your point being very relevent - it's the same thing as stated; if you don't want to believe that: It's a breach of the Freedom of Speech.
MikeyWinterTinker 2 years ago
Freedom of Speech only affects the government. The government can't punish you for what you say. But I can punch you in the face if you say something I disagree with. Haha I wouldn't but you catch my drift.
proudnole 2 years ago
@proudnole realistically speaking you can be law-fully terminated (killed) for saying anything out of line. Wether you like it or not it's the truth. Ever watch enemy of he state? Some movies pull on true topics and place it in a fictional way to help people enjoy it. And for punching me, lucky you live somewhere else xD
MikeyWinterTinker 2 years ago
That would be hysterical if trolls really sent furries to concentration camps.
BloodyPup 2 years ago
lolz my cooments were meant to go on a diffrent page but..enjoy?
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
i didnt go on youtube to argue with immature idiots like you
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
yiffing is hot
oh and im an atheist
and besides if "god" creats us in his own image he must be a furrie too.
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
How? You're a human... I guess all furries are stupid xD None of them ever actually make a good argument.
Dwaithy 2 years ago
lolz
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
no...wait wait wait then god is a human who wants to be a furrie! yes ha
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
@coolfurriedude god isn't real... stupid furfag
Dwaithy 2 years ago
dude im an atheist lol
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
So is God! :D
Dwaithy 2 years ago
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coolfurriedude 2 years ago
To furs:
Well, shit, he's right. Trolls should not be compared to Nazi, "Furry" is not a race, religion or sexual orientation, it's a hobby.
"Furfag" doesn't refer to sexuality.
And for the love of Mike, stop taking them so damn seriously! DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
To trolls:
All I've ever really asked of you is to make the distinction between the yiff and the clean. The yiffers are the ones who actually do the things you make fun of, despite the fact that they're still not hurting anyone.
ZeroDragonwolf 2 years ago
Now, as for the furs engaged in illegal activities...
IT'S ILLEGAL! The fact that they're furs is irrelevant- criminals should be arrested.
This is as much of a truce as I dare hope for.
In USA freedom of speech is sacred- obnoxious trolls are a reminder of our freedom and equality, as none are above reproach.
Clean furs are just expressing themselves to those relevant to their interests.
"Live and let LOL"
ZeroDragonwolf 2 years ago
I LIKE TO YIFF!!!!!!!!!!1
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
I hate furries.
They wouldn't exist without the internet, which is why I have both love and hate for the interwebz.
Geneva009 2 years ago
Furries are sub humans who are courious about interspecies relationships, but are too afraid to have sex with an animal so they dress up in ridiculous fursuits and have sex with each other. I am in the process of deleting and banning all furries from youtube as I don't want them spreading their furrie proganda on my dime.
marvinurnaked 2 years ago 2
Subhumans? You mean subculture? They are normal humans, the majority of people are stupid and gullible anyway :P They are just incredibly stupid. Living blissfully ignorant to the fact that they are humans.
Dwaithy 2 years ago
i knew you would be one of those fucking bible bangers
oh and ban me and i will file a complaint against u so huge that ur ip will be permanetly baned
coolfurriedude 2 years ago
why because you think your fandom being made fun of is the same as my ancestors being systematically killed for no reasons?
jakeyatthedisco19 2 years ago
Comparing the people insulting furries to Nazis makes their argument irrelevant.
It's Godwin's law.
kklol7 2 years ago
Umm let me clarify something..
There are some assholes in some groups who post stupid shit and act like assholes.
Doing the same to that group by generalizing just makes you just as bad as them.
piromaniac9999 2 years ago
I'm just waiting for one of them to do it to me. I'm itching to file a counterclaim and watch them piss themselves over it.
ultraforge 2 years ago
I've not devoted NEARLY as much time to defending a cause as you have. So petty
quakerbaker1992 2 years ago
"I've not devoted NEARLY as much time to defending a cause as you have."
I'm not defending a cause. I'm making fun of a bunch of petty tyrants who hate free speech and jack off to Starfox for laughs.
But you do seem to be devoting more time to this.
ultraforge 2 years ago
Also:
"So petty"
Obviously, you don't really think this is a petty argument. If that were true, you would've ignored me by now. I'd even say that deep down the stakes are pretty high to you.
ultraforge 2 years ago
Just because you have the right to free speech, which includes making fun of a silly little sub-culture, doesn't mean you won't look like a loser who cares too much about it while you do.
quakerbaker1992 2 years ago
quakerbaker
nor does it make you look like an asshole, does it quakerbaker?
not much anyway you possessed infatuated stalker you.
ItroIl 2 years ago
"Just because you have the right to free speech, which includes making fun of a silly little sub-culture, doesn't mean you won't look like a loser who cares too much about it while you do."
You honestly fail to see the irony in your statement, don't you?
ultraforge 2 years ago
You my friend have a head shaped like an oval. Therefore you can wear any kind of hat or glasses you want!
That will be 500$ please
:D
Also I thought Anti-Semitism was hate aganist the Jews? Yes? Even if it isn't there still is a very strong correlation with that era so therefore you put furries in the same status with Hitler. I use the same technique when writing argumenitive papers. In fact I put eating snack foods equivalent to smoking pot if you do either before coming to class. Yay!
Fathergia 2 years ago
comparing minor inconveniences to the horrors of the holocaust dose NOT make one antisemitic (what kind of moron comes to that conclusion) it DOES however make one an ignorant ass. more over, i would advise against saying something like this without stating that SOME (very little) furries say this crap. saying all furries are antisemitic is retarded, i mean there are Jewish furries. one chick said the same thing about Catrina, but you don't go saying "the ironic antisemitism of Catrina victims"
Hawaiianstile 2 years ago
"i would advise against saying something like this without stating that SOME (very little) furries say this crap."
A fuckton of them do, moron. Furries are famous for it. that's how the old meme of the "Furry Holocaust" got started. you're pretty new to the net, aintcha?
"saying all furries are antisemitic is retarded, i mean there are Jewish furries."
I didn't say ALL furries, dumbass. Got any more starwmen fallacies, mr. scarecrow?
ultraforge 2 years ago
Also:
"comparing minor inconveniences to the horrors of the holocaust dose NOT make one antisemitic"
Oh, I'd say trying to exploit the agtrocities committed on Jews to try and stifle debate aboput a perverted fandom QUITE antisemitic without realizing it.
ultraforge 2 years ago
the dictionary defines antisemitic as being prejudice, hostile or discriminating against Jews. again, making comparing ones minor struggles to their grater one makes you an ignorant dumb ass to be sure, but there is a difference between actively hating and just being dumb. i know a "fuckton" of furries and i only ever met one that said that shit. most don't even bother to reply or retaliate to trolltards. i never said you said all, i advised you against saying it because you didn't specify. read
Hawaiianstile 2 years ago
"the dictionary defines antisemitic as being prejudice, hostile or discriminating against Jews."
And I'd say that exploiting them counts as discrimination. It certainly is hostile, whether you know it or not. Just ask PETA. When they violated Godwin, the Jews took it as a VERY hostile thing.
"again, making comparing ones minor struggles to their grater one makes you an ignorant dumb ass to be sure"
I'm not comparing minor struggles to greater ones by saying that they're antisemitic.
ultraforge 2 years ago
Furthermore:
""most don't even bother to reply or retaliate to trolltards."
LMAO!!! Wow, you really are ignorant not only of internet history going way back but you're also ignorant of recent internet history on YT, as well.
NEWS FLASH: Tons of furries respond to tis channel alone. Most of them do it even after blocking me.
ultraforge 2 years ago
lol so your currently going by the stop light fallacy (i would say the straw man also but i think what i said genuinely went over your head). "their famous for it" is NOT evidence, its a fallacy. were also famous for wearing fursuits even though fursuiters are only a minority in the fandom, THAT is why its a fallacy. i wasn't talking about you when i said comparing minor struggles to the holocaust is moronic, i was talking about these furries. again i suggest you read better before replying ;3.
Hawaiianstile 2 years ago
""their famous for it" is NOT evidence, its a fallacy."
At any other time, you'd be correct...if you weren't so new to not only the internet but to your own fandom, as I'm starting to suspect.
Why do you think furries are so disliked in the first place? Do you honestly think your bad rep formed out of nothing? Just as we trolls are famous for certain behavior(e.g. you ignore us long enough we go away), so are you furries.
ultraforge 2 years ago
lol ohhh i see. so in your oh so special case all the rules of basic logic cease to exist XD. lol thats about the most perfect example of the fallacy of special pleading i have come across. im totally using that in my tutoring X3. one thing i can say for you trolltards, you provide me with many learning aids for logic tutoring XD. using a fallacy in an attempt to support a prior fallacy, interesting indeed X3.
Hawaiianstile 2 years ago
fursthermore:
""again, making comparing ones minor struggles to their grater one makes you an ignorant dumb ass to be sure"
I'm not comparing minor struggles to greater ones by saying that they're antisemitic. True, they are antisemitic...but only mildly so.
"i know a "fuckton" of furries and i only ever met one that said that shit."
Doesn't matter. your personal experience=the history of the internet. Furries are still famous for it.
ultraforge 2 years ago
zavynumbraluminarium/ (You can direct to his link on FA)
This furry stated, "Zavyn el Canis Chiropterus_SPORE SPORE SPOOOOREEEE!!!! =D =D =D says: (9:54:16 PM)maybe if hitler would have killed them all then he wouldnt have been influenced by them and i would be complete, and not mutilated like i am now"
InsurgenistCujo 2 years ago
well, look at it like this.
were still being openly attacked.
sure its not as bad as all that holocaust shit that when down a long time ago.
but still, were being attacked and from the looks of things, were not really progressing dipomaticly.
Furries are still going to be around no matter how many hateful things are said. all that hate will go away evently, just trying to progress it a little bit faster ya know?
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"were still being openly attacked."
You can't be "attacked" over the internet. In fact, you can choose to ignore trolls entirely.
"Furries are still going to be around no matter how many hateful things are said."
Words won't stop your fandom. It's more likely your fandom will die by a combination of furries ruining it themselves and a worsening economy making it impossible to lead a furry lifestyle.
ultraforge 2 years ago
okay, your not seeming to get the power of verbal abuse. It doesn't do good on one's person when you receiving the shorter end of the social power stick.
words have a lot of power man, that's why there is government, why there is diplomacy, its also why humans haven't killed our selves off yet. used in a bad way words can do horrible things.
also,furs tend to be more cost efficient than most others. seeing a we tend to be more Eco friendly.
and plus, its damn fun. not like its gonna stop.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"okay, your not seeming to get the power of verbal abuse."
No, you're not seeing the power of people to ignore a troll. Ignore a troll long enough and he will move on to a weaker target. It's a documented fact. Trolls tend to have short attention spans when on the internet because the internet means essentially nothing to them. Furries get trolled more than any other group because they throw the biggest tantrums of any group on the internet.
ultraforge 2 years ago
"if you do have anything nice to say, don't say it"
just because you have the power to say something doesn't give you a justified reason to do as so.
and on those grounds I find no need to take them seriously. BUT, if that were always the case, we wouldn't be having conflicts like this would we?
honestly I'M rather confused behind the logic of a troller. got nothing better to do with there time than spreading half baked views?
Its sociopath on so many levels...
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"Its sociopath on so many levels..."
A sociopath does not understand the difference between good and evil. A troll actually understands good and evil BETTER than the average noob internet user. The secret is this: 1)The internet isn't real 2)Nobody forces a target to reply to us, they do it of their own free will. 3)1and 2 add up to no guilt for a troll.
ultraforge 2 years ago
ah, then by under that means I am under no grounds to take you seriously.
but still, I question trollers to begin with.
At what point does an individual feel the must make open disrespect to a spicific group, is beyond me.
but, come on.
what of the impressionable people who are not trollers? they eat this stuff up and end up really hating people.
what then?
this entire chain of infection spreads and alot of bad shit happens.
people do take online things seriously.
even if you dont.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"At what point does an individual feel the must make open disrespect to a spicific group, is beyond me."
It's not a matter of "must". It's a matter of "I feel like it because these self-important fucktards are too funny not to make fun of. It's the same impulse that drives RL comedians.
"what of the impressionable people who are not trollers? they eat this stuff up and end up really hating people."
Another group used that same train of thought to put those stupid warning labels on music
ultraforge 2 years ago
A ounce of preventions is worth more than a ton of repent.
Would your prefer if people started attacking you social background? There many things, horrible things, that could be applyed to your heritige and poked fun at.
most simply don't do it out of respect, knowing that you had nothing to do with it.
Also:
no shit, there are aspects of the music industry that is just fucked up.
music now produced a generation of fasion zombies. most free thinkers are dying. subject to the media's lies.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"Would your prefer if people started attacking you social background?"
Actually, they have. And I didn't care because it's just the internet. In any case, I'm not going to censor myself because of what "impressionable" people might do. Nothing is ever gained from censorship. Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
ultraforge 2 years ago
Their is a point in controlled chaos tho.
people have the right to say what they want, but if they embreach on the right of others, the violators rights are pretty muh void. That is the current rule dictated by the goverment, altho it is kinda changed given the situation.
I would much prefer to preven ANY sort of conflict, and generate more understanding. That is pretty much why I type now. so that people reading won't a branded with one sided bias of people who don't give a shit about others.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
(forgive my spelling).
so to sum up what I mean.
I will do my best, to keep things on nutural grounds. I post here, so that your opinion, does not result in more people who hate, because you clearly have no care that goes beyond the key board.
people do care, even if you don't have the capacity to give a shit. its more than the furs your attacking.
its the people who are reading that you effect as well.
People are still effect, wether you care or not. history has shown this to be true.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"I post here, so that your opinion, does not result in more people who hate, because you clearly have no care that goes beyond the key board."
You know, I've just discovered a major whole in your thesis. You seem to be worried that I'm "spreading hate". But I don't see it that way. Where in my videos have I asked people to go out and physically attack furries? Not once. All I've done to them is to shine a light on things they would hide from the public and made jokes about that.
ultraforge 2 years ago
(hahaha, sorry for the long response.)
well, that's like saying "the kitchen knife is only for cutting food." yet you can kill people with it.
The power behind word is amazing, like the power of the writing in the bible, it can put people to tears. (not endorsing religion, but I can prove this by the fact that I live in a Christan household.)
They may be just "words" but they do have impact.
hm...
I guess this shows that you refuse to take responsibility over what you say, ya?
Manguneshane 2 years ago
"well, that's like saying "the kitchen knife is only for cutting food." yet you can kill people with it."
Wrong. Free speech never killed anyone. Silence? Silence causes more damage than speech.
"They may be just "words" but they do have impact."
And coverups like the furry fandom tries also have an impact. If I have a choice between saying something that has an impact and keeping silent, I'll side with free speech over fascism.
ultraforge 2 years ago
@ultraforge So if you're such an advocate for free speech, why are you flagging videos?
LouistheHedgehog 2 years ago
Furthermore:
"I guess this shows that you refuse to take responsibility over what you say"
Hardly. As said, I've never told people to go out and kill furries.
But I could even more easily say that you refuse to take responsibility for the false dichotomies and hatreds of furries who try to silence any and all criticism of the fandom.
Dude, free speech can always be countered with other free speech if it's true. I'm doing your fandom no favors if whitewash what's actually going on.
ultraforge 2 years ago
"people have the right to say what they want, but if they embreach on the right of others, the violators rights are pretty muh void."
It is impossible to "embreach" on the rights of others simply by talking about them.
ultraforge 2 years ago
also, please note:
In "technical" law.
yes, you have the power to do and say as you wish, with in the bounds of the law. but should a person act in a way that affects or threatens the social libeties that others are given. the offenders "rights" or technicly null and void.
altho its not really acted upon being that furrie is just kind of a hooby.
ah damn you, Im getting all political for no reason.
well, at least one can say its better than the. "fuck u, u fucking faggot!" responce.
Manguneshane 2 years ago
Yeah making fun of furries doesn't make you a nazi, making fun of other races doesn't even make you a nazi.
Seriously guys, we're talking about a political group here. Using the word nazi in itself is the same as calling someone a liberal, it just implies political beliefs. Nationalist Socialist ideas aren't too far off from good. The Militarism of the Hitler Administration was wrong, however nazis on the other hand, not so much.
GodlessViking 2 years ago
OK
so i understood why people hate furries(because they are "gay" and they have sex with animals(?) blah blah) but i dont get why people hate jews and uhh afroamericans....what have they ever did to you?
loriziell 3 years ago
"but i dont get why people hate jews and uhh afroamericans....what have they ever did to you?"
Personally, I don't hate blacks or jews either.
ultraforge 3 years ago
nooo im not talking especially about you..dont get me wrong..im talking about the people that do hate them for no aparent reason :\
loriziell 3 years ago
gay.
rOoTbRiAnEATScox 3 years ago
Well said.
Most people hate furries because of their holier than thou attitude and claims of "persecution". Yeah right. Trolling on the internet is nothing compared to what Jews, blacks, homosexuals, and others have experienced in real life.
"Furry" is a fetish. Nothing more. Keep it in the bedroom, like normal intelligent people. Then people will leave you furry idiots alone.
Geneva009 3 years ago 2
i am not a furry, but i am a "fag" and we were forced into concentration camps by the Nazis right along side the jews. i think it is horrible how ppl toss the word fag around from the safety of their computer where they cant get their teeth knocked out by a homosexual MAN. anyway, why dont you also flag the trolls vids as hatespeach too, since you care so damn much about the dispute. it would certainly qualify. i dont understand furries, but i sure as hell sympathize. stay strong furry friends
classwar09 3 years ago
"why dont you also flag the trolls vids as hatespeach too, since you care so damn much about the dispute."
Because the word "fag" means nothing to the trolls. They call everybody by that, e.g. furfag, christfag, halofag, animefag, etc. They even call each other "fag", e.g. "oldfag", "newfag", "trollfag".
"Fag" is the most watered-down word on the internet.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Because the word "Nazi" means nothing to the trolls. They call everybody by that, e.g. furNazi, christNazi, haloNazi, animeNazi, etc. They even call each other "Nazi", e.g. "oldNazi", "newNazi", "trollNazi".
"Nazi" is the most watered-down word on the internet.
See how asinine your argument looks?
TancerFang 3 years ago
""Nazi" is the most watered-down word on the internet."
Calling someone a Nazi has a logical fallacy attached to it, dumbass. It's called "appeal to emotion". Not the same thing as calling someone a "fag" because "fags" never committed mass murder based on ethnicity.
And no, I'd say your argument looks far more asinine.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Accusing someone of a being a homosexual because they say... don't share the same taste in music as you has as much logic as calling them a nazi.
Fag and faggot are the words Nazi's used as they shoved them in ovens. I'm pretty sure a "hate word" (as in the emotion) carries "appeal to emotion"
No fags never committed mass murder, they where part of the murdered.
But please, keep calling me names as they are very good points.
If its okay to call someone a fag, it's okay to call someone a nazi.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"Fag and faggot are the words Nazi's used as they shoved them in ovens."
And that was almost a century ago, you moron. And it was before the internet. And since people on the #chans even refer to THEMSELVES as "fags", that just goes to show how watered down the word "fag" has become. Has no emotional leverage to anyone except teen fucktards and middle-aged fursuiters who are stuck in the past.
ultraforge 3 years ago
And that was almost a century ago, you moron.
That applies to nazi as well, you're beating yourself here.
And since people on the #chans even refer to THEMSELVES as "fags", that just goes to show how watered down the word "fag" has become.
What the chans are the standard for word meaning now? A minority of the internet?
Why do you think they chose the word? Because it's shocking to anybody who doesn't visit chan sites. When they raid and call each other fags, it helps troll.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"Because it's shocking to anybody who doesn't visit chan sites."
And btw, don't YOU visit the chan sites yourself?
Anyway, you're still a moron. Calling someone a fag is different from calling someone a Nazi becaue they mean different things. You're also forgetting that fags were AROUND BEFORE THE NAZIS AND AFTER THEM. Your theory fails because you're linking fags SOLELY to one time period.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Not to mention that calling someone a Nazi has a much more loaded meaning, i.e. you're comparing them to a racist who condones racial mass murder. When you call someone a fag, you're comparing them to a homo at worst. Usually, it's just a general word.
Btw, I don't know where you git the retarded I dea that I have a "double standard" on this. After all, I've said it's a logical fallacy to call someone a Nazi...and I haven't called you or any other furry Nazis, CancerFang.
ultraforge 3 years ago
You care about one word and you ignore the other. Either BOTH words are not okay to trivialize, or both are okay to use how ever you want.
Calling someone a Nazi hurts and makes as much sense as calling someone a faggot or a klan member.
You want to point out that nazi is a loaded word, by all means do.
Just remember that when do you for one and not the other. You're creating a double standard.
Cancerfang, lol. Better then TRancer, seriously why do they always add an "R"?
That pisses me off.
TancerFang 3 years ago
Ah, but "fag" isn't a loaded word. I've already explained why: 1)fags didn't commit mass murder based on racism 2)People are willing to even call themselves "fag" in certain instances. Hell, gays even call themselves fags a lot. Are you going to bitch at a gay if he calls Godwin on you and tells you what a stupid furfag your are for comparing internet teasing to the Holocaust?
ultraforge 3 years ago
1) Fags were apart of the mass murdered, same event, different POV.
2) People who call each other fags shouldn't have a problem with calling each other Nazi's. Both words have a history of hate behind them.
Godwin's law is proof that Nazi is a watered down word, all Hitler and Nazi is now is a way to win internet threads.
If you stop using the word fag, there is NOTHING I can say about your vid. Nothing at all. Like I said, If nazi is sacred then fag is too.
TancerFang 3 years ago
1)1) Fags were apart of the mass murdered, same event, different POV.
Not merely a "different POV", dumbass. Nazis were villains. Fags were victims, faggot.
"2) People who call each other fags shouldn't have a problem with calling each other Nazi's. Both words have a history of hate behind them."
Oh, so you want me to start calling furries Nazis too? Actually, for a troll to call a furry a Nazi is just as stupid as when a furry says it to a troll. (cont.)
ultraforge 3 years ago
"Godwin's law is proof that Nazi is a watered down word, all Hitler and Nazi is now is a way to win internet threads."
No, it isn't. You obviously haven't researched Godwin's Law, you idiot. Godwin's Law states that as an internet exchange takes place, the longer it goes on the greater the chance of one side calling the other a Nazi increases until it approches 1. It also states that Nazi analogies are linked to the appeal to emotion fallacy. (cont.)
ultraforge 3 years ago
It then states that once someone calls someone a Nazi, the debate has pretty much devolved into nothing more than a shouting match because Nazi is such a charged word. Therefore, the one who calls someone a Nazi automatically loses the argument for INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO WIN THE DEBATE BY DERAILING IT AT THE SAME TIME.
And guess what? You managed to Godwin yourself like a true noob of the internet within a very short time, faggot.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Dude, you lost. You're presenting opinions as fact in a debate. Weather or not I "Godwin myself" doesn't matter.
For someone who knows so much about it, you would know that in making a point and using Nazi doesn't trigger Godwin's law. As I did. It only happens when the best thing I can come up with is Nazi. My use of nazi never derailed the debate. S it never triggered it. So quit trying to straw man me. (I'm sure you remember this)
Big words don't mean you win, kid.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"For someone who knows so much about it, you would know that in making a point and using Nazi doesn't trigger Godwin's law."
Yes, it does. Quit trying to restate Godwin's Law, TancerFag.
"It only happens when the best thing I can come up with is Nazi."
No, it happens when you make ANY sort of Nazi analogy. Quit trying to restate what Godwin'a Law says.
"My use of nazi never derailed the debate."
Yes it did. In fact, your whole analogy ignored what this video was about.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Thats from the article YOU pointed me to. Okay?
The very source you directed me to says my use doesn't count.
Please tell me how it can derail it at the end? When I made all my points.
My analogy has nothing to do with the video, why should it take it into account?
It's calling you a cherry picking hypocrite.
You present opinions as fact, you have no case.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"Please tell me how it can derail it at the end?"
Because, this video was telling furries that their comparison of internet teasing to the Holocaust was irrelavant because there was no mass murder of furries taking place. You totally ignored that and went off on a huge tangent about "fags" instead.
"When I made all my points."
You didn't make a single point. Quite the opposite, you breached Godwin quicker than any other noob I've ever encountered.
ultraforge 3 years ago
"It's calling you a cherry picking hypocrite.
You present opinions as fact, you have no case."
Hardly. and you're the one presenting opinions as fact, i.e. that "fag" is just as loaded a word as "Nazi" and should have a Godwin-type law attached to it.
Well, since NOBODY on the internet has ever argued such a thing before(not even the gays), I'd say that "fag" is not anywhere near as loaded a word as Nazi. Just because you're sensitive about the word fag, doesn't mean everybody else is.
ultraforge 3 years ago
"I'm pretty sure a "hate word" (as in the emotion) carries "appeal to emotion""
It's not a hate word. It's a watered down word, especially on the internet.
"No fags never committed mass murder, they where part of the murdered."
Right. THANKS FOR FINALLY ADMITTING THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS YOU FAGGOT. Nazi is a much more loaded word than fag because of the VERY DIFFERENCE YOU MENTIONED.
Godwin's Law says you lost the argument a long time ago, btw.
ultraforge 3 years ago
Who in the hell would get married to you?
Ddosfan 3 years ago
also, to you furries, the reason people hate people like you is because 90% if the furries we meet make ridiculous accusations, or are extreme elitists. that's why.
Bittel 3 years ago
hi, i think you are awesome.
I personally know a furry in real life, and he doesn't know I know. he has high grades, but has no friends. However, it is his own fault.
He tries to tell our calculus teacher how to teach math, tells us how he can build a computer better than a $4000 AW computer, and also rants about his test grades, when he guesses the wrong answer. He is also an elitist, and the best part is he showed me a furry drawing, and asked if it was good, not knowing i knew what it was.
Bittel 3 years ago
I am a furry, but it does disturb me that some furries take insults way too seriously. However, consider furry-haters some of whom truly think furries should all be killed for their beliefs. And as for your flagging of "Nazi comparisons", that is infringing upon the free speech rights of the people posting those comments.
topheavykoolaid 3 years ago
What the fuck I don't get it, Why are people who are throwing around "Fag" even care about trivializing the real holocaust? That blows my furry little mind.
That and to any furry reading this, grow up, stop whining and maybe we can get some god damn respect. This too blows my furry mind.
Also..... Dicks.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"Why are people who are throwing around "Fag" even care about trivializing the real holocaust?"
"Fag" is the all time most watered-down word on the internet. It doesn't even have to mean homosexual anymore. Hell, it isn't even an insult in many cases.
ultraforge 3 years ago
So fag has been trivialized and you don't care, then why care about the word Nazi being trivialized? It makes the Jewish plight seem trivialized too? But trivializing a word that was used as the forefront of hate against gays trivializes their plight too. Guess who was next to the Jews in the oven in concentration camps? Gays! Either fag and Nazi or both off limits are they both are okay to throw around. Me? I I'll call someone a fag and a Nazi. You Nazifagniggerkykewop.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"So fag has been trivialized and you don't care, then why care about the word Nazi being trivialized?"
I already told you why. You are simply desperately looking for a way to breach Godwin's Law safely. Here's the thing, you furries aren't a race. Neither are you a sexual orientation. Nor a religion. And "fag" has lost its meaning completely, even to the point where gays call each other that.
Anyway, go look up something on Wikipedia called Godwin's Law, faggot.
ultraforge 3 years ago
If Nazi is used like you say you don't want it to be, it will become just a trivial as fag.
You're mad about one and NOT mad about the other. A double standard, A.K.A. Hypocrisy.
Furries being a race/religion/orientation is complete off topic.
You support the emofag HOLOCAUST
See why I call you a hypocrite here? you are.
Also this has NOTHING to do with godwin's law. I'm calling you hypocrite and you're defending yourself. Stop bringing up things that don't pertain to this discussion.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"You're mad about one and NOT mad about the other. A double standard, A.K.A. Hypocrisy."
I'm critical of one and not the other because they are two different words with two different meanings. Calling someone a Nazi is far more loaded than calling someone a fag, moron.
"Furries being a race/religion/orientation is complete off topic."
No, it's EXACTLY on topic. Even YouTube ToS agrees with me on that. (cont.)
ultraforge 3 years ago
"You support the emofag HOLOCAUST"
And? Emos CHOSE to be emos. Therefore, they should be held accountable for their own actions.
"Also this has NOTHING to do with godwin's law."
o rly? you obviously haven't reasearched Godwin's Law yet, faggot. Godwin's Law states among other things, that calling someone a Nazi is connected to a logical fallacy known as "appeal to emotion". Calling someone a "fag" is not connected to that fallacy because Nazis and fags ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS
ultraforge 3 years ago
You're trivializing the holocaust.
Seeing as how the nazis are so bad for I don't know, doing the holocaust?
So we can't call you a nazi, but you support nazi actions?
Just because the word nazi is mentioned doesn't mean this has anything to do with Godwin's law. The fact of someone losing a debate by calling someone a nazi is not the point being discussed.
You're trying to say it's okay to trivialize one word but not okay for another.
They are two things but they are relative.
TancerFang 3 years ago
"You're trivializing the holocaust."
No, that's what you're doing, retard.
"So we can't call you a nazi, but you support nazi actions?"
Ah, but I don't support Nazi actions, faggot. Calling someone a faggot isn't up to Nazi levels. Mass murdering them is. Now you're using the strawman argument fallacy.
But it's hilarious. You're now saying that name calling=mass murder. And all because you weren't smart enough to do a Wikipedia search for Godwin's Law.