Banking Deregulation was a Huge Factor in the Financial Meltdown of 2008. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 dropped the barriers that barred Commercial Banks from taking on the risks of Investment Banks. The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 allowed for the proliferation of derivatives markets. Derivatives formed an "avatar economy" (a system of illusory value built atop the real economy). When Debentures based on real estate turned out to be DogShit that caused a major Credit Crisis!
You dont have to be a college edumacated idiot to understand the OWS movement, but heres ur 1 sentence: Land hogs charge poor people 500 a month for a trailer space, and local governments enforce codes to prevent these same poor people from owning land and parking their trailer on it. Now can you see the injustice, or is another sentence needing explained. I myself havent owned land, or a home for 3 generations now, though i just rented a house for 2x what the original land hog paid for it.
1- I think the Movement is protesting against the very excess of liberty of the rich "1%" banks and multinationals owners vs. the restrictions of rights and liberties of the poor "99%" employees, workers or modern slaves.
2- I think the goal that the Occupy Movement wants to bring, if there is a common objective would be to bring a balance in this Rich vs. Poor economic system, something that would be fair for everyone, not only for the USA, but for the world.
I've seen one of your other videos and your attitude toward your fellow Americans is despicable. You did not merely express your opposing viewpoint but you also called the protesters some very demeaning and derogatory names. Yet when people RESPOND to that garbage you complain about such treatment. As an American you should realize how the process of free expression works best. We ALL need to tolerate the opposing viewpoint. We must most strongly defend those we most strongly disagree with.
"...When scandal in local and national government has become so commonplace that many begin to consider it a way of life, then I say that we as a nation are not far from the kind of moral decay that has brought on the fall of other nations and people.
The philosophy of something for nothing, the cult individual and government irresponsibility is an insidious cancer that will destroy us as a people unless we recognize it and root it out now."
Banking Deregulation was a Huge Factor in the Financial Meltdown of 2008. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 dropped the barriers that barred Commercial Banks from taking on the risks of Investment Banks. The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 allowed for the proliferation of derivatives markets. Derivatives formed an "avatar economy" (a system of illusory value built atop the real economy). When Debentures based on real estate turned out to be DogShit that caused a major Credit Crisis!
The occupiers are WHITE RACIST IMPERIALIST THIEVES: En masse they took over areas (public squares, parks) already occupied by indigenous blacks (bums). They STOLE that land from the poor who LIVED there and took their resources (public restrooms). They even resorted to military force (the police) to drive away the poor blacks whenever they tried to retake territory! South Africa, anyone?
No doubt every occupier has been taught to HATE white racist imperialism. So how do they justify this?
Personally, I'm confused every time I hear someone claim that they're unsure of the movement's objectives. I would attribute this to sloppy journalism that has a tendency to use broad strokes and focus on superfluous (yet sensational) issues and/or an apathetic public that simply doesn't care, or feels entitled to information without research. Part of the problem is the possibility that the term "movement" might not be an adequate term for defining something with so much depth and detail.
Anyone, who's interested about the truth about the birth of OWS and the power structure behind the US uprising should listen to, "Truth of the plan for the New World order, recording made 1967 Myron c Fagan". After careful consideration and weeks of research revolving around the "Occupation", I've come to understand its fake. It is not a so called, "a grassroots" birther but is indeed an orchestrated "astroturf " movement. I challenge, all to type in the Myron C Fagon terms above & listen.
1. Protesting agaisnt the MONEY CHANGERS 2. Wake people up to the Knowlegde of where our money comes from, who controls it and how, (fractional reserve banking / Fedral Reserve)
@TrainingStream That isn't true. OW, is funded by the "Money Changers" the planners held (Don't know if they still do.) protest planning meetings in Deutsche Bank Manhattan. Which if you think about it, these people aren't paying for themselves to be there and they in no way represent the position of Ron Paul and other true conservatives. If you ask me, OW is simply an NWO media blitz to get attention off of other more important events. Their pawns!
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA Your proboly right. I have read that the Illuminati created a 3rd rouge party (Ron Paul) to make it easier to list the dissidence in the country. I have also read that people like Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell work for the elite. If you look at how disorganized OW is you really make me believe that what you say can be true. Whats with the user name?
@TrainingStream It's an epic name. But I agree with you regarding Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell, they have very high production values for the information they "report," not to mention the people who "expose" the sources from are often dead or in prison, leaving us with their interpretations of the "exposed" information. I have also read about Ron Paul being a trojan horse and it maybe true considering Alex Jones endorses him. OW doesn't need to be organize, they just need to make noise.
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA You know the link between The F.D.A, American Cancer Society, F.B.I and the Fedral Reserve? they got us by the balls. Most people here are so self absorbed they will not listen to anything political, its like they turn their brain off and other people are moving out of the country buying gold and silver. If they (the elite) get their way, 1 world government and 1 world money that they control through the I.M.F and world bank It will not matter where you go.
@TrainingStream I agree and I suspect they'll get their way eventually. Which is why I would suggest (If you haven'y already.) believe in Jesus Christ. He is the only answer to the satanic nwo. The Book of Revelation speaks of such a society, "world unification" (world peace.) with one monetary system, it also speaks of it's destruction.
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, I am very familar with the Book of Revelations. I have heard/read some different interpretation Rev. 13:16. Some people suggest that it speaks about the RFID chip.
You people are not realizing that it's the GOVERNMENT that is fucking us all over! Sure, Wall Street stacked a massive tower of cards with your money, but who would have suffered if they had just been vaporized during the meltdown? The banks. The government bailed the banks out, which completely neuters our semi-free market system here in America. Who bailed out GM and Chrysler? The government. With whose permission? The government's. The government only wants votes, that's why we're screwed.
@TheXerxes004 The fact is, the GOVERNMENT (who you keep blaming for everything) is nothing more than the shadow of Big Business cast across this country. The government has been totally subverted to serve the interests of a rich corporate elite. The goal of this corporate elite (a criminal class) is The Third-Worldization of America! It's part of their larger goal of The Third-Worldization of the great mass of humanity. Stop wasting your time hating the shadow, Look at the substance!
@TheXerxes004 I don't totaly buy that narrative. The Glass-Steagall act which was enactaed in 1938 was a government regulatoy firewall that kept the fire of Capitalism burning in a controled fashion. Corporations paid the politicians to remove it which in effect turned our banks into hedge funds. The bankers greed then began doing business in the sub prime mortgage world- a place they had no business being. The resulting expolsin wiped out $16 trillion in middle classs pension funds.
The OWS movement is protesting against the fact that the government has been effectively hijacked in order to put the interests of a few wealthy and powerful corporations ahead of the interests of the majority of the country, ex) subsidies to companies like exxon. The goal of the movement is to raise public awareness about this and hopefully to mobilize the only advantage the majority currently holds, namely their votes, to change the system and elect those who actually serve our interests.
What is the movement protesting against? SIMPLE: The movement is protesting the fact that the U.S. Government bailed out the banks for trillions of dollars, and then, the banks did NOTHING, but improve their balance sheets! People want accountability. They are holding the banks accountable! The Financial Meltdown in 2008 was responsible for tanking the economy across this entire country. The protesters are right, when they say: "The Banks got bailed out, we got sold out!" They're sick of it !!!
@CosmicFork Seems like it's the government to blame in this case. The government is the driving force behind all of this bullshit that's happening. They don't listen to the citizens, they spend our money on abortions and drugs for welfare participants, and they blow the rest on programs nobody cares about and that will ultimately lose us money (Solyndra). Occupy the Capital, not Wall Street.
@CosmicFork Why not protest the men who bailed them out and then did nothing to go after the banks when they pocked the money? Telling the thieves their meany-heads will not get anyone anywhere. I would also point out OW is clearly being used by someone or something, the "protest" and the "protesters," are pawns in a larger game.
@CosmicFork The purpose of TARP was in essence to strengthen the banks' balance sheets by removing toxic assets that were severely devalued and allow them to get back to business and free up the credit markets. We might agree that bailouts at all are negative, but in this case, I believe it was a necessary evil to prevent a complete economic disaster. Also, the "Financial Meltdown" is not a cause to an effect. The meltdown was started first and foremost by liberal housing policy... (cont).
@mbukow01 ...with the idea in mind that home ownership should be a right and not a PRIVILEGE. Many parties were to blame, but it should start with government, mainly of the liberal/progressive variety. Another point is that the OWS is not "simple." It's all over the place from people such as yourself who actually have fair arguments to make, to those advocating Socialism, Communism, Maoism, etc. That's the reason why people such as this channel's creator are using perception as reality.
@CosmicFork "Banks got bailed out" stupid people like you signed a Bank's adjustable mortgage. Nobody forced you to sign an "Adjustable Mortgage", only your own dumb-face did.
I have no sympathy for dumb people like you. I want you to die in order to make room for smart people.
@TechnologicalTyranny Oh, yes... just blame everything on the big bad federal government. It's so easy to do, and why try to understand what REALLY happened in the Financial Meltdown of 2008? The real truth is that LACK of Federal Regulation in the Financial Sector was a HUGE FACTOR in the Meltdown of 2008.
@CosmicFork dumbfuck, federal regulation is all around you, federal law regulates everything from the housing market down to taxes on each gallon of gas you purchase.
the financial sector is at the whim of regulation and they operate accordingly.
the U.S. Federal Government takes in over 2.5 TRILLION dollars a year (and they are in STILL in debt).....
you are sitting there in your little seat complaining about Wallstreet....please.....for the love of our Country, open your eyes.
It should be your responsibility to research the movement before passing judgement on it, a process known as putting your brain in gear before opening your mouth. If nothing else, it stops you sounding like a fool or worse, a shill.
@DaMuttzNutz True, but as he said, it's not very easy. At times it seems like there's communists, socialists, liberals, conservatives and capitalists out there in the same movement, all wanting different things and all acting in very different manners, from just being lawful protesters to a simple, pillaging mob.
@ottomoen Hmm, they have a website which states the aims pretty clearly. The aims of the movement here in the UK have been made clear by the news media, but then we don't have to suffer Bill O'Reilly and his ilk. :0)
@ottomoen Sounds like a good cross-section of society all worrying about where the global economy is heading. It takes thieving bankers to bring disparate groups together like this. Personally, I'd like to see the banks better regulated, and if possible, broken up into smaller entities. The current system ain't working. I get severely pissed off when I see directors of financial institutions taking multi-million bonuses a year after being bailed out by the taxpayers.
@DaMuttzNutz I think his point is more that the message should have been stated clearly from what he's seen and heard about it (i guess from the media). This movement has had more ambiguity than any I've heard about it in a long time, so I see what he means.
@RectumPunch Maybe he needs to look beyond the mass media for his information. Half of them are just the mouthpieces for corrupt corporatism anyway. At very least, steer clear of anything that Rupert Murdoch has had his slimy hands on.
@DaMuttzNutz fair point, but did you feel the same way about the MSM's treatment of the Tea Party? Not a law broken, yet they were branded as "racists... clinging to their 'guns and religion'".
@mbukow01 To be fair, I don't think of The Tea Party movement very much. The "Occupy" movement has spread throughout the world; Tea Party is just fringe US politics
@DaMuttzNutz I guess I can agree with you on that point, but don't discount the TP as being "fringe." Personally, I think it was a lot more successful in drumming up public awareness and they did this in a very peaceful manner.
This country has under gone a slow motion coup where corporations have wrested all power from the citizenry to the point that voting against the interests of corporations and banks like Goldman Sachs is impossible. We have no democracy. The media compounds the problem by keeping us uniformed. All we get is junk news- Casey Anthony, Charlie Sheen- Truth and important relevant information takes a back seat to ratings on all our major networks.We have an uninformed citizenry.
@aquarius10780 Wrestled? Republicans handed corporations the country. Its not that we dont have a democracy, we dont have capitalism. Corporate welfare , corporate monopolies, corporate tax free zones. The answers are simple, pull your money out of traditional banks. That will send the message.
who knows. also, it seems to me that just because you live in a city with a population of over 200,000 or in the burbs that it is automatically assumed that you know better.
hard to do in one sentence considering we live in a society where we have big economics, big politics, big military, big entertainment... someone is bound to find something the other doesnt know about or hasnt thought of. i believe the ows movement is a forum for all of those who realize that voting isn't enough, writing a letter to your congressman isnt enough, college doesnt guarantee a job, a job doesnt guarantee hapiness, who know they dont know everything but if we combine what we know...
Why ask the fox why he's digging under the chicken pen. They want to garner a little of the TEA Party movement gravitas, while blaming their nemesis, capitalism. In this way, they can direct a narrative about the mythical Republican monopoly on such malfeasance, while diverting attention from their marxist hero's abject failures and outright deceptions. As per the commie playbook, they're building a grassroots effort with seeds of plastic and phony promises of social justice.
Corporations own the government not the citizenry.We live in a state of plutocracy where the corporations or the"CorporateElite"will get their way in Washington at the expense of the rest of the nation in almost every political battle there is.This has created all the problems(as deverse and unrelated as they may seem)that the OccupyMovement is upset about
I think the solution would be anything that puts power back into the hands of the people, this requires a restoration of law in some cases.
1) The ending of republican created deregulation of banks and the stock market that led to banks credit rating agencies and investment firms scamming our nation in the greatest crime of the worlds history.
I dont need a sceond sentence because in one line I have completely embodied all hopes , aspirations and actions. Any questions?
@Superorchestra I tend to agree but I might add that it's NOT only Republicans that are deregulating at this point. Bill Clinton removed the Glass Steagall act and took corporate payoffs for the Democrats. He also passed NAFTA and took tax dollars from Welfare recipients (70% of which are children) in order to cut the Capital Gains Tax. All of a sudden the Democrats were even with the Republicans on fundraising. Deregulation is the Republican religion but there are some Democratic converts.
@aquarius10780 This is my area of true expertise. The removal of the Glass Steagall Act was in the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of (Nov 12 ) 1999. Written by 3 republicans , Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia). I know, you all like to point to our lame duck president who didn't fight it but after 100 million spent to impeach him for a BJ I think this president was out of fight.
@aquarius10780 To explain how bad they wanted Clinton ,Republicans only allotted 4 million dollars to the investigation of of the the deaths of 3500 Americans on 911. I want to promisse you that whether you have done something or not, for 100 million I will find something on you regardless of whether you have done something or not. Anyway, Gramm betrayed america with that act for the banking giant UBS who gave him 250,000 right off and later a job. But that wasn't all.
@aquarius10780 So next year Gramm introduces the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 that deregulates derivatives and begins what is caused the securitization food chain. PLease look up "Phil Gramm's UBS Problem" on google.Come from Canada, I know NAFTA, did very little but allow Americans to steal Canadian jobs. Overnight 100s of thousands of jobs moved from Canada to the US where they were offered tax free status, free land and impoverished workers without healthcare !
@Superorchestra WOW- Very Interesting info !!! I've come across those names in my own investigating but you explain it so well!!! I just feel in putting blame on Clinton for not fighting it, the lesson of the destructivness of deregulation gets the ear of conservatives. Would you agree he has some culpability here??
@aquarius10780 Clinton will tell you himself /watch?v=cs3Z2Z2WMJk It didn't matter what he thought or said, he was powerless and the final vote was veto proof.
@aquarius10780 Your claim democrats were equal in funding as a result of any bill created the bunch of treasonous republicans?! Oh please prove thatl. Certainly not the ones who created the greatest banking scam in history through Phil Gramm. Now Clinton was told that the banks had already violated Glass Steagall, which they had, and the republican congress was veto proof at this point. No republican was going to prosecute the banks that owned them.
The occupy wall street movement is a protest about the extremely lopsided allocation of resources and power in the US and the world. The goal of the movement is to increase awareness that a small percentage of the population has taken control of the US government and that if more of us vote and get involved we may be able to take some of that control back.
@cfield76 #1)A small percentage of the population has not taken control of the US government, The people with money still run everything.
#2) The allocation of resources and power is based on whether or not you have the money to buy the resources or the power A) The money raised in Presidential campaigning is raised to buy power
#3) Unless your put yourself in a position to have wealth or work to gain power nothing will change
In a nutshell: It's all about crony-capitalism and an auction driven government. For a good cure: institute campaign finance reform in the form of public campaign financing (so the politicians start working for the people again). Remove the legal status of corporation's as 'persons'. Bring back the draft. Nationalize banking, energy and health care.
1) what we are protesting against: the fact that all the major institutions of our society have been co-opted for the benefit of the 1% (the corporate elite) ... the institutions serve the interests of the 1% with no regard for, and at the expense of the interests of the 99%.
2) desired outcome: a democracy that serves and promotes the interests of the vast majority of citizens (the 99%), instead of one which only serves the corporate elite.
It is too harsh to generalize that all corporations are bad, in sense they are doing what they were design to do , to make as much profit as possible. The question is how much is enough? I would say it is beond enough when it starts to promote emotional distress to people by creating an unhealthy social environment. If a corporation profits by downsizing than it is wrong. In order to make 10 partners some millions richer, the corp fires 10 times more working people, I can´t agree with that.
The ideal outcome is unfortunately muddled. This movement isn't a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. This isn't a organized movement but rather a loosely linked public outcry of frustration. The ideal outcome from this protest would be to obviously raise awareness of the issue, and hopefully have it snowball to apply political pressure to have tighter regulations on banking and a removal of corporate money from politics. There is nothing more scared then a politician facing re-election.
"Ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations".
It's not a broad lashing out against consumerism, it's a protest against the mixing of corporate money in politics and the irresponsible practices of larger banking institutions.
For these park sleeping losers to call themselves "99%ers" is the biggest flat out lie that exists ! They are the 48% that don't pay one dime, in federal taxes and cost hard working responcible working people millions. They are mostly young trash that will never be worth the air they breathe. You have only to watch the vids. A blind man could see this.
@bigbluesparky I like that you cry about an allegedly dirty park, when wallstreet has cost hardworking americas billions. That's what they are fighting for, not for a free handout. They want to remove money from politics and increase bank regulations so something like this can never happen again. Your screaming about spilt milk, when a tidal wave just swept through
@SaltyMudkips I never mentioned a "dirty park" are you stupid?
2nd wall street didn't cause the massive long term unemployment the US is experiencing, Barak Obama did ! His "obama care" and anti small business policys, coupled with class warfare have shut the job market down.
3rdly, Barak Obama bailed the banks out ! after his partys policys like, the "affirmative action lending act" caused the mortgage lenders to go belly up from having to lend large sums of money to people on welfare..OK?
@bigbluesparky The occupy movement isnt only in your town. Next time you have a look, try looking beyond your prejudice at all the other people supporting the movement. I've seen lots of pictures and videos. Looks like a mixed bunch from where I'm sitting. Here's a picture from England for you. Just add the w's ....facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=138317302934649&set=o.213228565407529&type=3&theater
@godfathercwq LOL...So if YOUR against something for YOUR reasons it's not "predjudiced" I gather ?
The biggest problem the U.S. has is Barak Obama and the long term unemployment his "obama care" and anti small buisness, class warfare policys, are perpetuating.
Don't you have Issues that concern you in YOUR country ? From what I see you have many.. Worry about the muslims that are in the process of taking over your countrys. Your police are unarmed and impotent & you'll soon pay for it
Too lazy to check every page of comments, but from what I've seen so far not a single poster has followed your instructions. Way to represent Occupiers. Hahaha
and lastly, American society has matured from the past, irregardless of what the media "decides" to inform the public on. as i've said before, it's "misinformation" by those with great influence that can deceive and control people's ways of thinking. the fact is, these protestors represent "free" thinking and not "controlled". we don't have all the answers, but neither do the people in congress, wall street or the Obama Administration for that matter.
#1. protesting against the "people" who run our system and how they've exploited it and handed it over to global bankers. and these globalists do not care about me (or you).
#2. the overall outcome is removing the people who have messed things up badly and demanding more power in the hands of the people for their own survival. our dependency in general should no longer be determined by the 1%. this concept was insane from the start.
#7CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED.
#8 ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS.
@DialecticUnity re: #7 CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" - If regulations require experts from the industry, what will those experts do once they've left office? Should they go back to school? A better solution is to can regulation entirely and make civil lawsuits for fraud a more level playing field, so that a single person with an inexpensive lawyer can take on a big company with a dozen expensive lawyers.
#4 CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE.
#5 CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
#6 CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.
@DialecticUnity #4 the only way we could have a "fair" tax plan would be to eliminate all business, corporate, capital gains, and income taxes, etc, repeal the 16th, and establish a flat national sales tax. If we did that, everyone would pay a fair share, limited only by their consumption. So someone who "takes a lot out of the system" by purchasing a $20 million home will pay $2 million in taxes for that consumption.
I feel like I'm in the movie Terminator, but instead of robot cyborgs we have corporate cyborgs. They are legal entities with human rights and we are their slaves. They control our fate. wheather you are rich or poor you have to do the corporations bidding or else live on the fringes. It is a corporate world. Corporations have taken over the world and we have only just begun to realize it. Judgement day is coming.
Different people will give you different answers, even the leaders in Zuccotti would probably say that there is no absolute goal. The goal is to make people talk. If the subject of OWS can create more intelligent dialogue about politics in general from a populus that does not inform itself and is plagued by apathy, then I would contend that OWS has served a very important purpose.
(continued from before)... a simplification of a protest that defies your notion that a protest should have a clear goal. There are many things "wrong" in America and OWS has no clear goal because there is simply so much to talk about. Do you want to talk about how Trickle-Down Economics has historically not worked but is still pushed by most R's? Do you want to talk about Congress's 9%?
OWS has no absolute goal, it is amorphous and ever changing. It WANTS peoople to research and be informed.
Hi Matt (I assume your name is Matt), I want to say thanks for taking the time to let people voice their statements of the nature of OWS.
1) OWS at its simplest the lack of representation for the majority of Americans as it relates to economic policies. (The term 99% refers to the fact that 1% of Americans own 1% of the nation's wealth).
2) One key goal of OWS has been to remove the ability for Corporations to make donations for candidates.
Why: Because over years and decades, our system has become twisted and corrupt so that it may benefit only a special few at the expense of the vast majority.
Hope to achieve: A raising of awareness so that the American people may take note, band together, and move to reclaim our country and our financial freedom.
Summarize the OWS movement:. Stop corporate rule.
desired outcome: Return control of the people's representatives to the people.
These are simple summaries and have many individual strategies like get private money out of politics and don't starve government to the point it will not be able to fulfill its Constitutional requirements ("to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, etc.)
As to why you can't find the message on easy access media -easy access media is corporate owned.
OWS - a small group of elite bankers (nwo/rockefeller/cfr/goldman sachs etc) have taken control of the people through monetary usury and fabrication of wars. End the illegal private federal reserve (JFK executive order 11110 - US government notes), end fractional reserve banking in private hands (40 to 1 levered in 2008) and end derivatives (gambling with people money).
As per the constitution- money is to be coined by government, not private banking cartels ( a Ponzi sheme).
Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution. You know the one that starts off as WE THE PEOPLE, NOT WE THE RICH 1%..Why don't we stop meddling in other countries affairs i.e. "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION". Only to benefit the 1%..At the expense of how many lives of these wars, That we had no business sticking our noses into. Or the 7 trillion dollars of U.S. Americans citizens money. And now President wants to bail out the Euro economic problem. We need to stabilize our own Countries needs first.
Movements numbering into the tens of thousands will ALWAYS have a variety of opinions on what the goal is & what they are protesting & media is sure to bastardize and exploit this.
The world is sliding into the abyss and people are starting to see it.
They think things will change if they voice their concerns but sadly as history shows us power does what it wants.
So when things go bad they take to the streets, they have nothing else.
first sentence: Go to google and type Occupy Wall Street NY declaration. (its been around since late September for anyone who wants to know what the Movement is about)
second sentence: The Movement in short hopes to achieve political, economic, and judicial equality for all and some sort of actual democracy, representative or otherwise.
14. Unions need to go. They only encourage corperations to head overseas. We dont want that.
15. Get rid of the whole Republican vs Democrat party bs. Its stupid. Theyre just there to throw people off. Theyre all rats in congress regardless of what party you represent.
In a 'Free' market the banks that messed up should not have been bailed out with public money. It seems public money is too easily dipped into time and time again. Look at so called ecological disasters too. It's always the public purse that gets opened
Repost my previous message, to get idea across. I really want to Matt reply all of us with valid points instead of picking on the people that name call him. I hate asking, but thumbs this up so matt can read this. -_-
You must be fool to think we are trying to stop corporations completely. WE WANT TO LIMIT THEIR POWERS SO THEY WONT CONTROL AND BUY THE GOVERNMENT!! No ever said, STOP CORPORATIONS AND LETS GO BACK TO THE STONE AGE!! No! you guys have it all wrong. We need corporations. Problem is,Corporations nowadays have a 'huge' advantage against smaller businesses.Thats why theres no jobs because corporations and restaurants can only give us so much. We want BALANCE. Its all. THUMBS THIS UP SO PPL CAN SEE!
@cerealbox99 Then you need to elect politicians who won't make laws that benefit corporations. Politicians who believe in smaller, limited government. Until the bums in DC are thrown out, the laws won't change - nothing will.
@connecticutmommmy YES! You're correct. But my vote alone isnt much when the masses are voting mindlessly on something they dont understand. And ignorant fks like matt, aren't helping the cause by spreading the wrong message and the wrong idea. smh.
You know what, the whole voting systems needs a massive reform. I hate when idiots vote on something soo important and treat it like its some fkn popularity contest. No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us. We no better than a flock of sheep.
@cerealbox99 When only 30% of eligible voters vote, we have a problem. It starts in the schools and at homes. If we aren't aware of our history and the hard fought battle to earn the right to form our own government we wind up like we are now. Lazy whiners.
@cerealbox99 .""If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money,first by inflation and then by deflation,the banks and corporations that will grow up around them ,will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson
I am not part of the occupy movements, but I am an activist. I work on specific targeted campaigns that go after specific public interest issues where special interests stand in the way. However, this model of political action does not work when the system and media is corrupted so badly. I am grateful for the work of occupy and what they have done in shedding light on just how badly things have gotten in a broad way. They do something I cannot, and I do things they cannot.
This is pretty much a trap as the issues that occupy covers do not boil down to soundbytes, talking points, or slogans really. But, whatever I'll give it a shot.
1. The Occupy movement is not a protest, it is a movement that seeks to force a shift in public awareness to the real problems that effect a majority of the public. 2. Occupy has already succeeded in that we are all talking about them and their issues.
Look. We can both agree that the bailout was ridiculous, and yes. DC is the problem as well. It's a vicious cycle and both corporations and politicians are equally to blame. But what do you want the protestors to do? Do you want the entire movement to converge on DC? People are protesting both wall street and bought politicians where they live.
Also, I admit you were right that the black guy was not at an official tea-party rally - just merely an a guy with a gun being anti-obama at a rally.
@SaltyMudkips I have news for you, the "movement" has been taken over by the Soros lefties. Banging drums isn't doing anything but annoy the people who have to pay more in taxes to clean up after ows and pay police overtime. What do you see as the end result? You really think Obama is going to take our tax dollars - from people who never even went to college - and pay off your loans? They were hoping ows would be the equivalent of the tea party, but it never will be.
You're furious for the mere suggestion of a bailout for embattled students but you don't bat an eye that a massive bailout has already occurred for irrisponsible banking practices that crashed the housing market, as well as the banks themselves.
@SaltyMudkipsLike I said you have to get your news somewhere besides MSNBC. I am FURIOUS that the banks got bailouts. NO ONE should get a taxpayer bail out. Let the market work, government can't pick winners and losers, whether Solyndra, banks, auto manufacturers or homeowners/students who over borrowed.
Respond to this video... Just like public unions the bank bailout was a money laundering device for politicians. They got bailouts, donated money back to democrats and Obama. The problem is DC.
I don't support Obama. He promises alot, but doesn't deliver. I was merely pointing out the undesirables that sometimes occupy a movement, i.e in the teaparty.
I'm pretty sure the headline "Student's discuss their issues with America's political system" will not get as much traffic as "OWS is anti-semitic", based on the images of a single crazy black guy screaming about jews. A few individuals should not whitewash the whole movement, but unfortunately it seems they do.
@SaltyMudkips Actually the "Bail out our student loans" signs were the ones that got the attention of the hardworking taxpayers who have no interest in bailing YOU out.
@connecticutmommmy I find that ironic. By that logic, you should be absolutely furious that the hardworking taxpayer has already bailed out the banks. I'm a little confused, but shouldn't the government now own all those banks in real capitalism? Instead of them merely shrugging it off and going back to making record profits off the back of taxpayer money?
Have you ever been to a concert or public event and not had a few jackasses? Becuase anyone can join, literarily anyone can join, including people who don't actually give a shit for the message and just want free food, or to be part of something.
What i understand the OWS movement to about is "to stop corporate greed, crony capitalism, the bribing of our representatives, and gambling's of our banking system". The outcome " personally people would just like a little more regulation like when FDR was president, there was a gold standard, fair tax code, government programs that helped people, and corp./banks that were regulated". Though many people today see that as socialism even though that's how it was in the 50-70's. I hope this helps
whether you like it or not..every action has a reaction-there is a thing called chaos theory which applies to disorganized systems coming together and organizing in to higher complexities..maybe this movement may mean nothing to haves in comparison to the have'snot,..but remeber it could trigger a global revolution! poverty is not prejudice.! by the way you want to be succesful on your channeli'd suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself and just generalize on topics..
The ideal outcome is unfortunately muddled. This movement isn't a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. This isn't a organized movement but rather a loosely linked public outcry of frustration. The ideal outcome from this protest would be to obviously raise awareness of the issue, and hopefully have it snowball to apply political pressure to have tighter regulations on banking and a removal of corporate money from politics. There is nothing more scared then a politician facing re-election.
Occupy Wall Street was a cheaper place to camp out than the state park, but I have to thank them all for being there. It made me appreciate my success and opulence even more,,,, because I worked for it.
All you OWS are potential losers, and no job will be good enough for you unless its a VP or above. The odor from you camp was proof you were raised in a barn by wolves. Got Arrested, Great. Another reason you wont be able to get a job, you now have a criminal record. Get a life!!!!
These are some issues at hand! End Corporatism, End the Wallstreet gang, End the Federal reserve, End Fema, End Homeland Security, End Tsa, End Patriot act, End floridation, End Big government, End Haarp, End Wars, End IRS, End Chem trails, End Dept of Education,End false flags, End Military Industrial Complex, End Monsanto, End Fracking, End Nucular power plants, End Tar sands.
Now! what are you going to do with this information?
@StatenIslandPrepper Maybe you should look up what it means before you blatantly defend it! Corporatism is basically when big business uses the government to create a private membership and control the free market. Even in a Democracy they accomplish it by lobby money used to target the legislatures or committees that oversee writing the rules, laws, regulations, they can manipulate to keep competition out.
@53muse LOOK IT UP !! I am part of it... The up side has been working from the mail room to a VP. Yes it took 20 years but I made it. There were lobbyists since the inception of this country. There will always be the "main families" that control the world. I have often wondered why there were no 50ish people there. Or seniors. Fighting for change is a good thing. But the pen will always be mightier than the sword. We will never change corporate America only sway it. But fight on Young Jedi.
@StatenIslandPrepper You may think you are part of it, but you obviously do not know the whole picture, otherwise you would be fighting corporatism rather than defending it! Will you or your family be safe in the future, If the "main families" as you quoted succeed with there agenda? Further more Corporatism was not incepted into this country until the Federal reserve was enacted, and then was slowly implemented into being destroying Capitolism! WAKE UP!
there is a declaration of what we want and i say we because we are one and i support it 8)
vGxDuBsTePzZ 6 days ago
Banking Deregulation was a Huge Factor in the Financial Meltdown of 2008. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 dropped the barriers that barred Commercial Banks from taking on the risks of Investment Banks. The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 allowed for the proliferation of derivatives markets. Derivatives formed an "avatar economy" (a system of illusory value built atop the real economy). When Debentures based on real estate turned out to be DogShit that caused a major Credit Crisis!
CosmicFork 6 days ago 4
you the man. occupy doesnt even know the point of their movement. FUCK them
503deadbeat 1 week ago
You dont have to be a college edumacated idiot to understand the OWS movement, but heres ur 1 sentence: Land hogs charge poor people 500 a month for a trailer space, and local governments enforce codes to prevent these same poor people from owning land and parking their trailer on it. Now can you see the injustice, or is another sentence needing explained. I myself havent owned land, or a home for 3 generations now, though i just rented a house for 2x what the original land hog paid for it.
freewriterguy 2 weeks ago
1- I think the Movement is protesting against the very excess of liberty of the rich "1%" banks and multinationals owners vs. the restrictions of rights and liberties of the poor "99%" employees, workers or modern slaves.
2- I think the goal that the Occupy Movement wants to bring, if there is a common objective would be to bring a balance in this Rich vs. Poor economic system, something that would be fair for everyone, not only for the USA, but for the world.
Perhaps each one has its own goal
SuPRn0A 1 month ago 2
I've seen one of your other videos and your attitude toward your fellow Americans is despicable. You did not merely express your opposing viewpoint but you also called the protesters some very demeaning and derogatory names. Yet when people RESPOND to that garbage you complain about such treatment. As an American you should realize how the process of free expression works best. We ALL need to tolerate the opposing viewpoint. We must most strongly defend those we most strongly disagree with.
Sellyfy 2 months ago
The Patriots Act and FEMA is right out of 1933. Be careful of doing away with your justice system America.
godfathercwq 2 months ago
"...When scandal in local and national government has become so commonplace that many begin to consider it a way of life, then I say that we as a nation are not far from the kind of moral decay that has brought on the fall of other nations and people.
The philosophy of something for nothing, the cult individual and government irresponsibility is an insidious cancer that will destroy us as a people unless we recognize it and root it out now."
-Barry Goldwater 1964
ImpossibleVictoryUSA 2 months ago
Banking Deregulation was a Huge Factor in the Financial Meltdown of 2008. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 dropped the barriers that barred Commercial Banks from taking on the risks of Investment Banks. The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 allowed for the proliferation of derivatives markets. Derivatives formed an "avatar economy" (a system of illusory value built atop the real economy). When Debentures based on real estate turned out to be DogShit that caused a major Credit Crisis!
CosmicFork 2 months ago
The occupiers are WHITE RACIST IMPERIALIST THIEVES: En masse they took over areas (public squares, parks) already occupied by indigenous blacks (bums). They STOLE that land from the poor who LIVED there and took their resources (public restrooms). They even resorted to military force (the police) to drive away the poor blacks whenever they tried to retake territory! South Africa, anyone?
No doubt every occupier has been taught to HATE white racist imperialism. So how do they justify this?
frankenstyrene 2 months ago
Personally, I'm confused every time I hear someone claim that they're unsure of the movement's objectives. I would attribute this to sloppy journalism that has a tendency to use broad strokes and focus on superfluous (yet sensational) issues and/or an apathetic public that simply doesn't care, or feels entitled to information without research. Part of the problem is the possibility that the term "movement" might not be an adequate term for defining something with so much depth and detail.
DrTallTimber 2 months ago
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Anyone, who's interested about the truth about the birth of OWS and the power structure behind the US uprising should listen to, "Truth of the plan for the New World order, recording made 1967 Myron c Fagan". After careful consideration and weeks of research revolving around the "Occupation", I've come to understand its fake. It is not a so called, "a grassroots" birther but is indeed an orchestrated "astroturf " movement. I challenge, all to type in the Myron C Fagon terms above & listen.
chippprrr 2 months ago
1. Protesting agaisnt the MONEY CHANGERS 2. Wake people up to the Knowlegde of where our money comes from, who controls it and how, (fractional reserve banking / Fedral Reserve)
TrainingStream 2 months ago
@TrainingStream That isn't true. OW, is funded by the "Money Changers" the planners held (Don't know if they still do.) protest planning meetings in Deutsche Bank Manhattan. Which if you think about it, these people aren't paying for themselves to be there and they in no way represent the position of Ron Paul and other true conservatives. If you ask me, OW is simply an NWO media blitz to get attention off of other more important events. Their pawns!
ImpossibleVictoryUSA 2 months ago
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA Your proboly right. I have read that the Illuminati created a 3rd rouge party (Ron Paul) to make it easier to list the dissidence in the country. I have also read that people like Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell work for the elite. If you look at how disorganized OW is you really make me believe that what you say can be true. Whats with the user name?
TrainingStream 2 months ago
@TrainingStream It's an epic name. But I agree with you regarding Alex Jones and Jordan Maxwell, they have very high production values for the information they "report," not to mention the people who "expose" the sources from are often dead or in prison, leaving us with their interpretations of the "exposed" information. I have also read about Ron Paul being a trojan horse and it maybe true considering Alex Jones endorses him. OW doesn't need to be organize, they just need to make noise.
ImpossibleVictoryUSA 2 months ago
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA You know the link between The F.D.A, American Cancer Society, F.B.I and the Fedral Reserve? they got us by the balls. Most people here are so self absorbed they will not listen to anything political, its like they turn their brain off and other people are moving out of the country buying gold and silver. If they (the elite) get their way, 1 world government and 1 world money that they control through the I.M.F and world bank It will not matter where you go.
TrainingStream 2 months ago
@TrainingStream I agree and I suspect they'll get their way eventually. Which is why I would suggest (If you haven'y already.) believe in Jesus Christ. He is the only answer to the satanic nwo. The Book of Revelation speaks of such a society, "world unification" (world peace.) with one monetary system, it also speaks of it's destruction.
ImpossibleVictoryUSA 2 months ago
@ImpossibleVictoryUSA Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, I am very familar with the Book of Revelations. I have heard/read some different interpretation Rev. 13:16. Some people suggest that it speaks about the RFID chip.
TrainingStream 2 months ago
You people are not realizing that it's the GOVERNMENT that is fucking us all over! Sure, Wall Street stacked a massive tower of cards with your money, but who would have suffered if they had just been vaporized during the meltdown? The banks. The government bailed the banks out, which completely neuters our semi-free market system here in America. Who bailed out GM and Chrysler? The government. With whose permission? The government's. The government only wants votes, that's why we're screwed.
TheXerxes004 2 months ago
@TheXerxes004 The fact is, the GOVERNMENT (who you keep blaming for everything) is nothing more than the shadow of Big Business cast across this country. The government has been totally subverted to serve the interests of a rich corporate elite. The goal of this corporate elite (a criminal class) is The Third-Worldization of America! It's part of their larger goal of The Third-Worldization of the great mass of humanity. Stop wasting your time hating the shadow, Look at the substance!
CosmicFork 2 months ago
@TheXerxes004 I don't totaly buy that narrative. The Glass-Steagall act which was enactaed in 1938 was a government regulatoy firewall that kept the fire of Capitalism burning in a controled fashion. Corporations paid the politicians to remove it which in effect turned our banks into hedge funds. The bankers greed then began doing business in the sub prime mortgage world- a place they had no business being. The resulting expolsin wiped out $16 trillion in middle classs pension funds.
aquarius10780 2 months ago
@aquarius10780 Correction: Glass-Steagall- 1933, not 1938
aquarius10780 2 months ago
The OWS movement is protesting against the fact that the government has been effectively hijacked in order to put the interests of a few wealthy and powerful corporations ahead of the interests of the majority of the country, ex) subsidies to companies like exxon. The goal of the movement is to raise public awareness about this and hopefully to mobilize the only advantage the majority currently holds, namely their votes, to change the system and elect those who actually serve our interests.
the3m92 2 months ago
What is the movement protesting against? SIMPLE: The movement is protesting the fact that the U.S. Government bailed out the banks for trillions of dollars, and then, the banks did NOTHING, but improve their balance sheets! People want accountability. They are holding the banks accountable! The Financial Meltdown in 2008 was responsible for tanking the economy across this entire country. The protesters are right, when they say: "The Banks got bailed out, we got sold out!" They're sick of it !!!
CosmicFork 2 months ago 23
@CosmicFork How about you protest the government for GIVING the money...
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@CosmicFork Seems like it's the government to blame in this case. The government is the driving force behind all of this bullshit that's happening. They don't listen to the citizens, they spend our money on abortions and drugs for welfare participants, and they blow the rest on programs nobody cares about and that will ultimately lose us money (Solyndra). Occupy the Capital, not Wall Street.
TheXerxes004 2 months ago
@CosmicFork Why not protest the men who bailed them out and then did nothing to go after the banks when they pocked the money? Telling the thieves their meany-heads will not get anyone anywhere. I would also point out OW is clearly being used by someone or something, the "protest" and the "protesters," are pawns in a larger game.
ImpossibleVictoryUSA 2 months ago
@CosmicFork The purpose of TARP was in essence to strengthen the banks' balance sheets by removing toxic assets that were severely devalued and allow them to get back to business and free up the credit markets. We might agree that bailouts at all are negative, but in this case, I believe it was a necessary evil to prevent a complete economic disaster. Also, the "Financial Meltdown" is not a cause to an effect. The meltdown was started first and foremost by liberal housing policy... (cont).
mbukow01 2 months ago
@mbukow01 ...with the idea in mind that home ownership should be a right and not a PRIVILEGE. Many parties were to blame, but it should start with government, mainly of the liberal/progressive variety. Another point is that the OWS is not "simple." It's all over the place from people such as yourself who actually have fair arguments to make, to those advocating Socialism, Communism, Maoism, etc. That's the reason why people such as this channel's creator are using perception as reality.
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@CosmicFork Ok, great. The bailouts have NOTHING to do with Capitalism.
StonewallJackson26 2 weeks ago
@CosmicFork "Banks got bailed out" stupid people like you signed a Bank's adjustable mortgage. Nobody forced you to sign an "Adjustable Mortgage", only your own dumb-face did.
I have no sympathy for dumb people like you. I want you to die in order to make room for smart people.
TechnologicalTyranny 1 week ago
@TechnologicalTyranny either pay your debt or DIE like you were intended to.
Why the fuck did you sign onto an "Adjustable Rate Mortgage" in the first place?
TechnologicalTyranny 1 week ago
@CosmicFork you are so stupid you don't realize that the federal government is the reason why a housing bubble was created in the first place.
You are so dumb you don't realize a health care bubble (medicare, medicaid) is in the making.
why are you so dumb?
honestly, why are you so blind as to what is happening around you?
TechnologicalTyranny 1 week ago
@TechnologicalTyranny Oh, yes... just blame everything on the big bad federal government. It's so easy to do, and why try to understand what REALLY happened in the Financial Meltdown of 2008? The real truth is that LACK of Federal Regulation in the Financial Sector was a HUGE FACTOR in the Meltdown of 2008.
CosmicFork 6 days ago 4
@CosmicFork dumbfuck, federal regulation is all around you, federal law regulates everything from the housing market down to taxes on each gallon of gas you purchase.
the financial sector is at the whim of regulation and they operate accordingly.
the U.S. Federal Government takes in over 2.5 TRILLION dollars a year (and they are in STILL in debt).....
you are sitting there in your little seat complaining about Wallstreet....please.....for the love of our Country, open your eyes.
TechnologicalTyranny 5 days ago
@CosmicFork . "It's so easy to do, and why try to understand what REALLY happened in the Financial Meltdown of 2008?"
do a little research, and then explain to me why the housing market failed....
"fixed-rate" mortgages? what the fuck is that? why was that allowed?
because the "regulators", your precious Federal Government, allowed and encouraged it.
Don't be dumb. please do not be ignorant at this point in the game.
TechnologicalTyranny 5 days ago
It sucks that you have ben harassed and threatened. Keep on going, Matt, you are brilliant! The real 99% appreciate your videos.
jenipher2001 2 months ago
You sir may just be my hero.
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It should be your responsibility to research the movement before passing judgement on it, a process known as putting your brain in gear before opening your mouth. If nothing else, it stops you sounding like a fool or worse, a shill.
DaMuttzNutz 2 months ago
@DaMuttzNutz True, but as he said, it's not very easy. At times it seems like there's communists, socialists, liberals, conservatives and capitalists out there in the same movement, all wanting different things and all acting in very different manners, from just being lawful protesters to a simple, pillaging mob.
ottomoen 2 months ago
@ottomoen Hmm, they have a website which states the aims pretty clearly. The aims of the movement here in the UK have been made clear by the news media, but then we don't have to suffer Bill O'Reilly and his ilk. :0)
DaMuttzNutz 2 months ago
@ottomoen Sounds like a good cross-section of society all worrying about where the global economy is heading. It takes thieving bankers to bring disparate groups together like this. Personally, I'd like to see the banks better regulated, and if possible, broken up into smaller entities. The current system ain't working. I get severely pissed off when I see directors of financial institutions taking multi-million bonuses a year after being bailed out by the taxpayers.
DaMuttzNutz 2 months ago
@DaMuttzNutz I think his point is more that the message should have been stated clearly from what he's seen and heard about it (i guess from the media). This movement has had more ambiguity than any I've heard about it in a long time, so I see what he means.
RectumPunch 2 months ago
@RectumPunch Maybe he needs to look beyond the mass media for his information. Half of them are just the mouthpieces for corrupt corporatism anyway. At very least, steer clear of anything that Rupert Murdoch has had his slimy hands on.
DaMuttzNutz 2 months ago
@DaMuttzNutz fair point, but did you feel the same way about the MSM's treatment of the Tea Party? Not a law broken, yet they were branded as "racists... clinging to their 'guns and religion'".
mbukow01 2 months ago
@mbukow01 To be fair, I don't think of The Tea Party movement very much. The "Occupy" movement has spread throughout the world; Tea Party is just fringe US politics
DaMuttzNutz 2 months ago
@DaMuttzNutz I guess I can agree with you on that point, but don't discount the TP as being "fringe." Personally, I think it was a lot more successful in drumming up public awareness and they did this in a very peaceful manner.
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jjrants 2 months ago
This country has under gone a slow motion coup where corporations have wrested all power from the citizenry to the point that voting against the interests of corporations and banks like Goldman Sachs is impossible. We have no democracy. The media compounds the problem by keeping us uniformed. All we get is junk news- Casey Anthony, Charlie Sheen- Truth and important relevant information takes a back seat to ratings on all our major networks.We have an uninformed citizenry.
aquarius10780 3 months ago 23
@aquarius10780 Wrestled? Republicans handed corporations the country. Its not that we dont have a democracy, we dont have capitalism. Corporate welfare , corporate monopolies, corporate tax free zones. The answers are simple, pull your money out of traditional banks. That will send the message.
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@Superorchestra @aquarius10780 What's your take on CivilisedMoney?
godfathercwq 2 months ago
they are against crony capitalism, unfair trade deficits and low wages the overall lack of opportunity now compared to the 70's and 80's.
myfavmusicandstuff 3 months ago
who knows. also, it seems to me that just because you live in a city with a population of over 200,000 or in the burbs that it is automatically assumed that you know better.
werspansio 3 months ago
hard to do in one sentence considering we live in a society where we have big economics, big politics, big military, big entertainment... someone is bound to find something the other doesnt know about or hasnt thought of. i believe the ows movement is a forum for all of those who realize that voting isn't enough, writing a letter to your congressman isnt enough, college doesnt guarantee a job, a job doesnt guarantee hapiness, who know they dont know everything but if we combine what we know...
werspansio 3 months ago
Please, someone answer Matt. What can be accomplished by the movement? What are the goals and can the goals realistically be attained?
Please refrain from political polarity and focus on specific problems and solutions.
raclarkus 3 months ago
Why ask the fox why he's digging under the chicken pen. They want to garner a little of the TEA Party movement gravitas, while blaming their nemesis, capitalism. In this way, they can direct a narrative about the mythical Republican monopoly on such malfeasance, while diverting attention from their marxist hero's abject failures and outright deceptions. As per the commie playbook, they're building a grassroots effort with seeds of plastic and phony promises of social justice.
As you were.
dilligras 3 months ago
Corporations own the government not the citizenry.We live in a state of plutocracy where the corporations or the"CorporateElite"will get their way in Washington at the expense of the rest of the nation in almost every political battle there is.This has created all the problems(as deverse and unrelated as they may seem)that the OccupyMovement is upset about
I think the solution would be anything that puts power back into the hands of the people, this requires a restoration of law in some cases.
aquarius10780 3 months ago
1) The ending of republican created deregulation of banks and the stock market that led to banks credit rating agencies and investment firms scamming our nation in the greatest crime of the worlds history.
I dont need a sceond sentence because in one line I have completely embodied all hopes , aspirations and actions. Any questions?
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@Superorchestra I tend to agree but I might add that it's NOT only Republicans that are deregulating at this point. Bill Clinton removed the Glass Steagall act and took corporate payoffs for the Democrats. He also passed NAFTA and took tax dollars from Welfare recipients (70% of which are children) in order to cut the Capital Gains Tax. All of a sudden the Democrats were even with the Republicans on fundraising. Deregulation is the Republican religion but there are some Democratic converts.
aquarius10780 3 months ago
@aquarius10780 This is my area of true expertise. The removal of the Glass Steagall Act was in the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of (Nov 12 ) 1999. Written by 3 republicans , Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia). I know, you all like to point to our lame duck president who didn't fight it but after 100 million spent to impeach him for a BJ I think this president was out of fight.
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@aquarius10780 To explain how bad they wanted Clinton ,Republicans only allotted 4 million dollars to the investigation of of the the deaths of 3500 Americans on 911. I want to promisse you that whether you have done something or not, for 100 million I will find something on you regardless of whether you have done something or not. Anyway, Gramm betrayed america with that act for the banking giant UBS who gave him 250,000 right off and later a job. But that wasn't all.
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@aquarius10780 So next year Gramm introduces the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 that deregulates derivatives and begins what is caused the securitization food chain. PLease look up "Phil Gramm's UBS Problem" on google.Come from Canada, I know NAFTA, did very little but allow Americans to steal Canadian jobs. Overnight 100s of thousands of jobs moved from Canada to the US where they were offered tax free status, free land and impoverished workers without healthcare !
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@Superorchestra WOW- Very Interesting info !!! I've come across those names in my own investigating but you explain it so well!!! I just feel in putting blame on Clinton for not fighting it, the lesson of the destructivness of deregulation gets the ear of conservatives. Would you agree he has some culpability here??
aquarius10780 3 months ago
@aquarius10780 Clinton will tell you himself /watch?v=cs3Z2Z2WMJk It didn't matter what he thought or said, he was powerless and the final vote was veto proof.
Superorchestra 3 months ago
@aquarius10780 Your claim democrats were equal in funding as a result of any bill created the bunch of treasonous republicans?! Oh please prove thatl. Certainly not the ones who created the greatest banking scam in history through Phil Gramm. Now Clinton was told that the banks had already violated Glass Steagall, which they had, and the republican congress was veto proof at this point. No republican was going to prosecute the banks that owned them.
Superorchestra 3 months ago
The occupy wall street movement is a protest about the extremely lopsided allocation of resources and power in the US and the world. The goal of the movement is to increase awareness that a small percentage of the population has taken control of the US government and that if more of us vote and get involved we may be able to take some of that control back.
cfield76 3 months ago
@cfield76 #1)A small percentage of the population has not taken control of the US government, The people with money still run everything.
#2) The allocation of resources and power is based on whether or not you have the money to buy the resources or the power A) The money raised in Presidential campaigning is raised to buy power
#3) Unless your put yourself in a position to have wealth or work to gain power nothing will change
I've asked with no answer, What was accomplished?
30Tomina 3 months ago
Hey Matt, when can we expect your next video? Im really curious on what youre going to say next.
cerealbox99 3 months ago
@cerealbox99 Next one coming soon!!
mattwillwork 3 months ago
@mattwillwork And enough with the "get a job" argument. I hope I dont see that in your next video.
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cerealbox99 3 months ago
In a nutshell: It's all about crony-capitalism and an auction driven government. For a good cure: institute campaign finance reform in the form of public campaign financing (so the politicians start working for the people again). Remove the legal status of corporation's as 'persons'. Bring back the draft. Nationalize banking, energy and health care.
balboa306 3 months ago
1) what we are protesting against: the fact that all the major institutions of our society have been co-opted for the benefit of the 1% (the corporate elite) ... the institutions serve the interests of the 1% with no regard for, and at the expense of the interests of the 99%.
2) desired outcome: a democracy that serves and promotes the interests of the vast majority of citizens (the 99%), instead of one which only serves the corporate elite.
treblekicker 3 months ago
None of these answer either of his 2 questions. Most of the answers are different as well.....?
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truthtify321 3 months ago
A one sentence explanation is far too short, and attempts to reduce a serious topic to a short soundbite that can be attacked for being too shallow.
WillStewart1a 3 months ago
It is too harsh to generalize that all corporations are bad, in sense they are doing what they were design to do , to make as much profit as possible. The question is how much is enough? I would say it is beond enough when it starts to promote emotional distress to people by creating an unhealthy social environment. If a corporation profits by downsizing than it is wrong. In order to make 10 partners some millions richer, the corp fires 10 times more working people, I can´t agree with that.
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Guy posts a video berating the OWS movement and says "Here's how it really is, with these self righteous, morally indignant hypocrites"
He really seems to think he knows what he's talking about.
Then, in the next video.
"Umm It shouldn't really be my responsibility to go out and research the movement"
Dullards like this are why America is failing
johnlanzer2 3 months ago
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The ideal outcome is unfortunately muddled. This movement isn't a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. This isn't a organized movement but rather a loosely linked public outcry of frustration. The ideal outcome from this protest would be to obviously raise awareness of the issue, and hopefully have it snowball to apply political pressure to have tighter regulations on banking and a removal of corporate money from politics. There is nothing more scared then a politician facing re-election.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
From OWS website
"Ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations".
It's not a broad lashing out against consumerism, it's a protest against the mixing of corporate money in politics and the irresponsible practices of larger banking institutions.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
For these park sleeping losers to call themselves "99%ers" is the biggest flat out lie that exists ! They are the 48% that don't pay one dime, in federal taxes and cost hard working responcible working people millions. They are mostly young trash that will never be worth the air they breathe. You have only to watch the vids. A blind man could see this.
Reality for a new begining.
bigbluesparky 3 months ago
@bigbluesparky I like that you cry about an allegedly dirty park, when wallstreet has cost hardworking americas billions. That's what they are fighting for, not for a free handout. They want to remove money from politics and increase bank regulations so something like this can never happen again. Your screaming about spilt milk, when a tidal wave just swept through
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
@SaltyMudkips I never mentioned a "dirty park" are you stupid?
2nd wall street didn't cause the massive long term unemployment the US is experiencing, Barak Obama did ! His "obama care" and anti small business policys, coupled with class warfare have shut the job market down.
3rdly, Barak Obama bailed the banks out ! after his partys policys like, the "affirmative action lending act" caused the mortgage lenders to go belly up from having to lend large sums of money to people on welfare..OK?
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53muse 3 months ago
@bigbluesparky The occupy movement isnt only in your town. Next time you have a look, try looking beyond your prejudice at all the other people supporting the movement. I've seen lots of pictures and videos. Looks like a mixed bunch from where I'm sitting. Here's a picture from England for you. Just add the w's ....facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=138317302934649&set=o.213228565407529&type=3&theater
godfathercwq 3 months ago
@godfathercwq LOL...So if YOUR against something for YOUR reasons it's not "predjudiced" I gather ?
The biggest problem the U.S. has is Barak Obama and the long term unemployment his "obama care" and anti small buisness, class warfare policys, are perpetuating.
Don't you have Issues that concern you in YOUR country ? From what I see you have many.. Worry about the muslims that are in the process of taking over your countrys. Your police are unarmed and impotent & you'll soon pay for it
bigbluesparky 3 months ago
Bro your spot on...FUCK these hipsters
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Too lazy to check every page of comments, but from what I've seen so far not a single poster has followed your instructions. Way to represent Occupiers. Hahaha
p2rider3426 3 months ago
@p2rider3426 FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS? That's a good sheeple!
53muse 3 months ago
and lastly, American society has matured from the past, irregardless of what the media "decides" to inform the public on. as i've said before, it's "misinformation" by those with great influence that can deceive and control people's ways of thinking. the fact is, these protestors represent "free" thinking and not "controlled". we don't have all the answers, but neither do the people in congress, wall street or the Obama Administration for that matter.
we need ideas for the next decade coming.
SupremeNamvel 3 months ago
#1. protesting against the "people" who run our system and how they've exploited it and handed it over to global bankers. and these globalists do not care about me (or you).
#2. the overall outcome is removing the people who have messed things up badly and demanding more power in the hands of the people for their own survival. our dependency in general should no longer be determined by the 1%. this concept was insane from the start.
now, i'd like to hear your explanation too.
SupremeNamvel 3 months ago
#7CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED.
#8 ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS.
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@DialecticUnity re: #7 CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" - If regulations require experts from the industry, what will those experts do once they've left office? Should they go back to school? A better solution is to can regulation entirely and make civil lawsuits for fraud a more level playing field, so that a single person with an inexpensive lawyer can take on a big company with a dozen expensive lawyers.
kote2 3 months ago
#4 CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE.
#5 CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
#6 CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.
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@DialecticUnity #4 the only way we could have a "fair" tax plan would be to eliminate all business, corporate, capital gains, and income taxes, etc, repeal the 16th, and establish a flat national sales tax. If we did that, everyone would pay a fair share, limited only by their consumption. So someone who "takes a lot out of the system" by purchasing a $20 million home will pay $2 million in taxes for that consumption.
kote2 3 months ago
I can't seem to post a link to the page so I will just list their propositions without their explanation.
#1 CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT.
#2 USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS
#3 CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION
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Just testing to see if I can post stuff. I am getting error messages otherwise ...
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I feel like I'm in the movie Terminator, but instead of robot cyborgs we have corporate cyborgs. They are legal entities with human rights and we are their slaves. They control our fate. wheather you are rich or poor you have to do the corporations bidding or else live on the fringes. It is a corporate world. Corporations have taken over the world and we have only just begun to realize it. Judgement day is coming.
zaxs90 3 months ago
Hey whut do u do for work? U own somthing big? Do tell do tell??
3000benjamin 3 months ago
Different people will give you different answers, even the leaders in Zuccotti would probably say that there is no absolute goal. The goal is to make people talk. If the subject of OWS can create more intelligent dialogue about politics in general from a populus that does not inform itself and is plagued by apathy, then I would contend that OWS has served a very important purpose.
johnnyhala 3 months ago
(continued from before)... a simplification of a protest that defies your notion that a protest should have a clear goal. There are many things "wrong" in America and OWS has no clear goal because there is simply so much to talk about. Do you want to talk about how Trickle-Down Economics has historically not worked but is still pushed by most R's? Do you want to talk about Congress's 9%?
OWS has no absolute goal, it is amorphous and ever changing. It WANTS peoople to research and be informed.
johnnyhala 3 months ago
Hi Matt (I assume your name is Matt), I want to say thanks for taking the time to let people voice their statements of the nature of OWS.
1) OWS at its simplest the lack of representation for the majority of Americans as it relates to economic policies. (The term 99% refers to the fact that 1% of Americans own 1% of the nation's wealth).
2) One key goal of OWS has been to remove the ability for Corporations to make donations for candidates.
This is all however a simplification (continued)
johnnyhala 3 months ago
Why: Because over years and decades, our system has become twisted and corrupt so that it may benefit only a special few at the expense of the vast majority.
Hope to achieve: A raising of awareness so that the American people may take note, band together, and move to reclaim our country and our financial freedom.
DaMiteeSaskwach 3 months ago
@DaMiteeSaskwach i have question, you speak of financial freedom, can you be specific as to what you want to be free from?
monkygro 3 months ago
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@DaMiteeSaskwach i have a question, you speak of financial freedom, can you be specific as to what you want to be free from?
monkygro 3 months ago
Summarize the OWS movement:. Stop corporate rule.
desired outcome: Return control of the people's representatives to the people.
These are simple summaries and have many individual strategies like get private money out of politics and don't starve government to the point it will not be able to fulfill its Constitutional requirements ("to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, etc.)
As to why you can't find the message on easy access media -easy access media is corporate owned.
nickgdigesu 3 months ago
OWS - a small group of elite bankers (nwo/rockefeller/cfr/goldman sachs etc) have taken control of the people through monetary usury and fabrication of wars. End the illegal private federal reserve (JFK executive order 11110 - US government notes), end fractional reserve banking in private hands (40 to 1 levered in 2008) and end derivatives (gambling with people money).
As per the constitution- money is to be coined by government, not private banking cartels ( a Ponzi sheme).
johnh173 3 months ago
Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution. You know the one that starts off as WE THE PEOPLE, NOT WE THE RICH 1%..Why don't we stop meddling in other countries affairs i.e. "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION". Only to benefit the 1%..At the expense of how many lives of these wars, That we had no business sticking our noses into. Or the 7 trillion dollars of U.S. Americans citizens money. And now President wants to bail out the Euro economic problem. We need to stabilize our own Countries needs first.
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CrazyWolf42oh 3 months ago
Movements numbering into the tens of thousands will ALWAYS have a variety of opinions on what the goal is & what they are protesting & media is sure to bastardize and exploit this.
The world is sliding into the abyss and people are starting to see it.
They think things will change if they voice their concerns but sadly as history shows us power does what it wants.
So when things go bad they take to the streets, they have nothing else.
Voting changes nothing
The revolution has begun.
clusterification1 3 months ago
... you shouldn't have to read to find out?
therevepigee 3 months ago
first sentence: Go to google and type Occupy Wall Street NY declaration. (its been around since late September for anyone who wants to know what the Movement is about)
second sentence: The Movement in short hopes to achieve political, economic, and judicial equality for all and some sort of actual democracy, representative or otherwise.
bubridge 3 months ago
lol, no one cares if you know noob.
PirateHugger 3 months ago
I hate youtubes 500 letter limit. -_-
cerealbox99 3 months ago
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cerealbox99 3 months ago
1. Government subsidies for Walmart, Fast food, Meat industries and other big corporations need to go. Its not fair for smaller businesses.
2. Tax ALL goods from China. Encourage production inside the USA. Its sad when your American flag is also made in China.
3. Get rid of silly rules like Marijuana Prohibition. Causes more harm than good.
4. GIVE THOSE FKN CONGRESS POLITICIANS TERM LIMITS!! geez. They obviously arent doing their job right! Fire them!
cerealbox99 3 months ago
5.Make gold the new standard again. WORLDWIDE. Gives the government less spending power.
6. Stop Printing out money that doesnt exist. Main reason why inflation is screwing us over and why we are in debt. cough*Banks*cough
7. Eliminate the bush tax cuts. Start taxing the 1% again like they should. They wouldnt be rich if it wasnt for us, the 99%.
8. Make Lobbying illegal !!!!!!!!!!!!!
cerealbox99 3 months ago
9. Bring back our troops. Theres no real reason why we over there anymore.
10. Stop trying to be the police of the world and fix our probelms here at home first.
11. Eliminate ALL privately owned prisons! Do you guys not see anything wrong with that?
12. Expose the pharmectical industry and all their corruption.
cerealbox99 3 months ago
13. Fix the college bubble.
14. Unions need to go. They only encourage corperations to head overseas. We dont want that.
15. Get rid of the whole Republican vs Democrat party bs. Its stupid. Theyre just there to throw people off. Theyre all rats in congress regardless of what party you represent.
cerealbox99 3 months ago
16. Limit political donations from corperations. Gives them too much power and an advantage over the people.
17. Lift the ban (or increase the cap) where individuals are limited on how much they can donate.
18. No more bailouts!!!!
These are just some of the few issues and corruption going on that I can think of. Feel free to challenge any of my statements.
cerealbox99 3 months ago
In a 'Free' market the banks that messed up should not have been bailed out with public money. It seems public money is too easily dipped into time and time again. Look at so called ecological disasters too. It's always the public purse that gets opened
godfathercwq 3 months ago
Repost my previous message, to get idea across. I really want to Matt reply all of us with valid points instead of picking on the people that name call him. I hate asking, but thumbs this up so matt can read this. -_-
cerealbox99 3 months ago
You must be fool to think we are trying to stop corporations completely. WE WANT TO LIMIT THEIR POWERS SO THEY WONT CONTROL AND BUY THE GOVERNMENT!! No ever said, STOP CORPORATIONS AND LETS GO BACK TO THE STONE AGE!! No! you guys have it all wrong. We need corporations. Problem is,Corporations nowadays have a 'huge' advantage against smaller businesses.Thats why theres no jobs because corporations and restaurants can only give us so much. We want BALANCE. Its all. THUMBS THIS UP SO PPL CAN SEE!
cerealbox99 3 months ago
@cerealbox99 Then you need to elect politicians who won't make laws that benefit corporations. Politicians who believe in smaller, limited government. Until the bums in DC are thrown out, the laws won't change - nothing will.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
@connecticutmommmy YES! You're correct. But my vote alone isnt much when the masses are voting mindlessly on something they dont understand. And ignorant fks like matt, aren't helping the cause by spreading the wrong message and the wrong idea. smh.
You know what, the whole voting systems needs a massive reform. I hate when idiots vote on something soo important and treat it like its some fkn popularity contest. No wonder the rest of the world laughs at us. We no better than a flock of sheep.
cerealbox99 3 months ago
@cerealbox99 When only 30% of eligible voters vote, we have a problem. It starts in the schools and at homes. If we aren't aware of our history and the hard fought battle to earn the right to form our own government we wind up like we are now. Lazy whiners.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
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@cerealbox99 .""If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money,first by inflation and then by deflation,the banks and corporations that will grow up around them ,will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson
53muse 3 months ago
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cerealbox99 3 months ago
1. Protesting against the fear and a low level of vibration in human consciousness.
2. Desired outcome will be manifested throughout the love, forgiveness and end of human mutual exploitation.
otvoreniUM 3 months ago
@otvoreniUM LOL ! Insert twilight zone music...
bigbluesparky 3 months ago
@bigbluesparky Your mind is twighlight zone. Hear 4 yourself /watch?v=WBIX1lN8N18&feature=related
IF U don't understand that, don't worry. Just continue to experience other people's reality.
otvoreniUM 3 months ago
@otvoreniUM Borat ? Is that you comrade?
bigbluesparky 3 months ago
@bigbluesparky monkey see monkey do ... and make fun of the others, what else :D
otvoreniUM 3 months ago
I am not part of the occupy movements, but I am an activist. I work on specific targeted campaigns that go after specific public interest issues where special interests stand in the way. However, this model of political action does not work when the system and media is corrupted so badly. I am grateful for the work of occupy and what they have done in shedding light on just how badly things have gotten in a broad way. They do something I cannot, and I do things they cannot.
jeclairm 3 months ago
This is pretty much a trap as the issues that occupy covers do not boil down to soundbytes, talking points, or slogans really. But, whatever I'll give it a shot.
1. The Occupy movement is not a protest, it is a movement that seeks to force a shift in public awareness to the real problems that effect a majority of the public. 2. Occupy has already succeeded in that we are all talking about them and their issues.
jeclairm 3 months ago
Look. We can both agree that the bailout was ridiculous, and yes. DC is the problem as well. It's a vicious cycle and both corporations and politicians are equally to blame. But what do you want the protestors to do? Do you want the entire movement to converge on DC? People are protesting both wall street and bought politicians where they live.
Also, I admit you were right that the black guy was not at an official tea-party rally - just merely an a guy with a gun being anti-obama at a rally.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
@SaltyMudkips I have news for you, the "movement" has been taken over by the Soros lefties. Banging drums isn't doing anything but annoy the people who have to pay more in taxes to clean up after ows and pay police overtime. What do you see as the end result? You really think Obama is going to take our tax dollars - from people who never even went to college - and pay off your loans? They were hoping ows would be the equivalent of the tea party, but it never will be.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
You're furious for the mere suggestion of a bailout for embattled students but you don't bat an eye that a massive bailout has already occurred for irrisponsible banking practices that crashed the housing market, as well as the banks themselves.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
@SaltyMudkipsLike I said you have to get your news somewhere besides MSNBC. I am FURIOUS that the banks got bailouts. NO ONE should get a taxpayer bail out. Let the market work, government can't pick winners and losers, whether Solyndra, banks, auto manufacturers or homeowners/students who over borrowed.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
Respond to this video...Irresponsible banking practices put in place by our corrupt politicians.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
Respond to this video... Just like public unions the bank bailout was a money laundering device for politicians. They got bailouts, donated money back to democrats and Obama. The problem is DC.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
Not to say a majority of the movement, but a select section.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
I don't support Obama. He promises alot, but doesn't deliver. I was merely pointing out the undesirables that sometimes occupy a movement, i.e in the teaparty.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
@SaltyMudkips except neither even you described was a Teaparty .
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
I'm pretty sure the headline "Student's discuss their issues with America's political system" will not get as much traffic as "OWS is anti-semitic", based on the images of a single crazy black guy screaming about jews. A few individuals should not whitewash the whole movement, but unfortunately it seems they do.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
@SaltyMudkips Actually the "Bail out our student loans" signs were the ones that got the attention of the hardworking taxpayers who have no interest in bailing YOU out.
connecticutmommmy 3 months ago
@connecticutmommmy I find that ironic. By that logic, you should be absolutely furious that the hardworking taxpayer has already bailed out the banks. I'm a little confused, but shouldn't the government now own all those banks in real capitalism? Instead of them merely shrugging it off and going back to making record profits off the back of taxpayer money?
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
Have you ever been to a concert or public event and not had a few jackasses? Becuase anyone can join, literarily anyone can join, including people who don't actually give a shit for the message and just want free food, or to be part of something.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
What i understand the OWS movement to about is "to stop corporate greed, crony capitalism, the bribing of our representatives, and gambling's of our banking system". The outcome " personally people would just like a little more regulation like when FDR was president, there was a gold standard, fair tax code, government programs that helped people, and corp./banks that were regulated". Though many people today see that as socialism even though that's how it was in the 50-70's. I hope this helps
hartman1227 3 months ago
whether you like it or not..every action has a reaction-there is a thing called chaos theory which applies to disorganized systems coming together and organizing in to higher complexities..maybe this movement may mean nothing to haves in comparison to the have'snot,..but remeber it could trigger a global revolution! poverty is not prejudice.! by the way you want to be succesful on your channeli'd suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself and just generalize on topics..
babysuggar 3 months ago
The ideal outcome is unfortunately muddled. This movement isn't a scalpel, it's a sledgehammer. This isn't a organized movement but rather a loosely linked public outcry of frustration. The ideal outcome from this protest would be to obviously raise awareness of the issue, and hopefully have it snowball to apply political pressure to have tighter regulations on banking and a removal of corporate money from politics. There is nothing more scared then a politician facing re-election.
SaltyMudkips 3 months ago
Occupy Wall Street was a cheaper place to camp out than the state park, but I have to thank them all for being there. It made me appreciate my success and opulence even more,,,, because I worked for it.
All you OWS are potential losers, and no job will be good enough for you unless its a VP or above. The odor from you camp was proof you were raised in a barn by wolves. Got Arrested, Great. Another reason you wont be able to get a job, you now have a criminal record. Get a life!!!!
StatenIslandPrepper 3 months ago
"In a valid movement, the message and desired outcome would be implicit and also should able to be stated in a sentence or two."
It is my contention that most Occupiers would disagree with your belief.
Is it your own personal responsibility to be educated and informed, no one else's.
Wake up, get informed, and think for yourself.
How's that for a one-sentence desire of the movement speaking to all of the 99%?
m1n1111 3 months ago
@m1n1111 Thats more then one my friend...
Just sayin
iloveyewz 3 months ago
These are some issues at hand! End Corporatism, End the Wallstreet gang, End the Federal reserve, End Fema, End Homeland Security, End Tsa, End Patriot act, End floridation, End Big government, End Haarp, End Wars, End IRS, End Chem trails, End Dept of Education,End false flags, End Military Industrial Complex, End Monsanto, End Fracking, End Nucular power plants, End Tar sands.
Now! what are you going to do with this information?
53muse 3 months ago
@53muse if you ended corporatism you wouldn't be able to post here, it's run by a corporation, Why is it all losers want to ban success ?
StatenIslandPrepper 3 months ago
@StatenIslandPrepper Maybe you should look up what it means before you blatantly defend it! Corporatism is basically when big business uses the government to create a private membership and control the free market. Even in a Democracy they accomplish it by lobby money used to target the legislatures or committees that oversee writing the rules, laws, regulations, they can manipulate to keep competition out.
53muse 3 months ago
@53muse LOOK IT UP !! I am part of it... The up side has been working from the mail room to a VP. Yes it took 20 years but I made it. There were lobbyists since the inception of this country. There will always be the "main families" that control the world. I have often wondered why there were no 50ish people there. Or seniors. Fighting for change is a good thing. But the pen will always be mightier than the sword. We will never change corporate America only sway it. But fight on Young Jedi.
StatenIslandPrepper 3 months ago
@StatenIslandPrepper You may think you are part of it, but you obviously do not know the whole picture, otherwise you would be fighting corporatism rather than defending it! Will you or your family be safe in the future, If the "main families" as you quoted succeed with there agenda? Further more Corporatism was not incepted into this country until the Federal reserve was enacted, and then was slowly implemented into being destroying Capitolism! WAKE UP!
53muse 3 months ago