Why would you even think about posting a video like this in public? It's like posting a video driving a car doing 110mph on the highway with a bunch of girls in the back seat just because you can get away with it. Not to mention the bad image you present of general aviation. I'm glad most pilots are not like this.
that was a nice smooth roll. didnt hurt a thing anf the airplane isnt going to fall out of the sky. if you get all uptight about doing a roll in a plane you should not be allowed to ever ride or even an airplane. its not dangerous, it doesnt hurt a thing. go fly a rulebook.
Silly way of messing up your gyros Tex. Want to do aerobatics, get the proper equipment. Sure, it's a 1g maneuver - but just shows your a knucklehead.
so if i take a lesson in a cessna the instructer wouldnt let me do this. i pull them off perfectly in sims and any other video game. dont hate i just want to know if someone might let me if i tip um a lot extra
FFS all you commentators who weren't there who don't know who the pilot is nor the circumstances... an aileron roll as performed in this clip is not dangerous if performed correctly and this one looks like a copybook example. There are more self-righteous idiots on Youtube than perhaps anywhere else in the universe, and you lot are prime examples. And no I don't have any connection to this video nor the pilot.
@nojwod Youre speaking in Generalities. Yes a plane could. Howver, THAT Plane is not certificated for aerobatic flight. Doing so is outside its intended and designed performance envelope.
And? The rules are set up for the incompetents. When you have a pilot who knows what he's doing, an aileron/barrel roll is no different to level flight, it's a 1g manouevre. As demonstrated by the legendary Tex Johnson and Bob Hoover in particular. Like I said, Youtube, home of the self-righteous.
@nojwod How does one become 'competent'? I have many hours of acro training and flight in AC certified for it. I still wont try a 'do-able' maneuver in an AC that doesnt spell it out in the POH. BTW, there are a lot of fun maneuvers you can do legally in a 172, 182 and 210. Look'em up. Oh BTW, Tex had career issues after his Seattle stunt. And Bob (who Ive met) didnt use a production AC for his show, the shrike was cert'ed in the exhibition category.
You people just don't know what you're talking about. I got acrobatics lessons, and they ain't dangerous. Now, flying low and slow, THAT is dangerous cause you could (if not watching your airspeed) stall and it the planet real fast. Any kind of low flying is dangerous, you can hit a wire (that you will never see, most likely), or hit any kind of stuff. But a roll is NOT a dangerous manoeuver, whatever you can think. Any plane will do it harmlessly, if done properly.
@vbertrand So, you got a lesson....how good for you. What was the very first thing they taught you? Ill bet you either cant remember or it blew right over your head.
Not all planes can do aerobatics,.....even if done 'properly".
@92fsoakcreek : Well, since you seem to remember my own past better than I do, what can I add more? A roll is nothing more than a turn. The word "acrobatics" is way too over-employed. Flying inverted is more acrobatic than doing a roll, for example. The aircraft remains at 1G during a roll (flying inverted requires a inverted fuel and oil system). But Average Joe just won't believe it. You surely can roll ANY aircraft safely. If you people don't understand physics, just don't try arguing.
What a bunch of prudes. Most planes are suitable for mild aerobatics. Besides they were impressing chicks for future sex, and that's certainly worth dieing for.
Yeah, on another note...Bob Hoover you are not. this maneuver was illegal. If you feel its not, please bring this video to your interview with your next employer. I think even Bob Hoover is shaking his head at this one. Your stupidity brings negative public opinion on our profession. I have student pilots that cant believe you were dumb enough to try this.
Engine out during this maneuver??? Your done. You cant believe you could handle that emergency as if you were Bob Hoover, can you? Wow
WOW...with passengers no less. I see stupid pilots from time to time and I watch things like this and I just feel bad for the passengers. The passengers probably think this was fun. However, did the pilot inform them that this is highly illegal to do? Did he inform them that his bravado could quite possibly cost them their lives? That his ignorance and showing off could be the end of their life?
To us professionals out here who witnessed this idiot maneuver, this is the cause of criticism.
Nice. It wasn't a barrel roll though. It was an aileron roll. A perfectly safe maneuver if you know what you are doing and do it right. If done correctly, the passengers would probably never know that the airplane had completed a roll unless they were looking out the window.
@cmille23 Not to be rude but you got them mixed up, the barrel roll keeps a relatively constant positive G while the aileron roll will give you negative Gs when inverted.
@SgtRevan You are correct in that during the barrel roll, you are pulling positive Gs all the way around. However, during the aileron roll, you are also positive all the way around. Check out Bob Hoover doing an 8 point hesitation roll while pouring a glass of iced tea! Neither the barrel roll nor the aileron roll are used in competition. The roll that you are thinking of is the slow roll as used in competition. During the inverted part of the slow roll, you will experience one full negative G.
guys if he did it properly its a 1g maneuver totally safe totally harmless if done properly, its not the end of the world we all do it in 172's whats the harm... grow up
@k2500diesel No it isn't. This is a Cessna 340, which is certified in the "normal category", not utility or aerobatic. Therefore any kind of aerobatic maneuvers are contrary to the limitations published in the AFM. This would therefore be an illegal maneuver. Also, what do you think would happen if this 340 lost an engine during the barrel roll? Safe my ass.
Who gives a fuck... live a little people... Ive been flying a 172 for years and i cant break a thing on that plane.... cessnas arent made of wood U non violating pussies... I mean that with love :)
Cessna 550 DOWN 14.2.2010 in Czech Republic near Germany. The specialist found black box and figure out that the plane fall in the matter of prohibited maneuvre "barell roll". All passengers are dead.
Not many maneuvers are "dangerous" per se. HOWEVER, what IS dangerous is when you mess up the maneuver and the subsequent recovery. I teach aerobatics and you would be surprised how dangerous a roll can be. Much more dangerous than a loop. Why? You are already carrying a lot of airspeed, and any maneuver that gets botched with a lot of speed can be dangerous. You wouldn't believe how many students want to split-s a roll because they relax the ailerons inverted and the nose drops.
complete idiots pilots......i've violated plenty of these geniuses over the years and my advice is just dont do stuff like that.....with pax on board no less.....thats a few more violations added as well.
@beergut111 Actually Beergut, this would be a stupid thing for a tight ass pencil pusher like yourself to do, but for a pilot that possesses just a few very basic skills, a barrel roll is no more dangerous than a steep turn. (Come to think of it, you probably should refrain from those too Beergut)
@beergut111 I believe you are confusing FAA regs with the relative ease of doing this maneuver. With training and experience in an aerobatic airplane, this maneuver is low risk. I would say that stalls could be the same risk due to chance of getting in a spin but most pilots have no spin recovery experience.
@dtoften I believe you are confusing ignorance with stupidity... it dont matter if its easy or not. the airplane is not certified for aerobatic flight....period
none of you youtube aviation experts even know what classifies an aerobatic manuver..
@beergut111 You are simply stating that it is illegal to do in a normal category aircraft. I believe everyone understands that. What everyone else is saying is that this maneuver is fairly easy and low risk to certain pilots. You do not agree but each person has their judgement of risks that they like to do...such as a person speeding, for example. I'll leave it at that.
@Andromedust mate you have no idea! Most pilots that do these type of manouvers in non aerobatic certified aircraft are usually pilots with just a few very basic skills and just enough knowledge not to know better. You probably think you're the next Bob Hoover! Who was banned from flying in the US for stupidity. And now novices like you're self want to copy him. If you want to do barrel rolls in non approved aircraft go do it by you're self in the middle of the atlantic! no one will miss you.
@Andromedust you dont understand much about aviation. The plane is not certified for that type of flying. It has nothing to do with skill. A skillful pilot would do this in that airplane to begin with.
If you drop your shitty kid attitude I would be glad to answer your questions, otherwise dont waste my fucking time.
@beergut111 I'm sure I forgot more than you know about aviation and still know a lot more than you do. I agree though, a hack like yourself should never attempt to do anything outside the envelope. Also, thanks for your offer to answer questions for me, but unfortunately I have no questions for you as I doubt you are any bit the expert you assume to be.
@beergut111 What would the violations be? I know one would be the pax probably didn't have parachutes on and others?? Is illegal to roll a Cessna 340?
@hrtlnd22 operating the aircraft outside of its type certificate. A barrel roll is an aerobatic maneuver.Thats not allowed in this catergory of plane.....sorry.
this is how accidents happen right here.....usually by stupidity.
That is incorrect. You can fly a 340 at 3.8G's all the time. It has an aluminum spar which does not fatigue below its limit stress point. Above 3.6G it would start to fatige.
The limitation is because the factory never certified the manuever. It could be because of liability, didn't see the need, or because it is difficult to perform in this aircraft (i.e. its slippery, etc).
I'm not saying I'm going to roll a 340 but I'm saying it certainly can be done safely.
"No, you are wrong. 3.8G is the certified limit and the ultimate limit is 150% of that. But structural fatigue can happen well below that limit."
But when it does it is recognized as a design flaw and an AD is issued to correct it. In anycase, if properly done, this roll should have been 1.0 G's. Bob Hoover did one while pouring iced tea.
looks more like an aileron-roll than a barrel roll
for a barrel roll you pull the stick, make a 90 ° roll , pull it again, so long till you are vertical flight postion, 90° again, and pull, if you re good, the acceleration is only 1 g, and all the time positive
you just violated a regulation lol. No pilot shall conduct an aerobatic manoeuvers while carrying passengers in the air craft. lol i goto school for air craft mechanics
There is nothing in the FARs prohibiting aerobatics with passengers on board. Spelling "manoevers" the way you did suggests that it is possibly prohibited in Canada, but in the good ol' USofA, it's perfectly legit. It is still probably against the POH guidance, however.
The answer is yes. Look it up. It's either a 707 or 747. Whichever it is it still can do it. Only 1G is required to do this maneuver. And the man below is right any aircraft can do it. Just some aircraft require more altitude to fully complete the maneuver.
my below reply was to kc42280 about a 747 doing a barrel roll. not stating the video above is a 707 cause its obviously not. Most likely a Cessna 310.
Of course it's against aviation regulations and the POH. That said, this video does prove that this basic aerobatic manouever can be performed by any aircraft safely...but unless its approved you're a test pilot with no insurance.
And to clear things up on the aerobatics side:
This is not a barrel roll. A barrel roll has a lot more pitch change and G-forces from about 2.5G to 0.5G.
A competition roll is a roll around a point, and needs +/- 1G.
I love the comments! Personally I'm on the Pilot's side on this. Did the Wright Bros. need to have regs in place to know what is safe or not? There was nothing stressful in this. A spin would produce more rotational force than this, and the tip tanks won't fall off. Face it, mostly ignorant people are the ones making the laws!
I agree as aprofessional pilot , you are quite stupid. I would hate to be the next person to buy that plane. It seems like Mommy and Daddy probably bought that for you and you think its a cool toy.
There are two types of pilots,Old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.
Really? I dont know why youve got a bug up your ass about this, considering I never said anything offensive to you. A barrel roll is a perfectly safe maneuver. It is a 1g maneuver when done CORRECTLY. Tex Johnson rolling the Boeing 707 at 2000 feet is a great example of how safe this maneuver is. Considering this Cessna 340 is being flown by an ex-military pilot, Im pretty sure its safe. So unless youre going to calm down, stop talking just to hear yourself talk.
1. The PIC of this aircraft has violated not only the FARS but also the aircraft manufacturers limitations on that aircraft since it is clearly not approved for aerobatic flight(assuming 1G or not) Aerobatic flight is defined by pitch and bank angles not by numbers of G's.
2. Assuming the aircraft was approved for this , parachutes must be wore by all aboard to be legal.
It may be safe but totally illegal. Thats why we have aerobatic approved aircraft.
njplanes you should apply to the FAA. Mission Statement: "We're not happy till your not happy" Your just the buzz kill they look for in a valued employee.
All you morons can go to hell that are complaining this is illegal. The fun stuff is usually illegal anyways. These people had a good time and nobody was hurt. Have fun following the rules your whole life.
Thank god there is someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. Just because the regs say it is dangerous, is it? Who wears their mask above 410 or 350 on a charter...nobody...sue me bitch
ROTATIONAL LOADS!! unless those tips were empty, think about the 300lbs of fuel in them 15 or so feet from the axis. even at 90degs per second. thats some force mr. cessna did not put into the design of the 340. Im all for haven fun in planes but please think first! specialy with chicks in the back.
602.28 No person operating an aircraft with a passenger on board shall conduct an aerobatic manoeuvre unless the pilot-in-command of the aircraft has engaged in
(a) at least 10 hours dual flight instruction in the conducting of aerobatic manoeuvres or 20 hours conducting aerobatic manoeuvres; and
(b) at least one hour of conducting aerobatic manoeuvres in the preceding six months.
Guys... this is stright out of the book. The regulation numbers are right there and they are online too... you can do an aerobatic manoeuver in any plane you want. Christ, we were doing spiral dives in 172s during our flight training remember?? Of course you would only remeber that if you are actual pilots...
A spiral dive is not an aerobatic maneuver. Most training aircraft are certified for spins but rarely further than that. A Cessna 340 is most definitely not certified for aerobatics. That being said, the aircraft might (read MIGHT) be able to do the maneuver, but there is no guarantee that it will not cause structural damage or failure.
Come on man, if you want to do that get into a pitts or something. Yes, irresponsiblity at its finest, military pilot or not. As an MEI it kills me to watch that. Don't re-invent the wheel, bob hoover days are dead and gone now. Be responsible, especially with pax on board. If that were my student I'd report him/her, that would be my ticket on the frickn line! Remember, there are instructors and examiners watching this stuff.
Barrel rolls are illegal in a 152/172/ and this aircraft because they are utility/normal category. However, this is a good video! I'm not up for trying them in my 172 but it's cool to see someone else do them! And for anyone saying "i'll turn you in to the FAA"...get a life!.. You are probably one of those hillbillies who don't know what they're doing in the air.
The reason the rules exist, ist because it doesnt matter how good you are, a 172, or a 152, or a 340 is not designed to do this maneuver, therefore it is inherantly unsafe, and it gives the news media one more reason to attack general aviation. Its reckless, and indicates a lack of judgement. Its still a really cool video though, I must admit, and a well executed maneuver.
these flight academys produce all these know it all students, lets not forget at riddle the traffic pattern in a 172 is as large as that in a 747..........guess thats in the regs 2, idiots sorry if i offended anyone
a barrell roll in a plane, if done correctly does not put more than half a G,,,,and you keep it positive,,get light in the inverted half just a bit,,,it's not rocket surgery,,shit man
And of course, if you guys talking about the whole structural stress and damage thing know what youre talking about, A BARREL ROLL IS A ONE G MANEUVER. It wont stress the airframe if it is done properly.
Doesn't really matter what the regulations say... Common sense should prevail. How old is that 340? How many people before you have screwed around in it? Does it have inverted oil/fuel? Sure its fun, but is impressing a couple chicks worth screwing up a $500,000 dollar plane, or cracking the spar so the next guy who flies it can have the wing wrinkle and maybe fall off? Not really. I'm sure the girls were impressed though.
Aerobatics are legal if they are performed 1,500 AGL or above, 4 miles from any airway, and in class G airspace. However, I'm not sure if you can do aerobatics in an airplane that's not utility category? Maybe I'm wrong. In any case, a barrel roll is probably the least stressful maneuver involving inversion there is. Still, to do that with passengers in an airplane that's not designed for it could be considered irresponsible...
the airplane is NOT apprved for acrobatic maneuvers including spins. It is a normal and utility category airplane only. FAA defines acrobatic maneuver as anytime in the flight exceeding more than 60 degrees of bank and Or 30 degrees of pitch..US air force pilot or not, and parachutes or not, does not make it legal. Although Air Force pilots don't know what they're talking about anyways, so if anybody is going to lose their certificate, it should be a military person
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legal huh? i think going 80 on the highway is illegal too but im sure we all do it. in any case, you have no balls. flying is meant to be fun, not takeoff, cruise, land. maybe when you pull the cock out of your vagina youll know what im talking about. dick.
OK Barny... keep the bullet in yer pocket. 1+g all the way around, hardly qualifies as aerobatic... (pay no attention to the artificial horizon...or the real one they're wrong)
Obviously nothing here is illegal per se, it is only going against the recommendations of the aircraft manufacturer and FAA. The FARs are NOT law, they are only just that, regulations, as is the POH.
In other words The POH is recomandations which means you wont neccisaraly be in trouble for going against them, I.E. It will discribe how to lean the airplane. If you crash and you are found to be not following recomandations THEN you are in trouble... Pilot Error, They didn't crash in my book there safe
Thanks skypirate.Right out of the 340 manual page 2-6 under maneuvers limits it says and I quote"This is a normal category airplane.Aerobatic maneuvers,including spins,are prohibited".Rangerpilot get your facts right before you open your mouth.Like I said your clueless.
According to FAR § 23.3 a Normal Category aircraft (Cessna 340) is allowed to do maneuvers necessary for normal flight not including spins, but including maneuvers with bank angles not exceeding 60 degrees. FAR § 91.303 says...aerobatic flight means...not necessary for normal flight. Going upside down in non-aerobatic category aircraft = illegal.
Still sounds to me like it makes it illegal since it says in paragraph (a) of 23.3 that normal category aircraft are not intended for Aerobatic flight and (1) of (a) says that it can do steep turns, not exceeding 60 degrees of bank. My take on the FARs is that they are Regulatory in nature, so if it says that your aircraft is not intended for such-and-such, then I'm assuming that it makes it a rule.
That got you fired up.Check with the feds dude.But of course your to smart for that.If your here in San Diego I'll be glad to meet you at the fsdo.Good luck
Ranger pilot your clueless.Check with the FAA and ask them if it's legal.You might want to read a 340 manual and see if it's approved for aerobatic maneuvers like rolls.i can tell ya it's not.After you do that you can get back to me and I'll get you a number to a buddy of mine that's with the FAA and he can explain it.
Ok...you obviously think you have a divine knowledge of all things aeronautic.
14 CFR 91.303 Aerobatic Flight. Airspace, altitude, visibility, and spectator restrictions. Nothing about airplanes.
Reading through the Cessna 310 (smaller version of 340) manual, nothing from the first to last page banning aerobatic manuevers. So you may take your all-knowing shit and your "FAA buddy" and put them both back in your ass with your head where they belong.
Get your facts straight before you go trying to play regulation man. There's nothing that bans this plane from doing a barrel roll, or an aileron roll as this was. The airplane is perfectly capable, the pilot apparently thinks he is perfectly capable. Thousands of airplanes do rolls every day, some aerobatic airplanes, some normal airplanes. The forces the airplane experienced during that roll were nothing compared to what it would experience during heavy turbulence or student training.
You're an idiot. There are lots of things you can do, but that doesn't make it legal. You can accept money to fly someone somewhere, but that may not be legal. You can fly 50 feet off the ground, but it may not be legal. Thousands of people may be able to do this, but there's a few out there that will bite off more than they can chew, and they'll get themselves in trouble. That's why there are laws and regulations in the first place.
You do an aileron roll at 0 G or you did it wrong and you pull several Gs entering and exiting the barrel roll or you did that wrong. Find any evidence that I'm wrong and post it here; I'd love to see it. Otherwise, back off; it's a good video.
It is illegal because you have to wear a parachute when you intentionally exceed 60 degrees of bank but hey I posted a video of me doing a loop so who am I to talk.
Is this illegal? I've always wondered.
kurnellampdwarf 2 days ago
I had no idea doing a roll in a cessna was so taboo, it's clear among the rage filled comments here that this is more dangerous than I thought!
Foxclass 4 days ago
Why would you even think about posting a video like this in public? It's like posting a video driving a car doing 110mph on the highway with a bunch of girls in the back seat just because you can get away with it. Not to mention the bad image you present of general aviation. I'm glad most pilots are not like this.
cruiserandmax 6 days ago
ok the more comments i see the dumber they get. lets put it this way...if you cant aileron roll an airplane you shouldnt be flying.
okokoksir 1 month ago
that was a nice smooth roll. didnt hurt a thing anf the airplane isnt going to fall out of the sky. if you get all uptight about doing a roll in a plane you should not be allowed to ever ride or even an airplane. its not dangerous, it doesnt hurt a thing. go fly a rulebook.
okokoksir 1 month ago
Silly way of messing up your gyros Tex. Want to do aerobatics, get the proper equipment. Sure, it's a 1g maneuver - but just shows your a knucklehead.
PA46TP 1 month ago
Barrel rolls are more dangerous because they involve careful rudder coordination.
That was an aileron roll.
noonedude101 2 months ago
That's an aileron roll, not a barrel roll.
TheTruepatriot1776 3 months ago
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castor5pollax 6 months ago
Fortunately, most of the dumb-kid comments come from those that will never have a chance to fly much less own an aircraft.
92fsoakcreek 7 months ago
cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
MrDentonai 7 months ago
he must have pressed Z or R twice.
happyturtle18 7 months ago
That will be a lot of fun when either your plane gives up on you or you run out of talent.
chubsmagoo 7 months ago
so if i take a lesson in a cessna the instructer wouldnt let me do this. i pull them off perfectly in sims and any other video game. dont hate i just want to know if someone might let me if i tip um a lot extra
cashflow010101 7 months ago
FFS all you commentators who weren't there who don't know who the pilot is nor the circumstances... an aileron roll as performed in this clip is not dangerous if performed correctly and this one looks like a copybook example. There are more self-righteous idiots on Youtube than perhaps anywhere else in the universe, and you lot are prime examples. And no I don't have any connection to this video nor the pilot.
nojwod 8 months ago
@nojwod Youre speaking in Generalities. Yes a plane could. Howver, THAT Plane is not certificated for aerobatic flight. Doing so is outside its intended and designed performance envelope.
92fsoakcreek 7 months ago
@92fsoakcreek
And? The rules are set up for the incompetents. When you have a pilot who knows what he's doing, an aileron/barrel roll is no different to level flight, it's a 1g manouevre. As demonstrated by the legendary Tex Johnson and Bob Hoover in particular. Like I said, Youtube, home of the self-righteous.
nojwod 7 months ago
@nojwod How does one become 'competent'? I have many hours of acro training and flight in AC certified for it. I still wont try a 'do-able' maneuver in an AC that doesnt spell it out in the POH. BTW, there are a lot of fun maneuvers you can do legally in a 172, 182 and 210. Look'em up. Oh BTW, Tex had career issues after his Seattle stunt. And Bob (who Ive met) didnt use a production AC for his show, the shrike was cert'ed in the exhibition category.
92fsoakcreek 7 months ago 2
You people just don't know what you're talking about. I got acrobatics lessons, and they ain't dangerous. Now, flying low and slow, THAT is dangerous cause you could (if not watching your airspeed) stall and it the planet real fast. Any kind of low flying is dangerous, you can hit a wire (that you will never see, most likely), or hit any kind of stuff. But a roll is NOT a dangerous manoeuver, whatever you can think. Any plane will do it harmlessly, if done properly.
vbertrand 8 months ago
@vbertrand So, you got a lesson....how good for you. What was the very first thing they taught you? Ill bet you either cant remember or it blew right over your head.
Not all planes can do aerobatics,.....even if done 'properly".
92fsoakcreek 7 months ago
@92fsoakcreek : Well, since you seem to remember my own past better than I do, what can I add more? A roll is nothing more than a turn. The word "acrobatics" is way too over-employed. Flying inverted is more acrobatic than doing a roll, for example. The aircraft remains at 1G during a roll (flying inverted requires a inverted fuel and oil system). But Average Joe just won't believe it. You surely can roll ANY aircraft safely. If you people don't understand physics, just don't try arguing.
vbertrand 7 months ago
Dumb.....just plain dumb.
This is a Darwin moment just waiting to happen.
GutpileCharlie 8 months ago
What a bunch of prudes. Most planes are suitable for mild aerobatics. Besides they were impressing chicks for future sex, and that's certainly worth dieing for.
videoclipits 10 months ago 8
Dude, WTF I would never roll a Cessna 340 thats just dumb :(
VictorHotelPilot 10 months ago
just googled found nothing Hawker 800 xp snap roll
zosofriend 10 months ago
As a Part 121 pilot I hear this a lot from the FAA - "Where there's smoke there is fire."
So with that said and for the benefit of whoever might one day buy this plane, do you mind publishing the serial number?
Google Hawker 800XP snap roll and see what a pilot did to a 800XP...
ATLMD88 10 months ago
This is an aileron roll. Not a barrel roll. A barrel roll is a combination of loop and roll. It looks like a helix.
iflyem3535 11 months ago 2
Yeah, on another note...Bob Hoover you are not. this maneuver was illegal. If you feel its not, please bring this video to your interview with your next employer. I think even Bob Hoover is shaking his head at this one. Your stupidity brings negative public opinion on our profession. I have student pilots that cant believe you were dumb enough to try this.
Engine out during this maneuver??? Your done. You cant believe you could handle that emergency as if you were Bob Hoover, can you? Wow
chopperpilotgod 1 year ago
WOW...with passengers no less. I see stupid pilots from time to time and I watch things like this and I just feel bad for the passengers. The passengers probably think this was fun. However, did the pilot inform them that this is highly illegal to do? Did he inform them that his bravado could quite possibly cost them their lives? That his ignorance and showing off could be the end of their life?
To us professionals out here who witnessed this idiot maneuver, this is the cause of criticism.
chopperpilotgod 1 year ago
Nice. It wasn't a barrel roll though. It was an aileron roll. A perfectly safe maneuver if you know what you are doing and do it right. If done correctly, the passengers would probably never know that the airplane had completed a roll unless they were looking out the window.
cmille23 1 year ago
@cmille23 Not to be rude but you got them mixed up, the barrel roll keeps a relatively constant positive G while the aileron roll will give you negative Gs when inverted.
SgtRevan 1 year ago
@SgtRevan You are correct in that during the barrel roll, you are pulling positive Gs all the way around. However, during the aileron roll, you are also positive all the way around. Check out Bob Hoover doing an 8 point hesitation roll while pouring a glass of iced tea! Neither the barrel roll nor the aileron roll are used in competition. The roll that you are thinking of is the slow roll as used in competition. During the inverted part of the slow roll, you will experience one full negative G.
cmille23 1 year ago
Too bad they don't have videos of the ones that left a smoking hole.
LegendBert 1 year ago
guys if he did it properly its a 1g maneuver totally safe totally harmless if done properly, its not the end of the world we all do it in 172's whats the harm... grow up
k2500diesel 1 year ago
@k2500diesel No it isn't. This is a Cessna 340, which is certified in the "normal category", not utility or aerobatic. Therefore any kind of aerobatic maneuvers are contrary to the limitations published in the AFM. This would therefore be an illegal maneuver. Also, what do you think would happen if this 340 lost an engine during the barrel roll? Safe my ass.
ASEL737 1 year ago
@ASEL737. You live by the book I see... enjoy your vanilla life
Internet fighting is stupid btw
k2500diesel 1 year ago
Lost an engine? It probably wouldn't make any difference. Look at what Bob Hoover does in a Shrike Commander.
cmille23 1 year ago
Who cares its fine we all do it.
ryanmlt1 1 year ago
1. it was a snap roll.
2. there are lots of maneuvers apprpriate for the 340, that some would consider 'aerobatic' but aren't. A chandelle for instance. or a wing-over.
Granted, I wouldn't do cuban-8s in it.
One thing he did, was to perform the maneuver above Va. I didn't see a full aileron deflection, but it was close.
92fsoakcreek 1 year ago
well maybe he shouldve pressed Z or R twice and it wouldnt be so bad.
XxBillyGoatNinjaxX 1 year ago
Not a barrell roll. Not legal. Not smart.
LJDRVR 1 year ago
Who gives a fuck... live a little people... Ive been flying a 172 for years and i cant break a thing on that plane.... cessnas arent made of wood U non violating pussies... I mean that with love :)
Bruette44 1 year ago
High rate of roll.
DrPilotRedC 1 year ago
Cessna 550 DOWN 14.2.2010 in Czech Republic near Germany. The specialist found black box and figure out that the plane fall in the matter of prohibited maneuvre "barell roll". All passengers are dead.
andrewhiteeminem 2 years ago 12
@andrewhiteeminem You're a moron. This is a 1G maneuver...Any maneuver can be dangerous if performed improperly.
b1cc2 1 year ago
@b1cc2
Not many maneuvers are "dangerous" per se. HOWEVER, what IS dangerous is when you mess up the maneuver and the subsequent recovery. I teach aerobatics and you would be surprised how dangerous a roll can be. Much more dangerous than a loop. Why? You are already carrying a lot of airspeed, and any maneuver that gets botched with a lot of speed can be dangerous. You wouldn't believe how many students want to split-s a roll because they relax the ailerons inverted and the nose drops.
iflyem3535 11 months ago 3
complete idiots pilots......i've violated plenty of these geniuses over the years and my advice is just dont do stuff like that.....with pax on board no less.....thats a few more violations added as well.
beergut111 2 years ago 12
@beergut111 Actually Beergut, this would be a stupid thing for a tight ass pencil pusher like yourself to do, but for a pilot that possesses just a few very basic skills, a barrel roll is no more dangerous than a steep turn. (Come to think of it, you probably should refrain from those too Beergut)
Andromedust 1 year ago 2
@Andromedust once again, you lack knowledge of the subject. Is that plane certified for aerobatic maneuvers? no.....there is reason for that.
your apology is accepted.
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 I believe you are confusing FAA regs with the relative ease of doing this maneuver. With training and experience in an aerobatic airplane, this maneuver is low risk. I would say that stalls could be the same risk due to chance of getting in a spin but most pilots have no spin recovery experience.
dtoften 1 year ago
@dtoften I believe you are confusing ignorance with stupidity... it dont matter if its easy or not. the airplane is not certified for aerobatic flight....period
none of you youtube aviation experts even know what classifies an aerobatic manuver..
think about it
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 You are simply stating that it is illegal to do in a normal category aircraft. I believe everyone understands that. What everyone else is saying is that this maneuver is fairly easy and low risk to certain pilots. You do not agree but each person has their judgement of risks that they like to do...such as a person speeding, for example. I'll leave it at that.
dtoften 1 year ago
@dtoften So this idiot pilot is test pilot for cessna and knows exactly how this plane will act during this flight...
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Some people shouldnt have a cert to fly.
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 No apology given... I understand you are very impressed with yourself but again you're confused.. self proclaimed experts often are.
Andromedust 1 year ago
@Andromedust ok that mean you're done wasting my time?
beergut111 1 year ago
@Andromedust mate you have no idea! Most pilots that do these type of manouvers in non aerobatic certified aircraft are usually pilots with just a few very basic skills and just enough knowledge not to know better. You probably think you're the next Bob Hoover! Who was banned from flying in the US for stupidity. And now novices like you're self want to copy him. If you want to do barrel rolls in non approved aircraft go do it by you're self in the middle of the atlantic! no one will miss you.
ipilot84 1 year ago
@Andromedust you dont understand much about aviation. The plane is not certified for that type of flying. It has nothing to do with skill. A skillful pilot would do this in that airplane to begin with.
If you drop your shitty kid attitude I would be glad to answer your questions, otherwise dont waste my fucking time.
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 I'm sure I forgot more than you know about aviation and still know a lot more than you do. I agree though, a hack like yourself should never attempt to do anything outside the envelope. Also, thanks for your offer to answer questions for me, but unfortunately I have no questions for you as I doubt you are any bit the expert you assume to be.
Andromedust 1 year ago
@Andromedust hahaha funny one kid. and completly senseless. You are the youtube aviation expert?...get over yourself.
I added my 8th type rating in 747-200 before you were born.....anything else?
yeah thats what i thought.....bye bye
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 What would the violations be? I know one would be the pax probably didn't have parachutes on and others?? Is illegal to roll a Cessna 340?
hrtlnd22 1 year ago
@hrtlnd22 operating the aircraft outside of its type certificate. A barrel roll is an aerobatic maneuver.Thats not allowed in this catergory of plane.....sorry.
this is how accidents happen right here.....usually by stupidity.
beergut111 1 year ago
@beergut111 What's pax? Passengers?
Foxclass 4 days ago
@Foxclass so all the people talking in the background is just a fantasy?
beergut111 4 days ago
@beergut111 I was looking for what you meant by the word "pax", what the fuck is wrong with you? Sorry I asked, shit for brains.
Foxclass 3 days ago
@Foxclass sorry it looked like you said "what pax?" yes pax short for passengers
beergut111 3 days ago
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@Foxclass sorry it looked like you said "what pax?" yes pax short for passengers
beergut111 3 days ago
DO A BARREL ROLL!
now pull it straight up and DO A TORQUE ROLL!
NOW pull it straight and DO A HARRIER ROLL
mrfourtysevenman 2 years ago 2
fuel pumps checks. hopefully.
really12345 2 years ago 2
That is incorrect. You can fly a 340 at 3.8G's all the time. It has an aluminum spar which does not fatigue below its limit stress point. Above 3.6G it would start to fatige.
The limitation is because the factory never certified the manuever. It could be because of liability, didn't see the need, or because it is difficult to perform in this aircraft (i.e. its slippery, etc).
I'm not saying I'm going to roll a 340 but I'm saying it certainly can be done safely.
-Robert, CFII & aerobatics.
RobertGary1 2 years ago 4
@RobertGary1
No, you are wrong. 3.8G is the certified limit and the ultimate limit is 150% of that. But structural fatigue can happen well below that limit.
Look at how many ADs or special inspections address aircraft used in low level survey work even though most never go above two Gs.
As for the pilot. Illegal and stupid. If you're going to continue to break the law, at least do it by yourself so you don't kill anybody.
Commercial Pilot/A&P IA
Calnickel 2 years ago
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"No, you are wrong. 3.8G is the certified limit and the ultimate limit is 150% of that. But structural fatigue can happen well below that limit."
But when it does it is recognized as a design flaw and an AD is issued to correct it. In anycase, if properly done, this roll should have been 1.0 G's. Bob Hoover did one while pouring iced tea.
-Robert
RobertGary1 2 years ago
3.8G's is the spar rating. If done correctly it should be no problem.
RobertGary1 2 years ago 2
looks more like an aileron-roll than a barrel roll
for a barrel roll you pull the stick, make a 90 ° roll , pull it again, so long till you are vertical flight postion, 90° again, and pull, if you re good, the acceleration is only 1 g, and all the time positive
twoaxis 2 years ago 2
Looks like fun Mr. Walker, actually more fun than driving in gravel
Harryhumdinger 2 years ago
you just violated a regulation lol. No pilot shall conduct an aerobatic manoeuvers while carrying passengers in the air craft. lol i goto school for air craft mechanics
matthewfreire28 2 years ago
There is nothing in the FARs prohibiting aerobatics with passengers on board. Spelling "manoevers" the way you did suggests that it is possibly prohibited in Canada, but in the good ol' USofA, it's perfectly legit. It is still probably against the POH guidance, however.
bongna83 2 years ago
That's a 135 rule. Under part 91 we can do aerobatic with pax as long as they have chutes.
RobertGary1 2 years ago
not in this plane you cant
beergut111 2 years ago
COMMENTING ON THE COMMENT BELOW:
"That said, this video does prove that this basic aerobatic manouever can be performed by any aircraft safely"
Nope. Can a 747 do this?
kc42280 2 years ago
The answer is yes. Look it up. It's either a 707 or 747. Whichever it is it still can do it. Only 1G is required to do this maneuver. And the man below is right any aircraft can do it. Just some aircraft require more altitude to fully complete the maneuver.
parker47591 2 years ago
my below reply was to kc42280 about a 747 doing a barrel roll. not stating the video above is a 707 cause its obviously not. Most likely a Cessna 310.
parker47591 2 years ago
it is a 707.....actualy the first model of the 707 (-80)
my granddaddy designed the high speed alrions on it also the inboard flaps
FireFighterrock24 2 years ago
Of course it's against aviation regulations and the POH. That said, this video does prove that this basic aerobatic manouever can be performed by any aircraft safely...but unless its approved you're a test pilot with no insurance.
And to clear things up on the aerobatics side:
This is not a barrel roll. A barrel roll has a lot more pitch change and G-forces from about 2.5G to 0.5G.
A competition roll is a roll around a point, and needs +/- 1G.
This is an aileron roll.
Automuse 2 years ago 2
Love the comments.."can we do it again?!?"
: )
twiliteflyer 2 years ago
I love the comments! Personally I'm on the Pilot's side on this. Did the Wright Bros. need to have regs in place to know what is safe or not? There was nothing stressful in this. A spin would produce more rotational force than this, and the tip tanks won't fall off. Face it, mostly ignorant people are the ones making the laws!
MacGyverGTP 3 years ago
There is a very thin line between being brave and being stupid! Stupid is as stupid does!
ljackso 3 years ago
Can you do a barrel roll at maneuvering speed?
SoCalFlya 3 years ago
Contrails :O
peepeevagi 3 years ago
Try fuel tank vent, Ace
FlightLevelHeaded 3 years ago
I agree as aprofessional pilot , you are quite stupid. I would hate to be the next person to buy that plane. It seems like Mommy and Daddy probably bought that for you and you think its a cool toy.
There are two types of pilots,Old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.
Hopefully you dont kill anyone anytime soon.
njplanes 3 years ago
You make too many assumptions in your claims, it seems you are the idiot here.
acsmashing 3 years ago
Wow, 3 comments in 3 minutes, I must have struck a nerve.
My assumptions are observations of a truly stupid pilot and ignorant people making comments that are completely stupid.
If you thimk that doing aerobatics in a plane not certified for them with passengers is cool that shows you are stupid.
As a professional pilot and instructor of over 20 years I will comment out of knowledge when I see something stupid.
njplanes 3 years ago 2
Why exactly would you hate to be the next person to buy the airplane?
capceo 3 years ago
capceo, If you can't figure that one out your pretty dense.
njplanes 3 years ago
Really? I dont know why youve got a bug up your ass about this, considering I never said anything offensive to you. A barrel roll is a perfectly safe maneuver. It is a 1g maneuver when done CORRECTLY. Tex Johnson rolling the Boeing 707 at 2000 feet is a great example of how safe this maneuver is. Considering this Cessna 340 is being flown by an ex-military pilot, Im pretty sure its safe. So unless youre going to calm down, stop talking just to hear yourself talk.
capceo 3 years ago 2
A few things to consider:
1. The PIC of this aircraft has violated not only the FARS but also the aircraft manufacturers limitations on that aircraft since it is clearly not approved for aerobatic flight(assuming 1G or not) Aerobatic flight is defined by pitch and bank angles not by numbers of G's.
2. Assuming the aircraft was approved for this , parachutes must be wore by all aboard to be legal.
It may be safe but totally illegal. Thats why we have aerobatic approved aircraft.
njplanes 3 years ago
what is your point?
learjetflyboy 3 years ago
njplanes you should apply to the FAA. Mission Statement: "We're not happy till your not happy" Your just the buzz kill they look for in a valued employee.
egosupermansam 3 years ago
That is awesome..You're lucky to have such a nice looking aircraft.
motokid032 3 years ago
All you morons can go to hell that are complaining this is illegal. The fun stuff is usually illegal anyways. These people had a good time and nobody was hurt. Have fun following the rules your whole life.
acsmashing 3 years ago
You are the moron if you think this is cool. You should stick to flight sim and leave the real flying to us pros.
njplanes 3 years ago
Why am I a moron for thinking that this is cool?
acsmashing 3 years ago
Thank god there is someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. Just because the regs say it is dangerous, is it? Who wears their mask above 410 or 350 on a charter...nobody...sue me bitch
learjetflyboy 3 years ago
Hahahaha... perfect.
egosupermansam 3 years ago
ROTATIONAL LOADS!! unless those tips were empty, think about the 300lbs of fuel in them 15 or so feet from the axis. even at 90degs per second. thats some force mr. cessna did not put into the design of the 340. Im all for haven fun in planes but please think first! specialy with chicks in the back.
golfbagflyer 3 years ago 2
Press z or r twice!
bsartist 3 years ago
Aerobatic Manoeuvres with Passengers
602.28 No person operating an aircraft with a passenger on board shall conduct an aerobatic manoeuvre unless the pilot-in-command of the aircraft has engaged in
(a) at least 10 hours dual flight instruction in the conducting of aerobatic manoeuvres or 20 hours conducting aerobatic manoeuvres; and
(b) at least one hour of conducting aerobatic manoeuvres in the preceding six months.
jimbr00k 3 years ago
I'm fairly certain theres also a clause about planes being certified in the aerobatic category.
gnarkillkicksass 3 years ago
Guys... this is stright out of the book. The regulation numbers are right there and they are online too... you can do an aerobatic manoeuver in any plane you want. Christ, we were doing spiral dives in 172s during our flight training remember?? Of course you would only remeber that if you are actual pilots...
jimbr00k 3 years ago
Only canada does that, i think the americans are too scared !
keeevan 3 years ago
A spiral dive is not an aerobatic maneuver. Most training aircraft are certified for spins but rarely further than that. A Cessna 340 is most definitely not certified for aerobatics. That being said, the aircraft might (read MIGHT) be able to do the maneuver, but there is no guarantee that it will not cause structural damage or failure.
123whatev 3 years ago
Aerobatic Manoeuvres - Prohibited Areas and Flight Conditions
602.27 No person operating an aircraft shall conduct aerobatic manoeuvres
(a) over a built-up area or an open-air assembly of persons;
(b) in controlled airspace, except in accordance with a special flight operations certificate issued pursuant to section 603.67;
(c) when flight visibility is less than three miles.
jimbr00k 3 years ago
I rolled an aztec a few years ago and got busted. I'm facing a suspension now. It's not worth the trouble. Grow up and conform to society.
flyman3456 3 years ago
flyfedex as an MEI you should know that a barrel roll is a 1g maneuver that can be done in any aircraft ever produced
LIVE4JC4EVR 3 years ago
Come on man, if you want to do that get into a pitts or something. Yes, irresponsiblity at its finest, military pilot or not. As an MEI it kills me to watch that. Don't re-invent the wheel, bob hoover days are dead and gone now. Be responsible, especially with pax on board. If that were my student I'd report him/her, that would be my ticket on the frickn line! Remember, there are instructors and examiners watching this stuff.
flyfedex 3 years ago
Barrel rolls are illegal in a 152/172/ and this aircraft because they are utility/normal category. However, this is a good video! I'm not up for trying them in my 172 but it's cool to see someone else do them! And for anyone saying "i'll turn you in to the FAA"...get a life!.. You are probably one of those hillbillies who don't know what they're doing in the air.
geterdunasap1 4 years ago
The reason the rules exist, ist because it doesnt matter how good you are, a 172, or a 152, or a 340 is not designed to do this maneuver, therefore it is inherantly unsafe, and it gives the news media one more reason to attack general aviation. Its reckless, and indicates a lack of judgement. Its still a really cool video though, I must admit, and a well executed maneuver.
apredictableecho 3 years ago
these flight academys produce all these know it all students, lets not forget at riddle the traffic pattern in a 172 is as large as that in a 747..........guess thats in the regs 2, idiots sorry if i offended anyone
v6greenfbird95 3 years ago
a barrell roll in a plane, if done correctly does not put more than half a G,,,,and you keep it positive,,get light in the inverted half just a bit,,,it's not rocket surgery,,shit man
1taildragger 4 years ago
Thats not the point rocket scientist. Exceeding 60 degrees bank constitutes aero flight. And Im sure they all didnt have chutes on.
njplanes 3 years ago
You sure get an erection knowing that you are a good rule follower.
acsmashing 3 years ago
And of course, if you guys talking about the whole structural stress and damage thing know what youre talking about, A BARREL ROLL IS A ONE G MANEUVER. It wont stress the airframe if it is done properly.
capceo 3 years ago
oh shut up,,,,dickhead who's crying about doing barrell rolls probably jacks off to porn with his feet.
1taildragger 4 years ago
lol wtf
plane45036 4 years ago
Doesn't really matter what the regulations say... Common sense should prevail. How old is that 340? How many people before you have screwed around in it? Does it have inverted oil/fuel? Sure its fun, but is impressing a couple chicks worth screwing up a $500,000 dollar plane, or cracking the spar so the next guy who flies it can have the wing wrinkle and maybe fall off? Not really. I'm sure the girls were impressed though.
raybanman 4 years ago
Nice! =D
tiomacal 4 years ago
Aerobatics are legal if they are performed 1,500 AGL or above, 4 miles from any airway, and in class G airspace. However, I'm not sure if you can do aerobatics in an airplane that's not utility category? Maybe I'm wrong. In any case, a barrel roll is probably the least stressful maneuver involving inversion there is. Still, to do that with passengers in an airplane that's not designed for it could be considered irresponsible...
Adveniotu 4 years ago 3
Which one of you guys is James Dobson, LOL. Rules are meant to be broken. Just ask Bush.
fundysdotcom 4 years ago
the airplane is NOT apprved for acrobatic maneuvers including spins. It is a normal and utility category airplane only. FAA defines acrobatic maneuver as anytime in the flight exceeding more than 60 degrees of bank and Or 30 degrees of pitch..US air force pilot or not, and parachutes or not, does not make it legal. Although Air Force pilots don't know what they're talking about anyways, so if anybody is going to lose their certificate, it should be a military person
ericbrom 4 years ago
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legal huh? i think going 80 on the highway is illegal too but im sure we all do it. in any case, you have no balls. flying is meant to be fun, not takeoff, cruise, land. maybe when you pull the cock out of your vagina youll know what im talking about. dick.
Python1287 4 years ago
OK Barny... keep the bullet in yer pocket. 1+g all the way around, hardly qualifies as aerobatic... (pay no attention to the artificial horizon...or the real one they're wrong)
louswire 4 years ago
Obviously nothing here is illegal per se, it is only going against the recommendations of the aircraft manufacturer and FAA. The FARs are NOT law, they are only just that, regulations, as is the POH.
RockMancuso 4 years ago
Uh, regulations are law. FAA is the governing body for aviation and has jurisdiction.
Yuppie1980 4 years ago
In other words The POH is recomandations which means you wont neccisaraly be in trouble for going against them, I.E. It will discribe how to lean the airplane. If you crash and you are found to be not following recomandations THEN you are in trouble... Pilot Error, They didn't crash in my book there safe
v6greenfbird95 4 years ago
Actually, they could still be in trouble, lack of chutes, etc.
apredictableecho 3 years ago
u should all shut u mouth
49561824 4 years ago
Thanks skypirate.Right out of the 340 manual page 2-6 under maneuvers limits it says and I quote"This is a normal category airplane.Aerobatic maneuvers,including spins,are prohibited".Rangerpilot get your facts right before you open your mouth.Like I said your clueless.
19211926 4 years ago
According to FAR § 23.3 a Normal Category aircraft (Cessna 340) is allowed to do maneuvers necessary for normal flight not including spins, but including maneuvers with bank angles not exceeding 60 degrees. FAR § 91.303 says...aerobatic flight means...not necessary for normal flight. Going upside down in non-aerobatic category aircraft = illegal.
Skypirate03 4 years ago
FAR 23.3 simply defines the Normal Category. It doesn't define what is or is not legal.
FAR 91.303 lists the places you cannot conduct aerobatic flight and it has nothing to do with the type of plane in which you can fly aerobatics.
FAR 91.307 requires a chute.
Anyhow, that's my two cents.
tncbbthositg 4 years ago
Still sounds to me like it makes it illegal since it says in paragraph (a) of 23.3 that normal category aircraft are not intended for Aerobatic flight and (1) of (a) says that it can do steep turns, not exceeding 60 degrees of bank. My take on the FARs is that they are Regulatory in nature, so if it says that your aircraft is not intended for such-and-such, then I'm assuming that it makes it a rule.
Don't take my word for it!!! Look it up.
Skypirate03 4 years ago
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you are a pussy
Python1287 4 years ago
Good arguement Python...very compelling.
Skypirate03 4 years ago
That got you fired up.Check with the feds dude.But of course your to smart for that.If your here in San Diego I'll be glad to meet you at the fsdo.Good luck
19211926 4 years ago
Ranger pilot your clueless.Check with the FAA and ask them if it's legal.You might want to read a 340 manual and see if it's approved for aerobatic maneuvers like rolls.i can tell ya it's not.After you do that you can get back to me and I'll get you a number to a buddy of mine that's with the FAA and he can explain it.
19211926 4 years ago
Ok...you obviously think you have a divine knowledge of all things aeronautic.
14 CFR 91.303 Aerobatic Flight. Airspace, altitude, visibility, and spectator restrictions. Nothing about airplanes.
Reading through the Cessna 310 (smaller version of 340) manual, nothing from the first to last page banning aerobatic manuevers. So you may take your all-knowing shit and your "FAA buddy" and put them both back in your ass with your head where they belong.
RangerPilot 4 years ago
I also forgot to mention I hope to God your not a CFI because that's all we need is someone like you teaching people to fly..
19211926 4 years ago 2
Ranger pilot: Would that be a Jet Ranger that you pilot?
wavefool 3 years ago
holy shit. so much fuckin hatin!
olsonr 4 years ago
Agreed...I don't really care if they illegally rolled the thing. I'm just annoyed that people are fighting over whether or not it was illegal.
Skypirate03 4 years ago
Bite Me skate.You must also be a Idiot pilot.Let me know when your flying and I'll stay on the ground.
19211926 4 years ago
Get your facts straight before you go trying to play regulation man. There's nothing that bans this plane from doing a barrel roll, or an aileron roll as this was. The airplane is perfectly capable, the pilot apparently thinks he is perfectly capable. Thousands of airplanes do rolls every day, some aerobatic airplanes, some normal airplanes. The forces the airplane experienced during that roll were nothing compared to what it would experience during heavy turbulence or student training.
RangerPilot 4 years ago
You're an idiot. There are lots of things you can do, but that doesn't make it legal. You can accept money to fly someone somewhere, but that may not be legal. You can fly 50 feet off the ground, but it may not be legal. Thousands of people may be able to do this, but there's a few out there that will bite off more than they can chew, and they'll get themselves in trouble. That's why there are laws and regulations in the first place.
JamesNoBrakes 3 years ago
Part 135 ??
wavefool 3 years ago
shutup narc!
skateboyrandy 4 years ago
If I knew who you where I would turn you in to the FAA!!!!
19211926 4 years ago
i wish I could turn you in to the FAA!!!
19211926 4 years ago
what means FAA? is it not allowed to doe rolls in a cessna?
holzmichi04 4 years ago
Irresponsibility at it's greatest... that maneuver is not approved in that aircraft.
archer49d 4 years ago 4
i could see teh wing tip smok
hawker445 4 years ago
A proper barrel roll should hold 1 positive g on the aircraft during the whole manuver that way the aircraft never knows its inverted.
kingair81r 4 years ago
yeah that wasn't a proper barrel roll though
seafury500 4 years ago
No it shouldn't. Usually, you'll pull several g's in the initial roll in and on the roll out and should be approaching zero g on top.
tncbbthositg 4 years ago
Wrong!!!It's a 1g maneuver.You don't pull several g's.
19211926 4 years ago
You do an aileron roll at 0 G or you did it wrong and you pull several Gs entering and exiting the barrel roll or you did that wrong. Find any evidence that I'm wrong and post it here; I'd love to see it. Otherwise, back off; it's a good video.
tncbbthositg 4 years ago
It's also illegal dude.If you think otherwise your clueless.
19211926 4 years ago
It is illegal because you have to wear a parachute when you intentionally exceed 60 degrees of bank but hey I posted a video of me doing a loop so who am I to talk.
Yuppie1980 4 years ago
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Python1287 4 years ago
Why do you say that fuck face.
Yuppie1980 4 years ago
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