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  • When was it ever ok to pronounce 'style' as 'sty-lee'? I've heard that a few times now, it has to stop.

  • I love Sylvester Stallone, and am made up that he is having a huge career resurgence right now - but completely agree with Mark that this was just a dull, slightly lumbering action film. The ending was anti-climactic, and you found out much, much less than you needed to, to effectively set up any dramatic tension. Loved Rocky Balboa, and The Expendables, but equally, I always admire Mark's direct and to-the-point style! Go Mark!

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  • rambo was aload of shit, but the bloody violence was great. totally over the top and excessive, which i like

  • Respected film critic disgusted?

    It looks like Stallone did his job.

    If this film had not included the things that Kermode objected to this film would be far worse than "morally repugnant" or "stupid" it would be BORING!

    And Kermode would still not like it but neither would anyone else.

    It's RAMBO for gawds sake, gore and revenge is what he DOES!

    Kermode is still a great critic but I feel this film should be rated as 18-30 rather than 18+ as he's clearly too mature for this film.

  • but otherwise OK?

  • SPOT ON review. Saw this film and forgot it soon after. Totally morally bankrupt, and not really because of the extreme violence.

  • Sylvester Stallone said it best himself when he was interviewed by Kermode in Canne. Stallone said there and then, categorically, that he would NOT be making Rambo or Rocky again. He said to do so would be, quotes, "stupid". No shit, sherlock. Kermode is right, of course. End of.

  • LOL.

  • Rambo IV is just a quality actioner 1980s style.

    Not great action but a return to 80s action form.

  • 'Rambo' made me feel sick more than 'Funny Games'

  • At the end of the day he is just doing his job. He does a damn good job at it too

    And of course some people are not going too agree and that is fine. But to call him everyname under the sun just because he doesnt like a film that you do. well...thats pretty low.

    Who wouuld listen to these reviews if he didnt slag some off at some point.

    his job is to have a opinion on the matter and share it.

  • I see what he's saying but the point of this movie is really to just forget about everything and enjoy stallone at his best.

  • No, see I'm with Kermode. I think this one was actually trying to say that this is how things should work in an ideal world. And the amount of people nodding their head in agreement sort of confirms that.

  • Bad acting, bad morals, bad writing, bad directing. BAD movie

  • mutantshark please desist from ...oh.. just shut up you cunt

  • I'm so sick of people saying box office reflects satisfaction. The grosses tell you A how effective the marketing was and ultimately B how many people wanted to see it - it tells you very little about how much people enjoyed what they actually saw. By this logic Transformers is a better film than There Will be Blood, suffice to say their theory doesn't hold up.

  • Wow, I'm surprised some of the people posting here managed to get into an 18.

    MAN TALK - WORDS MEAN HE NO LIKE RAMBO?

    I LIKE RAMBO AND GUNS. I NO LIKE MAN.

  • suck, my. (badly) punctuated ass!

  • You know what you're doing to those brackets is illegal in 14 states?

  • I feel dirty that I loved this movie, shit. I love Kermode more though...I need a wash now : (

  • And your name is woopeeshite. Wow...

  • Kermoded

  • You dont know nothing about films and your opinion is WANK!!

  • Rambo rocked my inner 15-year-old, and sometimes there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

  • man, this guys a genius, he likes films with STUFF, fucking brilliant.

  • That people should try and justify such a pointless gorefest says a great deal.

    Kermode likes horror and gore as much as anyone else. I dont always agree with him, but if he says this film is awful I believe him. 4 deaths a minute or something? some of you guys need a shrink.

  • stupid and pointless storyline, terrible ending, cringing dialogue, made purpously to make money..just a bad bad film. mark kermode knows what hes talking about, maybe americans see the film differently i dont know.

  • He really doesn't get it does he?

  • It may be a bad film if you examine it.But its the kind of the film that 90% of men and alot of women will enjoy regardless.

  • Actually it's a '50s haircut.

  • Kermode is the kind of person that thinks every film should be The Exorcist. Chill out, Rambo is just a popcorn action movie-nothing more, nothing less

  • Then I refer you to the work of Bill Hicks, and his opinions on mediocrity.

    You like Rambo, Kermode doesn't, his right to express that is the beauty of living in a free country.

  • Free country? Where?

  • Great Britain, doye.

  • @burbledad Not really, he rates very well high school musical and v for vendetta as well as other mindless films. that aside rambo was a well made action film.

  • Grey-haired, speccy twat. Relax and enjoy a movie once in a while. It's not made to win awards or gain respect. It's old fashioned fun. It's a film designed to leave your disbelief at the door and just relax and enjoy it for what it is.

  • You don't feel there's a place for critical analysis? I can't switch my brain off at the door I'm afraid, and thank god, neither can Kermode and many many discerning punters.

  • This guy is a tosser.

    i doubt he's even seen the film, because there was `NO Welding in it, He was an Iron Monger.

    its cooler, and what this jeb says doesnt show the moral bankruptcy of this film, it shows how pretentious saving private ryan is.

  • where the fuck have my previous comments gone?

  • I agree with Mark Kermode that Rambo is morally bankrupt. However I still kinda liked the movie. Does this make me a bad person? ;)

    Although I disagree with him that it's difficult to get a bbfc 18 these days, sweeney todd got one and it wasn't that bad.

  • He's a smart film critic, being honest about a diabolical film. The fact that you like it says so much about you...

  • Mark's impression of Rambo fans posting in this thread was classic!

  • I know, one of the highlights of my saturday evening *giggles*

  • Kermode speaks the truth. Those who have a problem, find a way to deal.

  • kermode isn't an idiot. you can disagree with him (as everyone must do, from time to time) but you can't state he is lacking in mental capacity because of his dislike for this infantile film. Unless you're an idiot yourself.

  • KERMODE IS GOD! he is absolutely right, i love a gory action movie as much as the next man but RAMBO was HORRIBLE seriously unnecessary violence, very disturbing very pointless, very boring my 3 year old cousin could have written the script for the latest rambo, Hideous film

  • Haha Mark mentioned this video clip on Youtube and the comments on todays show.

    Hey Kermode, High Five!

  • Ha! That's why I'm here!

    Funny how the people who hate him most here also come across as the most ignorant and stupid. Coincidence?

  • funny how the people who like him the most also come across as the most arrogant and stupid.

  • I don't diasagree with his verdict on Rambo but why oh why is he such a condescending, pretentious, melodramatic half-wit! His vocabulary on reviews persistently involves the vacuous use of phrases such as 'a bunch of', 'geuss what', 'but hey' and 'really really really' and after saying he won't review Rambo's morality - he does just that!

    Why are people interested in his arrogant, self-important opinion on films - Rambo is not a hugely intellectual film but just entertainment Kermode!

  • Mark Kemode is an idiot. he Just takes the p**s out of the film all the way through this review. He needs to learn that some people would rather just watch a straight forward action movie compared to a 'peice of art' or whatever cr*p he likes.

  • don't like the movie? fair enough, but give stallone the credit as a film maker instead of harping on about spielberg. it was really well filmed and directed and felt totally different to saving private ryan on that level.

    says he's not gonna be moralistic about it and thats all he talks about like he's some intellectual heavyweight.

    in my opinion really good film, a bit light on the plot but enough to keep it going.

    kermode can get back to the "culture" show where he belongs.

  • What a load of utter pish this man just spouted.

  • Ascian - Why do you feel the need to use such offensive language?

  • I laughed all the way through 'Rambo'. Hilarious!!

  • Dont agree with anything Kermode said. Why would he expect hollywood to have morality up on their list of priorities? Why review it as though its a documentary. Its a film and thoroughly enjoyable.

  • Kermode spelt wrong knobber

  • Meh, it's Rambo, not the latest Scorsese offering - lighten up for fuck sake!

  • What a dull world we'd live in if nobody had an opinion.

  • Thanks Mark,

    I'll just buy it on DVD Chinese girl who sells them in the pub after football,there only 2 quid

  • I also have to say that I find it a bit hard to be subjective about Stallone as he is part of th fabric of my childhood, just as Star wars is in my DNA. Going to see a Rambo film in the cinema felt like something I had wanted to do in years, as if it was a chance to show my gratitude to a film star that I feel like I had forgotten about. I wonder how much business Rambo gets based on other peoples feelings of seeing Sly 'Back' so-to-speak as it seems the big movie stars of old are long gone.

  • Mark - You're not wrong with this review... Well, you're not wrong in as much as when you really think about it, this film is questionable, morally.

    But... But... I loved it.

    I think the funniest thing for me is that my brothers girlfriend came back from the film saying she found it 'moving' and that it was well shot and reminded her of her trip to Asia when she went travelling. I laughed my ass off for hours. Somehow the brutality of the film hadn't phased her at all.

    Sly still has it.

  • Rambo is RAMBO. Why is he complaining? You don't go see a film like this and expect art. You go to see Stallone blow shit up, and that's what Rambo DOES. Kermode can really be an ass sometimes.

  • I don't that think his main problem with the film is in that he merely thinks it is intellectually vacuous, but rather what he sees as OTT and morally questionable subject matter. I think he could have saved three minutes of his life by just uttering the word 'Gratuitous'. By the way I haven't seen the film so I can't say whether I agree or disagree.

  • He called Predator stupid the other week he too often forgets people actually like stupid films. something that he can never do , quite sad really.

  • Does anyone appreciate the irony of watching someone broadcasting on the radio! LOL

    Any reason why Kermode was being filmed?

  • I hate "Film" critiques. Because film is too broad for someone to actually respect all genres. Most "Film" critiques really are Drama and Arthouse critiques and therefore don't like horror,adventure,action etc. It's like a Boxing commintators opinion of a football match.

  • What a review!...brilliant job Mark.

  • Kermode is a critic like any other. Whether they are talking about films, videogames, literature, music or whatever, they always come accross as self-important and pompous. Kermode isn't the worst critic in the world for this, but his lack of a sense of humour has always made it difficult for me to listen to him.

  • "Lack of a sense of humour"?

    He's consistently hilarious. The Kermode Rant is something listeners look forward to. He's had so many fanatastic caffeine-fuelled reviews now.

    And what'smost important is he knows the difference between good genre cinema and bad genre cinema, unlike most elitest critics who are ready to write off entire filmmaking conventions simply because they aren't sensible enough.

    The best film critic working today.

  • I don't agree that he doesn't have a sense of humour. I think he does?

  • of course he does have a sense of humour, he admits to laughing in Alvin and the Chipmunks but only once, he's mostly spot on but occasionally misses the mark....ok Superbad didn't deserve the rough deal it got.....also as for him just liking drama and arthouse, I'm pretty sure horror is his favourite genre but only when its good, problem is the bulk of the latest stuff is just mass produced pulp that are remakes of horrors that actually had something to say.

  • He also really liked the first two Die Hards and lots of other good action films which is why I respect his opinion on most things even if I dont agree with him. Of cores everyone is wrong ocationaly and hes even admited his error sometimes.

  • Mark Kermode didn't like Tarantino's 'Death Proof'. He absolutely hated it.

  • Half of the comments here are entirely representative of the completely lamentable state of modern cinema. I'm not slavishly worshiping at the altar of Kermode, if Jewelcherry wants to disagree then fine, as long as its done by intellectually engaging with the work. lgworldl and ashkai78 are clearly morons. If all you want from a film reviewer is to tell you how well it will occupy your ten second attention span, go watch Johnathan Ross.

  • Kermode's way too smart for Youtube! It's so nice to see a critic who actually knows what he's talking about, despite most people's opinions to the contrary it appears.

  • In all fairness, Ross isn't a bad reviewer either.

  • lsgworldl i bet you think No Country for Old Men is such a geat film yet hardly one watched it

  • If you think popularity and quality are coefficients then I suggest you look at the music charts.

  • Spider-Man 3 and Transformers were boring films.

  • Kermode for PM.

  • oh leave mark alone this is passion! and well wee snobbery...bless him. he's better in the transformers review when he calls it 'porn'.

  • Yes. Let us ignore him being right.

  • And I'm guessing it was people like you who did the bullying.

  • true and i regret doing that but this guy is a tool

  • ...says a man with a Highlander video in his favorites

  • dam right

  • 'Highlander'?! In a just world you'd be bullied.

    I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself if you're willing to tell me what's the most critically acclaimed film you own - and saying Forrest Gump merits decapitation.

  • Rocky 3 and my mum hits harder than that come on champ in the face lol

  • He's doing his job... Moron.

  • rambo movies have always successfully tapped into the times they were made, and this is no exception. Kermit Comode paid tribute to the Tarantino Death Proof film which is violence for violence's sake and far more graphic, yet when Stallone puts it in a context that makes it more real he is criticised. Stallone actually demonstrates that he is a great director and writer by generating response by clever narrative. But Kermit seems to think that a Rambo movie cant have a message - but they all do

  • Every film can have a message, but whether that message is salient/well constructed/ interesting/original is another matter.

    That isn't me trying to knock Stallone per se, even the greatest Directors can fail to do that. I'll happily admit to having enjoyed Rocky Balboa more than some of Jean-Luc Goddard's infuriating, less restrained 1980s films.

    He didn't like Death Proof. If my memory serves me right he hasn't liked any Tarantino film since Jackie Brown.

  • I stopped reading this when you used the term "per se"...

  • I feel that Stallone is criticised for trying to have a message of this gravity because it is not considered appropriate by Kermit Comode. In fact in few films have we seen the graphic violence such regimes bring - Stallone brings his message home in a powerful and emotive way.

  • A fair point Jewelcherry,but if the reviewer feels that the message of the film (or the way the message is presented) is not appropriate then surely they should say that?

    And as a side issue,the message of a film and the way it is presented are two different things.

    For example it's possible to be against the Iraq War and at the same time really dislike Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 as it presents its anti-war message badly.

    Also,why Kermit?When has Kermit ever been a bad thing? ;-)

  • This is a movie from a director and writer who beat out Taxi Driver to win an Oscar. This movie is not Oscar worthy, but it is worthy. Comode is really an entertaining critic rather than a balanced one, and I just wanted to point out that he is off the mark in this review. Ricky Balboa was an amazing addition to the franchise too. Like Eastwood Stallone is getting better with age.

  • A fair point fairly made :-)

    Though, much has been said about why Rocky won that year being due to the context of America politally at the time.

    Either way, it is a film I enjoy watching and I actually agree with you that the films Stallone is making are getting better.

  • the film was awsome end off dnt beileve this guy!

  • I love the idea that we 'have to listen to him'. Do you live somewhere in which listening to Kermode is imposed by the state as a form of Religion?

  • I apologise, I totally forgot that I should know everything about your work place and that radio five is always on there. If only you had reminded me of that situation when you made your first post...

  • Yeah. I'd be much more comfortable if someone like you had his job instead.

  • I'm really not sure you understand the concept of a review.

  • Perhaps you might take a moment to indulge us with your brief review of Rambo?

  • Twenty years after the last film in the series, John Rambo has retreated to northern Thailand, where he's running a longboat on the Salween River. On the nearby Thai-Burma border, the world's longest-running civil war, the Burmese-Karen conflict, rages into its 60th year.

  • But Rambo, who lives a solitary, simple life in the mountains and jungles fishing and catching poisonous snakes to sell, has long given up fighting, even as medics, mercenaries, rebels and peace workers pass by on their way to the war-torn region.

  • That all changes when missionaries are captured by the Burmese Army. Pastor Arthur Marsh turns to Rambo for help. Although the United States military trained him to be a lethal super soldier in Vietnam, decades later Rambo's reluctance for violence and conflict are palpable, his scars faded, yet visible. However, the lone warrior knows what he must do.

  • That's a set up, not a review. You couldn't immagine Barry Norman saying that about a film. What you wrote would be on the back of a DVD case.

    I like it that Kermode doesn't ruin the plot when reviewing movies. It's a case of watch this movie, don't watch this one. Plus he's very funny.

  • Ok, I understood everything Mark Kermode says... but is it wrong that I actually enjoyed watching this immoral, overly ridiculous film? It does bombard you with loads of violence and bad messages... but I loved it and got excited watching it. What do you guys think?

  • I felt the same way. The thing that got me was the scene where the missionaries got kidnapped. My adrenalin glands were pumped and I was excited by it, but then I thought to myself "should I really be excited by this?". After all, I was seeing little kids being bayonetted and mothers being shot in the back.

    As noble as Stallone's intentions seem in interviews, I don't think he really cares about the burmese.

  • i wish he would complet the words he half says.

  • Love it, keep it up Mark.

  • Kermode is dead right - Rambo is so terrible that it should never have been made

  • Sly should go back to what he knows best - Shakespeare, Checkov, etc.

    And you can just imagine how much better he would have been in 'There will be Blood'.

    Woder what Kermode would look like after a few pints.

  • I reckon he'd be standing on the bar playing air-double bass to skiffle, glasses wonky, quiff coming unstuck

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