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  • Funny stuff. It takes a lot more belief to think you came out of oooze from a rock than to believe a devine creator. There is proof of everything in the bible. Science evolution only has theories using the proof in the bible as their evidence. God bless!

  • Just saw Ray Comfort dismiss Speciation as not being Evolution. The definition of Evolution isn't evolution in his opinion. (Thunderf00t debate)

  • Thom is a fool, just that simple.

  • Don't waste your time debating a Christian.I don't, for the same reason I don't debate someone who thinks the Moon is made of cheese. It's like trying to stop a dog that's humping your leg. It's funny at first but the more you try to push it off the harder it humps. In the end the dog runs off and licks it's own ass and you got the dogs Jizz on you. Moral is- don't wrestle a pig cuz you'll get covered in shit and the pig is still a pig.

  • Everyone's talking about such smart things, meanwhile I'm like:

    Hey! Funny cartoon times at 1:03! Derp-a-derp! :P

  • For anyone as retarded as Ray: populations evolve, NOT individuals. There would be an entire population of similar organisms that his fictional creature would be able to mate with, passing on its presumably favorable genes to the next generation. Assuming these genes were favored, they would continue to become more common within this population.

    Also, no one would argue that the evolution something like an eye was a one step process.

  • It is obvious that there were other people on the planet earth besides the lineage of Adam. Any thing past that is just speculation. A good explanation though is to see that the Bible is the history of the hebrews apart from the nations. The creation story deas mentions two different stories for man's creation. One could assert that the first one was mankind in general and the second was Adam. It could be explained that way without losing any integrity in the story.

  • @XjmedX There is no integrity in either of the creation myths of Genesis. And they aren't in any way shape or form a history of the Hebrews since the myths are borrowed from earlier people. The Hebrews borrowed where they could and added to their own myths...and these myths have become truth to the ignorant.

  • WTF is a distant sister? One who lives in Maine while the rest of the family live in California?You're condoning incest Ray.

    Also, I had a quick look at the home page on your Living Waters website; when exactly did Hitler write Mein Kempt?

  • Awesome. Amazing. Ray recieves the pawning of a lifetime. Thank you so much. Got to share this video. Cheers.

  • Jesus is Lord. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I pray for those most in need of mercy.

  • I've been to the same museum. They have lots of nice fossils, and they have examples of evolution in reprpduction, true. But they reproduced from other fossils. Not to mention Ray's understanding of evolution is so ridiculous, no one could believe it.

  • @mornmeril But they do! LOL

  • "It's a God-given right to every American to be an atheist..."

  • ancestry from a chimp or from incest... gotta go with the chimps, they're too damn funny.

  • wow. I can't believe there are actually people THAT STUPID wh are able to dress themselves.

  • Can a creationist explain why Adam had breasts? If he was intelligently designed, why breasts on a male? I know why...but want to see if any ID or creationist has an answer.

  • @solusdiver Adam had breasts? OK

  • @XjmedX Yes, any man who has lived had breasts. Which shows we are an evolved species and not a created or intelligently designed animal.

  • @solusdiver That doesn't show anything besides the fact that we are made up of the same things. That proves evolution? Please. I could make a case for that proving creation. In fact, sex in many ways disproves evolution because why would a self replicating molecule which passes on 100% of it DNA to it's offspring evolve into another one which only passes 50%? You guys think you know but you really don't.

  • @XjmedX You can not make a case for creation. It's retarded. The debate is long over and creationism is dead...except to the truly ignorant. And just because you can't understand something doesn't make it false. Evolution has been proven time and time again...but there may be a time when it comes up false...science is open to that. But so far it's aces. You may want to check out Jerry Coyne's Why Evolution is True.

    You won't, because that's not how you guys work.

  • @solusdiver For you to say that just shows your partiality to evolution. To say that evolution has been proven over and over again is taking advantage of the multiple versions of evolution and clumping them all together and proving them all because one phase has been proven. We all know that changes happen within a species but evolutions grand claim that we all evolved from one original organism is so far from being proven and has no backing whatsoever of any evidence. Micro yes, macro no.

  • @solusdiver Anyone can make a case for creation without being religous. There is nothing we know of which has not been created. In fact, things just appearing on their own violate many known scientific laws which every basic science student knows, such as causality. Meanwhile evolutions claims that things just appeared and evolved through mutations is laugable when we know that mutations, while not always harmful are never beneficial and sometimes benign. These things go against common sense.

  • @XjmedX Before you make any sort of comment supporting your nonsense...learn how to spell. I told you...the debate is over and the facts are out there. Educate yourself on what evolution is and not what your ignorant pastor or ID zealot has told you. Read the book by Jerry Coyne that I mentioned and then re-evaluate your stance. Right now you are standing on a pile of ignorance.

  • @solusdiver Pile of ignorance? You have not even addressed any of the things I brought up and while accusing me of believing what others tell me, you ask me to read someone elses book? Ha!! Talk about being a hypocrite. The debate is over only in the minds of atheists. You guys are willing to overlook anything in order to perpetuate your religion of evolution ;)

  • @XjmedX evolution is not a religion as it does not require faith in the untangible. it also doesn'T state where the origin of life is. the theory of evolution starts with simple life forms (bacterias or the likes) and goes from there. The beginning of life theory is called abiogenesis which contains many plausible and non-magical hypothesis. Science doesn't say the universe came from nothing but remind me, out of what did god create the universe again?

  • @ErgoProxy12345 Oh it doesn't?! Try explaining to me how Darwins book is called the origin of species without any tangible proof of the theory? Don't come at me with so and so bacteria. Over millions of supposed years the ground should be litered with thousands of transitional fossils which Darwin himself predicted would be found within a hundred years and nothing has been found. Yet you guys claim creationists believe in fairy tales? Just because you want to believe in it doesn't meant it's tru

  • @XjmedX fossils not there? then how is it the museums are full of them? Sure at the time of first printing of Darwin's book there was not much of a case for evolution besides the amazing coincidence it would have been to that the closer animals live to each other, the more similar they are. But since then, we found thousands of just what Darwin said we should find. I'd like to direct you to AronRa's Fondational Falsehoods videos.

    BTW, the missing link ain't missing anymore.

  • @XjmedX nothing has been found? How about you type transitional fossils into a search engine and go to the image results?

    *tries it*

    Oh look, archeological photographs and museum exhibits. It's like Google completely discredited your entire argument in 2 seconds!

  • @TheSamuraiGoomba I did just that, and put them up in the video. lol

  • @XjmedX

    "The debate is over only in the minds of atheists."

    That's kind of a moot point since the so called debate EXISTS only in the mind of creationists. Kinda like their big bad sky daddy...

    Just because you don't want to believe evolutionary theory doesn't mean it's not true. I agree that the implications of evolution aren't as cozy and comfortable as the delusional belief in a sky daddy who's gonna right all the wrongs in the world...but that's where growing the fuck up comes in.

  • @solusdiver BTW, I can assertain by your comments that you are totally ignorant about what the Bible truly teaches. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. Same logic there for you.

  • @XjmedX Please...I've read the bible and its history extensively. That's why I know it is a collection of myths from different civilizations, and not a historical record or the 'word of god'. You, on the other hand, just go on what others tell you and you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

    That's the only attraction for religion...someone else does your thinking for you.

  • I challenge any Christians to name a SINGLE right to worship God that I as an atheist have tried to strip from you.

    All the Churches in my old neighborhood are still there (albeit half-empty every single Sunday).

    As for Ray, spend 45 seconds of your life inside a science museum and you'll see fucking transitional fossils. Use the Wiki and look up Homo habilis and Homo erectus.

    Since you mentioned dogs, elephants and giraffes, Wiki Candiae, Elephantidae, and Giraffidae.

    Dumb shit...

  • I'ma evil athiest

  • Uh, so wait, the female has to evolve separately from the male, and then they meet up later? This guy is so far off he is not even wrong.

    The fun part is that even Ray know he is lying.

  • @phaxad Fossils prove that something lived in the past. You and Hovind can't explain them so you discount them. Most of the species that ever lived are extinct. No dinosaurs, no trilobites, no Neaderthals, no sabertooth tigers, etc.

  • The picture at 16 seconds really sums it up--- crationist's wrong idea of what evolution is.

  • The major gap between ray's idea of what evolution is and what it actually is, is so staggering that it's hard to believe he isn't lying.. the sad part: I don't think he is lying, I think he's really that ignorant of the theory.

  • Ray is one big argument from ignorance.

  • *college

  • Ray is dumb. My major is bio anthropology and my minor is zoology.

    I am on my 4th year in collage next year. No one in the field of "darwinian" evolution believes everything came from nothing. Evolution tells us the opposite in fact. It tells us all life splintered off from previous organisms and life forms.

    So we do blieve everything came from something. Is he stupid?

  • I love how he thinks male and female species evolved separately. Oh and eyes evolved after dogs. What a pea brain.

  • Watch video entitled "GOD'S PRISON" to see what awaits us all after death.

  • Ray you idiot....!! you need to study evolution of sex as well. you dumb ass you dont knw a shit about evolution and have the audacity to discredit it, that epic moronaty right thr. dogs didnt just Evolve and started searchin for female dog, WTF!! thr were species that didnt need sex for reproduction but to survive better against bacteria & viruses, species had to mix their genes with others so over a gRRRTTTT period of time they sex organs evolved. then came yur male/female.*facepalm*

  • Atheism is not a belief... these hosts dont their homework. *facepalm* overall i liked the show :)

  • Atheism is not a belief... these hosts dont their homework. *facepalm*

  • its like he thinks a dinosaur just one day shit a dog

  • I bet banana man wouldn't like it if the government told him that he had to teach the Qur'an in his church.

  • So it makes *more* sense that a man in the sky created every animal as they are today, provided man, woman, children on the earth than species gradually grew into what they are now? How can he stand to say such things. :S

  • This is the first time I heard Ray lose at his own game

  • @Godusesamac Are you disappointed it wasn't the other way around? ...as it usually is.

  • Ray Comfort is so scientifically and logically stupid I can't even justify his statement with a response.

  • As a Theist, Thom Hartmann can and DID rip into Ray Comfort more than any atheist I've ever seen, I suppose because atheist have to tip-toe to not come across as rude.

  • Ray Comfort is such a sexist, assuming that the first dog etc. was a male.

  • @assym2006 and you think this would change his mind? Remember "teleevangelists" are in it for the money! They don't care if it's true or not...

  • @Godusesamac How was he rude? He needed to interrupt in order to actually discuss the issues (as opposed to listening to Comfort give a long speech full of talking points).

  • @Godusesamac In what way was Comfort treated like snot? There was not a single personal attack, and the host didn't take a condescending tone. Also, there's a difference between not letting someone talk and not letting someone move on to another point before discussing the previous one.

    You don't have to be an atheist to object to Comfort's opposition to the separation of church/state or his gross misunderstanding of evolution (tip: big bang has nothing to do with evolution).

  • It just astounds me how it could even be possible to attempt to have an educated discussion about childish make believe. Imagine spending your entire career and personal life in the belief and pursuit of the Tooth Fairy and defending it from any contradicting logic or simple rational thought. Now Imagine the awakening in that you were so simple minded as to be duped in this way. It is an admission of your fear and stupidity and must be guarded at all cost.

  • It is a lie that Atheists are hoisting their agenda upon Christians. In fact, just the opposite is true. We have endured religious teachings in our public schools for hundreds of years, an institution, as Mr. Hartmann says, that is no place for religion. Believe whatever you like in your church of choice; it is my choice not to believe and that is something Christians cannot tolerate. It is not the other way around.

  • Ray Comfort says there is no transitional forms? WTF? There are lots of them! a nice one that comes to mind is Archaeopteryx, which we've found many fossils of, and is a clear example of an reptile to avian transition. FFS one of the biggest Wikipedia pages I've ever seen lays out transitional fossils we've found for every type of animal on the damn planet! There couldn't be more evidence for evolution, yet these lunatics ignore it all and sad thing is they LIE about not knowing lol.

  • Great listening. Thanks.

  • @peraspira you're welcome! I am thinking about doing a couple more of these type of videos. Thom has some crazy guests on sometimes.

  • 5.36 ready for kirk camerons cock

  • Bahahahaha. He gets destroyed. Ray Comfort is an absolute fucking moron.

  • @pobri19 He is making a fortune with his "ministry".

  • Comfort is a media freak.

    His ideas are childish and senseless against the opposing evidence.

    His "stumbling block" is his ego, thinking whatever he "believes" must be riight.

    If the world only worked that way....

  • WHAT A FUCKING MORON

    Comfort clearly shows he knows nothing about biology. The fact the he is pejoratively called The Banana Man just shows the inanity of his arguments. He is horrible.

  • Hitler was a catholic, not a Christian. Apparently this dopey interview hasn't heard of the Blue Book Speller and the McGuffey Reader. The schools in early America were run by Christian churches. I'm surprised he even knew we're supposed to be a republick.

  • That's not the whole name of darwin's dopey book. "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." Darwin was a racist. So much for the hero of efoolution.

  • @filoIII so what? even if darwin was a pedophile nobody would care since he made his great scientific contribution and that is what matters not what kind of person he was.

  • @Quiestre A great scientific contribution?????? He made an observation about birds w/ different sized beaks. You do realize darwin wasn't a scientist, don't you?

  • @filoIII well without him we wouldnt understand evolution as good as we do today. so i guess your pethetic troll attempt "he made an observation about birds" is dismissed. and you do realize that you are making a complete tool out of yourself by stating that he wasnt a scientist. sheesh creationists these days

  • @Quiest Gregor Mendel was a true scientist. Darwin's and Mendel's works contradict each other. Darwin taught that there were no limits to biological variation and that, if given enough time, a fish could evolve into a human being. Mendel, on the other hand, showed that there are natural limits to biological variations. Variations within biological kinds (such as varieties of dogs, cats, horses, cows, etc.) are possible but not variations across biological kinds. What kind of scientist was Chuck?

  • @filoIII oh those "kinds" again. okay tell me what kinds are there? can you define what a kind is? I recommend watching AronRa's latest video on that matter he asks the "kind" question in much more detail than i ever could given the 500 character limit and of course my limitied knowledge on species and categorization. But I guess you know better than me and can teach me the "Kinds".

  • @Quiestre I recommend any and all things AronRa! Guy's a fucking badass.

  • @Quiestre You should be EXTREMELY embarrased. I am for you. A five year old can point out which is different between a wolf, chihuahua, great dane, and an anchovy. Kinds of dogs and a kind of fish. You're proof of the deliberate dumbing down of amerika. Congrats!

  • @filoIII so is a bear a dog or a bear or something else? is a monkey an ape ? is a salt water fish a fresh water fish, is a rat a mouse? is a bat a mouse? is a tiger a lion? i mean not literal but what kind is it? is a lemure a monkey? is a dolphine a wale? and so on. and im not from america. Seriously watch that video watch?v=_r0zpk0lPFU he deals with it in much greated detail.

  • @Quiestre A bear is a bear. Not a dog. And you don't even see how silly it is to suggest otherwise. So easy a five year old can tell the difference but Quiestre can't. You've been duped. Satan has you right where he wants you.

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  • @filoIII Dude, really! Your childish naive worldview of how things are is just rediculus. "A five year old can tell that a bear is a bear". A f-ing 5 year old has no f-ing understanding about species. Of course he would suggest that a bear is a "bear-kind" because he doenst know! He is ignorant, just like you. We KNOW that bears are related to dogs, and dogs are related to foxes and wolves. Man how can anyone be so happy with beeing so ignorant and naive?!

  • @filoIII About "A bear is a bear". So are brown bears related to polar bears? Are Pandas related to black bears? and so on. Again, how do you define a Kind? are they all the same Kind called Bear? and if so does it mean that the same kind can interbred with each other or not? here check this out:Scientific classification

    Kingdom Animalia

    Phylum Chordata

    Class Mammalia

    Order Carnivora

    Suborder Caniformia

    Family Ursidae

    This is what bears are, so are they realted to all other same animals?

  • @filoIII Bears are Suborder Caniformia: so are racoons, sea lions, dogs wolves and foxes, red pandas, skunks, weasels, walruses and seals. Are they all a seperate "kind" ? so what Kind are skunks then? or red pandas, are they bears? are they pandas or are they just red panads. If you ask a 5 year old, who has never seen a red panda befor but maybe racoons, what do you expect him to tell you what "kind" the red panda is? he would probably tell you it looks like a red racoon or a cat or so.

  • @filoIII There are also subclasses of bears like: Ailuropoda, Helarctos, Melursus, Ursus, Tremarctos and several exstinct groups.

    Ailuropeda are Giant Pandas and some exstinct ones. Other pandas

    Formerly, the red, or lesser, panda (Ailurus fulgens) was considered closely related to giant pandas. It is not considered a bear, however, and is now classified as the sole living representative of a different carnivore family (Ailuridae).

  • Excellent interviewer, just give idiots like comfort enough time and he will hang himself. Also, when he went on his "60 seconds" about animals breeding with the right species, try Genesis 2: 19 +, ....god " offered Adam all the beasts of the ground and fowl of the air to mate with, but Adam couldn't find a mate" DUH!. Mind you, a blowjob off a penguin might've lessened the stress.

    What did he say?, "distant sister?, what an arse.

  • Ray is a complete fucktard.

  • @airbrat although you have to give him some credit.. he manages to make a hell of a lot of money out of being a complete and utter tit.

  • the first cells were asexual

  • ray comfort jsut said bacteria is not a lifeform

  • Ray wheels out this blind dog analogy like it's a showstopper. Like in 60 seconds he can undo the work of two hundred years of hundreds of thousands of scientists, by completely misinterpreting and ignoring just how these things happen every day how they are happening right now. What's worst is he makes a comfortable living doing this...

  • A female had to evolve into a dog at the same time and be compatible and want to mate... uh, what???

    No WONDER he doesn't believe in Evolution.... he doesn't know the first thing about it. Facepalm.

  • but christians want to push their beliefs on us.

    what about 4-legged mammal to whales, we have that proof.

    eyes evolved before man. and what about species that dont have eyes, they survive.

  • ray comfort is right on the money on this issue. And no amount of evo-babble from the uninformed (like those below) is going to change what is true. Even those below with their uninformed comments, who really are the closest thing we have to making the case that everything evolved from nothing, despite the vacuum between their right ears and left filled with fluff, still can't change what is true. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth...

  • @shopper292 " In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth..."

    Uh huh..... American are we? Just guessing. LOL

  • @shopper292 Preach on, Shopper292! Attack the people, instead of engaging the flaws in their message! Denigrate them! Belittle them like a good Christian! Feel threatened much?

  • ray comfort is right on the money on this issue. And no amount of evo-babble from the uninformed (like those below) is going to change what is true. Even those below with their uninformed comments, who really are the closet thing we have to making the case that everything evolved from nothing, despite the vacuum between their right ears and left filled with fluff, still can't change what is true. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth...

  • I just can't face palm hard enough. I'm using both hands, but it just isn't enough.

  • too painful to watch, stopped at 1:56

  • @oliverjre The funniest parts come after 6:00

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  • NO NO NO BACTERIA??????FUCK DAT I WANT APES!!!!!!!!!!.....Ignorance there is nothing more funny.O wait, Ray comfort.

  • Can someone tell him how evolution actually works

  • comfort is no threat. that shit falls apart all on its own.

  • Why do people give Ray air time? He either doesn't or won't understand the theory of evolution. If he would first make clear that he understands the theory, then I would happily listen to him try to refute it. This cra* is why Dawkins won't debate creationists.

  • Loooool you idiots, Ray Comfort is an atheist trying to make Christians look bad!

  • @AziMeX That's exactly what I've been telling people since I first saw a video with him.

  • Ray cumfort can be disproven simply by showing him a money basket from church.

  • @TheSidney1961 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! so true

  • I don't have anything against Americans, but I can't help but to pity Ray Comfort, that believes there is some kind of relation between religion and state. "God bless America" is one of the most fallacious sentences ever said, because a) god may not exist; b) if he exists, who knows what the §%/" he blesses anyway?

    So, this idea that Americans have a god given right to worship is offensive in political, legal and even religious terms (as americans are not better nor worse that any other peoples)

  • Oh wow, the dumb it hurts. Some of his comments and ideas are so dumb I honestly think its a hoax sometimes

  • His "summary" of evolution is so absolutely ridiculous that it's proof he has literally no idea what he is talking about. That "60 second pitch" is proof that this guy is a class-a imbecile who should have no credibility at all when it comes to evolution, and science in general.

  • Ray Comfort is the king of idiots. He cannot imagine that people smarter than him exist. He cannot image that people with scientific training might know more than him. He drinks his own Kool-Aid and calls it truth.

  • I swer, from the moment he started yacking about dogs to the Caim story I just laughed. Untill then I was just sorry.

  • God given rights? WTF

    Evolution is not real? WTF

    Hypocrits can destroy religion? WTF

  • Listening to Ray Comfort makes my brain bleed in protest.

  • 10% population atheist

    10% homosexual

    atheists are homosexuals

  • @retrofitable 52% of all americans voted barrack obama. 52% of the people in amerika are females, acording to your logic that means that all woman voted barrack and all males did not. Hmm, Hmmm. Btw i saw your other comments on other videos none had real arguments or any supportive evidense. your one of the most retarded kind of christians that walk this earth =) Cheers for your ingnorance ^^

  • @lucasvandam im not a christian. You are obviously a cocksucker

  • @retrofitable lol if u call atheists homosexuals u are either gay or your religious, since most internet people who believe fairly tales are christians it is most likely for me to assume that u are a christian. (most muslims are poor and live in the desert with no internet) See ya bitch

  • @retrofitable you're retarded.

  • Animals evolve too, there ARE millions of transitional forms, we have only found a few human transitional forms Lucy included.

  • When are we going to just learn to ignore this fucking moron?

  • I like the way in Ray's world, men and women are different species.

  • Lol, our God given rights :D haha

  • Ray, All i can say is when youre talking to people whose hearts are hard and like the bible says have ears but cant hear, and eyes but cant see, all u can do is leave it in the hands of God. Put the truth out there and move on. A stubborn arrogant know it all man who doesnt want to hear the truth but defends a fairytale. So quick to defend evolution but even quicker to deny to creator. The sadest thing is, the very claim they make about us-blind faith...they themselves also do. Blind faith.

  • @tWaytTruthtLife Evolution is NOT blind faith, it is supported by TONS of evidence, unlike your religion. All you have to do is get off your lazy ass and look at it. Which obviously you have not. Talking out of your ass about something you obviously haven't spent a single second studying, makes you look like a proper idiot.

    "A stubborn arrogant know it all man who doesnt want to hear the truth but defends a fairytale." - I couldnt describe delusional creationists better. Nice one ;)

  • @SuperDuperAtheist Is that why it's called the THEORY of evolution and not the LAW of evolution? Wake up!

  • @rifftheref Correct. The theory of evolution, supported by real tangible evidence. Unlike the theory of an angry, vengeful, jealous, murderous, deceitful, wrathful delusion you call god, supported by....nothing.

    I'm wide awake I assure you.

  • @rifftheref

    learn what the word theory means spastic.

  • @rifftheref

    You mean why its called the THEORY of germs and not the LAW of germs?

    Guess you shouldn't be a hypocrite and use modern medicine, since a lot of that stuff works on the cellular level, and its also called the cellular THEORY.

    So next time you get sick, call your voodoo witch doctor, not your medical doctor.

  • he doesn't know how evolution works at all lol

  • non thinking atheist?? sounds like a contradictory statement

  • Ray Cumfart, lol!

  • I've heard Ray giving that childishly silly straw man explanation of "What evolutionists believe" on public TV so many times.

    You'd think someone would tell him what an utter moron he is, and explain to him why he is......

  • ray promotes have sex with relatives

  • an explosion brings forth order and carefully arranged ecosystem(alright) how can this explosion, gases etc, inject "LIFE" into all living things? Life, meaning, not simply the ability to move, but the experience of existing with purpose and self awareness of such existance?

  • @cuzcatlan36 millions of years of progressive change can bring simple things into complexity.

  • @stoltobot millions of years do not change the basic structure of what was created. In all of recorded human history no "transition" has been observed( not even by an inch) Human beings keep bringing forth after their own kind, just as animals do. Explosions still do not instill life, give life or create life. Explosions destroy or re-arrange matter, that's as far as it goes.

  • @cuzcatlan36 who said explosions would instill life...that silly everyone knows it was an invisible man in the sky that did it all in 6 days,then made people from dirt.And everything was perfect till that talking snake messed it all up.Funny that a guy that can see the future wouldn't have seen that coming.

    It's good to know that if you him telepathically that you love him he will save you from a place that he created to torture you if you don't...but he loves you.

  • @alltiedup217 one-two-three-four-five-six-se­ven-eight-nine-ten-eleven-twel­ve

  • @cuzcatlan36 WOW what an incredibly well thought out and lucid,insightful rebuttal.I find it hard to believe that no one has put forth this argument before.1-12 brilliant,would you mind if I used this from time to time...it was one to 12 right?no need to go over brd and count to 13 is there..that would be over kill.

  • @alltiedup217 there will not be a 13, after 12 you will have expired your last breath and the speaking snake will have you for all eternity. eyes go dark, evolution no longer seems to be relevant, sarcasm or ridicule, now is you confronting something you did not believe in, yet very real. death came and won, after that, judgement. Don't worry, you don't believe in God, so you're ok.....or are you?

  • @cuzcatlan36 after death?????"man If I had a dollar for everytime I have had some chistard try to scare me with hell.Are you afraid of going to muslim hell? im not afraid of yours for the same reasons...its silly.Most biblical scholars think hell is a metaphor and they know more about the bible than you.Go back and hide under your bed.funny how many christains say god gives them comfort but in the same breath thye do everything they can to avoid death.Why ??dont ya wanna go to heaven

  • @alltiedup217 hopefully you would become scare of what is coming. death is certain, you are 99% sure you are correct in your believes, however, that 1% of uncertainty(because you haven't experienced death yet)could be the biggest, most significant moment( a terrifying moment) ever. Eternity will come at you wether you believe it or not, and so far, you're not ready!

  • @cuzcatlan36 sounds like your not ready..you picked one religion ,one that you clearly dont know that much about..I dont think your even 99% sure.What if its one of the other gods out there?then you will have offended them by worshiping the wrong god.So off to hell you go.What if you have the wrong sect of your religion?what if the mormons are right or the catholics?if you dont get your last rights off to hell with ya.your the one that sounds scared.

  • @alltiedup217 is not religion that saves you, it is a person, Jesus. Believe me, I got the right one. No other God except Elohim, Emmanuel, Jesus(one God) 100% sure. Because it is His salvation, what He did, what He promised I am 100% sure of the salvation I have accepted is eternal.

  • @cuzcatlan36 funny thats what alll the other people say as well.Emmauel...funny that NO ONE calls him that at anytime in the bible.not to mention the whole story is plagerized.Your not 100% sure at all.you can tell i nthe way you get so frustrated by fact I don take your hell threat seriously.You take so much joy in telling people they are going to hell.trying to scare then no wonder you get so pissed off when somone can laugh in your face about your silly child like threat.

  • @alltiedup217 you need to actually read the bible to know what you're talking about. "threat' no threat. I can't threaten you with something that is not of my making or can help in any way, neither am I upset about any comment. A comment is just that, a comment. Death will come to both of us, you think that will be the end for you, good luck with that. I have already made my preparations for what I know is coming after death.

  • @cuzcatlan36 LOLI can't threaten you with something that is not of my making but ya did LOL hopefully you would become scare of what is coming. sound like a threat ta me as well as being nasty why would you wish that someone would be scared?just another theist that is only moral for fear of punishment and promise of reward.You keep say things like " you know"if you really did know what was coming after death and you know theres a god...why do you need faith?

  • @alltiedup217 Again, whatever "threat" you may perceive in my words is not so, it is simply calling death exactly what it is, a doorway into the next part of our existance. Neither you or I can help that. You will die, and your soul will be judged and you will dwell in one of the two places, with or without God. your choice.

  • @cuzcatlan36 How are you so sure there is an afterlife? No one has ever come back from the dead and told us about it, so there is no way of knowing. What we know in this life is that the brain activity is responsible for producing this eerie, conscious identity, the self. What reason or evidence do you have to support the claim that once the brain dies, the self survives, and what are the properties of that self beyond brain death?

  • @Ledwix How am I sure? Several factors: I believe the God of the Bible-I can see human beings are more than just flesh-history shows us humanity has had contacts with what we label "ghosts"(hunted houses etc) proof that a "non physical world exists" therefore, God(a spirit) exists. When I look into the eyes of a baby, I know there is life inside that baby that is beyond physical. The connection that some twins, mothers and loved ones have had even when not together physically, and my own life.

  • @cuzcatlan36 Belief in the Bible is faith, not justification. There is certainly something strange about matter being conscious that seems to transcend the flesh or brain, but that doesn't mean that the god of the Bible is the explanation. Even if ghosts exist (which they probably don't; by the same standards of evidence you'd have to believe in goblins, psychics, witches, alien abductions, astrology, fairies, etc.) it doesn't prove anything about the creator of the universe's properties.

  • Overall, subjective consciousness is an eerie, mysterious sensation we are still trying to grasp mechanically. We may never understand its properties fully. But to ascribe it to your particular set of religious beliefs isn't a valid conclusion. Consciousness doesn't prove that we survive our own deaths, because there is no evidence of an afterlife, only mere speculation. It only proves that we are conscious. Why can't our experiences end if they started?

  • @Ledwix God gives faith, it belongs to Him, but we respond to it and make it part of our lives. What I read in the Bible I get to see and experience in real life. I see the sun everyday and marvel at the precise location of it in refence to the earth, also the moon, and say to myself: "There is no way, such strategic placing of a star like the sun in proximity to the earth came about out of sheer chance!!" The odds of that resulting from an explosion are astronomical!!

  • @cuzcatlan36 LOL well maybe you should look at the data from kepler there are tons on planets in the right place from there star.but let say the odd are astronomical.so far49 habitable zone candidates approximately 1/400 of the sky.Just because you don't understand something (clearly the case here)Does not make god the default answer.Try to fill the gaps in your knowledge with knowledge not magic.

  • @alltiedup217 I already have, I have looked at the source of everything, the genesis of life and creation, and it amazes me. God is truely the source of knowledge and power.

  • @cuzcatlan36 your a very simple minded person.enjoy your delusion.

  • @Ledwix God gives faith, it belongs to Him, but we respond to it and make it part of our lives. What I read in the Bible I get to see and experience in real life. I see the sun everyday and marvel at the precise location of it in refence to the earth, also the moon, and say to myself: "There is no way, such strategic placing of a star like the sun in proximity to the earth came about out of sheer chance!!" The odds of that resulting from an explosion are astronomical!!