The Mystery of our Declining Genes Dr John Sanford

[SuLLyZorZ]

He throws alot of words around, but doesn't actually explain anything. The theory can be falsified using logic, and an experimental approach... video ends O.o

Thumbs down for this vid.

[benthemiester]

Great video. This guy is a genius. As well as being a great scientist and prolific inventor, on top of that a nice guy who responded to my email in less that 24 hours.

[indibabs122275]

nice! i have been having this argument alot lately. being a microbiology , biology and chemistry student, again, i am fascinated with these fields, but also seeing lloyd pye's series that proves those hominids were NOT our ancestors, its just amazing. thanks for this upload. i think we are going to have a huge reveal, they are going to try to build us up to the alien idea since the world is finally realizing evolution for humans was total BULLCHIT.

[sarevor]

Genetic Entropy is scientific fact.

[NateWardawg]

1 Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh...

I'm so happy the Bible doesn't say that God hasn't called "any" wise but instead says that he hasn't called "many" wise. :)

[Howie47]

Obvious Darwinians don't want the actual science that says this is true. And their is plenty. Animal and plant breeders have know for hundreds of years, that their stock must be revitalized by importing, new stock. From an out side source. The only other source would be mutation, and experiment after experiment shows mutation isn't adding sufficient alleles, to isolated populations to sustain vitalization. Man's genes needs revitalization not to reach it's fulfillment of offspring!

[BereanBeacon1]

@Howie47 Pure breed dogs can be very unstable. Do you suppose evolutionists need to travel more LOL.

[Howie47]

@BereanBeacon1 Yea, they need to get out more. The world is passing them by. Cheetahs are all almost clones! They sure haven't evolved since they were depicted in Egyptian art.

[Howie47]

@Howie47 "Mutation is the ultimate source of genetic variation, preventing populations from becoming genetically homogeneous in situations where they otherwise would.""given enough time, any finite population will eventually become homozygous through drift -Indeed mathematical models show that a neutral allele arising by mutation has a very low probability of becoming fixed in a population;" plato.stanford.edu/entries/pop­ulation-genetics/ In other words, no evolution is happening!

[TheScienceFoundation]

Genetic entropy is garbage because it specifically ignores the fact that there are processes which add useful information such as novel function to genomes and that the selection factors regarding this new information are not random.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation Pure freaking rubbish . Everything in this dimension is subject to entropy, it a freaking scientific LAW. Dr Sanford is a professional geneticist, what are your qualifications besides being a shill with way too much time on your hands.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn The energy in ever isolated system tends towards entropy, thats physics, not biology so it has to do with usable energy in general, not organic systems specifically.

[EdjeBos]

@TheScienceFoundation You guys just ignore the big picture every time you can, don't you? Let's stick to biology then. Everything biological is (also) made up of matter and energy. What happens in a compost heap? Why does everything that lives die? Have a true understanding of the destructive effect of sunlight on anything? Even shielded with a magnetic forcefield and an atmosphere? Everybody knows everything in this universe is winding down. Everybody but you, that is..

[kvash3154]

@TheScienceFoundation interesting name. Are you a scientist? Do you have any scientific publications in peer reviewed journals? You sound very "official" by your name, but how do we know that your not just some body who just wants people to believe that?

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation entropy goes way beyond thermodynamics. it's one of the most observed phenomena in the universe. all systems are subject to a journey toward chaos and disorganization and degradation and death. there is no caveat.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn No it really doesn't. Entropy is the measure of energy in a system unavailable to do physical work. As long as usable energy is added to a system (see; the sun) entropy does not increase.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation yes it does. just because you choose to narrowly define it doesn't diminish the scope of entropy. It's an observed scientific LAW. you haven't actually studied science have you ? either that or you are, again, just a shill. Here's a lesson for you, All systems drift toward chaos and degradation. arguing that point just makes you look ridiculous.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn That's not my definition, that's the definition used in physics. The only lesson to learn here is that you have something against educating yourself in actual physics.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation name the process. Dawkins can't. what do you know that Dawkins doesn't

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn I already have, as long as usable energy is added to a system, entropy does not increase.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation no you haven't. Surely, if science has discovered the process by which information is added to the genome, it would have a technical name. Like mitosis or meiosis... tell me the name.

So are you saying that if i put gas in my car, it will not be subject to entropy ? If I eat food will that prevent me from getting old and gray. ?? If I plug my computer into a power source, are you saying it won't wear out ??

You totally make me laugh

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn Gene duplication. If one gene contains information then a duplication of this gene must necessarily constitute a net gain in the quantity of information.

Again you're skewing the definition of entropy, entropy is a measure of energy in a system unable to do physical work, it's not aging or wear and tear on electronics.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation It (entropy) determines that thermal energy always flows spontaneously from regions of higher temperature to regions of lower temperature, in the form of heat. These processes reduce the state of order of the initial systems, and therefore entropy is an expression of disorder or randomness.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn Yes in an isolated system overall the entropy will increase, this does not mean that entropy cannot decrease.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation "Entropy is the only quantity in the physical sciences that seems to imply a particular direction of progress, sometimes called an arrow of time. As time progresses, the second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated system never decreases. Hence, from this perspective, entropy measurement is thought of as a kind of clock.

[edit] The fundamental thermodynamic relation"

Things get old and head for disorder - entropy

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn No, once again energy becoming unable to do physical work - entropy

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation and leading to disorder. are you disputing the information on wikipedia ?

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation redundancy is not new information. Shannon's theory of info only takes one minor aspect of info into account. it does not consider apobetics, semantics, syntax, or pragmatics. Redundancy is just noise. Gene duplication is by no means new information, just noise

How much information is in the alphabet ? None. you could fill encyclopedias with it and it still contains no information. It might weigh 5 tons, but it contains zero information. information is meaning

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn Redundancy increases the net quantity of information that other genetic processes have to work with. If gene duplication is noise, then so too is the initial expressed gene. Once a gene duplicates, one copy maintains original function while the other is free to mutate and take on new function and by definition, express new information.

In information theory, information is a set of distinguishing characteristics of a system, meaning is applied after the fact.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation Information IS meaning. you obviously don't know what your talking about. just like you don't know what your talking about in denying the assumptions of ALL dating methods.

Mutation is always destruction of information- there is no caveat. even if it produces a benefit, it still is destruction of information. cave fish that develop "eyelessness" is a benefit in that environment, but if it gets into the "real world", it is a distinct disadvantage.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@biggbaddjohn No, meaning can be applied to information, information itself is defined as distinguishing characteristics of a system. There are no assumptions in dating methods, understanding radiometric dating isn't assuming anything.

'Mutation is always destruction of information

The nylon bug completely destroys this claim, its a new function derived from an alternate framereading of a duplicate gene, even if the entire gene is changed/destroyed the original still conserves function.

[biggbaddjohn]

@TheScienceFoundation you are absolutely clueless. you know ZERO about information. just enough to make you look very foolish

and you're a liar. I PMd this article to you yesterday

news.discovery(.)com/space/is-­the-sun-emitting-a-mystery-par­ticle.html

every measuring method involves assumptions

nylon bug ? I assume you are referring to nylonase bacteria. What was it when it started out ? a bacteria. what was it after the mutation, a bacteria. adaptation is not evolution

[noelplum99]

What exactly was the point of this video? it consisted of a guy saying he had a great piee of evidence and then never giving us the evidence!!! i mean i know you are a man of faith bereanbeacon but personally I like to actually here the argument itself!

[KnowledgeAddicted]

is there anywhere long vid with john sanford?

[BereanBeacon1]

@KnowledgeAddicted Perhaps on their website.

[ThePrayerHotline]

I was hoping they would give the answer on this video. I wonder why they didn't explain "mendels accountant" a little bit more?

[BereanBeacon1]

@ThePrayerHotline I was going to do a search for it.