oh what proof? have you seen the ICTY hearing? there was no proof shown and gotovina will be soon released. Its sad how you keep saying oh war criminal war criminal while you canadians did not allow jewish refugees before the second world war and sent them to germany to their deaths. Oh did i forget Canadian soldiers that raped 14 year old girls in afghanistan, oh because they are canadian and peace loving they cant be war criminals haha
Arbih/hrvati -> serbs and all their jna weapons killing ppl for years then when they had chance to show how strong they were against a real army they fled like headless chickens
Firstly Gotovina has not been proven guilty nor any evidence shown in the court supported that indictment. Only by malicious and preposterous statements by the so called UN peackeeprs which later proved to be false in the courts if you have followed it. If you did not which is the case,, you have no right in commenting on this matter boy
Yes because expelling 200,000 from their homes, and then lighting their homes on fire is really only a war crime if there's a peice of paper that says that you ordered that to happen.
Fuck Gotovina, Tudjman, Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic, Izetbegovic, Silajdzic, Dietrich, Clinton, Clark, Albright, etc. And most of all FUCK YOU for thinking that any one of them is not guilty.
clearly this whole fucking blog is biased because all the bullshit comments get thumbs up and the sane, truthful comments get thumbs down. I know general leslie will be acquited because hes a million times the man you'll ever be spanonski. Ooooh look at me, I'm spanonski and I'm so tough sitting at my computer bashing the general because I'm threatened because he's more of a man than I'll ever be....grow the fuck up!!!
Not to mention the fact that the good general is innocent. You say there's no proof he's innocent but at the same time there's no solid proof he's guilty. And if you knew anything about our legal system you'd know that you DO NOT have to "prove" innocence for someone to be innocent, you just have to prove "reasonable doubt of guilt." A "balance of probabilities" if you will.
Way to show us what a wonderful person you are. Yeah, fuck Canada and everyone else who dares talk about the war crimes we committed! We are only intersted in Serb war crimes because those are the only ones that matter. Our war criminals are heroes!
We were soilders you canadian fuck while you and your little canidens motherfuckers and your small little un peackeepers were drinking with the enemy in croatia and in bosnia while civilians were being murdered and your fucking peacekeepers were hiding in your fucking fox holes. What right do you have since you have not even fucking been to that war or let alone any other war.
And second i studied law in that fucking country of yours. So do not question me boy.
spanonski post some videos about the forged documents and lying witnesses in Seselj's trial, or maybe a few videos of Ustase collaboration with Vatican, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Maybe a video about Jasenovac, or Celibici.
Oh wait, no those things probably are just myths because they're on your side. I get it.
WTF are you're talknig about? The trial is still going on and will last at least 2 more years.There is no proof that Leslie is innocent,but he is contradicting himself which to me says he's probably lying.The people are complaining about him not beeing a credible witness.
@Donnieosmond if he was innocent then why would his own soldier admit in receiving an email asking him to do him a ''favour?'' You htink the favour was so grab him a case of beer on the way home? This Hague tribunal is a puppet show and it was proven the other day when the defender was found just as guilty as the aggressor. If he was so innocent then why would the court throw him out and discredit his testimony? America and NATO bombs miss their targets and kill civilians in their campaigns
@Donnieosmond what they should investigate is why did he lie and want to dig and fog up evidence to discredit the Croatian army in defending their own land and people in their own country. You are against Canadian values and everything that stands for democracy. I know you mean well but unfortunately you are misinformed. Please investigate further.
Un general lewis mackenzie also seems to take the serb side, he even goes to serb picnics....i wonder if his opinions were bias as well and fabricated to appease serb interests. The truth will eventually surface no matter what.... its starting to right now and thank God almighty for it.
maybe he was misinformed.... maybe someone else whom he trusted relayed him false information. Who knows but I hope God will just allow truth and justice to prevail. Amen!
I am proud to be a Canadian and I am a taxpaying law obiding citizen. I never collected a welfare cheque nor an UI checque. I use to be proud to be a Canadian until your rain of dishonesty infested the former Yugoslavia. Have you frogotten the serbs who handcuffed OUR troops to poles in order to prevent NATO bombings? Have you forgotten the Dutch peacekeepers the serbs kidnapped? Who's side are you on? Croatians did nothing but take back what was theirs.
You were the main reason why I did not want to join the Canadian forces. Did you forget the serbs who handcuffed OUR troops to poles in hope 2 prevent NATO bombing??? What did Croatians do to you?
General Andrew Leslie you have ruined the integrity of Canada. You should be ashamed and stripped from your medals. Yo should be on trial and an inquiry should goout and find out why you lied and check all your bank accounts to see if you were bribed. Croatians know you collaborated with serbs. Only time will tell until they can prove that. You should come out clean and justtell the truth.
Bravo to the defence!!!! Excellent job and I am exctatic that his reputation has now been tarnished and rightfully so, as the evidence suggests. He should also be in trial for lying. I like the fact the the court has nowmade him to "shut up". Well done. Maybe this international court is not as bias as I once thought.
As a Canadian Croatian citizen I am ashamed to say I am Canadian in Croatia. My cousins serbed bravely in the army and they told me that serbs collaborated with the UN where the UN passed vital information to the serbs on how the Croatian troops were moving and attacking. The Canadian troops even attacked Croatian forces killing several soldiers. What fustrates me is that why woudl such a credible general do such a thing? Why would he lie? People do not realize that that same region
L-Gen Andrew B. Leslie is a very very highly decorated General who is an oustandingly charismatic and inteligent man who is Innocent(end of story) - thats why he has not been courtmarsheled by the CDS and JAG...He was simply a witness...to the war crimes that the retired General was accused of. Weahter these acusations were tru or not is not L-Gen Adnrew Leslie's Problem. In his educated and experianced military opinion the general at the time who was in charge was commiting war crimes.
Gen. Keslie coulnd't see shit,cause no UN personel was permited to go to the area.Only US officials were there together with the Croatian army.General Govotina is only accused of "unselective" shelling of that town which is proven wrong by other UN observers.So i don't know what Gen.Leslie's intentions were,but he's full of crap.
you my friend are gravely misinformed and dillusional...my cousins who fought in the war can provide you with 1st hand information and evidence that can prove you wrong and make you look just as stupid as he looked on the witnessed stand.
the canadian is big liar, truth will come out of friendship with serb terrorists, and his regular evenings with serb prostitutes, i was in croatian army from 1991-99 and during oluja majority serbs fled before we come, only old people stay, what he say is wrong not true! Gotovina is innocent!!!!!!
What I don't understand is how, in light of this blatent disregard for the truth has this man not been stripped of his title, and indeed been courtmartialed. My compatriot stated it aptly below....his comments and recanting of events are not suprising given what the world outside of Canada knows of Lewis Mckenzie.
the serb forces probably had solders firing from civilian objects so the Croatians war shutting on those houses or what ewer objects.this happened in bombing of Yugoslavia to,they had radars in the schools and some hospitals to so they claimed that the NATO was bombing civilians
Is Gen Leslie now going to ask the judges to overlook his blatant prejudice & less than honest conduct in Croatia? He has amnesty what does he care!
ON WHOSE ORDERS did gen. Lesly instigate this SHAMEFUL fabrication of dirty "EVIDENCE" against HONOURABLE Croatians involved in the Operation Storm & WHAT ELSE?
Was it one or more of those "honourable" men who granted themselves amnesty from prosecution by ICTY?
A CRIME IS A CRIME NO MATTER PEDIGREE OF THE PREPARTRATOR
oh what proof? have you seen the ICTY hearing? there was no proof shown and gotovina will be soon released. Its sad how you keep saying oh war criminal war criminal while you canadians did not allow jewish refugees before the second world war and sent them to germany to their deaths. Oh did i forget Canadian soldiers that raped 14 year old girls in afghanistan, oh because they are canadian and peace loving they cant be war criminals haha
SVEJENASE13 1 year ago
the war only showed who the best fighters were
Arbih/hrvati -> serbs and all their jna weapons killing ppl for years then when they had chance to show how strong they were against a real army they fled like headless chickens
Truthishidbehindlies 2 years ago
croatian forces dont stand a whores chance in hell against canadians svejenase 13 haha
jacmel 2 years ago
@jacmel
canadians are pussy's and would of been fucking dead hahh
Oh boy we are so scared what are you gonna fight wiht your hockey sticks
SVEJENASE13 1 year ago
Firstly Gotovina has not been proven guilty nor any evidence shown in the court supported that indictment. Only by malicious and preposterous statements by the so called UN peackeeprs which later proved to be false in the courts if you have followed it. If you did not which is the case,, you have no right in commenting on this matter boy
SVEJENASE13 2 years ago
@SVEJENASE13
Yes because expelling 200,000 from their homes, and then lighting their homes on fire is really only a war crime if there's a peice of paper that says that you ordered that to happen.
Fuck Gotovina, Tudjman, Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzic, Izetbegovic, Silajdzic, Dietrich, Clinton, Clark, Albright, etc. And most of all FUCK YOU for thinking that any one of them is not guilty.
whodahellstolemyname 2 years ago
@whodahellstolemyname
Fuck canada, and fuck yyour made up nation
Paper ? we have video confirmation that showed that they were ordered out on their own. Its been proven in the hauge so fuck you candian ass wipes
SVEJENASE13 1 year ago
clearly this whole fucking blog is biased because all the bullshit comments get thumbs up and the sane, truthful comments get thumbs down. I know general leslie will be acquited because hes a million times the man you'll ever be spanonski. Ooooh look at me, I'm spanonski and I'm so tough sitting at my computer bashing the general because I'm threatened because he's more of a man than I'll ever be....grow the fuck up!!!
sicksonethree 2 years ago
Not to mention the fact that the good general is innocent. You say there's no proof he's innocent but at the same time there's no solid proof he's guilty. And if you knew anything about our legal system you'd know that you DO NOT have to "prove" innocence for someone to be innocent, you just have to prove "reasonable doubt of guilt." A "balance of probabilities" if you will.
sicksonethree 2 years ago
Escuse me Gotovina is winning you have no proof against gotovina and we have proof that he's innocent
Once again you piece of canadian trash learn about your history,our history cause you dont know shit
SVEJENASE13 2 years ago 3
General lesslie is the same piece of canadian trash like the whole canadian nation
SVEJENASE13 2 years ago
@SVEJENASE13
Way to show us what a wonderful person you are. Yeah, fuck Canada and everyone else who dares talk about the war crimes we committed! We are only intersted in Serb war crimes because those are the only ones that matter. Our war criminals are heroes!
whodahellstolemyname 2 years ago
We were soilders you canadian fuck while you and your little canidens motherfuckers and your small little un peackeepers were drinking with the enemy in croatia and in bosnia while civilians were being murdered and your fucking peacekeepers were hiding in your fucking fox holes. What right do you have since you have not even fucking been to that war or let alone any other war.
And second i studied law in that fucking country of yours. So do not question me boy.
SVEJENASE13 2 years ago
@sicksonethree
hit the nail on the head.
spanonski post some videos about the forged documents and lying witnesses in Seselj's trial, or maybe a few videos of Ustase collaboration with Vatican, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Maybe a video about Jasenovac, or Celibici.
Oh wait, no those things probably are just myths because they're on your side. I get it.
whodahellstolemyname 2 years ago
@whodahellstolemyname
we made yugoslavia we were the first anti -fascists in europe with the slovenians in 1920 tito was croat, the majority of partisans were croatians
Hey canadian ass wipe learn some history
SVEJENASE13 1 year ago
What an asshole.
Mesina2 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Ante Gotovina was found guilty by the International War Crimes Tribunal. Proof is proof. Andrew Leslie is innocent, and Ante Gotovina was guilty.
There was absolutely no mistake and if you're all complaining about a biased decision, you should all be a little less bis yourselves.
Donnieosmond 3 years ago
WTF are you're talknig about? The trial is still going on and will last at least 2 more years.There is no proof that Leslie is innocent,but he is contradicting himself which to me says he's probably lying.The people are complaining about him not beeing a credible witness.
spanonski 3 years ago
@Donnieosmond if he was innocent then why would his own soldier admit in receiving an email asking him to do him a ''favour?'' You htink the favour was so grab him a case of beer on the way home? This Hague tribunal is a puppet show and it was proven the other day when the defender was found just as guilty as the aggressor. If he was so innocent then why would the court throw him out and discredit his testimony? America and NATO bombs miss their targets and kill civilians in their campaigns
jadranko77 10 months ago
@Donnieosmond what they should investigate is why did he lie and want to dig and fog up evidence to discredit the Croatian army in defending their own land and people in their own country. You are against Canadian values and everything that stands for democracy. I know you mean well but unfortunately you are misinformed. Please investigate further.
jadranko77 10 months ago
Un general lewis mackenzie also seems to take the serb side, he even goes to serb picnics....i wonder if his opinions were bias as well and fabricated to appease serb interests. The truth will eventually surface no matter what.... its starting to right now and thank God almighty for it.
jadranko77 3 years ago
maybe he was misinformed.... maybe someone else whom he trusted relayed him false information. Who knows but I hope God will just allow truth and justice to prevail. Amen!
jadranko77 3 years ago
I am proud to be a Canadian and I am a taxpaying law obiding citizen. I never collected a welfare cheque nor an UI checque. I use to be proud to be a Canadian until your rain of dishonesty infested the former Yugoslavia. Have you frogotten the serbs who handcuffed OUR troops to poles in order to prevent NATO bombings? Have you forgotten the Dutch peacekeepers the serbs kidnapped? Who's side are you on? Croatians did nothing but take back what was theirs.
jadranko77 3 years ago 5
You were the main reason why I did not want to join the Canadian forces. Did you forget the serbs who handcuffed OUR troops to poles in hope 2 prevent NATO bombing??? What did Croatians do to you?
jadranko77 3 years ago 3
General Andrew Leslie you have ruined the integrity of Canada. You should be ashamed and stripped from your medals. Yo should be on trial and an inquiry should goout and find out why you lied and check all your bank accounts to see if you were bribed. Croatians know you collaborated with serbs. Only time will tell until they can prove that. You should come out clean and justtell the truth.
jadranko77 3 years ago 3
Bravo to the defence!!!! Excellent job and I am exctatic that his reputation has now been tarnished and rightfully so, as the evidence suggests. He should also be in trial for lying. I like the fact the the court has nowmade him to "shut up". Well done. Maybe this international court is not as bias as I once thought.
jadranko77 3 years ago 3
As a Canadian Croatian citizen I am ashamed to say I am Canadian in Croatia. My cousins serbed bravely in the army and they told me that serbs collaborated with the UN where the UN passed vital information to the serbs on how the Croatian troops were moving and attacking. The Canadian troops even attacked Croatian forces killing several soldiers. What fustrates me is that why woudl such a credible general do such a thing? Why would he lie? People do not realize that that same region
jadranko77 3 years ago 3
L-Gen Andrew B. Leslie is a very very highly decorated General who is an oustandingly charismatic and inteligent man who is Innocent(end of story) - thats why he has not been courtmarsheled by the CDS and JAG...He was simply a witness...to the war crimes that the retired General was accused of. Weahter these acusations were tru or not is not L-Gen Adnrew Leslie's Problem. In his educated and experianced military opinion the general at the time who was in charge was commiting war crimes.
afournier8 3 years ago
Gen. Keslie coulnd't see shit,cause no UN personel was permited to go to the area.Only US officials were there together with the Croatian army.General Govotina is only accused of "unselective" shelling of that town which is proven wrong by other UN observers.So i don't know what Gen.Leslie's intentions were,but he's full of crap.
spanonski 3 years ago
you my friend are gravely misinformed and dillusional...my cousins who fought in the war can provide you with 1st hand information and evidence that can prove you wrong and make you look just as stupid as he looked on the witnessed stand.
jadranko77 3 years ago
if so then why how do you explain his email that is asking a soldier to lie?
jadranko77 3 years ago
the canadian is big liar, truth will come out of friendship with serb terrorists, and his regular evenings with serb prostitutes, i was in croatian army from 1991-99 and during oluja majority serbs fled before we come, only old people stay, what he say is wrong not true! Gotovina is innocent!!!!!!
yozhik01 3 years ago 4
Ante Gotovina never did something wrong!!! is it wrong to protect his land??? wtf!!! leslie andrew fucking lyer.
hrvatinja 3 years ago 4
Der General Leslie ..kann sich schämen für alles was er getan hat ungerecht ANTE GOTOVINA und kroatisches volk...!!!
Schande Schande pfuiiii....
wenn Gotovina schuld ist dann müssen wir alle kroatische Volk in Haag...!!!
KninQueen 3 years ago
What I don't understand is how, in light of this blatent disregard for the truth has this man not been stripped of his title, and indeed been courtmartialed. My compatriot stated it aptly below....his comments and recanting of events are not suprising given what the world outside of Canada knows of Lewis Mckenzie.
cromax73 3 years ago 3
Shame....shame.....shame on General Leslie.....
Lies...lies and more lies....how pathetic from a high ranking Canadian General. No doubt a student of Lewis Mackenzie...
domrat5 3 years ago 3
the serb forces probably had solders firing from civilian objects so the Croatians war shutting on those houses or what ewer objects.this happened in bombing of Yugoslavia to,they had radars in the schools and some hospitals to so they claimed that the NATO was bombing civilians
vajdasagi 3 years ago 2
Is Gen Leslie now going to ask the judges to overlook his blatant prejudice & less than honest conduct in Croatia? He has amnesty what does he care!
ON WHOSE ORDERS did gen. Lesly instigate this SHAMEFUL fabrication of dirty "EVIDENCE" against HONOURABLE Croatians involved in the Operation Storm & WHAT ELSE?
Was it one or more of those "honourable" men who granted themselves amnesty from prosecution by ICTY?
A CRIME IS A CRIME NO MATTER PEDIGREE OF THE PREPARTRATOR
NO AMNESTY FOR CRIMINALS!
bilicvit 3 years ago 2