The Christians ARE RIGHT when they recognize YESHUA (Jesus) as the Christ or Messiah. Some Jewish feel that they would be unfaithful to God if the accept Jesus, the TRUE Messiah. That is because they have been taught and even some have even been prohibited to learn about the Saviour, not only of the Jews, but of the whole human-kind. Why would some Jews accept Jesus if the Jews have a long history of killing / persecuting their own prophets. Just to --later on-- recognize that they were wrong.
If you read carefully, the Messiah has come (Jesus) as someone who would be killed as the prophecy mentioned for his first coming. That opened the door to the rest of the human beings. Previous to His second coming (first coming for the Jewish) there will be a great tribulation and He --with Great Power-- will judge mankind and restore peace to earth, and the earth will be a paradise again.
The Jewish are known in their own sacred books to persecute and kill the prophets sent by God and also to be unfaithful to God. If they have had a special talent to disrespect and remain blind about their prophets, it is no surprise that they cannot recognize JESUS as the MESSIAH. The Bible has the immediate part and the future part of the prophecies. The historical servant was at a time Israel, but the prophecy goes further to apply to JESUS THE MESSIAH. Quit killing your prophets. Open eyes
Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
The NIV version does not conflict with Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 because they replaced SHE and THEY with WILL. They also replace young woman with virgin. I do not know if it is more accurate to the older documents or just Christians trying to hide their mistakes.
@MrJohnj5530 Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name
@JeremeK yet it does, missed that, good job, however, just goes to show ya what man has done to the bible, and the person who loaded this video seems smart and should know that if its not in the KJV then throw it out.....yes the KJV has some translation errors "but" its as close as you can get, but everybody like to argue so there ya go haha
@hemet92544 But even since it doesn't say the word "she", it is a given that SHE (the woman) is the one to call him immanuel (which she never even does so, by the way).
Consistently calls the servant "Israel" but for some reason it switches to the messiah (Jesus) in Isaiah 53. Many of the prophecy are riping quotes out of context, and fabricating and applying them to Jesus as the author Matthew did with Hosea 11:1-2 in matthew 2;15
@MrEmeraldfusion Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
@SavedandSound; lets do credit henry for christianity as it is for christians who ar enot of the catholic faith. It's true. may be not as yuo know it but as it really is. before henry all christians were catholics. Jesus was not really a catholic favorite.
@otherworldtrader1 Christianity split into Roman Catholicism and Greek Orthodoxy in 1054. Henry VIII was part of the Protestant Reformation, which began in 1517 with Martin Luther's Ninety-Five Theses.
Parthagenesis(sp?) isn't exactly unheard of. Girls have become pregnant by a man's ejaculate getting up into the vagina w/o him penetrating her,and there's a lizard whose species has no males,and therefore,is truly a virgin birth.
I watched the last vid,and was gonna ask when you were gonna cover the mistranslation of the word for 'young woman'. ty for covering this! From what I've heard,the virginity of Mary wasn't even a part of the original story,and there were rumors about Jesus being a bastard,perhaps the product of a rape by a Roman soldier,so his birth needed to be legitimized.Have you heard of this? Just curious.
16=And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, [ JESUS ] justified in the Spirit,, [ JESUS ] seen of angels,,[ JESUS ] preached unto the Gentiles, ,[ JESUS ] believed on in the world, ,[ JESUS ] received up into glory.,[ JESUS ] ,[ JESUS ] ,[ JESUS ] .
2 Corinthians 4' 3.
3. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost...
so are you a jew, or are you an atheist who's just trying to show Jesus didn't fulfill the prophecies. If you are a Jew could you tell me what the messiah is supposed to be like?
@conraddoavil The Messiah is going to be a regular person born of earthly parents. He will have kids. He will bring the Jews back to Israel, bring peace to the world, rebuild the third temple, brign the dead back, etc. The Messiah is not goign to be a demi-God or posess supernatural qualities like Christianity claims.
@missile300 How does Isaiah 7:14 even without the word virgin discount Jesus? Why would they say "the young woman" and not mean virgin, when they said a sign would be given? and wouldn't the messiah be God anyway simply because of that prophecy? Immanuel?
@conraddoavil First of all it's a mistranslation. The original Hebrew text says "young woman", while the Christian one says "virgin". Secondly the Messiah cannot be God because no man can be God. God warns us several times that he is not a man or anything of the likeness of the earth and prohibits us from having any graven image.
@missile300 Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
@conraddoavil Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
@missile300 If "Messiah is not goign [sic] to be a demi-God or posess supernatural qualities like Christianity claims" then how will he "brign" [sic] the dead back to life? Just wondering...
@SavedandSound Because the world is going to change. Nature is going to change. It's like saying how did Moses split the sea? He didn't have supernatural qualities to him so how did he split the sea? It's because of G-d. Moses may have stretched out his arm but G-d is the one that made the sea split.
@missile300 Hi and thank you for your reply. Totally with you on where Moses got his power :) But, in spite of this very thought-provoking video series, I believe that Jesus was and is Messiah. I don't think Prof has given nearly enough evidence to prove Jesus was not the promised Saviour. He sure gave ol' Matthew a whupping, though, hehe. Anyway, Happy Hannukah and G-d bless. To my fellow Christ-followers, a very Merry Christmas. To the atheists here, um...Seasons Greetings?
@conraddoavil I will tell you the messiah is supposed t bring peace to the world.Christ has not yet fulfilled this. There are others but that is biggest criteria he must fulfil
@ProfMTH I would add to the analysis of Isaiah 7 that if you continue reading into ch 8 and beyond, it seems to me that the prophecy is either talking about isaiah's child with the prophetess, or the coming king of Assyria, which god was supposedly using as a punishment against Israel and Judah. The language is very similar to ch 7. What do you think?
@ProfMTH Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
@Manifestatheist Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
Oh my GOD!!!! You're actually arguing that the misstatement of a single word (from an author probably using an Aramaic translation, no less) constitutes "misquoting!!!!!!"
LOL! What was that you were saying about firing off insults under the other video?
In any case, feel free to refute the case I've laid out in this series. Asserting that I'm an "intellectual zero" and that the writer at issue was "probably using an Aramaic translation" doesn't refute a word I've said here.
Conclusion: This cannot refer to the entire nation of Israel, since David's family is a subset of Judah. Now, go reread Isa 52:13 - 53:12 again in this light.
In short, "David" possesses very special exalted names, rules forever, is a priest/king, is called, "my servant the branch", and is "like God, like the Angel of YHWH" who was one powerful dude. This David obviously is the most exalted person on earth, and is directly related to propitiation of sins. Continued...
And will be sitting on a throne as a priest/king (Zech 6:12,13) (which was not permissible under the Torah. Only Levites could be priests. David was a Judahite.) He will "sprinkle many nations", a priestly function of propitiation. (Isa 52:15) continued...
His name is "eternal father (ab olam, a kingly term), mighty god (el), prince of peace", and he will rule forever. (Isa 9:6,7) The House of David will be "like God, like the ANGEL OF YHVH" (Zech 12:8, Exo 23:21) This ain't no ordinary family of mortal Isralites. YHVH raises "my servant the branch" (Zech 3:8) who is DIRECTLY RELATED to the removal of sin! (v4-7,9) continued...
Yet, YHVH will raise up a righteous servant/branch known as "David my servant" and the "branch" (Jer 23:5, 33:15, Eze 37:25), and his name in particular will be "YHVH our righteousness." (Jer 23:5) Jerusalem in general will likewise possess the same name. (Jer 33:16) Thus David bears the name of YHWH as did the Angel of YHVH. (Exo 23:21) Judah will be saved, and Israel will live securely forever under David's rule. (Jer 23:6, 33:15, Eze 37:25.) ...continued
To those interested: The suffering servant of Isa 53 is not identical with the entire nation of Israel. It is a subset known as the "house of David", or simply, "David." This can be seen by the following: At the time when Israel is restored forever, the "only name" will be "YHVH" and he will be king over the earth and his name the "only name" (Zech 14:9) continued...
@bill4long "To those interested: The suffering servant of Isa 53 is not identical with the entire nation of Israel."
This despite the fact that the Servant Songs in Isaiah consistently name the servant as Israel. See, folks, for many Christians it just doesn't matter what their scriptures say. If it's inconvenient, they'll simply ignore it.
@ProfMTH explained above. You didn't have time to digest what I just wrote and look at the references. At any rate, you're a lost cause. It's there for all to see for anyone who actually is interested to checking them out.
@bill4long "You didn't have time to digest what I just wrote and look at the references."
Oh, I did. You completely avoid the Servant Songs in Isaiah--the actual text under review here. No surprise, of course, since they completely undermine your assertion.
Isa 53 contrasts "he" and "we", "him" and "us", "his" and "our" no less than 14 times. E.g., "HE was wounded because of OUR transgressions", "with HIS stripes WE were healed." There are obviously TWO different parties here. Who are they?
@ProfMTH clearly you don't have an answer - point me to timestamp(s) of your video(s) that explains the identity of *both* parties in relation. You keep saying Israel over and over. Here's what I suggest: replace every pronoun with "Israel" and "Israel's" and see how much sense it makes: "All of [Israel] like sheep have gone astray, each of [Israel] has turned to [Israel's] own way, But YHVH has caused the iniquity of [Israel] to fall on [Israel]" - It's nonsense. And so is your video.
I do. And I presented it in the video. I'm not going to waste my time repeating what I clearly laid out in the video so that you can just stomp your feet and insist that Isaiah 53 is a reference to Jesus. I've been down this road with Christians who can't think beyond their theological and apologetic talking points too many times. It's a waste of my time. If you missed it in the video, you'll miss it here, too.
@ProfMTH who mentioned anything about "Jesus" here? I didn't. You can't answer a simple question. Just give me the names of both parties in the "he" and "we" relationship? Both Israel, yes or no? And by all mean provide the timestamp(s) (which I already asked for and you resist providing) where you explain this relationship...
@ProfMTH What is obvious is that you have a shallow grasp of the Tanach material. For example, Lev 4:3 shows that the high priest was so closely identified with Israel that if the high priest sinned the *entire nation* was guilty. And you're probably never even read Zechariah chapter 3. You're a poseur.
@ProfMTH by the way, the Hebrew word "All of us" at the beginning and end of 53:6 is KLN and indicate the "totality of us", i.e, the totality of Israel.
I am more and more convinced that science and literacy are religion's worst enemy. At a time when most were illiterate and the iron fist was poised to descend on "free thinkers", they had a pretty damn good thing going. Isaiah 7:14 has been a real annoyance to me since I read the entire chapter, to find that religion has been lying to the sheep. It is impossible for me to believe that not one "theologian" after reading Isaiah 7 realized it wasn't referring to Jesus at all. Excellent job!
until i started watching debates on YT about religion and gods existence ,i had no idea how unscrupulous ,irrational and dishonest religious appologists were prepared to be in defending their scriptural works .these clips by profmth illustrate that the use such openly devious chicanery has a very long tradition in christology .
really though ,given the terrain that such hapless appologists are required to defend ,they have very little other recourse .their ground is simply not defensible .
The Jews did not say the Rebbe is the Messiah, nor did he said so. We Jews do not need a G-D because we already have Hashem. Deut Chapter 18 is clear- no new Torahs, no new doctrines. The Shema is clear only one G-D and Creator. Christians need to stop mis quoting or Torah is fit the nonsense.
He not only the one who created and justifies you but he is also the one who transforms or glorifies you. So when Matthew says they will call him Emmanuel he is not in error but is speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the FATHER"(Philippians 2:11) Even Mary the mother of Jesus calls him "my savior" So Mtw was right "they" or everyone including Mary- who named him Jesus- shall call him "Emmanuel"
"And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior" Luke 1:46-47 The idea of "Messiah" in orthodox Hebrew culture was that God himself will dwell with man. This was accomplished through Christ permanently by way of the Holy Spirit given to us by Christ who had many names. Unlike western culture names were more of a description of your purpose not so much your identity. Mary here says "she rejoiced in God my SAVIOR" not God my Jesus.
He is also called mighty counselor, the great I AM, the alpha and the omega, the prince of peace, the word of God, our redeemer the lamb of God Jesus and Emmanuel. Should Mary had named him all these names his birth certificate would be enormous.The Hebrew culture is not high on names for purely identification purposes as we are in the west.You were named by your description so really since God or Christ is self existent He really has no name since HE existed before there was a word for "name"
Why worry,the bible makes no sense anyway.Talking snakes,virgin births,people being turned to salt,fine years ago when people had no grasp of science and reality but now it just seems outdated and a bit strange.Seriously listening to these religious texts I can feel my brain turning numb its so boring and irrelevant.Bare in mind it was done in times when having a slave with no testicles was considered cool,that's how stupid and insane people were back then.
sence there was no christians until the romans invented it 450 yrs after jesus's death jese nor his decipals were christians. christianity as we know it is about 450 yrs ago when the kind of england broke with the caTHOLIOC CHURCH AFTER HE WAS REFUSED A DIVORCE
@otherworldtrader1 In Jesus's time, people who believed that He was Messiah were simply called "believers." This group, which grew rapidly after Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection, was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles. Because they followed the teachings of Jesus they weren't permitted to worship in Temple and so they met in one another's homes. And, please, let's not credit Henry VIII for "Christianity as we know it." It's not Christianity as I know it.
34. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Mary herself saying that, she had not been with any man.
The messenger of the Highest saying that, her firstborn will be begotten by the Holy Spirit.
@archpolice - Correction: from my own statement, "begotten by the Holy Spirit".
It should have said, "The Son of God was begotten by the power of the Highest (Yahweh)".
John 1 (begotten of the Father)
14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Mark 1 (my beloved Son)
11. And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Okey, let us debate. First of all, you must do a commentary about your messiah, rebbe Menachem Schneerson that not fulfil any prophecy of TANACH and now is considered god by his followers, Guess, a little god that not achieve his resuscitation.Your rebbe is a miserable fellow.Yeshua was pierced, his death was by hemorrhage...
@50crol What the hell are you talking about? Schneerson is not my messiah. You know what? Thanks for letting me know early in this exchange that you're a nut. At least I know what I'm dealing it--more correctly, done dealing with.
@50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )->thats a zero bro.
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nem ^^
Emmanuel = "God with us" the title applied to the Messiah, born of the virgin, Mt 1:23, Is. 7:14, because Jesus was God united with man, and showed that God was dwelling with man
Lexicons - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard -
Emmanuel = "God with us" the title applied to the Messiah, born of the virgin, Mt 1:23, Is. 7:14, because Jesus was God united with man, and showed that God was dwelling with man
Lexicons - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard -
@50crol@50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nothing else matters
@50crol@50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nothing else matters
I love the comments made by Christians demonstrating their blind faith rather than actually attempting to make some sort of argument. Sorry guys, but not everyone is so easily convinced.
See note on 42:6–7. that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth. A clear statement of salvation's worldwide scope, a theme that Acts develops by quoting this text (see Acts 1:8; 13:47).
Isa. 49:5–6 It is too light a thing. It is too small a task to redeem only the tribes of Jacob (ethnic Israel). It is clear here that the servant, though he embodies Israel (v. 3), is nevertheless distinct from Israel, and has a calling to serve Israel and beyond. Far from failing, the servant is declared by God to be the only hope of the world. a light for the nations.
Isa. 49:4 The servant confesses his sense of failure due to Israel's poor response (cf. v. 7; 53:1). yet. The servant does not turn from God in cynical unbelief; he accepts emotional suffering and frustrating toil with confidence that God will reward him.
The Nation of Israel is called the servant. Isa 41:8, 42:19, 43:10, 44:1-2,21, 45:4, 48:20. The Messiah is called the servant. Isa 42:1-17, 49:3,5-7, 50:10, 52:13, 53:11. SEE ESV Study bible NOTE on. Isa. 42:1–9 The second Servant Song (49:1–13), which clarifies that the servant is distinct from Israel, . to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him- If you are a new Christian watching these propaganda videos ask for help. their are answers. 1Co 2:14
@rbmath "The Messiah is called the servant. Isa 42:1-17...."
Please cite the specific passage(s) in which the Messiah is mentioned in Isaiah 42:1-17.
"The Messiah is called the servant...[Isaiah] 49:3, 5-7...."
Odd then, isn't it, that in Isaiah 49:3--the verse that starts off the portion you claim has the Messiah called the servant--it says, "You are my servant, ISRAEL, in whom I will display my splendor" (emphasis added). You might want to read your Bible more closely.
Quite the opposite. As I show in the video quite clearly, in the servant songs the servant is consistently identified as Israel. Even in one of the passages you (wrongly) claim has the Messiah called the servant (Isaiah 49:3-7), the servant is called Israel: "You are my servant, Israel...."
@ProfMTH .. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has pointed out your errors and your lack of following the flow of the letter it does not change that fact of the scriptures already pointed out Isa 49:5-7 where it speaks of an individual gathering Israel... to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him... All you do is show how spiritually blind you really are 1Co 2:14. thank full you really have no effect on true Christians since they will see through your propaganda.
@rbmath " I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has pointed out your errors...."
LOL! I've just spent 2 comment boxes pointing out your errors & requesting that you be specific about passages you were vague about. Now you say you've pointed out *my* errors. Very funny. Alas, it's also a typical apologetic tactic: the apologist just ignores everything that's been said in response and pretends s/he has prevailed--not to mention your usual blather about "spiritual blindness" and so on.
@ProfMTH. Try to actually follow the flow of letter from ESV Study bible. Isa. 49:3 my servant, Israel. Comparing vv. 5–6, this servant Israel restores the nation Israel. The servant is the true embodiment of what the nation failed to be, namely, the one in whom I will be glorified.
@buzzobug The holy Trinity was made up by Christians who think God and Jesus are the same therefore not reliable. This is proven since it’s not mentioned in the Old Testament.
One like the Son fo Man, Coining with the clouds of heaven, He came to the Ancient of Days. read on. the Jewish high priest knew what Jesus was saying to them that here He is God , the God of Israel and so they tore their clothes , , what does the book of Daniel say about the Son of Man, then to HIm was given dominion and glory and a Kingdom. read on. the Lord Jesus is God the Son.
hmmm, in Matthew, C-26, verses 63- 65, " I put you under oath by the living God: Tell us if YOu are the Christ, the Song of God", 64, Jesus said to him, "it is as you said. Nevertheless , I say to you, hereafter you will see the Song of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven", 65, Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, "He has spoken blasphemy!..... interpert that since Jesus is going back to the book of Daniel, OT, chapter6, 13- b, One like
when Jesus was standing before the Jewish people , book of John, He told them that "before Abraham was I AM", the Jewish People understood that Jesus was claiming to be God, the God of Israel. and what did they do? they picked up stones to stone him. and He asked them why they were going to stone him. and what did they say to him? They said , "You a mere man claim to be GOD", read it and what do you say?
the Lord Jesus is God , no matter how much you want to twist it. He is the Lamb of God just as John said, and He is the only way to Salvation as God showed the way in the OT and then did it in the NT. IT is said that the OT is in the NT revealed and the NT is in the OT conceled.
@buzzobug "the Lord Jesus is God , no matter how much you want to twist it."
This video series refutes the claim that Jesus was the Messiah. Your merely asserting that Jesus is a god does not demonstrate anything nor does it refute the case I've laid out in this series.
@ProfMTH , book of Titus, NT, C-1 verse 13-14, ..... of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for HImself His own special people, zealous for good works. ", I ask you would a Jew in that day have said this? , NT, book of Ephesians, C-1 verse, 7, IN HIm we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His Grace. Tell me who shed their own blood on the cross ...
@ProfMTH , in the NT., Acts, 20, verse 28, "Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood", do you read that? ONLY GOD can redeem mankind since man fell into sin through Adam and Eve. That is the mercy and Love of God. If God was only just in His dealings with mankind then we would all go to hell forever. God showed his plan in the OT and then did it in N
@ProfMTH , what are you talking about? Redemption and salvation are a free gift from God and He showed that in his love by coming in the first advent , the second advent is when the Lord Jesus will return to judge all of us., at the last day, when ever that is, book of John and the book of Daniel. Book of 1st John, God is Love. . just as God is Just and in the book of Psalm,s , Mercy trumpts. over Judgement.
You said, "If God was only just in His dealings with mankind then we would all go to hell forever." This indicates that you believe that your god is *other* than just in his dealings with humankind. Therefore I asked whether redemption and salvation are unjust. You've already suggested they're not just. I'd simply like you to complete the circle. Are they unjust?
@ProfMTH , i guess my mind is not big enough to understand you. Jesus is not some small god, He is the God who spoke and the universe came to be. God is perfectly just in his dealings, in that in Adam and Eve,s fall in to sin. Sin entered the world then and it is passed onto all mankind. i know from experience. So since i am a sinner and you are too, then that means for us to be redeemed from our sin we need a savior and in the Bible it shows we need a perfect sacrifice , so God
so God became the perfect sacrifice for mankind,s sin. Just as the book of Acts says. 20, verse 38, as i have already said. So God showed us Mercy and He is Just . Sin demands justice be done. and it was done at the cross. So God offers us His Mercy. If we don,t want it then we will suffer after we pass away. And i am going to see the Lord Jesus face to face. and He is not some small god. Those who do evil and have rejected the Lord Jesus will spend eternity seperated from.
@buzzobug "i guess my mind is not big enough to understand you."
Since I'm just a regular guy asking you a straightforward question about your claim, I doubt the size of your mind is an issue here. What I suspect *is* the issue is that you haven't thought your claim through. You went on for 2 comment boxes and *still* didn't answer the question. You claimed that if your god dealt with us exclusively as a matter of justice, we'd all go to hell. So is salvation inconsistent with justice?
@ProfMTH , it is simmple in my opinion, all mankind sinned by nature, {Adam and Eve}, and by choice. I know by choice. Ha, Salvation is the free gift from God and He paid the price by coming into this world , the one He created, and by living the perfect life and then giving His life upon the Cross. He paid the price in blood, acts 20, Justice, He paid the debt, and then He was raised 3 days later and so proved that He is God. And one day i am going to see Him face to face and you can to
At first: Jesus write nothing in the Holy Scriptures, At second: they were in hands of priests and kings, so they have added many words into Holy Scriptures to support their interests and rulerships. But in order to distinguish whether there are true words in the Holy Scriptures at all or none, we have to use the Hebrew Gematria, to see that it contains not only the story of the Flood, but also the story of someone called יֵשׁוּעַ הַמָּשִׁיחַ-"Jesus the Christ". Maybe he is another one.
Hi, Could You pls try to make a history of a flood, if You'd collect in one place Hebrew words, sum of letters of each word is equal to the same number? 410 for example: אֲרָרָט-"Ararat"=410 ; הָהֶרֶר[ha.he-r.er]-(Hebrew) "mountain-chain"=410; זֻגֹּת-[Zuggot]-"pairs"=410; קָדוֹשׁ-[Qadosh]-"holy"=410. יִשְׁפֹּךְ-[Yishpoch]-"He will poure"=410; שָׁפָל-[Shafal]-"down"; מֵימֵי רַעַם-[Meimey raam]-"waters of thunder"; שְׁמִינִי-[Shmini]-"eighth"; שָׁלַף-[Shalaf]-"He will take off".
sorry, the name jesus has a definition, given by the angel Gabriel ."the lord saves".
hence "the crucifixion" so by faith are we saved. through our transgressions inherited by adam and eve.that is why the the world is not stable.so there has to be a judgement day.i am running on faith in christ.there are 33 million gods,but i believe in the one sent by the Most-High.
"Behold. i send my messenger and he will clear the way before me"
this is clear and not distorted.the baptist also testify's.
the temple was destroyed now twice.
when the third temple is built it will usher in the time of anti-christ.
christ will return coming on the clouds of heaven with great power and glory and cast all unbelievers into the lake of fire.i believe that would be the final judgement day of the Lord.
the last thing I want to say is that the prophecy has in fact been fulfilled because the book of Luke even talks further about what these verses are speaking of. Go and read Luke 1:26-27, Luke 1:30-31
ProfMTH if you would look at the previous verse in Isaiah7:13 it says "Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also?" clearly God through Isaiah is not talking to one person here but rather in the plural form of the word "you" he is speaking to the entire royal line of David because he knew that it wasnt just one but many who were guilty of what Isa. 7:13 says. And in Matthew 1:23 it says "they" it means Mary, the wise men, etc. anyone-
The Bible makes it definitely and absolutely clear in 1 John 2:22 who every says that Yeshua (JESUS) is or was not the Messiah is a liar and therefore is an Anti-Christ and reject both God the Father and God the Son.
look in ezekial,,IT says 'israel is full of violence'..in isaiah it says'there was no violence in him'..so..hmm.HOW CAN ISAIAH 53 BE TALKING ABOUT THE NATION ISRAEL?.but,,i am not a xtian and i do not believe jesus is G-D
@racheland "look in ezekial,,IT says 'israel is full of violence'..in isaiah it says'there was no violence in him'..so..hmm.HOW CAN ISAIAH 53 BE TALKING ABOUT THE NATION ISRAEL?"
How have you come to conclude that a passage in Ezekiel determines the meaning of Isaiah? It's an exceedingly odd conclusion. Moreover, it is nothing more than attempt--albeit it a clumsy one--to steer around the argument regarding the Servant Songs in Isaiah that is presented in this video.
Emmanuel is used as a SYMBOL because of its meaning. JESUS was Emmanuel because GOD was with Him.
MojarrangoRosa 3 days ago
@MojarrangoRosa Did you even watch the video? Jesus was not applicable to this.
humanistheart 1 day ago
The Christians ARE RIGHT when they recognize YESHUA (Jesus) as the Christ or Messiah. Some Jewish feel that they would be unfaithful to God if the accept Jesus, the TRUE Messiah. That is because they have been taught and even some have even been prohibited to learn about the Saviour, not only of the Jews, but of the whole human-kind. Why would some Jews accept Jesus if the Jews have a long history of killing / persecuting their own prophets. Just to --later on-- recognize that they were wrong.
MojarrangoRosa 3 days ago
@MojarrangoRosa "Jesus, the TRUE Messiah. "
If jesus is the messiah than I must be god.
humanistheart 1 day ago
If you read carefully, the Messiah has come (Jesus) as someone who would be killed as the prophecy mentioned for his first coming. That opened the door to the rest of the human beings. Previous to His second coming (first coming for the Jewish) there will be a great tribulation and He --with Great Power-- will judge mankind and restore peace to earth, and the earth will be a paradise again.
MojarrangoRosa 3 days ago
The Jewish are known in their own sacred books to persecute and kill the prophets sent by God and also to be unfaithful to God. If they have had a special talent to disrespect and remain blind about their prophets, it is no surprise that they cannot recognize JESUS as the MESSIAH. The Bible has the immediate part and the future part of the prophecies. The historical servant was at a time Israel, but the prophecy goes further to apply to JESUS THE MESSIAH. Quit killing your prophets. Open eyes
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Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
hemet92544 1 month ago
@hemet92544 What version of the bible do they use for bible gateway.
MrJohnj5530 1 month ago
@MrJohnj5530 hello, read what i posted again??? i said """choose any version you want"""""""" okayyyyyy :-)
hemet92544 1 month ago
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@MrJohnj5530 hello, read what i posted again??? i said "choose any version you want" okayyyyyy :-)
hemet92544 1 month ago
The NIV version does not conflict with Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 because they replaced SHE and THEY with WILL. They also replace young woman with virgin. I do not know if it is more accurate to the older documents or just Christians trying to hide their mistakes.
MrJohnj5530 1 month ago
@MrJohnj5530 The latter.
ProfMTH 1 month ago
@MrJohnj5530 Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name
hemet92544 1 month ago
@hemet92544 It does with NAS, The Message, and NCV.
JeremeK 1 month ago in playlist Christianity is Wrong
@JeremeK yet it does, missed that, good job, however, just goes to show ya what man has done to the bible, and the person who loaded this video seems smart and should know that if its not in the KJV then throw it out.....yes the KJV has some translation errors "but" its as close as you can get, but everybody like to argue so there ya go haha
hemet92544 1 month ago
@hemet92544 But even since it doesn't say the word "she", it is a given that SHE (the woman) is the one to call him immanuel (which she never even does so, by the way).
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Yahweigh 2 months ago
@Yahweigh Thanks a lot.
ProfMTH 2 months ago
Consistently calls the servant "Israel" but for some reason it switches to the messiah (Jesus) in Isaiah 53. Many of the prophecy are riping quotes out of context, and fabricating and applying them to Jesus as the author Matthew did with Hosea 11:1-2 in matthew 2;15
MrEmeraldfusion 2 months ago
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hemet92544 1 month ago
@SavedandSound; lets do credit henry for christianity as it is for christians who ar enot of the catholic faith. It's true. may be not as yuo know it but as it really is. before henry all christians were catholics. Jesus was not really a catholic favorite.
otherworldtrader1 2 months ago
@otherworldtrader1 Christianity split into Roman Catholicism and Greek Orthodoxy in 1054. Henry VIII was part of the Protestant Reformation, which began in 1517 with Martin Luther's Ninety-Five Theses.
KayBeeEee1983 2 months ago
Parthagenesis(sp?) isn't exactly unheard of. Girls have become pregnant by a man's ejaculate getting up into the vagina w/o him penetrating her,and there's a lizard whose species has no males,and therefore,is truly a virgin birth.
proud2bpagan 3 months ago
I watched the last vid,and was gonna ask when you were gonna cover the mistranslation of the word for 'young woman'. ty for covering this! From what I've heard,the virginity of Mary wasn't even a part of the original story,and there were rumors about Jesus being a bastard,perhaps the product of a rape by a Roman soldier,so his birth needed to be legitimized.Have you heard of this? Just curious.
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1 Timothy 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16=And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, [ JESUS ] justified in the Spirit,, [ JESUS ] seen of angels,,[ JESUS ] preached unto the Gentiles, ,[ JESUS ] believed on in the world, ,[ JESUS ] received up into glory.,[ JESUS ] ,[ JESUS ] ,[ JESUS ] .
2 Corinthians 4' 3.
3. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost...
2+2=4+4=8+8=16 .
JESUS IS GOD.
believeonetime 3 months ago
so are you a jew, or are you an atheist who's just trying to show Jesus didn't fulfill the prophecies. If you are a Jew could you tell me what the messiah is supposed to be like?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil "are you a jew"
No.
"are you an atheist"
Yes.
ProfMTH 4 months ago
@conraddoavil The Messiah is going to be a regular person born of earthly parents. He will have kids. He will bring the Jews back to Israel, bring peace to the world, rebuild the third temple, brign the dead back, etc. The Messiah is not goign to be a demi-God or posess supernatural qualities like Christianity claims.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 are you Jewish?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil Yes.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 all your life?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil Yea why?
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 How does Isaiah 7:14 even without the word virgin discount Jesus? Why would they say "the young woman" and not mean virgin, when they said a sign would be given? and wouldn't the messiah be God anyway simply because of that prophecy? Immanuel?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil First of all it's a mistranslation. The original Hebrew text says "young woman", while the Christian one says "virgin". Secondly the Messiah cannot be God because no man can be God. God warns us several times that he is not a man or anything of the likeness of the earth and prohibits us from having any graven image.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 So do you agree with everything all the videos say?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil Yes. It's all correct.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 so do you believe adam & eve was the way everyone came into being, and that everyone sins?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil Absolutely.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 So are you gonna let a few misunderstandings of Gods infinite intelligence keep you from embracing the ultimate sacrifice?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil I'm not so sure I understand your question.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 You don't make sin offerings any more do you?
conraddoavil 4 months ago
@conraddoavil No, because we don't have the Holy Temple anymore. We will do them again when the Messiah comes.
missile300 4 months ago
@missile300 how will he be the messiah if sin has controll over you still?
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@missile300 Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
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@conraddoavil Isaiah 7:14, go to biblegateway . com and put that verse in, chose any bible version you want, none of them say "she" will call him his name, what say you profMTH video loader
hemet92544 1 month ago
@missile300 If "Messiah is not goign [sic] to be a demi-God or posess supernatural qualities like Christianity claims" then how will he "brign" [sic] the dead back to life? Just wondering...
SavedandSound 2 months ago
@SavedandSound Because the world is going to change. Nature is going to change. It's like saying how did Moses split the sea? He didn't have supernatural qualities to him so how did he split the sea? It's because of G-d. Moses may have stretched out his arm but G-d is the one that made the sea split.
missile300 2 months ago
@missile300 Hi and thank you for your reply. Totally with you on where Moses got his power :) But, in spite of this very thought-provoking video series, I believe that Jesus was and is Messiah. I don't think Prof has given nearly enough evidence to prove Jesus was not the promised Saviour. He sure gave ol' Matthew a whupping, though, hehe. Anyway, Happy Hannukah and G-d bless. To my fellow Christ-followers, a very Merry Christmas. To the atheists here, um...Seasons Greetings?
SavedandSound 2 months ago
@conraddoavil I will tell you the messiah is supposed t bring peace to the world.Christ has not yet fulfilled this. There are others but that is biggest criteria he must fulfil
greg91ification 2 weeks ago
@Manifestatheist Oh, and I'm really enjoying these videos!! Great content on your channel.
Manifestatheist 4 months ago
@Manifestatheist "Oh, and I'm really enjoying these videos!! Great content on your channel."
Great. Thanks a lot!
ProfMTH 4 months ago
@ProfMTH I would add to the analysis of Isaiah 7 that if you continue reading into ch 8 and beyond, it seems to me that the prophecy is either talking about isaiah's child with the prophetess, or the coming king of Assyria, which god was supposedly using as a punishment against Israel and Judah. The language is very similar to ch 7. What do you think?
Manifestatheist 4 months ago
@Manifestatheist I think you're right.
ProfMTH 4 months ago
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hemet92544 1 month ago
Oh my GOD!!!! You're actually arguing that the misstatement of a single word (from an author probably using an Aramaic translation, no less) constitutes "misquoting!!!!!!"
Give it up, loser. You're an intellectual zero.
philWynk 4 months ago
@philWynk "Give it up, loser."
LOL! What was that you were saying about firing off insults under the other video?
In any case, feel free to refute the case I've laid out in this series. Asserting that I'm an "intellectual zero" and that the writer at issue was "probably using an Aramaic translation" doesn't refute a word I've said here.
ProfMTH 4 months ago
@ProfMTH dont mind the blinded :)
luis0ana 4 months ago
Conclusion: This cannot refer to the entire nation of Israel, since David's family is a subset of Judah. Now, go reread Isa 52:13 - 53:12 again in this light.
bill4long 5 months ago
In short, "David" possesses very special exalted names, rules forever, is a priest/king, is called, "my servant the branch", and is "like God, like the Angel of YHWH" who was one powerful dude. This David obviously is the most exalted person on earth, and is directly related to propitiation of sins. Continued...
bill4long 5 months ago
And will be sitting on a throne as a priest/king (Zech 6:12,13) (which was not permissible under the Torah. Only Levites could be priests. David was a Judahite.) He will "sprinkle many nations", a priestly function of propitiation. (Isa 52:15) continued...
bill4long 5 months ago
His name is "eternal father (ab olam, a kingly term), mighty god (el), prince of peace", and he will rule forever. (Isa 9:6,7) The House of David will be "like God, like the ANGEL OF YHVH" (Zech 12:8, Exo 23:21) This ain't no ordinary family of mortal Isralites. YHVH raises "my servant the branch" (Zech 3:8) who is DIRECTLY RELATED to the removal of sin! (v4-7,9) continued...
bill4long 5 months ago
Yet, YHVH will raise up a righteous servant/branch known as "David my servant" and the "branch" (Jer 23:5, 33:15, Eze 37:25), and his name in particular will be "YHVH our righteousness." (Jer 23:5) Jerusalem in general will likewise possess the same name. (Jer 33:16) Thus David bears the name of YHWH as did the Angel of YHVH. (Exo 23:21) Judah will be saved, and Israel will live securely forever under David's rule. (Jer 23:6, 33:15, Eze 37:25.) ...continued
bill4long 5 months ago
To those interested: The suffering servant of Isa 53 is not identical with the entire nation of Israel. It is a subset known as the "house of David", or simply, "David." This can be seen by the following: At the time when Israel is restored forever, the "only name" will be "YHVH" and he will be king over the earth and his name the "only name" (Zech 14:9) continued...
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long "To those interested: The suffering servant of Isa 53 is not identical with the entire nation of Israel."
This despite the fact that the Servant Songs in Isaiah consistently name the servant as Israel. See, folks, for many Christians it just doesn't matter what their scriptures say. If it's inconvenient, they'll simply ignore it.
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH explained above. You didn't have time to digest what I just wrote and look at the references. At any rate, you're a lost cause. It's there for all to see for anyone who actually is interested to checking them out.
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long "You didn't have time to digest what I just wrote and look at the references."
Oh, I did. You completely avoid the Servant Songs in Isaiah--the actual text under review here. No surprise, of course, since they completely undermine your assertion.
ProfMTH 5 months ago
Isa 53 contrasts "he" and "we", "him" and "us", "his" and "our" no less than 14 times. E.g., "HE was wounded because of OUR transgressions", "with HIS stripes WE were healed." There are obviously TWO different parties here. Who are they?
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long As I showed in the video, the servant is Israel. Did you miss that part?
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH your explanation is lacking. How can *both* parties be Israel?
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long "your explanation is lacking. How can *both* parties be Israel?"
Clearly, you didn't pay attention. Watch the video again.
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH clearly you don't have an answer - point me to timestamp(s) of your video(s) that explains the identity of *both* parties in relation. You keep saying Israel over and over. Here's what I suggest: replace every pronoun with "Israel" and "Israel's" and see how much sense it makes: "All of [Israel] like sheep have gone astray, each of [Israel] has turned to [Israel's] own way, But YHVH has caused the iniquity of [Israel] to fall on [Israel]" - It's nonsense. And so is your video.
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long "clearly you don't have an answer"
I do. And I presented it in the video. I'm not going to waste my time repeating what I clearly laid out in the video so that you can just stomp your feet and insist that Isaiah 53 is a reference to Jesus. I've been down this road with Christians who can't think beyond their theological and apologetic talking points too many times. It's a waste of my time. If you missed it in the video, you'll miss it here, too.
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH who mentioned anything about "Jesus" here? I didn't. You can't answer a simple question. Just give me the names of both parties in the "he" and "we" relationship? Both Israel, yes or no? And by all mean provide the timestamp(s) (which I already asked for and you resist providing) where you explain this relationship...
bill4long 5 months ago
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bill4long 5 months ago
@ProfMTH What is obvious is that you have a shallow grasp of the Tanach material. For example, Lev 4:3 shows that the high priest was so closely identified with Israel that if the high priest sinned the *entire nation* was guilty. And you're probably never even read Zechariah chapter 3. You're a poseur.
bill4long 5 months ago
@bill4long " You're a poseur."
LOL. And you're delusional. Are we done?
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH by the way, the Hebrew word "All of us" at the beginning and end of 53:6 is KLN and indicate the "totality of us", i.e, the totality of Israel.
bill4long 5 months ago
@ProfMTH and while you're at it, why is one party singular and the other party plural consistently?
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bill4long 5 months ago
What about Isaiah 9, where it says the messiah will be called the "mighty god, everlasting father, prince of peace."
Doesn't that prove that the messiah will be divine or God in the flesh? Wouldn't that apply to Jesus?
TheGoogler77 5 months ago
@TheGoogler77 Do you regard Jesus to be the "eternal father"? And what peaceful kingdom did Jesus ever reign over?
ProfMTH 5 months ago
@ProfMTH what *does* Isaiah 9 mean?
bill4long 5 months ago
I am more and more convinced that science and literacy are religion's worst enemy. At a time when most were illiterate and the iron fist was poised to descend on "free thinkers", they had a pretty damn good thing going. Isaiah 7:14 has been a real annoyance to me since I read the entire chapter, to find that religion has been lying to the sheep. It is impossible for me to believe that not one "theologian" after reading Isaiah 7 realized it wasn't referring to Jesus at all. Excellent job!
brightsorcerer 5 months ago
@brightsorcerer Thanks a lot.
ProfMTH 5 months ago
until i started watching debates on YT about religion and gods existence ,i had no idea how unscrupulous ,irrational and dishonest religious appologists were prepared to be in defending their scriptural works .these clips by profmth illustrate that the use such openly devious chicanery has a very long tradition in christology .
really though ,given the terrain that such hapless appologists are required to defend ,they have very little other recourse .their ground is simply not defensible .
woodenmajor 6 months ago
hey man i have an spanish bible it say that marry was going to call him EMANUEL,they is in english language.
virgen is incorrect young woman is correct., the book of mathew is corrupted.
israel is the servant and JESUS to isaih 43:10 talks about the servant JESUS man and isaiah 53 says he was wounded, why you like to denied GODS word.
tecovsyou 6 months ago
Oops! disregard my previous post!
fatdaddyherb 6 months ago
@fatdaddyherb lol No problem.
ProfMTH 6 months ago
The Jews did not say the Rebbe is the Messiah, nor did he said so. We Jews do not need a G-D because we already have Hashem. Deut Chapter 18 is clear- no new Torahs, no new doctrines. The Shema is clear only one G-D and Creator. Christians need to stop mis quoting or Torah is fit the nonsense.
Rabbi Dr. Katherine Hans Von Rotes Schild Zitler
katherine101able 6 months ago
@2black4bet
"Emmanuel" means "God with us", not "my savior" or "Lord". No one in the Bible ever calls Jesus by this name.
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 7 months ago
He not only the one who created and justifies you but he is also the one who transforms or glorifies you. So when Matthew says they will call him Emmanuel he is not in error but is speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "every knee will bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the FATHER"(Philippians 2:11) Even Mary the mother of Jesus calls him "my savior" So Mtw was right "they" or everyone including Mary- who named him Jesus- shall call him "Emmanuel"
2black4bet 7 months ago
"And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior" Luke 1:46-47 The idea of "Messiah" in orthodox Hebrew culture was that God himself will dwell with man. This was accomplished through Christ permanently by way of the Holy Spirit given to us by Christ who had many names. Unlike western culture names were more of a description of your purpose not so much your identity. Mary here says "she rejoiced in God my SAVIOR" not God my Jesus.
2black4bet 7 months ago
He is also called mighty counselor, the great I AM, the alpha and the omega, the prince of peace, the word of God, our redeemer the lamb of God Jesus and Emmanuel. Should Mary had named him all these names his birth certificate would be enormous.The Hebrew culture is not high on names for purely identification purposes as we are in the west.You were named by your description so really since God or Christ is self existent He really has no name since HE existed before there was a word for "name"
2black4bet 7 months ago
Why worry,the bible makes no sense anyway.Talking snakes,virgin births,people being turned to salt,fine years ago when people had no grasp of science and reality but now it just seems outdated and a bit strange.Seriously listening to these religious texts I can feel my brain turning numb its so boring and irrelevant.Bare in mind it was done in times when having a slave with no testicles was considered cool,that's how stupid and insane people were back then.
BenPN1000 7 months ago
tru video, for more information read the Holly Quran and see how ALLAH (god) explain the distroys of the holly text by jews and christians.
peace
jiKurdistan 7 months ago
I bow to you, good sir, and your incredible knowledge of the Judeo-Christian texts.
PrincessCarltheI 8 months ago
@PrincessCarltheI lol Well, thanks. Not sure 'incredible' is applicable, but I appreciate the sentiment. ;-)
ProfMTH 8 months ago
sence there was no christians until the romans invented it 450 yrs after jesus's death jese nor his decipals were christians. christianity as we know it is about 450 yrs ago when the kind of england broke with the caTHOLIOC CHURCH AFTER HE WAS REFUSED A DIVORCE
otherworldtrader1 8 months ago
@otherworldtrader1 In Jesus's time, people who believed that He was Messiah were simply called "believers." This group, which grew rapidly after Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection, was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles. Because they followed the teachings of Jesus they weren't permitted to worship in Temple and so they met in one another's homes. And, please, let's not credit Henry VIII for "Christianity as we know it." It's not Christianity as I know it.
SavedandSound 2 months ago
It is impressive how you seem to do what you claim others did. I will pray for you.
macpapasmurf 8 months ago
@macpapasmurf "It is impressive how you seem to do what you claim others did."
What do you mean?
ProfMTH 8 months ago
Luke 1
34. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Mary herself saying that, she had not been with any man.
The messenger of the Highest saying that, her firstborn will be begotten by the Holy Spirit.
archpolice 9 months ago
@archpolice - Correction: from my own statement, "begotten by the Holy Spirit".
It should have said, "The Son of God was begotten by the power of the Highest (Yahweh)".
John 1 (begotten of the Father)
14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Mark 1 (my beloved Son)
11. And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
archpolice 9 months ago
Okey, let us debate. First of all, you must do a commentary about your messiah, rebbe Menachem Schneerson that not fulfil any prophecy of TANACH and now is considered god by his followers, Guess, a little god that not achieve his resuscitation.Your rebbe is a miserable fellow.Yeshua was pierced, his death was by hemorrhage...
50crol 10 months ago
@50crol What the hell are you talking about? Schneerson is not my messiah. You know what? Thanks for letting me know early in this exchange that you're a nut. At least I know what I'm dealing it--more correctly, done dealing with.
ProfMTH 10 months ago
@50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )->thats a zero bro.
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nem ^^
k4erf 10 months ago
@k4erf Emmanouel
Emmanuel = "God with us" the title applied to the Messiah, born of the virgin, Mt 1:23, Is. 7:14, because Jesus was God united with man, and showed that God was dwelling with man
Lexicons - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard -
larryg529 9 months ago
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Emmanouel
Emmanuel = "God with us" the title applied to the Messiah, born of the virgin, Mt 1:23, Is. 7:14, because Jesus was God united with man, and showed that God was dwelling with man
Lexicons - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard -
larryg529 9 months ago
@50crol @50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nothing else matters
k4erf 10 months ago
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@50crol @50crol moron..i BELIEVE! you have faitH (d`oh, so many good analyzers and all of them being the failers(with an QI of 2 digits) ...btw i`ve made the crack-100%-, you`re around ...50%?-this is only for ProfMTH- you`re just a 0 )
Let me purify this: YOU DONT have FAITH in any religious book-bible and tanach- not excluded-and though you dare placing your FAITH into tanach so can you denny the bible? hello...wtf? FFS, READ "through" the ideas.Words have no meaning-nothing else matters
k4erf 10 months ago
Yeshua hamashiach. This argument is very pathetical, any scholar get demolish it.
50crol 10 months ago
@50crol If it's so easy to demolish, then do so.
ProfMTH 10 months ago
I love the comments made by Christians demonstrating their blind faith rather than actually attempting to make some sort of argument. Sorry guys, but not everyone is so easily convinced.
Satantransvertdeath 10 months ago
It is not talking about israel the country it is talking about Jacob whos name became Israel
elirox100 10 months ago
your not really interested in the truth bye
rbmath 11 months ago
@rbmath "your [sic] not really interested in the truth bye"
Oh, but I am. If you're ever ready to come to terms with it, please be sure to let me know.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
See note on 42:6–7. that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth. A clear statement of salvation's worldwide scope, a theme that Acts develops by quoting this text (see Acts 1:8; 13:47).
rbmath 11 months ago
Isa. 49:5–6 It is too light a thing. It is too small a task to redeem only the tribes of Jacob (ethnic Israel). It is clear here that the servant, though he embodies Israel (v. 3), is nevertheless distinct from Israel, and has a calling to serve Israel and beyond. Far from failing, the servant is declared by God to be the only hope of the world. a light for the nations.
rbmath 11 months ago
Isa. 49:4 The servant confesses his sense of failure due to Israel's poor response (cf. v. 7; 53:1). yet. The servant does not turn from God in cynical unbelief; he accepts emotional suffering and frustrating toil with confidence that God will reward him.
rbmath 11 months ago
The Nation of Israel is called the servant. Isa 41:8, 42:19, 43:10, 44:1-2,21, 45:4, 48:20. The Messiah is called the servant. Isa 42:1-17, 49:3,5-7, 50:10, 52:13, 53:11. SEE ESV Study bible NOTE on. Isa. 42:1–9 The second Servant Song (49:1–13), which clarifies that the servant is distinct from Israel, . to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him- If you are a new Christian watching these propaganda videos ask for help. their are answers. 1Co 2:14
rbmath 11 months ago
@rbmath "The Messiah is called the servant. Isa 42:1-17...."
Please cite the specific passage(s) in which the Messiah is mentioned in Isaiah 42:1-17.
"The Messiah is called the servant...[Isaiah] 49:3, 5-7...."
Odd then, isn't it, that in Isaiah 49:3--the verse that starts off the portion you claim has the Messiah called the servant--it says, "You are my servant, ISRAEL, in whom I will display my splendor" (emphasis added). You might want to read your Bible more closely.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
(con't) @rbmath "Isaiah 50:10"
Where does that say anything about the Messiah?
"52:13"
Where does that call the Messiah the servant?
"the servant is distinct from Israel"
Quite the opposite. As I show in the video quite clearly, in the servant songs the servant is consistently identified as Israel. Even in one of the passages you (wrongly) claim has the Messiah called the servant (Isaiah 49:3-7), the servant is called Israel: "You are my servant, Israel...."
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH .. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has pointed out your errors and your lack of following the flow of the letter it does not change that fact of the scriptures already pointed out Isa 49:5-7 where it speaks of an individual gathering Israel... to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him... All you do is show how spiritually blind you really are 1Co 2:14. thank full you really have no effect on true Christians since they will see through your propaganda.
rbmath 11 months ago
@rbmath " I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has pointed out your errors...."
LOL! I've just spent 2 comment boxes pointing out your errors & requesting that you be specific about passages you were vague about. Now you say you've pointed out *my* errors. Very funny. Alas, it's also a typical apologetic tactic: the apologist just ignores everything that's been said in response and pretends s/he has prevailed--not to mention your usual blather about "spiritual blindness" and so on.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH. Try to actually follow the flow of letter from ESV Study bible. Isa. 49:3 my servant, Israel. Comparing vv. 5–6, this servant Israel restores the nation Israel. The servant is the true embodiment of what the nation failed to be, namely, the one in whom I will be glorified.
rbmath 11 months ago
@buzzobug The holy Trinity was made up by Christians who think God and Jesus are the same therefore not reliable. This is proven since it’s not mentioned in the Old Testament.
samfofis 11 months ago
One like the Son fo Man, Coining with the clouds of heaven, He came to the Ancient of Days. read on. the Jewish high priest knew what Jesus was saying to them that here He is God , the God of Israel and so they tore their clothes , , what does the book of Daniel say about the Son of Man, then to HIm was given dominion and glory and a Kingdom. read on. the Lord Jesus is God the Son.
buzzobug 11 months ago
hmmm, in Matthew, C-26, verses 63- 65, " I put you under oath by the living God: Tell us if YOu are the Christ, the Song of God", 64, Jesus said to him, "it is as you said. Nevertheless , I say to you, hereafter you will see the Song of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven", 65, Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, "He has spoken blasphemy!..... interpert that since Jesus is going back to the book of Daniel, OT, chapter6, 13- b, One like
buzzobug 11 months ago
when Jesus was standing before the Jewish people , book of John, He told them that "before Abraham was I AM", the Jewish People understood that Jesus was claiming to be God, the God of Israel. and what did they do? they picked up stones to stone him. and He asked them why they were going to stone him. and what did they say to him? They said , "You a mere man claim to be GOD", read it and what do you say?
buzzobug 11 months ago
the Lord Jesus is God , no matter how much you want to twist it. He is the Lamb of God just as John said, and He is the only way to Salvation as God showed the way in the OT and then did it in the NT. IT is said that the OT is in the NT revealed and the NT is in the OT conceled.
buzzobug 11 months ago
@buzzobug "the Lord Jesus is God , no matter how much you want to twist it."
This video series refutes the claim that Jesus was the Messiah. Your merely asserting that Jesus is a god does not demonstrate anything nor does it refute the case I've laid out in this series.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH , book of Titus, NT, C-1 verse 13-14, ..... of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for HImself His own special people, zealous for good works. ", I ask you would a Jew in that day have said this? , NT, book of Ephesians, C-1 verse, 7, IN HIm we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His Grace. Tell me who shed their own blood on the cross ...
buzzobug 11 months ago
@ProfMTH , in the NT., Acts, 20, verse 28, "Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood", do you read that? ONLY GOD can redeem mankind since man fell into sin through Adam and Eve. That is the mercy and Love of God. If God was only just in His dealings with mankind then we would all go to hell forever. God showed his plan in the OT and then did it in N
buzzobug 11 months ago
@buzzobug "If God was only just in His dealings with mankind then we would all go to hell forever."
So redemption and salvation are unjust?
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH , what are you talking about? Redemption and salvation are a free gift from God and He showed that in his love by coming in the first advent , the second advent is when the Lord Jesus will return to judge all of us., at the last day, when ever that is, book of John and the book of Daniel. Book of 1st John, God is Love. . just as God is Just and in the book of Psalm,s , Mercy trumpts. over Judgement.
buzzobug 11 months ago
@buzzobug "what are you talking about?"
You said, "If God was only just in His dealings with mankind then we would all go to hell forever." This indicates that you believe that your god is *other* than just in his dealings with humankind. Therefore I asked whether redemption and salvation are unjust. You've already suggested they're not just. I'd simply like you to complete the circle. Are they unjust?
"Mercy trumps over judgment."
So mercy is unjust?
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH , i guess my mind is not big enough to understand you. Jesus is not some small god, He is the God who spoke and the universe came to be. God is perfectly just in his dealings, in that in Adam and Eve,s fall in to sin. Sin entered the world then and it is passed onto all mankind. i know from experience. So since i am a sinner and you are too, then that means for us to be redeemed from our sin we need a savior and in the Bible it shows we need a perfect sacrifice , so God
buzzobug 11 months ago
so God became the perfect sacrifice for mankind,s sin. Just as the book of Acts says. 20, verse 38, as i have already said. So God showed us Mercy and He is Just . Sin demands justice be done. and it was done at the cross. So God offers us His Mercy. If we don,t want it then we will suffer after we pass away. And i am going to see the Lord Jesus face to face. and He is not some small god. Those who do evil and have rejected the Lord Jesus will spend eternity seperated from.
buzzobug 11 months ago
@buzzobug "i guess my mind is not big enough to understand you."
Since I'm just a regular guy asking you a straightforward question about your claim, I doubt the size of your mind is an issue here. What I suspect *is* the issue is that you haven't thought your claim through. You went on for 2 comment boxes and *still* didn't answer the question. You claimed that if your god dealt with us exclusively as a matter of justice, we'd all go to hell. So is salvation inconsistent with justice?
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH , it is simmple in my opinion, all mankind sinned by nature, {Adam and Eve}, and by choice. I know by choice. Ha, Salvation is the free gift from God and He paid the price by coming into this world , the one He created, and by living the perfect life and then giving His life upon the Cross. He paid the price in blood, acts 20, Justice, He paid the debt, and then He was raised 3 days later and so proved that He is God. And one day i am going to see Him face to face and you can to
buzzobug 11 months ago
@buzzobug Is salvation inconsistent with justice?
ProfMTH 11 months ago
At first: Jesus write nothing in the Holy Scriptures, At second: they were in hands of priests and kings, so they have added many words into Holy Scriptures to support their interests and rulerships. But in order to distinguish whether there are true words in the Holy Scriptures at all or none, we have to use the Hebrew Gematria, to see that it contains not only the story of the Flood, but also the story of someone called יֵשׁוּעַ הַמָּשִׁיחַ-"Jesus the Christ". Maybe he is another one.
776AD 11 months ago
@776AD I haven't a clue what you're trying to say here.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH
Hi, Could You pls try to make a history of a flood, if You'd collect in one place Hebrew words, sum of letters of each word is equal to the same number? 410 for example: אֲרָרָט-"Ararat"=410 ; הָהֶרֶר[ha.he-r.er]-(Hebrew) "mountain-chain"=410; זֻגֹּת-[Zuggot]-"pairs"=410; קָדוֹשׁ-[Qadosh]-"holy"=410. יִשְׁפֹּךְ-[Yishpoch]-"He will poure"=410; שָׁפָל-[Shafal]-"down"; מֵימֵי רַעַם-[Meimey raam]-"waters of thunder"; שְׁמִינִי-[Shmini]-"eighth"; שָׁלַף-[Shalaf]-"He will take off".
776AD 11 months ago
Hey Prof! Can I get a source for what origen said about Isaiah 53?
generosos87 11 months ago
@generosos87 "Hey Prof! Can I get a source for what origen said about Isaiah 53?"
I cited the source in the video, i.e., Origen's "Against Celsus."
ProfMTH 11 months ago
@ProfMTH haha my bad, I missed that part.
excuse me while I go into a corner and weep about my idiocy
generosos87 11 months ago
@generosos87 lol Not to worry.
ProfMTH 11 months ago
sorry, the name jesus has a definition, given by the angel Gabriel ."the lord saves".
hence "the crucifixion" so by faith are we saved. through our transgressions inherited by adam and eve.that is why the the world is not stable.so there has to be a judgement day.i am running on faith in christ.there are 33 million gods,but i believe in the one sent by the Most-High.
gibsongold1970 1 year ago
"Behold. i send my messenger and he will clear the way before me"
this is clear and not distorted.the baptist also testify's.
the temple was destroyed now twice.
when the third temple is built it will usher in the time of anti-christ.
christ will return coming on the clouds of heaven with great power and glory and cast all unbelievers into the lake of fire.i believe that would be the final judgement day of the Lord.
gibsongold1970 1 year ago
@gibsongold1970 What, if anything, does your comment have to do with this video series?
ProfMTH 1 year ago
The very last scene of Life of Brian, Monty Python, that is Christianity
boblajoe1 1 year ago
Perfect!
ACLu71 1 year ago
@ACLu71 Thanks.
ProfMTH 1 year ago
the last thing I want to say is that the prophecy has in fact been fulfilled because the book of Luke even talks further about what these verses are speaking of. Go and read Luke 1:26-27, Luke 1:30-31
wrightdevin39 1 year ago
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wrightdevin39 1 year ago
would happen to see and have the privelege of meeting the man who would later become the risen Christ and Savior.
wrightdevin39 1 year ago
ProfMTH if you would look at the previous verse in Isaiah7:13 it says "Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also?" clearly God through Isaiah is not talking to one person here but rather in the plural form of the word "you" he is speaking to the entire royal line of David because he knew that it wasnt just one but many who were guilty of what Isa. 7:13 says. And in Matthew 1:23 it says "they" it means Mary, the wise men, etc. anyone-
wrightdevin39 1 year ago
Whats the video called where they show how many religions has a "Jesus"? :P
im4everskilled 1 year ago
The Bible makes it definitely and absolutely clear in 1 John 2:22 who every says that Yeshua (JESUS) is or was not the Messiah is a liar and therefore is an Anti-Christ and reject both God the Father and God the Son.
knightsofstjoan2004 1 year ago
look in ezekial,,IT says 'israel is full of violence'..in isaiah it says'there was no violence in him'..so..hmm.HOW CAN ISAIAH 53 BE TALKING ABOUT THE NATION ISRAEL?.but,,i am not a xtian and i do not believe jesus is G-D
racheland 1 year ago
@racheland "look in ezekial,,IT says 'israel is full of violence'..in isaiah it says'there was no violence in him'..so..hmm.HOW CAN ISAIAH 53 BE TALKING ABOUT THE NATION ISRAEL?"
How have you come to conclude that a passage in Ezekiel determines the meaning of Isaiah? It's an exceedingly odd conclusion. Moreover, it is nothing more than attempt--albeit it a clumsy one--to steer around the argument regarding the Servant Songs in Isaiah that is presented in this video.
ProfMTH 1 year ago