Added: 1 year ago
From: CJCA915
Views: 18,731
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:

All Comments (125)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • This is so good. Well done!

    (I hope the Blu-Ray edition of the future will be even more awesome.)

  • are you gonna make some. that was very good graphics almost looked real.

  • yes just type star trek borg. on youtube youll see [q] john de lancie click that youlll see this half hour episode in 3 parts

  • @mrlogicalman1 Yea, that's a fan type thing, that's not an actual episode.

  • let me find it on youtube then you can see

  • its called star trek borg i think on youtube about the real q as a narrator and is in it . he helps a starfleet ensign fight borg by joining a crew . every time he dies . q lets him try a different tactic

  • @mrlogicalman1 I'm still not familiar with what you're talking about...

  • do you mean that one where real q helps an ensign fight borg to help his dad if not wer is it

  • @mrlogicalman1 huh, what episode?

  • in that case my best friend how about some borg and q stories

  • @mrlogicalman1 I've already did the first contact with the Borg by Q in TNG... and all that.

  • In case you haven't noticed I do CG animations on my channel...

  • this scene is a fake copy of yesterdays enterprise

  • I think you would like watching my review of this episode. watch?v=6P7S_hUlRpQ&list=UU955­L8TGwzXhVvg0r3_1jmw&index=1&fe­ature=plcp

  • This is really cool. How long did it take you to do this?

  • brilliant! much better than some of the others out there and at the same time staying true to the episode

  • When are you going to finish this scene? Though I'd like to see you use the superior Prologic model rather than the other one.

  • I rather liked it. I like TNG-style battles, where it's a bit more controlled. It was also good that because combat was expensive to film, it was interesting or special when it happened, as opposed to acting as filler in episodes where the writers couldn't think of anything else to do to fill the time.

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich You mean like all of DS9 from Season Four on?

  • @JohnnyC133 well, not *all* of DS9 from season 4 onwards, thought that is about the time that it got cheaper to do. While it happened more often than I would have chosen myself, DS9 still had some good, consistent character development too. I actually found Voyager's last couple of seasons to be a slightly worse culprit for pointless combat.

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich True, Voyager did have lots of pointless combat but at least Voyager didn't try to recreate World War II in space.

  • @JohnnyC133 Generally true, but I can't help thinking of "the killing game" where the crew of Voyager (okay, and the Hirogen) recreated World War II... and it was kinda in space lol.

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich Siege of ARWhatever - Guadalcanal

    Battles of Chintoka - Leyte Gulf and Midway

    The final attack on Cardassia - Operation Downfall

    The Changeling infiltration of Earth - the Japanese American internment/wartime civil liberties issue

    Gul Dukat - Space Hitler

    The Maquis - uh, well, the Maquis

  • @JohnnyC133 I didn't say that the Dominion War/WWII was not a reasonably apt comparison, just that an actual WWII episode of Voyager is the first thing that comes to mind if someone puts the terms "World War II" and "space" together on a Star Trek Thread.

    PS - you could also compare the Romulan entry to the opening of the Eastern Front.

  • There no harm in creating an 'alternate ' version of this...love to see you complete this !!!

  • Comment removed

  • How about making this battle where the Enterprise D actually fights back? In "Peace" mode as in normal timeline, she's carrying 13 Phasers and torpedo launcher capable of launching multiple torpedo in a single volley. We get a couple phaser shots and that's it. This is a War Build Enterprise, it should be even more beefed up, C.Mon paramount this is almost as bad as Generations when the D is sacrificed for a high res Enterprise E. ;)

  • it would be interesting to remake the battle and show the battle of the enterprise C with the romulans as well

  • I would love to see this completed !!!

  • I wouldn't bother remaking this battle... it was boring.

  • @stalkingalizee I personally liked it.

  • @CJCA915 The Final Battle of DS9 is worthy of remake... this not so much.

  • @CJCA915 I love the episode and the setup of the battle...but the flagship should have been able to get off a lot more torpedo volleys and phaser strikes.

  • dude, that was awesome......

  • Thats what always annoyed me about the many battle scenes in tng they ent d is a powerful ship but its incredibly slow at firing back and when it does it always opens with a lousy shot from its primary phaser banks!

  • @2490debrick True, but to be fair it DID demonstrate considerable power in other scenes. Also, I seem to remember Gene saying something about wanting it to be less militaristic and more diplomatic than earlier starfleet designs, before the Next Generation was put into production.

  • @Idazmi7 Gene created too many unrealistic enemies i.e. Q, Borg and other silly things such as i.e. Time Travel and the Mirror Universe! Otherwise I guess so the only other times it has shown any form of Power was up against the Dominion and Cardassians!

  • @2490debrick Star Trek is supposed to be taken seriously... sometimes. The rest of the time it is fun fiction. Also, attacking Gene Roddenberry in any Trek discussion would be counterproductive: He invented Star Trek himself.

    A book: The Making Of Star Trek, details how much he went through to create the more scientific parts of the show, and how CBS just LOVED to use 'creative license' on those parts on whim. Gene did too, but he always took those parts out of the "physical" universe.

  • @2490debrick Also, Gene was most directly involved with the Star Trek movies, post The Motion Picture. Starfleet seemed more serious then, and the technicolor turtlenecks were replaced by red-and-black uniforms.

  • @Idazmi7 I liked those uniforms very formal me likey likey! I wish they sold proper Star Fleet uniforms to us fans instead of shit ones that aren't cannon!!!

  • @2490debrick Unfortunately, not even Mr. Roddenberry controlled the Star Trek "canon" that much: the network did, as usual.

  • @Idazmi7

    I respect Roddenberry, but I don't understand the mainstream unfavorable viewpoints towards the networks who brought his ideas to life. I'm not picking on you, but I just don't get it. Having an original idea like Roddenberry had doesn't go far without the production entities that don't get much thanks for taking the chance on it. Roddenberry was paid, but didn't take the same risks as the networks. The networks benefitted in the end, but when a guy sells an idea, he sold the idea.

  • @TheJediCharles Under Roddenberry, eight of Star Trek's episodes were nominated for one of science-fiction’s top awards, the Hugo Award, in the category "Best Dramatic Presentation". In 1967, the nominated episodes were "The Naked Time", "The Corbomite Maneuver", and "The Menagerie". In 1968, all nominees were Star Trek episodes. The Animated Series was the first Star Trek series to win an Emmy Award. Under the more "network friendly" Star Trek NextGen, there were no Emmy-worthy episodes.

  • @Idazmi7

    Your comment does not indict the worthiness of networks.

    It's an indictment to the worthiness of awards.

  • @TheJediCharles When the network got control, Trek changed, and many fans left. I give an example:

    Star Trek: The Original Series - "The Menagerie" --> Captain Pike is kidnapped by powerful aliens...

    Star Trek: The Next Generation - "Encounter at Farpoint" --> Captain Picard is kidnapped by a powerful alien...

    And yet one is much, much better than the other. You can see them both for free at startrek.com

  • @Idazmi7 Well, "The Menagerie" is really a flashback/revisit to the first pilot, of "The Cage."

  • @CJCA915 I know. And it either one is better written than "Encounter at Farpoint". So is "Where no Man has gone before".

  • @Idazmi7

    And I don't value popular consensus any more that pop awards. Please, just speak for your own preferences and don't feel the need to prop up your opinions with outside validation. I'm more impressed with you speaking for yourself without it.

    One is better than the other? The Trek captains are persistently kidnapped by powerful aliens. I don't see your pattern.

  • @TheJediCharles Actually watch them, moron.

  • @Idazmi7

    Look, if you have your preferences, that's fine. We all do. If your preferences center around that which Roddenberry was more directly involved with (and espouse it's objective and not halo-effect), you're free to. None of that is my issue.

    Without networks, there would be no Trek programs. They'd still be a mere great idea in a creative guy's head. Not all of Roddenberry's ideas were great and some of the network over-rides were good moves.

  • @TheJediCharles Personally, I think Gene's whole idea of the future was great... and the network wanted to change things to make it more exciting for the viewers... Roddenberry took issue to this on a few occasions... in fact, I've talked to Andrew Probert the designer of the Enterprise Refit, and Enterprise D, and he's even said the studio, etc. don't listen to what the creator of something does... which is why some of the stuff on the Enterprise D does what it shouldn't...

  • @CJCA915

    Well, Gene had a lot of lofty idealistic images of humanity in the future, and while it sounds like a wonderful place to live in, it doesn't make good television. If everyone cooperates, has no character flaws, there is no war, strife, etc., and there's a technology to fix everything, there isn't much of a foundation to build drama.

    Again, the way I see it, metaphorically, Gene was the brain, but the network was the body. Without the network, his ideas would be only that... ideas.

  • Comment removed

  • @TheJediCharles Well, Probert is the designer, so I think he has better credence in how his ships should work, than the network...

    Like I said, I prefer Roddenberry's views... not what what the network tried to spin it into... same with JJ's recent Trek film... it barely has anything of Roddenberry's vision in it...

  • @CJCA915

    1. the comment I made concerning Probert was made when I mistook you for Idazmil7. I wouldn't have said it had I realized it was from someone else.

    2. If I'm pressed to answer it, I don't care about Probert's views for the same reason a stuntman doesn't get to decide the plot, Probert's a model designer. Gene himself said the story takes front seat to the technology.

    I don't subscribe to the sainting of Gene or the demonizing of the networks. I see it as trite and limited.

  • @TheJediCharles Well, I do believe in Gene's vision... and not what the network wanted to turn it into... some fanciful action series... Star Trek is and always will be about the betterment of mankind, through medical achievements, technological achievements, etc. I don't want Star Trek to be another Star Wars... I want Star Trek to remain, scientific, and about the betterment of mankind.

  • @CJCA915

    It's funny, I've said the same thing before, but inversely, that I didn't want Star Wars to become another Star Trek (by way of non-stop sequel films that don't deal in the Skywalkers), and I say that in sincerity as I deeply enjoy both universes, including Star Wars' being finite.

    Anyway, I already understand the "Gene vision" thing. But after a point, it's a dead-end in terms of a ongoing drama. It's utterly binding and restrictive. That's not a statement of preference. It's true.

  • @TheJediCharles That statement about a "Dead end, in terms of Drama" is rather dubious, have you seen Star Trek 6?

  • @CJCA915

    Anyway, this issue is pretty simple; was the network more a force to make Gene's Trek possible or a force to inhibit it. I'm not arguing your statements (and Idazmi7's) are categorically untrue. It's more a matter of emphasis, gratitude, and being realistic about the difficulties.

    Gene's dream future may not deal with the limits of money, technology, time and human frailties, but our universe obviously does, and I think the networks have more reason to be thanked than scorned.

  • @TheJediCharles This statement is fine.

  • @Idazmi7

    The great Oz has spoken.

  • @TheJediCharles Good points.

  • not bad...

    but it would have loved to see the following:

    Picard: Hold cours Mr Crusher, continiously fire all Phasers !

  • Cool... but the phaser beams from the D seem to be a bit too thick. I hope you get back to his project!

  • @terrywest111 Yea, I will, right now, I'm working on VFX shots from the TOS episode "The Tholian Web."

  • Yay!!!

  • @SR71ABCD About?

  • I always wish NG would have spent some money on other Klingon ships and not used and reused the Bird of Prey to death, For god sake a bird could last about 5 seconds against a Galaxy class, One show that needs new effects is NG!

  • @Megatron65 Well, the Bird of Prey was the signature Klingon vessel, just as the Romulan Warbird became the Romulans signature vessel, and so on.

  • @Megatron65 The bird of prey is the B'rel class vessel you see in Star Trek VI, and mostly in the DS9 dominion war. The ships in this video look like a bird of prey, but they are in fact much larger and are actually K'vort class... their "wings" also stay much higher up and don't move down like a B'rel at battlestations, they aren't technically a bird of prey, but yes, they did use the "model" too much and should of invested in designing more ships.

  • @rossco010 Various designations have been used throughout the years, creating the impression that "Bird-of-Prey" is merely a generic term for the ship's appearance, whereas the actual types or classes are called B'rel, K'Vort or D-12.

    Here, the wings are in flight mode...

  • @CJCA915 The K'vort is much larger than the B'rel, and it's wings are fixed upwards in "flight mode".

  • @rossco010 I know that...

  • Not a bad try...the details are there, except that all three of the Birds-of-Prey were attacking the Enterprise-D where in this simulation you have only one or two firing. You also might want to include a simulated outside-of-ship battle sequence in parts where the cameras were only showing the Main Bridge.

  • @PCCphoenix Well, this is a rather old video... I may redo this after my current project.

    I also didn't finish the sequence either... I made each shot as close to exactly as it was in the show...

  • @PCCphoenix

    Good point, it's too faithful to the original. Maybe if it had some Legacy mechanics, it would look even better at filling the gaps.

  • @dragonknightleader1 What do you mean by "Legacy mechanics"?

  • @PCCphoenix

    From the game "Star Trek: Legacy."

  • the music when the Klingons appear sounds like Star Wars XD

  • @BMWM3GTRLOVER Not to me, but idk.

  • Pew Pew... Pew Pew

  • Epic!!

  • This video is 47 seconds long. 8D

  • @EVAUnit4A and...

  • @CJCA915

    Dude, c'mon- The 47s of Star Trek! Hello-! XD

  • @EVAUnit4A I still don't get it, perhaps you would be kind enough to explain, what is so great about the time length of this video...

  • @CJCA915

    Ugh, I can't post links in comments. I'll PM you...

  • @CJCA915

    Ugh, a friend-lock!? Fine- YOU PM ME.

  • @CJCA915

    He means that 47 is a kind of "magical" number which appears all over Star Trek, for an explanation you can search "star trek 47" on google then klick on the Memory-Alpha link. (Why can't I post links in Youtube comments?)

  • I think my favorite part was where we first see the Klingon ships. You recreated that scene perfectly.

  • They were Birds of Prey, not Cruisers other than that good work.

  • @racefan32 Ummm, the audio is from the TNG episode of the same name, also, The B'rel-class Bird of Prey is a scout vessel, used for espionage, skirmishes and raids, while the K'Vort-class Bird of Prey is a light cruiser, the Birds of Prey in this episode were cruisers.

  • Finish it!

  • @CrimsonMystery lol.

  • No need to scrap it. You make very good videos. I'm certain you could improve upon what Paramount did 21 years ago. Perhaps you could be recruited to spearhead the inevitable Star Trek, The Next Generation remastered series.

  • @basherman69 haha, I might redo this now that I have a higher quality Enterprise D model.

    I'm currently working on finishing up a VFX video of the TOS episode "Space Seed"

  • @CJCA915 I just went to get myself a drink, and I come back to see I got a response from you. Now that is what I call fast service. :)

    Good luck.

  • @basherman69 haha.

    Thanks.

  • You've come this far.

  • Go on. I did like your work.

  • I realize you are scrapping it, but I am having some of the same criticism of this as your other videos, that things jump around too much between cuts. The Klingon birds of prey attack from above, then it jumps as the Enterprise is firing torpedoes steeply below, then the Klingons are above again, then the Enterprise fires 'up' toward them. The relative positionings jump inconsistently. Overall I like your videos because so few folk are doing any except using clunky game engines.

  • @ChibiabosWolf Well, the shots were made to resemble the shots from the TNG episode.

  • That was pretty damn cool !!

  • Looks great so far. Play with the illumination a little bit (like you did in the Nemesis clip) and it will look perfect!

  • @XavierStorma Thanks, but I have kinda scrapped this project until a later date.

  • I hope you continue this project. Looks great so far.

  • Looks good. Why was it scrapped?

  • @VideoSpaceFX I just lost my will to finish it right now.

  • @CJCA915 Yer, I no the feeling!

  • @VideoSpaceFX lol, I mean, all the ideas I could make videos from, and I just have no will to do them sometimes, ya know?

  • @CJCA915 Yer, but this so far is good

  • ive seen that episode many times and youve done a great job :)

  • Needs better flashes and maybe shield effects, but that's really it. Nicely done, especially the movement - so smooth!

  • @deltanalliance Flashes?

    There are some shield effects, trying to get them as close as I can to the TNG original, but yea.

    Thanks.

  • Perfect!!!!

  • @CJCA915 I wish I want to learn how to do that but one day I will

  • @CaptainRoyMustang170 3D animation?

  • @CJCA915 Yeah but I might do producing might try it out

  • Nice! I hope you finish it someday!

  • @thedarkarcon4 Thx, me too. lol.

Loading...
Alert icon
0 / 00Unsaved Playlist Return to active list
    1. Your queue is empty. Add videos to your queue using this button:
      or sign in to load a different list.
    Loading...Loading...Saving...
    • Clear all videos from this list
    • Learn more