@SuperRezyser This piece will be performed in a concert given by the UC Berkeley Symphony Orchestra, on December 9, in the UC Campus. The programme of the concert also includes works by Bruckner and Sibelius. For more information, you can consult the Berkeley Department of Music website.
@SuperRezyser It'd definitely be difficult to seek out a performance of this piece, but I can say that I played it about a year and a half ago. It's not completely obsolete.
I was "forced" to listen to and study Penderecki (and other contemporaries) in college many moons ago, and hated most of it. But it put a seed in my mind, and that seed grew over the years into a huge tree. This is now arguably my favorite type of music.
I dont feel or see this as dark at all.It seems full of light their is light and heavy for me.Dens and sparse. Maybe listening to alot of music Varese,Boulez Berg,Stravinsky,Birtwhistle etc does not traditionalize or rob listener of initial human responses but gives them a more balanced ,informed continuum .My approach is not intellectual HERE. Withthis atmospheres,and threnody or pli selon pli I become a child again.I would love to see this notated.Must got to Univ of miami music library!
Penderecki has composed music for the opening ceremony at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Also, he wrote the musical score for the Andrzej Wajda film "Katyn". I recommend this film and the music. Penderecki is one of my favourite composers.
Penderecki....a man stands on a bridge...looking into the darkness below....a bird flies overhead....a car screeches to a halt.....three people jump out trying to stop the man from jumping......
Have you by any chance got the sheet music, because i am very interested in how you write this 'extreme' music...as i don't know how to notate the harsh spiky sounds that come from the strings section.
@MrPiano1994 Pendericki sometimes actually abandoned the traditional notation, so it is unlikely you will find sheet music, unless you play strings as well of course =)
@MrPiano1994 he used graphic notation to indicate what he wanted in every section of the orch. at one time or another throughout this piece (though he uses traditional Western notation as well).
If it sounds too odd, start with Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, and work your way through Bartok's string quartets (especially numbers 3 and 4), Prokofiev's 2nd symphony, Shostakovich's Fourth symphony, and then see if you can listen to Boris Tischenko's Cello Concerto. Listening to Schoenberg might help, and/or Anton Webern. You have to go gradually. See if you like the Scythian Suite, and then Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra. Soon you may be ready for K. Stockhausen.
It only sounds dark if you are unaccustomed to the music of composers since Bartok. It is a liberation from the old sound, to which we are inured. It is beneficial to free oneself from old associations and tonalities, in order to appreciate composers like Messiaen, Scelsi, and those who bring us new scales. Listening to Indian and Chinese music can help too. It's liberation of the soul.
@earlymusicof You're clearly well-versed in the history and theory of classical music, but I'd nevertheless disagree with your comment. If someone unaccustomed to this area of the genre describes Penderecki as 'dark', I'd value that judgement totally. They are approaching this music without 'baggage', and they're reacting to it on a natural, almost primeval level. Perhaps if you're able to categorise music into a historical context, you've lost sight of its initial, emotional power. It IS dark.
Even his first name looks Satanic... Anybody know why his music is SO dark and disturbing, especially given the fact that it was created long before The Shining?
Well, you might approach it this way: The name means "The Nature of Sound". Composers have always dealt with "sound", but have traditionally made an arbitrary distinction between "musical sound" (desirable) and "noise sound" (undesirable). You might say that with a piece like this, Penderecki is attempting to redefine what musical composition is by removing the distinction between "noise" and "music" sounds. All sounds are good and available for use in a musical composition. Good luck!
No, mi son spiegato male. Song è la parola sbagliata perchè song, cioè canzone, si usa solo per un pezzo cantato. In tutti gli altri casi si usa "pezzo" o "composizione". Poiché la "musica", senza ulteriore specificazione, viene identificata dal pubblico con la pop music, e la pop music è fatta (quasi) solo di canzoni, ecco che si è presa l'abitudine di definire "canzone" (song) qualsiasi pezzo di musica. Ma naturalmente c'è una gran quantità di musica al di fuori della canzone.
ah non ne ero a conoscienza, molto interessante! che dire.. ogni giorno si imparano cose nuove! grazie per la correzzione del termine e W le composizioni di Penderecki!
Wow. His use of strings are Amazing. I play a little guitar, but don't read music at all. I find it remarkable that this stuff can be written down on a page of sheet music. Thanks so much for sharing this, and all this New Classical music. I'm still learning. I Really Love this stuff! Thanks a lot NewMusicXX, for this, and ALL the Great music you share. It is appreciated.
Great ! Penderecki himself is conducting ?
Thanks
123must 1 month ago
Sempre stra-ordinario...
THX 4 the video
neoplastik 3 months ago in playlist Altri video di NewMusicXX
I'd really like to hear this live, but it seems this piece is not played anymore
SuperRezyser 4 months ago
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@SuperRezyser This piece will be performed in a concert given by the UC Berkeley Symphony Orchestra, on December 9, in the UC Campus. The programme of the concert also includes works by Bruckner and Sibelius. For more information, you can consult the Berkeley Department of Music website.
losli12 2 months ago
@SuperRezyser It'd definitely be difficult to seek out a performance of this piece, but I can say that I played it about a year and a half ago. It's not completely obsolete.
pjyazoo527 2 months ago
You think MAYBE!? he should go to a doctor?
BMNicolas 5 months ago
REDRUM
Heinrockable 5 months ago
Awesome, and highly influential.
I was "forced" to listen to and study Penderecki (and other contemporaries) in college many moons ago, and hated most of it. But it put a seed in my mind, and that seed grew over the years into a huge tree. This is now arguably my favorite type of music.
zenmachinefilms 7 months ago
it's odd, i feel like i want to die.
colqhounfucker 7 months ago
I dont feel or see this as dark at all.It seems full of light their is light and heavy for me.Dens and sparse. Maybe listening to alot of music Varese,Boulez Berg,Stravinsky,Birtwhistle etc does not traditionalize or rob listener of initial human responses but gives them a more balanced ,informed continuum .My approach is not intellectual HERE. Withthis atmospheres,and threnody or pli selon pli I become a child again.I would love to see this notated.Must got to Univ of miami music library!
lovesGenet 8 months ago
You are now entering the Twilight Zone.
logybear86 10 months ago
its like another reality, invisible but unscapble.
Pulgex 11 months ago
viva Penderecki!!
bernar15993848 1 year ago
Forever... and ever... and ever...
McSqueaky 1 year ago
every song i've heard of Penderecki is truly scary
aoiniina 1 year ago
Piękna ilustracja. Jestem zbudowana. GREAT !
justap20 1 year ago
Played this in orchestra....classic.
Saxation1 1 year ago 2
I must know what symphony orchestra played this.
XCantXEscapeXFateX 1 year ago
@XCantXEscapeXFateX It's the Polish Radio National Symphony Orchestra - the composer conducting
NewMusicXX 1 year ago 6
@NewMusicXX ACES UP!! Thank you so much
blindmansarrow 1 year ago
Penderecki has composed music for the opening ceremony at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Also, he wrote the musical score for the Andrzej Wajda film "Katyn". I recommend this film and the music. Penderecki is one of my favourite composers.
TheBeerNut1 1 year ago
@TheBeerNut1 Oh, sounds interesting! I'll have to check that out! :D
TheMouseAvenger 1 year ago
Penderecki....a man stands on a bridge...looking into the darkness below....a bird flies overhead....a car screeches to a halt.....three people jump out trying to stop the man from jumping......
ZJProz 1 year ago
The shining + penderecki = brillian idea!
dmarcini88 1 year ago
@dmarcini88 Amen! ^_^
TheMouseAvenger 1 year ago
Have you by any chance got the sheet music, because i am very interested in how you write this 'extreme' music...as i don't know how to notate the harsh spiky sounds that come from the strings section.
MrPiano1994 1 year ago
@MrPiano1994 Pendericki sometimes actually abandoned the traditional notation, so it is unlikely you will find sheet music, unless you play strings as well of course =)
TheR3volutionary 1 year ago
@MrPiano1994 he used graphic notation to indicate what he wanted in every section of the orch. at one time or another throughout this piece (though he uses traditional Western notation as well).
Saxation1 1 year ago
It's just music, "just like picture's in a book, it isn't real." It may be only pictures but very disturbing. I always call this "The Twins'Theme"
DerekBayRoberts1 1 year ago
"Danny! Danny boy... I'm right behind ya!"
Synobyte07 1 year ago
If it sounds too odd, start with Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, and work your way through Bartok's string quartets (especially numbers 3 and 4), Prokofiev's 2nd symphony, Shostakovich's Fourth symphony, and then see if you can listen to Boris Tischenko's Cello Concerto. Listening to Schoenberg might help, and/or Anton Webern. You have to go gradually. See if you like the Scythian Suite, and then Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra. Soon you may be ready for K. Stockhausen.
earlymusicof 2 years ago
It only sounds dark if you are unaccustomed to the music of composers since Bartok. It is a liberation from the old sound, to which we are inured. It is beneficial to free oneself from old associations and tonalities, in order to appreciate composers like Messiaen, Scelsi, and those who bring us new scales. Listening to Indian and Chinese music can help too. It's liberation of the soul.
earlymusicof 2 years ago
@earlymusicof You're clearly well-versed in the history and theory of classical music, but I'd nevertheless disagree with your comment. If someone unaccustomed to this area of the genre describes Penderecki as 'dark', I'd value that judgement totally. They are approaching this music without 'baggage', and they're reacting to it on a natural, almost primeval level. Perhaps if you're able to categorise music into a historical context, you've lost sight of its initial, emotional power. It IS dark.
TheMightyHartley 8 months ago
Even his first name looks Satanic... Anybody know why his music is SO dark and disturbing, especially given the fact that it was created long before The Shining?
DMenase24 2 years ago
This makes me think of the very first scene of Cyborg 009 episode 1.
okayillgonow 2 years ago
my beer drunk soul like this !
SuicietyBoozer 2 years ago
Uno dei più rivoluzionari composers del XXmo secolo.
neoplastik 2 years ago
@neoplastik
I agree with you in that!
Zegismondo 2 years ago
Genial !!!!!
havaniko777 2 years ago
Hello danny, come and play with us....
fkndookee 2 years ago 32
Forever...and ever...and ever....
HomelyCooking 2 years ago
2001, a space odissey.
chapaitox 2 years ago
remember this this shit from the shining, good shit!!
jackstein104 2 years ago
capolavoro.
arredifestivi 2 years ago
I have to write an essay on this song for next week! any suggestions how to go about it??
havenogee 2 years ago
Well, you might approach it this way: The name means "The Nature of Sound". Composers have always dealt with "sound", but have traditionally made an arbitrary distinction between "musical sound" (desirable) and "noise sound" (undesirable). You might say that with a piece like this, Penderecki is attempting to redefine what musical composition is by removing the distinction between "noise" and "music" sounds. All sounds are good and available for use in a musical composition. Good luck!
NewMusicXX 2 years ago 6
Yea that sounds really good thanks very much! the hardest thing is starting an essay! cheers x
havenogee 2 years ago
@NewMusicXX Hah... That's really is not what Penderecki was doing. If you said it about John Cage, okay, but Penderecki? Not a chance.
emanonami 1 year ago
@NewMusicXX And also not call the piece a song. ¬¬
BachClarinet 1 week ago
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"song" is the wrong word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
matteomaga3 2 years ago 3
It's very nice painting ws well.
does anyone know whose?
lightseen 2 years ago
genius. the double surprise at the end is beautiful
adriantrench 3 years ago
Great!
I know, I'm a pain in the ass, but do you have stuff by Globokar? Would be highly interested!
GreggaryPeccary 3 years ago
I always enjoy hearing from you. I'll look. I might have to extract something from a tape, but I might be able to find something.
NewMusicXX 3 years ago
Delectable!
GreggaryPeccary 3 years ago
wow! this song was used for Shining!!
GabrieleJim86 3 years ago
"song" is the wrong word!!!!!!!!!!
matteomaga3 2 years ago
eheh non hai tutti i torti! son più rumori che altro! comunque ci stavano bene questi "rumori" nel film! Wendy!!!
GabrieleJim86 2 years ago
No, mi son spiegato male. Song è la parola sbagliata perchè song, cioè canzone, si usa solo per un pezzo cantato. In tutti gli altri casi si usa "pezzo" o "composizione". Poiché la "musica", senza ulteriore specificazione, viene identificata dal pubblico con la pop music, e la pop music è fatta (quasi) solo di canzoni, ecco che si è presa l'abitudine di definire "canzone" (song) qualsiasi pezzo di musica. Ma naturalmente c'è una gran quantità di musica al di fuori della canzone.
matteomaga3 2 years ago
ah non ne ero a conoscienza, molto interessante! che dire.. ogni giorno si imparano cose nuove! grazie per la correzzione del termine e W le composizioni di Penderecki!
GabrieleJim86 2 years ago
Wow. His use of strings are Amazing. I play a little guitar, but don't read music at all. I find it remarkable that this stuff can be written down on a page of sheet music. Thanks so much for sharing this, and all this New Classical music. I'm still learning. I Really Love this stuff! Thanks a lot NewMusicXX, for this, and ALL the Great music you share. It is appreciated.
syr1811 3 years ago 13
thank you!
galas06 3 years ago
thanks!!!!!!!!!
terrestial63 3 years ago