@TsunamiGato Just a PCI USB card, no WiFI, it connects using Ethernet though I think you could add a compatible PCI WiFi card or USB dongle if you wanted to.
The specs are in the video description, the processor has been upgraded from the original G3 to a G4 in order to run Leopard.
I thought leopard did work on G3 processors but it just didn't say it was supported because it doesn't run well and they didn't want ppl to be mislead when it was slow?
@bwillwall No, that was the G4s below 867 MHz which also aren't supported (and it actually runs fine on, they just wanted you to by a new Mac unnecessarily). They compiled Leopard without G3 support, the earlier beta builds that were more similar to Tiger would run which might be where you've heard of people "running Leopard" on a G3, but the final release will only run on a G4 or higher processor.
@weborderaccounts Cool, hope you get it updated ok - good to hear someone else is enjoying Leopard on one of these old Macs :-) I think the DVD drive is a Sony Optiarc one.
Found a Sonnet USB 2.0 card that now works on Leopard in this Mac. It didn't on Panther. Also will check a PCI Linksys wireless G card. Wonder if I can update to 10.5.8 over the network while running OS 9 on the Beige?
@weborderaccounts Not sure, I'd recommend putting the drive into another machine running Leopard and running 10.5.8 from there instead to be sure that everything gets installed correctly and the permissions set. That's the way that I installed my 10.5.8 (I actually used a virtual machine running Leopard on a PC) so is the only way I can confirm definitely works if you replace the files afterwards, though you may find another way that works - good luck! :-)
Got it done. All the way thru the 1st install process. Removed the modem b/c I heard the relay clicking. Had to delete the boot caches from Library using OS 9 once the disk was back in the Beige Mac. Having problems now with BMacEthernet.kext. What should the permissions be?
@weborderaccounts Great to hear that you got it to boot :D I think the permissions on that one are the same, but it goes inside the main networking kext as outlined in the guide, not loose in the Extensions folder like the others. This is needed for the built-in ethernet to work - if your using a separate 100 mbit PCI card you won't need it. Don't forget to do 10.5.8 and replace the kernel and three kexts as outlined in the guide, and replace the permissions on them once done.
@BeigeG3 Best to do the 10.5.8 combo from your other machine by the way, if you try to run it on the Beige it might go wrong when it replaces the files with incompatible versions, and make sure you put the permissions back on the files that you replace before putting the drive back in the Beige. I did the update first and then all the kexts as the update will most likely overwrite some of them with incompatible versions.
So I re-did my install drive with only OS 9 and Leopard partitions, OS 9 in the 1st 7 gigs. I tried the 10.5.0 install and re-did the permissions on the kexts as in the screenshot. I can now boot into the Leopard welcome video. The mac gets to the setup program: I can choose my location and language, but it hangs at the "Do You Already Own a Mac?" screen. I can mouse around, but I can't click continue and the keyboard seems useless.
Many thanks to your guide. I've read it over and over. My system freezes in verbose mode after the gray apple screen. Can't figure it out. I have kernel panic text, but it's too much to post here.
@weborderaccounts Usually there's a line or two in a kernel panic that describes it (the rest is just standard nonsense). If it says something about being unable to find platform driver, check you've installed all the kexts to your installation and that they have exactly the right permissions applied to them, and that you've cleared any caches. What machine are you using, and it does have a G4 processor installed? Does it have a working PRAM battery installed?
@BeigeG3 I noticed the permissions that were written in the guide differed from the BatCHmod screenshot you took, so I went with the written ones. Also, the machine is a Beige G3 Outrigger with Sonnet G4-500 Mhz upgrade. I have a working 10.3.3 install using XPF 4.0
@weborderaccounts I think the written and screenshotted permissions are the same - it should be R, W and X ticked for Owner (root), R and X ticked for Group (wheel), and R and X ticked for Everyone. It may be worth trying a 10.5.0 installation first as this takes out thr variable of needing to install the additional kexts and kernel from 10.5.5 (as the 10.5.8 ones don't seem to work). Did you make the installation from another machine already running Leopard?
@BeigeG3 Sorry I just noticed it said read and write, not execute, for the Group and Everyone ones - it is meant to be Read and Execute though I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes as long as Root has all of them granted to it, but please try with Owner RWX, Group RX, and Everyone RX - I'll upload an updated copy of the guide with that corrected :-)
@BeigeG3 Give your 10.5.8 install a go first with the execute permissions set on both the kexts and kernel file, and see if you get further with that - I've uploaded a copy of the guide with that corrected in it. If that doesn't work, try 10.5.0 to take out the variable of having to replace the kernel file.
@052109buckshot Assuming it’s the “Blue and White” G3 (one model newer than the Beige G3 shown here) then yes it is compatible as long as you upgrade the processor to a G4 – see the guide linked to in the video description for further details
@flmannyflorenzan Have a look at the guide linked to in the video description - on that machine it's a pretty straightforward process as Leopard has all the hardware support for it already built in unlike for the Beige G3, so you just need to get around the Installer's artificial check for an 867 MHz or faster processor if yours is below that.
dude... thats sick.... Leopard... and not just that on the Beige G3... you got the original Apple LCD with rainbow logo... which was very rare because most had regular White Apple logo I believe....
@Arakmatzu The original Studio Display LCD had the rainbow logo - the later ones were a lighter shade of blue to match the "Blue and White" G3 and had the non-rainbow logo - by that point Apple had significantly cut the price from the US$2,000 that the original version retailed for in 1998 so they are more common than the one with the rainbow logo. The version seen here also had the old DB-15 display connector and an ADB hub whereas later ones used VGA and then DVI and had a USB hub instead.
@johntguitar Yeah, it's a beige tower.. I maxed out the ram and installed the same sonnet G4 processor that you have in yours a few years ago. The configuration is identical to your minus the video card upgrade. I also have a G4 sitting around that I may try this on as well. What do you use yours for mostly? I assume that it runs a lot slower than the intel models?
@johntguitar Just use it as my Mac really as my main machine is a PC! :-) It is slower than a new machine of course but Leopard is perfectly usable on the Beige with the upgraded processor.
@atomikus37 10.2 is the highest Apple officially supported on them but as you van see I'm running 10.5.8 on mine :-) 10.2 Jaguar is very outdated these days so as I said you should go for at least 10.4 which you will be able to run with the standard G3 processor (10.5 requires the G4 upgrade)
@atomikus37 10.2 is very old these days, you should go with at least 10.4 (which is easy to install) or 10.5 (much newer and better, though harder to install - follow the guide in the video description for how to install it if your processor upgrade is a G4). If I was you I'd go with a more modern OS and see how it works with that and then work on getting any additional software installed if you find it's needed.
@atomikus37 From what I can find all the Powerlogix software is at eshop. macsales .com / tech_center / processors.cfm though as my card is a Sonnet one I'm not so familiar with these ones. Are you trying to run OS 9 or X with it though? If you're trying to run Leopard you should use the guide linked in the video description to install it first, then once it is working look into getting the additional software for the CPU upgrade installed if required.x
@matchstickpro There's not that much to see really! You can always find a copy of Apple's service manual for the Beige G3 minitower if you're interested in what's inside one though.
@matchstickpro You mean the Sonnet 1 GHz upgrade? Yep, it's a great CPU and makes the Beige many many times faster than it otherwise would be. If you mean the actual computer it's a fun machine to get Leopard running on and it does run well once you get it working but a Power Mac G4 will be a bit faster and a lot easier to get Leopard installed, and they are also very cheap these days.
@JoelB3783 Yes, the Beige G3 and Blue/White G3 tower has a ZIF socketed CPU so you can upgrade them with one of a range of aftermarket CPUs, faster G3s and G4s are available for them.
@stanlymanly2 Why not, it’s an awesome machine and it’s great working on it and finally persuading it to run Leopard! :-) (you learn plenty about the hardware and OS X doing it too)
G4s and G5s are of course very nice too but I’d want one as well as rather than instead of my old Beige! (G5s are still annoyingly expensive too despite the way all of the recent software has dropped support for the PPC)
@jdogtalks See the guide linked to in the video description – it will be pretty easy on that machine as it's a lot more similar to the Macs that are officially supported by Leopard than the Beige G3 is.
Hey BeigeG3 I have an old Power Mac G3 (Blue and white) and now I'm running Mac Os X 10.4.11, how I can install 10.5 to get more updated apps? My specs: Processor Power PC G3 300MHz and 384 system RAM. Help please.
@XInkisidoreGamerX The installation guide linked to in the video description should give you everything you need to know. You'll need to get a G4 processor upgrade for your machine first, the Sonnet Encore 500 MHz G4 Zif upgrade shouldn't be too expensive these days and will work nicely with your Mac.
@BeigeG3 OK, thanks, I will try to buy a cheap G4 processor, I made yesterday some upgrades in my G3, now I have 512 Ram memory, DVD player, and a 160GB hard drive, after buy the new processor I want to install Leopard cause in 10.4.11 the apps are too old and someones don't work good. Again thanks.
@jdogtalks No as you have to upgrade the CPU to a G4 for Leopard to run as Apple compiled Leopard without G3 support - the laptop processors are soldered in though unlike the ones in the Mac towers which can be upgraded. Leopard installation guide linked to in video description has full details.
@superapple4ever I was given two of them along with this Mac, they were from an office that was upgrading to some newer Macs - it's Apple's first LCD monitor, the original Studio Display LCD 15" which retailed for as much as US$2,000 back when it was new in 1998.
@LoganIsYourFriend The guide linked to in the video description has everything you need to know about Leopard on unsupported older Macs - the short answer is no as Leopard will not run on a G3 processor and the iBook's processor is soldered to the motherboard so it's not possible to upgrade it to a G4 processor like it is with the tower Macs.
@wiigamer136 Not at all bad! It's been upgraded to a 1 GHz G4 processor though the motherboard is of course the original so it's comparable to a slightly slower "real" G4, maybe a Digital Audio or Quicksilver I'd say.
ah. Anyways, i heard that the emacs run 10.5 pretty fast too. At least they are better than this old dell optiplex gx240 with 1.6 ghz p4 running windows.
@wiigamer136 Hehe yep, I have OS X 10.5 and 10.6 in VMware Workstation on my PC which run quite nicely. Did also have 10.5.8 running natively but gave up trying to get 10.6 to work as it was too painful and kept resetting my BIOS to its default settings, annoying :p
@wiigamer136 To be honest the Beige is actually more of a Hackintosh, I would say that it is more different to any Mac that was supported for Leopard (ie AGP-based, NewWorld ROM architecture, legacy-free ie USB rather than only the old Mac ports Power Mac G4s) than an Intel PC is different to an Intel Mac.
ah. I have an i3 hackintosh that is comparable to the lowest end imac by CPU, RAM, but it has a better GPU and is upgradable and could be overclocked. It costs half as much as an imac.
@dmcintyre90 I do have the old ADB ones too but prefer the look of the modern ones, also the Aluminium Keyboard is a great size whereas the old ones take up half your desk!
@BeigeG3 Dude, chill the fuck out. I could tell that it was real by how laggy the intro video was as well as how you brought the camera down to the speaker. You should know that some other people may not be so convinced though. For all they know, you could've just built a Hackintosh into the old G3 case.
@thejon128 I just don't take kindly to being accused of being a faker, which is what your original message seemed like - I couldn't have recorded it up to the About This Mac screen anyway as I wanted to show the intro movie but couldn't have easily recorded it and typed in all the first-boot information at the same time.
It is real, have a read of the guide that the description links to if you want to know what has to be added into Leopard for compatibility with this machine.
@BeigeG3 Bothered wouldn't be the correct word seeing as it's easier to read a 2 line comment than install an unsupported operating system on an outdated computer.
@MrPolarbeared It's a good thing that this one has a PowerPC G4 upgrade installed then, as outlined in the video description...
Anyway, who cares what is "officially supported"? The whole point of this is to run Leopard on much older Macs than it is "officially supported" by Apple on so that we can enjoy this software without needing buy a new Mac which is why Apple try to artificially restrict what machines are able to run it.
Can you please tell me if OS X 10.5 can be run on a PowerBook G4 PPC model? It's not intel and it's running Tiger 10.4.11 I really need Leopard for iTunes 10
@VOCALOID0414 Yes, any machine that shipped with a G4 processor (except the first-gen "Yikes" Power Mac G4 tower) will run Leopard easily, unlike the long-winded process to get it installed on the Beige Power Macs.
10.5 Leopard (not 10.6 Snow Leopard, which is Intel-only) officially runs on G4s with an 867 MHz or faster processor or any G5 PowerPC, but it's easy to circumvent that and get it to install on an older G4 if yours is below 867 Mhz - download the guide linked to above for details.
@VOCALOID0414 Leopard should run on your PowerBook. Just as long as you have a system with at least 512MB RAM and an 867MHz processor. Leopard will run on systems that have less than that, but you may have to hack the install.
@richardsonl91 Only if you upgrade it to a G4 processor (the G4 upgrade for the PowerBook G3 is very rare though) as Apple compiled Leopard without G3 support, it will only run on G4/G5 PowerPC or Intel processors.
Download the guide linked to above for more information, but you must upgrade it to a G4 processor or purchase a G4-powered machine to get anywhere with Leopard.
@BeigeG3 I read the guide and I was kinda unhappy upon learning that the G3 wouldent run it, but on the upside I still have 10.4.11 running on it so I'm not totally peeved
@richardsonl91 You could have a look for the G4 upgrade processor for the PowerBook G3, but they are very rare compared to the ones for the tower Macs. If you are keen to run Leopard then a Power Mac G4 can be had for next to nothing these days and they are still fantastic machines :-)
@gleedvideos OS X Snow Leopard (version 10.6) is only for Intel Macs sadly (shame on Apple...), but Leopard (10.5 - the version shown here) will run nicely on any G4 and will run iMovie '09 or Final Cut.
@gleedvideos Next to nothing these days, crazy really considering what a great machine they still are, Leopard is very easy to install on those compared with the Beigey.
I installed Windows 7 on a DELL latitude D520 , and it only had 512 MB of RAM and a 40 GB harddrive, and it ran better than the copy of XP that was on it... and Windows 7 with only 512 MB of RAM boot in 90 sec, and ran smooth.
@MultiDarklover You mean the G3 "Blue and White"? Yes, as long as you put a G4 processor upgrade in it - see the installation guide linked to above for more details.
@FusekiGames Yes that should be fine, any Radeon card and G4 chip should be compatible. See the link to the installation guide package linked to above above for how to do it and the files you'll need - is it a Beige or a "Blue and White" G3? (the installation is similar on both, I haven't done it on a B&W but a few of the kexts needed are different)
@menace450 Hehe though it wouldn't be a real PowerPC Mac any more, just a PC (as that's what Intel Macs are...) in that lovely old casing - the PPC chip is one of the things I really like about these machines!
It wouldn't be easy anyway as laptop screens are specific to the hardware in the machine and don't have standard connectors, so you'd have to replace the screen with a standard one for a desktop monitor rather than a laptop, if you could find one that fitted!
@menace450 It wouldn't be a waste of 2 months if it did turn out to be possible, Leopard on the old G3 iMacs and iBooks that are otherwise sadly stuck at Tiger would be awesome! Also as you can see from the date of the video it was nearly a year of my life from Leopard's release to the old Beige finally being able to enjoy that Leopardy goodness... :p
@menace450 For a start I think you said G4 when you meant G3 so what you said didn't even make sense...if it's possible then why don't you do it, then I might believe you?
No-one in the world has done it yet and it is three years since Leopard was released - also applications like iLife '06 onwards (except iPhoto and iWeb) are compiled the same as Leopard, for G4/AltiVec only, if you try and launch them on a G3 they bounce once in the Dock and then close again, clearly showing incompatibility.
@matchstickpro Pretty much - you really need a graphics card too, the onboard video in the Beige just about works but seems to make Leopard freeze after not very long so really needs to be disabled through Open Firmware (it causes freezes if it is enabled, even if not connected to a display) and a Radeon PCI card used instead, also a decent amount of memory (768 MB is the most that the Beige will take) will lead to better results with Leo.
@matchstickpro The iBook's processor is soldered to the logic board so unfortunately it cannot be upgraded to the G4 chip that Leopard needs in order to run.
@FutureiMacuser That would have been one of the pre-release Leopard builds if they were running it one the original G3 chip - the retail version was compiled by Apple without G3 support so is unfortunately impossible to run on a G3 processor.
@qoskyle1 It's the original Apple Studio Display from 1998, Apple's first desktop LCD display - I was given two of them and this Mac by an office that was getting new machines, you'll see them occassionally on eBay etc for not much money these days but they are relatively rare as they had a retail price of $2,000 new!
The later versions that are similar but a much lighter blue to match the "Blue and White" Power Mac G3 are a bit more common as Apple had dropped the price by the following year.
thank you because we still can find people that is giving solutions to this problems with the mac os x thank you very much for give us your time we learn a lot.
@SoloJerkBoy See the installation guide linked to in the video description for full details.
All Power Mac G4s apart from the very first one (no AGP graphics) are very easy to install Leopard on though - it's only older machines without AGP graphics slots that need the much more difficult method that had to be used with the Power Macintosh G3 as shown here.
@AppleKidWizard Check out the video description and the installation guide linked there - short answer is no as you have to upgrade the Mac to a G4 processor before it will run, as Apple compiled Leopard with no G3 support. Unlike the Power Macintosh G3 tower, the iBook has a soldered-in CPU that cannot be upgraded unfortunately.
@hddr3 Yes, the install was done using a PC running OS X in VMware Workstation - full details in the installation guide linked to above. You don't just need to install OS X while it's in the other machine though, quite a bit of other work is needed to make the installation compatible before putting it back in the Mac
@3Dinvent Just put it in one of the PCI slots in the machine - Mac OS X has drivers for graphics cards built in so you don't need extra drivers - it needs to be the Radeon Mac Edition card though, cards with PC firmware are not compatible.
@HeIIoFascination See the guide linked to in the video description, full instructions on how to do it are in there (your Beige must be upgraded to a G4 processor for it to work though)
@TheOCAShow A G4 processor yes, but the machine itself ie the motherboard etc is all still 1997/98-vintage and is very much unsupported by Leopard which is why it takes a lot of work to get it installed and running, as detailed in the guide linked to in the video description.
Since you were able to run the 10.5 on your G3 then I should not have a problem installing it on my G5 which I just purchased. This is great news! Thanks for your video!
@SacredComposer Definitely, the G5 is completely supported for Leopard and is a very powerful machine still - Leopard is fully supported on an 867 MHz PowerPC G4 or faster with no hacking etc whatsoever, and it will install on a G4 with a slower processor and AGP graphics with a very simple workaround. Macs with G4 processors but no AGP graphics (ie this Beige G3 that has been upgraded to G4) need a fair bit more work to get it going. It won't run on a G3 processor at all.
@TheIshProductions Check out the guide that you can download from the link in the video description - the short answer is no, as Apple compiled Leopard in such a way that it ill only run on a G4 or higher processor, and the G4 processor upgrade for the iMac G3 is very rare so you are unlikely to find one (whereas the G4 for the tower G3s is pretty common).
@voyager8907 OS X 10.2.8 "Jaguar" is the latest one that Apple officially supported on the Beige G3, but they will run 10.4.11 "Tiger" unsupported with XPOstFacto with the standard processor etc - you do really need to add a proper graphics card though as the built-in graphics that they come with is barely compatible with OS X (even the versions that were officially supported). For OS X 10.5 "Leopard" they need to be upgraded to the G4 processor.
@thegreendoctor Was me that messaged you over at the other site about it, did you have any luck? Let me know if you have any questions about getting it to install/run :-)
@BeigeG3 Not yet. I haven't had enough time to devote to it between work and getting my car ready for a show this weekend. If I have anymore questions, I'll definitely ask though!!
I need to install OS X leopard on a PowerMac G3 Blue and White but I can't find any place where I can get those processors upgrade. Is there any one still selling them?
Not new as far as I know - try searching for "sonnet g4" on eBay, you should find one, or if not keep looking and one will come up, the 500 MHz G4 is relatively common and the 1 GHz version slightly less so. Once you've got it download the file linked to the right of the video for the full guide on what you need to do to install it.
@xxspeedxmetalxx I belive he upgraded the processor from a PowerPC g3 to a PowerPC g4 1Ghz one that would explain why it works because leopard needs a 867 MHz processor at least a g4 PowerPC he also upgraded the ram and graphics card to run leopard I hope this answers your question
It doesnt have to be 867 MHz any G4 processor will run Leopard fine, Apple just put a script in the Installer that makes it refuse to install with a slower G4 but that is very easily circumvented.
The main challenge with this Mac is making Leopard happy with its 11 year old architecture that hasnt been supported in OS X since version 10.2 Jaguar you have to do the installation using a more compatible machine as the Leopard DVD wont boot on it, and then ad a whole load of kexts etc to it to make it run, but once its working it runs very well on this old Mac.
so you took the HD from the old mac, put it in a new one, installed leopard, and before booting again you powered the computer off, moved the HD back to the old mac, and booted it.
A bit more than that - I did the installation in a PC running a VMware machine of OS X, but you also have to add in a lot of kexts needed to support the Beige G3's hardware and make it bootable, run a firmware script to disable the machine's onboard graphics as they make it freeze, etc - see the complete guide linked to in the video information (top right) for the full details of what you have to do to make Leo run on the Beige.
There's a link in the video description (top right) to a full guide to how it is done, complete with all the files required for a successful installation
It has a USB card, wireless and everything else? Send to my e-mail more photos of this mac!
TsunamiGato 2 months ago
@TsunamiGato Just a PCI USB card, no WiFI, it connects using Ethernet though I think you could add a compatible PCI WiFi card or USB dongle if you wanted to.
The specs are in the video description, the processor has been upgraded from the original G3 to a G4 in order to run Leopard.
BeigeG3 2 months ago
Funny, beige Macs are cool and far more beautiful, had to change the processor of the machine friends?
TsunamiGato 2 months ago
I thought leopard did work on G3 processors but it just didn't say it was supported because it doesn't run well and they didn't want ppl to be mislead when it was slow?
bwillwall 3 months ago
@bwillwall No, that was the G4s below 867 MHz which also aren't supported (and it actually runs fine on, they just wanted you to by a new Mac unnecessarily). They compiled Leopard without G3 support, the earlier beta builds that were more similar to Tiger would run which might be where you've heard of people "running Leopard" on a G3, but the final release will only run on a G4 or higher processor.
BeigeG3 3 months ago
flubbed up the networking during the welcome setup. fixed that by trashing some .plist files.
the zip 100 drive works too. going to do a backup to CCC of the successful 10.5.0 install b4 updating.
what dvd-rw drive are you using?
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@weborderaccounts Cool, hope you get it updated ok - good to hear someone else is enjoying Leopard on one of these old Macs :-) I think the DVD drive is a Sony Optiarc one.
BeigeG3 4 months ago
Found a Sonnet USB 2.0 card that now works on Leopard in this Mac. It didn't on Panther. Also will check a PCI Linksys wireless G card. Wonder if I can update to 10.5.8 over the network while running OS 9 on the Beige?
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@weborderaccounts Not sure, I'd recommend putting the drive into another machine running Leopard and running 10.5.8 from there instead to be sure that everything gets installed correctly and the permissions set. That's the way that I installed my 10.5.8 (I actually used a virtual machine running Leopard on a PC) so is the only way I can confirm definitely works if you replace the files afterwards, though you may find another way that works - good luck! :-)
BeigeG3 4 months ago
Got it done. All the way thru the 1st install process. Removed the modem b/c I heard the relay clicking. Had to delete the boot caches from Library using OS 9 once the disk was back in the Beige Mac. Having problems now with BMacEthernet.kext. What should the permissions be?
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@weborderaccounts Great to hear that you got it to boot :D I think the permissions on that one are the same, but it goes inside the main networking kext as outlined in the guide, not loose in the Extensions folder like the others. This is needed for the built-in ethernet to work - if your using a separate 100 mbit PCI card you won't need it. Don't forget to do 10.5.8 and replace the kernel and three kexts as outlined in the guide, and replace the permissions on them once done.
BeigeG3 4 months ago
@BeigeG3 Best to do the 10.5.8 combo from your other machine by the way, if you try to run it on the Beige it might go wrong when it replaces the files with incompatible versions, and make sure you put the permissions back on the files that you replace before putting the drive back in the Beige. I did the update first and then all the kexts as the update will most likely overwrite some of them with incompatible versions.
BeigeG3 4 months ago
So I re-did my install drive with only OS 9 and Leopard partitions, OS 9 in the 1st 7 gigs. I tried the 10.5.0 install and re-did the permissions on the kexts as in the screenshot. I can now boot into the Leopard welcome video. The mac gets to the setup program: I can choose my location and language, but it hangs at the "Do You Already Own a Mac?" screen. I can mouse around, but I can't click continue and the keyboard seems useless.
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
Many thanks to your guide. I've read it over and over. My system freezes in verbose mode after the gray apple screen. Can't figure it out. I have kernel panic text, but it's too much to post here.
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@weborderaccounts Usually there's a line or two in a kernel panic that describes it (the rest is just standard nonsense). If it says something about being unable to find platform driver, check you've installed all the kexts to your installation and that they have exactly the right permissions applied to them, and that you've cleared any caches. What machine are you using, and it does have a G4 processor installed? Does it have a working PRAM battery installed?
BeigeG3 4 months ago
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Unknown
Mac OS version:
Not yet set
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.5.0: Wed Sep 3 11:31:44 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.7.58~1/RELEASE_PPC
No debugger configured - dumping debug information
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@BeigeG3 I noticed the permissions that were written in the guide differed from the BatCHmod screenshot you took, so I went with the written ones. Also, the machine is a Beige G3 Outrigger with Sonnet G4-500 Mhz upgrade. I have a working 10.3.3 install using XPF 4.0
weborderaccounts 4 months ago
@weborderaccounts I think the written and screenshotted permissions are the same - it should be R, W and X ticked for Owner (root), R and X ticked for Group (wheel), and R and X ticked for Everyone. It may be worth trying a 10.5.0 installation first as this takes out thr variable of needing to install the additional kexts and kernel from 10.5.5 (as the 10.5.8 ones don't seem to work). Did you make the installation from another machine already running Leopard?
BeigeG3 4 months ago
@BeigeG3 Sorry I just noticed it said read and write, not execute, for the Group and Everyone ones - it is meant to be Read and Execute though I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes as long as Root has all of them granted to it, but please try with Owner RWX, Group RX, and Everyone RX - I'll upload an updated copy of the guide with that corrected :-)
BeigeG3 4 months ago
@BeigeG3 Give your 10.5.8 install a go first with the execute permissions set on both the kexts and kernel file, and see if you get further with that - I've uploaded a copy of the guide with that corrected in it. If that doesn't work, try 10.5.0 to take out the variable of having to replace the kernel file.
BeigeG3 4 months ago
Is a 1999 powermac G3 compatible? If not what do I do to run osx leopard?
052109buckshot 6 months ago
@052109buckshot Assuming it’s the “Blue and White” G3 (one model newer than the Beige G3 shown here) then yes it is compatible as long as you upgrade the processor to a G4 – see the guide linked to in the video description for further details
BeigeG3 5 months ago
OMG WTF?????????? AWSOME WORK DUDE!!!!
MrCarmani12 6 months ago 4
The first boot video is a bit laggy.Why?
honam1021 7 months ago
man i need help i have a powerbook g4...pleaseee help meeee
flmannyflorenzan 7 months ago
@flmannyflorenzan Have a look at the guide linked to in the video description - on that machine it's a pretty straightforward process as Leopard has all the hardware support for it already built in unlike for the Beige G3, so you just need to get around the Installer's artificial check for an 867 MHz or faster processor if yours is below that.
BeigeG3 7 months ago
dude... thats sick.... Leopard... and not just that on the Beige G3... you got the original Apple LCD with rainbow logo... which was very rare because most had regular White Apple logo I believe....
Arakmatzu 8 months ago 2
@Arakmatzu The original Studio Display LCD had the rainbow logo - the later ones were a lighter shade of blue to match the "Blue and White" G3 and had the non-rainbow logo - by that point Apple had significantly cut the price from the US$2,000 that the original version retailed for in 1998 so they are more common than the one with the rainbow logo. The version seen here also had the old DB-15 display connector and an ADB hub whereas later ones used VGA and then DVI and had a USB hub instead.
BeigeG3 8 months ago
I was just emptying out my storage and about to trash my old G3. I might try this just to an have an extra toy to play with! Thanks :-)
johntguitar 8 months ago
@johntguitar Don't throw it out, they're still great machines! Is yours the "Beige" too?
BeigeG3 8 months ago
@johntguitar Yeah, it's a beige tower.. I maxed out the ram and installed the same sonnet G4 processor that you have in yours a few years ago. The configuration is identical to your minus the video card upgrade. I also have a G4 sitting around that I may try this on as well. What do you use yours for mostly? I assume that it runs a lot slower than the intel models?
johntguitar 8 months ago
@johntguitar Just use it as my Mac really as my main machine is a PC! :-) It is slower than a new machine of course but Leopard is perfectly usable on the Beige with the upgraded processor.
BeigeG3 8 months ago
@atomikus37 Only in a virtual machine on my PC, not on the Mac
BeigeG3 8 months ago
@atomikus37 10.2 is the highest Apple officially supported on them but as you van see I'm running 10.5.8 on mine :-) 10.2 Jaguar is very outdated these days so as I said you should go for at least 10.4 which you will be able to run with the standard G3 processor (10.5 requires the G4 upgrade)
BeigeG3 8 months ago
@atomikus37 10.2 is very old these days, you should go with at least 10.4 (which is easy to install) or 10.5 (much newer and better, though harder to install - follow the guide in the video description for how to install it if your processor upgrade is a G4). If I was you I'd go with a more modern OS and see how it works with that and then work on getting any additional software installed if you find it's needed.
BeigeG3 9 months ago
@atomikus37 From what I can find all the Powerlogix software is at eshop. macsales .com / tech_center / processors.cfm though as my card is a Sonnet one I'm not so familiar with these ones. Are you trying to run OS 9 or X with it though? If you're trying to run Leopard you should use the guide linked in the video description to install it first, then once it is working look into getting the additional software for the CPU upgrade installed if required.x
BeigeG3 9 months ago
Haha, the camera was shaking during the welcome video. Were you that excited? No worries, I would be too!
caHarkness 9 months ago
Can you give a tutorial on how to run leopard on it once you have the upgrade and everything
matchstickpro 9 months ago
@matchstickpro There's a full guide on it in the video description along with the files that you'll need to add to Leopard for it to run.
BeigeG3 9 months ago
Can you do a video showing off the insides and explaining them, please?
matchstickpro 9 months ago
@matchstickpro There's not that much to see really! You can always find a copy of Apple's service manual for the Beige G3 minitower if you're interested in what's inside one though.
BeigeG3 9 months ago
I'm in the market, would you recommend this CPU?
matchstickpro 9 months ago
@matchstickpro You mean the Sonnet 1 GHz upgrade? Yep, it's a great CPU and makes the Beige many many times faster than it otherwise would be. If you mean the actual computer it's a fun machine to get Leopard running on and it does run well once you get it working but a Power Mac G4 will be a bit faster and a lot easier to get Leopard installed, and they are also very cheap these days.
BeigeG3 9 months ago
ok my computer must be fussy on top of the beginge g3 i also have a g3 imac
Markperry123 9 months ago
This G3 has a G4 Upgrade!!!
MustangGT500KRFever 10 months ago
@MustangGT500KRFever not possible.
JoelB3783 9 months ago
@JoelB3783 Its possible look at the specs !
"Sonnet Encore 1 GHz G4 processor"
MustangGT500KRFever 9 months ago
@JoelB3783 Yes, the Beige G3 and Blue/White G3 tower has a ZIF socketed CPU so you can upgrade them with one of a range of aftermarket CPUs, faster G3s and G4s are available for them.
BeigeG3 9 months ago
G3 can't run OS X Leopard, here are the Leopard requirements...
Processors: PowerPC G4, PowerPC G5 and Intel Macs. At least 867 MHz of speed. (not G3)
Memory: At least 512 MB
But, idk how you did it!
1234567abc3 10 months ago
@1234567abc3 Details of how it's done are in the video description and the installation guide that it links to.
Ignore Apple's specs, they are designed to make you buy a new Mac unnecessarily rather than reflecting the true technical requirements of Leopard.
BeigeG3 10 months ago
@1234567abc3
if you read the discription he says he used the "Sonnet Encore 1 GHz G4 processor upgrade card"
blim31 9 months ago
just out of curiosity and not trying to be a douche, but why bother with the beige g3? why not upgrade to like a g4 or g5?
stanlymanly2 10 months ago
@stanlymanly2 Why not, it’s an awesome machine and it’s great working on it and finally persuading it to run Leopard! :-) (you learn plenty about the hardware and OS X doing it too)
G4s and G5s are of course very nice too but I’d want one as well as rather than instead of my old Beige! (G5s are still annoyingly expensive too despite the way all of the recent software has dropped support for the PPC)
BeigeG3 10 months ago
@BeigeG3 aaaaaahhhh i see :D sweet. thats sweet though that you installed Leopard on a computer from 10+ years ago :p good job!
stanlymanly2 10 months ago
@stanlymanly2 Yep, this Beigey will be 13 years old this year so is good to have it running Leopard nicely! :-)
BeigeG3 10 months ago
hey, how do i do this with an 800mhz ibook g4?
jdogtalks 10 months ago
@jdogtalks See the guide linked to in the video description – it will be pretty easy on that machine as it's a lot more similar to the Macs that are officially supported by Leopard than the Beige G3 is.
BeigeG3 10 months ago
Hey BeigeG3 I have an old Power Mac G3 (Blue and white) and now I'm running Mac Os X 10.4.11, how I can install 10.5 to get more updated apps? My specs: Processor Power PC G3 300MHz and 384 system RAM. Help please.
XInkisidoreGamerX 11 months ago
@XInkisidoreGamerX The installation guide linked to in the video description should give you everything you need to know. You'll need to get a G4 processor upgrade for your machine first, the Sonnet Encore 500 MHz G4 Zif upgrade shouldn't be too expensive these days and will work nicely with your Mac.
BeigeG3 11 months ago
@BeigeG3 OK, thanks, I will try to buy a cheap G4 processor, I made yesterday some upgrades in my G3, now I have 512 Ram memory, DVD player, and a 160GB hard drive, after buy the new processor I want to install Leopard cause in 10.4.11 the apps are too old and someones don't work good. Again thanks.
XInkisidoreGamerX 11 months ago
its fake you got macmini hided somewhere
vilhonku 11 months ago
@vilhonku Well done for showing how you know nothing about Macs and getting yourself blocked, idiot...
BeigeG3 11 months ago 2
@vilhonku how is it fake when a mac mini cannot hook up to a monitor that old retard
jdogtalks 10 months ago 2
@vilhonku No it's not a mac mini, he even closed in on the speaker so you could hear it's real.
TommyA1912 10 months ago 2
do you still use that old computer?
jdogtalks 1 year ago
@jdogtalks Yes, not as my main machine but it runs very well with the upgraded hardware and Leopard.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
how can i do this with an ibook g3?
jdogtalks 1 year ago
@jdogtalks No as you have to upgrade the CPU to a G4 for Leopard to run as Apple compiled Leopard without G3 support - the laptop processors are soldered in though unlike the ones in the Mac towers which can be upgraded. Leopard installation guide linked to in video description has full details.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Where did you get that screen!
superapple4ever 1 year ago
@superapple4ever I was given two of them along with this Mac, they were from an office that was upgrading to some newer Macs - it's Apple's first LCD monitor, the original Studio Display LCD 15" which retailed for as much as US$2,000 back when it was new in 1998.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
is it possible to put 10.5 on my iBook g3 (2003 model)? it has like 600 mb of ram.
LoganIsYourFriend 1 year ago
@LoganIsYourFriend The guide linked to in the video description has everything you need to know about Leopard on unsupported older Macs - the short answer is no as Leopard will not run on a G3 processor and the iBook's processor is soldered to the motherboard so it's not possible to upgrade it to a G4 processor like it is with the tower Macs.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Fake. It has a usb keyboard and mouse. The beige g3 does not have that
iSquishy89 1 year ago
@iSquishy89 you can get an adapter for that now at microcenter or at most computer stores
personMe12354 1 year ago
@iSquishy89 Uhh never heard of a PCI USB card?…….
BeigeG3 1 year ago 7
@BeigeG3 OHHHHH! Burn!!!!!
ajwtec 1 year ago
@BeigeG3
How does it run?
wiigamer136 1 year ago
@wiigamer136 Not at all bad! It's been upgraded to a 1 GHz G4 processor though the motherboard is of course the original so it's comparable to a slightly slower "real" G4, maybe a Digital Audio or Quicksilver I'd say.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3
ah. Anyways, i heard that the emacs run 10.5 pretty fast too. At least they are better than this old dell optiplex gx240 with 1.6 ghz p4 running windows.
Anyways, have you heard of a hackintosh?
wiigamer136 1 year ago
@wiigamer136 Hehe yep, I have OS X 10.5 and 10.6 in VMware Workstation on my PC which run quite nicely. Did also have 10.5.8 running natively but gave up trying to get 10.6 to work as it was too painful and kept resetting my BIOS to its default settings, annoying :p
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@wiigamer136 To be honest the Beige is actually more of a Hackintosh, I would say that it is more different to any Mac that was supported for Leopard (ie AGP-based, NewWorld ROM architecture, legacy-free ie USB rather than only the old Mac ports Power Mac G4s) than an Intel PC is different to an Intel Mac.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3
ah. I have an i3 hackintosh that is comparable to the lowest end imac by CPU, RAM, but it has a better GPU and is upgradable and could be overclocked. It costs half as much as an imac.
Specs...
Gigabyte H55m-S2h
i3-530
EVGA 9800 gt
OCZ 4 gb. 1066 mhz RAM
1 tb. HDD (Windows) as well as 750 gb. HDD (OSX)
Runs windows 7 and OSX 10.6.6
wiigamer136 1 year ago
@iSquishy89 Try reading the video description before throwing the accusations around, it even says there it has a PCI USB card installed
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@iSquishy89 he probably lost the original keyboard and mouse, so he added a usb pci card so it works
dmcintyre90 1 year ago
@dmcintyre90 I do have the old ADB ones too but prefer the look of the modern ones, also the Aluminium Keyboard is a great size whereas the old ones take up half your desk!
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@iSquishy89 lol'd, ever hear of USB PCI cards?
xxGodx 8 months ago
It'd be a little more believable if you actually would have recorded from the press of the power button to the About This Mac window.
thejon128 1 year ago
@thejon128 It is real, try getting your own machine and installing 10.5 yourself if you can't be bothered to believe me.
BeigeG3 1 year ago 5
@BeigeG3 Dude, chill the fuck out. I could tell that it was real by how laggy the intro video was as well as how you brought the camera down to the speaker. You should know that some other people may not be so convinced though. For all they know, you could've just built a Hackintosh into the old G3 case.
thejon128 1 year ago
@thejon128 I just don't take kindly to being accused of being a faker, which is what your original message seemed like - I couldn't have recorded it up to the About This Mac screen anyway as I wanted to show the intro movie but couldn't have easily recorded it and typed in all the first-boot information at the same time.
It is real, have a read of the guide that the description links to if you want to know what has to be added into Leopard for compatibility with this machine.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3 Bothered wouldn't be the correct word seeing as it's easier to read a 2 line comment than install an unsupported operating system on an outdated computer.
PPC G3 processors are officially unsupported
MrPolarbeared 4 months ago
@MrPolarbeared It's a good thing that this one has a PowerPC G4 upgrade installed then, as outlined in the video description...
Anyway, who cares what is "officially supported"? The whole point of this is to run Leopard on much older Macs than it is "officially supported" by Apple on so that we can enjoy this software without needing buy a new Mac which is why Apple try to artificially restrict what machines are able to run it.
BeigeG3 4 months ago
Can you please tell me if OS X 10.5 can be run on a PowerBook G4 PPC model? It's not intel and it's running Tiger 10.4.11 I really need Leopard for iTunes 10
VOCALOID0414 1 year ago
@VOCALOID0414 Yes, any machine that shipped with a G4 processor (except the first-gen "Yikes" Power Mac G4 tower) will run Leopard easily, unlike the long-winded process to get it installed on the Beige Power Macs.
10.5 Leopard (not 10.6 Snow Leopard, which is Intel-only) officially runs on G4s with an 867 MHz or faster processor or any G5 PowerPC, but it's easy to circumvent that and get it to install on an older G4 if yours is below 867 Mhz - download the guide linked to above for details.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@VOCALOID0414 Leopard should run on your PowerBook. Just as long as you have a system with at least 512MB RAM and an 867MHz processor. Leopard will run on systems that have less than that, but you may have to hack the install.
thejon128 1 year ago
@thejon128 It says you need a G4 prossesor.
iSquishy89 1 year ago
I have a Lombard PowerBook G3 with originaln 500Mhz Processor, will Leopard run? and will it run at a reasonable speed?
richardsonl91 1 year ago
@richardsonl91 Only if you upgrade it to a G4 processor (the G4 upgrade for the PowerBook G3 is very rare though) as Apple compiled Leopard without G3 support, it will only run on G4/G5 PowerPC or Intel processors.
Download the guide linked to above for more information, but you must upgrade it to a G4 processor or purchase a G4-powered machine to get anywhere with Leopard.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3 I read the guide and I was kinda unhappy upon learning that the G3 wouldent run it, but on the upside I still have 10.4.11 running on it so I'm not totally peeved
richardsonl91 1 year ago
@richardsonl91 You could have a look for the G4 upgrade processor for the PowerBook G3, but they are very rare compared to the ones for the tower Macs. If you are keen to run Leopard then a Power Mac G4 can be had for next to nothing these days and they are still fantastic machines :-)
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@gleedvideos OS X Snow Leopard (version 10.6) is only for Intel Macs sadly (shame on Apple...), but Leopard (10.5 - the version shown here) will run nicely on any G4 and will run iMovie '09 or Final Cut.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@gleedvideos Next to nothing these days, crazy really considering what a great machine they still are, Leopard is very easy to install on those compared with the Beigey.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
that is f&*()^% awesome.
appleAddict240872 1 year ago
I installed Windows 7 on a DELL latitude D520 , and it only had 512 MB of RAM and a 40 GB harddrive, and it ran better than the copy of XP that was on it... and Windows 7 with only 512 MB of RAM boot in 90 sec, and ran smooth.
maw88ify 1 year ago
who is faster this or my atom netbook?
MotweraCity 1 year ago
Will this work on a Power Macintosh G3 1999 model?
MultiDarklover 1 year ago
@MultiDarklover You mean the G3 "Blue and White"? Yes, as long as you put a G4 processor upgrade in it - see the installation guide linked to above for more details.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Hmm... wonder if this would work with my old Radeon Mac Edition and Powerforce 466 Mhz G4 upgrade in my G3...
FusekiGames 1 year ago
@FusekiGames Yes that should be fine, any Radeon card and G4 chip should be compatible. See the link to the installation guide package linked to above above for how to do it and the files you'll need - is it a Beige or a "Blue and White" G3? (the installation is similar on both, I haven't done it on a B&W but a few of the kexts needed are different)
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@menace450 Hehe though it wouldn't be a real PowerPC Mac any more, just a PC (as that's what Intel Macs are...) in that lovely old casing - the PPC chip is one of the things I really like about these machines!
It wouldn't be easy anyway as laptop screens are specific to the hardware in the machine and don't have standard connectors, so you'd have to replace the screen with a standard one for a desktop monitor rather than a laptop, if you could find one that fitted!
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@menace450 It wouldn't be a waste of 2 months if it did turn out to be possible, Leopard on the old G3 iMacs and iBooks that are otherwise sadly stuck at Tiger would be awesome! Also as you can see from the date of the video it was nearly a year of my life from Leopard's release to the old Beige finally being able to enjoy that Leopardy goodness... :p
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@menace450 For a start I think you said G4 when you meant G3 so what you said didn't even make sense...if it's possible then why don't you do it, then I might believe you?
No-one in the world has done it yet and it is three years since Leopard was released - also applications like iLife '06 onwards (except iPhoto and iWeb) are compiled the same as Leopard, for G4/AltiVec only, if you try and launch them on a G3 they bounce once in the Dock and then close again, clearly showing incompatibility.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
And to upgrade do you only need the g4 processor
matchstickpro 1 year ago
@matchstickpro Pretty much - you really need a graphics card too, the onboard video in the Beige just about works but seems to make Leopard freeze after not very long so really needs to be disabled through Open Firmware (it causes freezes if it is enabled, even if not connected to a display) and a Radeon PCI card used instead, also a decent amount of memory (768 MB is the most that the Beige will take) will lead to better results with Leo.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Is it possible to do this with an iBook clamshell
matchstickpro 1 year ago
@matchstickpro The iBook's processor is soldered to the logic board so unfortunately it cannot be upgraded to the G4 chip that Leopard needs in order to run.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
it is possible to run Leopard on an old G3, using a few mods.
FutureiMacuser 1 year ago
@FutureiMacuser As long as the processor is upgraded to a G4 chip then yes.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3
That's actually not required. I saw an article on Macmod.com, where a guy got them running on a G3.
FutureiMacuser 1 year ago
@FutureiMacuser That would have been one of the pre-release Leopard builds if they were running it one the original G3 chip - the retail version was compiled by Apple without G3 support so is unfortunately impossible to run on a G3 processor.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3
Yea, it was the WWDC build.
FutureiMacuser 1 year ago
i want that display!!!! where did u get it
qoskyle1 1 year ago
@qoskyle1 It's the original Apple Studio Display from 1998, Apple's first desktop LCD display - I was given two of them and this Mac by an office that was getting new machines, you'll see them occassionally on eBay etc for not much money these days but they are relatively rare as they had a retail price of $2,000 new!
The later versions that are similar but a much lighter blue to match the "Blue and White" Power Mac G3 are a bit more common as Apple had dropped the price by the following year.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
thats impossible, since the beige g3's have old world rom :/ that must be one hevy upgraded g3 lmao.
Rio356 1 year ago
thank you because we still can find people that is giving solutions to this problems with the mac os x thank you very much for give us your time we learn a lot.
Elinternetsecurity 1 year ago
will this work on a power mac g4 !!!! please tell me !!!!!! :D
SoloJerkBoy 1 year ago
@SoloJerkBoy See the installation guide linked to in the video description for full details.
All Power Mac G4s apart from the very first one (no AGP graphics) are very easy to install Leopard on though - it's only older machines without AGP graphics slots that need the much more difficult method that had to be used with the Power Macintosh G3 as shown here.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Will this work on a iBook g3?
AppleKidWizard 1 year ago
@AppleKidWizard Check out the video description and the installation guide linked there - short answer is no as you have to upgrade the Mac to a G4 processor before it will run, as Apple compiled Leopard with no G3 support. Unlike the Power Macintosh G3 tower, the iBook has a soldered-in CPU that cannot be upgraded unfortunately.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
hehe, you switched the HDD with another computer after the install then put in the G3
hddr3 1 year ago
@hddr3 Yes, the install was done using a PC running OS X in VMware Workstation - full details in the installation guide linked to above. You don't just need to install OS X while it's in the other machine though, quite a bit of other work is needed to make the installation compatible before putting it back in the Mac
BeigeG3 1 year ago
how did you install a PCI graphics card on it? Did you need the drivers/hack or did it automatically recognize it?
3Dinvent 1 year ago
@3Dinvent Just put it in one of the PCI slots in the machine - Mac OS X has drivers for graphics cards built in so you don't need extra drivers - it needs to be the Radeon Mac Edition card though, cards with PC firmware are not compatible.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
but its a g3 mac so how did you get leopard on a g3 mac?
speedyeggbert2009 1 year ago
@speedyeggbert2009 See the video description - the processor has been upgraded with a Sonnet Encore G4.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
can you upgrade a version 10.4 to a 10.5 or 6 (LEOPARD)??
SIONExHD 1 year ago
@SIONExHD Any Mac with a PowerPC G4 or G5 processor can run Leopard (10.5)
10.6 (Snow Leopard) is only for Macs with an Intel processor sadly.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
:O how did you get it to run leopard!?!?!?
HeIIoFascination 1 year ago
@HeIIoFascination See the guide linked to in the video description, full instructions on how to do it are in there (your Beige must be upgraded to a G4 processor for it to work though)
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3 ty ;D
HeIIoFascination 1 year ago
@BeigeG3 So you really need a G4.
TheOCAShow 1 year ago
@TheOCAShow A G4 processor yes, but the machine itself ie the motherboard etc is all still 1997/98-vintage and is very much unsupported by Leopard which is why it takes a lot of work to get it installed and running, as detailed in the guide linked to in the video description.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Since you were able to run the 10.5 on your G3 then I should not have a problem installing it on my G5 which I just purchased. This is great news! Thanks for your video!
SacredComposer 1 year ago
@SacredComposer Definitely, the G5 is completely supported for Leopard and is a very powerful machine still - Leopard is fully supported on an 867 MHz PowerPC G4 or faster with no hacking etc whatsoever, and it will install on a G4 with a slower processor and AGP graphics with a very simple workaround. Macs with G4 processors but no AGP graphics (ie this Beige G3 that has been upgraded to G4) need a fair bit more work to get it going. It won't run on a G3 processor at all.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Would this work on a imac g3?
TheIshProductions 1 year ago
@TheIshProductions Check out the guide that you can download from the link in the video description - the short answer is no, as Apple compiled Leopard in such a way that it ill only run on a G4 or higher processor, and the G4 processor upgrade for the iMac G3 is very rare so you are unlikely to find one (whereas the G4 for the tower G3s is pretty common).
BeigeG3 1 year ago
wow, thats crazy
hunkashoo 1 year ago
simply amazing
juju6182 1 year ago
What is the best OS X that can run on that without any changes to the computer?
voyager8907 1 year ago
@voyager8907 OS X 10.2.8 "Jaguar" is the latest one that Apple officially supported on the Beige G3, but they will run 10.4.11 "Tiger" unsupported with XPOstFacto with the standard processor etc - you do really need to add a proper graphics card though as the built-in graphics that they come with is barely compatible with OS X (even the versions that were officially supported). For OS X 10.5 "Leopard" they need to be upgraded to the G4 processor.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Nice job!! I'm still trying to get tiger to install on my beige G3.
thegreendoctor 1 year ago 2
@thegreendoctor Was me that messaged you over at the other site about it, did you have any luck? Let me know if you have any questions about getting it to install/run :-)
BeigeG3 1 year ago
@BeigeG3 Not yet. I haven't had enough time to devote to it between work and getting my car ready for a show this weekend. If I have anymore questions, I'll definitely ask though!!
thegreendoctor 1 year ago
Dude that's my dream Mac setup, never liked them ugly clear plastic ones. I only got a few G3 upgrade cards (for 7200 and 7600) =[.
R33Racer 1 year ago
Thanks, glad you like it! :-)
BeigeG3 1 year ago
I need to install OS X leopard on a PowerMac G3 Blue and White but I can't find any place where I can get those processors upgrade. Is there any one still selling them?
KawazoeJapan 1 year ago
Not new as far as I know - try searching for "sonnet g4" on eBay, you should find one, or if not keep looking and one will come up, the 500 MHz G4 is relatively common and the 1 GHz version slightly less so. Once you've got it download the file linked to the right of the video for the full guide on what you need to do to install it.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Tall monitor is TALL
DeanGuitarsOwn 1 year ago
@xxspeedxmetalxx I belive he upgraded the processor from a PowerPC g3 to a PowerPC g4 1Ghz one that would explain why it works because leopard needs a 867 MHz processor at least a g4 PowerPC he also upgraded the ram and graphics card to run leopard I hope this answers your question
darthwaxer3130 1 year ago
It doesnt have to be 867 MHz any G4 processor will run Leopard fine, Apple just put a script in the Installer that makes it refuse to install with a slower G4 but that is very easily circumvented.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
The main challenge with this Mac is making Leopard happy with its 11 year old architecture that hasnt been supported in OS X since version 10.2 Jaguar you have to do the installation using a more compatible machine as the Leopard DVD wont boot on it, and then ad a whole load of kexts etc to it to make it run, but once its working it runs very well on this old Mac.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
so you took the HD from the old mac, put it in a new one, installed leopard, and before booting again you powered the computer off, moved the HD back to the old mac, and booted it.
richardsonl91 1 year ago
A bit more than that - I did the installation in a PC running a VMware machine of OS X, but you also have to add in a lot of kexts needed to support the Beige G3's hardware and make it bootable, run a firmware script to disable the machine's onboard graphics as they make it freeze, etc - see the complete guide linked to in the video information (top right) for the full details of what you have to do to make Leo run on the Beige.
BeigeG3 1 year ago
Dude, those integrated speakers have kick-major-ass bass, and have good quality.
sodalover477 1 year ago
i have a power mac g3 and im wondering how he did that
it seems to old
xxSpeedxMetalxx 2 years ago
There's a link in the video description (top right) to a full guide to how it is done, complete with all the files required for a successful installation
BeigeG3 2 years ago
As of today i got my beage G3. Still trying to get it to work.
WINANDMACNERD 2 years ago
If apple bargs in,tell them the license agreement says that you can only run leopard on mac hardware,but it is mac hardware!
if5103ii 2 years ago
yes! i do believe this qualifies as an "Apple-labeled computer", no matter how you interpret that term.
macfanofgi 2 years ago
That's So cool.
MSVistasucks 2 years ago
did you have to use xpostfacto/aftertheword
mysteryguy123321 2 years ago
Yes, in combination with some kexts taken from Tiger and pre-release versions of Leopard.
BeigeG3 2 years ago
how did you do that?
keeeep6 2 years ago
There's some links/information further down in the comments
BeigeG3 2 years ago
that thing has a better speaker then my 2 year old dell!!! it also handles video better too!! hahah thank god i bought an iMac 3 days ago
cookiemonster307 2 years ago 2