The thing is though, even "voluntary charity" can function identical to state handouts. Private charity forms an authoritarian relationship of dependency where the poor are continually dependent on their "donors", just like with welfare. Solidarity, however, is much different and actually does work. It's the difference between St. Mary's Bank in Manchester (a credit union based on solidarity which helped get hundreds of people out of poverty) vs. the basket brigades.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Voluntary charity exist through voluntary interaction. If you are involved in the charity voluntarily and you decide they are doing something you don't like you can easily withdraw your consent. Additionally, if I feel the charity is worth while but you don't, I can't legally force you to participate. With the state we don't have these options.
@dershope Total non-sequitur on your part. My argument was that charity keeps people poor IDENTICAL to the way state handouts keep people poor, because it keeps them in the cycle of poverty. Where the money comes from is not important.
The thing is though, even "voluntary charity" can function identical to state handouts. Private charity forms an authoritarian relationship of dependency where the poor are continually dependent on their "donors", just like with welfare. Solidarity, however, is much different and actually does work. It's the difference between St. Mary's Bank in Manchester (a credit union based on solidarity which helped get hundreds of people out of poverty) vs. the basket brigades.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Voluntary charity exist through voluntary interaction. If you are involved in the charity voluntarily and you decide they are doing something you don't like you can easily withdraw your consent. Additionally, if I feel the charity is worth while but you don't, I can't legally force you to participate. With the state we don't have these options.
dershope 1 month ago
@dershope Total non-sequitur on your part. My argument was that charity keeps people poor IDENTICAL to the way state handouts keep people poor, because it keeps them in the cycle of poverty. Where the money comes from is not important.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 month ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 My bad.
dershope 1 month ago