@Basti6814 - in Preussen?? - Danzig, Posen und so weiter waren damals in Polens Grenzen. Preussen war östlich und westlich der Gebiet um Danzig - einer Stadt, die von Anfang an bis zur Teilung polnisch war wenn obgleich merheitlich von den "Deutschen" bewohnt - Polen war ein Vielvölkerstaat.
And that's why you are all flocking to Germany, eithier way we are pretty much buying the land back, its so cheap, my friend brought 50 kms sq of farmland for 30,000 Euros.
@adgw1423 It was a genocide and ethnic cleansing. Well documented, but hardly published about. Certainly not in Anglo-American mass media. Millions of Germans were murdered. Civilians and POWs. Germany is now the collective guilt-ridden and psychologically suppressed milking cow of Europe, the Near East, Israel and the Third World. And Federal Gold of Germany is in the Federal Reserve in the USA. And the Federal Chancellors have to sign submission to the U.S. government each time.
@strzaloslaw Ach warst du enttäuscht das du unter diesem Videotitel keine Konzentrationslager und ausgehungerte Menschen sehen konntest :( ? Schon scheiße wenn man merkt das die Deutschen auch eine riesigen Kultureinfluss in Polen hatten.
@Dutbrothers With respect to my german friends who understand the past with clarity, let us try to focus on human emotions & not label one or the other as "superior". Polish experience with "neighbourly" agression, partitions, encroachment, destruction, kidnapping & murder in the name of "a people & a perceived Darwinian need for living space"; that, in recent memory, is sufficient to elicite the response you are acknowledging with sarcasm. I wish you well.
@GermanPolesCombating I am not liars and tchieves and it is simply very rude of you ,you do not know me and you wrote like this you should apology to me .I did not write meissen and bautzen are polish if you understood like this not my problem.Simply around 800 hundred years ago these towns were polish couple years and that is why have name in polish thats it.
the bottom line is! you can't stereotype base on the ethnicity! as people in general can be manipulated, brain washed to any doctrine or believe there is and that goes for Poles, Germans, Russians or any other nation. history should be our teacher ;) and not some smart azz in blue screen ;) - which will bring another question: "what is history and who is writing it" ?
It is a little bit wrong to call old Poland as commonwealth because I think it could be understood as alliance of many countrys which was not the case. The english translation of the name of the Polish state is not correct.
Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth is only partly right - this name describes political status between Poland and Lithuanien. Since 1569 Poland and Lithuanien are one common state which was called: Respublika, Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów ( Respublika of two nations)
Poland in middle ages had been understood only geographically, from the slavic word "pole" - "field". That area was only nominally controlled by Belarusians (Jagiello, Poniatowski), Swedish (Vasa), Hungarian (Hedviga,
Ludwig, Bator) and Saxon dynasties. At a time when Poland was not in Grand duchy of Lithuania or any other part of the state, it was just gray area of statehood. In which was a lot of factions and tribes (as in Somalia, now).
@ERnieGmbH Very funny! How long have you been a comedian? Why don't you give us a history lesson on Ukraine as a country now, or maybe Germany. It should be very interesting.
@flyabroom Read ERnie's post again Fly, because he's absolute correct as any Polish historian with integrity will tell you. You've slipped into the same groove of the junior student not specifying whether you mean "country" in the sense of "ukrainian people" or "voelksdeutsche" (germanic people) or the "political states" or the "territory". After all these posts, you STILL don't understand Fly, and you improperly confuse these matters to suit your self-developed mythology.
@ERnieGmbH - ich gehe davon aus, dass du aus Deutschland schreibst daher antworte ich auf deutsch - mein englisch ist schwach. Du bist ein Witzbold bzw. ein Armläuchter. Polen mit Somalia zu vergleichen ist unverschämt. Ich will dein Land nicht beleidigen, weil es viel gibt was unsere beide Länder verbindet aber Ukraine gibt es als einen Staat erst seit 1991. Polen ist dagegen 1000 Jahre alt. Ukraina - bedeutet Grenzgebiet auf Altslavisch - war immer nur ein Teil von Lithauen Polen oder Russland
@Prozent37 Von mir kannst du die Antwort auf Deutsch oder Aegnlisch haben. Wenn du es glaubst das weil in Altslavisch der Name Ukraina Grenzgebiet meinte das es keinen 'Staat' gab dann beleidigst du alle Ukrainische Voelker fuer die letzten 1000 Jahre. Erstens gab es Kievan Rus als Staat schon fruer, und zweitens die "Lithauen Polen" oder "Russland" nicht nur "ein Staat" sondern "Verbuendnisse" oft von mehreren Staaten. Da war Polen auch immer nur "ein Teil" und meint "Feld".
@historatia - ich will keine Ukrainer beleidigen, aber es gab wirklich keinen Ukrainischen Staat. Das ist historische Tatsache. Finde eine landkarte mit den Grenzen eines Ukrainischen Staates oder einen Ukrainischen König - es gab keinen. Ukraina war ein Gebiet, das ein Teil des litauischen Herzogtums war und später ein Teil von Polen war. Ukraina hat auch eine russische Vorgeschichte - kurze Zeit. Königreich Polen war kein Bündniss von mehreren Staaten!!!
@historatia -Mieszko war kein König. Er war ein Herzog und Polen damals kein Königreich. Du redest von Anfängen des polnischen Staates. Unter Boleslaw Hrobry 992-1025 war Polen schon unabhängig und ein Königreich. "Polen ein Teil Sachsen" - bist du bescheuert oder was? Polen haben einen sächsischen König zum polnischen König gewählt. In Polen wurden Könige gewählt und manchmal waren Ausländer auf dem Trohn.
@Prozent37 Du redest Quatsch von einem 1000 jaehrige Polen. Mieszko war naemlich ein "Vassel" von Otto I, und NICHT unabhaengich. Dan war Polen ein Teil der Anjouan Laender als die FRAU Hedwig der "Koenig" von Polen war, Napoleon usw..N Und als der Augustus auf dem Thron war war Polen doch ein Teil der Sachsen unter -- nicht war? Also hoer doch auch mit diesem "1000 Jahre Polen" Kramm. So ein "reine" poelnischer Staat wie sich das Dmowski vorgestehlt hat gab es NIEMALS in der Geschichte.
@Prozent37 Sondern es gab polnische Voelker die nur sehr langsam civilisiert wurden, erst by der Kirche und dann der einfuerung Deutsche Gesetze (Kulm, Magdeburg, usw., und dan Deutsche Kunst und Technik. Das passiert immer noch; aber leider zu langsam. Zu oft in der Geschichte haben die polnischen Voelker ein Fuehrertum gehabt das mit eingefuehrten militaerischen Technik versuchte andere zu Unterdrucken und "Grossmacht" zu werden. Das gelingt den Polen nie.
@ERnieGmbH what is your thesis? oh..Poland is inferior. unimportant,un...,un...etc,but Germany, oh...!that's it, finished /just every German daily bread/. and for this you glitter with your astonishing, shameless ignorance: Poniatowski 1732-1798 was of middle ages,WOW, and you puting him along with Jagiello 1351-1434,nice.and telling both were "Belorussians". I have great respect for our Belorussian brothers, but sorry, not for imbecilles no matter where they come from.
Evry german are nazi. Without them, the world would be a better place to life.Go back to hell, you barbarians and suck your furher dick. The world will remember what have you done for evry nation.
It's funny, because of you "true" prussians - Baltic Prussians was completed exterminated!
@historatia youre wrong. I never said that Im Irish. I dont care of such a things like "relationship status on facebook" and any other stuff like that. I leave it for, you, Helmut. You have problems with that so you try to solve it.
I also didnt put any information about my shoe size, and I DONT CARE if youtube set some default to this. So the nex time if you find some interesting information about that just let me know...
@badur77 they did not give us cities.Most of this cities were founded by Poles or Polish tribes and stolen by germans.They gave us back what was ours,they destroyed them and gave back haha.They gave us nothing for what they did.Purely nothing!!!After 2 WW they got huge help from USA zionists.We got nothing and we got raperd ba soviets as add.for 50 years.And we r still here and will be forever,rich in culture,beauty.Great Poland.
@ERnieGmbH ahhahahahahahahhahaha u have shown ur deep stupidity,u r fucking cretin hahahahahaah.Every language has its own versions of ciies names hahahahah.London for polish is Londyn and Paris is Paryż,Munich is Monachium so it means those cities are all Polish ahahh.Germany for polish is Niemcy so it means that all germany is Polish cuz it has polish name hahah,U amazingly retarded as most of germans nazists.Warshau is german version of original Warszawa,danzing-Gdańsk,Breslau-Wrocław etc
@ERnieGmbH Does it actually mean that all Polish people are really German? They always lived there. It is their land. My ancestors lived around what you call Danzig area for tousands of years. They were citizens of many countries, Prussia, Germany, Poland. Before these countries were even formed they were called Goths. I don't think that names of the countries should matter. It is the people that matter. They were always there, it is their land.
@ERnieGmbH The German sounding names like Marienburg come from the invaders. It was the German Teutonic Order who were invited by the Polish king to invade the land of my ancestors. They came, opressed the natives, enforced christian religion, and invented their own names to describe the land. Barbaric. Polish kind basically used Germans tho conquare the large part of baltic coast, and later kicked them out with the help of the natives.
Germans always repeat the Goebbels lies, this is the most ridicculous thing. They have no honor to admit, that they are responsible for the outbreak of II War in 100 per cent!
@badur77 On the contrary. Almost every german acknowledges who startet the war. Germany did. But that does not justify the ethnic cleansing of germanys east after the war. USA started war of Iraq ... If Iraq was victorious, would it be allowed to cease california and expell every US american living there? Of course not.
@badur77 For certain the answer is NO to the 100% crap you put up. The simple fact is that the "statesmen" of Europe, and the leaders of the United States all have a major share in the reasons by war started in 1939. Shout your nonsense as loud as you want. Nobody of any learning or intelligence will agree with you.
Fuck you all nazi dogs! Go back to your DEUstchlandus. we rebuilt these cities and they are our now. The destructions of Warsaw is worth more than 45 billion dolars! Pay for this!
@1000razyja If your home burns down and I expell you from that home and rebuild it ... does it belong to me then? I don't think so. In the end germany ceded those territories to poland in order to establish peace and friendship. Do appreciate that! There is no point in finger-pointing cuz every side had immense losses in WW2. We have to look to the future not backwards.
I just gave you the truth and the facts. Problem is that you don't like these facts. Silesians speak in Polish dialect. Every Pole can understand them perfectly, but Germans can't. So, dream on my boy.
• GDANSK. 980s - Established by Mieszko I of Poland. 997-1308: Kingdom of Poland , 1308-1454: Teutonic Order, 1454-1466: Thirteen Years' War (free), 1466-1569: Kingdom of Poland, 1569-1793: Poland, 1793-1805: Prussia, 1807-1814: free city, 1815-1871: Prussia, 1871-1918: Imperial Germany, 1918-1939: free city, 1939-1945: Nazi Germany, 1945–now: Poland.
Total: Teutons, Prussia, Germany: 367 years, Free city: 40 years, Poland: 703 years.
968 AD The ruler of Poland, Mieszko I go over to the Christian faith, and confirms the supremacy of the German Emperor. The country between the Oder and Neisse is given by Emperor Otto I, as an imperial fief of Mieszko I, the later so-called Piastenreich.
Mieszko I recognize the superiority of the German Emperor and make tribute payments to avoid a formal feud prescription.
1038 AD Bohemia conquered Silesia and transferred the bones of St. Adalbert to Prague.
@Radagis2 1135 AD to court day Merseburg: Duke Boleslaw III. Poland subjects by the Emperor Lothar III.
Summer 1157
Emperor Frederick I (Barbarossa) submits Duke Boleslaw IV, as it denied the army in the episode, which he is obliged as a feudal dependence on the German Emperor.
1163 AD
Silesia is to the German-minded sons Ladislaus II
Silesia is released as an independent duchy of Poland. The ethnic Germanize Silesia begins.
Henry I of Lower Silesia Silesian founded his empire, which ranges from Leubus to the San, of the Sudeten up on the Warta River. Through his wife Hedwig von Andechs-Merano (Holy Hedwig ", later patron saint of Silesia), founder of the first Silesian nunnery in the House, he is related to the most important royal patrons of the East German settlement work. German settlement in Silesia, language and culture.
@Radagis2 1241 destruction of the German settlement work by the Mongols. In heroic defensive battle Duke Henry II falls on the battlefield. The Mongols destroyed in 1242 by the Wroclaw is created. 1241 - 1266
Duke Henry III. founding of Silesian towns and villages with German settlers and German law.
24. August 1335 the Treaty of Trenčín King Casimir III . of Poland renounced to Silesia "for all time" which is under the suzerainty of Bohemian Silesia regions.
@Radagis2 1526 King Louis of Bohemia died on Mohatsch in the fight against the Turks. Silesia came under the crown of the Catholic Habsburg. 1537 fraternization between Friedrich II of Legnica-Brzeg-Wohlau and Elector Joachim II of Brandenburg. Growing influence of the Hohenzollern in Silesia. Therefore, the Habsburg King Ferdinand I declared the inheritance contract null and void. 1740 King Frederick II, the Great marched into Silesia (three Silesian Wars). It never realy belonged to Poland
@Radagis2 Sorry son. People roamed in those days, but the first known states in Silesia were the Czech (Slavic) proto-states of Greater Moravia and Bohemia. In year 966, Polish ruler Mieszko I incorporated Silesia into the Polish state. In the Middle Ages, Silesia was divided among duchies ruled by Silesian dukes of the Polish Piast dynasty. Only in 1742, parts of Silesia were seized by King Frederick the Great of Prussia. Thus, it was German for only 177 years, and Polish for 866 years!
@flyabroom This is Polish romanticism and wishful thinking. It was never Polish. Any serious historical writing except the Polish knows that. You claim and even Cologne urpolnisch what most ridiculous. Thats why in 1990 Russia wandet to give ous our holy land back.
These regions have been and will always be German manner, you polski can rebel againt the real facts how much you like it. The truth and the right is on our side.
@Radagis2 - Du gehörst wohl zu den Leuten, die eine Katze vor sich sehend behaupten würden es sei ein Hund und niemand könnte dir das aus dem Kopf schlagen. Du bist in deine Meinung über Polen und die polnische Geschichte so fest gefahren, dass du nicht mehr merkst wie weit du sich von historischen Tatsachen bewegst. Diese Doku zeigt wie einst die Wirklichkeit in Polen war einem Land der vielen Völker und Sprachen.
@Prozent37 Klar war es ein Land mit vielen Völkern und Sprachen, weil sie nun mal Gebiete beanspruchten die niemals wirklich zu Polen gehörten. Wenn ich mich 100 nach historischen Tatsachen bewegen täte müsste ich euch das gesamte polnische Gebiet aberkennen, da der Germanen schon immer dort lebten. Die Gebiete die ihr beansprucht, waren nun mal nur ein Lehen welches ihr von den deutschen kurzeitig bekommen hattet und dann wie ich dagelegt habe in historischen Fakten für immer drauf verzichtet.
@Radagis2 - deine Vorstellung von der polnischen Geschichte ist eine Märchenblase. Wenn man etwas behauptet solte man auch in der Lage sein das zu beweisen. Du sprichst davon, dass da immer nur Germanen lebten was überhaupt nicht der Wahrheit entspricht und nichts mit Geschichte Polens zu tun hat.
Ich nehme an es ist eine Anspielung auf die Zeit der Völkerwanderung - die Goten in Polen. Zu der Zeit gab es nur Rom und Barbaren.
@Prozent37 Das das UNSINN ist ist schell beweisbar. Lese mal TACITUS der in Romischen Zeiten davon geschrieben hat. oder Pliny der auch schon in den Zeiten darueber geschrieben hat, oder forsche mal die Archieologie. Alles zeigt das Du Unsinn schreibt um zu behaupten das es poelnische Laender waren. NICHT WAR. Lese mal die Schreibung von polnischer Professor Alexander Schenker ueber die Urheimat den Slaven, usw. Du kennst zu wenig davon und schreibst Mist.
@historatia YOU SAID IT! "Through" Otto is the key word. He was an intermediary, a messenger, or servant to the Pope. Other than that, Mieszko was the King of Poland and Otto was the king of Germany. Soon enough their armies crossed swords in the field, because of manipulations like yours.
@Radagis2 - Als der polnische Staat entstanden war waren die Gebiete, die heutiges Polen und Teile Ostdeutschland umfassen von Slaven bewohnt. Selbstverständlich waren nicht alle Slaven Polen ganz gleich wie die Germanen, die man auch lange Zeit nicht als Deutsche bezeichnen konnte. Es gab viele Stämme, die meistens durch Kriege mehr oder weniger zu einem Volk geworden sind. Ursprünglich zur Zeit der ersten polnischen Herrscher hat Polen ähnliche Grenzen wie heute.
@Radagis2 - Später und zwar eine lange Zeit ähnelten sie den Grenzen vor 1939. Du spricht von Lehngebieten, die Polen bekam - beweise, dass es so war. Polen bekam nie irgendwelche Lehngebiete von dem Heiligen Römischen Reich Deutscher Nation. Außerdem deiner Logik folgend gehört halb Deutschland zu Italien. Städte wie Bonn, Köln wurden von den Römern gegründet und damals gab es da kein Deutschland lediglich verschiedene germanische oder keltische Stämme, die sich auch oft selbst bekämpften.
@Radagis2 - die deutschen, die in Polen hunderte Jahre lang lebten wurden nach Polen eingeladen. das Land war groß und durch viele Kriege entvölkert. Entstanden deutsche Dörfer, kamen viele Siedler aus dem Westen und das nicht nur im Mittelalter sondern auch später wegen der Einschränkungen der Religionsfreiheit im Westen. Und im 19ten Jhr wurde das Land gezielt kolonisiert - zum Beispiel Posen.
@flyabroom If you follow that logic you have to get out of the United States of America. Cuz it once belonged to Indians entirely ... The process of german "Ostkolonisation" was way more peaceful compared to the colonisation of America by Europeans. So after roughly 500 years, the country now belongs to you. Same thing happenend in the former eastern territories of germany, except they were german for more than 700 years.
@Jonesdude666 The process of german "Ostkolonisation" was NOT always peaceful. In fact, it often caused conflicts. Teutonic wars, partitions of Poland, WWI and WWII were attempts at violent takeovers of land for German colonization. These attempts of colonization have been the major source of bloody conflicts over Poland, and in Central Europe generally.
@flyabroom Yeah I know. But they were in general more peaceful than the colonization of america. Teutonic Wars were not mainly part of Ostkolonisation but merely power struggles as they happened all the time (like the 30 years war, the 7 years war, prussian-austrian war etc), as were the partitions of poland. No germans were settled poland then and polish people have not been germanized under prussian rule. WW1 was definitely no attempt to seize land for germany. WW2 yes cuz of fucked up Hitler
@flyabroom You're at it again Fly. Nonsense. It was the continuous attempts by the Poles to come downriver from the upper Vistuala and upper Bug and Pregel rivers into lands occupied and settled by others that caused all the trouble. When Konrad made a deal with the Teutonic crusaders to conquer the Prussians, that was part of his attempt to take territory THAT WAS NOT POLISH. It was a war of conquest! He then couldn't pay his bill so the Pole gave the suzerainty to the knights instead!
@flyabroom Fly, you should watch this vid until it sinks in. Then drum out of your cement head the view that you or Poles decide what is "Poland", especially where the "state" was a "commonwealth" in which the parts decided finally to dissolve it BECAUSE the "Poles" went on "polonization" binges that attempted to destroy the settlement fabric of others, including the then adopted legal structure that everybody had agreed to. YOU just keep repeating the same blunders over and over again.
@flyabroom Fly, for the 100th time, it was NOT Polish land 1000 years ago. Germanic tribes lived along the Baltic coast from pre-historic times on. The Polish slavs were far upriver on the Vistual and Bug, and Pregel and the Prippet marshes, but trying to FORCE themselves on the people to the north and west. Slavs were the invaders Fly, not the other way around. You're and aggressive little people aren't you.
@Prozent37 Das is Quatsch. Eingesiedelt sind Sie. Aber du behauptest dabei das Sie "eingeladen" waren by POLNISHEN AUTHORITAET. Das ist Quatsch. Weder Pommern oder Preussen oder das Memelland war "polnisch". Sondern the Ordenstaat hat die frueheren Bevoelkerung -- die NICHT POLEN WAREN -- beobert. Danach kamen die Deutschen Siedler. Zum Beispielt Mewe (Gniew) sowie Maienburg war etabliert by Orden, und NICHT by Polen. Du redest Quatsch.
@Radagis2 - Dass in einer oder anderen Stadt viele Deutsche lebten bedeutet nicht, dass die Städte deutsch waren. Bis 1939 hat Polen, die richtigen historischen Grenzen - leider ohne Danzig, die selbstverständlich eine historische polnische Stadt war und ist - das ist unbestrittene Tatsache.
@Radagis2 Mieszko was the first to offer the state as a fief to the Popes of Rome, and many European states later followed. It was a figurative donation however, for protection from attacks by other Christian sates. The Popes were nominally the owners, entitled to a symbolic annual tribute, but the Piast continued to rule. Otto acted only as an agent (intermediary) for the papacy. Poland was NEVER a fief to Germany. Your manipulations of facts are nothing more than wishful thinking.
@flyabroom You are WRONG Fly. Mieszko was a VASSAL of Otto I. Get that FACT through your head even if you wish it weren't true with this "cock 'n bull' about Otto only acting as an intermediary. OTTO was the EMPEROR, not some "agent (intermediary)". That is PURE nonsense Fly, and I think you actually KNOW that.
@flyabroom History of Poland "Threatened by German expansionism, Mieszko moves with extraordinary speed - using the structures of feudal Europe to secure his territory. Within a year or two of this first link with the German empire, he has himself accepted as a vassal of the newly crowned emperor Otto I.
@flyabroom (more) "In 965 Mieszko marries a Christian Czech princess. In the following year he adopts the Roman Catholic faith for himself, his family and all his people. To secure Poland's position even further, he subsequently places all his lands under the direct authority of the pope - thus providing the Poles, in principle, with the special protection of Rome." All of this THROUGH OTTO.
kilka lat temu przeprowadzono badania gentyczne osetyńczyków i grobów scytów, okazało się, że... Osetyńczycy nie mają nic wspólnego ze Scytami, i tym samym Sarmatami i Alanami //\\ wcześniej zaliczano ich do tych narodów ponieważ nie pasowali do niczego innego - to była teza wylansowana przez jakś amerykankę w 1956 roku... //\\ Scytowie są identyczni genetycznie z Polakami, Rosjanmi, czy Ukraińcami //\\ R1a1a występuje również i to w 80% u Ariów w Indiach (Braminii) - wyzsza kasta w Indiach
this is so strange: germans using history to prove the territories is theirs, and poles using fiction to prove it is really theirs. the land belongs to whoever is born on it, that is his "nativity" took place there. so he is a "native". there is not other right more important than that. people who have been living and born in seilisia, eastern pomerania and brandenburg, as well as east prussia, have been poles for generations. so the land belongs to them, no matter what was there before 1945
Die Antwort bis "deutsche Oberschlesien" und so weiter...
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Bitte überprüfen Sie der Begriff "R1a1a". Die Leute aus der Polen besitzen R1a1a heute in zirka 65%. Die Leute aus der Deutschland besitzen R1a1a heute weniger als 20% (diese 20% ist das Germanisiert Slawen aus die Ost-Deutschland). Die Leute aus die Lausitzer Kultur besitzen ebenfalls R1a1a in den meisten. Wie ist aus dieser Vorschlag? Entschuldigen fur meine deutsch...
@slaworesovia Deine eine Antort verstehe ich nicht da ich kein polnisch kann. Der heutige Prozentzahl R1a1a kann man nicht auf die damaligen übertragen und sowieso mit vorsicht zu genießen. Der ursprüngliche kleine Stamm der Polen wurde von den Mongolen fast vollständig ausgerottet und so holte der polnische Adel sehr viele Deutsche Siedler in die von ihnen verwalteten Gebiete. Zweitens die Germanen machten die größte Bevölkerungsgruppe aus und es sind nie alle trotz Völkerwanderung gegangen.
Huete in Polen deklarieren als Deutsche max 300 000 Menschen (official 60 000). Sie alle haben polnische/deutsche Wurzeln. Volkszählung ist jetzt so vielleicht etwas ändern wird... In Deutschland ist 1,5-2,5 millionen Polen, aber nur zirka 200 000 als Nationalinderheit, aber Deutschland verleiht keine Rechte... (Macht Recht). Der Rest sind Arbeitnehmer... In Schlesien wohnen heute etwas 11,5 Millionen Menschen :)
@slaworesovia Das ist ja auch kein Wunder, da ihr über 14 Millionen Deutsche nach dem 8.5.45 bis 1950 Zwangersvertrieben habt, das sind nicht eingerechnet welche schon vorher flohen und jene Millionen Schlesier die dem polnischen Terror von 1919-1939 empflohen sind. Was heute in der DNA aufgezeigt ist, ist nicht mehr relevant, da mittlerweile viele Khasaren und auch bei euch Polen leben, die weder mit den Germanen noch mit den Slawen verwandt sind.
@3DSFuture It was and will be always germanic. Your slavic people came in the 600 century. Germanic tribes live at slesia many 1000 years before your people came from aisa to europe.
Perhaps you were born there but your people are no real Silesian, the most real sileian people were displaced persons by polnish terror since 1919 specially since 1945. Just a small minority of real silesian exist today at Silesia, It is just under polnish administration b belonged furthermore to the german empire
ponadto Słowianie byli w Polsce przynajmniej do I w n. e.
Tacyt w dziele ''Germania'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec na wschód od Wisły, Pliniusz Starszy w dziele ''Historia naturalna'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec pomiędzy Bałtykiem a Morzem Czarnym, Ptolemeusz z Aleksandrii w dziele ''Geographia'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec Zatoki Wendyjskiej (Zatoka Gdańska) i na wschód od rzeki Wistuli (Wisły). Wenedzi = kultura przeworska.
this part of middle-europa has always been a part of slawish-german tribes! so we cant say exactly what belongs to which part, we just have got a new chance, to make the best of it, so brothers from poland lets try us! i am also so an half-made-european in shlesia!
@6000mikesch The lands on east from oder belongs to slavs. And in X century many lands on west from oder was belongs to slavs. Gerrmans will never cross this river again..
Germanic tribes lived in present polish territory centuries before slavs, due to the migration period they moved to the west and slavs pushed from the east. From the 11th century on german reimmigration started to what was largely slavic setteled, mostly called by the slavic landlords. They brought the western/middle european knwoledge of artisanry and farming in the middle age, founded cities and villages, cultivated the country, many were assimilated. They´re part of polish history and land!
@GurnySlunzok you're right. when Poland and P-L Commonwealth were strong the conflicts between Poles and Germans occured quite rarely. the relations were starting to get worse when the power of P-L Commonwealth declined and Prussian Kingdom got stronger and after participation of P-L C. Many Poles have German surnames because their ancestors received Polish culture and identity and became part of Polish nation.
@Lattarnik yeah exactly, poles are more related to germans than most of them think. Both people have been bounded together for over centuries. Well...at least we all come from Babel, right ;)
@GurnySlunzok and more germans is related to poles that they've ever can think...it's all in dna and dna says that modern germans are truly "germans" in less than 30%,most of them are celts actually,semic people and....slavians:)
...in compare even now-poles are the most close people as nation in all europe(more than 60% have the same r1a1 type) so who is more related to who?:)
-->and you should also remember that even if some poles have german surnames,it doesn't mean anything...surely their families could go to poland from some german speaking countries-why not:) but while occupation(1795-..),people chose german surname's(the same like jewish people in germany) too..
@YouKnowWhatYouAre gurnyslunzok came directly from ancient "country" silesia which have directly roots in far far more ancient kingdom of atlantis people:)
so it's quite similar with germans who may!!! in the same style,lived on these territories even together with dinosaurs:P
dzieciaczki bawia sie w folkdojczow...dziadziu pewnie osiadl na ziemiach odzyskanych:)ale wnuczkowi oslowi zachciewa sie byc "slunzokiem"(a takim ciezko pomyslec o czyms wiecej niz zarciu a co dopiero o slasku poczytac):)
@GurnySlunzok hehe i can understand that you wanna see them everywhere as guy from that part of silesia;)-it's quite trendy now i know:) but it's only partially true( it was very popular trend in germany before first world war when they wanted place roots of slavians in some forrest's or so):)
->name's like berlin(slavian name) and examples like fact that for romans word "german" meant "guy from north"==all tribes who attacked them by ages from north or unclear roots of tribes like allan's(for romans they were germans) or even wandals(for sure we know that slavians tribes were there too but not who were wandals) who took rome and create their own country in modern marocco:) etc etc
@GurnySlunzok your a fucking retard thats your only excuse why you scwabs invaded hahah and were defreated by the poles, it took 3 countries take over 2 hahaha you never get rid of Poland
@GurnySlunzok not whole territory of present Poland was settled by german tribes>west side of vistula was land of Polish tribes,they are part of our history and we are part of german history,our cultures were teaching from each other,it's not that german were teaching us hahahah in middle ages Poland was as strong as germany,u wanna show that germans are better race which had shown others how to farm and what is art hahah its fucking lie u Nazi narrow minded ass
@MrThorn88 So how about TODAY. Poland builds buses with US engines and German parts assembled by Polish workers (Posen). The largest potatoe farms in Poland have shifted to German machinery to become competitive, etc etc. Why is that necessary when the Poles claim to have always done everything better themselves. If your miltiary was as spectacular in WWII, as today's Polish mythilogists claim, how come Poland couldn't turn back Hitler's assaults?
@historatia No country in the world could turn back hitler's assault,France lost in 7 days.Second thing is germas are primitive retarded motherfuckers,shallow and void of feelings animals.
@MrThorn88 - z tym gosciem historatia nie da sie rozsadnie rozmawiac - on jest jakis nienormalny. Nie wiem jakie on ksiazki czytal :/
Ten koles jest z pochodzenia niemcem - chyba sie naczytal tych drukow sprzed 1945 z wrona na okladce. Naszczescie tacy niemcy jak on to wyjatki - jest ich wiecej tu na YouTube niz w rzeczywistosci na ulicach - wiem z doswiadczenia.
@Prozent37 wiem ale to wstyd dla Niemców takie wymoczki:)a słysząc takie bzdety i wiedząc ze setki młodych ludzi z całego swiata może uznać ze on ma racje jest po trosze...wkurwiające:)
@MrThorn88 Clearly you know very little about the status of military. Under General Heinrici the able soldiers and lower ranks of the Poles, well armed with excellent French tanks, and superb Schneider 105 mm artillery and armour piercing shells COULD have stopped the Wehrmacht assault. What does that make the total Polish military beaten by the Germans who are so are "primitive retarded motherfuckers"???? The Poles had VERY poor military leadership in Rydz-Smigly and Josef Beck.
@historatia we didn't have better army than France and they lost within 7 days.German army was huge number of equipment,german animal soldiers and was modern cuz germans always have been expansionists,aggresive,unable to feel monkeys who talk barking,u shown that ur, intelligence is only about killing u have shown it well.retarded by unabilty to feel nation.U don't deserve living.
@MrThorn88 That's absolute nonsense in FACT. The French has 5.2 million men trained and ready to go, MORE than the Germans. During the Polish campaign the Germans only had 12 Divisions on the Western Front against that enormous French Army. The French ALONE had MORE ARMOUR and MORE Artillery than the Germans. The French defeat had NOTHING do with the SIZE of the German force. In fact the Poles using exceptional artillery took out a full 30% of the armour that the Wehrmacht started with.
@historatia what is nonsense that u lost within 7 days??Iknow that france had bigger army but german army was more modern and they had aggresive worked out strategy,europe wasn't prepare for that aggresive animal attack
@MrThorn88 The Poles had BETTER tanks than the Germans (the French ones). The Schneider 105 pipes that the Germans captured from Poland lasted them for the entire war, etc etc. With 65 years of propaganda, the Wehrmacht has been extolled into Ubermensch status that is not factual. . The main German advantage was the incompetence of Polish and French military strategists and leadership and their own very skilled ones.
was the strategic incompetence of the top Polish military strategies
@MrThorn88 The Poles lost so rapidly because, in completely unwarranted anticipation of the French and British assistance, the Poles moved their forces in March 1939 into a "counter-offensive" position and Rydz-Smigly and Beck actually BELIEVED that they would be in an attack on a rapidly retreating Wehrmacht that had left only 12 Divisions that would crumble under a French attack. The French lost so rapidly because they organized the the Brit/French force to fight the Wehrmacht in Belgium.
@MrThorn88 They did this because they did not want the war to be fought in France after the damage of WWI. That allowed the mobile forces of the Wehrmacht to make a brilliant counter-stroke and push the Brits off the Continent while flanking the Maginot Line that held out for a few more weeks. To stop a norther front the Germans occupied Norway exactly ONE DAY before the British were to land there. Brilliant stroke, even though the Germans has a a navy about 8% the size of the British.
@MrThorn88 The reason that the propaganda of the extraordinary size and quality of the German Werhmacht is allowed to stand is that none of the allied nations want to admit the extraordinary incompetence of their military leadership. On its face it is simply NOT true that the Germans EVER had the resources to consider a strike at Russia. That was necessitated when it became clear that Stalin was massing for an attack to start when the Germans had been tuckered out in the war with Britain/France
@MrThorn88 I am constantly amazed to read posts like yours. Do you REALLY believe that Hitler, without a decent wide track tank for Russian conditions, nor winter clothing for the Wehrmacht actually intended in 1939 to take on the Soviet Union? Do you really believe that the Germans were THAT dumb? You have a propagandized view. If you are a Pole, then study Monte Cassino. Compare the leadership of the small German forces to the clowns that led the US 2nd and Brits 8th Armies.
@MrThorn88 You should realize that even in May 1941 the Wehrmacht was still NOT outfitted and equipped for a war with the Soviet military. If Hitler was taking on the world, then why didn't they design suitable tanks and winter warfare gear in 1937 and 1938. Don't be so gullible to what the propaganda drums tell you. Learn a few basic facts and look at the strategic issues involved.
@historatia there's no matter who had batter army,europe wasn't prepare for that aggresive and animal attack.Poland wasn't preapare strategicaly as europe was not as well.As we know sometimes agressive eratic dogs are unpredicable.Germans are animals not humans.
@MrThorn88 Well then, the matters of reliance on factual information and some sense of perspective and truth doesn't enter your consciousness, so I would have to conclude the YOU are also an animal as you are clearly incapable of human interactiion and thought. arf arf arf growl.
@BoxOpening so read what shit they are writing in here,Nazi propaganda rules their minds and they infect youngsters from all over the world with lies.What about Erica Steinbah?she is spreading it in German parlament and she is a leader of big party.Also i know how some of u treat Poles,like shit,some of u still think u r better kind.
@MrThorn88 maybe that is right. But as I said most germans are nice and tolerant. Germany is very multicultural! Dont listen to stupid german people which post nazi commentarys. They are all idiots.
@MrThorn88 okay good^^ but please dont say something like "germans are animals" because then they get insulted (like I). I hope that all these f****** naz*s stop posting stupid commentarys! In a year I will move to Poland..... Hope it will be nice!!!
@BoxOpening Ok Ok:))))So don't feel insulted:)I wanted to piss those idiots off by insulting their nation cuz it hurts.I wanted them to feel this way:)I don't really think u r animals:) Also biologicaly we are all animals;))) Why are You moving to Poland???
@MrThorn88 I finished school and want to live and work in another country for 1 year, before I study. And I decided to come to Poland^^ The cultur is interesting....ând the most people I met were kind!
@BoxOpening Szczecin is not nice.Get Gdańsk,Warszawa or Krakow.I recommend Gdańsk or Krakow,also Wrocław:)About job it can be hard cuz it's not easy to get job in Poland:))Are u learning polish?
@MrThorn88 You make a serious mistake in assuming that all slavic tribes were POLISH. NONSENSE. Lusations, Kasubians and Slovinci were/are slavic, but ONLY Poles think of them as "polish". My Kasubian/Lusatian grandparents would have boxed the ears of anyone that claimed that either of their peoples were Polish. That is an IGNORANT that polish attitude.
@historatia I don't assume that but Lusatians and kasubians were always part of Polish state,they were speaking both their dialect and polish language.If ur grandparents didn't feel Polish means they were idiots.They were Kasubians and Polish as well.and europeans and earthians as well.and wtf Slovinci has to do with that?Many slavic tribes speaking the same language decided to unify under Polish crown and become one nation just like othet countries did.Wales or Scotish ppl are not British?think
@GurnySlunzok germans were always minority and they were fuonding cities but only few percent of all cities ,they were minority so they had influence on us but minor.we built our country,we have rich art and heritage,different from german.and during 2 ww u destroyed everything what u brougt (your few percent)in and 80 percent of what we built bravo friends hahah
NAZI VÖGEL erzählen MAL WIEDER SCHEIßE !! deutsche sind abgehauen als sie ahnten dass die odtfront gegen die russen+paar polnischer partizanen verloren geht ! dann sind sie geflüchtet aus angst dass die russen mit ihnen das machen was die deutschen in ganz EU taten es gibt dazu neue reportagen stalingrad lief auf phönix dann wurden deutsche nicht vertrieben nur die peinlichen deutschen hofften das wenn sie ihre propaganda augfrecht erhalt das sie ihre häuser zurückbekommenALSO ALLES LÜGE !
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@allerich1 Exactly. Thank you for pointing our Polish chauvinistic propaganda at YouTube. Even YT-administrators from Poland are blocking critics of Polish imperialism from Silesia. It is childish, but Polish reality. The Poles are very insecure and very uncertain about their past and about their future. They seem to need anti-German myths and lies.
Es sollte heißen Deutsche in PREUßEN!!!!
Basti6814 3 weeks ago
@Basti6814 Danzig und das Gebiet um die Stadt war aber kein Preussen. Das war damals Polen und zwar seit sehl lange.
Prozent37 1 week ago
@Basti6814 - in Preussen?? - Danzig, Posen und so weiter waren damals in Polens Grenzen. Preussen war östlich und westlich der Gebiet um Danzig - einer Stadt, die von Anfang an bis zur Teilung polnisch war wenn obgleich merheitlich von den "Deutschen" bewohnt - Polen war ein Vielvölkerstaat.
Prozent37 4 days ago
Some things said in the movie are lie!!! Fuck german liars,fucking dirty dogs.
MrThorn88 3 weeks ago
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And that's why you are all flocking to Germany, eithier way we are pretty much buying the land back, its so cheap, my friend brought 50 kms sq of farmland for 30,000 Euros.
Inv1nc1b1e 2 hours ago
Germans are uneducated,agressive subhumans.We don't want them in Poland.
MrThorn88 3 weeks ago
Yes, it's quite obvious Poland benefited from the technical skills of Germans.
Darknessinpit57 1 month ago
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these lands are Polish forever!
german crimeous animals - keep your dirty and smelly hands away of these lands!!!
badur77 2 months ago
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tusmorninginsept911 3 months ago
pushing the germans out of eastern europe post-wwII is the atrocity you never hear about
adgw1423 3 months ago
@adgw1423 It was a genocide and ethnic cleansing. Well documented, but hardly published about. Certainly not in Anglo-American mass media. Millions of Germans were murdered. Civilians and POWs. Germany is now the collective guilt-ridden and psychologically suppressed milking cow of Europe, the Near East, Israel and the Third World. And Federal Gold of Germany is in the Federal Reserve in the USA. And the Federal Chancellors have to sign submission to the U.S. government each time.
IustitiaPax 3 months ago
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atrocity is to be fucking german!.
Dirty and smelly crimeous nation!
childrenslaughters and womenslaughters!
badur77 2 months ago
@adgw1423 nobody invite you there!! that was slavic land....east germany belongs to polaban slavs so you should be happy with your borders.
YMCAmember 1 month ago 2
Very interesting. Where is the rest of the video?
rklight33 4 months ago
Zeigt bitte eine andere "Kulturerbe" der Deutschen in Polen: Auschwitz, Majdanek usw.
strzaloslaw 5 months ago 10
@strzaloslaw Ach warst du enttäuscht das du unter diesem Videotitel keine Konzentrationslager und ausgehungerte Menschen sehen konntest :( ? Schon scheiße wenn man merkt das die Deutschen auch eine riesigen Kultureinfluss in Polen hatten.
Dutbrothers 4 months ago
@Dutbrothers With respect to my german friends who understand the past with clarity, let us try to focus on human emotions & not label one or the other as "superior". Polish experience with "neighbourly" agression, partitions, encroachment, destruction, kidnapping & murder in the name of "a people & a perceived Darwinian need for living space"; that, in recent memory, is sufficient to elicite the response you are acknowledging with sarcasm. I wish you well.
CountGrishnaak 4 months ago
@CountGrishnaak Yea but there is another side. that polish and german tribes build this land and they both had a big influence on culture.
Dutbrothers 4 months ago
@Dutbrothers Good day, I hope they will continue to build in the present & for the future, be well.
CountGrishnaak 4 months ago
@venti885 fuck deutchland we kill you with passion
lopez5678 5 months ago
@lopez5678 Nice post, you must be a very clever person to come out with such a wonderfully expressive sentiment.
brentano2277 4 months ago
@lopez5678 u mast be sick ! and polish man is telling u that!
michonn2 3 months ago
bautzen und meissen-polish budziszyn i miśnia
tommi59tk 5 months ago
@tommi59tk
bautzen and meißen are 100 % german names just as beuthen, posen and allenstein.
in polish there is a translation for EVERY german city until akwizgran.
so don't dream too much, you're liars and thieves.
GermanPolesCombating 5 months ago
@GermanPolesCombating I am not liars and tchieves and it is simply very rude of you ,you do not know me and you wrote like this you should apology to me .I did not write meissen and bautzen are polish if you understood like this not my problem.Simply around 800 hundred years ago these towns were polish couple years and that is why have name in polish thats it.
tommi59tk 5 months ago
@tommi59tk Don't waste your time with modern day left-over nazi sewage. They deserve some hot lead between the eyes.
CountGrishnaak 5 months ago
@CountGrishnaak I know they deserved but they want young generation to believe they did not do camps itc
tommi59tk 5 months ago
@tommi59tk Yes Tommi, Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it---Santayana
CountGrishnaak 5 months ago
Mind next time what you write
tommi59tk 5 months ago
@venti885 it was very ruud
tommi59tk 5 months ago
the bottom line is! you can't stereotype base on the ethnicity! as people in general can be manipulated, brain washed to any doctrine or believe there is and that goes for Poles, Germans, Russians or any other nation. history should be our teacher ;) and not some smart azz in blue screen ;) - which will bring another question: "what is history and who is writing it" ?
gniewkoslawny 5 months ago
It is a little bit wrong to call old Poland as commonwealth because I think it could be understood as alliance of many countrys which was not the case. The english translation of the name of the Polish state is not correct.
Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth is only partly right - this name describes political status between Poland and Lithuanien. Since 1569 Poland and Lithuanien are one common state which was called: Respublika, Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów ( Respublika of two nations)
Prozent37 7 months ago
What title of the song of opening?
HeiligesReich2 7 months ago
Poland in middle ages had been understood only geographically, from the slavic word "pole" - "field". That area was only nominally controlled by Belarusians (Jagiello, Poniatowski), Swedish (Vasa), Hungarian (Hedviga,
Ludwig, Bator) and Saxon dynasties. At a time when Poland was not in Grand duchy of Lithuania or any other part of the state, it was just gray area of statehood. In which was a lot of factions and tribes (as in Somalia, now).
ERnieGmbH 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH Very funny! How long have you been a comedian? Why don't you give us a history lesson on Ukraine as a country now, or maybe Germany. It should be very interesting.
flyabroom 7 months ago
@flyabroom Read ERnie's post again Fly, because he's absolute correct as any Polish historian with integrity will tell you. You've slipped into the same groove of the junior student not specifying whether you mean "country" in the sense of "ukrainian people" or "voelksdeutsche" (germanic people) or the "political states" or the "territory". After all these posts, you STILL don't understand Fly, and you improperly confuse these matters to suit your self-developed mythology.
historatia 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH - ich gehe davon aus, dass du aus Deutschland schreibst daher antworte ich auf deutsch - mein englisch ist schwach. Du bist ein Witzbold bzw. ein Armläuchter. Polen mit Somalia zu vergleichen ist unverschämt. Ich will dein Land nicht beleidigen, weil es viel gibt was unsere beide Länder verbindet aber Ukraine gibt es als einen Staat erst seit 1991. Polen ist dagegen 1000 Jahre alt. Ukraina - bedeutet Grenzgebiet auf Altslavisch - war immer nur ein Teil von Lithauen Polen oder Russland
Prozent37 7 months ago
@Prozent37 Von mir kannst du die Antwort auf Deutsch oder Aegnlisch haben. Wenn du es glaubst das weil in Altslavisch der Name Ukraina Grenzgebiet meinte das es keinen 'Staat' gab dann beleidigst du alle Ukrainische Voelker fuer die letzten 1000 Jahre. Erstens gab es Kievan Rus als Staat schon fruer, und zweitens die "Lithauen Polen" oder "Russland" nicht nur "ein Staat" sondern "Verbuendnisse" oft von mehreren Staaten. Da war Polen auch immer nur "ein Teil" und meint "Feld".
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia - ich will keine Ukrainer beleidigen, aber es gab wirklich keinen Ukrainischen Staat. Das ist historische Tatsache. Finde eine landkarte mit den Grenzen eines Ukrainischen Staates oder einen Ukrainischen König - es gab keinen. Ukraina war ein Gebiet, das ein Teil des litauischen Herzogtums war und später ein Teil von Polen war. Ukraina hat auch eine russische Vorgeschichte - kurze Zeit. Königreich Polen war kein Bündniss von mehreren Staaten!!!
Prozent37 7 months ago
@historatia -Mieszko war kein König. Er war ein Herzog und Polen damals kein Königreich. Du redest von Anfängen des polnischen Staates. Unter Boleslaw Hrobry 992-1025 war Polen schon unabhängig und ein Königreich. "Polen ein Teil Sachsen" - bist du bescheuert oder was? Polen haben einen sächsischen König zum polnischen König gewählt. In Polen wurden Könige gewählt und manchmal waren Ausländer auf dem Trohn.
Prozent37 7 months ago
@Prozent37 Du redest Quatsch von einem 1000 jaehrige Polen. Mieszko war naemlich ein "Vassel" von Otto I, und NICHT unabhaengich. Dan war Polen ein Teil der Anjouan Laender als die FRAU Hedwig der "Koenig" von Polen war, Napoleon usw..N Und als der Augustus auf dem Thron war war Polen doch ein Teil der Sachsen unter -- nicht war? Also hoer doch auch mit diesem "1000 Jahre Polen" Kramm. So ein "reine" poelnischer Staat wie sich das Dmowski vorgestehlt hat gab es NIEMALS in der Geschichte.
historatia 7 months ago
@Prozent37 Sondern es gab polnische Voelker die nur sehr langsam civilisiert wurden, erst by der Kirche und dann der einfuerung Deutsche Gesetze (Kulm, Magdeburg, usw., und dan Deutsche Kunst und Technik. Das passiert immer noch; aber leider zu langsam. Zu oft in der Geschichte haben die polnischen Voelker ein Fuehrertum gehabt das mit eingefuehrten militaerischen Technik versuchte andere zu Unterdrucken und "Grossmacht" zu werden. Das gelingt den Polen nie.
historatia 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH - und ob es dir gefällt oder nicht Geschichte Polens ist auch mehr oder weniger Geschichte deines Volkes.
Prozent37 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH what is your thesis? oh..Poland is inferior. unimportant,un...,un...etc,but Germany, oh...!that's it, finished /just every German daily bread/. and for this you glitter with your astonishing, shameless ignorance: Poniatowski 1732-1798 was of middle ages,WOW, and you puting him along with Jagiello 1351-1434,nice.and telling both were "Belorussians". I have great respect for our Belorussian brothers, but sorry, not for imbecilles no matter where they come from.
wladys678 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH hahahahahahhaha go to books and study u fucking shwab retard,german animal cretin.
MrThorn88 7 months ago
@ERnieGmbH u wish u little cretin
MrThorn88 6 months ago
Wow. Comments of Germans in this discussion are pitful.
When Poles talk positive about Germany - German responses are scurvy.
When Poles talk negative about Germany - German responses are scurvy too.
Patronising tone and historical ignorance is typical for this nation it seems.
Tomenable 7 months ago 2
@Tomenable That's a stupid preconception! Most germans are okay. But unfortunatly only german idiots watch this kind of videos^^
BoxOpening 6 months ago
Warum sollte man als Deutscher in Polen leben oder einwandern wollen?
TheGlas10 8 months ago
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Evry german are nazi. Without them, the world would be a better place to life.Go back to hell, you barbarians and suck your furher dick. The world will remember what have you done for evry nation.
It's funny, because of you "true" prussians - Baltic Prussians was completed exterminated!
1000razyja 8 months ago
If you commit a terrible atrocities, you always have to pay for that.
Some civilisations paid with their existance. Some paid with their culture, some paid with with their language...
You, germans, for your all animalty, cruelty, inhumanity, barbarism and all more bad things that you have done for the human race...
..you paid only with giving a few stinky ciccties to Poland
YOU GERMANS PAID NOTHING FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!!!!
badur77 8 months ago
@badur77 Why would a Pole like you parade as Irish on YouTube? Are you embarrassed to be polish?
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia youre wrong. I never said that Im Irish. I dont care of such a things like "relationship status on facebook" and any other stuff like that. I leave it for, you, Helmut. You have problems with that so you try to solve it.
I also didnt put any information about my shoe size, and I DONT CARE if youtube set some default to this. So the nex time if you find some interesting information about that just let me know...
badur77 7 months ago
@badur77 they did not give us cities.Most of this cities were founded by Poles or Polish tribes and stolen by germans.They gave us back what was ours,they destroyed them and gave back haha.They gave us nothing for what they did.Purely nothing!!!After 2 WW they got huge help from USA zionists.We got nothing and we got raperd ba soviets as add.for 50 years.And we r still here and will be forever,rich in culture,beauty.Great Poland.
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88
Polish cities inhabited to 95 % by Germans...yeah...
antiochostheos 6 months ago
@antiochostheos yeaa...germans stole those cities before and spread themselves around them like virus.
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88
Which cities? You mean some poor faming villages before German law made them become flourishing settlements...(-;
antiochostheos 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 Warshau (Ware Schau- german means inspection of the goods), Danzig (Dan Zug- german Danish-road), Krokau ( Kreuz
Gau - location with crossroads)THORN, Stettin, Kolberg, Breslau, Elk, Marienburg, Altenstein,
Swinemunde, and Graudenz etc.
the area has always been German (some even earlier baltic Prussian), it's funny when you see that most of the cities names are clearly german.
ERnieGmbH 6 months ago
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MrThorn88 6 months ago
@ERnieGmbH ahhahahahahahahhahaha u have shown ur deep stupidity,u r fucking cretin hahahahahaah.Every language has its own versions of ciies names hahahahah.London for polish is Londyn and Paris is Paryż,Munich is Monachium so it means those cities are all Polish ahahh.Germany for polish is Niemcy so it means that all germany is Polish cuz it has polish name hahah,U amazingly retarded as most of germans nazists.Warshau is german version of original Warszawa,danzing-Gdańsk,Breslau-Wrocław etc
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@ERnieGmbH Does it actually mean that all Polish people are really German? They always lived there. It is their land. My ancestors lived around what you call Danzig area for tousands of years. They were citizens of many countries, Prussia, Germany, Poland. Before these countries were even formed they were called Goths. I don't think that names of the countries should matter. It is the people that matter. They were always there, it is their land.
VictorScotland 6 months ago
@ERnieGmbH The German sounding names like Marienburg come from the invaders. It was the German Teutonic Order who were invited by the Polish king to invade the land of my ancestors. They came, opressed the natives, enforced christian religion, and invented their own names to describe the land. Barbaric. Polish kind basically used Germans tho conquare the large part of baltic coast, and later kicked them out with the help of the natives.
VictorScotland 6 months ago
Germans always repeat the Goebbels lies, this is the most ridicculous thing. They have no honor to admit, that they are responsible for the outbreak of II War in 100 per cent!
Do you hear it German dogs? YOU
ARE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE IN 100%
badur77 8 months ago
@badur77 On the contrary. Almost every german acknowledges who startet the war. Germany did. But that does not justify the ethnic cleansing of germanys east after the war. USA started war of Iraq ... If Iraq was victorious, would it be allowed to cease california and expell every US american living there? Of course not.
Jonesdude666 8 months ago
@badur77 For certain the answer is NO to the 100% crap you put up. The simple fact is that the "statesmen" of Europe, and the leaders of the United States all have a major share in the reasons by war started in 1939. Shout your nonsense as loud as you want. Nobody of any learning or intelligence will agree with you.
historatia 7 months ago
Fuck you all nazi dogs! Go back to your DEUstchlandus. we rebuilt these cities and they are our now. The destructions of Warsaw is worth more than 45 billion dolars! Pay for this!
1000razyja 8 months ago
@1000razyja If your home burns down and I expell you from that home and rebuild it ... does it belong to me then? I don't think so. In the end germany ceded those territories to poland in order to establish peace and friendship. Do appreciate that! There is no point in finger-pointing cuz every side had immense losses in WW2. We have to look to the future not backwards.
Jonesdude666 8 months ago
I just gave you the truth and the facts. Problem is that you don't like these facts. Silesians speak in Polish dialect. Every Pole can understand them perfectly, but Germans can't. So, dream on my boy.
flyabroom 9 months ago
• GDANSK. 980s - Established by Mieszko I of Poland. 997-1308: Kingdom of Poland , 1308-1454: Teutonic Order, 1454-1466: Thirteen Years' War (free), 1466-1569: Kingdom of Poland, 1569-1793: Poland, 1793-1805: Prussia, 1807-1814: free city, 1815-1871: Prussia, 1871-1918: Imperial Germany, 1918-1939: free city, 1939-1945: Nazi Germany, 1945–now: Poland.
Total: Teutons, Prussia, Germany: 367 years, Free city: 40 years, Poland: 703 years.
flyabroom 9 months ago
968 AD The ruler of Poland, Mieszko I go over to the Christian faith, and confirms the supremacy of the German Emperor. The country between the Oder and Neisse is given by Emperor Otto I, as an imperial fief of Mieszko I, the later so-called Piastenreich.
Mieszko I recognize the superiority of the German Emperor and make tribute payments to avoid a formal feud prescription.
1038 AD Bohemia conquered Silesia and transferred the bones of St. Adalbert to Prague.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 1135 AD to court day Merseburg: Duke Boleslaw III. Poland subjects by the Emperor Lothar III.
Summer 1157
Emperor Frederick I (Barbarossa) submits Duke Boleslaw IV, as it denied the army in the episode, which he is obliged as a feudal dependence on the German Emperor.
1163 AD
Silesia is to the German-minded sons Ladislaus II
Silesia is released as an independent duchy of Poland. The ethnic Germanize Silesia begins.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 1201 - 1238
Henry I of Lower Silesia Silesian founded his empire, which ranges from Leubus to the San, of the Sudeten up on the Warta River. Through his wife Hedwig von Andechs-Merano (Holy Hedwig ", later patron saint of Silesia), founder of the first Silesian nunnery in the House, he is related to the most important royal patrons of the East German settlement work. German settlement in Silesia, language and culture.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 1241 destruction of the German settlement work by the Mongols. In heroic defensive battle Duke Henry II falls on the battlefield. The Mongols destroyed in 1242 by the Wroclaw is created. 1241 - 1266
Duke Henry III. founding of Silesian towns and villages with German settlers and German law.
24. August 1335 the Treaty of Trenčín King Casimir III . of Poland renounced to Silesia "for all time" which is under the suzerainty of Bohemian Silesia regions.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 1526 King Louis of Bohemia died on Mohatsch in the fight against the Turks. Silesia came under the crown of the Catholic Habsburg. 1537 fraternization between Friedrich II of Legnica-Brzeg-Wohlau and Elector Joachim II of Brandenburg. Growing influence of the Hohenzollern in Silesia. Therefore, the Habsburg King Ferdinand I declared the inheritance contract null and void. 1740 King Frederick II, the Great marched into Silesia (three Silesian Wars). It never realy belonged to Poland
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 Sorry son. People roamed in those days, but the first known states in Silesia were the Czech (Slavic) proto-states of Greater Moravia and Bohemia. In year 966, Polish ruler Mieszko I incorporated Silesia into the Polish state. In the Middle Ages, Silesia was divided among duchies ruled by Silesian dukes of the Polish Piast dynasty. Only in 1742, parts of Silesia were seized by King Frederick the Great of Prussia. Thus, it was German for only 177 years, and Polish for 866 years!
flyabroom 9 months ago
@flyabroom This is Polish romanticism and wishful thinking. It was never Polish. Any serious historical writing except the Polish knows that. You claim and even Cologne urpolnisch what most ridiculous. Thats why in 1990 Russia wandet to give ous our holy land back.
These regions have been and will always be German manner, you polski can rebel againt the real facts how much you like it. The truth and the right is on our side.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 - Du gehörst wohl zu den Leuten, die eine Katze vor sich sehend behaupten würden es sei ein Hund und niemand könnte dir das aus dem Kopf schlagen. Du bist in deine Meinung über Polen und die polnische Geschichte so fest gefahren, dass du nicht mehr merkst wie weit du sich von historischen Tatsachen bewegst. Diese Doku zeigt wie einst die Wirklichkeit in Polen war einem Land der vielen Völker und Sprachen.
Prozent37 9 months ago
@Prozent37 Klar war es ein Land mit vielen Völkern und Sprachen, weil sie nun mal Gebiete beanspruchten die niemals wirklich zu Polen gehörten. Wenn ich mich 100 nach historischen Tatsachen bewegen täte müsste ich euch das gesamte polnische Gebiet aberkennen, da der Germanen schon immer dort lebten. Die Gebiete die ihr beansprucht, waren nun mal nur ein Lehen welches ihr von den deutschen kurzeitig bekommen hattet und dann wie ich dagelegt habe in historischen Fakten für immer drauf verzichtet.
Radagis2 9 months ago
@Radagis2 - deine Vorstellung von der polnischen Geschichte ist eine Märchenblase. Wenn man etwas behauptet solte man auch in der Lage sein das zu beweisen. Du sprichst davon, dass da immer nur Germanen lebten was überhaupt nicht der Wahrheit entspricht und nichts mit Geschichte Polens zu tun hat.
Ich nehme an es ist eine Anspielung auf die Zeit der Völkerwanderung - die Goten in Polen. Zu der Zeit gab es nur Rom und Barbaren.
Prozent37 9 months ago
@Prozent37 Das das UNSINN ist ist schell beweisbar. Lese mal TACITUS der in Romischen Zeiten davon geschrieben hat. oder Pliny der auch schon in den Zeiten darueber geschrieben hat, oder forsche mal die Archieologie. Alles zeigt das Du Unsinn schreibt um zu behaupten das es poelnische Laender waren. NICHT WAR. Lese mal die Schreibung von polnischer Professor Alexander Schenker ueber die Urheimat den Slaven, usw. Du kennst zu wenig davon und schreibst Mist.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia YOU SAID IT! "Through" Otto is the key word. He was an intermediary, a messenger, or servant to the Pope. Other than that, Mieszko was the King of Poland and Otto was the king of Germany. Soon enough their armies crossed swords in the field, because of manipulations like yours.
flyabroom 7 months ago
@Radagis2 - Als der polnische Staat entstanden war waren die Gebiete, die heutiges Polen und Teile Ostdeutschland umfassen von Slaven bewohnt. Selbstverständlich waren nicht alle Slaven Polen ganz gleich wie die Germanen, die man auch lange Zeit nicht als Deutsche bezeichnen konnte. Es gab viele Stämme, die meistens durch Kriege mehr oder weniger zu einem Volk geworden sind. Ursprünglich zur Zeit der ersten polnischen Herrscher hat Polen ähnliche Grenzen wie heute.
Prozent37 9 months ago
@Radagis2 - Später und zwar eine lange Zeit ähnelten sie den Grenzen vor 1939. Du spricht von Lehngebieten, die Polen bekam - beweise, dass es so war. Polen bekam nie irgendwelche Lehngebiete von dem Heiligen Römischen Reich Deutscher Nation. Außerdem deiner Logik folgend gehört halb Deutschland zu Italien. Städte wie Bonn, Köln wurden von den Römern gegründet und damals gab es da kein Deutschland lediglich verschiedene germanische oder keltische Stämme, die sich auch oft selbst bekämpften.
Prozent37 9 months ago
@Radagis2 - die deutschen, die in Polen hunderte Jahre lang lebten wurden nach Polen eingeladen. das Land war groß und durch viele Kriege entvölkert. Entstanden deutsche Dörfer, kamen viele Siedler aus dem Westen und das nicht nur im Mittelalter sondern auch später wegen der Einschränkungen der Religionsfreiheit im Westen. Und im 19ten Jhr wurde das Land gezielt kolonisiert - zum Beispiel Posen.
Prozent37 9 months ago
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flyabroom 9 months ago 2
@flyabroom If you follow that logic you have to get out of the United States of America. Cuz it once belonged to Indians entirely ... The process of german "Ostkolonisation" was way more peaceful compared to the colonisation of America by Europeans. So after roughly 500 years, the country now belongs to you. Same thing happenend in the former eastern territories of germany, except they were german for more than 700 years.
Jonesdude666 8 months ago
@Jonesdude666 The process of german "Ostkolonisation" was NOT always peaceful. In fact, it often caused conflicts. Teutonic wars, partitions of Poland, WWI and WWII were attempts at violent takeovers of land for German colonization. These attempts of colonization have been the major source of bloody conflicts over Poland, and in Central Europe generally.
flyabroom 8 months ago
@flyabroom Yeah I know. But they were in general more peaceful than the colonization of america. Teutonic Wars were not mainly part of Ostkolonisation but merely power struggles as they happened all the time (like the 30 years war, the 7 years war, prussian-austrian war etc), as were the partitions of poland. No germans were settled poland then and polish people have not been germanized under prussian rule. WW1 was definitely no attempt to seize land for germany. WW2 yes cuz of fucked up Hitler
Jonesdude666 8 months ago
@flyabroom You're at it again Fly. Nonsense. It was the continuous attempts by the Poles to come downriver from the upper Vistuala and upper Bug and Pregel rivers into lands occupied and settled by others that caused all the trouble. When Konrad made a deal with the Teutonic crusaders to conquer the Prussians, that was part of his attempt to take territory THAT WAS NOT POLISH. It was a war of conquest! He then couldn't pay his bill so the Pole gave the suzerainty to the knights instead!
historatia 7 months ago
@flyabroom Fly, you should watch this vid until it sinks in. Then drum out of your cement head the view that you or Poles decide what is "Poland", especially where the "state" was a "commonwealth" in which the parts decided finally to dissolve it BECAUSE the "Poles" went on "polonization" binges that attempted to destroy the settlement fabric of others, including the then adopted legal structure that everybody had agreed to. YOU just keep repeating the same blunders over and over again.
historatia 7 months ago
@flyabroom Fly, for the 100th time, it was NOT Polish land 1000 years ago. Germanic tribes lived along the Baltic coast from pre-historic times on. The Polish slavs were far upriver on the Vistual and Bug, and Pregel and the Prippet marshes, but trying to FORCE themselves on the people to the north and west. Slavs were the invaders Fly, not the other way around. You're and aggressive little people aren't you.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia - Idz sie powiesic czlowieku bo mi sie niedobrze robi jak czytam te twoje bzdury.
Prozent37 7 months ago
@Prozent37 Das is Quatsch. Eingesiedelt sind Sie. Aber du behauptest dabei das Sie "eingeladen" waren by POLNISHEN AUTHORITAET. Das ist Quatsch. Weder Pommern oder Preussen oder das Memelland war "polnisch". Sondern the Ordenstaat hat die frueheren Bevoelkerung -- die NICHT POLEN WAREN -- beobert. Danach kamen die Deutschen Siedler. Zum Beispielt Mewe (Gniew) sowie Maienburg war etabliert by Orden, und NICHT by Polen. Du redest Quatsch.
historatia 7 months ago
@Radagis2 - Dass in einer oder anderen Stadt viele Deutsche lebten bedeutet nicht, dass die Städte deutsch waren. Bis 1939 hat Polen, die richtigen historischen Grenzen - leider ohne Danzig, die selbstverständlich eine historische polnische Stadt war und ist - das ist unbestrittene Tatsache.
Prozent37 9 months ago
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flyabroom 8 months ago
@Radagis2 Mieszko was the first to offer the state as a fief to the Popes of Rome, and many European states later followed. It was a figurative donation however, for protection from attacks by other Christian sates. The Popes were nominally the owners, entitled to a symbolic annual tribute, but the Piast continued to rule. Otto acted only as an agent (intermediary) for the papacy. Poland was NEVER a fief to Germany. Your manipulations of facts are nothing more than wishful thinking.
flyabroom 8 months ago
@flyabroom You are WRONG Fly. Mieszko was a VASSAL of Otto I. Get that FACT through your head even if you wish it weren't true with this "cock 'n bull' about Otto only acting as an intermediary. OTTO was the EMPEROR, not some "agent (intermediary)". That is PURE nonsense Fly, and I think you actually KNOW that.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia Mieszko was a vassal of NOBODY. But you are a "vassal" of me! It's like a food chain, the Nazis were owned.
flyabroom 7 months ago
@flyabroom History of Poland "Threatened by German expansionism, Mieszko moves with extraordinary speed - using the structures of feudal Europe to secure his territory. Within a year or two of this first link with the German empire, he has himself accepted as a vassal of the newly crowned emperor Otto I.
historatia 7 months ago
@flyabroom (more) "In 965 Mieszko marries a Christian Czech princess. In the following year he adopts the Roman Catholic faith for himself, his family and all his people. To secure Poland's position even further, he subsequently places all his lands under the direct authority of the pope - thus providing the Poles, in principle, with the special protection of Rome." All of this THROUGH OTTO.
historatia 7 months ago
kilka lat temu przeprowadzono badania gentyczne osetyńczyków i grobów scytów, okazało się, że... Osetyńczycy nie mają nic wspólnego ze Scytami, i tym samym Sarmatami i Alanami //\\ wcześniej zaliczano ich do tych narodów ponieważ nie pasowali do niczego innego - to była teza wylansowana przez jakś amerykankę w 1956 roku... //\\ Scytowie są identyczni genetycznie z Polakami, Rosjanmi, czy Ukraińcami //\\ R1a1a występuje również i to w 80% u Ariów w Indiach (Braminii) - wyzsza kasta w Indiach
slaworesovia 10 months ago
this is so strange: germans using history to prove the territories is theirs, and poles using fiction to prove it is really theirs. the land belongs to whoever is born on it, that is his "nativity" took place there. so he is a "native". there is not other right more important than that. people who have been living and born in seilisia, eastern pomerania and brandenburg, as well as east prussia, have been poles for generations. so the land belongs to them, no matter what was there before 1945
hotboyclarence 10 months ago
jesteś idealistą... ale uważaj... dzięki takim jak Ty... Stalin budował swoje imperium :)
slaworesovia 10 months ago
Die Antwort bis "deutsche Oberschlesien" und so weiter...
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Bitte überprüfen Sie der Begriff "R1a1a". Die Leute aus der Polen besitzen R1a1a heute in zirka 65%. Die Leute aus der Deutschland besitzen R1a1a heute weniger als 20% (diese 20% ist das Germanisiert Slawen aus die Ost-Deutschland). Die Leute aus die Lausitzer Kultur besitzen ebenfalls R1a1a in den meisten. Wie ist aus dieser Vorschlag? Entschuldigen fur meine deutsch...
slaworesovia 10 months ago
@slaworesovia Deine eine Antort verstehe ich nicht da ich kein polnisch kann. Der heutige Prozentzahl R1a1a kann man nicht auf die damaligen übertragen und sowieso mit vorsicht zu genießen. Der ursprüngliche kleine Stamm der Polen wurde von den Mongolen fast vollständig ausgerottet und so holte der polnische Adel sehr viele Deutsche Siedler in die von ihnen verwalteten Gebiete. Zweitens die Germanen machten die größte Bevölkerungsgruppe aus und es sind nie alle trotz Völkerwanderung gegangen.
Radagis2 10 months ago
In 1223/1240 - Mongolen hat ganz Kiewer Rus.
In 1241 - das Hauptziel fur die Mongolen gehen auf dem Balkan
- Ungarn und Tschechien, aber nicht Polen !
Deshalb nur 1 von 3 mongolische Armee angegriffen Polen (10 000 Mongolen).
Nach dem Gewinn der Schlacht von Liegnitz 1241 durch die Mongolen,
Mongolen ging nach Mähren/Slowakei,
wo er sich mit dem Rest ihrer Kräfte aus Ukraine.
slaworesovia 10 months ago
Dann Mongolen gehen nach Mogolii von der Slowakei und der Ukraine.
Für Kiewer Rus und der Slowakei, war es sehr schwierig...
Der Verlust der Polen sind in 1241 etwas:
12 000 Zivilisten getötet,
10 000 in der Schlacht starb,
2 000 Menschen eingefangen
- auf insgesamt 24 000 Personen.
slaworesovia 10 months ago
In 1259 - Mongolien wieder angreifen Polen
Der Totalverlust - 10 000 Polen.. aber in Małopolska (nicht Schlesien)
Es ist sehr klein ... Polen je nachdem, wie zu zählen hatte 3 bis 7 Milionen Menschen...
Mongol Invasion der polnischen hatte so wichtig:
Der Schlesien war in kleine Teile aufgeteilt.
Herrscher von Schlesien nicht mehr wichtig.
slaworesovia 10 months ago
Einige von ihnen wurden mit einbezogen Deutschland.
Vereinigung der Polen in ganz war in zirka 1300 (nicht in 1241...)
In 1474-1534 und 1605-1633 - Tataren (die Arte der Mogolen) widergehen nach Polen..
aber in diesem Zeit, Polen hat 15-17 Millionen Bewohner...
und diese Ataken war in max Rzeszów/Lwów (nicht Krakau, nicht Schlesien)
Sie war für Ukraine schwierig (nicht Polen)...
slaworesovia 10 months ago
ad. Drang nach Osten...
Selbst die nazi Forscher schätzen (für Germanisierung der Polen in 1939)
von nur 20-30% der Siedlungen in Schlesien war die deutsche in XII - XV
und Małopolska max 10-15%...
In Schlesien, die Polen waren germanisiert in XVIII
- nach Siebenjährigen Krieg 1763 Schlesien in fur Preussen,
aber die Stadte war deutsche schon in XV...
slaworesovia 10 months ago
In Małopolska, die Deutsche wurde den Polen in max XV
Heute, in Polen ist etwas 8% Manner mit R1b... (R1b = deutsche Hallogruppe)
und in Deutschland ist etwas 20-25% Manner mit R1a (R1a1a = slawische Gruppe)
aber diese Menschen sind ebenfalls Slawen aus Elbe-Oder (''DDR'')
slaworesovia 10 months ago
Huete in Polen deklarieren als Deutsche max 300 000 Menschen (official 60 000). Sie alle haben polnische/deutsche Wurzeln. Volkszählung ist jetzt so vielleicht etwas ändern wird... In Deutschland ist 1,5-2,5 millionen Polen, aber nur zirka 200 000 als Nationalinderheit, aber Deutschland verleiht keine Rechte... (Macht Recht). Der Rest sind Arbeitnehmer... In Schlesien wohnen heute etwas 11,5 Millionen Menschen :)
slaworesovia 10 months ago
@slaworesovia Das ist ja auch kein Wunder, da ihr über 14 Millionen Deutsche nach dem 8.5.45 bis 1950 Zwangersvertrieben habt, das sind nicht eingerechnet welche schon vorher flohen und jene Millionen Schlesier die dem polnischen Terror von 1919-1939 empflohen sind. Was heute in der DNA aufgezeigt ist, ist nicht mehr relevant, da mittlerweile viele Khasaren und auch bei euch Polen leben, die weder mit den Germanen noch mit den Slawen verwandt sind.
Radagis2 9 months ago
shlesia and east prussia will be ever germanic area.
Radagis2 10 months ago
@Radagis2 Im silesian, and silesia never was germanic area AND NEVER BE MORE
3DSFuture 10 months ago
@3DSFuture It was and will be always germanic. Your slavic people came in the 600 century. Germanic tribes live at slesia many 1000 years before your people came from aisa to europe.
Perhaps you were born there but your people are no real Silesian, the most real sileian people were displaced persons by polnish terror since 1919 specially since 1945. Just a small minority of real silesian exist today at Silesia, It is just under polnish administration b belonged furthermore to the german empire
Radagis2 10 months ago
immer :) zobacz mapę... historia R1a1a - badania z 2010 roku - adres:
s56.radikal.ru/i151/1011/29/a77b2abf2f65.jpg
wniosek: Słowianie mieszkali przynajniej od 3 000 p. n. e na terenie Polski...
a Germanie wówczas byli bardzo daleko... od Śląska...
slaworesovia 9 months ago
ponadto Słowianie byli w Polsce przynajmniej do I w n. e.
Tacyt w dziele ''Germania'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec na wschód od Wisły, Pliniusz Starszy w dziele ''Historia naturalna'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec pomiędzy Bałtykiem a Morzem Czarnym, Ptolemeusz z Aleksandrii w dziele ''Geographia'' = Wenet = mieszkaniec Zatoki Wendyjskiej (Zatoka Gdańska) i na wschód od rzeki Wistuli (Wisły). Wenedzi = kultura przeworska.
slaworesovia 9 months ago
Natomiast GOT ( a więc Germanin) Jordanes w dziele "Getica" mówi = Słowianin (łac. Sclaveni) = Wenet :)
slaworesovia 9 months ago
this part of middle-europa has always been a part of slawish-german tribes! so we cant say exactly what belongs to which part, we just have got a new chance, to make the best of it, so brothers from poland lets try us! i am also so an half-made-european in shlesia!
6000mikesch 10 months ago
@6000mikesch The lands on east from oder belongs to slavs. And in X century many lands on west from oder was belongs to slavs. Gerrmans will never cross this river again..
3DSFuture 10 months ago
Germanic tribes lived in present polish territory centuries before slavs, due to the migration period they moved to the west and slavs pushed from the east. From the 11th century on german reimmigration started to what was largely slavic setteled, mostly called by the slavic landlords. They brought the western/middle european knwoledge of artisanry and farming in the middle age, founded cities and villages, cultivated the country, many were assimilated. They´re part of polish history and land!
GurnySlunzok 11 months ago
@GurnySlunzok you're right. when Poland and P-L Commonwealth were strong the conflicts between Poles and Germans occured quite rarely. the relations were starting to get worse when the power of P-L Commonwealth declined and Prussian Kingdom got stronger and after participation of P-L C. Many Poles have German surnames because their ancestors received Polish culture and identity and became part of Polish nation.
Lattarnik 11 months ago
@Lattarnik yeah exactly, poles are more related to germans than most of them think. Both people have been bounded together for over centuries. Well...at least we all come from Babel, right ;)
GurnySlunzok 11 months ago
@GurnySlunzok but don't forget the inhabitans of former DDR are mostly Slavic descent. many of them prefer not to remember this fact. :-)
btw, there are not "clean" races in Europe. we all are mixed. even in Iceland archeologists found evidences of settlements of Slavs. :-)
Lattarnik 11 months ago
@GurnySlunzok and more germans is related to poles that they've ever can think...it's all in dna and dna says that modern germans are truly "germans" in less than 30%,most of them are celts actually,semic people and....slavians:)
...in compare even now-poles are the most close people as nation in all europe(more than 60% have the same r1a1 type) so who is more related to who?:)
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uioe 10 months ago
-->and you should also remember that even if some poles have german surnames,it doesn't mean anything...surely their families could go to poland from some german speaking countries-why not:) but while occupation(1795-..),people chose german surname's(the same like jewish people in germany) too..
uioe 10 months ago
@GurnySlunzok
and who lived on the territories of nowadays germany before germans??
maybe dinosaurs?? DINOSAURS ARE PART OF GERMAN HISTORY AND THEIR LAND!!!!
YouKnowWhatYouAre 11 months ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre gurnyslunzok came directly from ancient "country" silesia which have directly roots in far far more ancient kingdom of atlantis people:)
so it's quite similar with germans who may!!! in the same style,lived on these territories even together with dinosaurs:P
dzieciaczki bawia sie w folkdojczow...dziadziu pewnie osiadl na ziemiach odzyskanych:)ale wnuczkowi oslowi zachciewa sie byc "slunzokiem"(a takim ciezko pomyslec o czyms wiecej niz zarciu a co dopiero o slasku poczytac):)
uioe 10 months ago
@GurnySlunzok hehe i can understand that you wanna see them everywhere as guy from that part of silesia;)-it's quite trendy now i know:) but it's only partially true( it was very popular trend in germany before first world war when they wanted place roots of slavians in some forrest's or so):)
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uioe 10 months ago
->name's like berlin(slavian name) and examples like fact that for romans word "german" meant "guy from north"==all tribes who attacked them by ages from north or unclear roots of tribes like allan's(for romans they were germans) or even wandals(for sure we know that slavians tribes were there too but not who were wandals) who took rome and create their own country in modern marocco:) etc etc
uioe 10 months ago
@GurnySlunzok your a fucking retard thats your only excuse why you scwabs invaded hahah and were defreated by the poles, it took 3 countries take over 2 hahaha you never get rid of Poland
lopez5678 8 months ago
@GurnySlunzok not whole territory of present Poland was settled by german tribes>west side of vistula was land of Polish tribes,they are part of our history and we are part of german history,our cultures were teaching from each other,it's not that german were teaching us hahahah in middle ages Poland was as strong as germany,u wanna show that germans are better race which had shown others how to farm and what is art hahah its fucking lie u Nazi narrow minded ass
MrThorn88 8 months ago
@MrThorn88 So how about TODAY. Poland builds buses with US engines and German parts assembled by Polish workers (Posen). The largest potatoe farms in Poland have shifted to German machinery to become competitive, etc etc. Why is that necessary when the Poles claim to have always done everything better themselves. If your miltiary was as spectacular in WWII, as today's Polish mythilogists claim, how come Poland couldn't turn back Hitler's assaults?
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia No country in the world could turn back hitler's assault,France lost in 7 days.Second thing is germas are primitive retarded motherfuckers,shallow and void of feelings animals.
MrThorn88 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 - z tym gosciem historatia nie da sie rozsadnie rozmawiac - on jest jakis nienormalny. Nie wiem jakie on ksiazki czytal :/
Ten koles jest z pochodzenia niemcem - chyba sie naczytal tych drukow sprzed 1945 z wrona na okladce. Naszczescie tacy niemcy jak on to wyjatki - jest ich wiecej tu na YouTube niz w rzeczywistosci na ulicach - wiem z doswiadczenia.
Prozent37 7 months ago
@Prozent37 wiem ale to wstyd dla Niemców takie wymoczki:)a słysząc takie bzdety i wiedząc ze setki młodych ludzi z całego swiata może uznać ze on ma racje jest po trosze...wkurwiające:)
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 Clearly you know very little about the status of military. Under General Heinrici the able soldiers and lower ranks of the Poles, well armed with excellent French tanks, and superb Schneider 105 mm artillery and armour piercing shells COULD have stopped the Wehrmacht assault. What does that make the total Polish military beaten by the Germans who are so are "primitive retarded motherfuckers"???? The Poles had VERY poor military leadership in Rydz-Smigly and Josef Beck.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia we didn't have better army than France and they lost within 7 days.German army was huge number of equipment,german animal soldiers and was modern cuz germans always have been expansionists,aggresive,unable to feel monkeys who talk barking,u shown that ur, intelligence is only about killing u have shown it well.retarded by unabilty to feel nation.U don't deserve living.
MrThorn88 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 That's absolute nonsense in FACT. The French has 5.2 million men trained and ready to go, MORE than the Germans. During the Polish campaign the Germans only had 12 Divisions on the Western Front against that enormous French Army. The French ALONE had MORE ARMOUR and MORE Artillery than the Germans. The French defeat had NOTHING do with the SIZE of the German force. In fact the Poles using exceptional artillery took out a full 30% of the armour that the Wehrmacht started with.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia what is nonsense that u lost within 7 days??Iknow that france had bigger army but german army was more modern and they had aggresive worked out strategy,europe wasn't prepare for that aggresive animal attack
MrThorn88 7 months ago
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Inv1nc1b1e 2 hours ago
@MrThorn88 The Poles had BETTER tanks than the Germans (the French ones). The Schneider 105 pipes that the Germans captured from Poland lasted them for the entire war, etc etc. With 65 years of propaganda, the Wehrmacht has been extolled into Ubermensch status that is not factual. . The main German advantage was the incompetence of Polish and French military strategists and leadership and their own very skilled ones.
was the strategic incompetence of the top Polish military strategies
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 The Poles lost so rapidly because, in completely unwarranted anticipation of the French and British assistance, the Poles moved their forces in March 1939 into a "counter-offensive" position and Rydz-Smigly and Beck actually BELIEVED that they would be in an attack on a rapidly retreating Wehrmacht that had left only 12 Divisions that would crumble under a French attack. The French lost so rapidly because they organized the the Brit/French force to fight the Wehrmacht in Belgium.
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 They did this because they did not want the war to be fought in France after the damage of WWI. That allowed the mobile forces of the Wehrmacht to make a brilliant counter-stroke and push the Brits off the Continent while flanking the Maginot Line that held out for a few more weeks. To stop a norther front the Germans occupied Norway exactly ONE DAY before the British were to land there. Brilliant stroke, even though the Germans has a a navy about 8% the size of the British.
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 The reason that the propaganda of the extraordinary size and quality of the German Werhmacht is allowed to stand is that none of the allied nations want to admit the extraordinary incompetence of their military leadership. On its face it is simply NOT true that the Germans EVER had the resources to consider a strike at Russia. That was necessitated when it became clear that Stalin was massing for an attack to start when the Germans had been tuckered out in the war with Britain/France
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 I am constantly amazed to read posts like yours. Do you REALLY believe that Hitler, without a decent wide track tank for Russian conditions, nor winter clothing for the Wehrmacht actually intended in 1939 to take on the Soviet Union? Do you really believe that the Germans were THAT dumb? You have a propagandized view. If you are a Pole, then study Monte Cassino. Compare the leadership of the small German forces to the clowns that led the US 2nd and Brits 8th Armies.
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 You should realize that even in May 1941 the Wehrmacht was still NOT outfitted and equipped for a war with the Soviet military. If Hitler was taking on the world, then why didn't they design suitable tanks and winter warfare gear in 1937 and 1938. Don't be so gullible to what the propaganda drums tell you. Learn a few basic facts and look at the strategic issues involved.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia there's no matter who had batter army,europe wasn't prepare for that aggresive and animal attack.Poland wasn't preapare strategicaly as europe was not as well.As we know sometimes agressive eratic dogs are unpredicable.Germans are animals not humans.
MrThorn88 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 Well then, the matters of reliance on factual information and some sense of perspective and truth doesn't enter your consciousness, so I would have to conclude the YOU are also an animal as you are clearly incapable of human interactiion and thought. arf arf arf growl.
historatia 7 months ago
@MrThorn88 germans are animals not humans? welcome to the 21st century! the nazis are dead and germany has become a democratic country.
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@BoxOpening so read what shit they are writing in here,Nazi propaganda rules their minds and they infect youngsters from all over the world with lies.What about Erica Steinbah?she is spreading it in German parlament and she is a leader of big party.Also i know how some of u treat Poles,like shit,some of u still think u r better kind.
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 maybe that is right. But as I said most germans are nice and tolerant. Germany is very multicultural! Dont listen to stupid german people which post nazi commentarys. They are all idiots.
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@BoxOpening I know German guys and I know they are very ok:)I only wanted to piss off those idiots:))Good Day:)
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 okay good^^ but please dont say something like "germans are animals" because then they get insulted (like I). I hope that all these f****** naz*s stop posting stupid commentarys! In a year I will move to Poland..... Hope it will be nice!!!
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@BoxOpening Ok Ok:))))So don't feel insulted:)I wanted to piss those idiots off by insulting their nation cuz it hurts.I wanted them to feel this way:)I don't really think u r animals:) Also biologicaly we are all animals;))) Why are You moving to Poland???
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 I finished school and want to live and work in another country for 1 year, before I study. And I decided to come to Poland^^ The cultur is interesting....ând the most people I met were kind!
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@BoxOpening Nice,what work u will look for?and what city u chose?
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 I dont really know^^ I think Warszawa, Szczecin, Gdansk or Krakow.....
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@BoxOpening Szczecin is not nice.Get Gdańsk,Warszawa or Krakow.I recommend Gdańsk or Krakow,also Wrocław:)About job it can be hard cuz it's not easy to get job in Poland:))Are u learning polish?
MrThorn88 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 not yet! I will start in some monthes.
BoxOpening 6 months ago
@MrThorn88 You make a serious mistake in assuming that all slavic tribes were POLISH. NONSENSE. Lusations, Kasubians and Slovinci were/are slavic, but ONLY Poles think of them as "polish". My Kasubian/Lusatian grandparents would have boxed the ears of anyone that claimed that either of their peoples were Polish. That is an IGNORANT that polish attitude.
historatia 7 months ago
@historatia I don't assume that but Lusatians and kasubians were always part of Polish state,they were speaking both their dialect and polish language.If ur grandparents didn't feel Polish means they were idiots.They were Kasubians and Polish as well.and europeans and earthians as well.and wtf Slovinci has to do with that?Many slavic tribes speaking the same language decided to unify under Polish crown and become one nation just like othet countries did.Wales or Scotish ppl are not British?think
MrThorn88 7 months ago
@GurnySlunzok germans were always minority and they were fuonding cities but only few percent of all cities ,they were minority so they had influence on us but minor.we built our country,we have rich art and heritage,different from german.and during 2 ww u destroyed everything what u brougt (your few percent)in and 80 percent of what we built bravo friends hahah
MrThorn88 8 months ago
NAZI VÖGEL erzählen MAL WIEDER SCHEIßE !! deutsche sind abgehauen als sie ahnten dass die odtfront gegen die russen+paar polnischer partizanen verloren geht ! dann sind sie geflüchtet aus angst dass die russen mit ihnen das machen was die deutschen in ganz EU taten es gibt dazu neue reportagen stalingrad lief auf phönix dann wurden deutsche nicht vertrieben nur die peinlichen deutschen hofften das wenn sie ihre propaganda augfrecht erhalt das sie ihre häuser zurückbekommenALSO ALLES LÜGE !
OoiKiLLyouNOWoO 11 months ago
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@allerich1 Exactly. Thank you for pointing our Polish chauvinistic propaganda at YouTube. Even YT-administrators from Poland are blocking critics of Polish imperialism from Silesia. It is childish, but Polish reality. The Poles are very insecure and very uncertain about their past and about their future. They seem to need anti-German myths and lies.
IustitiaPax 1 year ago
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allerich1 1 year ago