Lol fire sucks, um lvl 71 i 1 hit people in pvp with a 10.5k arcane bast and a barrage that will do the finishing blow! :D fire is a run and guy spec as of cata.
It's video from 16th jan 08 so no, not LK. He has Dragon Breath s I suppose some deep fire with few talents in arcane and 3/3 in Elemental precision in frost like 10/48/3
In a long fight it was more effective to hold on using mana emeralds and mana pots until you went straight to 40% mana and burned evocation. Burning your evoke as soon as you can could allow for multiple uses in a raid encounter.
I'll be nicer when they get smarter. So far all of the posts I've responded to have been people asking stupid questions or pointing out stupid things. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
@Firezeemissiles it's not that they're being stupid, some people just don't know as much information on certain things as you do, you may have played the game longer than them, don't just be a douche to everyone because they're not as genius as you are almighty one
@FURRYDulaman They don't know information on certain things? Like how to read the name of the song posted at the end of the movie, or the date showing this was posted 2 years ago? That's called being stupid. I don't know why you defend people that clearly need to a lesson in basic reading skills.
Maybe because Mage armor is a huge DPS killer, Molten armor is the way to go if you want max DPS from your Mage. Glypth of Molten Armor provides an additional 2% crit which means in total 5% crit but what do I know? I only pull 4500dps on Patchwerk.
well, why do you use ure mana emerald on 2.5k, much better to use it when u have like 5-7k or somethin because then u have the cooldown much faster next time u use it and u will never go oom, (with pots too ofc) but when ure out of emeralnd u create new ones.
with the new patch out making pots a one time use mana conversation has gotten hard luckily for mages though our mana gems are not effected by this and we can use them repeadetly with the exception of a 2 minute delay the best way i have found for keeping mana up is popping 1 gem at about roguhly 75% then as soon as the cooldown is up if you are not already oom pop it again then when you are oom use evocate then pop another mana gem when its up at this point conjure more and pop a mana pot
if you by any chance have a frost mage with winter's chill. imp scorch will be useless as the fire mage has increased dps without using scorch and the frostmage can use any frost spell for winters chill..however the basic mage rotation still remains 5scorch debuffs 8fireballs scorch rince and repeat
thanks for the tips and stuff. on my mage i have a pretty sweet setup, just 2 of those Xi'ri's gifts, basicly. same effect, anyways, its nice because you can chain them for the most part. but just wandering, why would u map cone of cold and dragons breath? the CD isnt worth it and the effect is better on dragons breath.
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whats ur chars name,i want to do an armory to see what gear you have to hit so low (no offense). and get new spec for icy veins. plus raid buff will get you much more mana regen..also being smart to use mage armor...plus for your gear and more than likely raid experience, it would be smart to go 40/0/21 arc icy veins
with that you don't really NEED mage armor imo molten becomes more important
but i guess it depends on the length of the fight
but if your a good mage you can conserve mana without having mage armor
and actually it wouldn't be smart to go 40/0/21 because that spec only compares to fire if you have 2 pieces of t5 and a good enough mana pool to sustain the spamming of arcane blast
Thought it'd be good to add as well to try and save your cooldowns until the boss is at and below the 20% mark for when Molten Fury kicks in (assuming your Fire spec of course), the added 20% extra damage can lead to alot of DPS when trinketed with combustion and icy veins if you're the 2/48/11 spec
Except in instances that aren't Kara, bosses have upwards of 5 million HP. Your cooldowns are up more than once during a fight. Twidling your thumbs until 20% just to do a bit more damage is a waste of time.
Plus, this video was posted 4 months ago, a lot has changed since then, I don't know why people feel the need to continue commenting here.
Mages dint need mana regen. We have our gems and evocate and mana pots that we can use to keep our mana up. Its not worth the lost talent point to take the regen when we have all these thing to keep our mana up. If shit really goes south go invisible and drink but if your doing that things are not going as they should...great vid.
Mages DO need mana regen m8 taking illidans encounter as an example,illidans fight lasts almost 20 minutes and with molten armor would be imposible to keep ur mana up even if u have the best rotation with ur pots,emeralds and evo.I dont disagree with u i will use molten armor in a fight like shade of akama which is a 4minutes fight,u dont need to retalent to have mana regen u just use mage armor.And invisibility doesnt work on boss fights m8 so u cant go out of combat.Montoya Frostmane EU
Mages DO need mana regen m8 taking illidans encounter as an example,illidans fight lasts almost 20 minutes and with molten armor would be imposible to keep ur mana up even if u have the best rotation with ur pots,emeralds and evo.I dont disagree with u i will use molten armor in a fight like shade of akama which is a 4minutes fight,u dont need to retalent to have mana regen u just use mage armor.And invisibility doesnt work on boss fights m8 so u cant go out of combat.Montoya Frostmane EU
rly nice vid guide overall.I just wanted to mension that molten armor isnt rly usefull for "mana intensive fight" i rather go for mage armor wich allows 30% of ur mana regen while in combat and with a spriest in ur grp its almost imposible to go oom. Montoya Frostmane EU
With the changes to spirit in 2.4 that might be true, but the crit bonus from MoA would probably give more mana regen via Elemental Mastery. Also, as a DPS role you're obviously going to want to do what improves your DPS.
This is purely speculation though, I've never read up on the benefit of Mage Armor vs Molten Armor in extended fight situations.
It really amazes me how so many people dont know how to play still...not you of course this was a great vid but the guy who asked "why aren't you using pyro?" Yeah your rite, are you fucking retarded?
without fireblast spamming everytime CD is gone your going to gett outdpsed by the locks for sure..Spamming firefall alone is nothing special you must combine it with fireblast!
ok ... in many situations it depends on boss how u will dps it but nvm , u showed basic mage dps , gj . Just one question : why arent u using pyro? i think it helps ur threat cuz it has long cast time and its good to have one dot more on ur target .
WHATS THAT ADDON!? I MEAN YOUR UI ADDON
MrRampageJohnson 7 months ago
@MrRampageJohnson
I want to say Xperl, but it was a seriously long time ago, so I have no idea if that's correct.
Firezeemissiles 7 months ago
WHATS THAT ADDON!?
MrRampageJohnson 7 months ago
@ every1 whoo gives a flying rats ass wot the name of the song its CRAP!!!!
nikkademus1 11 months ago
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Lol fire sucks, um lvl 71 i 1 hit people in pvp with a 10.5k arcane bast and a barrage that will do the finishing blow! :D fire is a run and guy spec as of cata.
manmat12345 1 year ago
Does this still apply to the modern mage?
zacharyriddle 1 year ago
i loved FFB spec and good comentary if only i found this vid about two years ago or so
dancefreak434 1 year ago
lol DR. Boom is a bitch to take down if u are melee
evilskills 2 years ago
Not if you have the quest to kill him. Then u get a bomb that u can throw at him that deal about 20k.
PeckaNecka 2 years ago
yeah but u can only have that quest once? and i have done it already?
evilskills 2 years ago
True, but why do u want to killl him again tbh?
PeckaNecka 2 years ago
i dont know
evilskills 2 years ago
DMG per sec
oding9393 2 years ago
wats dps stand for
valshera 2 years ago
Dick Penis Sex.
Shakkinai 2 years ago 13
nice vid
fetaost11 2 years ago
very detailed and well done
ninjatromboneplaya 2 years ago
wats the song
ilove423 2 years ago
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Blizzardcatacylsm 2 years ago
Very nice !
Nyriex 2 years ago
Nice!
1Tarz 2 years ago
What kind of spec is this? Fire till combustion and arcane concentration... Can you explain this a bit? with like 10/31/30 or something...
ekehoo93 2 years ago
It's video from 16th jan 08 so no, not LK. He has Dragon Breath s I suppose some deep fire with few talents in arcane and 3/3 in Elemental precision in frost like 10/48/3
Alegnem 2 years ago
ok, thx
ekehoo93 2 years ago
In a long fight it was more effective to hold on using mana emeralds and mana pots until you went straight to 40% mana and burned evocation. Burning your evoke as soon as you can could allow for multiple uses in a raid encounter.
TheIrishEnigma 2 years ago
Hey man ... WHATS THE NAME OF THAT SONG
wolechair 2 years ago
Have you tried watching the video to the end, where it clearly lists the music?
Firezeemissiles 2 years ago
@Firezeemissiles wow man you're a douchebag, you just give negative feedback to everyone stupid prick
FURRYDulaman 1 year ago
@FURRYDulaman
I'll be nicer when they get smarter. So far all of the posts I've responded to have been people asking stupid questions or pointing out stupid things. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
Firezeemissiles 1 year ago
@Firezeemissiles it's not that they're being stupid, some people just don't know as much information on certain things as you do, you may have played the game longer than them, don't just be a douche to everyone because they're not as genius as you are almighty one
FURRYDulaman 1 year ago
@FURRYDulaman They don't know information on certain things? Like how to read the name of the song posted at the end of the movie, or the date showing this was posted 2 years ago? That's called being stupid. I don't know why you defend people that clearly need to a lesson in basic reading skills.
Firezeemissiles 1 year ago
@Firezeemissiles mabye your video sucked so they didn't want to watch it all the way to the end? :D
FURRYDulaman 1 year ago
@FURRYDulaman Probably.
Firezeemissiles 1 year ago
@wolechair yeah wat is the name of this song?
Hero4131993 1 year ago
@Hero4131993 Beatdrop - When last alone ( first song ) and second song is Beatdrop - Epiphany
wolechair 1 year ago
Still I got an opinion about the mage armor isnt it smart to pop that when your oom and waiting on mana?
Got a 71 mage atm and never raided tbc so that why im asking.
Mongiloyd 2 years ago
never use mage armour it sucks for a mage use mana gems pots etc...
kride456 2 years ago
can only use one mana pot per battle in raid right?? i tried zul'gurub last night and it was on cooldown till after battle......
midfieldsk8er 2 years ago
3min CD + with all valors and glyphs my mana gem gives my 80 mage 5,9k-6,3k mana so its imbah
kride456 2 years ago
how does 50% regen suck? tard
thematrixman03 2 years ago
any1 nes any1 good builds?
egi94 3 years ago
dude why dint't use Mage armor ?? That buff allows 30% mana to regenerate
WoW00KiLoBiT 3 years ago
Maybe because Mage armor is a huge DPS killer, Molten armor is the way to go if you want max DPS from your Mage. Glypth of Molten Armor provides an additional 2% crit which means in total 5% crit but what do I know? I only pull 4500dps on Patchwerk.
RKOvRKO 3 years ago 2
i do 5200 dps on patchwerk wich is awsome :D
nightcrow90 2 years ago
the guy sed if ur oom nd u wanna get it back up fast use mage armour its nt that bad
thematrixman03 2 years ago
totaly unrequired.
Cyberhunter07 3 years ago 3
well, why do you use ure mana emerald on 2.5k, much better to use it when u have like 5-7k or somethin because then u have the cooldown much faster next time u use it and u will never go oom, (with pots too ofc) but when ure out of emeralnd u create new ones.
heettan 3 years ago
He means when you have 2.5k missing
2muchtouch 3 years ago
:o, allright. sry.
heettan 3 years ago
WTB names of songs!
veniorestes 3 years ago 2
First song, pl0x :D?
Olautligger 3 years ago 2
with the new patch out making pots a one time use mana conversation has gotten hard luckily for mages though our mana gems are not effected by this and we can use them repeadetly with the exception of a 2 minute delay the best way i have found for keeping mana up is popping 1 gem at about roguhly 75% then as soon as the cooldown is up if you are not already oom pop it again then when you are oom use evocate then pop another mana gem when its up at this point conjure more and pop a mana pot
killthezombiesbyshoe 3 years ago
as far as dps goes your rotation is pure gold gg
killthezombiesbyshoe 3 years ago
if you by any chance have a frost mage with winter's chill. imp scorch will be useless as the fire mage has increased dps without using scorch and the frostmage can use any frost spell for winters chill..however the basic mage rotation still remains 5scorch debuffs 8fireballs scorch rince and repeat
Rayze1337 3 years ago
you can also youse lower rank spells to save mana
littleandbigman45 3 years ago
I think it's a great video to show mages the basic ideas of raid nuking, the gear has nothing to do with that. Thanks for sharing and showing people.
Dargolith 3 years ago
ok ur gear sucks, but i bet u can be a great raid buddy
blackabbys666 3 years ago
Seriously? Look at when this video was posted. I should just take this down so people stop commenting on it.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
thanks man this is exactly what i was looking for
darklight1617 3 years ago
still nice crits (For that gear) And really useful mage tips cheer mate! :)
novittupsiit 3 years ago 2
w000t nice!!
whats that song pls?!
kilroy117 3 years ago 2
thanks for the tips and stuff. on my mage i have a pretty sweet setup, just 2 of those Xi'ri's gifts, basicly. same effect, anyways, its nice because you can chain them for the most part. but just wandering, why would u map cone of cold and dragons breath? the CD isnt worth it and the effect is better on dragons breath.
AustinDT 3 years ago
sucky hits lol!
Mastermoviez 3 years ago
No shit Sherlock, this video was posted 7 months ago. Good work on being a tool.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
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whats ur chars name,i want to do an armory to see what gear you have to hit so low (no offense). and get new spec for icy veins. plus raid buff will get you much more mana regen..also being smart to use mage armor...plus for your gear and more than likely raid experience, it would be smart to go 40/0/21 arc icy veins
s2MaGiK 3 years ago
i love the spec 2/48/11
with that you don't really NEED mage armor imo molten becomes more important
but i guess it depends on the length of the fight
but if your a good mage you can conserve mana without having mage armor
and actually it wouldn't be smart to go 40/0/21 because that spec only compares to fire if you have 2 pieces of t5 and a good enough mana pool to sustain the spamming of arcane blast
slipknotmaggot1234 3 years ago
explain how to conserve mana on a tank and spank fight as 2/48/11 without mage armor.
saturdaysavior 3 years ago 2
lolz thats why i said it depends on the length of the fight
but your raid leader should put you in a party with a shadow priest or a shaman for mana
and plus you have mana pots and mana emeralds
plus evocation =D
slipknotmaggot1234 3 years ago 3
Anyone know where I can download those songs?
Vice07 3 years ago
Hey whaty addons are you using?
Pointpwn 3 years ago
Eh...never mind had to watch till the end
pap3rbag 3 years ago
what song is this?!?!?!
pap3rbag 3 years ago
nice video dude keep it up :)
laggingshit 3 years ago 2
naja, ein anfänger der sich für toll hält, ich denke jeder hatte mal diese phase ^^
MKmeister90 3 years ago
Hey whats your characters name? and NICE CRITS!!!!
redmjc67 3 years ago
it says it @ 8:20.....
maxergud 3 years ago
i find a 5 fireball 3 scorch rota works well for btoh clear casting and crits :) plus u keep scorch up ^^
roxorsyoursoxors 3 years ago
Thought it'd be good to add as well to try and save your cooldowns until the boss is at and below the 20% mark for when Molten Fury kicks in (assuming your Fire spec of course), the added 20% extra damage can lead to alot of DPS when trinketed with combustion and icy veins if you're the 2/48/11 spec
xChrisehx 3 years ago
Except in instances that aren't Kara, bosses have upwards of 5 million HP. Your cooldowns are up more than once during a fight. Twidling your thumbs until 20% just to do a bit more damage is a waste of time.
Plus, this video was posted 4 months ago, a lot has changed since then, I don't know why people feel the need to continue commenting here.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
Only Illidan has 6.3 millione HP the highest boss HP in kara is 1.3 millione
tmshcke 3 years ago
ur all tards, its deep fire, with the 3 in frost for the 3% reduction, and u spam scorch until u get clearcasting for a fireball, gg
bangbanged 3 years ago
Nice video, has some good tips. And, to the person below me, no, deep frost does not do more dps than deep fire on the raiding scene.
Bechillbro48 3 years ago
rofl the real dps is frost with pet ... ownage
nice vid but as it was said below me if u cant play a 3 button class give up :)
Scorpix666 3 years ago
this is horrible....i mean...it made me think so less of all mages....this is...wow i'm speachless L2 GET MORE DPS :D
Murmage12 3 years ago
nice vid ......5 stars :D
NaraxManX 3 years ago
Good job.
Although, people who dont know how to play a mage by the time there at least level 40 is obviously retarded with down syndrome irl.
nightelfman11 3 years ago
Mages dint need mana regen. We have our gems and evocate and mana pots that we can use to keep our mana up. Its not worth the lost talent point to take the regen when we have all these thing to keep our mana up. If shit really goes south go invisible and drink but if your doing that things are not going as they should...great vid.
Ingles0717 3 years ago
Mages DO need mana regen m8 taking illidans encounter as an example,illidans fight lasts almost 20 minutes and with molten armor would be imposible to keep ur mana up even if u have the best rotation with ur pots,emeralds and evo.I dont disagree with u i will use molten armor in a fight like shade of akama which is a 4minutes fight,u dont need to retalent to have mana regen u just use mage armor.And invisibility doesnt work on boss fights m8 so u cant go out of combat.Montoya Frostmane EU
montoya4ever 3 years ago 2
Mages DO need mana regen m8 taking illidans encounter as an example,illidans fight lasts almost 20 minutes and with molten armor would be imposible to keep ur mana up even if u have the best rotation with ur pots,emeralds and evo.I dont disagree with u i will use molten armor in a fight like shade of akama which is a 4minutes fight,u dont need to retalent to have mana regen u just use mage armor.And invisibility doesnt work on boss fights m8 so u cant go out of combat.Montoya Frostmane EU
montoya4ever 3 years ago
ok u dont go out of combat with invisibility in a boss fight. but u DO lose alot of threat which was his point.
brlaughlin 3 years ago 2
ahh sorry about the comment on invisibility.. just noticed that u were talking to the other dude. thought u were talkin bout wat he said on the vid.
brlaughlin 3 years ago
rly nice vid guide overall.I just wanted to mension that molten armor isnt rly usefull for "mana intensive fight" i rather go for mage armor wich allows 30% of ur mana regen while in combat and with a spriest in ur grp its almost imposible to go oom. Montoya Frostmane EU
montoya4ever 3 years ago
With the changes to spirit in 2.4 that might be true, but the crit bonus from MoA would probably give more mana regen via Elemental Mastery. Also, as a DPS role you're obviously going to want to do what improves your DPS.
This is purely speculation though, I've never read up on the benefit of Mage Armor vs Molten Armor in extended fight situations.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
"the crit bonus from MoA would probably give more mana regen via Elemental Mastery"...no. nowhere near as much as mage armor.
bumfightsftw 3 years ago
It really amazes me how so many people dont know how to play still...not you of course this was a great vid but the guy who asked "why aren't you using pyro?" Yeah your rite, are you fucking retarded?
oceanman113 3 years ago
crap gear, but ok guide =)
xdxdxdlloll 3 years ago
Any why dont you use fireblast? :S
without fireblast spamming everytime CD is gone your going to gett outdpsed by the locks for sure..Spamming firefall alone is nothing special you must combine it with fireblast!
zibanad 3 years ago
Why would I want to use more mana to do less damage? This isn't PvP, there is no need for "burst" damage.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
ok ... in many situations it depends on boss how u will dps it but nvm , u showed basic mage dps , gj . Just one question : why arent u using pyro? i think it helps ur threat cuz it has long cast time and its good to have one dot more on ur target .
steva88car 3 years ago
Because using pyroblast in a DPS rotation would be absolutely retarded.
Firezeemissiles 3 years ago
pyro is only used once in a raid if at all...its a wind up spell...times better spent on stacking scorch imo
21197301668223 3 years ago
I'd like to correct a mistake you made in the video. This IS the only right way to do it.
Good job.
GODVERZAAD 3 years ago
I thought on how you covered the mana saving was prolly the most unknown to players, which in turn would help them a lot.
Good Video
Rydog5 4 years ago
I knew all the points you covered, but very well done mate. Good video.
Bechillbro48 4 years ago
nice
zaka123zaka 4 years ago