Rear facing vs forward facing position in the car

[tom31839]

Poor kid...If I have kids ill always put right stuff

[MrOzozah]

والله ان عندنا رؤسااء بقر معى إحترامي لهم

المقطع مقارنه بين كراسي الأطفال الموجهه الى مقدمه السياره و النوع الثاني الموجهه لمؤخره السياره والافضليه تكون للموجهه لمؤخرره السياره

وعندنا كلام وخرابيط عن اهميه الكرسي طيب وضحوا فكره المقطع الى متى

وبعدين بلاش يوتيوب مو تقولون ممنوع استخداامه ؟؟؟؟ حيه لرؤساء ارامكو

يالبى قلوب الامريكان متى بس يرجعون ويفكون من العنصريه والرؤساء اللي بجنبها مايفهمون شي

[whitekeith100]

Love this!!!! I love the dramatic pauses with details of regions affected.

[hmt90a]

While I know this is a computer generated animation, it doesn't help that the harness straps are shown extremely loose! They should be as tight as they can be. Also, the car seat shouldn't move more than 1" in any direction if it's belted in properly.

[BankySkitch]

@hmt90a The straps should NOT be "as tight as they can be". Putting them "as tight as they can be" would suffocate the child. They need to be tight enough that you cannot pinch the strap between your finger and thumb. There are many videos demonstrating how to tell if the straps are properly tightened.

[hmt90a]

@BankySkitch Ok, so the straps should be "be tight enough that you cannot pinch the strap between your finger and thumb." Clearly the ones in the video are not.

[BankySkitch]

@hmt90a You can't possibly know that. The straps of a safety belt or child safety seat are designed to stretch in a crash, allowing more "ride down time".

[indycoltschick8977]

And for this reason they need to go back to overhead shield carseats, harness does not provide enough protection..

[ariososweet]

@indycoltschick8977 no o its the opposite, over head shield seat do not provide enough protection. do some research!

[erin23kate]

The USA (via the AAP) *finally* updated its recommendation to rear-face children to at least 2 years old. This is an excellent reason to rear-face well beyond what we're used to doing. Thank you, Norway!

[animlnitr8]

rear facing til 4 years old? where is the kid supposed to put his/her legs and feet? do they make car seats that will fit on a vehicle's seat and support the child's legs and feet? my son is 11 months old and he sits rear-facing, but is kicking the back of the seat that his car seat is on. unless i find a car seat that will support his legs instead of crushing them into the back of the seat, i'm not sure how much longer he will be able to sit rear-facing...

[catielove00]

@animlnitr8 His legs don't really NEED support, though. They're fine to be froggy-style in his seat, or spread out and propped up on the seat back that's in front of him. If you're worried about your car- remove his shoes when you get in, put them back on when it's time to get out.

[animlnitr8]

@catielove00 not worried about the car...was just wondering where his legs and feet were going to go and how the position of his legs would also affect him during an impact....like, could the position of his legs cause injury to his head? i mean, could his head slam into his knees? lots of questions. i'll have to look into it further. thanks.

[catielove00]

@animlnitr8 I think it's pretty unlikely that his legs would hit his head and cause serious damage. (Maybe a black eye or broken nose, but not paralysis or death.) As for injury to his legs- it wouldn't be as severe as what could happen to his neck/spine and skull if he were front facing. He might potentially break his leg, or dislocate a hip, but in the grand scheme, that's better than a broken neck, yaknow?

[BankySkitch]

@animlnitr8 I got the kind with removable legs. That's something to look into the next time you have a baby.

[Mirrigold]

@animlnitr8 my son is three years four months and still rear facing, he either crosses his legs, puts them up the seat or has them down the sides. He's perfectly comfortable and a broken leg is much easier to recover from than a broken neck.

[animlnitr8]

rear facing til 4 years old? where is the kid supposed to put his/her legs and feet? do they make car seats that will fit on a vehicle's seat and support the child's legs and feet? my son is 11 months old and he sits rear-facing, but is kicking the back of the seat that his car seat is on. unless i find a car seat that will support his legs instead of crushing them into the back of the seat, i'm not sure how much longer he will be able to sit rear-facing...

[Aletzsa0147]

anyone know how much it costs one of these babies for crash tests and where I can buy?

really need one: (

[bookofsnow]

The info given is untrue about Europe. In SOME countries you can buy rear facing seats up to that weight but not here in The Netherlands. The only seats we have from 9 mos of age are fwd facing. I had to get mine for rear facing on a trip to my family in America!

[msteenhuisen]

@bookofsnow Babyplezier.nl in Eindhoven blijkt leverancier te zijn van de stoeltjes. Misschien een idee voor verdere accessoires of service. Ik zag ze daar staan toen ik daar vandeweek voor de eerste keer kwam. Het heeft ook mijn ogen geopend!

[TheBalder12]

BeSafe is one of few manufacturers that promote rear facing car seat in Europe outside Scandinavia. Where is the rest of the manufacturers? Information from road safety organisations, crash test institues, medical experts and others shows very clearly that rear facing is 5 times safer than forward facing in a frontal collision. 50% of all crashes happens frontal.

[TheBalder12]

BeSafe is one of few manufacturers that promote rear facing car seat in Europe outside Scandinavia.

[Cerenza]

-continued from previous post-

In Sweden, VTI came to every fatal accident, in which children were killed, through a period of over 10 years. They found in fact not a single case where a child in a rear-facing seat died in a crash that came from behind, but there were actually one child who sat facing forwards and died in a collision from behind.

[Cerenza]

When it comes to collisions from the rear, vs. the forward-facing seats,it is rare that they happen at high speeds, but there are often many collisions happening from behind. The accidents with serious injuries and death (as for many children could have been avoided if they were sitting facing backwards) is the front accidents. - continues next post-

[swtgi1982]

very good video thanks! My 4.5yr old and 3yr old are still RF in my car, they are happier that way and still fit, and will be until they no longer fit that way.

[Dannibrown77]

If you get hit from behind, the same physics apply because the crash forces are still moving in the forward direction. Unless you are driving a car with no trunk, they still have a significant amount of crumple zone between them and the impact.

[EscapeInABook]

@Serutos You have to secure your children in the car until they are 135(150) cm and or 36 kg here in Norway. There is nothing in this video saying that you should stop having your children in car seats when they are four years old, but they should be rear-facing in the car at least till they are four.

I believe the rules on how long the child should be in a car seat are almost the same throughout Europe and in the USA.

[orangenod18]

now lets drive facing backwards =D

[proeatr16]

@overturned50 GO FUCK YOURSELF. Heartless bastard.

[Serutos]

4 years old? LOL here in switzerland you will have you kid in a seat till its 12years old. OR you could PAY ALOT OF MONEY.

[bloodthreat]

What if you get hit from behind?

[frenzycon]

@bloodthreat i'll jizz

[BoAFan149]

@bloodthreat When you are struck in a rear impact, the vehicles involved are traveling in the same direction, and the vehicle that is hit in the back has room to move forward. The crash force on the occupants is much less than in a frontal impact. The movement of the impacted vehicle, in addition to the crush zone, absorbs a lot of the crash energy, so it is not transferred to the child. Additionally, the majority of rear impacts are at low speeds.

[billings11]

@BoAFan149 To rebut that: Most front impacts also occur between two cars facing the same direction as well, and also at low speeds, and also the frontal crush zone absorbs lots of force.. I agree that it's obvious rear facing seats are safer, but not the 5X this video claims. You can't look at one specific test case and use that to generalize quantitatively. Side and hind impacts would have to be included.

[BoAFan149]

@billings11 Frontal & frontal offset crashes combine for about 72% of severe crashes. Side impacts are about 24%. Rear & rear crashes only account for about 4%. The NHTSA FARS database shows similar numbers. The odds of being in a frontal crash w/ a fatality or very serious injury R many times greater than being in a severe rear-end crash. Rear-enders are more common @ lower speeds, though most injuries in these crashes are not as severe

car-safety(dot)org/rearface(do­t)html

[719Mariska]

@bloodthreat I was thinking the same thing when I was watching...

[altinoren]

@bloodthreat,

Frontal and frontal offset crashes combine for about 72% of severe crashes. Side impacts are about 24%. Rear and rear offset crashes only account for about 4%.

[whiteroses82]

amaniswatchingyou, that's a good question. Think about which way the force will go. Imagine sitting at a stop light and a car rear ending you. Your head will fly forward. There are very few crash scenarios in which your head will be thrown backwards, and I can't imagine one that is high speed. Most of them involve you being thrown forward or sideways, so rear facing a young child / baby will protect them the most.

[unlivable1]

so what if the back seats have air bags?

[abbielynn84]

@unlivable1 Back seats do have side curtain airbags in many cars, but that will knock the seat sideways either way. I guess I don't understand the question.

[unlivable1]

@abbielynn84

its a complicated question but what would happen if the air bags come out of the back of the front seat what would happen to the baby if the air bags hit the back of the baby seat thing?

Sorry its hard to ask this question you dont have to answer

[abbielynn84]

@unlivable1 - to my knowledge, there are no airbags in the back of a front seat. Do you mean an airbag for a back seat passenger, that comes out of the back of a front seat? If so, I don't believe these exist.

[AGreenWallSnipes]

so what about adults sitting in the back? are we supposed to it backwards?

[abbielynn84]

@AGreenWallSnipes It actually would be beneficial for adults to sit rear-facing, but it just isn't practical with today's cars. It just makes a huge difference for children under 4 because of their spines not being fully developed yet.

[TheCyoruk]

very nice.. what i was thinking the other day.

[amaniswatchingyou]

what if the car is rear ended wouldn't it be the opposite?

[abbielynn84]

@amaniswatchingyou The speeds of rear-end crashes aren't nearly as extreme. You're both going the same direction also. When it's a head on crash, the cars are going opposite directions and hit each other and everything inside the car is still moving at the prior speed (50mph in this video) while the car is sitting still. Does that help?

[jsrcamp]

@amaniswatchingyou no actually because no matter what the forse travles up the seat and doesnt throw the child foward as it would if the child was sitting FF! I hope this helps!

[betumene]

Yeah but, kids need to see someone in front of them so... how do you solve that? what if they wanna see mommy?

[jackjolli]

@betumene buy a mirror

[eligs340]

@betumene Then mommy sits in back too, and lets the man drive like its supposed to be.

[abbielynn84]

@betumene They're better off not seeing Mommy for a 5 minute drive or a 5 hour drive if they are still able to see her when they're older. Know what I mean? It's more important for the child to live. :)

[jdunk2145]

did he died?

[Boteak]

I'm turning my daughter back around, thank you!!

[abbielynn84]

@Boteak That's awesome!

This is the best video I've seen in a while, and I'm so glad I've seen two people say this today!

[seth2113]

That was very helpfull, thank you!

[taraldsvik]

Thank you



[Alexxx14a]

The best idea is to drive careful and not fast.

[vk732]

@Alexxx14a true, but what happens if the idiot who crashed into you was speeding?

[Alexxx14a]

@vk732 this is it, the wrong mentality, "whats happens if the idiot hit" if that's happen is happen, is not matter, is better to drive careful and not like a idiot.

[josephbutch]

@Walrusable hhahahahahaha

[charmjello]

@Walrusable WTF! 9 people plus yourself aren't thinking enough.

[angelchicis1]

what happenes if the car is hit from the side? which one would be safer?

[swtgi1982]

@angelchicis1

RF is still safer when in a side impact collision

[BankySkitch]

@Traveler2112 as if that was the only thing wrong with your statement?

[Traveler2112]

@BankySkitch There. I removed my statement from a year ago that is no longer a part of my thought processes and doesnt really matter in the big scheme of things. It will no longer be here to bother you. Smile. Have a nice day.

[Traveler2112]

@BankySkitch lol How did you ever come to that conclusion? I had just pointed out how times had changed since I was a kid and also wrote that car seats do increase safety. Nothing more. Goodbye.

[BankySkitch]

@Traveler2112 Oh, my mistake. I have the "I ate lead in my cornbread" dummy mixed up with the "as tight as they can be" idiot.

[Traveler2112]

@BankySkitch lol Im confused but it doesnt matter. Take care. : )

[karen98ish]

wow now i know whats the future is holding on how to use a baby car seat

[blooeyedbaybee]

Spreading like wildfire on Facebook today. Thank you! A video showing how a rear-end accident is not "more dangerous" to a rear facing baby would be great.

[Katigre4]

Thank you for this video! I hope it helps more parents choose extended rear-facing.

[petelang]

Great video! Thank you for making it! I will continue to forward it to everyone I know. My goal is to RF my 1 yr old daughter until she is at least 4 yrs old or until she reaches the limits of her Radian XTSL which is 45 lbs RF. :)

[luvbeingluvd]

Awesome! I hope this one will help my husband understand why I still RF my almost 4 year old! He is very against it. Great video!!

[BoilerEE99]

Outstanding video - I've spent hours trying to convey the benefits of rear-facing to people, but this one says everything it needs to in one minute and 6 seconds! Please help spread the word!

[pingbns]

Great hope the word spreads.