Jap cars may have their bling bling and go fast instruments, at the end of day they're still Nissans lol. Ill take an Aussie V8 any day, they sound better too. and have more History in their blood.
good to see two of the best family cars in australia being used properly. i am and always will be a holden fan so its sad for me that the ford is slightly quicker over the quarter even though it lacks the v8's instant punch. as for the smoke out of the clubsport i think maybe all of those burnouts might have bent a pushrod with the constant high revs the ford will never have the intoxicating roar of the chev v8 though and the commy looks ten times better. both awesome cars and it is just a mat
all of you need to fuck off all jap cars look like there found in a noodle box holdens and fords look tough sound tough and are fucking tough you want to drive jap cars fuck off to japan and go drive them im an australian and i'll drive an australian car till i die
#1 They are both in auto, so the drag could've turned out a lot differently if the transition in both cars were manual.
#2 Why are they 'Warming up' the tires when most car enthusiasts know that when normal road tires are warm, they are practically useless.
#3 If the question is Ford or Holden, which ones better... it doesn't matter, Japan are always going to make cars with better performance, are better looking and have better techonology.
@JustAwesomee 1 & 2 are true but 3 i have to say no to that one., German / French engineering cars are better performance and have better technology :)
@JustAwesomee Better looking? Not so sure about that. Japanese cars (at that price range) never had the look and the road presence that these two have.
@JustAwesomee you also pay double and a half the price for a jap car of the same year as you pay for either of these with that money left over you could build any of these to be an absolute weapon.
i find it funny how when they compair the engines of the two cars they say how the clubbys motor is 'pure aussie muscle' when infact its a completely american motor made by chev? whilst the ford motor is completely australian designed, owned, and built. when it comes to true australiana i believe the ford should be re-considered
@hypersuperdude No all the dicks that put badges on thier holdens think it's made by chev, THE FUCKING ENGINE IS MADE BY GM, NOT FUCKING CHEV. It has nothing to do with fucking chevorlet
The engine is an LS3 V8 engine produced by General Motors who owns both companies, which is in both the Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette.... So yes, it is a Chev engine.
Aussie muscle hahah? that 6.2 is American.... but a question an comment... is the falcon gonna get the boss 302 from the stang and I think ford should put all wheel drive In the falcon. with the 302 and awd the 0-100kph should be under 4 seconds!! itwould kill any car on the road with those two combos... and a track suspension upgrade of course
@chinchillawrangler the falcon has had the supercharged 5l (302) for almost a year now. i can see what you meen about the awd but rwd is just so much more fun to drive imo. i raced a boss 335 gtp in my xr6 turbo the other week and considering he had 65 more kws than me he didnt beat me by that much, although i got a perfect launch and he prob had t/c on and wasnt trying his heart out like me haha
I want them to bring this falcon to the US now that ford is merging their global markets. I heard they are getting rid of the straight 6 though? If so i dont want one, lol. I think putting a 4 liter straight six into a sports car is an awesome idea.
@ohhdayyum +1, a lot of Holden fan boys don't realize there is a torque restriction, fuel cut restriction and many other restrictions on the car that are given from factory and are simply removed for about $700 without a dyno tune, $1500 with a dyno tune, dyno tune both those cars, and the Holden would eat dust.
Turbo lag is also fixable with aftermarket gear too, 20k saved buying a Ford over Holden, easily fixes Fords hold backs.
"And by the time you get to the speed when the F6 is quicker, you're over the fastest legal speed limit in Australia." Who gets to 110km/hr in a race in the real world and then stomps on the brakes back down to the speed limit??
How come in the drag race in all the in-car footage the F6 is rapidly gaining and about to overtake the HSV, yet from the outside cameras, they are the same? Are they trying to make it look a lot closer because they don't want to show how much quicker the turbo 6 cylinder is than the traditional V8?
At 1minute 30 seconds they takeoff but the ford doesnt take off until a split second later. The driver had not pressed the throttle until the holden already had half a car length.So of course the holden will be in front. Even a toyota corrolla would have the jump on the f6 because of that reason.
The F6 does take a moment to get spooled up and onto the power, but that launch in the drag race was just a bad reaction from the "race car driver" [cough].
@tkotomy No shit the F6 has a turbocharged engine, think about it. The Holden uses a V8 so it has more upfront power, the F6 uses a Turbocharged in-line 6 so the power increases exponentially off the line. Nothing is as simple as it looks, learn more about cars then come back.
@manheap12 Learn more about cars? What the hell are you talking about. I've got an XR6T bud and i've done lots of work to it. Don't act like an internet hero thinking you're going to tell me specs of an engine that anyone can find out and you're gonna sound like a boss. I work on these cars all the time and i know what they're capable of. The F6 launches much quicker off the line than shown her. Hit the drags and you will see F6's leaving Holden LS's in the dust. This test was not accurate.
It would have been interesting to test the hsv against the f6's little brother the xr6 turbo which has a smaller turbo and more punch for comparing in this instance.
@tkotomy Incorrect, the Ford has a turbocharged in-line 6 cylinder engine. This means although it has less power up front, it will stack on eventually. So if a V8 went up against a V8 it would be a fairer race then this and it would be exciting to see the results of.
@manheap12 I know what engine the Ford has. You don't have to tell me the technical details. I work on these engines all the time. A stock FG F6 launches much quicker off the line than it did in this test. The guy driving it didn't know how to launch it. I understand that you think that the Holden LS should launch it off the line quickly because it's a V8 however the I6 has monster torque as well.
@jessy351 Think of it son. In this race Holden had the power quicker so it started to go faster. The Forsd had a Turbocharged in-line 6 cylinder car which produced power quicker once it started. A V8 against a V8 would be a more fair test then this was.
I think it's childish that people are constantly bringing up that the Holden V8 is sourced from Chevrolet. Big whoop what points is that supposed to win you?
id buy one of those cars no worries. but not the top gear australia dvd, they should probably leave it to the pros. oh let me guess 'australia came up with the top gear concept in the first place'
go ford all day every day but does not matter end of day its the driver of the car but it does help to have control not just pure grant thats y ford is better if you ask graig lounds and jamie win cup ford is better
FORDS KICK ASS! BUT A NICELEY TUNED 2.0L SR20DET NISSAN S15 WILL LEAVE THEM BOTH FOR DEAD!!!! MY S15 200SX MUNCHES THOSE CHEV VE R8'S ALL DAY LONG AND MY TURBO AND COOLER IS STANDARD, JUST RUNNING APEXI POWER FC ECU AND 17PSI BOOST + BIGGER EXHAUST & INJECTORS!!!! BUT A NISSAN R35 GTR SKYLINE IS THE FASTEST & BEST CAR IN THE WORLD!!!!!
"TUNED 2.0L SR20DET NISSAN S15 WILL LEAVE THEM BOTH FOR DEAD!!!! MY S15 200SX MUNCHES THOSE CHEV VE R8'S ALL DAY LONG AND MY TURBO AND COOLER IS STANDARD, "
LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAH LOL --- I cant stop laughing at how stupid you sounded with that comment.
to say that ,You obviously dont have a 200sx. Also NOT even a MORON would claim those mods but say that the cooler and turbo are standard.
top gear australia hosts, sounds like straight out of Uni fools, grow up i cant stand them could of gotten some real down to earth aussies that really know how to test drive a car embarrassing as an aussie to have these guys run the show
i would like to know why people think aussie cars are cap they look good, generally bloody reliable and are quite well built and most importantly front engine/rear wheel drive, BMW live by this platform its a shame more cars are made front wheel drive these days.
I love both these cars id properly lean more towards the f6 simply because that straight 6 is a magic bit of kit try finding an engine with a flatter torque curve.
For fuck sake they both have their advantages and disadvantages. A car is not necessarily better than a car because it is slightly faster.
Holden: Shit Gearbox, good grip, Ford: Not as good grip, good gearbox. Holden: better off the line with V8 power, Ford: better at maintaining high speed quicker because of Turbocharger.
See what I mean? To hell with the fanboys getting their knickers in a twist. I like 'em both.
Holden won bathurst so Holdens are faster. Clubsports and GTS's are made for doing 300kph down conrod straight. Fords are shit. No question. Even the V6 ones.
I'm buying a Citroen C4, because I've seen how well they go in the WRC. Dirt roads here I come :)
Sadly, alot of the people who read this post, won't get it.
to the people saying they needa test the cars with good drivers and "the f6 would win" they actually do, its called bathurst and i belive holden took out 1st 2nd and 3rd
@Thebigpigsurfer lol you do know that the f6 is a I6 turbo and doesnt race in bathurst right? Also, the holden race cars use ford internals like rear diff, rear suspension, front suspension, cylinder heads etc. Holden has the better drivers and support which is what wins the races, not the cars. The cars are virtually the same except for the shell and badges.
@Thebigpigsurfer Mate, the tech package has EVERYTHING to do with V8 supercars. the only things that are different between the two are the engine and bodyshell, and the fucking engine in the holden is a CHEVROLET
Lol this is so fucking dumb. Get someone who doesn't suffer from down syndrome to test the cars. F6 should have finished by the time Holden was half way.
Pure aussie muscle bullshit i love both cars but the Falcon is more aussie then a Holden because it is mostly australain designed and built exception for the First, and the Xd was based on a European model, But all Aussie Engine and mechanicals, The Holden is commodre has mostly been Opal based since day 1, and uses a American Engine in the, past they have used rice burner Jap Engines Ie the vl, I love both but the presenters need to get there facts right, And at least Ford Sponsors an AFL team.
I have an Xf Falcon and A HQ Premier, Both mint im talking about the commodore not All Holden's im Saying top gear got there facts wrong when talking about the car, saying it was all Aussie v8 muscle its a fucking yank v8. and the new falcon is more Aussie then Holden it uses a German gearbox, The Drive Train of the new Holden's are American even if the shell is designed and made in Australia. All commodores except the current generation where based on European opals.
@MagicPup69 Also another thing i do not get why people think its cool to put a Chevrolet badge on the New V8 Commodores because of the Engine, you dont see people putting a Nissan Badge on a Vl Commodore, fucking retards the Holden logo is way more classy. And i do know Australia's First Car was A Holden, but it doesn't really matter now any way its parent company is American like ford. I do not like the Commodres except for the Current generation they are nice cars and better then fords.
@MagicPup69 Oh and one more thing learn to read i said Commodores not Holden/ Holden used to make nice cars, The Commodores are fucking Ugly like the new ford, And At least the Falcons Still use Australian Engines. Im not one of those idiots who is Holden or Ford if Holden makes a model car i like better ill take it over Ford any day and vice a versa a nice car is a nice car, id rather buy something which is more Australian made mechanically thats all.
@MagicPup69 You idiot. the first car built in australia was the fucking AUSTRALIAN SIX, "cunt." and besides, the first fucking holden was a SLIGHTLY redesigned pontiac, and was about the 60th caer BUILT in aus. Ford also had to buch bodyshells for holden because they didn't have the manufacturing capacity. do some fucking research before you post. we already have enough ingnorant comments without going on about the 48-215
@Thebmwisthebest agreed keep traction control on and load it up to bring on boost the r8 would get flogged iv driven and worked on f6's as long as theyve been out and driven a couple r8s and the holdens feel super slow not to mention the tackiness that comes standard with commodores
why did they do this? i hate doing a comparison of an Inline6 Turbo against a V8 Clubby. compare the Clubby to the GT or whatever FPV has as a big V8 (dont be like NOOOOOB, i just dont know FPV's lineup that well). two extremely different engines. and compare the Inline6 with... nothing because its awesome and unique in its own right.
@RedBeretXXX The Falcon is really an Australian product. The straight 6 engine block is based on an engine block that was originally designed by Ford North America, but since then it's been heavily modified by Ford Oz. The rest of the car is pure Australian design. The Holden uses a Chevy made engine.
FPV would only have the 4 piston brakes in this video you can get premium brake package with bigger 6 piston brakes and the FPV would still cost less and stop quicker and do this test with the new 5ltr GT and it would smoke the club sport of the line and the f6 would beat the club sport in the more realistic rolling star race at 20kph+. plus with the FG falcon you can hold the steering wheel properly the interior fittings aren't loose and are made of good quality materials it just more ergonomic
@Asheybabexx27 Ahh you do realise that Holden is an Australian subsidiary of an American company known as GMH or General Motors North America? just like Ford is an Australian of its American namesake?
Ford Falcons are designed and built in Australia and use a German gearbox. Holden/HSV are Australian designed and built and use an American engine assembled in Mexico (or Canada?) so yeah.
Why do people write stuff like ford is true Australian dude ford is fucking American ford was the first to make a petrol motor car in AMERICA and Holden made a deal with Pontiac and vauxhall so Holden is the only true Australian car
all the ingredients are there for a good show, its just that they are trying too bloody hard to bee cool/funny. it would be better just to do normal reviews and let the fun come naturally.
Having said that, Clarkson, Hammond and May absolutely have to come and do an Aussie special. A HQ Monaro for Clarkson, an XA GT coupe for May, and an R/T 265 Charger for Hammond!
I really don't think the Aussie Topgear is all that bad - it sure is better than 5th Gear! It was just doomed from the start... it was trying to aussify top gear. If you compare this to series one and two of British Topgear, you realise this is actually very good... but nothing can live up to the brilliant show that British Topgear is these days, let alone do an Australian version of it.
Not really a bad show, just an impulsive idea IMHO.
The drag race was obviously fixed. They knew that if they showed the Ford annihilating the Holden in the drag race, Top Gear Australia would lose half their viewers.
i dont get how they say before the turbo get busy but it reaches peak power at 1950rpm which would go passed the hsv like that he always didnt floor it in the ford he started so slow and late, also dont undrstand how the ford brakes are worse when the cars lighter and it has big ass brembos
NONE OF THOSE CARS ARE ACTUALLY AUSTRALIAN, THE FORD IS MADE AND UPGRADED BY AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS AND THE THE OTHER ONE IS A VAUXHALL AND VAUXHALL IS A BRITISH CAR COMPANY, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A MATCH BETWEEN ENGLAND AND AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
@TheRguru1 wrong on both points, both vehicles are made in Australia the Ford 6 is a totally Australian design the US does not use this engine in any vehicle they use a V6 like the one in the ford Explorer and ford Australia almost replaced the straight 6 with this V6 were it not for the consumer backlash against this engine, the Vauxhall you speak of is a re badged Holden the engine is US sourced but the supercharger development by walkinshaw racing is Uniquely Australian
supercharge the R8, then race again and see who wins
XxXTommo69 3 hours ago
Jap cars may have their bling bling and go fast instruments, at the end of day they're still Nissans lol. Ill take an Aussie V8 any day, they sound better too. and have more History in their blood.
heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy 3 days ago
they should do fpv gt and hsv so their both v8
DJJaayL 4 days ago
The Ford would have smashed the drag race if the geezer behind the wheel knew what he was doing!!
doboura 6 days ago
and as for the jap car lover eat a bag of dicks
1royalwolf 6 days ago
good to see two of the best family cars in australia being used properly. i am and always will be a holden fan so its sad for me that the ford is slightly quicker over the quarter even though it lacks the v8's instant punch. as for the smoke out of the clubsport i think maybe all of those burnouts might have bent a pushrod with the constant high revs the ford will never have the intoxicating roar of the chev v8 though and the commy looks ten times better. both awesome cars and it is just a mat
1royalwolf 6 days ago
all of you need to fuck off all jap cars look like there found in a noodle box holdens and fords look tough sound tough and are fucking tough you want to drive jap cars fuck off to japan and go drive them im an australian and i'll drive an australian car till i die
JDMulraney 1 week ago
aussie top gear is completely shit
airnz98873 1 week ago
most fun you can have with your clothes on
ineverplay 1 week ago
#1 They are both in auto, so the drag could've turned out a lot differently if the transition in both cars were manual.
#2 Why are they 'Warming up' the tires when most car enthusiasts know that when normal road tires are warm, they are practically useless.
#3 If the question is Ford or Holden, which ones better... it doesn't matter, Japan are always going to make cars with better performance, are better looking and have better techonology.
JustAwesomee 2 weeks ago 4
@JustAwesomee 1 & 2 are true but 3 i have to say no to that one., German / French engineering cars are better performance and have better technology :)
Superiorpakfan 1 week ago
@JustAwesomee Better looking? Not so sure about that. Japanese cars (at that price range) never had the look and the road presence that these two have.
denisonn 1 week ago
@JustAwesomee you also pay double and a half the price for a jap car of the same year as you pay for either of these with that money left over you could build any of these to be an absolute weapon.
TheHeroSam 3 days ago
I want one of these cars naoooooo
Dustin322 2 weeks ago
They should of done the new gtp vs the clubsport
cobzeHx 2 weeks ago
@RAJSTA81 i thought indians ride 49cc scooters
Mr1000hp 2 weeks ago
Rajsta, please fuck off, nobody wants you japcrap bullshit here, my milk bottle has more litres in it.
Why dont they compare gt against hsv. Until holden brings out a 6 with turbo, this is pointless.
Actually both cars are made overseas one way or another. No car is built completely australian
delijafromdownunder 2 weeks ago
haha see the hsv blowing smoke on the takeoff? piece of shit
footlongfabo 2 weeks ago
i find it funny how when they compair the engines of the two cars they say how the clubbys motor is 'pure aussie muscle' when infact its a completely american motor made by chev? whilst the ford motor is completely australian designed, owned, and built. when it comes to true australiana i believe the ford should be re-considered
hypersuperdude 3 weeks ago in playlist Falcon 11
@hypersuperdude you know ford is american not australian look it up on wikipedia
freosat49 1 week ago
@freosat49 Dude his talking about ford Australia
AweakenedKing 1 week ago
@freosat49 And so is Holden owned by GM USA and for your information the ford falcon is made and designed in AUSTRALIA.
a60614 1 week ago
@hypersuperdude No all the dicks that put badges on thier holdens think it's made by chev, THE FUCKING ENGINE IS MADE BY GM, NOT FUCKING CHEV. It has nothing to do with fucking chevorlet
madrx2 5 days ago
@madrx2
The engine is an LS3 V8 engine produced by General Motors who owns both companies, which is in both the Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette.... So yes, it is a Chev engine.
XxXTommo69 3 hours ago
Aussie muscle hahah? that 6.2 is American.... but a question an comment... is the falcon gonna get the boss 302 from the stang and I think ford should put all wheel drive In the falcon. with the 302 and awd the 0-100kph should be under 4 seconds!! itwould kill any car on the road with those two combos... and a track suspension upgrade of course
chinchillawrangler 3 weeks ago
@chinchillawrangler the falcon has had the supercharged 5l (302) for almost a year now. i can see what you meen about the awd but rwd is just so much more fun to drive imo. i raced a boss 335 gtp in my xr6 turbo the other week and considering he had 65 more kws than me he didnt beat me by that much, although i got a perfect launch and he prob had t/c on and wasnt trying his heart out like me haha
andrewbthomson 2 weeks ago
either way aLOT OF CASH FOR A HUNK OF SHIT !!!!!
oblvr8 1 month ago
LOL CAR NOOB MATE WOULDNT YOU ALREADY BE SPOOLING IT SINCE IT PROB KICKs IN AT 4 500 AND YES U CAN DO THAT IN A STOCK CAR MORONS
oblvr8 1 month ago
the hsv started before but still won't beat the fpv
HamadHHAG 1 month ago
Ford and Holden/Opel/GM should get their heads straight and sell those in europe and the states.
captainsewerrat 1 month ago
Typical GM BullShit.
xx78LTDxx 1 month ago
Sorry, from an UNBIASED opinion the ford looks gay, that red thing looks MEAN AND MONSTEROUS
ABostonElite 1 month ago
@ABostonElite from another unbiased opinion they look basically exactly the same, both plastic pieces of junk
catsyfamous4areason 1 month ago
Why wast the f6 allowed to use Perfromance setting in the drag.. It shifts at like 5k in drive.. although it still ruined the clubby
FormulaVeeRacer1200 1 month ago
Its so annoying how to use the aussie slang so much its like they are trying to stereotype us to the other country's
jakemc8 1 month ago
For those saying it took the ford ages to catch up in the drag that's because it takes a while for the turbo to spool.
Fucking car noobs
callumsmith338 1 month ago
LOL FUNNY AS WARM UP THE TIRES
ALSO GUYS CHANGE CRAP GEARS IN THE HSV AND IT WOULD ROMP ALL DAY :)
funny how the fords weigh less but yet took ages too catch the hsv off the line WTF turdd!!!
oblvr8 1 month ago
@oblvr8 Stick to your games, car's is clearly not your subject.
AussieBloke108 1 month ago
I want them to bring this falcon to the US now that ford is merging their global markets. I heard they are getting rid of the straight 6 though? If so i dont want one, lol. I think putting a 4 liter straight six into a sports car is an awesome idea.
kanaric 1 month ago
fpv had to de-tune the six cylinders coz there that fast
ohhdayyum 1 month ago
@ohhdayyum +1, a lot of Holden fan boys don't realize there is a torque restriction, fuel cut restriction and many other restrictions on the car that are given from factory and are simply removed for about $700 without a dyno tune, $1500 with a dyno tune, dyno tune both those cars, and the Holden would eat dust.
Turbo lag is also fixable with aftermarket gear too, 20k saved buying a Ford over Holden, easily fixes Fords hold backs.
AussieBloke108 1 month ago
They should have compared an XR8 to the Clubsport, both being V8
RDCKM 1 month ago
An xr8 would beat a HSV. But i'd love to chuck a Ford GT40 next to any holden.
GoldenStarstruck 1 month ago
@GoldenStarstruck. How about a Mustang Shelby GT500 Super Snake next to any Holden?
RDCKM 1 month ago
Time for a Top Gear top tip: Always be sure to warm up your tires before going out for a drive.
TopSpeed232 1 month ago
Australian cars are awesome
francisalec 1 month ago
"And by the time you get to the speed when the F6 is quicker, you're over the fastest legal speed limit in Australia." Who gets to 110km/hr in a race in the real world and then stomps on the brakes back down to the speed limit??
charlesholzy 2 months ago
How come in the drag race in all the in-car footage the F6 is rapidly gaining and about to overtake the HSV, yet from the outside cameras, they are the same? Are they trying to make it look a lot closer because they don't want to show how much quicker the turbo 6 cylinder is than the traditional V8?
charlesholzy 2 months ago
At 1minute 30 seconds they takeoff but the ford doesnt take off until a split second later. The driver had not pressed the throttle until the holden already had half a car length.So of course the holden will be in front. Even a toyota corrolla would have the jump on the f6 because of that reason.
StavTakko 2 months ago
The F6 does take a moment to get spooled up and onto the power, but that launch in the drag race was just a bad reaction from the "race car driver" [cough].
XR8xSHOCKWAVE 2 months ago
Can't wait for the new Ford Falcon 4 cyl next year........
Breatherable 2 months ago
@Breatherable -.-
385921105 2 months ago
The F6 launches way better... terrible race. In a quarter mile that R8 would have literally nothing for the FPV.
tkotomy 2 months ago
@tkotomy No shit the F6 has a turbocharged engine, think about it. The Holden uses a V8 so it has more upfront power, the F6 uses a Turbocharged in-line 6 so the power increases exponentially off the line. Nothing is as simple as it looks, learn more about cars then come back.
kthxbai
manheap12 2 months ago
@manheap12 Learn more about cars? What the hell are you talking about. I've got an XR6T bud and i've done lots of work to it. Don't act like an internet hero thinking you're going to tell me specs of an engine that anyone can find out and you're gonna sound like a boss. I work on these cars all the time and i know what they're capable of. The F6 launches much quicker off the line than shown her. Hit the drags and you will see F6's leaving Holden LS's in the dust. This test was not accurate.
tkotomy 2 months ago
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tkotomy 2 months ago
It would have been interesting to test the hsv against the f6's little brother the xr6 turbo which has a smaller turbo and more punch for comparing in this instance.
StavTakko 3 months ago
Why didn't they use the FPV GT, a V8 vs a V8
thetyler1212 3 months ago
Come on ford!
I think they should race a V8 against a V8 and then see what happens
jessy351 3 months ago
@jessy351
Then the FPV would SMASH the hsv. 335kw GT would demolish an R8
133maxiboy 3 months ago
@jessy351 it would be even more of a trashing
tkotomy 2 months ago
@tkotomy Incorrect, the Ford has a turbocharged in-line 6 cylinder engine. This means although it has less power up front, it will stack on eventually. So if a V8 went up against a V8 it would be a fairer race then this and it would be exciting to see the results of.
manheap12 2 months ago
@manheap12 I know what engine the Ford has. You don't have to tell me the technical details. I work on these engines all the time. A stock FG F6 launches much quicker off the line than it did in this test. The guy driving it didn't know how to launch it. I understand that you think that the Holden LS should launch it off the line quickly because it's a V8 however the I6 has monster torque as well.
tkotomy 2 months ago
@jessy351 Think of it son. In this race Holden had the power quicker so it started to go faster. The Forsd had a Turbocharged in-line 6 cylinder car which produced power quicker once it started. A V8 against a V8 would be a more fair test then this was.
manheap12 2 months ago
@manheap12 Firstly im a girl. Not only guys like cars.
Secondly im into the old school V8's, so i dont know much about the newer ones, so all im going to say is GO FORD!
jessy351 2 months ago
@manheap12 This test wasn't a comparison of engine, but rather a comparison of Fords Aussie Best against Holdens Best.
AussieBloke108 1 month ago
I think it's childish that people are constantly bringing up that the Holden V8 is sourced from Chevrolet. Big whoop what points is that supposed to win you?
Konformation07 3 months ago
double over head cams oooooo
LOL
Greno 3 months ago
why race a I6 turbo and a V8 when both companys make V8's would make a lot more sense.
badmattitude666 3 months ago
@badmattitude666 whats the point when aus fords inline 6's have always matched CHEV's V8s
FpsGameMaster91 3 weeks ago
id buy one of those cars no worries. but not the top gear australia dvd, they should probably leave it to the pros. oh let me guess 'australia came up with the top gear concept in the first place'
dannyparker666 4 months ago
bla bla bla my dicks bigger than yours bla bla shut the fuck up and enjoy the video.
discomotorbikeman 4 months ago
The engine is built in australia. Only holden with a complete chevrolet engine, built overseas is the W427. Get it right.
seaner86au 4 months ago
@seaner86au Holden engine = Chevy = American, but Ford engine = Australia
frankisfunny2007 3 months ago
go ford all day every day but does not matter end of day its the driver of the car but it does help to have control not just pure grant thats y ford is better if you ask graig lounds and jamie win cup ford is better
Debbiebaxter51 4 months ago
i really cringed while watching this clip, these guys "drift"?!! cars are good but the hosts are too much
jubei1000000 4 months ago
DOHC FTW!!!!!!!!!
REPOMAN24722 4 months ago
5:33 - 6:00 me and my friends always do that
MrTimtam72 4 months ago
i6 vs V8?
buckybeaumonty 4 months ago
FORDS KICK ASS! BUT A NICELEY TUNED 2.0L SR20DET NISSAN S15 WILL LEAVE THEM BOTH FOR DEAD!!!! MY S15 200SX MUNCHES THOSE CHEV VE R8'S ALL DAY LONG AND MY TURBO AND COOLER IS STANDARD, JUST RUNNING APEXI POWER FC ECU AND 17PSI BOOST + BIGGER EXHAUST & INJECTORS!!!! BUT A NISSAN R35 GTR SKYLINE IS THE FASTEST & BEST CAR IN THE WORLD!!!!!
onenissan200sx 4 months ago
@onenissan200sx
"TUNED 2.0L SR20DET NISSAN S15 WILL LEAVE THEM BOTH FOR DEAD!!!! MY S15 200SX MUNCHES THOSE CHEV VE R8'S ALL DAY LONG AND MY TURBO AND COOLER IS STANDARD, "
LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAH LOL --- I cant stop laughing at how stupid you sounded with that comment.
to say that ,You obviously dont have a 200sx. Also NOT even a MORON would claim those mods but say that the cooler and turbo are standard.
You are the ULTIMATE dumb ass
RAJSTA81 3 weeks ago
dont think the tires are warm enough
L4CHI3 4 months ago
top gear australia hosts, sounds like straight out of Uni fools, grow up i cant stand them could of gotten some real down to earth aussies that really know how to test drive a car embarrassing as an aussie to have these guys run the show
B1inkyb0y 4 months ago
i would like to know why people think aussie cars are cap they look good, generally bloody reliable and are quite well built and most importantly front engine/rear wheel drive, BMW live by this platform its a shame more cars are made front wheel drive these days.
I love both these cars id properly lean more towards the f6 simply because that straight 6 is a magic bit of kit try finding an engine with a flatter torque curve.
cam181990 4 months ago
For fuck sake they both have their advantages and disadvantages. A car is not necessarily better than a car because it is slightly faster.
Holden: Shit Gearbox, good grip, Ford: Not as good grip, good gearbox. Holden: better off the line with V8 power, Ford: better at maintaining high speed quicker because of Turbocharger.
See what I mean? To hell with the fanboys getting their knickers in a twist. I like 'em both.
tanrio11 4 months ago 10
@tanrio11 thats cause your a fag and can't afford a holden lmao
TheMiike83 4 months ago
@tanrio11 dude u just took that guys words in the video and re typed them
cyasoonbro 4 months ago
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tanzac15 4 months ago
Both pieces of american crap
leethacksawninja1 4 months ago
@leethacksawninja1 4.0l in the f6 is australian designed and built.. lol at you and your knowledge.
TheZHLANE 4 months ago
@TheZHLANE Their owned by Americans, GM and Ford... lol at you and your taste in cars
leethacksawninja1 2 months ago
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Holden won bathurst so Holdens are faster. Clubsports and GTS's are made for doing 300kph down conrod straight. Fords are shit. No question. Even the V6 ones.
I'm buying a Citroen C4, because I've seen how well they go in the WRC. Dirt roads here I come :)
Sadly, alot of the people who read this post, won't get it.
Motorbreath310 4 months ago
If the cop pulls you over next time for doing a burn out at the traffic lights, just tell him it's the "Aussie tradition"
sonny0986 5 months ago
that body roll is real cute
SDGVISION 5 months ago
to the people saying they needa test the cars with good drivers and "the f6 would win" they actually do, its called bathurst and i belive holden took out 1st 2nd and 3rd
Thebigpigsurfer 5 months ago
@Thebigpigsurfer lol you do know that the f6 is a I6 turbo and doesnt race in bathurst right? Also, the holden race cars use ford internals like rear diff, rear suspension, front suspension, cylinder heads etc. Holden has the better drivers and support which is what wins the races, not the cars. The cars are virtually the same except for the shell and badges.
Tribunilus 5 months ago 24
@Thebigpigsurfer how can ford even compete when there are like 7 ford to abotu 23 holdens
darkgoarg1 4 months ago
@Thebigpigsurfer Hahaha... that's funny. You do realise that the cars they race at Bathurst have very little in common with road cars, don't you?
MrMcMcMcStutter 4 months ago
@Thebigpigsurfer Mate, the tech package has EVERYTHING to do with V8 supercars. the only things that are different between the two are the engine and bodyshell, and the fucking engine in the holden is a CHEVROLET
Bensaves 4 months ago
These guys are retards
ripghost 5 months ago
wow nice comments all around
alexaustralia2 5 months ago
Lol this is so fucking dumb. Get someone who doesn't suffer from down syndrome to test the cars. F6 should have finished by the time Holden was half way.
TupacX2Pak 5 months ago
@glotek1 yeah untill you pull your fucking head in and realise this performance under any other badge would cost another 50k atleast
soul111smasher 5 months ago
CLUBBY !!!!
rofalmatt 5 months ago
The Holden's tail lights look fucking shit
ForgedinShadow 5 months ago 2
@ForgedinShadow you look fucking shit mate, go suck your mums hairy pussy cunt
MagicPup69 5 months ago
@MagicPup69 Fuck off you fat dog.
ForgedinShadow 5 months ago
Red neck shit boxes, only good for taxis.
glotek1 5 months ago
A rolling start shown the F6s torque advantage. 2.7s 80-120kph rivals the germans.
944CoyoteV8 5 months ago
problem solved, spruse up the turbo and put mans tires on the ford or get a new transmission in the holden xD
zaknology 5 months ago
Pure aussie muscle bullshit i love both cars but the Falcon is more aussie then a Holden because it is mostly australain designed and built exception for the First, and the Xd was based on a European model, But all Aussie Engine and mechanicals, The Holden is commodre has mostly been Opal based since day 1, and uses a American Engine in the, past they have used rice burner Jap Engines Ie the vl, I love both but the presenters need to get there facts right, And at least Ford Sponsors an AFL team.
hambone9119 5 months ago
@hambone9119 HAHAHAHA ford more aussie than holden, holden was the first car built in australia you dickhead cunt.
MagicPup69 5 months ago
I have an Xf Falcon and A HQ Premier, Both mint im talking about the commodore not All Holden's im Saying top gear got there facts wrong when talking about the car, saying it was all Aussie v8 muscle its a fucking yank v8. and the new falcon is more Aussie then Holden it uses a German gearbox, The Drive Train of the new Holden's are American even if the shell is designed and made in Australia. All commodores except the current generation where based on European opals.
hambone9119 5 months ago
@MagicPup69 Also another thing i do not get why people think its cool to put a Chevrolet badge on the New V8 Commodores because of the Engine, you dont see people putting a Nissan Badge on a Vl Commodore, fucking retards the Holden logo is way more classy. And i do know Australia's First Car was A Holden, but it doesn't really matter now any way its parent company is American like ford. I do not like the Commodres except for the Current generation they are nice cars and better then fords.
hambone9119 5 months ago
@MagicPup69 Oh and one more thing learn to read i said Commodores not Holden/ Holden used to make nice cars, The Commodores are fucking Ugly like the new ford, And At least the Falcons Still use Australian Engines. Im not one of those idiots who is Holden or Ford if Holden makes a model car i like better ill take it over Ford any day and vice a versa a nice car is a nice car, id rather buy something which is more Australian made mechanically thats all.
hambone9119 5 months ago
@MagicPup69 You idiot. the first car built in australia was the fucking AUSTRALIAN SIX, "cunt." and besides, the first fucking holden was a SLIGHTLY redesigned pontiac, and was about the 60th caer BUILT in aus. Ford also had to buch bodyshells for holden because they didn't have the manufacturing capacity. do some fucking research before you post. we already have enough ingnorant comments without going on about the 48-215
Bensaves 4 months ago
How cool would it be to have these guy's jobs?
lukedm5 5 months ago 2
no way the f6 would loose! bloody biased drag race! f6 would have trashed that V8 if it was a genuine launch....lol@topgear australia....
Thebmwisthebest 5 months ago 2
@Thebmwisthebest agreed keep traction control on and load it up to bring on boost the r8 would get flogged iv driven and worked on f6's as long as theyve been out and driven a couple r8s and the holdens feel super slow not to mention the tackiness that comes standard with commodores
redae71 5 months ago 2
Why dont they sell them in the usa T.T Much love to you guys down under :)
willj78 5 months ago
why did they do this? i hate doing a comparison of an Inline6 Turbo against a V8 Clubby. compare the Clubby to the GT or whatever FPV has as a big V8 (dont be like NOOOOOB, i just dont know FPV's lineup that well). two extremely different engines. and compare the Inline6 with... nothing because its awesome and unique in its own right.
wue2117 5 months ago
top gear australia sucks
browndog1978 5 months ago
@RedBeretXXX The Falcon is really an Australian product. The straight 6 engine block is based on an engine block that was originally designed by Ford North America, but since then it's been heavily modified by Ford Oz. The rest of the car is pure Australian design. The Holden uses a Chevy made engine.
MrSloika 5 months ago 16
Wow!! Austrailia has the best domestic Ford/GM four door sedans! Here in Canada we get bland four door Fords besides the SHO!
jwjcook11 5 months ago
FPV would only have the 4 piston brakes in this video you can get premium brake package with bigger 6 piston brakes and the FPV would still cost less and stop quicker and do this test with the new 5ltr GT and it would smoke the club sport of the line and the f6 would beat the club sport in the more realistic rolling star race at 20kph+. plus with the FG falcon you can hold the steering wheel properly the interior fittings aren't loose and are made of good quality materials it just more ergonomic
RUMBALman4downunder 5 months ago
I love how he says the club sport is pure Aussie muscle. when its motor is american
RUMBALman4downunder 5 months ago
@RUMBALman4downunder
Thats what he means. an aussie motor has always been a big chev
zennez5 5 months ago
@zennez5 Holden used to make their own V8s I think they where called black series motor or some thing like that
RUMBALman4downunder 4 months ago
I hate these motherfuckers but I love the FPV.
HardcoreMetal89 5 months ago
you cant put a v6 against a v8 its just not fair
RideOn003 6 months ago
@RideOn003 It's not a V-6, it's an Inline 6 (aka straight 6) and a turbo straight six at that.
MrSloika 5 months ago 2
@RideOn003 its not a V6 sigh....
theboxmike 5 months ago
@theboxmike its a straight six
RideOn003 5 months ago
put the ford against the gts
gusbus936 6 months ago
@gusbus936 put the gts against a ford gt
armasiel 6 months ago
Sit on the Fence. What wankers. They couldnt even come up with a better car. What a crap show
Colin06R1 6 months ago
Actually Chev made it. And it's still a hell of an engine.
BTW Ford 4l = Iron with alloy head.
Motorbreath310 6 months ago
@Motorbreath310 i was thinking about the gt my mistake.
hardstyleburgz 6 months ago
holden made a 6.2l v8 for the noise not performance..
the 4.0l alloy turbocharged has more torque, meaning its always going to catch the v8.
hardstyleburgz 6 months ago
the holden r8 fucking screams in real life
LAfant619 6 months ago
The German gearbox in the Falcons is in the case of the ZF auto otherwise, the Manual is a tremec tr6060.
Motorbreath310 6 months ago
@Asheybabexx27 Ahh you do realise that Holden is an Australian subsidiary of an American company known as GMH or General Motors North America? just like Ford is an Australian of its American namesake?
Ford Falcons are designed and built in Australia and use a German gearbox. Holden/HSV are Australian designed and built and use an American engine assembled in Mexico (or Canada?) so yeah.
Motorbreath310 6 months ago
Why do people write stuff like ford is true Australian dude ford is fucking American ford was the first to make a petrol motor car in AMERICA and Holden made a deal with Pontiac and vauxhall so Holden is the only true Australian car
Asheybabexx27 6 months ago
@Asheybabexx27 yeah thats why every Commodore up until the VE was a European (Opel ) design with US GM bits.
Ansett76 6 months ago
@Asheybabexx27
Ford Australia is Australian !
nick081980 6 months ago
lol he decided to give the hsv the 1 or 2 seconds it needs to look good :)
cartaa100 6 months ago
stop drifting those cars. i wanna see how track worthy are. wtf. sliding isnt good driving. its being fckn stupid
geosnafu 6 months ago
Clubsport all the way
Bloody awesome
I'd by a Maloo over a clubsport any day
duck9846 6 months ago
or buy an import, spend 2 grand and have a cheaper faster car
spoonspoon1984 6 months ago
Anyone know a name of the song when they are drifting...?
ilovehsv1 6 months ago
id like to see the FPV 335kw 5 litre V8 against the FPV 310kw 4 litre 6 cylinder...
or at the very least id like to see fords V8 "warming its tyres"
imlay1992 6 months ago
@Veekil
-_-
Danzoizanagi 6 months ago
all the ingredients are there for a good show, its just that they are trying too bloody hard to bee cool/funny. it would be better just to do normal reviews and let the fun come naturally.
fomoco74 6 months ago
Having said that, Clarkson, Hammond and May absolutely have to come and do an Aussie special. A HQ Monaro for Clarkson, an XA GT coupe for May, and an R/T 265 Charger for Hammond!
Who agrees?
MrHellyeah2010 6 months ago
I really don't think the Aussie Topgear is all that bad - it sure is better than 5th Gear! It was just doomed from the start... it was trying to aussify top gear. If you compare this to series one and two of British Topgear, you realise this is actually very good... but nothing can live up to the brilliant show that British Topgear is these days, let alone do an Australian version of it.
Not really a bad show, just an impulsive idea IMHO.
MrHellyeah2010 6 months ago
@MrHellyeah2010 It's fine when they stop trying to be, as you said 'An Aussify Top Gear' and when they just make it their own.
JRG1993s 6 months ago
@JRG1993s Yeah I couldn't agree more mate.
MrHellyeah2010 6 months ago
The drag race was obviously fixed. They knew that if they showed the Ford annihilating the Holden in the drag race, Top Gear Australia would lose half their viewers.
PSRBF6 6 months ago
this car is not found in America? how could that be
Dosalt 7 months ago 2
i dont get how they say before the turbo get busy but it reaches peak power at 1950rpm which would go passed the hsv like that he always didnt floor it in the ford he started so slow and late, also dont undrstand how the ford brakes are worse when the cars lighter and it has big ass brembos
cartaa100 7 months ago
NONE OF THOSE CARS ARE ACTUALLY AUSTRALIAN, THE FORD IS MADE AND UPGRADED BY AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS AND THE THE OTHER ONE IS A VAUXHALL AND VAUXHALL IS A BRITISH CAR COMPANY, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A MATCH BETWEEN ENGLAND AND AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
TheRguru1 7 months ago
@TheRguru1 wrong on both points, both vehicles are made in Australia the Ford 6 is a totally Australian design the US does not use this engine in any vehicle they use a V6 like the one in the ford Explorer and ford Australia almost replaced the straight 6 with this V6 were it not for the consumer backlash against this engine, the Vauxhall you speak of is a re badged Holden the engine is US sourced but the supercharger development by walkinshaw racing is Uniquely Australian
meringandan 7 months ago
@TheRguru1 Your a complete fuckhead, how about you go and do some research before coming here and trying to tell us who makes our cars.
jdk2m 6 months ago
@TheRguru1 When you get it all wrong you do it so well.
Breatherable 6 months ago
@TheRguru1 Lol you really need to do your research
punisherSIXSIXSIX 6 months ago
@TheRguru1 america doesnt even make their own cars anymore. most parts come from all over the world then we assemble them in mexico or canadahhh
chinchillawrangler 6 months ago
@TheRguru1
you idiot.
aussie66monster 6 months ago
There both autos, what is the country coming too when the "top gear" guys don't even drive manuals ! Bunch of pussy motherfucker
pussytastegood1 7 months ago
Are you kidding the clubby is a auto, WTF that old dude sucks dick
pussytastegood1 7 months ago
Im a holden man, BUT seriously, how sexy is the F6??? Both beautiful but i gotta say i love the F6.
FPSROOSTER 7 months ago
who's the old dude?
Arnaz316 7 months ago