@kerpunktehmunk It's a rapid foot slide effect on the pedal, nevertheless, few mortals can do it at that speed. Jeff Porcaro was a master at this. I suspect bowling shoes work great (slippery bottoms).
Born in '75, so I'd have been 16 in '91. Just ripe for the picking! Most overhyped band from an English perspective? Fucking Oasis AND all of the bastard 'Noel-rock' offspring that followed in their wake! Crrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappp...
@kfranco145 Agreed he has an ego, but he IS a virtuoso guitartist. Why he's never in any rock magazine's 'Top 100 Guitartists' is completely beyond me!!! :D
@DarkSpot33 It's beyond you because you're stupid to think that he's a virtuoso to begin with. All he does is bang chords. He can't solo for his life. Put him in a room with players like Nuno Bettencourt, Van Halen, Vai and he'd be lost. The only real musician in this band is Chamberlain and Billy has said so himself.
@TheConstruct Weeeellll, maybe virtuoso is too strong a word, but I still think he's underated. It's not all about solo wank jobs y'know! Oh yeah, thanks for the stupid remark. You have compounded what I thought for all these years!!!
@DarkSpot33 Nothing stupid about my remark at all. The 90's was all about 'lazyness' when it came to guitar players. Thanks to that decade we have the untalented idiots that are all the rage now. None of them would've lasted 2 sec if they came out in the 70's or 80's when talent and 'paying ones dues' really did matter. Now all a hump has to do to get a deal and have fanboys falling over them like sheep to buy whatever crap they sell music-wise is alot of hits on Youtube.
@TheConstruct Forgive me, I did'nt say that you're remark was stupid, it was just the sticks 'n' stones bit at the start of you're first reply! Anyways, the 90's were'nt that bad were they? Kim Thayil could get pretty noodley with Soundgarden. I will admit to being a bit fanboy with the Pumpkins, but during the mid 90's all we had over here was the grossly overhyped 'britpop' scene *shudder* who all sang about drinking tea and washing cars in suburbia. SP saw me through all that shit! :D
@DarkSpot33 Fuck Pulp and Blur. during the 90's alot of good guitar players had to go to Europe or Japan to continue their careers thanks to North Americans embracing that lazy playing Grunge players got rich off of. The media created that hype and the stupid kids bought it like sheep. I was 21 in 91. How old were you?
@TheConstruct Americans didn't embrace the lazy playing. We embraced the power of it, the simplicity of it, and the rage of it. Shit got WAY out of hand in the late 80's crap metal scene, and it was time for a change, and a new generation to have it's music scene.
As for the good guitar players who had to go to Europe and Japan to continue their careers. Who cares?
You're whining harder than George Lynch was in an interview in the early 90's. I think it even caused his eyeliner to run...
@TheConstruct "Lazyness". Freakin crazy!! 90's rock kicks ass. I started college in 1993 and a lot of the rock and alternative music kicked ass!! You have no idea!!
@TheConstruct Sorry to break it to you holmes, but Corgan was playing all of those bland 80's scale runs in 1985. The guy is far more talented than most of the 80's players. You know why none of the 90's guitar players sounded like Bettencourt, Van Halen, Gillis or Vai? Because everyone was worn out on that shitty 80's music, and it's over-indulgent lazy pentatonic solos. Blame hacks like CC Deville/Poison and Mick Mars/Motley Crue for being the final nails in the coffin of the 80's music.
@colorbarsat4am that is such a great fucking question. I followed the Pumpkins hardcore from this time until about 1995. I think Billys out of control ego and their mega mega fame just crushed James. He became so withdrawn that he lost the passion for playing and it became more of a "job" to aspire to Billy's lofty goals. They weren't making music for the same reasons after Gish as they were in these earlier days. Just my opinion as a diehard fan in these days.
@65neu You know... I asked this on one night where i watched lots and lots of vids from 1990 to 1995. When they were becoming really huge in mid 90's, James seemed to be enjoying their moment but also heading the way of some kind of misanthropy. I even asked on some other vid what would they become if the overdose thing never happened. That's another disussion though. Anyway, i guess you're right. James seems to be a much simpler person if compared to Billy or even D'arcy...
@colorbarsat4am i'm from NY and had tix to see them at Madison Square Garden in 95 MellonCollie tour then the overdose happened like the night before the gig. i remember watching MTV and they had the MTV News and before they even said anything my heart sank - i could just feel something was wrong. Same thing happened with Nirvana - the news came on and i got this ill feeling then they said Kurt was found dead and i was devastated! Those 2 bands were my life in 92, 93, 94... i was 18, 19. prime!
@65neu Dude, i can't imagine how pissed you got. I have the ticket to their gig in São Paulo, on November 20, right here in my hand. It's not the the same characters but the songs still mean a lot to me. If something goes wrong i'll be really pissed. I guess this is gonna be the only chance to see and hear some anthems of my life played by Corgan himself... I'm not worried at all right now 'cause this is a much more positive moment though. The new band is giving their everythings up there...
@colorbarsat4am i never listened to Pearl Jam in those days they weren't dangerous or rock enough for me. Didn't like Soundgarden either. Only Pumpkins and Nirvana (and other underground bands too) Nirvana and SP especially Billy in his day those bands played rock like their fucking LIVES depended on it. No question they had the passion. I was 19 when Kurt Cobain died. What a teenage cultural moment! When people ask what event symbolized my generation - for me it was the suicide of Kurt Cobain
awsome...i was on that tour...
independenzavideos 1 month ago
the intro is awesome im hgh and i thought it was part of the song
jcl2014 2 months ago
SP and Nirvana same festival? woulda killed to be there.
SludgePunkGrunge 2 months ago 5
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 3:50!
chetalk 5 months ago 3
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chetalk 5 months ago
man...i feel another pumpkins binge coming on after watching this. yes! they were so intense and musically creative
avedic 7 months ago
And 3:50 - holy crap, Jimmy Chamberlin ACTUALLY played 3 kicks in a row at that speed! Do you have any idea how *difficult* that is to do?!
kerpunktehmunk 7 months ago
@kerpunktehmunk It's a rapid foot slide effect on the pedal, nevertheless, few mortals can do it at that speed. Jeff Porcaro was a master at this. I suspect bowling shoes work great (slippery bottoms).
ejeepin 3 months ago
4:02 - love how he just laughs a little bit. He clearly enjoyed that song, too!
kerpunktehmunk 7 months ago
I tried closing my eyes and pretending I was at this concert instead of a high schooler with todays shitty music...I was mind fucked by talent..
MajorKoenig2 9 months ago
Holy fuck,, I totally forgot
markydeeks 11 months ago
i was there ;o)
FILTHYFAKE 1 year ago
alzare il volume a manetta!!!
Nordavind1709 1 year ago 2
ese es james?
coldgin8080 1 year ago
@coldgin8080 sip
dimarziotonezone23 7 months ago
the drummer rocks!
tourette82 1 year ago 2
la mejor banda de todo el mundo! PUNTO!
angelizer999 1 year ago
Thanks Jimmy!! =D
Suprematista 1 year ago
Born in '75, so I'd have been 16 in '91. Just ripe for the picking! Most overhyped band from an English perspective? Fucking Oasis AND all of the bastard 'Noel-rock' offspring that followed in their wake! Crrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappp...
DarkSpot33 1 year ago 4
Beautiful performance! Billy before he turned into a douche-bag egomaniac.
kfranco145 1 year ago 2
@kfranco145 Agreed he has an ego, but he IS a virtuoso guitartist. Why he's never in any rock magazine's 'Top 100 Guitartists' is completely beyond me!!! :D
DarkSpot33 1 year ago
@DarkSpot33 It's beyond you because you're stupid to think that he's a virtuoso to begin with. All he does is bang chords. He can't solo for his life. Put him in a room with players like Nuno Bettencourt, Van Halen, Vai and he'd be lost. The only real musician in this band is Chamberlain and Billy has said so himself.
TheConstruct 1 year ago
@TheConstruct Weeeellll, maybe virtuoso is too strong a word, but I still think he's underated. It's not all about solo wank jobs y'know! Oh yeah, thanks for the stupid remark. You have compounded what I thought for all these years!!!
DarkSpot33 1 year ago
@DarkSpot33 Nothing stupid about my remark at all. The 90's was all about 'lazyness' when it came to guitar players. Thanks to that decade we have the untalented idiots that are all the rage now. None of them would've lasted 2 sec if they came out in the 70's or 80's when talent and 'paying ones dues' really did matter. Now all a hump has to do to get a deal and have fanboys falling over them like sheep to buy whatever crap they sell music-wise is alot of hits on Youtube.
Sad.
TheConstruct 1 year ago
@TheConstruct Forgive me, I did'nt say that you're remark was stupid, it was just the sticks 'n' stones bit at the start of you're first reply! Anyways, the 90's were'nt that bad were they? Kim Thayil could get pretty noodley with Soundgarden. I will admit to being a bit fanboy with the Pumpkins, but during the mid 90's all we had over here was the grossly overhyped 'britpop' scene *shudder* who all sang about drinking tea and washing cars in suburbia. SP saw me through all that shit! :D
DarkSpot33 1 year ago
@DarkSpot33 Fuck Pulp and Blur. during the 90's alot of good guitar players had to go to Europe or Japan to continue their careers thanks to North Americans embracing that lazy playing Grunge players got rich off of. The media created that hype and the stupid kids bought it like sheep. I was 21 in 91. How old were you?
TheConstruct 1 year ago
@TheConstruct Americans didn't embrace the lazy playing. We embraced the power of it, the simplicity of it, and the rage of it. Shit got WAY out of hand in the late 80's crap metal scene, and it was time for a change, and a new generation to have it's music scene.
As for the good guitar players who had to go to Europe and Japan to continue their careers. Who cares?
You're whining harder than George Lynch was in an interview in the early 90's. I think it even caused his eyeliner to run...
WarmothGuitarist 2 months ago
@TheConstruct "Lazyness". Freakin crazy!! 90's rock kicks ass. I started college in 1993 and a lot of the rock and alternative music kicked ass!! You have no idea!!
goodkarma36 1 year ago
@TheConstruct Sorry to break it to you holmes, but Corgan was playing all of those bland 80's scale runs in 1985. The guy is far more talented than most of the 80's players. You know why none of the 90's guitar players sounded like Bettencourt, Van Halen, Gillis or Vai? Because everyone was worn out on that shitty 80's music, and it's over-indulgent lazy pentatonic solos. Blame hacks like CC Deville/Poison and Mick Mars/Motley Crue for being the final nails in the coffin of the 80's music.
WarmothGuitarist 2 months ago
fuc.. yea
hondave1 1 year ago
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Suprematista 1 year ago
Man, Jimmy with all his Young Power was awesome!!!
Suprematista 1 year ago
Total musical extasy... love it...
HispanicImpression 1 year ago
Somebody tell me why james became such a boring figure on stage as years went by...
colorbarsat4am 1 year ago
@colorbarsat4am that is such a great fucking question. I followed the Pumpkins hardcore from this time until about 1995. I think Billys out of control ego and their mega mega fame just crushed James. He became so withdrawn that he lost the passion for playing and it became more of a "job" to aspire to Billy's lofty goals. They weren't making music for the same reasons after Gish as they were in these earlier days. Just my opinion as a diehard fan in these days.
65neu 1 year ago
@65neu You know... I asked this on one night where i watched lots and lots of vids from 1990 to 1995. When they were becoming really huge in mid 90's, James seemed to be enjoying their moment but also heading the way of some kind of misanthropy. I even asked on some other vid what would they become if the overdose thing never happened. That's another disussion though. Anyway, i guess you're right. James seems to be a much simpler person if compared to Billy or even D'arcy...
colorbarsat4am 1 year ago
@colorbarsat4am i'm from NY and had tix to see them at Madison Square Garden in 95 MellonCollie tour then the overdose happened like the night before the gig. i remember watching MTV and they had the MTV News and before they even said anything my heart sank - i could just feel something was wrong. Same thing happened with Nirvana - the news came on and i got this ill feeling then they said Kurt was found dead and i was devastated! Those 2 bands were my life in 92, 93, 94... i was 18, 19. prime!
65neu 1 year ago
@65neu Dude, i can't imagine how pissed you got. I have the ticket to their gig in São Paulo, on November 20, right here in my hand. It's not the the same characters but the songs still mean a lot to me. If something goes wrong i'll be really pissed. I guess this is gonna be the only chance to see and hear some anthems of my life played by Corgan himself... I'm not worried at all right now 'cause this is a much more positive moment though. The new band is giving their everythings up there...
colorbarsat4am 1 year ago
@colorbarsat4am i never listened to Pearl Jam in those days they weren't dangerous or rock enough for me. Didn't like Soundgarden either. Only Pumpkins and Nirvana (and other underground bands too) Nirvana and SP especially Billy in his day those bands played rock like their fucking LIVES depended on it. No question they had the passion. I was 19 when Kurt Cobain died. What a teenage cultural moment! When people ask what event symbolized my generation - for me it was the suicide of Kurt Cobain
65neu 1 year ago
esa realmente fue gran epoca, pero elgir entra tantas y muy buenas es dificil, pero la epoca gish me pone melancolico.....
angelizer999 1 year ago
Love the youthful energy in this performance
thetheRedundant 2 years ago 6
damnnn that was good
TriffidKiller 2 years ago
is that james playing guitar?
ternalator 2 years ago
la mejor epoca de los smashing!!!!!!!!!
roxo33 2 years ago 12
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coscheee 2 years ago
i wish i was jimmy from the neck down, what the fuck
mycrusade 2 years ago
wow i cant believe only 5 of us commented on this vid its freakin amazing 3:20 onward is the best its buzzing :)
zachpygott 2 years ago 2
uuuuuuuh maldita sea como adoro esa cancion!!!!!
skopserman 2 years ago
Wow, didn't know D'Arcy played a Musicman Stingray. Nice upload BTW!
VCK9009 2 years ago
hopefully high on weed mushrooms and lsd....all at once...hahahaha
Coletonlridge 2 years ago 4
@Coletonlridge yep! ;)
Dougie208 1 year ago
freaking amazing
Rapidfire8 2 years ago
billy's gotta be high
SlickyRicky82 2 years ago
on a documentary on how he made the siva music video he said around that time the band were taking loads of LSD
NosferatuNite 2 years ago