Bach - Fugue for Violin & Basso Continuo in G Minor BWV1026

[Twjdfa]

que riqueza de instrumentación melodia y tema ....Bach es Bach nunca lo habia escuchado es increible!!!traza  ensayos de cuerda largos con ritmos muy rapidos a lonisum me encanta ying-yang equilibio rapido lento igual a serenidad igual a silencio en musica poesia es Bach

[clickityclow2004]

i dont know why but i love basso continuo

[TonyCuccia69]

basso continuo is emphasized in this piece by Bach. I absolutely love it!!

[yeshuateaching]

Awesome!

[Sidkneninja]

Is that the beginning? I'm playing that piece and it starts with a single part and Bach gradually adds all the parts. Still very nice though!

[HARMONICO101]

You must be playing something else, because I have the score for this as well, and the basso continuo and the violin start at the same time.

[Sidkneninja]

No, it sounds the same, but where it starts is slightly before the middle of my piece. The violins start first in 1st and 2nd order then the violas, cellos, and bass. Maybe this is a different movement.

[HARMONICO101]

Please don't argue with me.

This is the fugue for solo violin and basso continuo in G minor BWV1026. This the only movement. This is not an orchestral work. So say's my CD and the score I own. Heck, you can find the score for free on IMSLP.

[BlanFan2O]

@HARMONICO101 Lawl. "Please don't argue with me."

[BlanFan2O]

@Sidkneninja It might be a different arrangement.

[delauge]

I have same version as you. There are two versions but original is this which is on the video.

[migfoto]

this is a piece of art ....

[ravenrapunzel]

Remarkably beautiful!

[firebreathone]

I cannot imagine it not being Bach's. It is an amazing piece of music

[HARMONICO101]

Amazing to listen to I have to say, but not to play. I got the sheet music for this and played it. It's very akward for the violin with many uncomfortable positions. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Bach wrote this for keyboard first and adapted it into this form.

[GMJ7]

I've suspected this myself. I played this years ago (with a piano, not harpsichord, of course!), and I remember remarking when seeing the score that it seems more like a solo keyboard piece than a violin/keyboard duo. The fact that it's described explicitly by Bach (or whomever the author might be) as a fugue makes me suspicious, as well, as I don't believe any of his works entitled "Fuga" are scored strictly for solo instrument + keyboard accompaniment... Who knows? But it's a wonderful piece!

[HARMONICO101]

This is a 100% authentic Bach piece actually.

I think there are some fuga movements in his sonatas for violin and obbligato harpsichord, although I can't remember for sure.

[wcbroccoli]

"100% authentic"? Is that like being "100% pregnant"?

How did the authenticity of this work go from "doubtful" to "undoubtedly authentic" (or as you say, "100% authentic")?

I read that "this fugue has come down to us in a manuscript copy by Bach's friend and organist Johann Gottfried Walther."

Did Johann Gottfried Walther attribute it to Bach?

Note that Bach himself copied out a St. Mark Passion which he attributed to Reinhard Keiser, but the attribution is doubtful.

[wcbroccoli]

There are even fugues in each of Bach's 3 sonatas for UNACCOMPANIED violin.

And he even transcribed those solo violin fugues to keyboard. It's very interesting to see how he adapted solo violin pieces to keyboard. He doesn't merely copy the notes and add accompaniment. He takes the implied counterpoints of the solo violin and turns them into real counterpoints. He embellishes static violin notes to make them work on a haprsichord. He adapts the violin idiom to the keyboard idiom.

[wcbroccoli]

Just because it's hard to play doesn't mean it wasn't written for violin.

Try playing this as a solo keyboard piece.

Some passages, e.g., the violinistic triple stops and wide leaping arpeggios,

won't even fit the hands.

The 2nd movements of Bach's solo violin sonatas are all marked "Fuga". So why does the "Fuga" label in this (?fragment of a) piece make you suspicious? Why can't you have a "fuga" for violin and continuo?

[wcbroccoli]

The idea of a "fuga" for violin (with 2 parts in the violin) and figured bass is simply a variation on the 17th and early 18th century trio sonata.

Bach also wrote fugues for solo flute and continuo.

Solo why does a "fuga" for solo violin and continuo make you suspicious?

Do you not find it more unusual that Bach wrote 3 solo violin sonatas, each with a fugue for unaccompanied violin?

BTW, a composer doesn't have to label a piece "fuga" to make it a fugue.

[HARMONICO101]

Please stop ranting. I'm not interested in getting into a debate right now.

[wcbroccoli]

Disagreeing with you and explaining my reasons, or volunteering information, is not "ranting".

And I doubt I've said anything that can be debated.

[wcbroccoli]

Re: "Look, there is a difference between music that is awkward to play but follows the instrument, like Paganini's work, and pieces that are hard because they don't fit the instrument, like Brahms violin concerto."

Essentially, the violin was designed to be a 1-line instrument; not to play fugues. So making it play 2- or 3-part stile antico vocal polyphony will surely not "follow the instrument."

[satchelluc]

This peice is so beautiful and elegant!

[fat0stupid0depressed]

i first learned about this piece 1 month ago, and feel in love with it immediately.

[fat0stupid0depressed]

*fell

[satchelluc]

Hey here's an idea why don't you keep your pompous comments to yourself, you pertentious fuck.

[Mnacuspia004]

@satchelluc : completely agree with you

[bubblykings]

Where do you get all that beautiful music anyways? which CDs?

[HARMONICO101]

Hundreds. :)

[bubblykings]

You buy HUNDREDS of CDs? I only have 56!

[HARMONICO101]

I know people who have thousands of CDs, so my collection is still very much in it's infancy.

[bubblykings]

okay...lol

I guess my collection is so small it's nothing.

[wcbroccoli]

The fact that something's awkward to play doesn't mean it's a transcription. This violinist makes it sound easy.

Many of the musical GESTURES in the violin part are VERY violinistic -- even if awkward to play -- and NOT AT ALL like the keyboard idiom.

A keyboard to violin transcription would not acquire triple stops and wide violin leaps that don't fit a keyboard player's hand.

[wcbroccoli]

The used to say the same thing about "Bist du bei mir".

[agota1988]

What to say? It´s so beautiful...

[The30YearOldVirgin]

Nice video... but nicer music!

[imusiciki]

Nice video by the way!