I'd say ideas, content, is of secondary importance to the form of the relation, of challenge, gift, counter-gift. To give, receive, and destroy, all at the same time is the most intense, "The French are glad to die for love. They delight in fighting duels"
@lntertubes Isn't that Buddhist saying supposed to be taken as a joke. It's a way of saying "get lost" to someone who expects you to hold their hand to get through life.
Man cannot live on bread alone but at the same time man needs bread to live at all. So that "guilt of being in the universe" as Becker stated is a mix of striving for meaning without being disillusioned with no meaning. Strong nihilism can be birthed from a previous will to meaning in religion or some other construct of significance. The "fall" is harder and the awakening to a world without ultimate meaning is much more stronger.
I know this ailment. It seems to stand out more as I age. I find myself chasing this quest for meaning. As you say, it's not a matter of wanting for food, money or anything of a materialistic value. On one hand it serves to push me to do better. I went back to school at 35 partially because of this feeling that my life lacked meaning. On the other hand, I now have a degree, and a career where I can say that I DO make a difference. Yet, somehow it still seems lacking in the grand scheme of things
true.. but new needs appear where others are fulfilled, according to Maslov right? It's pretty much hardwired into the human brain I guess. And that doesn't have to be a bad thing, because eventually people seek for social needs and more interrelative needs, than their own egotistical needs. At least, when all goes well according to my thoughts on that.
I've been told Americans are a nation of malcontents as are most nomads.Man of La Mancha to dream the impossible dream. I've heard the Danes are the happiest, they joke they have lower expectations! I go to my happy place now people, Bye!
I'm starting to think of ProfessorAnton as the Montaigne of YouTube. I suppose there are many others posting "personal essay" videos, but I haven't seen any other body of work that come close to the combination of intimacy and intellectual focus. It's become "must see TV" ever day for me.
I don't know if we can actualize an ideal but having an ideal that may not be attainable isn't necessarily a bad thing either, provided the one who holds the ideal is process oriented rather than goal oriented. GO people are only temporarily satisfied when they achieve goals whereas PO people are about the "journey" and not the "destination".
Even if the goal or ideal isn't attained, a POP will still benefit from the experience of the effort. A GOP sees only absolutes in success or failure.
Oh and I think that even if we can achieve an ideal we envision, it's a never ending cycle.
As you suggested, I think we can certainly create a more 'idealised' ideal. There's always a higher mountain to climb, there's always a longer race to run.
So the actualization of an ideal itself may not be what is at the core of an individual's desire but the state of dissatisfaction no matter the achievements one has made.
First of all, I just want to let you know that I'm a new subscriber of yours and I've immensely enjoyed all of your videos. Extremely thought provoking and enlightening subject matter.
With respect to this topic, I think it's very true. Most people, unfortunately, do not recognize the separation of their idealized self from their actual self. More often than not, the idealized state they imagine is unattainable and they fail to recognize the full value of what they already have in their life.
wow very true, prof, you should check out a movie called the tao of steve, you would love it
MurderGod666 1 year ago
i think this is one of my favourite videos on youtube
mrmike9959 1 year ago
i think you nailed it here.mr in between can be both and yet independent of both!
1+1=3 PEACE COREY
thesunshon 1 year ago
I'd say ideas, content, is of secondary importance to the form of the relation, of challenge, gift, counter-gift. To give, receive, and destroy, all at the same time is the most intense, "The French are glad to die for love. They delight in fighting duels"
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes Isn't that Buddhist saying supposed to be taken as a joke. It's a way of saying "get lost" to someone who expects you to hold their hand to get through life.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes In any case, I can't help but take it as a joke.
lntertubes 1 year ago
if it hadn't ailed them they would know about it... /me hugs his turing tar-pit.
jogayot 2 years ago
Man cannot live on bread alone but at the same time man needs bread to live at all. So that "guilt of being in the universe" as Becker stated is a mix of striving for meaning without being disillusioned with no meaning. Strong nihilism can be birthed from a previous will to meaning in religion or some other construct of significance. The "fall" is harder and the awakening to a world without ultimate meaning is much more stronger.
pangeaprogress 2 years ago
the yawning emptiness?
essentially what has been lost is connection with nature and our own nature.
'education' and mass media has dangled this gaudy neon tripshit of 'entertainments' like a toxic carrot and it ....cant wont do
people cant UNDERSTAND it and get unhappy, and drink and do drugs to escape
cause 'we' dont know what has been done to us!!!
zezt 2 years ago
gaudy neon tripshit of 'entertainments' Nice!
Professoranton 2 years ago
I know this ailment. It seems to stand out more as I age. I find myself chasing this quest for meaning. As you say, it's not a matter of wanting for food, money or anything of a materialistic value. On one hand it serves to push me to do better. I went back to school at 35 partially because of this feeling that my life lacked meaning. On the other hand, I now have a degree, and a career where I can say that I DO make a difference. Yet, somehow it still seems lacking in the grand scheme of things
ICharmaine 2 years ago
true.. but new needs appear where others are fulfilled, according to Maslov right? It's pretty much hardwired into the human brain I guess. And that doesn't have to be a bad thing, because eventually people seek for social needs and more interrelative needs, than their own egotistical needs. At least, when all goes well according to my thoughts on that.
jaikook 2 years ago
I've been told Americans are a nation of malcontents as are most nomads.Man of La Mancha to dream the impossible dream. I've heard the Danes are the happiest, they joke they have lower expectations! I go to my happy place now people, Bye!
5jeanbittersweet 2 years ago
I'm starting to think of ProfessorAnton as the Montaigne of YouTube. I suppose there are many others posting "personal essay" videos, but I haven't seen any other body of work that come close to the combination of intimacy and intellectual focus. It's become "must see TV" ever day for me.
Fatherflot64 2 years ago 2
Can we ever actualise an ideal? and if so, when we achieved this goal, could we not create(ontologically at least) a more 'idealised' ideal?
BMS1974 2 years ago
I don't know if we can actualize an ideal but having an ideal that may not be attainable isn't necessarily a bad thing either, provided the one who holds the ideal is process oriented rather than goal oriented. GO people are only temporarily satisfied when they achieve goals whereas PO people are about the "journey" and not the "destination".
Even if the goal or ideal isn't attained, a POP will still benefit from the experience of the effort. A GOP sees only absolutes in success or failure.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
Oh and I think that even if we can achieve an ideal we envision, it's a never ending cycle.
As you suggested, I think we can certainly create a more 'idealised' ideal. There's always a higher mountain to climb, there's always a longer race to run.
So the actualization of an ideal itself may not be what is at the core of an individual's desire but the state of dissatisfaction no matter the achievements one has made.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
As the saying goes, the secret to being happy in life is not to ask whether you're happy.
Ramiiam 2 years ago
First of all, I just want to let you know that I'm a new subscriber of yours and I've immensely enjoyed all of your videos. Extremely thought provoking and enlightening subject matter.
With respect to this topic, I think it's very true. Most people, unfortunately, do not recognize the separation of their idealized self from their actual self. More often than not, the idealized state they imagine is unattainable and they fail to recognize the full value of what they already have in their life.
Guiltaur 2 years ago