And another thing, if you want to be known as Christians, why not help out the poor and homeless like the Salvation Army instead of walking up and down the street?
If you were a real Protestant you wouldn't use foul language - because Protestantism is a form of Christianity not a political position. Tell me, have you ever been inside a Protestant church, let alone practised the Protestant RELIGION? Thanks for proving my point.
Thanks for your comments on my page Gary. They prove everything I said about you.You're obviously a deeply troubled individual who needs to seek psychiatric help.
The Inverness club is one of the larger ones, 50 members at least.
I think it was founded by some former members of the Inverness Orange lodge that folded in 1990 wanting to re-open an outpost of the Loyalist community in the far north.
"The Inverness club is one of the larger ones, 50 members at least."
How many of them come from Inverness originally (or aren't plastic football fans)? The only areas of Scotland where it's big have had heavy Irish (including. Protestant) immigration, especially Greater Glasgow.
Couldn't tell you as I don't know any of them personally.
Probabilty wise i'd think most of them are up from the central belt, or children of people who came up. Although I vaguely remember reading a newspaper article some years ago where an ex Inverness OO man was interviewed and he was a native. Still I might be wrong as it was a while ago.
Well I don't think that's true. Then again I suppose you would have to explain more of what you mean. You could not go to Glasgow and say you've 'seen' Scotland anymore than you could go to New York and say you've 'seen' America.
The densly populated schemes of Glasgow are very much like those of Edinburgh or Dundee. The gentrified areas of Glasgow are very much like those of other Scottish cities.
This is exactly what I'm talking about to SpiderDijon Dangerous thugs without the ability to think for themselves. CONDEMNED BY YOUR OWN IDIOCY GARY. Point proven.
Poor old Gary. Proud to be Protestant. But doesn't know the meaning of the word. Proud to be Orange, but can't really work out why. I suspect you didn't do very well at school. Because you don't think for yourself, or study anything properly. You'd be a better person if you did.
Gary Scott IS NOT PROTESTANT. To be Protestant you have to be Christian, and he clearly isn't. So why do you bother Gary? Apart from being NOT Protestant, you have most of what you want - a British monarch who is an Anglican, a United Kingdom, and Established Protestant Churches. So why walk up and down the street? What's the point unless you have a chip on your shoulder.
It's like people saying "the Orange Order is not relevant to modern Scotland". It is relevant simply by virtue of the fact it exists at all.
Similarly the OO and the ABOD obviously represent an aspect of Scottish culture simply because tens of thousands of Scottish people choose to participate and tens of thousands more identify with that community.
You are correct of course. I was being irrational. I think the values that the Orange Order (or perhaps more specifically its members) espouse are so opposed to the values that I want to see in Scotland. Where is the the spirit of 'A man's a man' in the Orange Order? Everybody I have ever known to be associated with them are racist and ignorant. And so perhaps I don't WANT them to represent anything of my nation.
And the other point, SpiderDijon, is that the OO and ABOD AREN'T an aspect of Scottish culture. Nearly all of it is in and around Greater Glasgow. Remove that, and you've not much left. (Except most of the country of Scotland!)
The old saying is that Glasgow is Irish and Edinburgh English. Glasgow thinks it is Scotland. It's not. It's an industrial city which has lost about HALF OF ITS POPULATION in the past fifty years. Have you been to the Gorbals recently? Most of it's been knocked down.
peever1745: c'mon now let them keep their nonsense for Loyalist areas wherever they may be but Glasgow ain't one.
Cogs7: you historian genius, what started with Charles I trying to introduce the Anglican faith to Scotland was resisted by the Protestant Covenanters & finished with them now accepting the rule of the Anglican Elizabeth II.
How many buses did they need to bring them all in from the slums of Glasgow? (Aye - slums - the most loyal Brits are the ones with the least to show for it)
why dont you shut your big mouth pal .big tuff guy on the computer but if the band was passing you bye you would shit your pants on run home to your computer and write shit ,big tuff guy yes you bobmonkfish
Aren't the Orange Order Protestant? Protestants are CHRISTIAN. If you swear like a trooper, and don't go to church, you are NOT a Christian and are a disgrace to the Protestant faith.
You're just a robot, you don't even know why you write what you write. No one is impressed by your macho posturing. You just look like a bunch of shaven baboons.
Couldn't tell you how many of the members in Inverness practice but I can say for certain that you get far more practicing Christians in the OO and the ABOD than in the general population. In Glasgow a lot go to Free Church or Evangelical congregations rather than mainline Church of Scotland.
As for the swearing, I know that in the OO anyway you are not supposed to swear (or drink or smoke) while wearing your collarette. However I can say for sure that many ignore that regulation :-)
I've no doubt that there are some Christians in these groups, or near enough, but as Jesus says "By your fruits, ye shall know them." The fruits in this case being aggression, drunkenness, provocation, foul language and general anti-social behaviour which does nothing to advance the cause of Christianity.
Let me see, that big bunch of oafs (along with a handful of older gentlemen to give it some licence) that paraded down the Royal Mile in Edinburgh in 2007. Apart from the macho thing of thumping their drums, and playing out of tune flutes (badly!), their behaviour before and after the march was much to be desired. They also didn't know how to use buckets 4their rubbish. Oh, & another thing, a whole bunch of them went in2 the Regent Bar near Calton Hill, a gay bar! I suspect that was naivety tho.
Do you mean the Act of Union parade in May or the Edinburgh district walk in June?
I was at the Act of Union parade (with my whole family in fact) and right enough, a lot of people, bandsmen and women especially, enjoyed a few bottles of beer before the procession began and there was plenty of litter.
However by way of excusing this, not that I can really, I would argue that whenever you hold a major event involving thousands of people litter gets left behind.
I can't say what the story is was with that parade back in 2007 but at the big walks the Grand Lodge of Scotland usualy pays the cost of tidying up the parks.
In the six Counties you are all for the re-routing of sectarian parades, well re-route Loyalist marches through Loyalist areas and keep your Irish Republican parades to Irish Republican areas, we neither need nor want you here, Thank you.
Last I checked Ulster was part of the UK and not Eire. If you get that worked up over it why don't you go and stay in the Republic? With a name like Paddy you would fit in just fine.
As for a secratarian parade? We have as much right to march for our believes as anyone else in this country. I wondered if people would have the right to march to show their believes if it hadn't been for the 13 Apprentice Boys shutting the gates!
Its actually Ulster and not Ireland for the record.
Why should we advertise anything? This was a parade organised to mark the opening of the Apprentice Boys of Derry in Inverness. The bulk of the people parading are from Inverness!
Culloden, very cever? If you knew your history you would know that what was started at the gates of Derry was ended at Culloden not far from Inverness I might add when James grandson attempted to reclaim his granfathers throne!
Why did you brave laddies not chose to march on the nearest Saturday to the 16th when all us good Jacobites would be in the area? Keep this kind of filth to Glasgow as the rest of Scotland want nothing to do with you scum. Maybe you will have a larger greating party next year.
Nice to see our joke of a police force out in force!!
Landyman999 2 months ago
The Scottish Highlands is not West Central Scotland and the good people up here don't want any of the intolerance you practice and preach.
caley8200 1 year ago
And another thing, if you want to be known as Christians, why not help out the poor and homeless like the Salvation Army instead of walking up and down the street?
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
inverness star of the north - no surrender !!!
garyscott 2 years ago
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an orange walk in inver-naewhere???
ffs a thought awe they did was shag sheep
pmsl
tiocfaid ar la up the REALS!!!!
18monthehoops88 2 years ago
How many of those marchers were from Inverness?
We dont want you in our city.
bcnsco 3 years ago
Inverness has got 1 of the biggest RANGERS supporters clubs in Scotland and we will march the queens highway any time we want FGAU WATP
camelonbear 2 years ago 4
I couldnt care less about how many poeple in Inverness support a Glaswegian football team. Totaly irrelevant.
I do object to Loyalists bringing their biggoted shite to the streets of Inverness though.
bcnsco 2 years ago
the streets of inverness are full of ferry fenian cunts
garyscott 2 years ago
Not many Irish folk in Inverness. You're more likely to run into English people.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
fuck off outta it then ya sheep shaggin cunt.
garyscott 2 years ago
Yep, that's about the intelligence level we're dealing with here.
IrenaDubrovna100 2 years ago
fuck off tuechter slapper. inverness is britains shame...
garyscott 2 years ago
If you were a real Protestant you wouldn't use foul language - because Protestantism is a form of Christianity not a political position. Tell me, have you ever been inside a Protestant church, let alone practised the Protestant RELIGION? Thanks for proving my point.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Thanks for your comments on my page Gary. They prove everything I said about you.You're obviously a deeply troubled individual who needs to seek psychiatric help.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Why don't you support Caley Thistle?! I hate people who don't support their local teams. Like those Man U poseurs you find everywhere but Manchester.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
The Inverness club is one of the larger ones, 50 members at least.
I think it was founded by some former members of the Inverness Orange lodge that folded in 1990 wanting to re-open an outpost of the Loyalist community in the far north.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
"The Inverness club is one of the larger ones, 50 members at least."
How many of them come from Inverness originally (or aren't plastic football fans)? The only areas of Scotland where it's big have had heavy Irish (including. Protestant) immigration, especially Greater Glasgow.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Couldn't tell you as I don't know any of them personally.
Probabilty wise i'd think most of them are up from the central belt, or children of people who came up. Although I vaguely remember reading a newspaper article some years ago where an ex Inverness OO man was interviewed and he was a native. Still I might be wrong as it was a while ago.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
and what about the amount of highlanders in glasgow ? pot and kettle come to mind ?
garyscott 2 years ago
Glasgow isn't representative of the rest of Scotland. Thank God!
IrenaDubrovna100 2 years ago
Well I don't think that's true. Then again I suppose you would have to explain more of what you mean. You could not go to Glasgow and say you've 'seen' Scotland anymore than you could go to New York and say you've 'seen' America.
The densly populated schemes of Glasgow are very much like those of Edinburgh or Dundee. The gentrified areas of Glasgow are very much like those of other Scottish cities.
It really depends what aspects you are comparing.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
fuck u are 1 thick scumbag slag - bet ur hero is myra hindley...
garyscott 2 years ago
This is exactly what I'm talking about to SpiderDijon Dangerous thugs without the ability to think for themselves. CONDEMNED BY YOUR OWN IDIOCY GARY. Point proven.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
I bet Gary Scott has never even heard of Martin Luther and Jean Calvin.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Fuck off Bob MONKHOUSE....
garyscott 2 years ago
Poor old Gary. Proud to be Protestant. But doesn't know the meaning of the word. Proud to be Orange, but can't really work out why. I suspect you didn't do very well at school. Because you don't think for yourself, or study anything properly. You'd be a better person if you did.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
p.s. Have you ever heard of Luther and Calvin? Or are you just another pseudo-Protestant football fan?
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Gary Scott IS NOT PROTESTANT. To be Protestant you have to be Christian, and he clearly isn't. So why do you bother Gary? Apart from being NOT Protestant, you have most of what you want - a British monarch who is an Anglican, a United Kingdom, and Established Protestant Churches. So why walk up and down the street? What's the point unless you have a chip on your shoulder.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
You're not a Protestant.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Gary is NOT PROTESTANT.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
p.s. Gary, have you ever heard of Martin Luther. I doubt you ever studied him in the remedial class at school.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Orangemen go home to the North of Ireland (or to the jungle) . YOU REPRESENT NOTHING OF SCOTLAND SAOR ALBA. WE WILL GET OUR INDEPENDENCE
fionndan 3 years ago
Well that's not true is it.
It's like people saying "the Orange Order is not relevant to modern Scotland". It is relevant simply by virtue of the fact it exists at all.
Similarly the OO and the ABOD obviously represent an aspect of Scottish culture simply because tens of thousands of Scottish people choose to participate and tens of thousands more identify with that community.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
You are correct of course. I was being irrational. I think the values that the Orange Order (or perhaps more specifically its members) espouse are so opposed to the values that I want to see in Scotland. Where is the the spirit of 'A man's a man' in the Orange Order? Everybody I have ever known to be associated with them are racist and ignorant. And so perhaps I don't WANT them to represent anything of my nation.
fionndan 2 years ago
And the other point, SpiderDijon, is that the OO and ABOD AREN'T an aspect of Scottish culture. Nearly all of it is in and around Greater Glasgow. Remove that, and you've not much left. (Except most of the country of Scotland!)
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
A little over half the population of Scotland live in Greater Glasgow and it's immediate hinterland.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
The old saying is that Glasgow is Irish and Edinburgh English. Glasgow thinks it is Scotland. It's not. It's an industrial city which has lost about HALF OF ITS POPULATION in the past fifty years. Have you been to the Gorbals recently? Most of it's been knocked down.
IrenaDubrovna100 2 years ago
That's certainly true, they say the Glasgow city council once had well over a million people. there are about 650,000 today.
Still, as I have said, about half of Scotlands population live in Strathclyde.
Haven't been to the Gorbals for ages. They're meant to be doing it up though aren't they?
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
fucking orange bastards
saraj12 3 years ago
not the orange arsehole.big jock knew.
sloaner67 3 years ago
Do you find paedophilia funny? Would you want your own kids or relatives molested? People who joke about it are as sick as the people who do it.
p.s. I am NOT a Celtic fan.
BobMonkfish 3 years ago
We are Orange and proud get it up ye ya rat bag bastard loud and proud
camelonbear 2 years ago 4
Thats good you are proud of being orange, finally i can sleep at night now that i realise that orangemen are proud of being orange.
celticonor92 2 years ago
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"We are Orange and proud" - So's David Dickinson off the telly. (joke)
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Scotlands shame....grown men dressed up as tin soldiers...
superscot69 3 years ago
peever1745: c'mon now let them keep their nonsense for Loyalist areas wherever they may be but Glasgow ain't one.
Cogs7: you historian genius, what started with Charles I trying to introduce the Anglican faith to Scotland was resisted by the Protestant Covenanters & finished with them now accepting the rule of the Anglican Elizabeth II.
glasgowsiol 3 years ago
Talk about fish out of water.
How many buses did they need to bring them all in from the slums of Glasgow? (Aye - slums - the most loyal Brits are the ones with the least to show for it)
BobMonkfish 3 years ago
why dont you shut your big mouth pal .big tuff guy on the computer but if the band was passing you bye you would shit your pants on run home to your computer and write shit ,big tuff guy yes you bobmonkfish
lovexxcrunk 3 years ago
Aren't the Orange Order Protestant? Protestants are CHRISTIAN. If you swear like a trooper, and don't go to church, you are NOT a Christian and are a disgrace to the Protestant faith.
You're just a robot, you don't even know why you write what you write. No one is impressed by your macho posturing. You just look like a bunch of shaven baboons.
BobMonkfish 3 years ago
Couldn't tell you how many of the members in Inverness practice but I can say for certain that you get far more practicing Christians in the OO and the ABOD than in the general population. In Glasgow a lot go to Free Church or Evangelical congregations rather than mainline Church of Scotland.
As for the swearing, I know that in the OO anyway you are not supposed to swear (or drink or smoke) while wearing your collarette. However I can say for sure that many ignore that regulation :-)
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
I've no doubt that there are some Christians in these groups, or near enough, but as Jesus says "By your fruits, ye shall know them." The fruits in this case being aggression, drunkenness, provocation, foul language and general anti-social behaviour which does nothing to advance the cause of Christianity.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Could you breifly outline your personal experience of Orange and ABOD walks?
I am interested to hear what behaviour you have personally witnessed?
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
Let me see, that big bunch of oafs (along with a handful of older gentlemen to give it some licence) that paraded down the Royal Mile in Edinburgh in 2007. Apart from the macho thing of thumping their drums, and playing out of tune flutes (badly!), their behaviour before and after the march was much to be desired. They also didn't know how to use buckets 4their rubbish. Oh, & another thing, a whole bunch of them went in2 the Regent Bar near Calton Hill, a gay bar! I suspect that was naivety tho.
BobMonkfish 2 years ago
Do you mean the Act of Union parade in May or the Edinburgh district walk in June?
I was at the Act of Union parade (with my whole family in fact) and right enough, a lot of people, bandsmen and women especially, enjoyed a few bottles of beer before the procession began and there was plenty of litter.
However by way of excusing this, not that I can really, I would argue that whenever you hold a major event involving thousands of people litter gets left behind.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
I can't say what the story is was with that parade back in 2007 but at the big walks the Grand Lodge of Scotland usualy pays the cost of tidying up the parks.
SpiderDijon2 2 years ago
In the six Counties you are all for the re-routing of sectarian parades, well re-route Loyalist marches through Loyalist areas and keep your Irish Republican parades to Irish Republican areas, we neither need nor want you here, Thank you.
glasgowsiol 3 years ago
Last I checked Ulster was part of the UK and not Eire. If you get that worked up over it why don't you go and stay in the Republic? With a name like Paddy you would fit in just fine.
VITA VERITAS VICTORIA
Cogs7 4 years ago 2
As for a secratarian parade? We have as much right to march for our believes as anyone else in this country. I wondered if people would have the right to march to show their believes if it hadn't been for the 13 Apprentice Boys shutting the gates!
Its actually Ulster and not Ireland for the record.
VITA VERITAS VICTORIA
Cogs7 4 years ago
ULSTER? that's only one of the provinces in
IRELAND, nine counties of ulster
KEEP YOUR SECTARIAN SHITE AWAY FROM INVERNESS
UNWELCOME AND UNWANTED
highlandpaddy1916 4 years ago
Which part of Ulster is Inverness in?
BobMonkfish 3 years ago
Why should we advertise anything? This was a parade organised to mark the opening of the Apprentice Boys of Derry in Inverness. The bulk of the people parading are from Inverness!
Culloden, very cever? If you knew your history you would know that what was started at the gates of Derry was ended at Culloden not far from Inverness I might add when James grandson attempted to reclaim his granfathers throne!
VITA VERITAS VICTORIA
Cogs7 4 years ago 3
As true loyalists, why do you call it Derry and not Londonderry?
BobMonkfish 3 years ago
sectarian parades will never be welcome in Inverness.
i noticed yous never advertised your sectarian show before yous arrived.
UNWELCOME AND UNWANTED
mach a seo
highlandpaddy1916 4 years ago
Next time you wont be able to walk along the streets.
droctavia 4 years ago
dont bother coming back to Inverness you shower of sectarian ass holes.
keep your irish shit in Ireland.
do we go to Crossmaglen to remember culloden? NO
do we go to Derry to remember the clearances? NO
mach a' seo
invershneccky 4 years ago
Why did you brave laddies not chose to march on the nearest Saturday to the 16th when all us good Jacobites would be in the area? Keep this kind of filth to Glasgow as the rest of Scotland want nothing to do with you scum. Maybe you will have a larger greating party next year.
peever1745 3 years ago