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This might be apt,,,For then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now,no,nor will occur again,,,In fact ,unless those days where cut short,NO FLESH would be saved,, but on account of the chosen ones,those days will be cut short,,matt 24,, 21/22 !,,,,,It says ,,,those days,,because its a prophecy,,and is as good as already happened,,,
He also believes that the 'ruling elite' are reptiles and aliens that altered human dna, so Alex do you believe that the NWO is composed of lizards and you believe in aliens too Alex?
All I know is the testimony of ETs that have been encountered. They've all been basically humanoid.
And yes, The Law of One series is channeled information, corroborated by subsequent scientific discoveries that support its validity, also confirms that our galaxy favors the humanoid shape.
Why? Probably because voice communication is favored over telepathy in this shape, which helps to keep our minds properly veiled from the ultimate truth until we are spiritually prepared.
Third density consciousness always takes on the basic 'humanoid' shape, at least in this galaxy.
There are other humanoid species that look basically like us, but they can still have variations (different skin colors, different numbers of fingers, different sized eyes, etc), but still look basically like us.
There are some that apparently look EXACTLY like us and could even be among us.
So that's why you don't see third density animals. Humanoid is the standard in this galaxy.
Seeing religious and non-religious sides bitching to eachother in these comments is embarrassing. All I'm seeing is "God will save us" and then "I NEED PROOF THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. HAW HAW" over and over again.
\we need to stop thinking we are dumb no one is dumb just misinformed we are all infinitely smart there be no bounds to our intellect we can all be scientist and poet if we learn to use all our mind and all our body
lol Robin in the meantime is replying as well. Sorry man, wasn't even paying attention to you lol lol lol. SORRY ! Yes I'm part of the luciferian world system, you got it. Plain and simple as you said, beat me.
Unfortunately, David Icke is wrong, there is a rapture, a pre trib rapture, and those that disappear won't be the illuminati, those that disappear will be those who trust Jesus Christ for their salvation
It just shows how ignorant you are by quoting that verse from a corrupt Bible, probably such as the NIV ?! Good one.
Now go check what the real Bible, King James 1611 has to say.
Ignorant. Get ready to face God's wrath, and as I say, then we'll see if you keep that happy and prideful face. You won't. Just make sure your balls don't drop. You wan't me to prove to you WILL respond in the day of the Judgment ? I don't need to. Hang tight and wait, you'll see it for yourself.
Everyone, no exception will answer to the Almighty. I can't wait to see your ":))))))))))))))" by then. HAHAHAHAHAH It'll be hilarious. But God's coming wrath will be so powerful that hopefully you bow down and accept Jesus Christ as your savior - that or you can accept the coming mark of the beast and follow Satan. Either way, you'll enjoy it.
"Hopefully you bow down and accept Jesus Christ as your savior"
Why would I accept a storybook character as a savior? Furthermore, I don't remember the Jesus character saving ANYBODY in the gospels -- so what makes him a savior?
"that or you can accept the coming mark of the beast and follow Satan"
I won't be following or praying to any storybook character, nor will I be accepting any mark from any beast.
I have nothing to prove to you nor would I EVER try to prove anything to ignorants.
Jesus Christ will do that. While I'm here, I'll point people towards Him. Either way, it's your GOD's given gift of free will. Make sure you use it wisely son. Time is drawing near - close, right at the door.
You are right, everyone will have to answer to Jesus Christ who is King of kings and Lord of lords, every knee will bow every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father,
God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, the devil is in for a rude awaking that he would not like the world to know about, he is a defeated foe who will be thrown into the lake of fire
and are you kidding me about Muslism hahaha. You can't even be a Christian in Muslim countries, you'll be tortured and killed. Go in a muslim country such as IRAN or Saudi Arabia and try to preach Jesus. GOOD LUCK with that.
Pantheist the guy who claimed to be a Christian in the past lol. You know what, many people claim to be Christians, even Catholics. The truth will know on your door very soon, no worries. Don't let your balls drop then, be brave as you are now.
You christians are acting like we non-christians asked what is the answer to 3+4, and you told us 7, but instead of seeing that as the truth of the matter, we responded by saying, "mmm, nah, that doesn't sound right".
You act as if your faith has been proven to be absolutely factual, and that we non-christians are just in denial.
Your response, essentially, is always...
How dare you not believe as I do -- you shall burn in hell (another thing you can't prove to exist).
Fact of the matter is, Jesus was here to die for our sins. He is RISEN and He is coming back, you can try and say "no, He is not coming back ALL you want". You can cry, you can run, you can hide, you can do whatever you want. He is still coming back 2,000 years after His first coming.
I will say it again, it's not me as a Christian that is right, I am a regular person just like you. It is JESUS who is the truth. God Almighty. And he proved that. How did He do so ?
There are 100, perfectly fulfilled, prophecies of His 1st coming. There are 300 (!!!) of His 2nd coming. There are overall ~11,000 prophecies in the Bible. PROPHECIES, telling you the "end" from the beggining. Only GOD Almighty can make thousands over thousands of prophecies, all perfectly fulfilled, and I'm not talking non sense nostradamus type of vague prophecies. Afterall, if we are on the verge of His 2nd coming, 2,000 yrs later, is because we know something you don't (but you can know).
Oh yes, we can prove our faith is a fact. But it is inner and given by the Holy Spirit, and you'll NEVER understand it unless you ask Jesus to come into your heart. You see, dozens of millions upon dozens of millions did NOT deny their faith during the Roman Inquisition. Now you may think millions upon millions of true Christians are crazy or try to understand what's REALLY going on here.
Fact of the matter is that it's NOT Christians that are right, it is JESUS. I'm just as much as you are
Then what are you waiting for? I mean, our souls are on the line, right? Show us this irrefutable proof, so we can see the error of our thinking, repent, and follow Jesus.
I'm waiting.
"You'll NEVER understand it unless you ask Jesus to come into your heart"
I've been there, and done that. I used to be a christian. Because I ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE BIBLE, I saw way too many errors and contradictions for me to place my faith in it.
Our faith is not even comparable with Muslim, Buddhist, Pantheist or anyone else, because Jesus Christ is RISEN. He rose again from the dead, He is GOD. He came as a man to die for our sins ! Islam was created by the Vatican, Allah is the pagan god (moon god), Buddhism is filled with paganism as well as Hinduism, Catholicism, etc etc. Millions upon millions of true Christians did NOT deny their faith while being TORTURED like hell during the Inquisition. That alone should tell you something.
"Millions upon millions of true Christians did NOT deny their faith while being TORTURED like hell during the Inquisition. That alone should tell you something."
Many Muslims in the Middle-East have been taken to prisons, and many have and are being tortured, and didn't deny THEIR faith.
Alright, I stopped when I saw you denying Jesus Christ was here. You live 2009 AFTER CHRIST. And you said you used to be a Christian before ? Just shows the phony you are.
According to your logic, noone in the past ever existed, because you can't prove their existence, YET you live 2009 AFTER CHRIST.
Go super logic. According to Pantheist333, noone ever existed in history, we can't prove it. We didn't "see" them.
Praise God, my Lord and Savior is soon to return, no sense arguing with you, however Jesus will prove to you Himself that He exists as you wil be meeting Him.
"good job man, this is what i have been trying to tell these people. This is the externalization of the occult. it's so people turn to channeling spirits, and this belief of BECOMING AS GODS"
Psalms 82:6- I said, YOU ARE GODS, and all of you are children of the Most High.
As far as channeling spirits goes....
What is the "holy spirit" that christians are supposed to have within them? That is a foreign spirit.
And what is that which causes some christians to speak in tongues?
I don't have a blind eye to the Bible. But I can see that the Bible creates ideas and attitudes that turn a blind eye to any sense of rationality or truth.
I've found far more truth in other spiritual writings.
Have you ever read the Tao te Ching? It's dynamite.
The path of Christianity is not better than any other path per say. It is the truth, plain & simple. We live in such a Luciferian world system with such a hugeee ammount of disinformation, it's understandable the masses are brainwashed to the core.
Icke points the fact that most people are 'sheep'. Yet, he is one of them !!!
Jesus Christ is coming back, people get ready and stop listening to these disinfo agents whom themselves, are rotten disinfo agents proclaiming to be "awake".
You are absolutely right about everything you said.
(This comment was directed to KentucKorean)
... and Starbat88, one word for him = PRIDE.
Star88 is as blind as it get's. As brainwashed as it get's.
End of the day, Jesus Christ is coming back. You may scream your belief system all you can, it will not change the fact that Jesus Christ is the Almighty.
You may fight for 1+1 to be 3 all you want really.
The truth is the truth, Jesus is the way, the TRUTH and the life.
The New Age Luciferian philosophy / teosophy is THE most dangerous belief system out there. This is what David Icke promotes. It is funny how he tells people to come out of their little box, yet he is deep inside it. And by 'deep', I mean DEEP.
A blind man can not lead another blind man.
We are bound into sin since day 1. Jesus Christ's blood shared on the cross unbounds us all. He is the truth, the only truth on this planet. No "higher 2012 consciousness", no nothing.
It's funny you can accuse me of being 'brainwashed' and then in the same breath howl about Jesus being our 'savior' just because the Bible says so.
The Bible has had 2000 years to be manipulated and distorted. The only thing you can really trust is your own discernment and research into MANY perspectives.
Plus the bible is full of satanistic doctrines of death and depravity (many lost in translation), but it's vague and symbolic enough that if you say "it must be seen this way or you will suffer unimaginably" enough times, people will agree.
There's good stuff in there, but Piso, the Merovignian Roman, wrote the bible in about 180AD, before converting turkish slaves and the poor to it, then using it to rule the Pagans with an iron fist. See "The Biggest Secret", David Icke for sourced evidence.
Number one, just becuase Icke, Tsarion and Maxwell talk about some of the same things doesn't mean they have some common sinister agenda.
Two, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with channeling spirits and the like. The reason occult have been hidden is because the controllers have demonized them over the centuries. They want all your information to come from them.
And three, if you are constantly seeing the NWO lurking in the shadows and you give them your FEAR, that's when they win.
Dinosaurs, and animals in general, represent second-density consciousness. We humans have since evolved into third-density consciousness, which is consciousness of self-awareness.
We are about to make the jump into fourth-density consciousness, which is all about developing compassion for service to others.
It's also possible to go the "service to self" route, like the NWO people. But that's a much more demanding and unpleasant path.
Oh please. It seems to me that you 'woke up' from the conventional delusions that your average person believes in, only to fall into ANOTHER set of delusions.
Instead of blindly trusting the establishment, you've become blindly MIStrusting and paranoid.
You don't need to look at every substantial change in the world as "another step toward the NWO."
People ARE waking up; slowly but surely. And Jordan Maxwell, among others, is helping this awakening.
This is exactly why people suggest that non-Christians should not bother arguing with Christians. It really is futile.
They act as if what they believe has been proven to be the absolute truth, and that we are idiots for denying it, and refusing to believe as they do.
For some reason, they cannot comprehend that they CANNOT PROVE what the believe to be TRUE -- meaning that their FAITH is no more valid than the beliefs of anyone else.
He didn't have to do that, but He loves us so much that He did. God can't stand sin, and since we've proven to be the sinners we are, starting with Adam, God had to send an intercessor or we'd have no way to get to Heaven with Him. And that's where He wants us to be. Personally, I have to give my head a shake every once in a while that He loves me so much & I've done absolutely nothing to deserve it. It's an awesome security to know I take no step in life without Him.
"The reason why many are still troubled, still seeking, still making little forward progress is because they haven't yet come to the end of themselves. We're still trying to give orders, and interfering with God's work within us.' -A.W. Tozer
There are 3 barriers that block a person's total surrender to God: fear, pride, and confusion. We don't realize how much God loves us, we want to control our own lives, and we misunderstand the meaning of surrender.
Let me make this clear. They DO know him! I do know him!!
I just don't call "Him" God, or Jesus. Why does the name matter? Identity is just an illusion.
You seem to be the one locked in fear, pride and confusion. Fear because to believe anything else, in your mind, bears eternal consequences. Pride, because you continue to promote your faith above those of others. And confusion because you just can't seem to see common ground with other faiths.
And as for you 'criticism' that I might not be honoring and respecting when I just told you to...
You may be relatively polite and cordial, when you say "I don't bash people of other faiths", but when you say that you still pray that they will "see the light", you are still implying that they are wrong and you are right.
That is NOT honoring and respecting. That is JUDGING.
And I'm not trying to judge you intrinsically, but I'm not going to be quiet while you judge other spiritualities.
It is God's Truth. He says He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. This isn't 'the truth in accordance with Tara Risser's beliefs'. "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
There is a vast difference between saying I'll pray for someone and being rude. I will alter God's Truth just to be politically correct or to appease. That would mean I thought God was a liar and I don't.
I hope David Icke is right, but I think these elite, or at least their masters, would have no problem wiping out most of the worlds populations and then starting their game all over again. Anything from pushing a few asteroids in our direction to just setting off all of the nukes that are under their control, would pretty much wipe out most people on this planet.
How is such a concept of God different from the NWO?
The only reason the idea that we might be "gods" could be bad is because you still have this idea that a "god" must be an authority figure of some kind.
The philosophy that Icke is talking about is recognizing the Divinity in all of us. It's empowering and puts responsibility squarely in your own lap, rather than in that of some authority figure in the sky.
I don't know what kind of relationships you have had in your lifetime, but a relationship can exist apart from hierarchy. It is people, not God, who embrace power and rights so readily in relationships. It's people who are so addicted to power or the illusion of security that power offers. It's people who think they are entitled to dictate the terms and judge God guilty or not.
God IS love................I don't think the NWO will be 'loving' in any sense of the word.
All I'm saying that the kind of people who are behind the NWO thrive on people seeing some kind of abstract notion, like God, as some kind of unquestionable authority figure. At that point, all they need to do is take on that "role" in people's eyes, and then the people are like putty in their hands.
If you practice discernment, and are open to other ideas and forms of spirituality, they can't control what you think, because you have many sources of influence, not just the one(s) they control.
PROVE that "voodoo prevents a man from seeing God".
People trip me out when they go stating FAITH or BELIEF as FACT.
You ask how can a prideful man come before God? Pride in what sense?
What's wrong with a person being proud of what they've evolved into, when they look back and remember how they started, and what they came from?
In Genesis when the God character began to create, and it says he "saw that it was good", could it not be assumed that meant he was proud of his work?
Urbanprophet777 was saying that Voodoo is demonic and/or"black magic", and then he referenced Matthew 12:26.
I was saying that when someone is healed because of a Voodoo ritual, then how could it have been a Satanic ritual if, according to Matt 12:26, Satan casting out Satan would cause his kingdom to collapse. The bible says he comes to steal, kill, and destroy -- so healing someone, when he's supposedly out to kill, doesn't follow.
I was reading in NT recently what Paul writes in Romans. I see a clear parallell to what Alex and David talk about. We must be prepared to leave our wordly flesh and blood existence. They who are moving faster and faster with their NWO are going to their own destruction.
As a believer I accept and follow God's word. It states, 'Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord...' Deut. 18:10-12.
In 1st Corinthians 2:7-10 the hidden wisdom Paul is referring to is the Holy Spirit.
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So now Hiltons a con-man, and this has nothing to do with gov depts shilling for them to get in there? Where did the money come from, and who are the parent, and linked, corporations? Something doesn't smell right, and it stinks here as well.
Tell me, how is he highly critical on the new age, if *all* he does is to spew new age bs ? Conciousness this, conciousness that, virtual reality this, virtual reality that.
What he talks about *is* new age luciferian propaganda.
man, will you listen to yourself...do you even know what consciousness is? Consciousness = spirit....man you are completely dumbass, im sry i had to say it...you are...
well, like any person with a mind of their own (not drawn into a single doctrine or paradigm), he draws from many sources of information - staggering amounts. He doesn't spew new age bs, there's LOADS of other stuff there. If you look at a lot of the evidence out there for the supernatural - religions exploit it.
A liar must use truth to ensure belief, but he will demand you see it his way. Icke never does that, but he is very critical of the religion you are trying to defend. Interesting.
yep! It's just like other religion in a shiny new package! same old religion, great new look! C'mon! how many of us has seen this strategy in products you find in the store?
As an above person noted, David Icke also doesn't have kind words for the "new age" movement. It's just another religion in a new package. It still gives you dogma, and limits your perspective and outlook like other religions. You think your thinking outside of the box with new age, but it's the same old box. I have read David's books in detail, and he is for a freeminded outlook. I've never held much confidence in religions. I even looked at buddism, but I can't eat meat in it, so screw it!
There is a lot in their books about lycanthropy. I think it's supposed to take place on the astral plane, not the physical though.
David Icke spoke about some of the evildoers wanting the energy from the little girls before puberty. The books that I have on Luciferianism and Satanism both discuss techniques for 'vampirism' -- where you steal/drain the energy from others, unbeknownst to them, while you operate on the astral plane.
But none speak about doing anything whatsoever to children.
I know it happens,but so crazy people is there just a few off,well i hope so.They are often warlocks or High Priests in satanism,some of these things you find in vodoo and ancient cults,such as vikings,african tribes and greek and roman cults.
I knew a Mexican who taught me some Voodoo rituals. Most of what he showed me had to do with honoring my ancesors -- as well as blessing, shielding, and healing myself and others. Voodoo has gotten a very bad rep because of Hollywood.
Occult science and so-called "magic/magik" is neither good nor bad -- it's all about how you use it.
It's just like a knife...
You can use the knife to cut a rope that has someone restrained, or you can use it to stab and kill someone.
Well,vodoo is black magic,and i seen there curses in action.Vodoo is nothing i would play whit.Magic,well listen where do you think the powers come from?from you?Hmm,well i would recommed you to stay away from such things,becuse they are dangerous to play whit,im not gonna scare you how ever warn you,if the source of power is evil,it will sooner or later demand sacrifice.
Ok,last word from me becuse i got to go.The source of Jesus power was,The Holy Spirit,The source of magics,is other spirutal beeings,straight out its demons,fallen angels.Jesus said stay away from witchcraf,many times.He also met a occult man asking mme the same as you.And he said can the devil cast out him self?Whit sacrifice i mean,either you give the evil credit and obey it or they will,hurt you or someone you love,Vodoo is demons,you use.You do not use the Holy Spirit.I wish you good,pan
The rituals that many of them do are interesting. Some of them are disturbing though.
David Icke talked about some of them being possessed by demonic entities -- there are some rituals for that in the books that I have.
One of the things that surprised me, and that went against most of what I was told by non-Satanists, is that many of them do have morals. The authors tell the initiates not to use the rituals and/or hexes to harm those who have done them no wrong/harm.
do you think you can play whit the devil,and demons whitout beeing consumed?Either you are not very smart,or know little.Main goal how ever for the devil is,to keep you and people away from Jesus.And if he can do that whit nearly no effort at all,he has allready won,and you are on a very risky road
Maybe you should read my entire post(s) before you judge me.
I never said that I am Luciferian or Satanist, because I am not.
I purchased those books for informational purposes only. I try not to judge people based upon what others say. I bought those so I could see for myself exactly what it is that they do and believe.
In all fairness though...
Learning about Satan via the Bible, is like learning about Jews and Africans via a KKK grandmaster.
I learn from what i do as christian,i pray for alot of ppl,and meet alot of ppl,I never jugded you,but i asked question,Magic is done inncocent thanks,to Disney.I ask do you think people can play whit demons and the devil whit out beeing consumed,there person,beeing drained out and be replaced by demons,do you think that you can do that?I dont,lucky many quit,before it gets bad.
It's funny how little many people really know about the beliefs of Satanists and Luciferians.
Instead of parroting the things that I heard about them ( like many do), I actually went out and bought some Luciferian and Satanist books, so I could see for myself what kind of rituals they do, and what it is that they believe.
Many Luciferians and Satanists do not believe the same things -- just like many Christians do not agree with each other....
Alex must nott know that there are Christians who are also into the occult.
I guess because I'm learning to do meditation and trance work, that I must be a Satanist -- who wants to rape little girls, murder millions, and take over the world. (smh)
There are so many ways to attack and discredit the Christian religion. I know of many, but I chose not to, out of respect for their faith -- but many Christians seem to lack that respect, because they openly bash people who are on a different path.
I do it only if i have a firm proof,i mean if they are hurting people,there are many *good* shamans,wiccans etc.but if you play whit darkness,darkness wil consume you,,Becuse Jesus loves them to.But he cant stand sin and witchcraft.
As a believer I do not bash people who choose a different path. I do, however, pray for them that their eyes will be opened to the truth and the love of Jesus Christ. Anyone can be in a relationship with Jesus who but asks Him. Manmade religion has nothing to do with it. And if a believer is involved with the occult, I'd say they're relationship with Him has fallen to the wayside. God demands we flee such things.
You indirectly said that the path that I'm on is wrong or evil. If that's not what you were really trying to say, then you wouldn't have said that you hope that my eyes will be opened to truth.
That's the Christian way of 'kindly' saying what I believe is false.
Occult just means hidden.
1Corinthians 2:7- But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the HIDDEN wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
How come it's not wrong when Paul speaks of it? (smh)
First, I don't use the term Christian to describe my beliefs. There are too many from all sorts of religions who do so and obviously not all are the same. I am a follower of Jesus, and that is not a religion. It's a relationship with Jesus.
If one's path does not lead to eternity with Him through acceptance of His gracious gift of eternal life through Salvation, considering the alternative, I'd say one's on the wrong path.
It's not 'buying into an idea'. It's God's holy word. You either believe it or you don't. He says in John 14:6 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'. Because of Adam's first sin, we are all born with an evil nature that is against God. We all come into this world with a sinful nature. Psalm 51:5, Gen. 8:21, Job 14:4 refer to this. And again, having a relationship with Jesus Christ is not a religion. There is nothing manmade about it.
Fine, I might be able to agree that having a relationship with Jesus Christ is not a religion.
However, take the word "Jesus Christ" out of that sentence, and replace it with, say, "cosmic consciousness" for example. You will get a sentence of equal value.
That's why you don't need to pray for people to "open their eyes" to Jesus, because it doesn't matter what name you attach to it.
God tells me in His word, as one of His followers, to pray for people to open their eyes and hearts to Him. Not to anything or anyone else. Your saying that it doesn't matter what name you attach to it is saying that He didn't die for us. I don't know what you think the definition of a follower of Jesus is, but you obviously don't have a clue. Regardless, I believe what I believe and nothing or no one will ever change that.
The only way a person can change in their beliefs is through their own free will. I have no delusions of trying to change what you believe, necessarily.
However, I'm having a lot of trouble understanding where you are getting "the word of God", if not from the Bible.... which frankly, is nothing more than a document that, for all you know, could have been written by anyone.
And yeah, so he supposedly "died for our sins"... I never understood what that even meant; it makes virtually no sense.
Just asking questions with a side of sarcasm......lol. Oh well, you believe what you believe, and I believe what I believe. I'm a stubborn woman, but I recognize we're at an impasse. I pray, (yes Starbat88 I said pray) that you will open your heart and mind to His awesome gift of unconditional love, and eternity with Him after death.
We certainly are at an impasse. You speak of opening your heart and mind to things, and so one, and I am perfectly willing to accept that you are sincere in your position and mean no offence.
However, I don't understand why it needs to be "I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe, but you will go to hell" attitude.
If God IS love, then why is it that he can only be found in ONE document among the great many that have been written? Why not entirely within yourself?
I don't mean any offence. There's just no other way to put it. I can't dance around God's truth. I'm sure for some it's unbelievable that people believe in it and Him, but we do. The Bible clearly shows us what a loving God He is. When Adam sinned, he blew it for all mankind as our representative. The only way to reconcile that was for God to send His Son to die for us, for our sins, so that through His grace we could be saved.
The only reason you think we're born with sin is because 'the Bible says so'. And you have no reason to believe that it's "God's holy word" other than the fact that that's what you were taught from an early age. Just who are you REALLY listening to?
My heart and my God. You obviously have no faith in Him or what He says. I do. Call me whatever you will, it doesn't matter. I believe God is who He says He is, and that He'll do what He say's He'll do. HE matters. It's as simple as that.
"You obviously have no faith in Him or what He says" -tararisser
What did HE say?
If you are referring to the biblical narratives, then where is your proof that God said ANY of the words attributed to HIM/HER in that book?
I have faith.
I have faith that I don't need the bible whatsoever for me to have eternal life.
So since you have faith that the bible is "God's word", and I have faith that it isn't, one of us is wrong. What should that tell you? You can have faith and it not be true.
I never called you anything. I am completely an advocate of people following whatever spiritual path they feel is right for them.
When I start to have a problem is when I run into Christians who have this attitude that their "faith" is the ONLY correct one. It's so arrogant and just breeds bigotry and groundless hatred.
Even if you are not one of those hateful Christians, you still seem to have that superior attitude that is at the root of it.
Your beef is with the Lord. I live by the Bible as well as I can.....I do have to pray daily about my sin....not perfect in any way shape or form. I believe in it and God 100%. So if I do, why is it so unbelievable that I'd pray for others to reach the same end I will or to stand up for my beliefs? Does that make me a jerk or something? Because I try to share this awesome opportunity with others I'm superior? I don't get it. If I was a jerk, I wouldn't share His truth at all.
You're not getting me. I don't have a beef with the "lord".
I am a fairly enlightened person. I have a strong sense of morals and a strong feeling of spiritual connection, especially in recent years. And I accomplished this without "Faith in Jesus" as my foundation.
It's not right or wrong either way, but then I run into someone who fails to see basic goodness in people and instead focuses on whether I believe EXACTLY what they do.
"If I was a jerk, I wouldn't share His truth at all"
I truly believe that she (as well as many christians) has no idea that in the process of her boasting about how great her beliefs are, that she is simultaneously putting down the beliefs of others.
She continuously implies that what she believes is absolute truth, and if we don't believe the same that we are foolish and/or in error.
If her 'faith' requires that I turn off my brain and just accept something at face value without ever questioning it, then she's right. I ABSOLUTELY cannot accept that.
Even if my authority was completely trustworthy I couldn't do that. The best teacher are the ones who encourage you to question and challenge everything. And if you don't then you are not a worthy student.
The fact that such Christians do accept these things is incredible only that it seems so foolish.
"I am a follower of Jesus, and that is not a religion It's a relationship with Jesus."
So you have a relationship with a dead man (assuming that Jesus actually existed)?
That sounds pretty similar to Voodoo practitioners creating an ancestral shrine to commune with their dead relatives.
I'm assuming that you're going to say that Jesus died, but he resurrected and is alive. You weren't there to verify that -- so it's your belief. The definition of Religion is a set of beliefs.
"Again, I believe and accept God's word totally. That's called faith" - tararisser
And where can we find "God's word"?
Are you implying that what is written in the bible is "God's word", simply because the narrator wrote "God said"?
Please tell me that's not the extent of it -- because I can type/write some sentences and paragraphs write now and put "God said" before or after it. That does not mean that God ever said a word of it.
You COULD do so, but one special perk of being a believer is the Holy Spirit. He gives me discernment to know the difference. Unbelievers don't understand this, but it's true. If you turn your life over to Christ someday, you'll discover it for yourself. This is why I share the gospel to others...........so that they can.
"You COULD do so, but one special perk of being a believer is the Holy Spirit"
Oh, so you're POSSESSED? There is a spirit that was foreign to your body, that now lives on the inside of you, lol. That is possession my friend. How is that any different than what goes on in Voodoo, or any occult ritual of an invocation?
"Unbelievers don't understand this, but it's true"
First off, YOU are an unbeliever -- you don't believe what I believe.
Second, if "it's true", prove it to me, please. :)
wots going on with the moon not see it out side my home for four days now always out side my home getting mad now
MrDell67 8 months ago
Where can I find proof on the handing over of the internet, announcements of the end of the dollar and world govt?
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baccaratbargaineq 1 year ago
This might be apt,,,For then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now,no,nor will occur again,,,In fact ,unless those days where cut short,NO FLESH would be saved,, but on account of the chosen ones,those days will be cut short,,matt 24,, 21/22 !,,,,,It says ,,,those days,,because its a prophecy,,and is as good as already happened,,,
eckankarpaul 1 year ago
those ads really do nothing for their credibility
jamesarongray 2 years ago
somthing has to pay for it so you can hear the entire program
clark144 2 years ago
even so... those ads still do nothing for his cred
jamesarongray 2 years ago
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He also believes that the 'ruling elite' are reptiles and aliens that altered human dna, so Alex do you believe that the NWO is composed of lizards and you believe in aliens too Alex?
Fucking idiot.
DaftStyle 2 years ago
why have a guest Alex, if u gonna talk the most, why dont you let David speak he makes more sense than ....
sdara357 2 years ago 5
All I know is the testimony of ETs that have been encountered. They've all been basically humanoid.
And yes, The Law of One series is channeled information, corroborated by subsequent scientific discoveries that support its validity, also confirms that our galaxy favors the humanoid shape.
Why? Probably because voice communication is favored over telepathy in this shape, which helps to keep our minds properly veiled from the ultimate truth until we are spiritually prepared.
Starbat88 2 years ago
the bullshit commercials are prove enough that this show is utterly crazy...
chaomonga 2 years ago
Yup, you can find subtle elements of profound truths all over the place in pop culture productions like that.
You generally need to be of a certain level of awareness to know what your looking at though. ;)
Starbat88 2 years ago
Third density consciousness always takes on the basic 'humanoid' shape, at least in this galaxy.
There are other humanoid species that look basically like us, but they can still have variations (different skin colors, different numbers of fingers, different sized eyes, etc), but still look basically like us.
There are some that apparently look EXACTLY like us and could even be among us.
So that's why you don't see third density animals. Humanoid is the standard in this galaxy.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Seeing religious and non-religious sides bitching to eachother in these comments is embarrassing. All I'm seeing is "God will save us" and then "I NEED PROOF THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. HAW HAW" over and over again.
liquiterge 2 years ago
Even George Lucas seems to know something about this. :)
Starbat88 2 years ago
the energy of earth children yummy :)
ReptilianOverlord 2 years ago
still poor sweet,ur giving it ur best tho.bless ur cotton socks
therealsweetkbg71 2 years ago
I feel like i have a demon in me sometimes... I hope that is not the truth. I believe in God but i have been living doing things for myself...
killryn 2 years ago
\we need to stop thinking we are dumb no one is dumb just misinformed we are all infinitely smart there be no bounds to our intellect we can all be scientist and poet if we learn to use all our mind and all our body
stantheman42069 2 years ago
lol Robin in the meantime is replying as well. Sorry man, wasn't even paying attention to you lol lol lol. SORRY ! Yes I'm part of the luciferian world system, you got it. Plain and simple as you said, beat me.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"Yes I'm part of the luciferian world system, you got it. Plain and simple as you said, beat me."
Well...YEAH, it was pretty obvious to me from the start.
You said you follow Jesus.
This is what Jesus is quoted as saying in Revelation 22:16....
Revelation 22:16- I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.
Now go look up the definition for the name "Lucifer", it is defined as the Morning Star.
So yep...I'm glad you're honest about being a luciferian :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago 3
Unfortunately, David Icke is wrong, there is a rapture, a pre trib rapture, and those that disappear won't be the illuminati, those that disappear will be those who trust Jesus Christ for their salvation
1 Cor. 15:1-4
mousey1952 2 years ago
It just shows how ignorant you are by quoting that verse from a corrupt Bible, probably such as the NIV ?! Good one.
Now go check what the real Bible, King James 1611 has to say.
Ignorant. Get ready to face God's wrath, and as I say, then we'll see if you keep that happy and prideful face. You won't. Just make sure your balls don't drop. You wan't me to prove to you WILL respond in the day of the Judgment ? I don't need to. Hang tight and wait, you'll see it for yourself.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"It just shows how ignorant you are by quoting that verse from a corrupt Bible, probably such as the NIV ?! Good one."
Actually the verse was taken from the King James Version -- look it up for yourself.
I find it interesting that you acknowledge that bibles are corrupt, yet you expect me to believe what's written in them (lol).
"Ignorant"
Who is the one who is really ignorant?
I (a non-christian) have been slapping you around using verses from your own 'holy' book.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
hate to interrupt you,David, but we need to go to a break... a comercial one.
thereaIsweetkbg71 2 years ago
Everyone, no exception will answer to the Almighty. I can't wait to see your ":))))))))))))))" by then. HAHAHAHAHAH It'll be hilarious. But God's coming wrath will be so powerful that hopefully you bow down and accept Jesus Christ as your savior - that or you can accept the coming mark of the beast and follow Satan. Either way, you'll enjoy it.
" :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) "
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"But God's coming wrath will be so powerful"
Prove that please -- thanx.
"Hopefully you bow down and accept Jesus Christ as your savior"
Why would I accept a storybook character as a savior? Furthermore, I don't remember the Jesus character saving ANYBODY in the gospels -- so what makes him a savior?
"that or you can accept the coming mark of the beast and follow Satan"
I won't be following or praying to any storybook character, nor will I be accepting any mark from any beast.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I have nothing to prove to you nor would I EVER try to prove anything to ignorants.
Jesus Christ will do that. While I'm here, I'll point people towards Him. Either way, it's your GOD's given gift of free will. Make sure you use it wisely son. Time is drawing near - close, right at the door.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"I have nothing to prove to you nor wold I EVER try to prove anything to ignorants"
1 Thessalonians 5:21- Prove all things;
Your actions are not inline with what your little holy book says. You fail.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Prove that my mustache isn't filled with the holy spirit, and that my goldfish didn't die for your sins.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
You'll have to answer to the Almighty one day. You and everyone that have ever lived. Just hope you have that pride and moral by then.
Good luck.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
You'll have to answer to the Almighty one day. You and everyone that have ever lived."
Prove that please -- thanx.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
You are right, everyone will have to answer to Jesus Christ who is King of kings and Lord of lords, every knee will bow every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father,
God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, the devil is in for a rude awaking that he would not like the world to know about, he is a defeated foe who will be thrown into the lake of fire
mousey1952 2 years ago
and are you kidding me about Muslism hahaha. You can't even be a Christian in Muslim countries, you'll be tortured and killed. Go in a muslim country such as IRAN or Saudi Arabia and try to preach Jesus. GOOD LUCK with that.
Pantheist the guy who claimed to be a Christian in the past lol. You know what, many people claim to be Christians, even Catholics. The truth will know on your door very soon, no worries. Don't let your balls drop then, be brave as you are now.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"You can't even be a Christian in Muslim countries, you'll be tortured and killed"
What does that have to do with anything that I asked you?
"Go in a muslim country such as IRAN or Saudi Arabia and try to preach Jesus"
Digress much? lol
"The truth will know on your door very soon, no worries"
???
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I mean, COME ON.
You christians are acting like we non-christians asked what is the answer to 3+4, and you told us 7, but instead of seeing that as the truth of the matter, we responded by saying, "mmm, nah, that doesn't sound right".
You act as if your faith has been proven to be absolutely factual, and that we non-christians are just in denial.
Your response, essentially, is always...
How dare you not believe as I do -- you shall burn in hell (another thing you can't prove to exist).
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Fact of the matter is, Jesus was here to die for our sins. He is RISEN and He is coming back, you can try and say "no, He is not coming back ALL you want". You can cry, you can run, you can hide, you can do whatever you want. He is still coming back 2,000 years after His first coming.
I will say it again, it's not me as a Christian that is right, I am a regular person just like you. It is JESUS who is the truth. God Almighty. And he proved that. How did He do so ?
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"Fact of the matter is, Jesus was here to die for our sins. He is RISEN..."
Orlibonurb, your profile says that you're 26 -- you'd have to be almost 2026 to have verified that as fact.
Well, unless you have a time machine, and in that case, show me what you saw. :P
"You can try and say no, He is not coming back ALL you want"
First things first. Prove to me that the Jesus character was ever here a FIRST TIME...THEN we'll discuss whether or not he's "coming back".
Pantheist333 2 years ago
"I am a regular person just like you. It is JESUS who is the truth. God Almighty"
What makes Jesus "the truth"?
Prove that a god named Hern HaMashiach isn't the truth, and that he isn't God Almight.
"And he proved that. How did He do so"?
First off, prove that Jesus existed, then after that, prove that he proved whatever it is that you're talking about, lol.
The second half of that quote is the very answer I've been asking you, lol.
I'm waiting...
Pantheist333 2 years ago
There are 100, perfectly fulfilled, prophecies of His 1st coming. There are 300 (!!!) of His 2nd coming. There are overall ~11,000 prophecies in the Bible. PROPHECIES, telling you the "end" from the beggining. Only GOD Almighty can make thousands over thousands of prophecies, all perfectly fulfilled, and I'm not talking non sense nostradamus type of vague prophecies. Afterall, if we are on the verge of His 2nd coming, 2,000 yrs later, is because we know something you don't (but you can know).
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"There are 100, perfectly fulfilled, prophecies of His 1st coming. There are 300 of His 2nd coming"
Really? Lets go over them, one by one. Please do share :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Many christians seem to have a mental block, that won't allow them to understand this simple FACT....
You CANNOT PROVE that your FAITH is a FACT. Therefore, your FAITH is no more valid than the faith of a Buddhist, Pantheist, Muslim, or ANYONE.
You can't even prove that The Creator's name is Jehovah or Jesus -- or that the Creator even has a personal name at all.
Now try to prove that His/Her/It's name ISN'T Johnny-5. You CAN'T.
Prove that Jimmy Hendrix wasn't God incarnate. You CAN'T.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Oh yes, we can prove our faith is a fact. But it is inner and given by the Holy Spirit, and you'll NEVER understand it unless you ask Jesus to come into your heart. You see, dozens of millions upon dozens of millions did NOT deny their faith during the Roman Inquisition. Now you may think millions upon millions of true Christians are crazy or try to understand what's REALLY going on here.
Fact of the matter is that it's NOT Christians that are right, it is JESUS. I'm just as much as you are
orlibonurb 2 years ago
orlibonurb,
"Oh yes, we can prove our faith is a fact"
Then what are you waiting for? I mean, our souls are on the line, right? Show us this irrefutable proof, so we can see the error of our thinking, repent, and follow Jesus.
I'm waiting.
"You'll NEVER understand it unless you ask Jesus to come into your heart"
I've been there, and done that. I used to be a christian. Because I ACTUALLY READ the ENTIRE BIBLE, I saw way too many errors and contradictions for me to place my faith in it.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Our faith is not even comparable with Muslim, Buddhist, Pantheist or anyone else, because Jesus Christ is RISEN. He rose again from the dead, He is GOD. He came as a man to die for our sins ! Islam was created by the Vatican, Allah is the pagan god (moon god), Buddhism is filled with paganism as well as Hinduism, Catholicism, etc etc. Millions upon millions of true Christians did NOT deny their faith while being TORTURED like hell during the Inquisition. That alone should tell you something.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"Jesus Christ is RISEN"
Prove that please -- thanx.
"He rose again from the dead, he is GOD."
Prove that please -- thanx.
"He came as a man to die for our sins"
Prove that please -- thanx.
"Allah is the pagan god (moon god)"
Psalms 84:11 - For the Lord God is a SUN and shield.
Well, I guess Jehovah is a pagan SUN god :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago
"Millions upon millions of true Christians did NOT deny their faith while being TORTURED like hell during the Inquisition. That alone should tell you something."
Many Muslims in the Middle-East have been taken to prisons, and many have and are being tortured, and didn't deny THEIR faith.
Maybe that should tell YOU something :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Alright, I stopped when I saw you denying Jesus Christ was here. You live 2009 AFTER CHRIST. And you said you used to be a Christian before ? Just shows the phony you are.
According to your logic, noone in the past ever existed, because you can't prove their existence, YET you live 2009 AFTER CHRIST.
Go super logic. According to Pantheist333, noone ever existed in history, we can't prove it. We didn't "see" them.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
"You live 2009 AFTER CHRIST"
Prove that please -- thanx.
"According to your logic, noone in the past ever existed, because you can't prove their existence"
I never said that Jesus never existed. I just asked you to prove that to be fact.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Praise God, my Lord and Savior is soon to return, no sense arguing with you, however Jesus will prove to you Himself that He exists as you wil be meeting Him.
mousey1952 2 years ago
"Consider the Law, for all is Law.
Seek not that which is not of the Law,
for such exists only in the ILLUSIONS OF THE SENSES.Wisdom cometh to all her children
even as they cometh unto wisdom."
Biblical or religious gods are concepts outside of Law, therefore, they are illusions, hence, non-existent.
teched246 2 years ago
"Praise God, my Lord and Savior is soon to return"
What makes Jesus a "savior"? Who did he save?
Prove that he is "soon to return".
"Jesus will prove to you Himself that He exists as you wil be meeting Him."
THAT'S what I'm talking about!
It's about damn time. That's all I've been asking for is the proof of Jesus' existence, and proof of him supposedly being God.
When exactly will he be arriving?
Unless that really happens, I'm not convinced :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago
"This is the externalization of the occult"
First off, occult just means HIDDEN. It would no longer be hidden if people were attempting to make it occult practices the norm.
1 Corinthians 2:7- But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the HIDDEN wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
Why is hidden wisdom (occult wisdom) not evil or demonic when Paul is speaking about it?
Pantheist333 2 years ago
"good job man, this is what i have been trying to tell these people. This is the externalization of the occult. it's so people turn to channeling spirits, and this belief of BECOMING AS GODS"
Psalms 82:6- I said, YOU ARE GODS, and all of you are children of the Most High.
As far as channeling spirits goes....
What is the "holy spirit" that christians are supposed to have within them? That is a foreign spirit.
And what is that which causes some christians to speak in tongues?
Pantheist333 2 years ago
"Your kidding me right? there are tons of scriptures where God called witchcraft an abomination"
YOU'RE kidding ME, RIGHT?
Since when does somebody writing "God said" in a sentence make it the actual words of God?
PT333 1:24 - Thus saith God, I never said any words attributed to me in the bible.
Omg, did you see what GOD just said^^? rofl
"whoever said it was wrong for God to be proud"
Who said it's wrong for MAN to be proud? Some Jew from 2000 years ago?
That's HIS philosophy,not mine.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
As always, David is very thought provoking
deadrebel2 2 years ago
That's right. SCRIPTURES! Human writing!
Not "God".
I don't have a blind eye to the Bible. But I can see that the Bible creates ideas and attitudes that turn a blind eye to any sense of rationality or truth.
I've found far more truth in other spiritual writings.
Have you ever read the Tao te Ching? It's dynamite.
Starbat88 2 years ago
The path of Christianity is not better than any other path per say. It is the truth, plain & simple. We live in such a Luciferian world system with such a hugeee ammount of disinformation, it's understandable the masses are brainwashed to the core.
Icke points the fact that most people are 'sheep'. Yet, he is one of them !!!
Jesus Christ is coming back, people get ready and stop listening to these disinfo agents whom themselves, are rotten disinfo agents proclaiming to be "awake".
orlibonurb 2 years ago
You are absolutely right about everything you said.
(This comment was directed to KentucKorean)
... and Starbat88, one word for him = PRIDE.
Star88 is as blind as it get's. As brainwashed as it get's.
End of the day, Jesus Christ is coming back. You may scream your belief system all you can, it will not change the fact that Jesus Christ is the Almighty.
You may fight for 1+1 to be 3 all you want really.
The truth is the truth, Jesus is the way, the TRUTH and the life.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
The New Age Luciferian philosophy / teosophy is THE most dangerous belief system out there. This is what David Icke promotes. It is funny how he tells people to come out of their little box, yet he is deep inside it. And by 'deep', I mean DEEP.
A blind man can not lead another blind man.
We are bound into sin since day 1. Jesus Christ's blood shared on the cross unbounds us all. He is the truth, the only truth on this planet. No "higher 2012 consciousness", no nothing.
JUST JESUS.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
You don't even understand what you're criticizing.
If it doesn't have the name "Jesus" attached to it, then it's not true.
That's the extent of your logic.
Starbat88 2 years ago
It's funny you can accuse me of being 'brainwashed' and then in the same breath howl about Jesus being our 'savior' just because the Bible says so.
The Bible has had 2000 years to be manipulated and distorted. The only thing you can really trust is your own discernment and research into MANY perspectives.
THAT'S how you avoid being brainwashed.
"You may scream your belief system all you can"
You said it. :P
Starbat88 2 years ago
Plus the bible is full of satanistic doctrines of death and depravity (many lost in translation), but it's vague and symbolic enough that if you say "it must be seen this way or you will suffer unimaginably" enough times, people will agree.
There's good stuff in there, but Piso, the Merovignian Roman, wrote the bible in about 180AD, before converting turkish slaves and the poor to it, then using it to rule the Pagans with an iron fist. See "The Biggest Secret", David Icke for sourced evidence.
schwitt01 2 years ago
Number one, just becuase Icke, Tsarion and Maxwell talk about some of the same things doesn't mean they have some common sinister agenda.
Two, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with channeling spirits and the like. The reason occult have been hidden is because the controllers have demonized them over the centuries. They want all your information to come from them.
And three, if you are constantly seeing the NWO lurking in the shadows and you give them your FEAR, that's when they win.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Dinosaurs, and animals in general, represent second-density consciousness. We humans have since evolved into third-density consciousness, which is consciousness of self-awareness.
We are about to make the jump into fourth-density consciousness, which is all about developing compassion for service to others.
It's also possible to go the "service to self" route, like the NWO people. But that's a much more demanding and unpleasant path.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Oh please. It seems to me that you 'woke up' from the conventional delusions that your average person believes in, only to fall into ANOTHER set of delusions.
Instead of blindly trusting the establishment, you've become blindly MIStrusting and paranoid.
You don't need to look at every substantial change in the world as "another step toward the NWO."
People ARE waking up; slowly but surely. And Jordan Maxwell, among others, is helping this awakening.
Starbat88 2 years ago
now, now....didn't you tell me to respect and honor the choices of others??
tararisser 2 years ago
Jordan Maxwell's ideas make a lot of sense. He reveals a lot of hidden information about our society that most people don't think about.
What does it even mean to be an "advocate of Lucifer"? Lucifer is just another diety/concept, which you can interpret in whatever way, good or bad.
I don't understand how giving someone a label "advocate of Lucifer, promoter of x, enforcer of y, believer in z".
Try listening to the person's ideas that they're trying to communicate.
Starbat88 2 years ago
What's the music playing at 1:53?
camreeno360 2 years ago
Jordan Maxwell is another really great guy. :)
Starbat88 2 years ago
Keep up the fantastic work Alex.
The more you piss off the government
The more I love it
IrnBruFiend 2 years ago 2
I think I would rather trip with Timothy Leary than the Babylonians.
troma333 2 years ago
LMAO @ tararisser
This is exactly why people suggest that non-Christians should not bother arguing with Christians. It really is futile.
They act as if what they believe has been proven to be the absolute truth, and that we are idiots for denying it, and refusing to believe as they do.
For some reason, they cannot comprehend that they CANNOT PROVE what the believe to be TRUE -- meaning that their FAITH is no more valid than the beliefs of anyone else.
They seem totally oblivious to that.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
cont @ Starbat88,
He didn't have to do that, but He loves us so much that He did. God can't stand sin, and since we've proven to be the sinners we are, starting with Adam, God had to send an intercessor or we'd have no way to get to Heaven with Him. And that's where He wants us to be. Personally, I have to give my head a shake every once in a while that He loves me so much & I've done absolutely nothing to deserve it. It's an awesome security to know I take no step in life without Him.
tararisser 2 years ago
All you're doing is repeating the same old creation story that makes no sense.
The very concept of SIN makes no sense. It creates such a superficial, black and white mentality that it can hardly be called spiritual.
I'm honestly just speaking for myself. I follow the spiritual path that resonates and speaks to me.
If you love the Christian path so much, then great. All the power to you.
But DON'T consider the path you're on to be the only one. Respect and honor the choices of others.
Starbat88 2 years ago
"The reason why many are still troubled, still seeking, still making little forward progress is because they haven't yet come to the end of themselves. We're still trying to give orders, and interfering with God's work within us.' -A.W. Tozer
There are 3 barriers that block a person's total surrender to God: fear, pride, and confusion. We don't realize how much God loves us, we want to control our own lives, and we misunderstand the meaning of surrender.
If only people really knew Him.
tararisser 2 years ago
Let me make this clear. They DO know him! I do know him!!
I just don't call "Him" God, or Jesus. Why does the name matter? Identity is just an illusion.
You seem to be the one locked in fear, pride and confusion. Fear because to believe anything else, in your mind, bears eternal consequences. Pride, because you continue to promote your faith above those of others. And confusion because you just can't seem to see common ground with other faiths.
Starbat88 2 years ago
And as for you 'criticism' that I might not be honoring and respecting when I just told you to...
You may be relatively polite and cordial, when you say "I don't bash people of other faiths", but when you say that you still pray that they will "see the light", you are still implying that they are wrong and you are right.
That is NOT honoring and respecting. That is JUDGING.
And I'm not trying to judge you intrinsically, but I'm not going to be quiet while you judge other spiritualities.
Starbat88 2 years ago
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It is God's Truth. He says He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. This isn't 'the truth in accordance with Tara Risser's beliefs'. "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
There is a vast difference between saying I'll pray for someone and being rude. I will alter God's Truth just to be politically correct or to appease. That would mean I thought God was a liar and I don't.
tararisser 2 years ago
I hope David Icke is right, but I think these elite, or at least their masters, would have no problem wiping out most of the worlds populations and then starting their game all over again. Anything from pushing a few asteroids in our direction to just setting off all of the nukes that are under their control, would pretty much wipe out most people on this planet.
DragonWaveMaster 2 years ago
It certainly is. You "belong" to "God".
You are his property. You are his sheep.
How is such a concept of God different from the NWO?
The only reason the idea that we might be "gods" could be bad is because you still have this idea that a "god" must be an authority figure of some kind.
The philosophy that Icke is talking about is recognizing the Divinity in all of us. It's empowering and puts responsibility squarely in your own lap, rather than in that of some authority figure in the sky.
Starbat88 2 years ago
I don't know what kind of relationships you have had in your lifetime, but a relationship can exist apart from hierarchy. It is people, not God, who embrace power and rights so readily in relationships. It's people who are so addicted to power or the illusion of security that power offers. It's people who think they are entitled to dictate the terms and judge God guilty or not.
God IS love................I don't think the NWO will be 'loving' in any sense of the word.
tararisser 2 years ago
"God IS love" - tararisser
It never ceases to amaze me how many bible believers, Christians, or whatever they want to be called, don't know their bible.
Your God character is quoting as saying that he HATED Esau. Do you not know this?
Your god character is also quoted as saying, in the book of Isaiah, that he is the one responsible for evil.
So your god cannot be ALL love, but rather BOTH love AND HATE.
Pantheist333 2 years ago 2
All I'm saying that the kind of people who are behind the NWO thrive on people seeing some kind of abstract notion, like God, as some kind of unquestionable authority figure. At that point, all they need to do is take on that "role" in people's eyes, and then the people are like putty in their hands.
If you practice discernment, and are open to other ideas and forms of spirituality, they can't control what you think, because you have many sources of influence, not just the one(s) they control.
Starbat88 2 years ago
lol you sortta gotta swat the flies outta their head Panthiest333... its one more obstacle lol
int3rc3pter 2 years ago
KentuckKorean,
PROVE that "voodoo prevents a man from seeing God".
People trip me out when they go stating FAITH or BELIEF as FACT.
You ask how can a prideful man come before God? Pride in what sense?
What's wrong with a person being proud of what they've evolved into, when they look back and remember how they started, and what they came from?
In Genesis when the God character began to create, and it says he "saw that it was good", could it not be assumed that meant he was proud of his work?
Pantheist333 2 years ago
KentuckKorean,
You totally misunderstood my comment.
Urbanprophet777 was saying that Voodoo is demonic and/or"black magic", and then he referenced Matthew 12:26.
I was saying that when someone is healed because of a Voodoo ritual, then how could it have been a Satanic ritual if, according to Matt 12:26, Satan casting out Satan would cause his kingdom to collapse. The bible says he comes to steal, kill, and destroy -- so healing someone, when he's supposedly out to kill, doesn't follow.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
his interrupting because he needs to break - by law. so stop bitching, there are laws in controlling the air and radio shows in America.
bizarrejapan 2 years ago
I was reading in NT recently what Paul writes in Romans. I see a clear parallell to what Alex and David talk about. We must be prepared to leave our wordly flesh and blood existence. They who are moving faster and faster with their NWO are going to their own destruction.
rabola55 2 years ago
Infinite Consciousness Rules!
77GSlinger 2 years ago 2
The man believes in reptiles beyond the visible spectrum.........I rest my case.
resequenc3r 2 years ago
cont. @ Pantheist333
As a believer I accept and follow God's word. It states, 'Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord...' Deut. 18:10-12.
In 1st Corinthians 2:7-10 the hidden wisdom Paul is referring to is the Holy Spirit.
tararisser 2 years ago
If the "lord" DETESTS things, then he is not the Lord.
Starbat88 2 years ago
wow he is out there!
jnthnbush 2 years ago
Do you know... Its quite refreshing watching a guest say more than Alex.
Not that I'm complaining.....
ccharlie100 2 years ago
These assholes....
get their rocks off...,
seeing you suffer.
Period.
All us peaceful people....
have to kill these wackos.
Weird, eh.
The wacko bullie has to be destroyed by the peaceful.
frickadele 2 years ago
view counnter stuck at 322 for skull and bones.
falseflagburner 2 years ago
lol indeed
Marspyramids 2 years ago
CUCKOOO......CUCKOOOOO
laurasusanmag 2 years ago
reptilian bloodline is the demonic race...genesis 3:15
erikthered9 2 years ago
Yeah, so it's like I thought then...CUCKOOO
laurasusanmag 2 years ago
* Also check out: Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, Jim Marrs, Robert Anton Wilson, David Wilcock- 2012 enigma, Gregg Braden, Dr. John Coleman, Zecharia Sitchin, Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, Brian O'Leary, William Milton Cooper, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Graham Hancock...
TruthSmack 2 years ago 3
I don't know but this sounds like wacky superstition.
Rockguitarnow 2 years ago
Snake God ... at about two and half minutes
You Tube "[1 of 2] Audio Commentary:Fallen Angels [unedited]"
Alex Jones mentions skull & bones now the view counter is stuck on 322.
EssiacHempLaetrile 2 years ago
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Infectiousthought 2 years ago
was jesus jewish? was he christian?
rblwoaclu 2 years ago
He was a jew and started christianity
DHammerr 2 years ago
LOL david icke just does NOT let alex interrupt him.
ktodarling 2 years ago 8
So now Hiltons a con-man, and this has nothing to do with gov depts shilling for them to get in there? Where did the money come from, and who are the parent, and linked, corporations? Something doesn't smell right, and it stinks here as well.
bigc028282 2 years ago
Thank you for posting
Excellent program.
Whorulesnow 2 years ago
Folks, open your eyes. What David Wicked is spewing is called "new age movement".
Just google / youtube it. "New age movement exposed" or "new age luciferian".
Do not believe this non sense, unless you have a non functional brain, then it's game, set and match for you.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
actually, he's highly critical of the New age.
schwitt01 2 years ago
Tell me, how is he highly critical on the new age, if *all* he does is to spew new age bs ? Conciousness this, conciousness that, virtual reality this, virtual reality that.
What he talks about *is* new age luciferian propaganda.
orlibonurb 2 years ago
man, will you listen to yourself...do you even know what consciousness is? Consciousness = spirit....man you are completely dumbass, im sry i had to say it...you are...
EvilZeroSc 2 years ago
well, like any person with a mind of their own (not drawn into a single doctrine or paradigm), he draws from many sources of information - staggering amounts. He doesn't spew new age bs, there's LOADS of other stuff there. If you look at a lot of the evidence out there for the supernatural - religions exploit it.
A liar must use truth to ensure belief, but he will demand you see it his way. Icke never does that, but he is very critical of the religion you are trying to defend. Interesting.
schwitt01 2 years ago
yep! It's just like other religion in a shiny new package! same old religion, great new look! C'mon! how many of us has seen this strategy in products you find in the store?
SteevDragon67 2 years ago
As an above person noted, David Icke also doesn't have kind words for the "new age" movement. It's just another religion in a new package. It still gives you dogma, and limits your perspective and outlook like other religions. You think your thinking outside of the box with new age, but it's the same old box. I have read David's books in detail, and he is for a freeminded outlook. I've never held much confidence in religions. I even looked at buddism, but I can't eat meat in it, so screw it!
SteevDragon67 2 years ago 4
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SteevDragon67 2 years ago
I think the 13 families might be reptilian, they don't seem to be human at all
kancerzx 2 years ago
There is a lot in their books about lycanthropy. I think it's supposed to take place on the astral plane, not the physical though.
David Icke spoke about some of the evildoers wanting the energy from the little girls before puberty. The books that I have on Luciferianism and Satanism both discuss techniques for 'vampirism' -- where you steal/drain the energy from others, unbeknownst to them, while you operate on the astral plane.
But none speak about doing anything whatsoever to children.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I know it happens,but so crazy people is there just a few off,well i hope so.They are often warlocks or High Priests in satanism,some of these things you find in vodoo and ancient cults,such as vikings,african tribes and greek and roman cults.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
urbanprophet777,
I knew a Mexican who taught me some Voodoo rituals. Most of what he showed me had to do with honoring my ancesors -- as well as blessing, shielding, and healing myself and others. Voodoo has gotten a very bad rep because of Hollywood.
Occult science and so-called "magic/magik" is neither good nor bad -- it's all about how you use it.
It's just like a knife...
You can use the knife to cut a rope that has someone restrained, or you can use it to stab and kill someone.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Well,vodoo is black magic,and i seen there curses in action.Vodoo is nothing i would play whit.Magic,well listen where do you think the powers come from?from you?Hmm,well i would recommed you to stay away from such things,becuse they are dangerous to play whit,im not gonna scare you how ever warn you,if the source of power is evil,it will sooner or later demand sacrifice.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago 2
urbanprophet777,
Let me get this straight...
So if I do a Voodoo ritual to heal myself or someone else, that is 'black magic'?
If that's the case, then Jesus performed black magic all throughout the gospel. (smh)
If the source of power is evil it will sooner or later demand sacrifice?
I guess Jehovah is evil then, because it was his will that Jesus sacrifice himself for all..
Btw, none of rituals involve human or animal sacrifice. Please know what you're talking about before you speak.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Ok,last word from me becuse i got to go.The source of Jesus power was,The Holy Spirit,The source of magics,is other spirutal beeings,straight out its demons,fallen angels.Jesus said stay away from witchcraf,many times.He also met a occult man asking mme the same as you.And he said can the devil cast out him self?Whit sacrifice i mean,either you give the evil credit and obey it or they will,hurt you or someone you love,Vodoo is demons,you use.You do not use the Holy Spirit.I wish you good,pan
urbanprophet777 2 years ago 3
urbanprophet777,
You just annihilated your own argument.
You were speaking of Matthew 12:26 -- here it is.
Matthew 12:26- And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
When people are healed via Voodoo rituals, then wouldn't that be Satan doing the opposite of what he is supposed to?
How can his kingdom stand?
Isn't he only supposed to kill, steal, and destroy?
Smh @ Christians who speak on things that they obviously know nothing about.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
The rituals that many of them do are interesting. Some of them are disturbing though.
David Icke talked about some of them being possessed by demonic entities -- there are some rituals for that in the books that I have.
One of the things that surprised me, and that went against most of what I was told by non-Satanists, is that many of them do have morals. The authors tell the initiates not to use the rituals and/or hexes to harm those who have done them no wrong/harm.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
do you think you can play whit the devil,and demons whitout beeing consumed?Either you are not very smart,or know little.Main goal how ever for the devil is,to keep you and people away from Jesus.And if he can do that whit nearly no effort at all,he has allready won,and you are on a very risky road
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
urbanprophet777,
Maybe you should read my entire post(s) before you judge me.
I never said that I am Luciferian or Satanist, because I am not.
I purchased those books for informational purposes only. I try not to judge people based upon what others say. I bought those so I could see for myself exactly what it is that they do and believe.
In all fairness though...
Learning about Satan via the Bible, is like learning about Jews and Africans via a KKK grandmaster.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I learn from what i do as christian,i pray for alot of ppl,and meet alot of ppl,I never jugded you,but i asked question,Magic is done inncocent thanks,to Disney.I ask do you think people can play whit demons and the devil whit out beeing consumed,there person,beeing drained out and be replaced by demons,do you think that you can do that?I dont,lucky many quit,before it gets bad.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
Can you tell me the titles of some of those books? :)
Starbat88 2 years ago
It's funny how little many people really know about the beliefs of Satanists and Luciferians.
Instead of parroting the things that I heard about them ( like many do), I actually went out and bought some Luciferian and Satanist books, so I could see for myself what kind of rituals they do, and what it is that they believe.
Many Luciferians and Satanists do not believe the same things -- just like many Christians do not agree with each other....
Pantheist333 2 years ago 3
Alex must nott know that there are Christians who are also into the occult.
I guess because I'm learning to do meditation and trance work, that I must be a Satanist -- who wants to rape little girls, murder millions, and take over the world. (smh)
There are so many ways to attack and discredit the Christian religion. I know of many, but I chose not to, out of respect for their faith -- but many Christians seem to lack that respect, because they openly bash people who are on a different path.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I do it only if i have a firm proof,i mean if they are hurting people,there are many *good* shamans,wiccans etc.but if you play whit darkness,darkness wil consume you,,Becuse Jesus loves them to.But he cant stand sin and witchcraft.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
As a believer I do not bash people who choose a different path. I do, however, pray for them that their eyes will be opened to the truth and the love of Jesus Christ. Anyone can be in a relationship with Jesus who but asks Him. Manmade religion has nothing to do with it. And if a believer is involved with the occult, I'd say they're relationship with Him has fallen to the wayside. God demands we flee such things.
tararisser 2 years ago
Yep,Jesus said over and over.The Acts is what Gods desire for the church is.
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
Tararisser,
You indirectly said that the path that I'm on is wrong or evil. If that's not what you were really trying to say, then you wouldn't have said that you hope that my eyes will be opened to truth.
That's the Christian way of 'kindly' saying what I believe is false.
Occult just means hidden.
1Corinthians 2:7- But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the HIDDEN wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
How come it's not wrong when Paul speaks of it? (smh)
Pantheist333 2 years ago
First, I don't use the term Christian to describe my beliefs. There are too many from all sorts of religions who do so and obviously not all are the same. I am a follower of Jesus, and that is not a religion. It's a relationship with Jesus.
If one's path does not lead to eternity with Him through acceptance of His gracious gift of eternal life through Salvation, considering the alternative, I'd say one's on the wrong path.
tararisser 2 years ago
We don't need "Salvation". We are already infinite, perfect beings.
When you buy into that idea that we are born sinners who need outside intervention to "achieve" eternal life, you have JUST GIVEN AWAY YOUR POWER.
And you thus become vulnerable to deception by something like the NWO.
These kind of exclusionist ideas in religion are a ready-made tool for NWO types to prey on people's minds.
Jesus's original message has been heavily distorted in the bible. You need to think for yourself.
Starbat88 2 years ago
It's not 'buying into an idea'. It's God's holy word. You either believe it or you don't. He says in John 14:6 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'. Because of Adam's first sin, we are all born with an evil nature that is against God. We all come into this world with a sinful nature. Psalm 51:5, Gen. 8:21, Job 14:4 refer to this. And again, having a relationship with Jesus Christ is not a religion. There is nothing manmade about it.
tararisser 2 years ago
Fine, I might be able to agree that having a relationship with Jesus Christ is not a religion.
However, take the word "Jesus Christ" out of that sentence, and replace it with, say, "cosmic consciousness" for example. You will get a sentence of equal value.
That's why you don't need to pray for people to "open their eyes" to Jesus, because it doesn't matter what name you attach to it.
Starbat88 2 years ago
God tells me in His word, as one of His followers, to pray for people to open their eyes and hearts to Him. Not to anything or anyone else. Your saying that it doesn't matter what name you attach to it is saying that He didn't die for us. I don't know what you think the definition of a follower of Jesus is, but you obviously don't have a clue. Regardless, I believe what I believe and nothing or no one will ever change that.
tararisser 2 years ago
The only way a person can change in their beliefs is through their own free will. I have no delusions of trying to change what you believe, necessarily.
However, I'm having a lot of trouble understanding where you are getting "the word of God", if not from the Bible.... which frankly, is nothing more than a document that, for all you know, could have been written by anyone.
And yeah, so he supposedly "died for our sins"... I never understood what that even meant; it makes virtually no sense.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Wow, so God died?
Man killed God?
This just keeps getting better and better.
tararisser, where is your time machine?
Because without it, not only can I not verify if the Jesus character ever existed, I cannot verify that he said he died for me either.
Get over yourself man, lol.
I'm not trying to change what you believe.
Christians seem to love to think that every non-Christian who debates with them is an agent of Satan trying to pull them away from "the faith".
I'm just asking questions.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Just asking questions with a side of sarcasm......lol. Oh well, you believe what you believe, and I believe what I believe. I'm a stubborn woman, but I recognize we're at an impasse. I pray, (yes Starbat88 I said pray) that you will open your heart and mind to His awesome gift of unconditional love, and eternity with Him after death.
tararisser 2 years ago
Tararisser,
We certainly are at an impasse. You speak of opening your heart and mind to things, and so one, and I am perfectly willing to accept that you are sincere in your position and mean no offence.
However, I don't understand why it needs to be "I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe, but you will go to hell" attitude.
If God IS love, then why is it that he can only be found in ONE document among the great many that have been written? Why not entirely within yourself?
Starbat88 2 years ago
That comment was for Pantheist333.
I don't mean any offence. There's just no other way to put it. I can't dance around God's truth. I'm sure for some it's unbelievable that people believe in it and Him, but we do. The Bible clearly shows us what a loving God He is. When Adam sinned, he blew it for all mankind as our representative. The only way to reconcile that was for God to send His Son to die for us, for our sins, so that through His grace we could be saved.
tararisser 2 years ago
The only reason you think we're born with sin is because 'the Bible says so'. And you have no reason to believe that it's "God's holy word" other than the fact that that's what you were taught from an early age. Just who are you REALLY listening to?
Starbat88 2 years ago
WORST INTERUPTION HE EVER DID.
erikthered9 2 years ago
My heart and my God. You obviously have no faith in Him or what He says. I do. Call me whatever you will, it doesn't matter. I believe God is who He says He is, and that He'll do what He say's He'll do. HE matters. It's as simple as that.
tararisser 2 years ago
"You obviously have no faith in Him or what He says" -tararisser
What did HE say?
If you are referring to the biblical narratives, then where is your proof that God said ANY of the words attributed to HIM/HER in that book?
I have faith.
I have faith that I don't need the bible whatsoever for me to have eternal life.
So since you have faith that the bible is "God's word", and I have faith that it isn't, one of us is wrong. What should that tell you? You can have faith and it not be true.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
I never called you anything. I am completely an advocate of people following whatever spiritual path they feel is right for them.
When I start to have a problem is when I run into Christians who have this attitude that their "faith" is the ONLY correct one. It's so arrogant and just breeds bigotry and groundless hatred.
Even if you are not one of those hateful Christians, you still seem to have that superior attitude that is at the root of it.
Religion divides people. Simple as that.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Your beef is with the Lord. I live by the Bible as well as I can.....I do have to pray daily about my sin....not perfect in any way shape or form. I believe in it and God 100%. So if I do, why is it so unbelievable that I'd pray for others to reach the same end I will or to stand up for my beliefs? Does that make me a jerk or something? Because I try to share this awesome opportunity with others I'm superior? I don't get it. If I was a jerk, I wouldn't share His truth at all.
tararisser 2 years ago
You're not getting me. I don't have a beef with the "lord".
I am a fairly enlightened person. I have a strong sense of morals and a strong feeling of spiritual connection, especially in recent years. And I accomplished this without "Faith in Jesus" as my foundation.
It's not right or wrong either way, but then I run into someone who fails to see basic goodness in people and instead focuses on whether I believe EXACTLY what they do.
You would still say "my eternity depends" on it.
Starbat88 2 years ago
LOL @ Starbat88
I know. I feel you.
"Your beef is with the Lord"
"I try to share this awesome opportunity"
"If I was a jerk, I wouldn't share His truth at all"
I truly believe that she (as well as many christians) has no idea that in the process of her boasting about how great her beliefs are, that she is simultaneously putting down the beliefs of others.
She continuously implies that what she believes is absolute truth, and if we don't believe the same that we are foolish and/or in error.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
No kidding. XD
If her 'faith' requires that I turn off my brain and just accept something at face value without ever questioning it, then she's right. I ABSOLUTELY cannot accept that.
Even if my authority was completely trustworthy I couldn't do that. The best teacher are the ones who encourage you to question and challenge everything. And if you don't then you are not a worthy student.
The fact that such Christians do accept these things is incredible only that it seems so foolish.
Starbat88 2 years ago
Tararisser,
"I am a follower of Jesus, and that is not a religion It's a relationship with Jesus."
So you have a relationship with a dead man (assuming that Jesus actually existed)?
That sounds pretty similar to Voodoo practitioners creating an ancestral shrine to commune with their dead relatives.
I'm assuming that you're going to say that Jesus died, but he resurrected and is alive. You weren't there to verify that -- so it's your belief. The definition of Religion is a set of beliefs.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
Again, I believe and accept God's word totally. That's called faith.
tararisser 2 years ago
"Again, I believe and accept God's word totally. That's called faith" - tararisser
And where can we find "God's word"?
Are you implying that what is written in the bible is "God's word", simply because the narrator wrote "God said"?
Please tell me that's not the extent of it -- because I can type/write some sentences and paragraphs write now and put "God said" before or after it. That does not mean that God ever said a word of it.
Pantheist333 2 years ago
You COULD do so, but one special perk of being a believer is the Holy Spirit. He gives me discernment to know the difference. Unbelievers don't understand this, but it's true. If you turn your life over to Christ someday, you'll discover it for yourself. This is why I share the gospel to others...........so that they can.
tararisser 2 years ago
"You COULD do so, but one special perk of being a believer is the Holy Spirit"
Oh, so you're POSSESSED? There is a spirit that was foreign to your body, that now lives on the inside of you, lol. That is possession my friend. How is that any different than what goes on in Voodoo, or any occult ritual of an invocation?
"Unbelievers don't understand this, but it's true"
First off, YOU are an unbeliever -- you don't believe what I believe.
Second, if "it's true", prove it to me, please. :)
Pantheist333 2 years ago