Marriage is to be only between a man and a woman, IF we allow them to be married, school will have to be teaching gay marriage and I don't think you want your son or daughter to be gay. Because teaching gay marriage, equates to a larger chance of gays which equates to jail showers being out of order forever. Have a nice day, Anti Tranny moderator, Laud, out.
@AntiTrannyLeague What the fuck? A larger chance of gays?? Let me tell you something, if someone is taught about gay marriage, it does nothing to them but give them knowlege of it, and possibly help figure themselves out. People turn out hetero and homo just the same, with or without that though. It's better for kids to know that it's ok if because unfair teasing and assault on gays and lesbians has to stop; it really is a problem.
Why care? Let two men or females get married. Its called MYOB i guess.Thats like saying only ladies can play sports and we cook. I have nothing wrong with gay marriage.
You go to another planet bitch, I am a straight women first of all and I have plenty of gay friends who I love dearly called this a Straight-Gay alliance.
retard as bitch, did you hear what the fuck I said, listen dumb motherfucker. If gays can't get marriage then straights shouldn't get marriage either, plan and simple. Damn can you comprehend bastard. Nasty bitch!
Kudos to the Negro and Mestizo voters of CA for helping to pass Prop 8. Of course, the faggots wouldnt dare go into those neighborhoods and protest, just the safe, White communities. Despite heavy fag lobbying, the people rejected faggotry
WHEREAS CSC is in contempt in re illegal denial for rehearing of CSC habeas petition S142192 and in re State hindrance of C07 01399 SBA USDC habeas motion, currently delinquent but unopposed in Oakland before Judge Armstrong, BILLS OF ATTAINDER are rampant, including the named ex post facto Prop.8. Violence has broken out, relative to the related undermining of Superior Court, and so, CPC 403 et seq. must be relieved, with habeas corpus in California, lest fatal estoppel. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
You are very smart and listen i like what you said before.
yea the reason gays cant have kids is because they werent supposed to in the first place.
And this country will be cursed if they allow gay rights in here any more then what they already have.I just cant picture my child seeing two men holding hands Its just disgusting
@jbaseballdream Just because you think it's disgusting doesn't mean it is. And gays/lesbians can totally have kids, it's not like they're infertile; that's just not a good argument.
Every single professional psychologist has claimed that homosexuality is normal. And I didn't say "google", I said the video you should view is right here on good old YouTube! Again, for the learning impaired, such as you, the title is "Middle Sexes - Experiment on Homophobia". I have a feeling you won't view it because the truth when exposed to the light, makes roaches run and hide!
Are you serious? I meant what 2 CONSENTING ADULTS do in the privacy of their home is no one's business. Lastly, why are you so hateful against gays? I think you should check out a YouTube video entitled "Middle Sexes - Experiment on Homophobia". You may see yourself in that video dude!
Immorality? Who says? Born-again Christians? What 2 people do in the privacy of their homes that doesn't hurt ANYONE is not immoral, you idiot! Strap-on? A majority of lesbians don't even use them! You are showing how ignorant about gays you truly are! Homosexuals don't reproduce, and neither do heterosexuals who are too old, or who don't want children because they have the FREEDOM not to! Keep trying... your stupidity keeps rising to the top! LOL
Who's talking about butt sex you stupid idiot! That's why this country is fucked up, because of people like you. I suppose lesbians have butt sex... oh, and ALL gay men have butt sex? Oh, another interesting point, I bet you also think NO straight people have butt sex? LOL What a fucking moron you are!!!
NO dude. You've got it completely opposite. It was the people like you that would've been in the KKK or Nazi party in Germany if you had been born in those days. America stands for FREEDOM which ALL Americans deserve, not just white, straight, Christian Americans! PWNED
Well, that's ok... the knuckle-walkers like you in California will go down in American History as homophobes. But have no fear idiot, 5 states permit gay marriage with more on the way.
Sorry, I just got a little angry at that snot nose straight boy who wants to remain feeling superior to gays. Unless, of course, he's hiding deep in the closet and overcompensating for his "straightness" LOL>
you guys try to point out that gay people have to argument for same sex marriage yet i haven't heard a single reasonable argument against it.
i dont see why same sex marriage is not possible. after all marriage is the legal union of two people. the only reason people want to call it something different is to try to separate gay and straight marriages. separate isn't equal.
why should marriage be for only a man and a woman? didn't learn segregation is wrong from the last time you tried it?
Gay Marriage is like trying to stick a Round peg in a Square hole. No matter how much you argue it just is not compatible.
If gays want to have sex then so be it, but marriage is just incompatible. Unfortunately the only argument that homosexuals seem to come up with leans heavily on either criticizing religious groups, immature name calling (How many times have we heard bigot or homophobe?), or the futile attempt of labeling marriage as a civil right.
What do you mean by `no matter how much you argue it just is not compatible`?
Its not compatible in your mind and I accept that but dont describe how other should live their life because your life differs from other peoples lives.
Whoopy Goldberg says it best. If you dont want gays to marry then dont you marry a gay person. Simple as that.
Notice how I didnt call you any bad names, so you dont generalize again saying how `homosexuals` use name calling as a weapon.
How am I decribing how other should live their lives. I am not attacking homosexuals or their behavior. I am simply saying that marriage between two men or two women is incompatible and not possible.
A civil union is fine with all the benefits of marriage, and I have no problem with that. One can make up an institution to accommodate but you cannot redefine an institution like marriage.
Not offense, but Whoopi Goldberg is an actress and I do not take what she says as gospel.
Learn what you're talking about before you open your mouth. Civil unions do not even come close to granting the same privileges, rights, and benefits that come with civil marriage. It's idiotic people like you, who have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, that make America the dumbest country in the world.
@PlutoniusX Ok, well civil unions with all the benefits of marriage (which they don't have) are just marriage but under a different title, so I don't see what's wrong with changing that title to "marriage", especially when that's so important to some people.
It is a civil right. You do not go to a church to get a civil marriage license, you go to City Hall. Learn the subject matter before you open your mouth and look like an idiot.
No gay marriage, no adoption of babies and children. Bad for gays, but good for heterosexual parents, who have - by the millions - had their babies and children ripped from them by that satanic gang of criminals known as CPS (aka Child Protective Services).
This to me is a non-issue. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words..."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance for all human life:)
Marriage is man and woman only. Makes me sick to see this going on America and homosexuality is behavioral and they need help if they can change them self's to man or woman then the can be healed and stay what they were born. Also the kids need a mom and dad not other way around man and man sick. Nature never what'd this!
@111110001 Homosexuality is an orinetation that has been shown to be a variety of things from hormonal developments as a fetus to unidentified environmental influences. How do you know what nature wanted? Did you know that over 400 species of animals have homosexual sex and many even form very long homosexual bonds! Homosexuality is completely natural and is an orientation just like heterosexuality is an orientation, they are equal. How is it sick?
who the fuck cares?why is this illegal in some states?why is this news, and how is this a christian issue? muslims don't believe in gay marriage, but look at all the differences between muslims and christians-since when do these religious freaks define marriage?let these people be happy (or miserable) like the rest of us...i so don't give a shit...i'm tired of the news and politicians and everyone arguing over this bullshit..there are people dying all over the world- why am i subjected to this??
@CocoaLuv22 I know! It's just religious bigots think their bible should define other people's lives, which should never be condoned! People need to learn how to keep their own faith but not force it upon others. It just sucks for everybody.
Mangina9000, your remark that someone's input was "...fucking retarded..." ironically falls into a less-than-enlightened choice of words in itself, my friend. There is another fairly substantial marginalized category of people who might object to the expression, "fucking retarded" as you have expressed it here. Your suggestion that someone is being "insensitive" might go further if you didn't slam another portion of our society in the process. Just a thought.
I support the right for gays to do whatever the hell that straight people do and take for granted (like get married and then dump your children into a living hell called Divorce), but making the analogy as upper class gay men being "freed slaves in a slave state" is not going to win any hearts and minds.
That was fucking retarded and insensitive. All that was missing was calling AIDS the new Holocaust! I get a little tired of the self-righteousness in the so-called "gay community."
@soslinio No, just gays. Animals cannot give consent and are not given human rights in the constitution. Incest is harmful and not even an orientation. See how I mentioned the constitution? Those things might be grouped together in leviticus, but not anywhere else. These are all seperate, and our laws and rights should not depend on 1 religion out of the many that are practiced in the US.
Everyone should have the right to be just as miserable as every other married straight couple out there. Who the hell cares who marries who- you could marry an monkey if you could prove that the monkey wants to marry you back in my eyes.
Seriously, there are sooo many more pressing things to worry & get your panties in a bunch about.
Ah, Prop 8 supporters show their true face: See, It has never been about marriage -- the proposition is the closest that opponents of homosexuality ITSELF can get to legislating AGAINST homosexuality, and, news flash, THAT will NEVER HAPPEN. The tide has turned. Remember this: WHATEVER YOU HATE WILL END UP IN YOUR FAMILY. So get ready, tradernorton01. If it's not a gay kid, you'll have a gay nephew or grandkid. Go ahead and tell your own flesh and blood that you want him exterminated.
We are a country of LAWS and NOT of MEN. The Court was right to recognize that THEY have ZERO power and that the PEOPLE decided this. No matter what your opinion is. We live in a land where these things are decided by the people. The Court is in error though, in granting validity to the 18,000 marriages that took place because the Court undermined the will of the people and made law when they had no authority to begin with.
@myviews1 Well, not a gene, but there is evidence of hormones in the fetal development stage that can influence it, as well as environmental influences. Either way, how can homosexuals choose how the environment affects them, or what happened in the womb? And what results from this is an orientation exactly like heterosexuality except the opposite, it can't be merely behavioral. You're not just going to start having sex with the same sex if you weren't attracted to them in the first place.
"Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. It is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different moral values and standards of a particular culture." Statement on Homosexuality, American Psychological Association, 1994-JUL. "
Cry all you want homos! Normal people will never vote in favor of allowing your kind to rewright the bible, the qoran, or any other book of faith. Wish for civil unions & be happy! Marriage belongs to men & women, not homos.
Well you can live in your dream world all you want. Again numbers are not on your side. Almost 50% of Americans support gay marriage. And most the ones that dont are seniors. You people tried to stop women from voting and failed. You tried to stop blacks from getting all their rights and failed. Your 0-2. Things dont look good for you.
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Bullshit! Most people worldwide do not support gay agendas in any way. Get your facts straight. Young & old alike. Gays don't need any extra rights. They already have the same rights as everyone else. Noone has the right to impose their social agenda on any religion. So, therefor gays already have the same rights as everyone else.
@Dedhedted71 And, religious agendas should not be pushed either. The thing is, civil unions don't even give us the same benefits as marriage does, in some places (I don't beleive anywhere in the US, though) they do, but what if you want to call it marriage? You can't marry, but you can enter into a civil union. You can't sit here, you can sit there. That's what it feels like. Seperate but equal isn't fair.
They are the ones fighting to be recognized by those who support those books. So, maybee they should just stop crying & settle for civil unions ay? That was the point.
Yeah do what the Muslims do-if you are gay they cut off your head! Now sing it-"God hates fags....God hates fags.." Now where is Shirley Phelps when you need her the most!
@Dedhedted71 Normal people? Who says gays are trying to rewrite the bible? Most of us don't even CARE about the bible! You can believe what you want! What I'm saying is that civil rights should not be written by religion.
@Izlandzadi14 The law should just stay out of it! If there is a church willing to do the ceremony & sanction the marriage then so be it! It is between the couple, the church, & God. Gov't should stay the hell out of it!
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Why do gays/lesbians always have to march and protest and make sure they lay their views into our television sets? why can't they just do their thing quietly and off camera? i don't go marching in the street announcing my hetero status.they want to get married so they can adopt kids which is wrong according to the bible. i now pronounce you man and man! see how weird that sounds? good lord willing and the creek don't rise!
what an idiot. "i don't go marching in the street announcing my hetero status." BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE MAJORITY. Please put your comments through a Stupidity Filter before typing.
The institution of marriage? Uh, see there is the problem. The government should not be institutionalizing a religious ceremony to begin with. All it does is cause rampant civil inequality. I'd rather the government reformed the institutionalized form of marriage to become a binding contract between two people without any religious pretext. Then let the various religions themselves decide how they are going to handle things in their own churches.
Because God has a habit of sending *nothing* but unrealiable humans to convey it. If God feels like showing up to speak his own piece... then people would listen. Until then... God has no place in politics.
There is religous and civil marriage. One is conducted the church and the other is conducted by the state. Did you ever wonder that they were just trying to marry one way or another
its A matter of choice!!! Like being heterosexual is a choice. If you had done the research you wouldve posted the link to prove it. But on the end its a matter of choice. People thought the same back when there was racial inequality, where most thought where a white man and black woman (or vice versa) that they were nuts according to most. It cant be a PROVEN FACT BECAUSE PRECEDENTS AND HISTORY DISPROVE IT
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Stupid fags, this defeats the purpose of the voting system, Why have a voting system so when you dont win, you protest to have it your way. California has voted, no gay marrage! Deal with it.
So why the hell do we have a voting system then? You cant please everyone. California has spoken. You people didn't win this time, maybe next time in the next few years.
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The people of California have spoken.You people should never have been allowed to get married in the first place.Now shut the fuck up and go back in the closet you fucking freaks.
Coments like yours scare me and make me freak out when I think that this is supposed to be one of the most advanced societies on the planet. I'm affraid that when it comes to ethics and values, some areas in the States are stil in the middle ages.
And before you start insulting me I am absolutely not concerned by any gay marriage ban, not being either gay nor from California.
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When Sarah Palin becomes President, she will PERMANENTLY ABOLISH Gay Marriage and ALL Gay Unions and Domestic partnerships. She will mandate a program for all homos to go to so they can change into straight heteros!
These camps already exist. They are called public schools and they have a whole indoctrination program forced upon the children teaching them how wonderful it is to be homosexual. They have thought control programs where you cannot have a different opinion or you are called a homophobe. I think they are working on sewing a red triangle on their clothes to identify these people who think differently!
No exageration whatsoever of course... Wonderful is the right word when it comes to defining the experience of people who are forced to hide and not allowed to visit the person they love in hospital. I somehow hesitate to believe schools would teach such truths. Have teachers not refuted those arguments anyway?
I think the hospitals you are talking about are in the concentration camps. I have NEVER had a problem visiting a person in a hospital. Come on, this is a cheap sentimental argument that applies in extremely rare emergency cases. Anyone can get a waver from another to arrange such visits.
It's good to be exchanging words with someone who does not use f***** ever two or three sentenses. Thank you for that! Now, even if it is in rare cases, I am absolutely against the concept that some people should have different rights! Internationally, this whole story is going down really bad!
Yes, it is good to have a civlliized debate. Thank you for that as well.
However, I do disagree. We are not talking about different rights for the same people. We are talking about giving the privileges of marriage upon people who are not biologically capable of receiving them. Apples and oranges.
As for the international scene, we should not take our cues from other nations, but on what is right. What others think has always been the argument of those without principles.
now that the silliness is out of the way, it's a shame that they need to got through this. but i must say that if the had mobilized sooner, this may never have been a necessity
Gay is wrong. I heard a republican say that you can pray the gay away.
Twoodssax1234567 6 months ago
fags.
ilusq 1 year ago
Marriage is to be only between a man and a woman, IF we allow them to be married, school will have to be teaching gay marriage and I don't think you want your son or daughter to be gay. Because teaching gay marriage, equates to a larger chance of gays which equates to jail showers being out of order forever. Have a nice day, Anti Tranny moderator, Laud, out.
AntiTrannyLeague 1 year ago
@AntiTrannyLeague What the fuck? A larger chance of gays?? Let me tell you something, if someone is taught about gay marriage, it does nothing to them but give them knowlege of it, and possibly help figure themselves out. People turn out hetero and homo just the same, with or without that though. It's better for kids to know that it's ok if because unfair teasing and assault on gays and lesbians has to stop; it really is a problem.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
this is soo disgusting they should've been sprayed with tear gass and forced to go home.. freaks animals
blubberman911 1 year ago
@blubberman911 Isn't that basically what happened to blacks? >:( Oh, they were also called animals and barbarians.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
stfu you stupid fagots
blubberman911 1 year ago
Why care? Let two men or females get married. Its called MYOB i guess.Thats like saying only ladies can play sports and we cook. I have nothing wrong with gay marriage.
semiwow21 1 year ago 2
Why do they want marriage? Love's natural, marriage is man-made.
tyrone199 1 year ago
@tyrone199 Why do straights want marriage?
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
@ 2:02
"marriage equality for all"
equality for pedos and sick bestiality freaks too.
that sounds so stupid jerk.
No gay marriage!!
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
No straight marriage, and fuck Trance bitch ass homophobic whore.
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
no gay marriage :)
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
No Straight Marriage
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
no GAY marriage!
send all gays on jupiter
and all lesbians on pluto
after 100 years no more gays earth no more gay marriages.
finally cure for sickness ! check out no gay marriage song
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=mLdN0qE-Gp4
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
Kill Trance8Techno8Lover, people like you doesn't need to breath the same air as gay people. Bad nasty homophobe!
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
then leave us alone go reside in another planet. XD
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
You go to another planet bitch, I am a straight women first of all and I have plenty of gay friends who I love dearly called this a Straight-Gay alliance.
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
dont lie! you cant be straight or you wont be saying "no straight marriage
so i guess wont u marry then ? and if you dont want to marry then ur saying other straight people maybe ur sister or ur brother shouldnt get married ?
you sound like a hypocrite when ur trying to stand for gay and equal rights but no to straights.
i think you are one sick mentally ill lesbian with serious fucked up issues.
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
whatever bitch, it doesn't matter anyway, if gays can't get marry then straights shouldn't get married either. you the fucking psycho ill bitch
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
then you dont get married, thats all.
.. Oh ! am i forgetting? ur a sick lesbo go lick on a clit.
Equal rights u say ?
how can u say that "equal rights" when ur saying "no straight marriage" but yes to gay marriage!
Dont u think u sound so hypocrite ?
Think about it.
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
retard as bitch, did you hear what the fuck I said, listen dumb motherfucker. If gays can't get marriage then straights shouldn't get marriage either, plan and simple. Damn can you comprehend bastard. Nasty bitch!
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
ummm if gays cant produce children so starlights shouldnt Produce children too.. ?
how does that sound ?
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
What does that how to do with marriage, how that sound?
uraine7626 2 years ago
@Trance8Techno8Lover
i mean *straights
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
@Trance8Techno8Lover Those things are completelyy different, let me guess, are you religious?
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
0:16 look at those "disordered freaks of nature"
LMFAO
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
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uraine7626 2 years ago
California should ban straight marriage also.
uraine7626 2 years ago
@uraine7626
wtf ??
you're a hetrophope right ??
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
nope, jerk just see as it just being equal; if you can vote on gay marriage, people should be voting on straight marriage as well.
uraine7626 2 years ago
Kudos to the Negro and Mestizo voters of CA for helping to pass Prop 8. Of course, the faggots wouldnt dare go into those neighborhoods and protest, just the safe, White communities. Despite heavy fag lobbying, the people rejected faggotry
worblfloss 2 years ago
WHEREAS CSC is in contempt in re illegal denial for rehearing of CSC habeas petition S142192 and in re State hindrance of C07 01399 SBA USDC habeas motion, currently delinquent but unopposed in Oakland before Judge Armstrong, BILLS OF ATTAINDER are rampant, including the named ex post facto Prop.8. Violence has broken out, relative to the related undermining of Superior Court, and so, CPC 403 et seq. must be relieved, with habeas corpus in California, lest fatal estoppel. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
bobgnote1 2 years ago
It's sad that one section of people would tell another how it's best for them to make a lifelong commitment.
Or that people have forgotten that we came to america to escape religious intolerance.
BrandonHarami 2 years ago
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We'll take this up when I'm back from my Acq' baha pilgrimage in Mecca. (I'll bring you back a goat with a tight anus.)
capon33 2 years ago
You are very smart and listen i like what you said before.
yea the reason gays cant have kids is because they werent supposed to in the first place.
And this country will be cursed if they allow gay rights in here any more then what they already have.I just cant picture my child seeing two men holding hands Its just disgusting
jbaseballdream 2 years ago
@jbaseballdream Just because you think it's disgusting doesn't mean it is. And gays/lesbians can totally have kids, it's not like they're infertile; that's just not a good argument.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
Every single professional psychologist has claimed that homosexuality is normal. And I didn't say "google", I said the video you should view is right here on good old YouTube! Again, for the learning impaired, such as you, the title is "Middle Sexes - Experiment on Homophobia". I have a feeling you won't view it because the truth when exposed to the light, makes roaches run and hide!
philip0460 2 years ago
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Are you serious? I meant what 2 CONSENTING ADULTS do in the privacy of their home is no one's business. Lastly, why are you so hateful against gays? I think you should check out a YouTube video entitled "Middle Sexes - Experiment on Homophobia". You may see yourself in that video dude!
philip0460 2 years ago
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philip0460 2 years ago
Immorality? Who says? Born-again Christians? What 2 people do in the privacy of their homes that doesn't hurt ANYONE is not immoral, you idiot! Strap-on? A majority of lesbians don't even use them! You are showing how ignorant about gays you truly are! Homosexuals don't reproduce, and neither do heterosexuals who are too old, or who don't want children because they have the FREEDOM not to! Keep trying... your stupidity keeps rising to the top! LOL
philip0460 2 years ago
Who's talking about butt sex you stupid idiot! That's why this country is fucked up, because of people like you. I suppose lesbians have butt sex... oh, and ALL gay men have butt sex? Oh, another interesting point, I bet you also think NO straight people have butt sex? LOL What a fucking moron you are!!!
philip0460 2 years ago
NO dude. You've got it completely opposite. It was the people like you that would've been in the KKK or Nazi party in Germany if you had been born in those days. America stands for FREEDOM which ALL Americans deserve, not just white, straight, Christian Americans! PWNED
philip0460 2 years ago
Well, that's ok... the knuckle-walkers like you in California will go down in American History as homophobes. But have no fear idiot, 5 states permit gay marriage with more on the way.
philip0460 2 years ago
What happened to America being the Land of the Free?
Obetue 2 years ago 2
Only applies to white, male, straight, christian, middle to upper class people.
KoreanBlues 2 years ago 3
Figured as much ^-^
Obetue 2 years ago
and it's not just white, you have to be like British white or Romance Catholic white. If you're Spanish, you get nothing.
KoreanBlues 2 years ago
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its simple kill all faggots and then u wont have more faggots..they made headfirst gays live its there prob
aqworldsflag 2 years ago
But then you'd go to jail and the "faggots" would be replaced by new ones in about 18 years.
bearchewtoy75 2 years ago
Don't even reply to such an idiotic person. He may just enjoy being in jail LOL
philip0460 2 years ago
Insert dropping soap joke here
bearchewtoy75 2 years ago
Sorry, I just got a little angry at that snot nose straight boy who wants to remain feeling superior to gays. Unless, of course, he's hiding deep in the closet and overcompensating for his "straightness" LOL>
philip0460 2 years ago
@aqworldsflag
ha ha , lets send them to jupiter where will they be crying and finally dead without any kids.
Trance8Techno8Lover 2 years ago
Love it how there's no one at the Pro-Prop 8 gathering.
They will lose in 2010 mark my words.
stefanheikel 2 years ago
lol, 2:02, "WTF!!"
EpidemickFTW 2 years ago
man thats gay....
dipmodesquad 2 years ago
Only in America. Did someone say land of the free?
wiresinlove 2 years ago
you guys try to point out that gay people have to argument for same sex marriage yet i haven't heard a single reasonable argument against it.
i dont see why same sex marriage is not possible. after all marriage is the legal union of two people. the only reason people want to call it something different is to try to separate gay and straight marriages. separate isn't equal.
why should marriage be for only a man and a woman? didn't learn segregation is wrong from the last time you tried it?
Ravagad 2 years ago
Gay Marriage is like trying to stick a Round peg in a Square hole. No matter how much you argue it just is not compatible.
If gays want to have sex then so be it, but marriage is just incompatible. Unfortunately the only argument that homosexuals seem to come up with leans heavily on either criticizing religious groups, immature name calling (How many times have we heard bigot or homophobe?), or the futile attempt of labeling marriage as a civil right.
PlutoniusX 2 years ago
What do you mean by `no matter how much you argue it just is not compatible`?
Its not compatible in your mind and I accept that but dont describe how other should live their life because your life differs from other peoples lives.
Whoopy Goldberg says it best. If you dont want gays to marry then dont you marry a gay person. Simple as that.
Notice how I didnt call you any bad names, so you dont generalize again saying how `homosexuals` use name calling as a weapon.
xorezo 2 years ago
How am I decribing how other should live their lives. I am not attacking homosexuals or their behavior. I am simply saying that marriage between two men or two women is incompatible and not possible.
A civil union is fine with all the benefits of marriage, and I have no problem with that. One can make up an institution to accommodate but you cannot redefine an institution like marriage.
Not offense, but Whoopi Goldberg is an actress and I do not take what she says as gospel.
PlutoniusX 2 years ago
If its not possible then how come 10 % of the states have it and 5 more before yrs end at the very least?
Clemburke1111 2 years ago
Learn what you're talking about before you open your mouth. Civil unions do not even come close to granting the same privileges, rights, and benefits that come with civil marriage. It's idiotic people like you, who have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, that make America the dumbest country in the world.
BigOhEveryTime 2 years ago
@PlutoniusX Ok, well civil unions with all the benefits of marriage (which they don't have) are just marriage but under a different title, so I don't see what's wrong with changing that title to "marriage", especially when that's so important to some people.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
It is a civil right. You do not go to a church to get a civil marriage license, you go to City Hall. Learn the subject matter before you open your mouth and look like an idiot.
BigOhEveryTime 2 years ago
No gay marriage, no adoption of babies and children. Bad for gays, but good for heterosexual parents, who have - by the millions - had their babies and children ripped from them by that satanic gang of criminals known as CPS (aka Child Protective Services).
CPSSucks 2 years ago
I find his analogy interesting: "We're freed slaves in a slave state."
Ironic how some people consider marriage slavery, while for these guys, it is just the opposite.
Crazy world.
CROCODlLE 2 years ago
This to me is a non-issue. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words..."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance for all human life:)
StephanieKansas 2 years ago
i wonder how it feels to rape lesbian and kill.
victoryofnanking 2 years ago
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S197V6TT 2 years ago
Marriage is man and woman only. Makes me sick to see this going on America and homosexuality is behavioral and they need help if they can change them self's to man or woman then the can be healed and stay what they were born. Also the kids need a mom and dad not other way around man and man sick. Nature never what'd this!
111110001 2 years ago
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S197V6TT 2 years ago
@111110001 Homosexuality is an orinetation that has been shown to be a variety of things from hormonal developments as a fetus to unidentified environmental influences. How do you know what nature wanted? Did you know that over 400 species of animals have homosexual sex and many even form very long homosexual bonds! Homosexuality is completely natural and is an orientation just like heterosexuality is an orientation, they are equal. How is it sick?
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
who the fuck cares?why is this illegal in some states?why is this news, and how is this a christian issue? muslims don't believe in gay marriage, but look at all the differences between muslims and christians-since when do these religious freaks define marriage?let these people be happy (or miserable) like the rest of us...i so don't give a shit...i'm tired of the news and politicians and everyone arguing over this bullshit..there are people dying all over the world- why am i subjected to this??
CocoaLuv22 2 years ago
@CocoaLuv22 I know! It's just religious bigots think their bible should define other people's lives, which should never be condoned! People need to learn how to keep their own faith but not force it upon others. It just sucks for everybody.
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S197V6TT 2 years ago
Speaking of "...insensitive,"
Mangina9000, your remark that someone's input was "...fucking retarded..." ironically falls into a less-than-enlightened choice of words in itself, my friend. There is another fairly substantial marginalized category of people who might object to the expression, "fucking retarded" as you have expressed it here. Your suggestion that someone is being "insensitive" might go further if you didn't slam another portion of our society in the process. Just a thought.
MrJayborn 2 years ago
I support the right for gays to do whatever the hell that straight people do and take for granted (like get married and then dump your children into a living hell called Divorce), but making the analogy as upper class gay men being "freed slaves in a slave state" is not going to win any hearts and minds.
That was fucking retarded and insensitive. All that was missing was calling AIDS the new Holocaust! I get a little tired of the self-righteousness in the so-called "gay community."
Mangina9000 2 years ago
Animals. Multiple partners. Property or possessions. Family members.
It's all fair game right? Marriage.
WRONG.
1 man and 1 woman in America.
soslinio 2 years ago
@soslinio No, just gays. Animals cannot give consent and are not given human rights in the constitution. Incest is harmful and not even an orientation. See how I mentioned the constitution? Those things might be grouped together in leviticus, but not anywhere else. These are all seperate, and our laws and rights should not depend on 1 religion out of the many that are practiced in the US.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
Everyone should have the right to be just as miserable as every other married straight couple out there. Who the hell cares who marries who- you could marry an monkey if you could prove that the monkey wants to marry you back in my eyes.
Seriously, there are sooo many more pressing things to worry & get your panties in a bunch about.
allyne82 2 years ago
Ah, Prop 8 supporters show their true face: See, It has never been about marriage -- the proposition is the closest that opponents of homosexuality ITSELF can get to legislating AGAINST homosexuality, and, news flash, THAT will NEVER HAPPEN. The tide has turned. Remember this: WHATEVER YOU HATE WILL END UP IN YOUR FAMILY. So get ready, tradernorton01. If it's not a gay kid, you'll have a gay nephew or grandkid. Go ahead and tell your own flesh and blood that you want him exterminated.
RobMillerNow 2 years ago
I want to marry a goat with a long beard.
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
wats with the rainbows?
3star2nr 2 years ago
We are a country of LAWS and NOT of MEN. The Court was right to recognize that THEY have ZERO power and that the PEOPLE decided this. No matter what your opinion is. We live in a land where these things are decided by the people. The Court is in error though, in granting validity to the 18,000 marriages that took place because the Court undermined the will of the people and made law when they had no authority to begin with.
soslinio 2 years ago
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Marriage is between a man and a woman. Let the California people's choice stand.
myviews1 2 years ago
Women should not be allowed to vote. Let the people's choice stand.
Marriage is only for same race couples. Let the people's choice stand.
Sorry, but majority vote should not be able to remove someone's civil rights.
Faustuss1 2 years ago
You cannot equate race and sex to homosexuality. These are permanent traits that cannot be changed.
Homosexuality is behavioral...unless you believe the bogus pop-science argument that there is a homosexual "gene."
There is no homosexual "gene." There is no scientific proof for this.
myviews1 2 years ago
Whether there is a homosexual gene or not makes no difference. This is an entirely different discussion.
Sexuality is not a choice - this is recognized by virtually every major health and mental health organization.
Tell me, what day did you wake up and consciously choose to be straight?
Faustuss1 2 years ago
If it is not a choice, what is it?
Are they born that way? If you are born that way, then it must be genetic...
Stop avoiding the question.
myviews1 2 years ago
@myviews1 Well, not a gene, but there is evidence of hormones in the fetal development stage that can influence it, as well as environmental influences. Either way, how can homosexuals choose how the environment affects them, or what happened in the womb? And what results from this is an orientation exactly like heterosexuality except the opposite, it can't be merely behavioral. You're not just going to start having sex with the same sex if you weren't attracted to them in the first place.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
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If you're a man with male hormones, male genitals, male traits and such, then you must be a MAN!
Those people who rant about 'being a woman inside a man's body' have mental/health disorder.
It's a proven FACT not a choice. Do some reaserch!
Nihawmah 2 years ago
"Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. It is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different moral values and standards of a particular culture." Statement on Homosexuality, American Psychological Association, 1994-JUL. "
Yes, do some research.
isakk21 2 years ago
That's just illogical,
now you're "copy and paste" facts you barely apprehended.
Please read beyond the referred date.
It's still considered as a mental disorder even to the US pentagon.
The only reason why they took it off the list of APA/ DSM is b/c of moral values and the change to view homosexualty.
In other words, we want to show SYMPATHY!!!!!
Again, DO SOME RESEARCH.
Nihawmah 2 years ago
Thursday, November 16, 2006
Pentagon Changes Listing of Homosexuality as Mental Illness
Also, virtually every major health and mental health organization do not classify homosexuality as a mental disorder.
Faustuss1 2 years ago
For ever study you present, there are just as many out there that contradict what is being said....
PEOPLE decide what takes place. Not courts and activists.
LAWS.
soslinio 2 years ago
@Nihawmah Umm...you know that's being transsexual, right? That has nothing to do with being gay.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
Did you know most blacks and hispanics are AGAINST gay marriage-now *they* scream about discrimination all the time-yet they practice it. 100% fact.
WinterHaven 2 years ago 4
Where is Shirley Phelps? Now THAT would be priceless! -you know the "God Hates Fags" church. Now THAT I would love to see! :-)
WinterHaven 2 years ago
Just wait until Christians inevitably become a minority. Stuff like Prop 8 will come back to bite them with a vengeance.
ImTheRiffRaff 2 years ago
Cry all you want homos! Normal people will never vote in favor of allowing your kind to rewright the bible, the qoran, or any other book of faith. Wish for civil unions & be happy! Marriage belongs to men & women, not homos.
Dedhedted71 2 years ago
Well its going to suck to be you. The vast majority of young people support gay marriage. There going to get it anyways numbers are not on your side.
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Keep dreaming. Just like Parez Hilton got put in his place, so will the rest.
Dedhedted71 2 years ago
Well you can live in your dream world all you want. Again numbers are not on your side. Almost 50% of Americans support gay marriage. And most the ones that dont are seniors. You people tried to stop women from voting and failed. You tried to stop blacks from getting all their rights and failed. Your 0-2. Things dont look good for you.
warcraft1920 2 years ago 3
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Bullshit! Most people worldwide do not support gay agendas in any way. Get your facts straight. Young & old alike. Gays don't need any extra rights. They already have the same rights as everyone else. Noone has the right to impose their social agenda on any religion. So, therefor gays already have the same rights as everyone else.
Dedhedted71 2 years ago
@Dedhedted71 And, religious agendas should not be pushed either. The thing is, civil unions don't even give us the same benefits as marriage does, in some places (I don't beleive anywhere in the US, though) they do, but what if you want to call it marriage? You can't marry, but you can enter into a civil union. You can't sit here, you can sit there. That's what it feels like. Seperate but equal isn't fair.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
Why bother rewriting those books? Throw them in the trash where they belong!
jufu999 2 years ago
They are the ones fighting to be recognized by those who support those books. So, maybee they should just stop crying & settle for civil unions ay? That was the point.
Dedhedted71 2 years ago
Yeah do what the Muslims do-if you are gay they cut off your head! Now sing it-"God hates fags....God hates fags.." Now where is Shirley Phelps when you need her the most!
WinterHaven 2 years ago
@Dedhedted71 Normal people? Who says gays are trying to rewrite the bible? Most of us don't even CARE about the bible! You can believe what you want! What I'm saying is that civil rights should not be written by religion.
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
@Izlandzadi14 The law should just stay out of it! If there is a church willing to do the ceremony & sanction the marriage then so be it! It is between the couple, the church, & God. Gov't should stay the hell out of it!
Dedhedted71 7 months ago
@Dedhedted71 That is probably the best choice
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
this is gay.
enuvune 2 years ago
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Why do gays/lesbians always have to march and protest and make sure they lay their views into our television sets? why can't they just do their thing quietly and off camera? i don't go marching in the street announcing my hetero status.they want to get married so they can adopt kids which is wrong according to the bible. i now pronounce you man and man! see how weird that sounds? good lord willing and the creek don't rise!
yellowgroove 2 years ago
"why can't they just do their thing quietly and off camera?"
You could say the same thing about Christians. Why can't they just live their own lives and stop interfering with everyone else's?
ImTheRiffRaff 2 years ago
Indeed. If anyone should be shunned and forced into a closet, it's the religious nuts.
jufu999 2 years ago
what an idiot. "i don't go marching in the street announcing my hetero status." BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE MAJORITY. Please put your comments through a Stupidity Filter before typing.
RobMillerNow 2 years ago 2
"why can't they just do their thing quietly.."
The same reason martin luther king didn't just do his thing quietly off camera. Change does not occur this way.
"so they can adopt kids"
Marriage has many benefits, this is not the only reason.
"which is wrong according to the bible."
The U.S is not a Christian theocracy, what's wrong according to the bible means nothing.
Faustuss1 2 years ago 2
It's proven that being gay is not actually
a choice but more like a mental disorder.
Nihawmah 2 years ago
i hope your gay kid or sibling or grandkid or niece or nephew agrees, cause you're gonna have one soon.
RobMillerNow 2 years ago
The institution of marriage? Uh, see there is the problem. The government should not be institutionalizing a religious ceremony to begin with. All it does is cause rampant civil inequality. I'd rather the government reformed the institutionalized form of marriage to become a binding contract between two people without any religious pretext. Then let the various religions themselves decide how they are going to handle things in their own churches.
Tylatz 2 years ago
why are people going against Gods word? then to marry in Gods home in G ods face,when he is not in sodomites favor he says they should die.
angelbaby443031969 2 years ago
"why are people going against Gods word"
Because God has a habit of sending *nothing* but unrealiable humans to convey it. If God feels like showing up to speak his own piece... then people would listen. Until then... God has no place in politics.
mkarnerfors 2 years ago 3
There is religous and civil marriage. One is conducted the church and the other is conducted by the state. Did you ever wonder that they were just trying to marry one way or another
herndon5 2 years ago
REPEAL THE DOMA!!!!!!!!!
herndon5 2 years ago
The whole issue is bull shit.
The state shouldn't be involved in marriage. This could be handled entirely by private ceremonies, contracts, and covenants.
People don't need the state telling them who and how people are intimately joined to them and their assets.
KosmicCitizen 2 years ago
It's proven that being gay is not actually a choice but more like a mental disease.
Nihawmah 2 years ago
Yeah by a reference by wikipedia or something else as faulty as that
herndon5 2 years ago
keep reading cause obviously you're being ignorant.
Nihawmah 2 years ago
so the pot is calling the kettle the black. You are the one being ignorant to homosexuals right to marry
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Nihawmah 2 years ago
Do you notice how obscure your comments are?
Look, if you're a man with male hormones, male genitals, male traits and such, then you must be a MAN! and same point goes to women.
If these are still difficult to apprened, those people who rant about 'being a woman inside a man's body' have mental/health disorder.
It's a proven FACT not a choice. Do some reaserch!
Nihawmah 2 years ago
its A matter of choice!!! Like being heterosexual is a choice. If you had done the research you wouldve posted the link to prove it. But on the end its a matter of choice. People thought the same back when there was racial inequality, where most thought where a white man and black woman (or vice versa) that they were nuts according to most. It cant be a PROVEN FACT BECAUSE PRECEDENTS AND HISTORY DISPROVE IT
herndon5 2 years ago
@Nihawmah What proves it?
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
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This is the right thing to do.
Banning gay marriage is JUST!
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Nihawmah 2 years ago
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Stupid fags, this defeats the purpose of the voting system, Why have a voting system so when you dont win, you protest to have it your way. California has voted, no gay marrage! Deal with it.
Phatxam 2 years ago
Oh yeah... why use Freedom of Speech when you have voting...
mkarnerfors 2 years ago
So why the hell do we have a voting system then? You cant please everyone. California has spoken. You people didn't win this time, maybe next time in the next few years.
Phatxam 2 years ago
Or we just let the courts decide themselves on the matter. Which is what they shouldve done in the first place
herndon5 2 years ago
Free speech is still in effect, voting or not. Deal with it.
mkarnerfors 2 years ago
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The people of California have spoken.You people should never have been allowed to get married in the first place.Now shut the fuck up and go back in the closet you fucking freaks.
southboston7 2 years ago
Friend,
Coments like yours scare me and make me freak out when I think that this is supposed to be one of the most advanced societies on the planet. I'm affraid that when it comes to ethics and values, some areas in the States are stil in the middle ages.
And before you start insulting me I am absolutely not concerned by any gay marriage ban, not being either gay nor from California.
augoustinos 2 years ago 4
@southboston7 Going back in the closet will not make us cease being gay or lesbian *facepalm*
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
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When Sarah Palin becomes President, she will PERMANENTLY ABOLISH Gay Marriage and ALL Gay Unions and Domestic partnerships. She will mandate a program for all homos to go to so they can change into straight heteros!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
I have an idea! She could also put them in camps, and make them work until they understand what to be straight means!
You certainly do know that such programs did exist in Germany in the 1940ies?
augoustinos 2 years ago 5
These camps already exist. They are called public schools and they have a whole indoctrination program forced upon the children teaching them how wonderful it is to be homosexual. They have thought control programs where you cannot have a different opinion or you are called a homophobe. I think they are working on sewing a red triangle on their clothes to identify these people who think differently!
myviews1 2 years ago
No exageration whatsoever of course... Wonderful is the right word when it comes to defining the experience of people who are forced to hide and not allowed to visit the person they love in hospital. I somehow hesitate to believe schools would teach such truths. Have teachers not refuted those arguments anyway?
augoustinos 2 years ago
I think the hospitals you are talking about are in the concentration camps. I have NEVER had a problem visiting a person in a hospital. Come on, this is a cheap sentimental argument that applies in extremely rare emergency cases. Anyone can get a waver from another to arrange such visits.
myviews1 2 years ago
It's good to be exchanging words with someone who does not use f***** ever two or three sentenses. Thank you for that! Now, even if it is in rare cases, I am absolutely against the concept that some people should have different rights! Internationally, this whole story is going down really bad!
augoustinos 2 years ago
Yes, it is good to have a civlliized debate. Thank you for that as well.
However, I do disagree. We are not talking about different rights for the same people. We are talking about giving the privileges of marriage upon people who are not biologically capable of receiving them. Apples and oranges.
As for the international scene, we should not take our cues from other nations, but on what is right. What others think has always been the argument of those without principles.
myviews1 2 years ago
@ecwaufisxtreme are you high?
Izlandzadi14 7 months ago
Why should people be rewarded for getting married anyway?
ManicMuppets 2 years ago
fuck marriage, people who really love each other dont need a wedding to prove it
dmc9021 2 years ago 4
robo-gay bots!
note: marriage is not a fundamental right
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upabittoolate 2 years ago
now that the silliness is out of the way, it's a shame that they need to got through this. but i must say that if the had mobilized sooner, this may never have been a necessity
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