You ever notice how although all kinds of different people choose abstinence for various reasons, but the only people who seem to have a problem with anyone choosing otherwise are all religious?
I believe the intentions of this video are good, but there is a real-world problem here. Most of Christianity has not adjusted itself to the fact that our culture delays marriage until the late 20s. By contrast people in the bible usually got married in their early teens. There is a world of difference between expecting people to be 13 year-old virgins like in the bible and expecting people today are going to be 30 year-old virgins.
@wcr4 If unplanned pregnancy and STDs are the main concern, then telling people that a condom is a "provision for sin" is the wrong way to deal with it, even the Pope has backed down on that message.
@wcr4 Hey that's great I'm glad you're talking to unbelievers! But I'm talking to believers about their extremest theology which demands the execution of homosexuals (Rom 1:26-32), the shunning of people who have premarital sex (1 Cor 5:11-13). I'm reminding them that the lovers in the Song of Solomon make love in chapter 2 and get married in chapter 3 and that the literal order of words of 1 Cor 7:36 put sex before marriage and it is declared to not be a sin. But good luck in your efforts!
@gsschoenfeld I think you have some holes in your theory. The word order of 1 Cor 7:36 depends on translation. Paul was one of the staunchest condemners of sexual immorality. Song of Solomon is not chronological. For more info on this question, I would invite you to search for the article, "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage / premarital sex?" on GotQuestions.
@gsschoenfeld That is a good quote, but if you read the whole article it makes a point that cannot be refuted by a sentence out of context. I hope that you will be willing to conform your attitude to Scripture by the grace of God. It's only by his grace that we're able.
@wcr4 I don't understand why anyone would take an article like that seriously. It blatantly contradicts itself. God is not the author of that kind of confusion. You needn't concern yourself with my conformity. I'm perfectly capable of studying the bible for myself. I stick with the facts of the text and I'm 100% confident of my views, even in the face of a total landslide of the false doctrines and claims of organized religion.
Sex is a sin EVEN IN MARRIAGE. Sex in marriage is condemned as 'chambering' in Romans 13:13. Sex outside of marriage is 'fornication' and it is unforgivably evil.
1 Cor 5:11-13 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator ... Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
@amyyyamy To be blunt the answer is you should not have sex, ever, not even within marriage. Because ideally it's best for people to never have sex. But those who do should only do it within marriage solely with the intent of procreation. The spiritual consequences are far less severe.
@MrRoycelong ok, so side information: me- not a christian, but always curious. that being said- bible says be fruitful and multiply, men is created by god with all their desires and needs, and now it's a sin to follow them? really? (consensually, of course!) basically, it would be better to not have children then, cause you need to have sex in order to have them? and when you have, for example, 4 children (insert any number), you should have no more sex? so much for a healthy marriage...
@amyyyamy Since you're not a Christian I wouldn't expect you to understand, and it really doesn't matter because your eternal soul is lost anyway. Be fruitful and multiply were the instructions before Satan totally perverted sex in Genesis chapter 3. Now things are much different. Now it's best to never have sex, or children. The good news is you can have a very healthy marriage without ever having sexual intercourse. Joseph and Mary never had sex and they were the model family.
This video is dis-analogous. People (if they are hygienic) shower at least once a day compared to that bottle not being cleaned once between each mouth it touched.
@Ifight4jesus STDs don't wash off in a shower, bro. Neither does conception. Neither does the depression that comes after sex outside of marriage. Neither does sexual addiction or any of the other downsides of sex outside of a monogamous, loving marriage. I walked that life for years, hurting and being hurt, before I saw the truth of what God offered us...What I have now utterly eclipses ALL of what came before, in every way.
@middleagedknight std dont wash off, youre right. BUT. you might as well know there are are ways to protect yoursel.f...? you might know that depression does not usually come from sex outside of marriage? sex addiction is a mental disorder that does not come from having too much sex? what of the upsides of a sex life outside of marriage? as for example,knowing what you want and even more imoprtantly, not want?
@amyyyamy There is no 100% effective way other than abstinence to protect yourself. Sexual addiction is a mental disorder, but it has a trigger, and fuel. Depression from teenage sex and multiple sex partners is a proven fact, so check the research. I had both lives....sex with whomever and sex within a monogamous, committed relations....no comparison. And the theory of finding out what you don't want by trying it, is nuts. I know what the facts are, you are free to continue as you choose.
@lilmerboy You're taking my words out of context here lol. I specifically stated my purpose is not to disobey the chance of having more freedom in one's sexual life, moreover I clearly added morality and leniency in there. Promiscuity is a life choice, and as apparent as that sex sells, I don't expect people to wear purity rings. Although as the video has shown (hope you watched it), abstinence is about playing it "extra" safe and that's something I'd like to suggest, not promote.
See, religion in essence is good, it's just they're often badly misinterpreted. Personally I condone abstinence, although I've come to realization it's unjust to stuff my subjective standings to others. Morality and leniency definitely comes into play, because even gays should have the right to marry. Maybe not under Christianity, but they have every right to live. The same idea applies to sex. It's okay not to follow abstinence, but at least practice monogamy or keep it minimum and be safe.
@makkein abstinence doesn't work. Countless studies again and again prove that it doesn't work and that's that.
Young people will have sex, whether you like it or not. We will do it safely and have fun, and that's that. You're so jealous because you know it's bs what you believe, and you want to live freely.
Just because you have sex, doesn't mean you're irresponsible nor a bad person.
@lilmerboy That's ridiculous. Of course abstinence works - 100% of the time. Are you saying that someone who abstains from sexual activity can become pregnant, or acquire a sexually transmitted disease? Who taught you that? Please ask them to explain how that can happen. In all of human history only one abstinent person ever became pregnant, and Jesus was born.
Read my comments, in the view all comments. Also, hear Jason's talk to teens "Romance without regrets" from my link. There Jason makes an excellent presentation proving what we already know in our hearts (but won't admit) that abstinence does work. I'm waiting and I have NO Hiv, Aids, Costly Child support that cuts your check to 99.00 a week. Abstinence works and the girls are signing up, so guys are fighting it, lol.
You know in your heart that in a good 10 years abstinence education won't be around any more.
abstinence education doesn't work, it doesn't have any significant results, and it kills you to know that plenty of people are safely having sex, and aren't going to hell for it, like what you believe.
@lilmerboy How do you know people aren't going to hell? Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I like the idea of purity, thou the sexual analogy is warped and skewed by religion. Attain real purity by keeping your mind clean as religion is for people who cant think for themselves.
A person is not filthy or sinful simply for loving. Consider the notion of "oral purity" or "cuddle purity". Is a hug virgin really more superior to other 'disgusting' people who kiss or cuddle their partners/friends/relatives?
Great video, it is amazing that the folks making the negative comments simply missed the simple statement your vid makes. Thougs speaking Truth in the face of populat culture is bound to be met with resistance.
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all this is ridiculous, it only perpetuates the idea that those who have sex are hoes or whatever. This is earth people are free to live how they want, this lame water bottle bull is such a weak argument because who the hell would drink from something they just saw 10 people drink from. It's as if they're saying those engaged in premarital sex sleep with any and everyone they meet. How lame. As long as people are responsible there is nothing wrong with sex.
@Clipseeee You couldn't be more right. And what a silly, contrived trick, drinking water after somebody. For one thing, condoms exist. Imagine that. That concept in itself renders this whole demonstration null. And for another, sexual urges are natural, part of a normal human being's life and all this nonsensical 'saving yourself' mentality is without exception followed by 'it's what Jesus would want'. Try thinking with your own mind about what you want. It's a mad, masochistic world out there.
I jdon't agree with this approach. Did anybody stop to think how it makes people who have been around the block a few times feel? Ive been in churches all my life that use illustrations like this and its just wrong. I think they are missing the point of sexual purity. Sexual sins are sins against our own body, thus affecting our spiritual purity. Spiritual purity is the goal of sexual purity. Period. A persons value as a desirable spouse should not be based on how many people they've doinked.
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LOL sex is awesome. I love people who believe in god. You waste your life here on Earth thinking you'll end up in paradise when you die. We all know the only people going to heaven are the westboro baptists!!
Purity is more than mere selective abstinence. Aspire to chastity. You can only give yourself 100% to one person. LOVE your future spouse through your love for God.
PureLoveClub . net
EVERYONE is called to live chastely: single- and married alike.
I've heard that before, but it makes me mad because most men are not waiting for marriage to have sex but they want their wife to be. A double standard to me.
This video gets right to the point! :) Love it!
SabrinaTastic8D 1 week ago
You ever notice how although all kinds of different people choose abstinence for various reasons, but the only people who seem to have a problem with anyone choosing otherwise are all religious?
xkrystlemeth 6 months ago
I believe the intentions of this video are good, but there is a real-world problem here. Most of Christianity has not adjusted itself to the fact that our culture delays marriage until the late 20s. By contrast people in the bible usually got married in their early teens. There is a world of difference between expecting people to be 13 year-old virgins like in the bible and expecting people today are going to be 30 year-old virgins.
gsschoenfeld 7 months ago
what a lame, lame comparison.
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@amyyyamy How's that?
wcr4 7 months ago
@wcr4 well haveing sex with other before does not make people "unpure",it makes them experienced..
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@amyyyamy What about STDs?
wcr4 7 months ago
@wcr4 If unplanned pregnancy and STDs are the main concern, then telling people that a condom is a "provision for sin" is the wrong way to deal with it, even the Pope has backed down on that message.
gsschoenfeld 7 months ago
@gsschoenfeld I'm talking to a non-believer about practical reasons for abstinence, not the morality of it.
wcr4 7 months ago
@wcr4 Hey that's great I'm glad you're talking to unbelievers! But I'm talking to believers about their extremest theology which demands the execution of homosexuals (Rom 1:26-32), the shunning of people who have premarital sex (1 Cor 5:11-13). I'm reminding them that the lovers in the Song of Solomon make love in chapter 2 and get married in chapter 3 and that the literal order of words of 1 Cor 7:36 put sex before marriage and it is declared to not be a sin. But good luck in your efforts!
gsschoenfeld 7 months ago
@gsschoenfeld I think you have some holes in your theory. The word order of 1 Cor 7:36 depends on translation. Paul was one of the staunchest condemners of sexual immorality. Song of Solomon is not chronological. For more info on this question, I would invite you to search for the article, "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage / premarital sex?" on GotQuestions.
wcr4 7 months ago
@wcr4 Thanks!
"There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that precisely refers to sex before marriage." -GotQuestions
gsschoenfeld 7 months ago
@gsschoenfeld That is a good quote, but if you read the whole article it makes a point that cannot be refuted by a sentence out of context. I hope that you will be willing to conform your attitude to Scripture by the grace of God. It's only by his grace that we're able.
wcr4 7 months ago
@wcr4 I don't understand why anyone would take an article like that seriously. It blatantly contradicts itself. God is not the author of that kind of confusion. You needn't concern yourself with my conformity. I'm perfectly capable of studying the bible for myself. I stick with the facts of the text and I'm 100% confident of my views, even in the face of a total landslide of the false doctrines and claims of organized religion.
gsschoenfeld 7 months ago
id take a drinkk from either bottle they gave me..no preference..what does thatt say about me ?
BootyBallerina 7 months ago
Sex is a sin EVEN IN MARRIAGE. Sex in marriage is condemned as 'chambering' in Romans 13:13. Sex outside of marriage is 'fornication' and it is unforgivably evil.
1 Cor 5:11-13 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator ... Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
MrRoycelong 9 months ago
@MrRoycelong so according to that, should you or shouldyou not have sex within marriage?
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@amyyyamy To be blunt the answer is you should not have sex, ever, not even within marriage. Because ideally it's best for people to never have sex. But those who do should only do it within marriage solely with the intent of procreation. The spiritual consequences are far less severe.
MrRoycelong 7 months ago
@MrRoycelong ok, so side information: me- not a christian, but always curious. that being said- bible says be fruitful and multiply, men is created by god with all their desires and needs, and now it's a sin to follow them? really? (consensually, of course!) basically, it would be better to not have children then, cause you need to have sex in order to have them? and when you have, for example, 4 children (insert any number), you should have no more sex? so much for a healthy marriage...
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@amyyyamy Since you're not a Christian I wouldn't expect you to understand, and it really doesn't matter because your eternal soul is lost anyway. Be fruitful and multiply were the instructions before Satan totally perverted sex in Genesis chapter 3. Now things are much different. Now it's best to never have sex, or children. The good news is you can have a very healthy marriage without ever having sexual intercourse. Joseph and Mary never had sex and they were the model family.
MrRoycelong 7 months ago
Its gonna suck when u wait and on wedding night ur Wife has a grand canyon twat and you have a popcorn shrimp :/
Enj01 9 months ago 2
True love waits.
DareToWaitAbstain 9 months ago
omg,i love this,it proves a point,but id never take the roll as one of the drinkers!!!
princessliz15 9 months ago
Haha! I just love religious propaganda.
addictedtobooks 11 months ago
This video is dis-analogous. People (if they are hygienic) shower at least once a day compared to that bottle not being cleaned once between each mouth it touched.
Ifight4jesus 1 year ago 3
@Ifight4jesus STDs don't wash off in a shower, bro. Neither does conception. Neither does the depression that comes after sex outside of marriage. Neither does sexual addiction or any of the other downsides of sex outside of a monogamous, loving marriage. I walked that life for years, hurting and being hurt, before I saw the truth of what God offered us...What I have now utterly eclipses ALL of what came before, in every way.
middleagedknight 11 months ago
@middleagedknight std dont wash off, youre right. BUT. you might as well know there are are ways to protect yoursel.f...? you might know that depression does not usually come from sex outside of marriage? sex addiction is a mental disorder that does not come from having too much sex? what of the upsides of a sex life outside of marriage? as for example,knowing what you want and even more imoprtantly, not want?
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@amyyyamy There is no 100% effective way other than abstinence to protect yourself. Sexual addiction is a mental disorder, but it has a trigger, and fuel. Depression from teenage sex and multiple sex partners is a proven fact, so check the research. I had both lives....sex with whomever and sex within a monogamous, committed relations....no comparison. And the theory of finding out what you don't want by trying it, is nuts. I know what the facts are, you are free to continue as you choose.
middleagedknight 7 months ago
Jesus still wants the bottle that's been drank by everybody else.
IronWillFFF 1 year ago 3
@lilmerboy You're taking my words out of context here lol. I specifically stated my purpose is not to disobey the chance of having more freedom in one's sexual life, moreover I clearly added morality and leniency in there. Promiscuity is a life choice, and as apparent as that sex sells, I don't expect people to wear purity rings. Although as the video has shown (hope you watched it), abstinence is about playing it "extra" safe and that's something I'd like to suggest, not promote.
makkein 1 year ago 4
See, religion in essence is good, it's just they're often badly misinterpreted. Personally I condone abstinence, although I've come to realization it's unjust to stuff my subjective standings to others. Morality and leniency definitely comes into play, because even gays should have the right to marry. Maybe not under Christianity, but they have every right to live. The same idea applies to sex. It's okay not to follow abstinence, but at least practice monogamy or keep it minimum and be safe.
makkein 1 year ago 4
@makkein abstinence doesn't work. Countless studies again and again prove that it doesn't work and that's that.
Young people will have sex, whether you like it or not. We will do it safely and have fun, and that's that. You're so jealous because you know it's bs what you believe, and you want to live freely.
Just because you have sex, doesn't mean you're irresponsible nor a bad person.
lilmerboy 1 year ago
@lilmerboy That's ridiculous. Of course abstinence works - 100% of the time. Are you saying that someone who abstains from sexual activity can become pregnant, or acquire a sexually transmitted disease? Who taught you that? Please ask them to explain how that can happen. In all of human history only one abstinent person ever became pregnant, and Jesus was born.
lakewood78 10 months ago
@lakewood78 amen and well said.
princessliz15 9 months ago
I'm staying pure, I'm saving myself for marriage.
bellakazza 1 year ago
definetlly makes sense,
veronikaseven 1 year ago
Purity's overrated. I'd rather be full and tainted than pure and empty. To be pure is to do nothing of real value.
sorwdofcho 1 year ago
i get this example and what they're trying to say but honestly.. i would have no preference. i'd drink out of either one.
kissobsessed 1 year ago
Read my comments, in the view all comments. Also, hear Jason's talk to teens "Romance without regrets" from my link. There Jason makes an excellent presentation proving what we already know in our hearts (but won't admit) that abstinence does work. I'm waiting and I have NO Hiv, Aids, Costly Child support that cuts your check to 99.00 a week. Abstinence works and the girls are signing up, so guys are fighting it, lol.
whotrickedyou 1 year ago 2
You know in your heart that in a good 10 years abstinence education won't be around any more.
abstinence education doesn't work, it doesn't have any significant results, and it kills you to know that plenty of people are safely having sex, and aren't going to hell for it, like what you believe.
lilmerboy 1 year ago
@lilmerboy How do you know people aren't going to hell? Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cor 6:9-10 (ESV)
Shoots1978 1 year ago
@Shoots1978
God loves you so much, that you will burn in hell forever!!!!
The bible is NOT the word of God. You honestly believe that the almighty creators of the universe would inspire that? That's the best he can do?
you're beyond pathetic. Get an education.
lilmerboy 1 year ago
I like the idea of purity, thou the sexual analogy is warped and skewed by religion. Attain real purity by keeping your mind clean as religion is for people who cant think for themselves.
A person is not filthy or sinful simply for loving. Consider the notion of "oral purity" or "cuddle purity". Is a hug virgin really more superior to other 'disgusting' people who kiss or cuddle their partners/friends/relatives?
Cyphlix 1 year ago
Great video, it is amazing that the folks making the negative comments simply missed the simple statement your vid makes. Thougs speaking Truth in the face of populat culture is bound to be met with resistance.
keithdeltano 2 years ago 6
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all this is ridiculous, it only perpetuates the idea that those who have sex are hoes or whatever. This is earth people are free to live how they want, this lame water bottle bull is such a weak argument because who the hell would drink from something they just saw 10 people drink from. It's as if they're saying those engaged in premarital sex sleep with any and everyone they meet. How lame. As long as people are responsible there is nothing wrong with sex.
Clipseeee 2 years ago
@Clipseeee You couldn't be more right. And what a silly, contrived trick, drinking water after somebody. For one thing, condoms exist. Imagine that. That concept in itself renders this whole demonstration null. And for another, sexual urges are natural, part of a normal human being's life and all this nonsensical 'saving yourself' mentality is without exception followed by 'it's what Jesus would want'. Try thinking with your own mind about what you want. It's a mad, masochistic world out there.
PunkAssKriss 1 year ago
I jdon't agree with this approach. Did anybody stop to think how it makes people who have been around the block a few times feel? Ive been in churches all my life that use illustrations like this and its just wrong. I think they are missing the point of sexual purity. Sexual sins are sins against our own body, thus affecting our spiritual purity. Spiritual purity is the goal of sexual purity. Period. A persons value as a desirable spouse should not be based on how many people they've doinked.
Sohaila95 2 years ago
Exactly!
selbydate16 2 years ago
Love this! Good Job!
TwinkleOfanEye 2 years ago 18
That is freaking awesome.
rosey4exclaim 2 years ago 7
I'll take the pure one as well...!
Ha-ha...WOW, great point!
lalahmoore 2 years ago 6
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LOL sex is awesome. I love people who believe in god. You waste your life here on Earth thinking you'll end up in paradise when you die. We all know the only people going to heaven are the westboro baptists!!
Seriously people, doing thing with your lives.
macharius188 2 years ago
Everyone wants to be loved. Be sure it IS love.
Purity is more than mere selective abstinence. Aspire to chastity. You can only give yourself 100% to one person. LOVE your future spouse through your love for God.
PureLoveClub . net
EVERYONE is called to live chastely: single- and married alike.
RealityCheckthebox 3 years ago 9
Statistics have shown that the number one thing men want from their brides is virginity.
52blades 3 years ago 10
I've heard that before, but it makes me mad because most men are not waiting for marriage to have sex but they want their wife to be. A double standard to me.
howarbri 2 years ago 11
@howarbri
Most people, (male, or female) in the united states don't wait for marriage because we don't care about purity
13SuperKings 1 year ago
@howarbri yes yes yes!!!
amyyyamy 7 months ago
@52blades who took part in these statistics, christians only?
amyyyamy 7 months ago
is it okay to drink the water wearing a condom?
kaesknoepfle 3 years ago
that is the best example ive seen ina while
mato20002000 3 years ago 34
lest pray more each day to our Lord and Savior! no great joy to worship Jesus! amen and God bless!
STARNPRODUCTIONS 3 years ago
**Most Biased example I've seen in awhile.
dirtydeedz161 2 years ago
Right on, great example!!
PSYCHOMOMMA7 3 years ago 14
Excellent message! Dont drink anything until you get married!
saintee1000 3 years ago 7
LOL!
dirtydeedz161 2 years ago
I TOTALLY agree. Sex is best saved for marriage.
windiestwind 3 years ago 41
Take to the streets to find out just important " PURITY " is ... and we're only talking about bottled water.
How much more should sexual purity be?
Great point ...
cantbefooled 3 years ago 7
great point!
yoshi3329 3 years ago 6
This is great. we used this in a service at our church in the uk entitled "Sexual purity", 2nd in series called "Distinctive Disciples".
You can see another short video I produced for the same service which highlights scripture verses about purity.
God bless
mannswurld 4 years ago 9