Wow! The B-52 I've seen a photo of, but not a flying/landing video...I wonder if he used differential thrust to maintain straight flight and to do his (surely *very* gentle) turns? In a lightplane one can manage a slow, gentle (but not ball-centered) turn with ailerons only. I wonder if the B-52 could do the same? Wow. And, why did that taildragger at the end not get his dad-gummed nose down? Looked like it could have been a first solo or a dragger checkout, maybe a low-timer...ouch!
I just love how so many pilots think that when you lose power on T/O you should just keep pushing the nose up. Amazing, I'll bet he hit with fuel and electrical on. Poor situational awareness and reaction skill.
Cry me a river. I've been flying 31 years and *I* do not try movie stunts after a quick shot of booze (Paul Mantz there) or ramp-strike instead of watching Paddles waving me off. That guy was "spotting the deck". Know your aircraft. Know your limitations!
I can tell you're not a pilot at all- because of this post. Groundhog. Seat belt light's on! NOW SIDDOWN!
2:08 Looks like the anti-skid on the main tires went bad or somebody didn't check them when changing the tires. I would have loved to see the bulls-eye on the tires.
@petey2crazy yeah really- and I also want to see his landing gear swivel angle setting- only the BUFF can turn its tires to land gear straight to the centerline while the nose is pointing maybe 20 degrees to the side..Awesome to watch. I have to crab it in or sideslip it down to 10 feet over the runway and then kick her straight...using rudder and even differential braking to keep her outta the weeds. But that's a C-172.
@jonesy97 Hey, that cool groundloop got their attention. In fact, if you're that good, it INCREASES your chances with the BA. It DEFINITELY increases your chances with the Hangar Babes.
0:38. Ouch. That had to hurt. Valiant attempt that was just too low. 1:20, cool stuff watching the Cub fly by. They obviously hit, but not the rudder shown next in the video. That was taken off by wind shear during some kind of weather test. Dropping the back gear down has a stabilizing effect, making the landing no problem for 'ol Cool Hand Luke flying.
@kolbpilot I just love it when thousand-hour+ pilots drop by the ol' hangar and point out things I completely missed! You must have a logbook stack a foot high, at least. Yeah, the dreaded 8-engine emergency landing is something to watch! I now know NOT to stomp the rudder back and forth violently in a BUFF, lest that very skill be called for!
@Crashman2 It was not an intentional groundloop. Chewie (thats the callsign of the pilot of the aircraft) had a normal brake failure and selected emergency brakes. Due to the nature of the emergency brake system the ABS goes away and you tend to lock the brakes. When the wheels locked up both main mounts blew. As the aircraft slowed below 70kts they began to loose rudder effectiveness and departed the runway. The announcer at the time kept a cool head and attempted to not scare the crowd.
@Navyflight2003 Tell Chewie that whatever his story is, it ain't gonna go over very well with his Crew Chief, his Squadron leader or his CAG, or up on Vulture's Row. [snap, snap]. SELECT Emergency Braking and POW! ALL brakes lock? You Navy guys DO have a nosewheel somewhere- even if you can't steer it, right? You just use it to hook to the catapult that throws your A/C in the drink. Hey- look what just walked in the door. Must be one of those new Australian Wedgetails!
@Crashman2 It was not an intentional groundloop. Chewie (thats the callsign of the pilot of the aircraft) had a normal brake failure and selected emergency brakes. Due to the nature of the emergency brake system the ABS goes away and you tend to lock the brakes. When the wheels locked up both main mounts blew. As the aircraft slowed below 70kts they began to loose rudder effectiveness and departed the runway. The announcer at the time kept a cool head and attempted to not scare the crowd.
@MrOmargan Thanks rather to Vanessa Mae for the "mechanicals"- the synch approval. (Buy her records! she's a goddess!) Under the US Copyright Code, Title 17 U.S.C. a work composed of many different images, rearranged and re-composed in a novel manner by a creator, is a separate and novel work that only the Creator owns the copyright to. Namely, me. Does Campbell's own the rights to Andy Warhol's soup can artwork? Nope-his estate does. Save yr time, kid- I've been practicing Law for 20+years.
Don't worry about it! You are in MUCH greater danger of harm just driving anywhere in a car or bus. You could spend your whole lifetime just flying airliners and the odds are that nothing would ever happen... If you're scared, be scared on the drive to the airport- THAT'S MUCH MORE dangerous!
The B52 is a big slab sided aircraft, the drag from the stub of fin left along with gentle flight made this possible. This was a B52 used for measuring turbulence and the fin snapped whilst flying low over a ridge of mountains/hills during a test. unti recently it was at the davis monthan "boneyard" dont know if its still there, it was called the CCV as i recall.
@dav3uk99 Thanks for the background story! It's 100% correct. If I had to lose some structure someday, PLEASE God let it be just the rudder. If it's the whole vertical stab, I'm gone. But in a light aircraft, you can actually yaw the plane by opening a door and pushing out, creating drag. I've practiced doing that many times, and it works just fine. Just in case my rudder cables both snap after takeoff. I work ALL the controls to their limits and check visually before I take the runway- ALWAYS!
@dav3uk99@dav3uk99 you are dead right. Those fins CAN come off if you are too heavy on the pedals in a 100-MPH tailwind and you airspeed is showing Mach .8.... from your superior knowledge I'd say he got caught in a standing mountain rotor... invisible rolling air moving at 50-150 kts.on the lee side of the mountain.
@Crashman2 If you're airspeed is mach .8, what does the 100mph tailwind have to do with anything? You're still doing mach .8 regardless of a headwind or tailwind..
Your comment was about being heavy on the pedals with a 100mph tailwind w/mach .8 airspeed. Nothing about groundspeed or landing. I agree with you, was just wondering about the 100mph tailwind. Do you mean if you're parked on the ground with a 100mph tailwind? Then you should probably put your gust lock in and tie it down. :)
@pulsejet1 NO! ALL jets MUST start engines INTO the wind, or you risk a "Hot Start" and $50,000 teardown. Good thing our Navy Air Bosses can swing the wind where they want to. And if any wind around 100MPH is below the HIGH jetstream, near the ground, You LOCK THAT USAF JET DOWN AND WAIT! PS: I can handle a C-150 WITH an FAA Examiner on board with a 20-knot 90-degree crosswind! He let me take her up after 3 touch-n-gos! I was a student... but almost ready for Checkride!Passed 1st try.
Yup. Dead on correct, sir. . The engine fell on his chest when the airframe came part and scorpioned over w/ the tail. Poor Paul.
Later on his partner Frank Tallman, also one of the most expert movie stunt fliers ever known, was killed - scud-running in a Cessna single. All the airwork in The Great Waldo Pepper is his stuff. He ditched a Jenny into a pond at maybe 20 knots in a slow, deep stall, and it was hardly even damaged - just wet.
The last guy... Any info? I think I've seen that before but not sure. Anyway, the beginning and the aileron application prior to the spin lead me to believe this was an ill attempt to display bravado. Is that right?
I thought that at first as well. But well before my instructor ever jumped out of the right seat, the instinctive move would have been to push forward, not try and crank an aileron roll. LOL! Thanks for the vids, I love 'em!
The first one is the "flight of the Phoenix" film crash, very rare I have only ever seen still photos. The pilot died, there was a passenger behind who was thrown out and got a broken collar bone. The cause - the pilot was drunk.
He was indeed. Apparently he was regularly drunk whilst flying, well over the limit anyway. The crash was attributed to the alcohol level in his blood but it never seemed to affect his flying before!
Things were different back then. Everybody smoked, all REAL pilots drank, and a nip or 2 before flying a short sequence wasn't considered any big deal. He crashed because his L gear hit a small sand dune he couldn't see, and the jury-rig he was flying broke apart at the fuselage join. He would have made it except for the engine falling on him when she went over and tumbled...
Y tambien tiene todo tipo de videos aeronauticos, incl. unos para paracaidistas como Vd. Paracaidistas tienen mi respeto - saltar y volar con un pedazo de fabrico solamente... que maaacho! - Y que loooco!
gracias crashman2...la verdad es que me gusta mucho la aviacion,soy piloto y paracaidista... asi que no dejes de fabricar videos!!!!en eeuu hay mucha aficion a la aviacion pero en españa somos muy pocos...las "matriculas" de los aviones todavia no tienen numero,ejmp:EC-JKF...en eeuu tienen varios numeros,ejmp:U-xxxJKF.
Si, pero estos numeros del culo - y a veces pintado en las alas- siempre empiezan con uno or mas letras indicando el pais de registracion. En EEUU se llaman "N-numbers" porque nuestra letra es "N". Y Mejico is "X", Inglaterra es "G", aviones de Alemania empieza con letra "D", y la pequena nacion de Brunei tiene registraciones empezando con "V8", ejemplo: V8-RBA. Aqui tenemos pagina de la sistema internacional: wwx.homepages.mcb.n*t/bones/04fs/data/FSICAO.htm
Si, piloto desde 32 anos - aeronaves sencillos de 1 motor, pero suy certificado para aviones com motores mas de 200HP y ruedas de aterrizaje retractables. Me falto certificacion de volar con instrumentos en las nubes, pero he volado muchos tipos de aviones de dos motores, incl. turbopropulsores (con instructor). No tengo bastante valor para saltar de un avion sirviendo bien, so no soy paracaidista.... pero me interesa!
de turbina solo he volado en turbohelices todas pilatus porter y bimotores la twin ... la que se suele usar para tirarse...la habilitacion instrumental a mi tambien me gustaria sacarla para poder volar de noche...tiene que ser bonito eh? por encima de la autopista....niaaaaaaauuuuuuuummmmmm
@pulsejet1 AMEN TO THAT! The groundhogs don't know how a Navy cockpit rollcage is built!
Crashman2 3 weeks ago
Wow! The B-52 I've seen a photo of, but not a flying/landing video...I wonder if he used differential thrust to maintain straight flight and to do his (surely *very* gentle) turns? In a lightplane one can manage a slow, gentle (but not ball-centered) turn with ailerons only. I wonder if the B-52 could do the same? Wow. And, why did that taildragger at the end not get his dad-gummed nose down? Looked like it could have been a first solo or a dragger checkout, maybe a low-timer...ouch!
ProChoiceJesus 1 month ago
paul mantz was killed in this crash.
straighttailpilot 2 months ago
I just love how so many pilots think that when you lose power on T/O you should just keep pushing the nose up. Amazing, I'll bet he hit with fuel and electrical on. Poor situational awareness and reaction skill.
luvchoclabs 3 months ago
@mpetersen6 the accident on 2:55 too
sthral 3 months ago
Cry me a river. I've been flying 31 years and *I* do not try movie stunts after a quick shot of booze (Paul Mantz there) or ramp-strike instead of watching Paddles waving me off. That guy was "spotting the deck". Know your aircraft. Know your limitations!
I can tell you're not a pilot at all- because of this post. Groundhog. Seat belt light's on! NOW SIDDOWN!
Crashman2 6 months ago
2:08 Looks like the anti-skid on the main tires went bad or somebody didn't check them when changing the tires. I would have loved to see the bulls-eye on the tires.
petey2crazy 6 months ago
@petey2crazy yeah really- and I also want to see his landing gear swivel angle setting- only the BUFF can turn its tires to land gear straight to the centerline while the nose is pointing maybe 20 degrees to the side..Awesome to watch. I have to crab it in or sideslip it down to 10 feet over the runway and then kick her straight...using rudder and even differential braking to keep her outta the weeds. But that's a C-172.
Crashman2 6 months ago
this music+the videos= wwwwwwhat??
tom62794 8 months ago
@tom62794 Duuuhhh
Crashman2 8 months ago
Ironic that the F-18 pilot lands like that in front of the Blue Angels. Well, there goes my chances at being one of them, in the future!
jonesy97 1 year ago 2
@jonesy97 Hey, that cool groundloop got their attention. In fact, if you're that good, it INCREASES your chances with the BA. It DEFINITELY increases your chances with the Hangar Babes.
Crashman2 1 year ago
0:38. Ouch. That had to hurt. Valiant attempt that was just too low. 1:20, cool stuff watching the Cub fly by. They obviously hit, but not the rudder shown next in the video. That was taken off by wind shear during some kind of weather test. Dropping the back gear down has a stabilizing effect, making the landing no problem for 'ol Cool Hand Luke flying.
kolbpilot 1 year ago
@kolbpilot I just love it when thousand-hour+ pilots drop by the ol' hangar and point out things I completely missed! You must have a logbook stack a foot high, at least. Yeah, the dreaded 8-engine emergency landing is something to watch! I now know NOT to stomp the rudder back and forth violently in a BUFF, lest that very skill be called for!
Crashman2 1 year ago
at 2:20 F18 DRIFT xD
TheFFreund 1 year ago 3
@TheFFreund Whatever it was, it was the best-stylin' intentional groundloop I've EVER seen!
Crashman2 1 year ago
@Crashman2 It was not an intentional groundloop. Chewie (thats the callsign of the pilot of the aircraft) had a normal brake failure and selected emergency brakes. Due to the nature of the emergency brake system the ABS goes away and you tend to lock the brakes. When the wheels locked up both main mounts blew. As the aircraft slowed below 70kts they began to loose rudder effectiveness and departed the runway. The announcer at the time kept a cool head and attempted to not scare the crowd.
Navyflight2003 1 year ago
@Navyflight2003 Tell Chewie that whatever his story is, it ain't gonna go over very well with his Crew Chief, his Squadron leader or his CAG, or up on Vulture's Row. [snap, snap]. SELECT Emergency Braking and POW! ALL brakes lock? You Navy guys DO have a nosewheel somewhere- even if you can't steer it, right? You just use it to hook to the catapult that throws your A/C in the drink. Hey- look what just walked in the door. Must be one of those new Australian Wedgetails!
Crashman2 1 year ago
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@Crashman2 It was not an intentional groundloop. Chewie (thats the callsign of the pilot of the aircraft) had a normal brake failure and selected emergency brakes. Due to the nature of the emergency brake system the ABS goes away and you tend to lock the brakes. When the wheels locked up both main mounts blew. As the aircraft slowed below 70kts they began to loose rudder effectiveness and departed the runway. The announcer at the time kept a cool head and attempted to not scare the crowd.
Navyflight2003 1 year ago
all thanks to getty images
MrOmargan 1 year ago
@MrOmargan Thanks rather to Vanessa Mae for the "mechanicals"- the synch approval. (Buy her records! she's a goddess!) Under the US Copyright Code, Title 17 U.S.C. a work composed of many different images, rearranged and re-composed in a novel manner by a creator, is a separate and novel work that only the Creator owns the copyright to. Namely, me. Does Campbell's own the rights to Andy Warhol's soup can artwork? Nope-his estate does. Save yr time, kid- I've been practicing Law for 20+years.
Crashman2 1 year ago
It ends on a sad note... that guy could have easily died.
sdflksdfkfh 1 year ago
i am scared and worried now cause in the summer in august i am going to the Dominican Republic by plane i am worried that we are going to crash.
jennybabiee830 1 year ago
Don't worry about it! You are in MUCH greater danger of harm just driving anywhere in a car or bus. You could spend your whole lifetime just flying airliners and the odds are that nothing would ever happen... If you're scared, be scared on the drive to the airport- THAT'S MUCH MORE dangerous!
Crashman2 1 year ago
Yeah i saw a show on how they have a system to do that. All good :)
Nickshark1982 2 years ago 3
How the heck did that bomber land without a tale rudder?
Nickshark1982 2 years ago 9
The B52 is a big slab sided aircraft, the drag from the stub of fin left along with gentle flight made this possible. This was a B52 used for measuring turbulence and the fin snapped whilst flying low over a ridge of mountains/hills during a test. unti recently it was at the davis monthan "boneyard" dont know if its still there, it was called the CCV as i recall.
dav3uk99 2 years ago 6
@dav3uk99 Thanks for the background story! It's 100% correct. If I had to lose some structure someday, PLEASE God let it be just the rudder. If it's the whole vertical stab, I'm gone. But in a light aircraft, you can actually yaw the plane by opening a door and pushing out, creating drag. I've practiced doing that many times, and it works just fine. Just in case my rudder cables both snap after takeoff. I work ALL the controls to their limits and check visually before I take the runway- ALWAYS!
Crashman2 1 year ago
@dav3uk99 Then Airbus copied the vertical stab design for their entire line!
schlusselmensch 11 months ago
@dav3uk99 You can also see them using the spoilers to keep the plane tracking :)
hekikuu 8 months ago
@hekikuu Of course you can see them use spoilers; the B-52 has no ailerons and relies on spoilers alone for roll control.
SenorSpode 3 months ago
@dav3uk99 @dav3uk99 you are dead right. Those fins CAN come off if you are too heavy on the pedals in a 100-MPH tailwind and you airspeed is showing Mach .8.... from your superior knowledge I'd say he got caught in a standing mountain rotor... invisible rolling air moving at 50-150 kts.on the lee side of the mountain.
Crashman2 6 months ago
@Crashman2 If you're airspeed is mach .8, what does the 100mph tailwind have to do with anything? You're still doing mach .8 regardless of a headwind or tailwind..
pulsejet1 3 weeks ago
@pulsejet1 Until it comes to landing time... or calculating groundspeed. Are you a Hot-Air Balloonist? No offense and thx for the comment.
Crashman2 3 weeks ago
@Crashman2 No, not a balloonist - haha.
Your comment was about being heavy on the pedals with a 100mph tailwind w/mach .8 airspeed. Nothing about groundspeed or landing. I agree with you, was just wondering about the 100mph tailwind. Do you mean if you're parked on the ground with a 100mph tailwind? Then you should probably put your gust lock in and tie it down. :)
pulsejet1 3 weeks ago
@pulsejet1 NO! ALL jets MUST start engines INTO the wind, or you risk a "Hot Start" and $50,000 teardown. Good thing our Navy Air Bosses can swing the wind where they want to. And if any wind around 100MPH is below the HIGH jetstream, near the ground, You LOCK THAT USAF JET DOWN AND WAIT! PS: I can handle a C-150 WITH an FAA Examiner on board with a 20-knot 90-degree crosswind! He let me take her up after 3 touch-n-gos! I was a student... but almost ready for Checkride!Passed 1st try.
Crashman2 3 weeks ago
@dav3uk99 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! TEN FREE HOURS IN AN F-4 (SCOOTER OR CORSAIR) FOR THAT!
Crashman2 3 weeks ago
by precisely flying the plane XD
6ot4hr 2 years ago 3
@Nickshark1982 By using engine thrust.
pmbbike 2 years ago
b52 pilot. amazing
dcooke1989 2 years ago 4
Nice video Crashman (:
MalteBallegaard 2 years ago 4
Thx- more in the works...
Crashman2 2 years ago
dude wats the name if this song?
Fawaz4321 2 years ago 4
LOOOL! THE EYES OF TEXAS ARE UPON YOU!
Crashman2 2 years ago
The very first one was Paul Mantz crashing the Phoenix in the original Flight of the Phoenix movie wasn't it?
surplusagent 2 years ago 2
Yup. Dead on correct, sir. . The engine fell on his chest when the airframe came part and scorpioned over w/ the tail. Poor Paul.
Later on his partner Frank Tallman, also one of the most expert movie stunt fliers ever known, was killed - scud-running in a Cessna single. All the airwork in The Great Waldo Pepper is his stuff. He ditched a Jenny into a pond at maybe 20 knots in a slow, deep stall, and it was hardly even damaged - just wet.
Crashman2 2 years ago
Yes, good eyes; GREAT MOVIE...
tjenk712 2 years ago 3
Never use aileron when at or approaching the stall, the last clip shows you exactly why
mjok2004 3 years ago 4
yea he deff tipp stalled it...
qsecgtyhd 2 years ago
hey crashman, very cool thx.
luvvidieos 3 years ago 4
I think there might have been one or two dead pilots in those clips!
xoio 3 years ago
@xoio And your point is...? Flying is an unforgiving activity, and quickly weeds out fools if the instructors don't. This isn't golf, pal.
Crashman2 1 year ago
@Crashman2 maybe someone will play a song to accompany ur death for the enjoyment of others
snicrep 1 year ago
need glasses? fun!
snikksnakk96 3 years ago 3
I dont see how in the hell that B-52 was able to fly without its tail letalone land level
Pkm188 3 years ago 2
Very large wings, with Very large control surfaces. plus likely a highly skilled pilot.
Ocker3 3 years ago 5
Very Very Good
Wolfen
Wolfen44 3 years ago 3
looks like a b52 is pretty much stabil without the tail, engines finnes ans so on keept it up.
nolifemerc 4 years ago 4
The last guy... Any info? I think I've seen that before but not sure. Anyway, the beginning and the aileron application prior to the spin lead me to believe this was an ill attempt to display bravado. Is that right?
thnksno 4 years ago
He just held the nose too high on takeoff, never built up enough airspeed = stall/spin. More incompetence than bravado, I think.
Crashman2 4 years ago
I thought that at first as well. But well before my instructor ever jumped out of the right seat, the instinctive move would have been to push forward, not try and crank an aileron roll. LOL! Thanks for the vids, I love 'em!
thnksno 4 years ago 2
exactly, unless there was a massive obstruction off-camera. remember: nose Down to gain speed :(
I was thinking he took off to early and simply didn't have enough lift.
Ocker3 3 years ago 3
thnksno, the guy died. this happened in Brazil
hexxor2000 4 years ago 4
Muy buenos tus videos!
Saludos!
DuXofDooM 4 years ago 2
This was cool xD...5 stars!!!
SilenthunterGER2 4 years ago 2
Is that the Phoenix from "Flight of The Phoenix" in the beginning?
WillMoyer150 4 years ago 2
Yes it is, it killed Paul Mantz, one of the greatest movie piots EVER.
Crashman2 4 years ago
Nice work, again. It was pretty cool when the jet came to a stop, facing the opposite direction xD.
EatYourBeans 4 years ago 2
Yep, his brakes were burning, and that was the sweetest no-damage groundloop I've ever seen...
Crashman2 4 years ago
Sorta... I got some high res pics in sequence on that ride, the empannage was pretty well wrinkled after it stuck in the ground.
thnksno 4 years ago 2
@Crashman2 wondering where the arff crew is
snicrep 1 year ago
The first one is the "flight of the Phoenix" film crash, very rare I have only ever seen still photos. The pilot died, there was a passenger behind who was thrown out and got a broken collar bone. The cause - the pilot was drunk.
TheFlange666 4 years ago 2
Correct. I reconstructed that piece of film from several pieces of footage. Paul Mantz was a truly great movie pilot.
Crashman2 4 years ago
He was indeed. Apparently he was regularly drunk whilst flying, well over the limit anyway. The crash was attributed to the alcohol level in his blood but it never seemed to affect his flying before!
TheFlange666 4 years ago 2
Things were different back then. Everybody smoked, all REAL pilots drank, and a nip or 2 before flying a short sequence wasn't considered any big deal. He crashed because his L gear hit a small sand dune he couldn't see, and the jury-rig he was flying broke apart at the fuselage join. He would have made it except for the engine falling on him when she went over and tumbled...
Crashman2 4 years ago
se puede saber de donde sacas estos videos?^
goragalda 4 years ago
Si senor. La mayoridad son del sitio de Jay Honeck, ww#.alexisparkinn.c*m/aviation_videos.htm
(*=o, #=w))
Crashman2 4 years ago
Y tambien tiene todo tipo de videos aeronauticos, incl. unos para paracaidistas como Vd. Paracaidistas tienen mi respeto - saltar y volar con un pedazo de fabrico solamente... que maaacho! - Y que loooco!
Crashman2 4 years ago
gracias crashman2...la verdad es que me gusta mucho la aviacion,soy piloto y paracaidista... asi que no dejes de fabricar videos!!!!en eeuu hay mucha aficion a la aviacion pero en españa somos muy pocos...las "matriculas" de los aviones todavia no tienen numero,ejmp:EC-JKF...en eeuu tienen varios numeros,ejmp:U-xxxJKF.
goragalda 4 years ago
Si, pero estos numeros del culo - y a veces pintado en las alas- siempre empiezan con uno or mas letras indicando el pais de registracion. En EEUU se llaman "N-numbers" porque nuestra letra es "N". Y Mejico is "X", Inglaterra es "G", aviones de Alemania empieza con letra "D", y la pequena nacion de Brunei tiene registraciones empezando con "V8", ejemplo: V8-RBA. Aqui tenemos pagina de la sistema internacional: wwx.homepages.mcb.n*t/bones/04fs/data/FSICAO.htm
(x=w, *=e)
Crashman2 4 years ago
numeros del culo.... jajajajaja....si señor crashman 2 asi es... la de españa es EC ¿sabe usted pilotar?porque veo que le gusta la aviacion...
goragalda 4 years ago
Si, piloto desde 32 anos - aeronaves sencillos de 1 motor, pero suy certificado para aviones com motores mas de 200HP y ruedas de aterrizaje retractables. Me falto certificacion de volar con instrumentos en las nubes, pero he volado muchos tipos de aviones de dos motores, incl. turbopropulsores (con instructor). No tengo bastante valor para saltar de un avion sirviendo bien, so no soy paracaidista.... pero me interesa!
Crashman2 4 years ago
de turbina solo he volado en turbohelices todas pilatus porter y bimotores la twin ... la que se suele usar para tirarse...la habilitacion instrumental a mi tambien me gustaria sacarla para poder volar de noche...tiene que ser bonito eh? por encima de la autopista....niaaaaaaauuuuuuuummmmmm
goragalda 4 years ago
Long time no see.. :)
KurtGnu 4 years ago 2