another myth and another rewrite of history ..if native americans are offended by this logo and name..that is all i need to hear..do we make cartoons of black people anymore..or any other race of people..time to get rid of it..makes cleveland look bad
You do know it was named out of respect back in the day for an old Cleveland Spiders player who was native american, besides you are known as Native Americans known so what does really matter and they don't ever use Cheif Wahoo anymore they use this gay little monster named Slider
This is so disgusting, looking at all these ignorant comments! Wahoo is completely and utterly RACIST. Concentrating a culture into a bigoted logo is racist.
@pootietangorade Chief Wahoo is completely not Racist you ignorant fuck. how is it racist? Racism means one group of people considering themselves superior to another race. A mascot is not racist. and i pray to god ur not a white person cuz if u r, ur such a fag. Let the INDIANS( o shit i said indian) decide if its racist or not. Dont fucking speak for them u selfhating fuck ( If u r white).
First of all, I'm Native American. Secondly, the race of the protester has literally nothing to do with the facial aspect of the team name and logo. The name and logo are racist. Denying this makes you sound downright idiotic. The logo is a completely red character with a hook nose and feathers named "Chief Wahoo"
If you can't see the racism there, I'm sorry, but you're about a few steps too far in the brainwash category and I won't be able to pull you out. Sorry.
@pootietangorade And yet how is it racist? Does it symbolize Native Americans bein inferior to say whites? No i dont thinks so, its stereotypical. its not being racist dude. I hear a bunch of native americans say its not racist. If they made a team called the niggers, thats racist. If they made a team called the honkies, thts kind of racist. But if there was a team called the whites, i wouldnt give a shit. & wahoo is a cartoon, not tryin to portray anybody. just a caricature
I don't think it's racist... What about the Florida Seminoles??? Washington Redskins, seems to me that that'd be more "offensive" What about the state of Indiana, which means land of Natives... Think we should change the name of that state??? I'm all for human rights, but I don't think calling them "Indians" is offensive. I'm white, if you called me white, BIG deal.
real natives only, no wannabes RIP Vernon, i like that cleveland/atlanta havent won shit, karma's a bitch aint it haha racist pieces of shit, bring em all down, we as native peoples must join and stp them and hope that there r acually some good non native peoples here like we all hope there is
why don't you fight for something a little more important like trying to get the land back that was stolen from your ancestors. i hate to say this but going downtown with 20 people to protest a mascot is doing much.
Just like we don't like people stereotyping us, I'm sure other people don't want us stereotyping them. I know plenty of people who are caucasion or white that are good people, who do not support these racist teams.
There is a difference you see between knowing history, and just blabbing off at the mouth spitting out ignorant opinions that are unfounded and have no evidence to back them up. When you are ready for a real debate let me know, until then be ready to be laughed at.... because I enjoy watching you racists squirm.
Native Americans were NOT savage either, they actually had structured societies with law, written language, activities, and societal classes. Many tribes lived in homes made from stone, or wood, few tribes lived in tipis.
There are over 500 recognized tribes in North America, and the reservations were Natives were forced to live on, were often barren, and had little vegetation or water resources.
FACTS FOR THOUGHT (whether they are an inconveinent truth or not they are the TRUTH):
1.) I am a registered Native American and do NOT go to college for free
2.) Most tribes do not own casinos nor do they participate in casinos, and the few that do are mostly in isolated areas which recieve very little buisness if any at all
3.) Natives have more health problems and poverty issues in N. America then any other race
4.) Many homes on reservations lack heat and running water
The more resistance I get when I protest the more it makes me want to protest.... the more attention I get for protesting, the more I know I'm doing the right thing.
Not all Native American tribes have a casino, thats pretty common knowledge. Perhaps you should consider repenting for all the horrible sins your ancestors committed, or consider returning to europe.
unless your ancestors were immigrants in the past 50 years, they have participated in the discrimination, segregation, and genocide that has been taking place for over 500 yrs. Crimes committed and moral sins have been rape, murder, kidnapping, theft, and thousands upon thousands of hate crimes. If you support the Cleveland Indians you support a hate crime.
LMAO not like your ancestors did, prior to 1492 there were over 10 million Natives in the USA alone, in 1890 there were only 250,000 left.... so try again.
lol ok... its offensive to me that people would protest this topic ,yet willingly allow their own enslavement by the federal reserve banks. obviously our priorities as a society are astray. people need to get a life
The Cleveland Pro Baseball Team is under the curse of Louis Sockalexis you Dummy! What Happen to THE LITTLE BLACK SAMBO? THE SAMBO Resturaunt chain Huh? Etc Etc.... how would your Mother like it if you were honored with a racist cartoon Character? Indians are proud people and I have yet to see one look like Chief Wahoo.
So the Indians didn't win a World Series in over 40 years because of the name. Why do the Browns suck this year. They were named after a white man named Paul Brown, not any brown people.
The word "racist" is used far to often in today's society and is not used correctly alot of the time. "Little red Sambo"? Who's term is that? Not racist. Look the word up in the dictionary.
Your grandfather was not a native you white trash hillbilly. Shut the fuck up you hypocrit asshole. If one native american is offended then the logo needs to go! Its not the native americans fault that your a hillbilly and don't see racism.
I'm offended by you, so should you go? And I'm far from a hillbilly. Nice mouth, do you talk to your mother that way? Oh never mind, if you can talk to a lady that way, then I'm sure you disrespect your mother with your fowl mouth.
Sorry for the dirty mouth but thats the only way hillbillies understand!! So you mean to tell me that if this was africa and the black man all but wiped out the white man...It would be fair for them to create baseball teams with goofy chalk white mascots? Put yourself in a natives shoes, we intentionally wiped them out with small pox...we raped their women for fun and tortured their men to damage their pride. Now we drown them in liqour stores. And chief wahoo is how we show respect?
I didn't do any of that, so please don't use the word "we". I respect all people, and I don't let characatures define me. Believe me, I've been sterotyped and insulted most of my life. But honestly, is youtube the place to debate such things? I wrote my comment 3 months ago, I've let it go. Please do the same.
It amazes me how stupid some people are. Its a fucking logo, an Indian smiling, its a fictional character. I'm Irish, and I'm not offended by the Notre Dame logo at all and its "racist and negative stereotype" that the Irish are always drunk and fighting.
and lets not forget.. the name of the indians was picked via a readers poll from the cleveland newspaper at the time.. and the indians won.. not named after anyone in partiuclar....
Oh good lord people.. Its a smiling picture of a native american.. lets poll 100 native americans and see just how many of them really care at all.. all the protests i've seen on opening day or for postseason games there have been halarious latley.. not one native american.. lol
the indians were named after a penobscot member that was a great player so good that they named the team the cleveland indians..they were called the spiders before that....you make the call
if we're going to have the cleveland indians why not the San Francisco Gays or the Atlanta Negroes or the New York Jews? Oh, there is a hilarious shirt that has the cleveland caucasians. order it on EBay!
Look, I was born and raised in Cleveland and as a young black man would not at all mind if the Cleveland Indians changed the name and logo. It is way past time for us to get rid of this acceptable dehumanization of people.
The Chief Wahoo logo is an outrage and degrading to native Americans. Anyone who thinks differently should ask themselves how they would feel if their ancestors were almost driven to extinction by Europeon invaders and then have the few who did survive that holocaust be made to look foolish by the racist symbol that Wahoo portrays. The Cleveland Indians should change their name and get rid of their offensive symbol
another myth and another rewrite of history ..if native americans are offended by this logo and name..that is all i need to hear..do we make cartoons of black people anymore..or any other race of people..time to get rid of it..makes cleveland look bad
samphillips21 4 months ago
You do know it was named out of respect back in the day for an old Cleveland Spiders player who was native american, besides you are known as Native Americans known so what does really matter and they don't ever use Cheif Wahoo anymore they use this gay little monster named Slider
baseballonlineftw 4 months ago
these guys arent even native american lotsa them oranged themselves lol no audio so its shytty..lol
mistressgircrazed 9 months ago
Dude, I love Chief Wahoo. I have a found memories of him! But this guy is so easy to feel bad for!
jimmyassclown69 10 months ago
why dont they just say we want money
am1307 10 months ago
You are too brainwashed. There is no convincing you. I don't need to take the time to do so.
pootietangorade 11 months ago
This is so disgusting, looking at all these ignorant comments! Wahoo is completely and utterly RACIST. Concentrating a culture into a bigoted logo is racist.
Juneau Jews
Atlanta Negroes
Racist?
pootietangorade 11 months ago
@pootietangorade Chief Wahoo is completely not Racist you ignorant fuck. how is it racist? Racism means one group of people considering themselves superior to another race. A mascot is not racist. and i pray to god ur not a white person cuz if u r, ur such a fag. Let the INDIANS( o shit i said indian) decide if its racist or not. Dont fucking speak for them u selfhating fuck ( If u r white).
TheBukes92 11 months ago
@TheBukes92
First of all, I'm Native American. Secondly, the race of the protester has literally nothing to do with the facial aspect of the team name and logo. The name and logo are racist. Denying this makes you sound downright idiotic. The logo is a completely red character with a hook nose and feathers named "Chief Wahoo"
If you can't see the racism there, I'm sorry, but you're about a few steps too far in the brainwash category and I won't be able to pull you out. Sorry.
pootietangorade 11 months ago
@pootietangorade
The Racial aspect*
pootietangorade 11 months ago
@pootietangorade And yet how is it racist? Does it symbolize Native Americans bein inferior to say whites? No i dont thinks so, its stereotypical. its not being racist dude. I hear a bunch of native americans say its not racist. If they made a team called the niggers, thats racist. If they made a team called the honkies, thts kind of racist. But if there was a team called the whites, i wouldnt give a shit. & wahoo is a cartoon, not tryin to portray anybody. just a caricature
TheBukes92 11 months ago
if something like this offends you then your not a strong person
am1307 1 year ago
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all they want is money
am1307 1 year ago
ironic that there isnt a tribe or piece of tirbal land in indiana hahahahaha
lion3p0 1 year ago
I don't think it's racist... What about the Florida Seminoles??? Washington Redskins, seems to me that that'd be more "offensive" What about the state of Indiana, which means land of Natives... Think we should change the name of that state??? I'm all for human rights, but I don't think calling them "Indians" is offensive. I'm white, if you called me white, BIG deal.
bigfellakid 1 year ago
real natives only, no wannabes RIP Vernon, i like that cleveland/atlanta havent won shit, karma's a bitch aint it haha racist pieces of shit, bring em all down, we as native peoples must join and stp them and hope that there r acually some good non native peoples here like we all hope there is
lion3p0 1 year ago
Please the Braves have 14 or 15 pennets in a row and won the 1995 championship.
I'm part Cherokee by the way and don't find this racist.
southernboy1381 1 year ago
why don't you fight for something a little more important like trying to get the land back that was stolen from your ancestors. i hate to say this but going downtown with 20 people to protest a mascot is doing much.
erikdavis33 1 year ago
if you don't like white man don't give him money
roboneko77 2 years ago
Just like we don't like people stereotyping us, I'm sure other people don't want us stereotyping them. I know plenty of people who are caucasion or white that are good people, who do not support these racist teams.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
BTW you mean white men because man is singular, and men is plural. Also how would you know were my money goes? LOL lame argument I might add
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
There is a difference you see between knowing history, and just blabbing off at the mouth spitting out ignorant opinions that are unfounded and have no evidence to back them up. When you are ready for a real debate let me know, until then be ready to be laughed at.... because I enjoy watching you racists squirm.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
Native Americans were NOT savage either, they actually had structured societies with law, written language, activities, and societal classes. Many tribes lived in homes made from stone, or wood, few tribes lived in tipis.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
There are over 500 recognized tribes in North America, and the reservations were Natives were forced to live on, were often barren, and had little vegetation or water resources.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
books you can study and look up these facts:
Sociology by: James Henslin.
Through Indian Eyes published by Reader's digest.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
FACTS FOR THOUGHT (whether they are an inconveinent truth or not they are the TRUTH):
1.) I am a registered Native American and do NOT go to college for free
2.) Most tribes do not own casinos nor do they participate in casinos, and the few that do are mostly in isolated areas which recieve very little buisness if any at all
3.) Natives have more health problems and poverty issues in N. America then any other race
4.) Many homes on reservations lack heat and running water
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
true true brother I'm native American i get nothing for free lol
helldog134 2 years ago
I'm a female lol but its ok
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
The more resistance I get when I protest the more it makes me want to protest.... the more attention I get for protesting, the more I know I'm doing the right thing.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
I would like information on when protests may be being held, and how I can be involved please message me on here and let me know.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
If you dont like indigenous americans go back to Europe
kenikemikala 2 years ago
if you don't like white man go back to your casino
roboneko77 2 years ago
Not all Native American tribes have a casino, thats pretty common knowledge. Perhaps you should consider repenting for all the horrible sins your ancestors committed, or consider returning to europe.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
What sins have my ancestors commited?
roboneko77 2 years ago
unless your ancestors were immigrants in the past 50 years, they have participated in the discrimination, segregation, and genocide that has been taking place for over 500 yrs. Crimes committed and moral sins have been rape, murder, kidnapping, theft, and thousands upon thousands of hate crimes. If you support the Cleveland Indians you support a hate crime.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
americans do the same things
roboneko77 2 years ago
LMAO not like your ancestors did, prior to 1492 there were over 10 million Natives in the USA alone, in 1890 there were only 250,000 left.... so try again.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
I know my facts I study history, I don't know the BS your racist father taught you before you attended a racist baseball game
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
first we cant say indian now we cant have a mascot stupid over sensitive
Brudei101 2 years ago
lol ok... its offensive to me that people would protest this topic ,yet willingly allow their own enslavement by the federal reserve banks. obviously our priorities as a society are astray. people need to get a life
FantomShadowz 2 years ago
WOW, this guys just needs to shut the F**K up
Selbatron1 2 years ago
thjis old guy needs to fuck off we all ready have to have that stupid fuzzy thing were not giving up chief wahoo
Brudei101 3 years ago
The Cleveland Pro Baseball Team is under the curse of Louis Sockalexis you Dummy! What Happen to THE LITTLE BLACK SAMBO? THE SAMBO Resturaunt chain Huh? Etc Etc.... how would your Mother like it if you were honored with a racist cartoon Character? Indians are proud people and I have yet to see one look like Chief Wahoo.
zydecojoe22 3 years ago 2
ALSO THAT LOGO IS AWESOME!!!!
goindiansbrownscavs 3 years ago
haha what a joke...how would it be bad karma when we are honoring Sockalexis??? Give it up already!!! You should be honored!!!
GO TRIBE!!!!
goindiansbrownscavs 3 years ago
Indians name and logo are in honor of Louis Sockalexis. the very first Minorty baseball player ever and native american baseball player
thatisabigten4 3 years ago
im cherokee. i love the logo. its fun! gotta make a native american cartoon figure somehow. GO TRIBE!
thatisabigten4 3 years ago
So the Indians didn't win a World Series in over 40 years because of the name. Why do the Browns suck this year. They were named after a white man named Paul Brown, not any brown people.
Reubenhubert 3 years ago
I was there. It was my birthday and my family and I froze our butts off till the game was cancelled.
Row X is the very top one.
I don't care what the team is called, I'll still be a fan.
Reubenhubert 3 years ago
Hey to all ignorant dumbasses. We named our team after Louis Sockalexis. so shut the fuck up unless you do research.
jakekn13 3 years ago
The word "racist" is used far to often in today's society and is not used correctly alot of the time. "Little red Sambo"? Who's term is that? Not racist. Look the word up in the dictionary.
kyuss4me 3 years ago
My grandfather was Native and he was one of the biggest Tribe fans around, as am I.
WeenieKay 3 years ago
Your grandfather was not a native you white trash hillbilly. Shut the fuck up you hypocrit asshole. If one native american is offended then the logo needs to go! Its not the native americans fault that your a hillbilly and don't see racism.
Blackmilitant421 3 years ago
I'm offended by you, so should you go? And I'm far from a hillbilly. Nice mouth, do you talk to your mother that way? Oh never mind, if you can talk to a lady that way, then I'm sure you disrespect your mother with your fowl mouth.
WeenieKay 3 years ago
Sorry for the dirty mouth but thats the only way hillbillies understand!! So you mean to tell me that if this was africa and the black man all but wiped out the white man...It would be fair for them to create baseball teams with goofy chalk white mascots? Put yourself in a natives shoes, we intentionally wiped them out with small pox...we raped their women for fun and tortured their men to damage their pride. Now we drown them in liqour stores. And chief wahoo is how we show respect?
Blackmilitant421 3 years ago
I didn't do any of that, so please don't use the word "we". I respect all people, and I don't let characatures define me. Believe me, I've been sterotyped and insulted most of my life. But honestly, is youtube the place to debate such things? I wrote my comment 3 months ago, I've let it go. Please do the same.
WeenieKay 3 years ago
If you don't stand up for what our ancestors have done, good or bad, then there is definitely no hope for the future
nishknob 3 years ago
I never wiped out anybody and my ancestors came here in the early 1900s so none of them did either.
Reubenhubert 3 years ago
Well since you and your ancestors had nothing to do with this then why do you stick up for the ones that did those horrible acts?
Blackmilitant421 3 years ago
I never said I did.
Reubenhubert 3 years ago
lol the new york jews
baretgibot 3 years ago
im gladly going to wear my chief wahoo hat from now until the day i die!
cval1293 4 years ago
It amazes me how stupid some people are. Its a fucking logo, an Indian smiling, its a fictional character. I'm Irish, and I'm not offended by the Notre Dame logo at all and its "racist and negative stereotype" that the Irish are always drunk and fighting.
selby56 4 years ago
Agree.
I hope the name and mascot stays the same until baseball ends. GO INDIANS!!
Plus Indians live in India.
:0
BrutalGoerge 3 years ago
and lets not forget.. the name of the indians was picked via a readers poll from the cleveland newspaper at the time.. and the indians won.. not named after anyone in partiuclar....
trainboyjon 4 years ago
Oh good lord people.. Its a smiling picture of a native american.. lets poll 100 native americans and see just how many of them really care at all.. all the protests i've seen on opening day or for postseason games there have been halarious latley.. not one native american.. lol
trainboyjon 4 years ago
the indians were named after a penobscot member that was a great player so good that they named the team the cleveland indians..they were called the spiders before that....you make the call
ratzo54 4 years ago
the indians have had the chief wahoo logo since they became a team in 1900. the logo should stay.
damoose28 4 years ago
that fat wasichu mo fo at the end needs to get his fightin irish ass kicked.
chilam8668 4 years ago
if we're going to have the cleveland indians why not the San Francisco Gays or the Atlanta Negroes or the New York Jews? Oh, there is a hilarious shirt that has the cleveland caucasians. order it on EBay!
chilam8668 4 years ago
Look, I was born and raised in Cleveland and as a young black man would not at all mind if the Cleveland Indians changed the name and logo. It is way past time for us to get rid of this acceptable dehumanization of people.
fsteez 4 years ago
The Chief Wahoo logo is an outrage and degrading to native Americans. Anyone who thinks differently should ask themselves how they would feel if their ancestors were almost driven to extinction by Europeon invaders and then have the few who did survive that holocaust be made to look foolish by the racist symbol that Wahoo portrays. The Cleveland Indians should change their name and get rid of their offensive symbol
rayvo 4 years ago