A lot of people believe we never went to the moon, Im not saying Im 1 of them but Im not 100% convinced we did either, I mean its been 1972 since our last visit, we should have been back numerous times by now, especially with the improvement in video footage we have these days... I dont understand anyone that says the money could be spent on something better, what could be more exciting than going further than man has ever gone ?
Remember that Stargate episode where there's a city in a slowly decaying atmosphere bubble controlled by a computer that programs the inhabitants to downsize their population by suicidal behavior in order to conserve resources rather than seek to explore means of going outside the limits of the computer's control to survive? That's why we don't have moonbases.
First build a reusable crew rotation craft for the ISS. then use the ISS to build ships that will shuttle reusable landers to moon/mars and back. these shuttles need not return to earths surface as the crews of these ships can rotate using the ISS crew rotation craft. it would simplify the Orion vehicle into a orbital tug to move supplies/crews/landers to and from bases on the moon and mars. Would only have to use the reusable heavy launchers for new landers, parts and cargo.
@ApolloWasRealHoax Give anyone one good reason to believe Apollo was fake, that is all I ask. And no political bullshit, I'm saying find something wrong that can't be made right, THEN I'll agree.
OK. If you are an adult person watch one of the many videos with the "Apollo 11 post mission interview" here on YT.
After that,if you are not convinced it was all fake,I suggest you suicide because you'll be a another parasite feeding on humanity for the rest of your life.
@SaturnAndItsRings No need to be rude. We all could fit in Texas if you want to live in a room about the size of a bedroom, which in would have your bed bathroom, kitchen, car, plus where would everything else be. Not the life for me. That is all based on 2009 numbers, by 2040 we go from 6.6 billion to about 9 billion. Then you have to cut your room by a third.
Another thing, most extraterrestrial advanced races of our human type are of the nordic type. My question is, How those advanced nordic races see us when we are trying to exterminate their little terrestrial brothers, the european race? Yes because those advanced nordic race are here in this solar system for thousands of years and are watching on us. how they see the supremacist jewish? how they see the bastial and genocidal niggers? think about those facts!
Do you imagine the supremacist jewish that thinks that they are the "choosen ones" making contact with an advanced extraterrestrial race? They in their xenophoby will try to exterminate that race as they are doing with the european race in this planet.
Some may find it sad that this programme is now considered too expensive and inaffordable. Pesonally, I don't consider anything to be a real challenge or achievement when your budget is open-ended. We need to start producing more out of less, that is the key to sustainability and the future. Anyway, I'm sure the chinese can salvage anything worth having from this U.S. abortion.
It's too bad the Dipshit in Chief killed this along with the Shuttle program, and with no replacement. Now it will be years before the United States has the spacecraft to put men in space once again.
American cannot afford four more years of this idiot. Please, don't vote for him again.
If we were to set up a base on the moon we could create water and oxygen from regilith and set up huge green houses. We could also use helium three for fusion power & fusion rockets potentially. I would say Mars would be a even better destination and if we were to terraform Mars using a greenhouse effect mars could have a water and carbon within 100 years or less. Within 300 years of permanent settlement we could likely have trees planted. I would say it is worth it to have a 2nd blue marble.
The passengers in side would have to be contained in a fluid though so there insides would not be ruptured and be kept on life support for near 10 years though. Like we saw in Avatar which had a fair amount of realism it would be a bit more difficult. I would also say life on a planet could never be that diverse or amazing as well.
Scientist are right saying it is likely far off and they do support saying there is life out there. If there is life in a near solar system like Alpha Centauri or microbial life on a moon in our Solar System life is fairly common though. With a alternative fuel source like antimatter we could get space stations or exploration modules whatever you want to call it up to half the speed of light as estimates say.
why was this program cancelled???? :o i was hoping somebody could go to the moon for the 1st time while i live :/ we are so evolved, with such technology now.. even a home pc is stronger and better than the computers used back in the 60's for the so called "moon landing" that of course never happened as we all know.. even school children with a basic science education understand that.
well, to be able to "return" to the moon, someone has to go there in the 1st place, and as nobody did yet, the video should be called, "FIRST ATTEMPT OF REACHING THE MOON"
The short version is constellation was scrapped because it was considered an unsustainable program that was too costly. NASA's current budget of about $18 billion is roughly one half of one percent of the total U.S. budget. With that budget, NASA plans to subsidise the commercial sector companies such as SpaceX to handle Earth orbit so NASA can focus on deep space. I don't consider that the cancellation of constellation is merely a delay for humankind returning to the moon.
I could not watch the video as i am on phone, but seeing the thumbnail, i can understand that its fantastic, if you can plz send this video on vinaywin.vinaysc9@gmail.com
You guys may have "free speech," but you really really don't have the right to say it was a hoax, you probably don't have any knowledge of aeronautics.
I think the whole space program is a terrible waste of money. In my opinion, the human body is not meant to live anywhere but Earth. Secondly, I think the U.S. Government should be focusing more on domestic issues such as poverty, education and national security. I feel that space exploration is something only very few persons have the opportunity to experience.
@dockreth oh and the iraq and afghan war was not a waste of money ehh? because u know something i would rather have my money go to something more exciting like the space program. than to weapons for some shitty war.
@Jimbob8971 As a soldier, the Afghan and Iraq war is a terrible waste of everything including money. When I refer to National Security in my previous comment, I am referring to border security and funding terrorism prevention programs. It angers me to see money being sent abroad for warfare or to other countries to assist them with their poverty issues. I feel that our own country needs to solve it's own poverty and education issues first and foremost.
@dockreth as a human i wan't to see my great great great great great great grandchildren be brought into a world like ours today and as we all know in hundreds of years to come this planet will proberly be too hot to live on which by that time space exploration will be more important than education and povety. i could go on but thats just one reason why the space program is not a waste of money.
@Jimbob8971 Dude, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were just something like 1.3 trillion - I mean seriously, what would you rather have; the equivalent of 50 tedious Apollo spaceprograms, or 2 cool awesome wars of agression!?
@dockreth what are we suppose to do wait till a asteroid hits and wipes out the human race. Do you think Jesus will save us. It is the future of humanity and though it has its ups and downs we need to explore space.
if you didnt already know ..US has a military base that cost 6 billion to make already on the thing and have lost thousands already to ìnner earth`wars there..the moon is crawling with aliens and shit we dont know chalk from cheese.
Some of you have the brains to see we were and are lied to about the moon mission. I hate to say it but look at the names of the higher ups.Goldstein.Does that raise any flags.They made billions.Why did they have Stanly Kubrick working for them? Google his wife.Research the people who've been killed and why? It's only a 3 day flight, 230thousand miles.Why haven't the Russians gone. We have been overthrown by the Rothschild/Rockefeller evil.They rob us on everything and our congress is in on it.
People, you are really brainwashed. I'm a good investigator and I've found that we didn't go to the moon.The radiation won't allow it.We were just robbed and still getting robbed. It's only a 3 day flight. Why wouldn't the shuttle go there. How come they stay in low earth orbit? You make fools of all of us. Don't you know that this country is run by evil, lying rats.They kill us in wars, food, water and air and have bank bailouts that don't need it in scams. why wouldn't they, you're idiots.
you guys never landed a man on the moon. What a joke. Don't call me a loon and I won't call you a gullible brainwashed cow. First watch. A funny thing happened to me on the way to the moon.If you watch this and still believe we went and landed then you'll know that you are just too far gone.Did you know that Buzz Aldren became a problem hardcore drunk for decades afterward.Did you know that Armstrong NEVER gave an interview afterward.To this day. Only a few questions he muffed right after.
The space shuttle was a waste of time and money, as is the discount international space station. We should have immediately begun building a moon base to launch a mars mission from. Forty years has been wasted and Obama cancelled any meaningful NASA programs. America peaked and is now on the downhill slide. We'll never return to the moon or go to Mars. The empire is crumbling. I'm glad I lived during the peak. The future in America is going to resemble the Roman empire of the 5th century.
how come in these videos you can see the flame coming out of the thrusters on all the craft in space...but in the apollo missions there is no flame leaving the lunar lander when it leaves the surface of the moon.. as if it were snapped up by a cable..but on this video there is a flame leaving the lander when it leaves the moon.
1 more thing are you seriously telling me that the government and NASA thought it was perfectly acceptable to risk the lives of 3 men each trip to be hit by a solar flare or space debris? That's playing Russian Roulette.
Why do you think we haven't been back to the moon supposedly since the early 70's?
There are NO plans on going back anytime soon either it's all just talk and talk is cheap. Ya sure Nasa has lot's of cool little rendered videos of how they are going to go but there is NOTHING on the table and never really will be...just talk so they keep their budget.
Men today are not stupid enough to venture away from the earth without proper protection. And Trojan space suits don't cut it.
@Illuminati10101, we've not been back to the Moon because of politics, pure and simple. You ask nearly anyone associated with NASA right now, ESPECIALLY the astronauts, and they'd say we could be back (yes, I said be BACK) within 5 years. Quit trying to cloud the issue with your simplistic renderings of reality.
@Illuminati10101, yeah, right...and Bush bombed the Twin Towers and blew up the levee's at New Orleans during Katrina. Go take your meds, son. The boogie-boogie's are commin' ta get ya!
@Illuminati10101, forgive me...I've never worked with mental patients, so if I fail to properly address the more psychotic elements of your illness, I apologise. Perhaps you could give me some pointers on how to handle someone such as yourself: a person who is obviously either a pathological liar, or so delusional that even allowing them to feed themselves is a study in social intervention.
And since you lack experience in mental patients i thought i should tell you that your methods wont make him any better.
Its simply called ignorance. But nobody can cure that disease by tommorow. I hope you just keep your mouth shut. That your mentally unequipped is your disease, dont abuse your own ego or ignorance to worsen another diseased person.
It just proves how little you improve your own situation.
@Armigo91, I'm countering a pin-headed jerk who's trying to foster untruth and defamation against hero's of American ingenuity, bravery and forthrightness. I could care less if he's truly mental or not; he's a liar and a charlatan, and I will NOT let his statements about the space program stand unchallenged and unanswered. So either educate yourself to the discussion (you may have to go back a few pages) before coming at me again, or bug off, 'cause next time I won't be so kind.
Thanks to Obama, by the end of this year, there will be no Shuttle, no Constellation spacecraft no U.S. manned space program, no way for us to get into space.
Obama's NASA budget perfectly captures the difference in spirit between Kennedy's liberalism and Obama's.
Kennedy's was an expansive, bold, outward-looking summons. Obama's is a constricted, inward-looking call to retreat.
Fifty years ago, Kennedy opened the New Frontier. Obama has just shut it.
@KrellLab, have faith, brother. President Obama won't be in office forever, and I'll wager not even for a second term. Not that I have any love of the Republican Party, but they have slightly more vision than the Demoncrap twits currently in power, and I believe they'll reassemble the shambles that those drug-induced coma's have made of America's Space Program. Just hope that the Republicans don't forget the shellacking they received for forgetting their role as America's fiscal watchdogs.
Man has got to start thinking outside the box. Space travel just has too many downfalls. 1.Prolonged weightlessness. 2.Radiation 3.Projectile impacts 4.Time 5.Personnel conflicts & Stress 6.Mechanical Failure 7.Solar Storms or Flares 8.Illness 9.Muscle deterioration 10.Huge cost We need to start looking into instantaneous travel directly from Earth. The cost to send a man just to the Moon would be his body weight in gold.
@SniperViper1000 If I told you there was this thing called "The VanAllen belt" surrounding the earths upper atmosphere 64,000 miles thick of pure radiation from the sun, and you are to go in a virtually unprotected pod some places as thin as tinfoil,with nothing to absorb the radiation and at ANY time a solar flare from the sun would kill you within minutes plus step out onto a moon with NO protection from radiation,...Would you go? Not me chump,you're the one with no brain.
@SniperViper1000 See we have this thing on earth called a magnetic field and atmosphere,which on the planet surface protects me from harmful radiation and small impacts from meteors.
When in space there it ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to protect you from impacts and radiation. Yet in the 60's and all that low tech they managed it with no protection at all.
The shuttle only orbits about 190miles from earth still protected from the magnetic field.
@Illuminati10101 But they have air tight space suits so the gravity wont simple rip them apart, this would stop any radiation affecting them so I think your wrong.
In space you would need a lead suit 2 feet thick to protect you from deep space radiation,xrays,gamma rays Ultra Violet rays and small impact debris such as space junk and small meteors (pea size and up) which are traveling 10 times faster than any bullet. No air tight suit they made in the mid 60's protected them from all that.
@Illuminati10101, so by you, the fact of these hurdles means that there were never men who wished for a sense of accomplishment, men who felt these problems could be defeated or at least challenged to some degree, men who, for better or worse, wished for the betterment of themselves and Humanity at large? Well son, I pity you; not only are you badly informed, but you are also unimaginative. I thank Providence for the hero's of Mercury/Gemini/Apollo, NASA, and the entire American Space Program.
@freonfreakone Thank them for what? going into a low earth orbit for a week then splashing down in the pacific and tell everyone they been to the moon?
@Illuminati10101, laugh away. Snicker and chortle, even, if you must. But I promise you this: Your disinformation and defamation campaign against the fine men and women of NASA won't work, not so long as there are people of intelligence and honesty about. Take your psychotic control meds, and go back to whatever burger-flipping job it is you had before the technology that grew out of the American Space Program gave you voice for your mundane idiocy.
no agency or government on this planet is willing to achieve such a goal, for no profit then just to get some applause and thrown in nearly a trillion dollars.
but if some will do a chemical aproach to mars, i think its china. Cause chinese are crazy... and they always do the other things.
I find it ludicrous that the President of USA cancels any future moon mission because, and I quote, 'We've been there'. Basically he is saying that it's to expensive and there's nothing to gain by returning. I had more respect for Obama before I heard that statement. There is an energy source greater than oil on the moon.
I suppose spending hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars on a war in Iraq and Afganistan each and every year is okay though.
@oneslifesadream 1ST OF ALL, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE! nobody has, and second, there isnt any energy source there, all physical power sources, like oil, gas, etc. is dead organisms buried for million of years under the earth's crust. so nothing living, neither trees for charcoal were ever on the moon, so no energy source, just plain rocks and sand... get over it. the biggest energy source available "near" us is the sun! thats where they should "head for"
@180TheDragon I don't debate with ignorant children. Your post of "we have never been on the moon" is all I needed to know that your just a dumbass. Then your comment of how we should go to the sun!? Really? <_< Like I said your a just another wanna be somebody on youtube who acts smart, when in reality your just a retard living in a little shithole of a home.
Oh...bama! canceled the program... NASA never had enough... only if all the countries in the world unite and divert military budgets instead of making weapons and armament research would start space exploration, this means a few billions of dollars as budget for developing new propulsion systems, we need a united planet, period.
Such simpletons that produce these films making sure they speak boldly what they believe is true yet expecting everyone who listens to drink this garbage in. For one thing they've got their figures wrong. According to the Bible & it's historical account of time written in the Old testament the earth is over 6000 years old from creation times! Of course those who believe in the lies of evolution now debunked fully are sadly mistaken into believing the moon has been there zillions of years. ha!
We need to become a space fairing race. Land and resources are running out here. We will learn how to do more living with less be being on the moon. It may be the only thing that saves us in an extinction event. First living on the close moon, will prepare us for Mars. All money spent on human exploration by NASA has been returned a 100 fold in many ways. Space is much better then war to extend our technologies.
@ViperJD well said man, well said - we spend SO much more money on war than on education and space technologies - the former will eventually destroy us, while the latter will save us and further human evolution. As this may seem quite obvious - it is not so clear to many...
@ViperJD : Could´nt agree more ! But Constellation was sadly unfunded ! It deserved the money !! The media would have gone crazy covering this in 2020 ! I so wanted my son at age 21 to look up on the Moon knowing human have returned to the Moon so start another branch of the human race !! Brilliant !! Alas.It was deemed too expensive ! I want humans on the Moon by 2020 and on Mars by 2033 !! A International space station, Moonbase Alpha and Marsbase ! That is the way to start the 21st century !
@ViperJD when you become a space faring race, you will create problems with the other races and that will mean the extermination of the degenerate human race that inhavit this planet. The extraterrestrials of a high spiritual evolution not get along with degenerate and violent races that are allways looking for problem. For example, do you imagine a negro (a very violent and racist race) as astronaut making contact with a very advanced race? That is why the ets not contact us.
@ViperJD ill bet you didn't know that every human being on Earth could live in Texas without there being any congestion. If you don't believe me look it up-the only place running out of land and resources is that useless thing inside your head.
@ViperJD you are so right space has brought us many things and if we could colonize many planets in and outside our solar systems we would truly be a great species
We should go back to the moon. America needs something like that to stimulate the ecomony. Lift spirits and get moving in the direction we use to be going.
I would have thought that NASA might have engineered a spacecraft that is much more efficient. It seems that we just took a step backwards and are relying on the old Apollo rocket system. Disappointing.
Cancelling the space program was the only reasonable thing to do. The demographics of the U.S are pretty much set in stone mathematicaly. The idea of returning to the moon in a dozen or so years is the equivilent to the idea of the Dominican Republic sending men to the moon. Not going to happen. The glory years are long behind us I'm afraid.
@mobius1234 Private industry is incapable of the investment to go beyond low earth orbit. Not only are they incapable of lunar or interplanetary missions, let alone manned missions of any kind beyond a few minute space tourist flight - there's simply no profit for private industry to do it. What's more - as our country continues it's seemingly slow, but in fact rapid regression - we'll be incapable of it on a national level as well.
@wavertree558 You cannot say that 5, 10, 20+ years down the line. Private industry will continue to advance and bring down costs in actually getting to orbit and beyond. The largest roadblock is cost to orbit. Innovation by private teams and corps will bring about new technologies and techniqes to lower costs. This current government run space program does not have an open mind cost saving ideas to orbit. As far as profit, there are many profit opportunities available, especially when costs go >
@mobius1234 To what end? Yes, satellite communication to be sure. Space tourism, (a dozen minutes of weightlesness for the uber-wealthy), yes. Both low - Earth orbit endeavors. And what else? Lunar mining? I don't think so. Exploration for the sake of it? By private industry? Don't be ridiculous. Mankinds hope for exploration lies with China or India later this century. Very sadly - we're done. On the bright side, we led the way and opened the door - if one needs consolation about such things.
@mobius1234 got your email. Wonderful Mobius. You went on Wikipedia, typed in Constellation and clicked on alternatives. All silly. Delta IV already exists as an ICBM and is use now for satellite launches. Wholly unsuitable for Lunar or Martian exploration. Space X? Low Earth Orbit to deliver to the ISS. Same for CST. Dreamchaser is a space plane - again for LEO, (it might already exist as Aurora - the secret replacement for the SR-71 Blackbird anyway). But thank you for proving my point.
@wavertree558 Thank You for assuming what I did you asshole. I never went to Wikipedia and never sent you information on the Delta 4, Dreamchaser, or the Aurora. I sent you information on Bigelow, SpaceX and Google Lunar X Prize all with the You Tube send video tools. All of these were videos in my favorites. You did not even mention the Boeing video I sent you. The Falcon 9 is a fantastic alternative to low earth orbit. It all starts in low Earth orbit. What you are missing is the (cont)
@mobius1234 There are a number of points I'd like to make without name calling that will require a few posts, so bear with me. There is no debate as to the points I will make. POINT 1 - the Space Shuttle program has been extended past this year till next February. After that, they will be donated to museums. With the cancelling of Constellation - there is NO Nasa manned space program. U.S. astronauts will ride the Russian Soyuz to the ISS. NASA has nothing to put humans in space.
@wavertree558 the notion that these companies and their technology will Evolve. Once they grab a market (and thier is 1) and a goal they will push the envelope. Don't forget how enormously expensive it was for Europe to first send voyages to the new world, it was only governments who could put up the cash to do it. There were many people like you who didn't see the point because there is nothing valuable over there.. the costs came down, private entities found the niche and the rest is history.
@mobius1234 POINT 2 - private industry has nothing planned, nothing being developed to do anything other than subcontract ISS ferry missions - and they are a very long way off - and no one really knows how long the ISS will last. Further - they will never be able to do it cheaper than the Russian Soyuz rocket. The space tourism will definitely happen, but if you call a 45 minute space plane ride a manned space program - so be it. Calling Russian billionaires astronauts is ridiculous.
@wavertree558 Nothing planned. Since when does private industry plan for 10 years out. They plan for the next thing. It will evolve out in sequential steps. Private industry also does not publish their plans freely like government agencies do. Competition will force prices down and new developments and new entries/ideas into the market will bring prices way lower than even the 30 mil a pop Falcon 9 of today. A slew of cost saving private ideas rather than one big government idea will result in
@mobius1234 It's an uinfortunate fact that anything beyond LEO requires more than a 10 year plan. I respect your view & agree that private industry has a place in space. It will not, and cannot replace a program like Constellation though. And let's be clear, private industry WAS developing the Ares, Orion & Altair systems. This is a moot argument however. Constellation is defunded and shutting down. If you'd like to hope we has humans will explore space privately, so be it. I think you're wrong.
@wavertree558 See, what i am saying is private space and governments will work hand in hand at first. Private space doing the innovating and governments handing the money to the guys who can do it best for the cheapest. Once we get cheap access to LEO the window of possibility will open up for Governments AND Private entities.
@wavertree558 dramatically lower prices. The governments of the world will take advantage of this and spend their taxpayer money to fuel the cost saving private corps who will haul their citizens even further into space. Then private space could fine a niche and become self sustaining.
@mobius1234 POINT 3 - your argument referring to European voyages of discovery is well taken - but the analogy doesn't work here. There are natural resources everywhere on Earth. There is absolutley no reason, none, zilch, nada - for private industry to develope anything beyond LEO systems. Satellites and ISS ferry missions are all there is. And the ISS ferry mission will be paid for by the tax payers anyway if Boeing or another companty gets a contract for that type of job.
@wavertree558 The governments will push the Private corps further at first. There is a difference between a government designed mission and a mission undertake with private designed equipment. The difference is the cost. The private function is cheaper because the private corporations are competing with other corporations for government mission contracts.
@mobius1234 Private industry will never have the resources developed over the last 50 years required for manned space exploration. Cape Canaveral, Houstons' Mission Control, Californias' JPL, Federal Land Reserves and military bases used for testing & training. Medical, training, communication facilities, naval & air assets & NOAA are all far beyond the ability of private industry to develop.
@mobius1234 Yes I have - you're ignoring that fact that it's really just a regression back to the Mercury program, (with modern technology, granted). I don't want to argue anymore. I repect you and like that you're looking at the glass has half full.
@wavertree558 Yes, i am an optimist ^^ Well, private corps have to start somewhere. The tallest buildings were innovated by Private firms. The Airline(building) industry was innovated by private firms. Computers and the internet were innovated by private entities even though the internet was first a government military network
@wavertree558 Once private corps get substantial and cheap development in orbit there is little stopping anyone from going further. There are plenty of resources strewn about the solar system. The best are not located in large gravity wells. The resources to be found and used in space are not to be brought back to Earth but used in-sutu at site or in nearby locations ie colonies set up by governments or other organizations.
@mobius1234 We went to the moon in 1969. The Apollo Applications Program had plans for a Manned Venus flyby in 1973 and if NOVA was developed, (a Saturn V on steroids) we'd have been to Mars 20 years ago. Space is expensive. We has a society have decided that it's too expensive. I think it's the wrong decision. If you'd like to think that private industry can do it, let's hope you're right - but all the facts & evidence point otherwise.
@wavertree558 There is not sufficient evidence to say private industry cannot do it. It was expensive because it was expensive technology. Expensive technology run by an expensive government. New Technology and new leaders who will develop this technology are needed to make these space operations easier to do.
@mobius1234 Private industry cannot, will not, is incapable of, and most importantly has no reason to achieve Earth Departure, (as opposed to LEO) - at least for the next few generations. It's a fact. Sorry. On a personal note, I was always in favor in of DIRECT 2.0 over Constellation on the whole or Ares IV over Ares I & V if going with Constellation, but that's me. Both options would have been cheaper and ready to go quicker. Do you have thoughts on that matter?
@wavertree558 You underestimate the power of private industry. You say in the next few generations, yes maybe, but it will happen. It will happen faster with government drive. You cant predict the barriers of 30 years from now.
@Armigo91 We are done for our lifetimes' going anywhere except LEO. Private industry will never for a hundred years have the resources, the expertise, the profit incentive or the capacity to build an Earth Departure Stage or conduct a Trans Lunar Injection Burn. Can't be done. Won't be done. Case closed. The Untied States has very sadly gone as far as it will go regarding manned space exploration. If you want to call a space plane going into the Thermosphere space flight - be my guest.
as long as you imagine yourself to live 10or20more years i wouldnt be worried to go without a aproach to mars. that will happen in that timeline. We can already get there safely. The only thing we havent yet is because our current aproach will make such a mission cost several hundred billion dollars for a few humans to get to the surface.
If you have a look at my page you'll see that I'm not one of these people who can possibly be convinced it was not a hoax even if you try a million years every day.
Now go back on your nintendo and leave all that for those who know.
@potrodsas Why would we fake it 9 times? Why would we fake landing 6 times? Why didn't Russia - which hated us and wanted any excuse to call our bluff - step up and even try to claim we didn't land? How did Japan see the rover vehicle tracks? How would we be able to see lasers reflected from the reflectors that humans positioned on the moon? The reflectors couldn't have been oriented without the hands of a human at that time.
Your arguments are childish, immature, and completely unfounded.
Your best proof you been to the moon is ...the soviets?!!!???!!!!
This by it self is an embarrassment .
However once you learn how much money ,corn, and wheat , has cost your fucking country to buy the soviet silence, you'll feel jumping from a bridge moron.
@potrodsas I merely used it as an example. Congratulations for being too unintelligent to even troll skillfully. "you'll see that I'm not one of these people who can possibly be convinced it was not a hoax even if you try a million years every day."
There's no point even trying to sway your opinion. It's sad that you have to resort to trying to make personal insults to make a point out of a throwaway example. Thumbs up to you. Then again, all you can do is criticize. You can do nothing else
It is heart breaking by the year 2020..I will not be able to look up at the Moon with my then 21 year old son and point out humans are living there !! NO VISION ! NO MONEY, NO BUCK ROGERS !! Such a great shame !!
Who ever heard of a black astronaut? There are no hubcaps to steal in space.
Considering the national average of blacks even graduating highschool is so low , i can't see a blackie getting to space unless they pick one as a token. Most blackie countries still use donkeys instead of trucks, so how the hell are they going to get into space on a donkey?
@xvoy2002 Well a majority of blacks may not graduate high school. There are still a lot of people who are black doing really well ( I'm one of them). It is ashame that more black kids around my age don't apply themselves. I have cousins who never graduated high school its ashame. I'm pretty an astrounant would never remove anything from a space ship just to pawn off on Earth ^-^
@DraconianSilenced ,,,lol,, well the crack about the hubcaps was just a little jest, but seriously, I'm glad you are doing well. Apply yourself, and get a good career. It comes more from what YOU want to accomplish than anyone else does.
They never went there they can't go there, it's already occupied by another race of aliens which have occupied it four one thousand and forty years to the date of 1969, so to be honest pimple 22 Say's theres no chance, if you don't believe me, to be honest, don't give a murky blow threw..
It is heartbreaking and a shortsighted crime agaist science ! Mr President. The cancellation of Constellation is a BIG mistake. It´s not just about America´s superior in human space flight. It´s to do with getting beyond the "trendmill" of low Earth orbit !!! IF rock from space was heading towards Earth. The is NO spacecraft that would get human there to stop it !! Taking the line from the actor Billy Bob Thornton in the film "Armageddon" : "YOU DO THIS, AND YOU´LL KILL US ALL !!!"
did this missionm actualy happend or no ??? or when is it scheduled???
lego1991 4 days ago
A lot of people believe we never went to the moon, Im not saying Im 1 of them but Im not 100% convinced we did either, I mean its been 1972 since our last visit, we should have been back numerous times by now, especially with the improvement in video footage we have these days... I dont understand anyone that says the money could be spent on something better, what could be more exciting than going further than man has ever gone ?
We MUST go back to the moon !
CruijffNo1 4 days ago
Id gladly pay %10 more taxes if all my taxes went to NASA.
bogmire777 5 days ago
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Remember that Stargate episode where there's a city in a slowly decaying atmosphere bubble controlled by a computer that programs the inhabitants to downsize their population by suicidal behavior in order to conserve resources rather than seek to explore means of going outside the limits of the computer's control to survive? That's why we don't have moonbases.
Texasjim2007 2 weeks ago
First build a reusable crew rotation craft for the ISS. then use the ISS to build ships that will shuttle reusable landers to moon/mars and back. these shuttles need not return to earths surface as the crews of these ships can rotate using the ISS crew rotation craft. it would simplify the Orion vehicle into a orbital tug to move supplies/crews/landers to and from bases on the moon and mars. Would only have to use the reusable heavy launchers for new landers, parts and cargo.
1ordequis 4 weeks ago
NASA budget = $16 billion (0.6% of the U.S. federal budget).
U.S. military + Department of Homeland Security = $750 billion.
You be the judge.
hardstyle905 1 month ago 10
@hardstyle905 right........... War sure is more important for them aint it? What benefit will it bring us then?
spacewatcher215 1 week ago
7:35 George Clooney?
TheSaulos 2 months ago
FUCK EARTH! BURN ALL THE MONEY!
OGkush815 3 months ago
Obama killed it! Now Russia will beat us to mars! No mean to be racist.
sorbsappletv 4 months ago
@sorbsappletv
You watch too much TV.
Nobody is going anywhere and nobody's been anywhere.
Enough with your fucking cartoons hillbillies.
ApolloWasRealHoax 3 months ago
@ApolloWasRealHoax Give anyone one good reason to believe Apollo was fake, that is all I ask. And no political bullshit, I'm saying find something wrong that can't be made right, THEN I'll agree.
krazykhrisya 2 weeks ago
@krazykhrisya
OK. If you are an adult person watch one of the many videos with the "Apollo 11 post mission interview" here on YT.
After that,if you are not convinced it was all fake,I suggest you suicide because you'll be a another parasite feeding on humanity for the rest of your life.
ApolloWasRealHoax 2 weeks ago
@ApolloWasRealHoax Hahahahahaha, wow, I was trying to say I'll keep an open mind, even though I in no way agree. Alright, watching your videos now.
krazykhrisya 2 weeks ago
@sorbsappletv Lol bro..You try launching Rockets that cause 1 Million+ Dollars into space when you have a trillion dollar debt..
AccessDenied55 1 month ago
@SaturnAndItsRings No need to be rude. We all could fit in Texas if you want to live in a room about the size of a bedroom, which in would have your bed bathroom, kitchen, car, plus where would everything else be. Not the life for me. That is all based on 2009 numbers, by 2040 we go from 6.6 billion to about 9 billion. Then you have to cut your room by a third.
ViperJD 4 months ago
Another thing, most extraterrestrial advanced races of our human type are of the nordic type. My question is, How those advanced nordic races see us when we are trying to exterminate their little terrestrial brothers, the european race? Yes because those advanced nordic race are here in this solar system for thousands of years and are watching on us. how they see the supremacist jewish? how they see the bastial and genocidal niggers? think about those facts!
barbarotico 5 months ago
@barbarotico Someones been smoking crack.
Hahaha.
AgrivatedKillah 3 months ago
Do you imagine the supremacist jewish that thinks that they are the "choosen ones" making contact with an advanced extraterrestrial race? They in their xenophoby will try to exterminate that race as they are doing with the european race in this planet.
barbarotico 5 months ago
Some may find it sad that this programme is now considered too expensive and inaffordable. Pesonally, I don't consider anything to be a real challenge or achievement when your budget is open-ended. We need to start producing more out of less, that is the key to sustainability and the future. Anyway, I'm sure the chinese can salvage anything worth having from this U.S. abortion.
rockbore 5 months ago
their will be no replacement cause obama killed it
MrAmericanzombie 6 months ago
It's too bad the Dipshit in Chief killed this along with the Shuttle program, and with no replacement. Now it will be years before the United States has the spacecraft to put men in space once again.
American cannot afford four more years of this idiot. Please, don't vote for him again.
971QKE 6 months ago
@971QKE The replacement will be the shuttle booster stage and fueltank on steroids.
Helge129 6 months ago
@971QKE Killing the shuttle program was a GOOD idea... lol look how inefficient the shuttles are.
AgrivatedKillah 3 months ago
So this time they actually go there......?
Cool.....!
BlatendCrude 6 months ago
I wish this program had not been forfitted due to fucking Obama
NasaNerdAlert 7 months ago
If we were to set up a base on the moon we could create water and oxygen from regilith and set up huge green houses. We could also use helium three for fusion power & fusion rockets potentially. I would say Mars would be a even better destination and if we were to terraform Mars using a greenhouse effect mars could have a water and carbon within 100 years or less. Within 300 years of permanent settlement we could likely have trees planted. I would say it is worth it to have a 2nd blue marble.
986jaritchie101 8 months ago 4
@986jaritchie101 Maybe the moon can provide fuel and a staging point (launch site) for a trip to mars
The1SandBox 1 month ago
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The passengers in side would have to be contained in a fluid though so there insides would not be ruptured and be kept on life support for near 10 years though. Like we saw in Avatar which had a fair amount of realism it would be a bit more difficult. I would also say life on a planet could never be that diverse or amazing as well.
986jaritchie101 8 months ago
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Scientist are right saying it is likely far off and they do support saying there is life out there. If there is life in a near solar system like Alpha Centauri or microbial life on a moon in our Solar System life is fairly common though. With a alternative fuel source like antimatter we could get space stations or exploration modules whatever you want to call it up to half the speed of light as estimates say.
986jaritchie101 8 months ago
why was this program cancelled???? :o i was hoping somebody could go to the moon for the 1st time while i live :/ we are so evolved, with such technology now.. even a home pc is stronger and better than the computers used back in the 60's for the so called "moon landing" that of course never happened as we all know.. even school children with a basic science education understand that.
180TheDragon 8 months ago
well, to be able to "return" to the moon, someone has to go there in the 1st place, and as nobody did yet, the video should be called, "FIRST ATTEMPT OF REACHING THE MOON"
180TheDragon 8 months ago
I'm sorry everyone, but after hearing Gene Cernan's remark, fuck you Moon hoaxtards, eat my Helium3 bitches.
Tweekerhead 8 months ago
Such a shame Bush made the GFC :(
We were so close.
But we'll make it one day soon :)
MarsMoonEuropa 8 months ago
The short version is constellation was scrapped because it was considered an unsustainable program that was too costly. NASA's current budget of about $18 billion is roughly one half of one percent of the total U.S. budget. With that budget, NASA plans to subsidise the commercial sector companies such as SpaceX to handle Earth orbit so NASA can focus on deep space. I don't consider that the cancellation of constellation is merely a delay for humankind returning to the moon.
Jcsthird 9 months ago
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I could not watch the video as i am on phone, but seeing the thumbnail, i can understand that its fantastic, if you can plz send this video on vinaywin.vinaysc9@gmail.com
VinnuSC 10 months ago
You guys may have "free speech," but you really really don't have the right to say it was a hoax, you probably don't have any knowledge of aeronautics.
Lkjhgf5482 11 months ago
I think the whole space program is a terrible waste of money. In my opinion, the human body is not meant to live anywhere but Earth. Secondly, I think the U.S. Government should be focusing more on domestic issues such as poverty, education and national security. I feel that space exploration is something only very few persons have the opportunity to experience.
dockreth 11 months ago
@dockreth oh and the iraq and afghan war was not a waste of money ehh? because u know something i would rather have my money go to something more exciting like the space program. than to weapons for some shitty war.
Jimbob8971 11 months ago 32
@Jimbob8971 As a soldier, the Afghan and Iraq war is a terrible waste of everything including money. When I refer to National Security in my previous comment, I am referring to border security and funding terrorism prevention programs. It angers me to see money being sent abroad for warfare or to other countries to assist them with their poverty issues. I feel that our own country needs to solve it's own poverty and education issues first and foremost.
dockreth 11 months ago
@dockreth as a human i wan't to see my great great great great great great grandchildren be brought into a world like ours today and as we all know in hundreds of years to come this planet will proberly be too hot to live on which by that time space exploration will be more important than education and povety. i could go on but thats just one reason why the space program is not a waste of money.
Jimbob8971 11 months ago
@Jimbob8971 has there been any 9.11s latly? I guess they wernt so useless
meronmotors 8 months ago
@Jimbob8971 You'd make a good Ron Paul fan.
rhinnawi95 7 months ago
@Jimbob8971 Maby the moon can give the US enough money to pay off its debts to china.
Daniel55556 7 months ago
@Jimbob8971 I'm Ok with my tax dollars going to wipe out moose-lims in iran and afghanistan.
teddy516 6 months ago
@Jimbob8971 ill bet you enjoyed 9/11 eh?
SaturnAndItsRings 4 months ago
@Jimbob8971 Or perhaps have neither and get a tax break.
EEEL123 4 months ago
@Jimbob8971 Yeah, but thats not how the world works.
Murqooo 2 months ago
@Jimbob8971 Dude, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were just something like 1.3 trillion - I mean seriously, what would you rather have; the equivalent of 50 tedious Apollo spaceprograms, or 2 cool awesome wars of agression!?
Comon, use your mind.
porrsmurfen 5 days ago
@dockreth what are we suppose to do wait till a asteroid hits and wipes out the human race. Do you think Jesus will save us. It is the future of humanity and though it has its ups and downs we need to explore space.
986jaritchie101 8 months ago
@986jaritchie101 I agree to disagree. That is all I am going to say.
dockreth 8 months ago
if you didnt already know ..US has a military base that cost 6 billion to make already on the thing and have lost thousands already to ìnner earth`wars there..the moon is crawling with aliens and shit we dont know chalk from cheese.
robcarey18 11 months ago
Some of you have the brains to see we were and are lied to about the moon mission. I hate to say it but look at the names of the higher ups.Goldstein.Does that raise any flags.They made billions.Why did they have Stanly Kubrick working for them? Google his wife.Research the people who've been killed and why? It's only a 3 day flight, 230thousand miles.Why haven't the Russians gone. We have been overthrown by the Rothschild/Rockefeller evil.They rob us on everything and our congress is in on it.
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
People, you are really brainwashed. I'm a good investigator and I've found that we didn't go to the moon.The radiation won't allow it.We were just robbed and still getting robbed. It's only a 3 day flight. Why wouldn't the shuttle go there. How come they stay in low earth orbit? You make fools of all of us. Don't you know that this country is run by evil, lying rats.They kill us in wars, food, water and air and have bank bailouts that don't need it in scams. why wouldn't they, you're idiots.
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
you guys never landed a man on the moon. What a joke. Don't call me a loon and I won't call you a gullible brainwashed cow. First watch. A funny thing happened to me on the way to the moon.If you watch this and still believe we went and landed then you'll know that you are just too far gone.Did you know that Buzz Aldren became a problem hardcore drunk for decades afterward.Did you know that Armstrong NEVER gave an interview afterward.To this day. Only a few questions he muffed right after.
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
The space shuttle was a waste of time and money, as is the discount international space station. We should have immediately begun building a moon base to launch a mars mission from. Forty years has been wasted and Obama cancelled any meaningful NASA programs. America peaked and is now on the downhill slide. We'll never return to the moon or go to Mars. The empire is crumbling. I'm glad I lived during the peak. The future in America is going to resemble the Roman empire of the 5th century.
edwardschlosser1 1 year ago
china is going to moon at 2012 ... usa is so far behing...
Geeeez100 1 year ago
how come in these videos you can see the flame coming out of the thrusters on all the craft in space...but in the apollo missions there is no flame leaving the lunar lander when it leaves the surface of the moon.. as if it were snapped up by a cable..but on this video there is a flame leaving the lander when it leaves the moon.
hmmmm.....
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
1 more thing are you seriously telling me that the government and NASA thought it was perfectly acceptable to risk the lives of 3 men each trip to be hit by a solar flare or space debris? That's playing Russian Roulette.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101 Yes that was Russian roulette,and stop trolling,nobody cares about your stupid comments.
Darko2625 1 year ago
Why do you think we haven't been back to the moon supposedly since the early 70's?
There are NO plans on going back anytime soon either it's all just talk and talk is cheap. Ya sure Nasa has lot's of cool little rendered videos of how they are going to go but there is NOTHING on the table and never really will be...just talk so they keep their budget.
Men today are not stupid enough to venture away from the earth without proper protection. And Trojan space suits don't cut it.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101, we've not been back to the Moon because of politics, pure and simple. You ask nearly anyone associated with NASA right now, ESPECIALLY the astronauts, and they'd say we could be back (yes, I said be BACK) within 5 years. Quit trying to cloud the issue with your simplistic renderings of reality.
freonfreakone 1 year ago
Guss Grissom was killed by his own government because he was outspoken about the hazards of space travel and that it likely could not be done.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101, yeah, right...and Bush bombed the Twin Towers and blew up the levee's at New Orleans during Katrina. Go take your meds, son. The boogie-boogie's are commin' ta get ya!
freonfreakone 1 year ago
@freonfreakone That's you rebuttal?
Ummmmm,.....wow
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101, forgive me...I've never worked with mental patients, so if I fail to properly address the more psychotic elements of your illness, I apologise. Perhaps you could give me some pointers on how to handle someone such as yourself: a person who is obviously either a pathological liar, or so delusional that even allowing them to feed themselves is a study in social intervention.
freonfreakone 9 months ago
@freonfreakone
Suppose he is.
And its not fun to joke about such ilness.
And since you lack experience in mental patients i thought i should tell you that your methods wont make him any better.
Its simply called ignorance. But nobody can cure that disease by tommorow. I hope you just keep your mouth shut. That your mentally unequipped is your disease, dont abuse your own ego or ignorance to worsen another diseased person.
It just proves how little you improve your own situation.
Armigo91 8 months ago
@Armigo91, I'm countering a pin-headed jerk who's trying to foster untruth and defamation against hero's of American ingenuity, bravery and forthrightness. I could care less if he's truly mental or not; he's a liar and a charlatan, and I will NOT let his statements about the space program stand unchallenged and unanswered. So either educate yourself to the discussion (you may have to go back a few pages) before coming at me again, or bug off, 'cause next time I won't be so kind.
freonfreakone 8 months ago
To boldly go..... nowhere
Thanks to Obama, by the end of this year, there will be no Shuttle, no Constellation spacecraft no U.S. manned space program, no way for us to get into space.
Obama's NASA budget perfectly captures the difference in spirit between Kennedy's liberalism and Obama's.
Kennedy's was an expansive, bold, outward-looking summons. Obama's is a constricted, inward-looking call to retreat.
Fifty years ago, Kennedy opened the New Frontier. Obama has just shut it.
KrellLab 1 year ago
@KrellLab, have faith, brother. President Obama won't be in office forever, and I'll wager not even for a second term. Not that I have any love of the Republican Party, but they have slightly more vision than the Demoncrap twits currently in power, and I believe they'll reassemble the shambles that those drug-induced coma's have made of America's Space Program. Just hope that the Republicans don't forget the shellacking they received for forgetting their role as America's fiscal watchdogs.
freonfreakone 1 year ago
So, it's okay to waste trillions on wars & welfare, but it is a "waste" to venture out into the galaxy! Wow!
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
you can't return to a place you've never been to.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101 Can't get a brain if you've never had one.
SniperViper1000 1 year ago
@SniperViper1000 If I told you there was this thing called "The VanAllen belt" surrounding the earths upper atmosphere 64,000 miles thick of pure radiation from the sun, and you are to go in a virtually unprotected pod some places as thin as tinfoil,with nothing to absorb the radiation and at ANY time a solar flare from the sun would kill you within minutes plus step out onto a moon with NO protection from radiation,...Would you go? Not me chump,you're the one with no brain.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@SniperViper1000 See we have this thing on earth called a magnetic field and atmosphere,which on the planet surface protects me from harmful radiation and small impacts from meteors.
When in space there it ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to protect you from impacts and radiation. Yet in the 60's and all that low tech they managed it with no protection at all.
The shuttle only orbits about 190miles from earth still protected from the magnetic field.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101 The radiation wouldn't kill you short term though. A Trip to Mars would be something you have to worry about more.
SniperViper1000 1 year ago
@SniperViper1000 How would radiation not kill you short term?
They are in space,...exposed to the full brunt of radiation. Any astronaut that supposedly went into space int the 60's and 70's should all be dead.
Look at the movie True Grit with John Wayne,ALL thoes actors in that movie are dead from cancer because they filmed in Nevada near an old test site.
And that's nothing compared to the dose you would receive in space.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101 i think Buzz Aldrin is still alive
CardShark989 1 year ago
@CardShark989 Buzz is still kicking and punching hoaxers on the side.
Miscellaneousnessly 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101 But they have air tight space suits so the gravity wont simple rip them apart, this would stop any radiation affecting them so I think your wrong.
DjPixal123 1 year ago
@DjPixal123 Huh?
In space you would need a lead suit 2 feet thick to protect you from deep space radiation,xrays,gamma rays Ultra Violet rays and small impact debris such as space junk and small meteors (pea size and up) which are traveling 10 times faster than any bullet. No air tight suit they made in the mid 60's protected them from all that.
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101, so by you, the fact of these hurdles means that there were never men who wished for a sense of accomplishment, men who felt these problems could be defeated or at least challenged to some degree, men who, for better or worse, wished for the betterment of themselves and Humanity at large? Well son, I pity you; not only are you badly informed, but you are also unimaginative. I thank Providence for the hero's of Mercury/Gemini/Apollo, NASA, and the entire American Space Program.
freonfreakone 1 year ago
@freonfreakone Thank them for what? going into a low earth orbit for a week then splashing down in the pacific and tell everyone they been to the moon?
lmao@u
Illuminati10101 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101, laugh away. Snicker and chortle, even, if you must. But I promise you this: Your disinformation and defamation campaign against the fine men and women of NASA won't work, not so long as there are people of intelligence and honesty about. Take your psychotic control meds, and go back to whatever burger-flipping job it is you had before the technology that grew out of the American Space Program gave you voice for your mundane idiocy.
freonfreakone 1 year ago
@Illuminati10101
please don't breed. for the sake of humanity.
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
@escueladeleyi, the world needs mundanes and simpletons too, bro. The hope is that they don't vote!
freonfreakone 1 year ago
mankind either expands or dies
TheBarns95 1 year ago
no agency or government on this planet is willing to achieve such a goal, for no profit then just to get some applause and thrown in nearly a trillion dollars.
but if some will do a chemical aproach to mars, i think its china. Cause chinese are crazy... and they always do the other things.
Armigo91 1 year ago
I find it ludicrous that the President of USA cancels any future moon mission because, and I quote, 'We've been there'. Basically he is saying that it's to expensive and there's nothing to gain by returning. I had more respect for Obama before I heard that statement. There is an energy source greater than oil on the moon.
I suppose spending hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars on a war in Iraq and Afganistan each and every year is okay though.
oneslifesadream 1 year ago
@oneslifesadream 1ST OF ALL, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE! nobody has, and second, there isnt any energy source there, all physical power sources, like oil, gas, etc. is dead organisms buried for million of years under the earth's crust. so nothing living, neither trees for charcoal were ever on the moon, so no energy source, just plain rocks and sand... get over it. the biggest energy source available "near" us is the sun! thats where they should "head for"
180TheDragon 8 months ago
@180TheDragon Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if their wrong.
oneslifesadream 8 months ago
@180TheDragon Have you every heard of Helium 3. Look it up before you make comments.
oneslifesadream 7 months ago
@180TheDragon Your an idiot and completely ignorant of the world around you. Go get an educantion and get out of the shit hole you call a home.
tom1yum2goong 7 months ago
@tom1yum2goong fuck you!! if you think you're right prove it, stupid idiot! ive read hundreds of books and stuff about the universe, and the moon.
180TheDragon 7 months ago
@180TheDragon I don't debate with ignorant children. Your post of "we have never been on the moon" is all I needed to know that your just a dumbass. Then your comment of how we should go to the sun!? Really? <_< Like I said your a just another wanna be somebody on youtube who acts smart, when in reality your just a retard living in a little shithole of a home.
tom1yum2goong 7 months ago
Oh...bama! canceled the program... NASA never had enough... only if all the countries in the world unite and divert military budgets instead of making weapons and armament research would start space exploration, this means a few billions of dollars as budget for developing new propulsion systems, we need a united planet, period.
GrayShark09 1 year ago
@GrayShark09 the wold needs to be united but still while maintaining it's independence.
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
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Such simpletons that produce these films making sure they speak boldly what they believe is true yet expecting everyone who listens to drink this garbage in. For one thing they've got their figures wrong. According to the Bible & it's historical account of time written in the Old testament the earth is over 6000 years old from creation times! Of course those who believe in the lies of evolution now debunked fully are sadly mistaken into believing the moon has been there zillions of years. ha!
arch37 1 year ago
When was Wales ?
diego08cor 1 year ago
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Neil Armstrong..."and parrots don't fly very well"
Ironoff 1 year ago
We need to become a space fairing race. Land and resources are running out here. We will learn how to do more living with less be being on the moon. It may be the only thing that saves us in an extinction event. First living on the close moon, will prepare us for Mars. All money spent on human exploration by NASA has been returned a 100 fold in many ways. Space is much better then war to extend our technologies.
ViperJD 1 year ago 32
@ViperJD well said man, well said - we spend SO much more money on war than on education and space technologies - the former will eventually destroy us, while the latter will save us and further human evolution. As this may seem quite obvious - it is not so clear to many...
dynamiz77 1 year ago
@ViperJD : Could´nt agree more ! But Constellation was sadly unfunded ! It deserved the money !! The media would have gone crazy covering this in 2020 ! I so wanted my son at age 21 to look up on the Moon knowing human have returned to the Moon so start another branch of the human race !! Brilliant !! Alas.It was deemed too expensive ! I want humans on the Moon by 2020 and on Mars by 2033 !! A International space station, Moonbase Alpha and Marsbase ! That is the way to start the 21st century !
davisgreen2020 1 year ago
@ViperJD we can live with the resources we have on earth for THOUSANDS of THOUSANDS of years
meronmotors 8 months ago
@ViperJD when you become a space faring race, you will create problems with the other races and that will mean the extermination of the degenerate human race that inhavit this planet. The extraterrestrials of a high spiritual evolution not get along with degenerate and violent races that are allways looking for problem. For example, do you imagine a negro (a very violent and racist race) as astronaut making contact with a very advanced race? That is why the ets not contact us.
barbarotico 5 months ago
@ViperJD The moon has a massive abundance of energy that can be sold for a large profit to use in space exploration missions, and wars
MrPypap 4 months ago
@ViperJD ill bet you didn't know that every human being on Earth could live in Texas without there being any congestion. If you don't believe me look it up-the only place running out of land and resources is that useless thing inside your head.
SaturnAndItsRings 4 months ago
@ViperJD you are so right space has brought us many things and if we could colonize many planets in and outside our solar systems we would truly be a great species
sentrygunner 3 months ago
We should go back to the moon. America needs something like that to stimulate the ecomony. Lift spirits and get moving in the direction we use to be going.
tonymice 1 year ago
I would have thought that NASA might have engineered a spacecraft that is much more efficient. It seems that we just took a step backwards and are relying on the old Apollo rocket system. Disappointing.
pillowbugg 1 year ago
Cancelling the space program was the only reasonable thing to do. The demographics of the U.S are pretty much set in stone mathematicaly. The idea of returning to the moon in a dozen or so years is the equivilent to the idea of the Dominican Republic sending men to the moon. Not going to happen. The glory years are long behind us I'm afraid.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Private space will do it in 10 years tops.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 Private industry is incapable of the investment to go beyond low earth orbit. Not only are they incapable of lunar or interplanetary missions, let alone manned missions of any kind beyond a few minute space tourist flight - there's simply no profit for private industry to do it. What's more - as our country continues it's seemingly slow, but in fact rapid regression - we'll be incapable of it on a national level as well.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 You cannot say that 5, 10, 20+ years down the line. Private industry will continue to advance and bring down costs in actually getting to orbit and beyond. The largest roadblock is cost to orbit. Innovation by private teams and corps will bring about new technologies and techniqes to lower costs. This current government run space program does not have an open mind cost saving ideas to orbit. As far as profit, there are many profit opportunities available, especially when costs go >
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 To what end? Yes, satellite communication to be sure. Space tourism, (a dozen minutes of weightlesness for the uber-wealthy), yes. Both low - Earth orbit endeavors. And what else? Lunar mining? I don't think so. Exploration for the sake of it? By private industry? Don't be ridiculous. Mankinds hope for exploration lies with China or India later this century. Very sadly - we're done. On the bright side, we led the way and opened the door - if one needs consolation about such things.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@mobius1234 got your email. Wonderful Mobius. You went on Wikipedia, typed in Constellation and clicked on alternatives. All silly. Delta IV already exists as an ICBM and is use now for satellite launches. Wholly unsuitable for Lunar or Martian exploration. Space X? Low Earth Orbit to deliver to the ISS. Same for CST. Dreamchaser is a space plane - again for LEO, (it might already exist as Aurora - the secret replacement for the SR-71 Blackbird anyway). But thank you for proving my point.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Thank You for assuming what I did you asshole. I never went to Wikipedia and never sent you information on the Delta 4, Dreamchaser, or the Aurora. I sent you information on Bigelow, SpaceX and Google Lunar X Prize all with the You Tube send video tools. All of these were videos in my favorites. You did not even mention the Boeing video I sent you. The Falcon 9 is a fantastic alternative to low earth orbit. It all starts in low Earth orbit. What you are missing is the (cont)
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 There are a number of points I'd like to make without name calling that will require a few posts, so bear with me. There is no debate as to the points I will make. POINT 1 - the Space Shuttle program has been extended past this year till next February. After that, they will be donated to museums. With the cancelling of Constellation - there is NO Nasa manned space program. U.S. astronauts will ride the Russian Soyuz to the ISS. NASA has nothing to put humans in space.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 the notion that these companies and their technology will Evolve. Once they grab a market (and thier is 1) and a goal they will push the envelope. Don't forget how enormously expensive it was for Europe to first send voyages to the new world, it was only governments who could put up the cash to do it. There were many people like you who didn't see the point because there is nothing valuable over there.. the costs came down, private entities found the niche and the rest is history.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 POINT 2 - private industry has nothing planned, nothing being developed to do anything other than subcontract ISS ferry missions - and they are a very long way off - and no one really knows how long the ISS will last. Further - they will never be able to do it cheaper than the Russian Soyuz rocket. The space tourism will definitely happen, but if you call a 45 minute space plane ride a manned space program - so be it. Calling Russian billionaires astronauts is ridiculous.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Nothing planned. Since when does private industry plan for 10 years out. They plan for the next thing. It will evolve out in sequential steps. Private industry also does not publish their plans freely like government agencies do. Competition will force prices down and new developments and new entries/ideas into the market will bring prices way lower than even the 30 mil a pop Falcon 9 of today. A slew of cost saving private ideas rather than one big government idea will result in
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 It's an uinfortunate fact that anything beyond LEO requires more than a 10 year plan. I respect your view & agree that private industry has a place in space. It will not, and cannot replace a program like Constellation though. And let's be clear, private industry WAS developing the Ares, Orion & Altair systems. This is a moot argument however. Constellation is defunded and shutting down. If you'd like to hope we has humans will explore space privately, so be it. I think you're wrong.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 See, what i am saying is private space and governments will work hand in hand at first. Private space doing the innovating and governments handing the money to the guys who can do it best for the cheapest. Once we get cheap access to LEO the window of possibility will open up for Governments AND Private entities.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@wavertree558 dramatically lower prices. The governments of the world will take advantage of this and spend their taxpayer money to fuel the cost saving private corps who will haul their citizens even further into space. Then private space could fine a niche and become self sustaining.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 POINT 3 - your argument referring to European voyages of discovery is well taken - but the analogy doesn't work here. There are natural resources everywhere on Earth. There is absolutley no reason, none, zilch, nada - for private industry to develope anything beyond LEO systems. Satellites and ISS ferry missions are all there is. And the ISS ferry mission will be paid for by the tax payers anyway if Boeing or another companty gets a contract for that type of job.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 The governments will push the Private corps further at first. There is a difference between a government designed mission and a mission undertake with private designed equipment. The difference is the cost. The private function is cheaper because the private corporations are competing with other corporations for government mission contracts.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 Private industry will never have the resources developed over the last 50 years required for manned space exploration. Cape Canaveral, Houstons' Mission Control, Californias' JPL, Federal Land Reserves and military bases used for testing & training. Medical, training, communication facilities, naval & air assets & NOAA are all far beyond the ability of private industry to develop.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 You haven't seen the Space X Facilities have you?
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 Yes I have - you're ignoring that fact that it's really just a regression back to the Mercury program, (with modern technology, granted). I don't want to argue anymore. I repect you and like that you're looking at the glass has half full.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Yes, i am an optimist ^^ Well, private corps have to start somewhere. The tallest buildings were innovated by Private firms. The Airline(building) industry was innovated by private firms. Computers and the internet were innovated by private entities even though the internet was first a government military network
mobius1234 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Note the glass is half full when it is filling up and its half empty when it is emptying out.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@wavertree558 Once private corps get substantial and cheap development in orbit there is little stopping anyone from going further. There are plenty of resources strewn about the solar system. The best are not located in large gravity wells. The resources to be found and used in space are not to be brought back to Earth but used in-sutu at site or in nearby locations ie colonies set up by governments or other organizations.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 We went to the moon in 1969. The Apollo Applications Program had plans for a Manned Venus flyby in 1973 and if NOVA was developed, (a Saturn V on steroids) we'd have been to Mars 20 years ago. Space is expensive. We has a society have decided that it's too expensive. I think it's the wrong decision. If you'd like to think that private industry can do it, let's hope you're right - but all the facts & evidence point otherwise.
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 There is not sufficient evidence to say private industry cannot do it. It was expensive because it was expensive technology. Expensive technology run by an expensive government. New Technology and new leaders who will develop this technology are needed to make these space operations easier to do.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@mobius1234 Private industry cannot, will not, is incapable of, and most importantly has no reason to achieve Earth Departure, (as opposed to LEO) - at least for the next few generations. It's a fact. Sorry. On a personal note, I was always in favor in of DIRECT 2.0 over Constellation on the whole or Ares IV over Ares I & V if going with Constellation, but that's me. Both options would have been cheaper and ready to go quicker. Do you have thoughts on that matter?
wavertree558 1 year ago
@wavertree558 You underestimate the power of private industry. You say in the next few generations, yes maybe, but it will happen. It will happen faster with government drive. You cant predict the barriers of 30 years from now.
mobius1234 1 year ago
@wavertree558
there is already a private company that has sended humans into space and has plans for extraterristial aproaches. Ever heard of SpaceX.
They use falcon rockets for LEO.
There are also other companies that start to evolve to the process of rocketing their first missions into space.
give it a few more years and private companies will go to space.
i to find it sad that nasa doesnt get financed in the way they should. but i also agree that nasa is to bureaucratic in their
Armigo91 1 year ago
@Armigo91 We are done for our lifetimes' going anywhere except LEO. Private industry will never for a hundred years have the resources, the expertise, the profit incentive or the capacity to build an Earth Departure Stage or conduct a Trans Lunar Injection Burn. Can't be done. Won't be done. Case closed. The Untied States has very sadly gone as far as it will go regarding manned space exploration. If you want to call a space plane going into the Thermosphere space flight - be my guest.
wavertree558 1 year ago
aproach to space. Ofcourse i want them to see to get to the moon and mars.
but if the private sector can cause for better achievements in the long period, then we should give them time to prepare for that.
Im not scared that we will not go to mars in our lifetime. We will...
there are already technologies on the table that can make such missions work, by a tenfold cutdown on the finance that would support it today.
Chemical engines are soon to be replaced,
i wouldnt mind waiting for that.
Armigo91 1 year ago
as long as you imagine yourself to live 10or20more years i wouldnt be worried to go without a aproach to mars. that will happen in that timeline. We can already get there safely. The only thing we havent yet is because our current aproach will make such a mission cost several hundred billion dollars for a few humans to get to the surface.
Armigo91 1 year ago
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ytmph 1 year ago
To return somewhere it will require a place that you have been before.
The Moon is not one of the places any of us have been before.
Paris yes!
London yes!
Athens yes!
New York yes!
They are all places that somebody can return to.
But the Moon is NOT! OK?
potrodsas 1 year ago
@potrodsas Are you a dumbass? Look up mythbusters Moon Landing.
notessimodude 1 year ago
@notessimodude
Was your mother with these mythwankers when they went to the moon, or she stayed at home?
potrodsas 1 year ago
@potrodsas Ok, you want to be a smart ass? Give me all the reasons you think the moon mission was a hoax. I'll disprove them all for you. :)
notessimodude 1 year ago
@notessimodude
If you have a look at my page you'll see that I'm not one of these people who can possibly be convinced it was not a hoax even if you try a million years every day.
Now go back on your nintendo and leave all that for those who know.
potrodsas 1 year ago
@potrodsas WTF? I said I believe it was real, wtf are you trying to insult me for, then, if you agree?
notessimodude 1 year ago
@potrodsas Why would we fake it 9 times? Why would we fake landing 6 times? Why didn't Russia - which hated us and wanted any excuse to call our bluff - step up and even try to claim we didn't land? How did Japan see the rover vehicle tracks? How would we be able to see lasers reflected from the reflectors that humans positioned on the moon? The reflectors couldn't have been oriented without the hands of a human at that time.
Your arguments are childish, immature, and completely unfounded.
usnsquirrel 1 year ago
@usnsquirrel
So...let me get that straight.
Your best proof you been to the moon is ...the soviets?!!!???!!!!
This by it self is an embarrassment .
However once you learn how much money ,corn, and wheat , has cost your fucking country to buy the soviet silence, you'll feel jumping from a bridge moron.
potrodsas 1 year ago
@potrodsas I merely used it as an example. Congratulations for being too unintelligent to even troll skillfully. "you'll see that I'm not one of these people who can possibly be convinced it was not a hoax even if you try a million years every day."
There's no point even trying to sway your opinion. It's sad that you have to resort to trying to make personal insults to make a point out of a throwaway example. Thumbs up to you. Then again, all you can do is criticize. You can do nothing else
usnsquirrel 1 year ago
whats the song?
stefanhasausername 1 year ago
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For the Lunar conspiracy theorists... "Do not be deceived by the impossibilities of today or you will be crushed by the realities of tomorrow!"
Puff29646 1 year ago
ive always wonderd... what happens to the parts of the shuttle that come away as it enters space? >.<
MS13L1 1 year ago
It is heart breaking by the year 2020..I will not be able to look up at the Moon with my then 21 year old son and point out humans are living there !! NO VISION ! NO MONEY, NO BUCK ROGERS !! Such a great shame !!
davisgreen2020 1 year ago 3
Buck Ofama.
noonedude101 1 year ago
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HeatherMeadow 1 year ago
with the new lunar generation, humans will infect many new worlds.
we're all going to rock this galaxy
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kaker69 1 year ago
Who ever heard of a black astronaut? There are no hubcaps to steal in space.
Considering the national average of blacks even graduating highschool is so low , i can't see a blackie getting to space unless they pick one as a token. Most blackie countries still use donkeys instead of trucks, so how the hell are they going to get into space on a donkey?
xvoy2002 1 year ago
@xvoy2002 Well a majority of blacks may not graduate high school. There are still a lot of people who are black doing really well ( I'm one of them). It is ashame that more black kids around my age don't apply themselves. I have cousins who never graduated high school its ashame. I'm pretty an astrounant would never remove anything from a space ship just to pawn off on Earth ^-^
DraconianSilenced 1 year ago
@DraconianSilenced ,,,lol,, well the crack about the hubcaps was just a little jest, but seriously, I'm glad you are doing well. Apply yourself, and get a good career. It comes more from what YOU want to accomplish than anyone else does.
xvoy2002 1 year ago
Made in 2008, WTF are they waiting for, didn't stop them in the 1960s with less technology.
Voltron1980s 1 year ago 3
@Voltron1980s Obama gave the money to the banks and stopped this from happening.
kromed01 1 year ago
They never went there they can't go there, it's already occupied by another race of aliens which have occupied it four one thousand and forty years to the date of 1969, so to be honest pimple 22 Say's theres no chance, if you don't believe me, to be honest, don't give a murky blow threw..
pimple22 1 year ago
@pimple22 Even if they do go back how much you want to bet it wont be brodcasted on TV.
Voltron1980s 1 year ago
@pimple22 Evidence?
DraconianSilenced 1 year ago
@DraconianSilenced evidence is hard to find, when everytime it his found the finder is always eliminated.
pimple22 1 year ago
@pimple22 damn your retarted
SBskater2012 1 year ago
@SBskater2012 Yes, and I know your top gead centre.
pimple22 1 year ago
It is heartbreaking and a shortsighted crime agaist science ! Mr President. The cancellation of Constellation is a BIG mistake. It´s not just about America´s superior in human space flight. It´s to do with getting beyond the "trendmill" of low Earth orbit !!! IF rock from space was heading towards Earth. The is NO spacecraft that would get human there to stop it !! Taking the line from the actor Billy Bob Thornton in the film "Armageddon" : "YOU DO THIS, AND YOU´LL KILL US ALL !!!"
davis3001 1 year ago 2