FYROMIANS ARE SLAVS AND THEIR LANGUAGE IS ALSO SLAVIC LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES(ABOUT 6 AD) AND BECAME CHRISTIANS FROM GREEKS. GREECE HAS THE OLDEST HISTORY IN EUROPE.According to Herodotus(ancient greek poet), the history of Macedonia began with the Makednoi tribe (makednos means "tall" in Ancient Greek). Alexander's the Great father was the Phillipos II. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE AND BEFORE BELONGED TO YUGOSLAVIA. MACEDONIA WAS AND WILL BE GREEK
@yayha81 : The mother of Alexander the great was from DARDANIA( YLLIRIA ) = ALBANIEN, so hi was halv Albanien...THAT PART DID MAKE HIM . THE MAN. read real history. :)
@OxTubeful We will ask ancinet author Arrian. He will tell us who is right ;)
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas [Greece] and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you." - [Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius III of Persia, Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian]
@OxTubeful LOL you are such a reforged!!! He said thanks Gods i was born Greek. he also said i own my father my life but the beauty of life (wisdom) to my teacher- Aristotle. And you are a Serb/Bulgarian mix . The prove is your language. Aleksandar??? ALL the ancient texts call him ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ. Period.
@Irukandji78 yeah also the Americans are Macedonians and the French and all the other nations .... LOL you are such of a brain washed by your "politicians" ...but you will realize your fake beliveing sooner or later ... it is just a question of time. I am MACEDONIAN and a PROUD one! Macedonia TIMELESS! MACEDONIA, UNITED!
we know what we are we are macedonians and we dont need anybody to tell ass who we are especially not some filthy broke ass gay greeks so fuck off already who gives a fuck what you think!!!
Soon you' ll belong to Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia. You' ll never have a country on your own!! This dream that you live now, soon will end! hahahahahahahaha
Ancient Greeks stereotyped and called all non-Greeks barbarians.These included the Persians, Thracians, Illyrians, Macedonians, etc. The modern Greeks however,claims that Philip was Greek, and that Demosthenes called him "not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks" and "barbarian",it is very clear from Demosthenes’s words that he regards the Macedonians and their king Philip II as non-Greeks. This modern Greek position is easily debunked, however, when we consider the following two points:
a) If the Macedonians were Greeks but still called barbarians and are related to the Greeks, why is there no other Greek tribe called barbarians ? Yet no Spartan, Athenian, Theban, Epirote, was ever called non-Greek or barbarian during any of these political and war conflicts! Not ONCE!
b) ancient Greeks also called the Persians barbarians. Are we suppose to say now, based on the modern Greek "logic", that the Persians were also a Greek tribe ?
Ancient Greeks called all non-Greeks barbarians, and the modern Greek argument can simply not be true, and is quite frankly ridiculous. It does however, prove that modern Greek writers would go to make the Macedonians forcefully Greek, steel the Macedonian history, and even rewrite the feelings of thier ancient Greek ancesters.
After my opinion, the "real" Macedonian is in Greece. It is the north Greece.
The land Macedonia isn't real macedonia, just a slavic country.
If you see old maps, and maps ovr ancient greek, Macedonian is in Greece, only a little little bit is going out of the now time Greek border. But the biggest is in the Greece. So actually you can say the mostly mostly very mostly south Macedonian country is also macedonia, but who had belng to greece..
They have always wanted the port. All they can do is talk talk. In the past the ones who tried to walk met their doom. So molon labe to whom ever wants it!
I'm not gonna argue about who macedonians really are. I just want to cite a macedonian person who is a friend of mine: "Do you also have the stories about Hitar Petar in Bulgaria?", "Krali Marko is a Macedonian!", "You also have a city called like that in BG?". None of this affects the way I respect my friend. It only points out that if you want your people to truly develop a sense of national identity you should probably go a bit further than simply stealing from another country's folklore.
whatever may be meant by stray allusions to spoken 'Macedonian', all surviving epigraphical evidence from grave markers to public inscriptions is in Greek. This proves that Macedonia was, is and always will be a part of GREECE.
@DocumentaryMacedonia Balakn is greek and albanien....fuck them slav people...greek and albania is 1....brothers...we must get the slav OUT OF BALKAN....
@BERZITI: I BELONG IN FUCKING BALKAN FUCKING PIGFUCKER...youuuuuuuuu GO BACK TO RUSSIA FUCKING SLAV... I KNOW MYYYYYYYY HISTORY...I DONT NEEEED TO STEEL HISTORY FROM THE BALKANS...I-AM-BALKANER..YOOOUUU ARE- NOT-
@MrUFOwatcher1 - wel shqip , you are now long enough to call yourself BALKANER , but your roots are between Dagestan and Azerbejdjan , in Kafkaz Albania ! do you understud FUCKING SHQIP !!?? you have fake history , made in shoku Enveri Hohxa !
@BERZITI :yeah pedofhile slav YOU KEEEEEP BELIVING THAT..are seriusly RIGHT IN YOUR HEAD, does the slav people have they own innternett/wiki there them go and write the own history. DO YOU REALY THINK WE ARE FROM Dagestan and Azerbejdjan .BBfffffaaaaahahahahahahahaahah..super retardet slav.. seriusly. dont talk to me kid, go to school.
@MrUFOwatcher1 - " yeah right ", ha,ha, do you realy think that your ancestors are Iliryans !!!??? I was planning to go to Tirane to study there , to " learn" some " real " history . ha,ha,ha , retarded shqip katundar !
@BERZITI : That is somthing is Right, It's nothing i "think" as you putt it. Ps: Hey that IS the History, So ??? where you think you must go...?? to Russia...is the real history from the slavs..??? we ARE YLLIRIANS....MY GRAN and GRAN and GRAN and GRAN and GRAN FATHERS ARE YLLIRIANS form DARDANIA.-IF you got a problem with that go and live in Russia. IF NOT, RESPECT BALKANS for BALKANS and STOP twisting our history. Now...like a did say... i dont talk to retardet kids.. pleaze go away.
@MrUFOwatcher1 - " - if not respect balkans ... " !!!!??? and you respect me ??? how you are respect to get respect when you dont respect me ??? btw, Dardanians are not Iliryan tribe , they are Thracian tribe !
@BERZITI ....again.....read wiki...dont think by you self...you must read.."Most historians conclude that the Albanians are descendants of populations of the prehistoric Balkans, such as the Illyrians, Dacians or Thracians.<--" FROM WIKI..STOP CRYING...YOU ARE NOT BALKANS...THERFOR I DONT HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR PEOPLE-It's not eghoufh that you TRYING to stealing our history and TWISTING EVERYTHING-i'm from MAKEDONIA::NOT YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE; you are orgin from RUSSIA.stop thinking wrong.
@MrUFOwatcher1 - ypo are realy not good in your head ! WIKIPEDIA !!!!???? thats is your source !!!??? are you kiding me !!!??? you are in one word - PATHETIC ! You dont respect me becousse " I am not Balkan " !!!??? ha,ha,ha , do ypu respect Kafkaz ? Dagestan , Azerbeijan , Chechenia ? there are your roots Shqip ! KAFKAZ ALBANIA , you are brought by the Arabs to Sicilly , and latter by the George Maniakos, ( Byzantine general) to the Balkan ! in 11 century !
@BERZITI yooooo. sooo.... you are saying that Wiki is not real ???? who the fuck can Arabs "bring" us to balkan..who is not right...yo... this is getting to stupid..everyday i must fight for somthing i know...that is the real trhth...what you are saying is just retared...go to sleep now..or get the fuck out somtimes...
@MrUFOwatcher1 - I feel realy sorry for you if you are confused !!! Wikipedia is not a seriose source , you have lot of home work to do my shqipe shoku ! read Byzantine sources , first mentionig of Arbanas people are from 11 century !
@BERZITI : I can rad ALL i what about Byzantine .....BUT WE ARE NOT FROM THE MIDELEAST...WHT MAAAAAAAAAAAAN....what the fuck have a group of people (Byzantine ) have to do with the ylliria....
@MrUFOwatcher1 - Byzantine was not a group of people , that was the biggest Empire ! do you now what means the eagle on albanian flag ? that eagle is Byzantine simbol of the ortodox christianity !
@BERZITI : I know it was a empire...It's just the way i wirte it..But Yes i know all of that. But WE ARE Yllirians..okey... got it.. This week i have read EVERTHING over again to see what your are talking about. but Byzantine is not yllira, maby you right with Byzantine, but i'm talking about illiria..Byzantine is a another Empire...That was "born" in Balkan..The Yllirians wasent ...they always was there...and i ( The Albanien) got the real Balkan blood.
@Love4Palestin - " thanks" for your " information " , ha,ha,ha ! Turkish - Russian war !!!??? are you mad , or wat ? that war was in 19 century , ha,ha,ha ! and remember , they are not SLAV , the name is SLOVENI !
@MrUFOwatcher1 ::Fuck my sister....no no... we Albanien dont have the same orgin as you... we dont do stuff like that...pore slav vodka pig, you must change your tradison...
@zgoce2 Charnoea was civil war(Macedon vs Athens)not Macedon vs Greece. Second read this quote from Alex the Great!!"Holy shadows of the dead,I’m not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate,but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people,to fight one another.I do not feel happy for this victory of mine.On the contrary,I would be glad,brothers,if I had all of you standing here next to me,since we are united by the same language,the same blood and the same visions.
@zgoce2 This quote is writed by Quintus Qurfius Rufus, and is speech of Alexander after Chaernoea battle!! Second if you write lies that 40% of Greece are "gays" i will delete all your messages!! 96% of Greeks are religious peoples and they will never accept homosexuals in modern Greece!
Macedonian means Greek you idiot. Before Alexander we were fighting against eachother. You dont want to see what history tells and you prefer to listen to brainwashing subhuman communists in your monkeyland. Alexander and Macedonians were considereing them selfs Greeks, they spoke and wrote Greek they had Greek gods...you are just brainwashed. Nothing will save you, i hope albanians will show no mercy becose you supress them. No human rights for albanians in yugoslavia.
Bulgarian, serb, slav, albania, a thieve, a robber, a falsifier, rewritting history and stealling other culture and inherritage. You are a micky mouse "nation" you are monkeydonkeyan (monkey+donkey)
ew, first of all why am i watching something made by fox, how embarrassing..
second, although i do agree that every country should be called anything they want, it's weird that they would want to have a name that is associated with a country they dislike. they had a name before, why change it ?
After several months of stalemate, Philip finally advanced into Boeotia in an attempt to march on Thebes and Athens. Opposing him, and blocking the road near Chaeronea, was the allied Greek army, similar in size and occupying a strong position. Details of the ensuing battle are scarce, but after a long fight the Macedonians crushed both flanks of the allied line, which then dissolved into a rout.
When, in 340 BC, Athens formed an alliance with a city Philip was then besieging, he finally lost patience, and declared war on the Attic state. In summer 339 BC, Philip therefore led his army into Greece, prompting the formation of an alliance of Greek states opposed to him, led by Athens and Thebes.
Philip had brought peace to a war-torn Greece in 346 BC, by ending the Third Sacred War, and concluding his ten-year conflict with Athens for supremacy in the north Aegean, by making a separate peace. Philip's much expanded kingdom, powerful army and plentiful resources now made him the de facto "leader of Greece".
The Battle of Chaeronea was fought in 338 BC, near the city of Chaeronea in Boeotia, between the forces of Philip II of Macedon and an alliance of Greek city-states (the principal members of which were Athens and Thebes). The battle was the culmination of Philip's campaign in Greece (339–338 BC) and resulted in a decisive victory for the Macedonians.
@darepp5 very funny but your girls dream for greeks,because you are stupid. I do not know how stupid you must be to work in idiotic country for funny salary and to do nothing. All world protest but monkeydonians are good with 100 euro minimum salary. By the way in greece social help is much bigger than you average salary
bankrup said person with € 250 everage salary, 40% Islam and 33% unemployment. You will never get to the bankruptcy of Greece
@MKDTea read a book. dont hear americans, juws and the asholes that you have for goverment......or you are affraid to do that??? Because you will know the truth??? tell me whats does it mean alexander in your "macedonian"???? Means anything. Because in greek, it means protector, the one who push away men. And do you know why it has a meaning in greek? Because its a greek name.
That much I can say, without endless talking and without becoming tiresome, that she [Eusebia] is of a family line that is pure Greek, from the purest of Greeks, and her city is the metropolis of Macedonia. Julian, "Praise For The Empress Eusebia", p. 147'
but having perished in a skirmish with the Bulgarians, in 1207, his kingdom was invaded by the Greek despot, Theodore of Epirus who was received with open arms by the Greeks, and crowned emperor at Thessalonica in 1222. Adolphus Louis Koeppen, Danish historian, "The World in the Middle Ages: An Historical Geography, with Accounts of the Origin", Appleton, p.409
Im talking about real indigenous Macedonians living in Macedonian regions. Not Greeks from Athens not Albanians not Bulgarians real Macedonians who have been living in Macedonian regions for centuries they are real Macedonians not post 1913 imports to the region.
@panlogistics You're not Macedonian, brainwashed Titoic scum, you'll never be. You are slavobulgarian and you speak slavobulgarian. Before 1913 you were proud Bulgarians. There were no such thing as "Ethic Macedonians" in the area according to Ottomans. Only Greeks, Turks, Bulgarians. One day your grandperends they were proud Bulgarians and the next day...BUM! they became "Macedonians".
@BranxGram : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? where the FUCK do you get your info from ????? omg- you a a realy a retardet man....BEFOR SLAV ( Bulgarians, slovakians, serbs , bosnians, croat..) DID come to BALAKAN-- BALKAN WAS JUST ALBANIEN AND GREEK. fucking READ history- not slav propaganda. slav HAVE NO HISTORY IN BALKAN. THEY STOLD IT.
@panlogistics hahahahahahahahahaHAHhhahahaahaha stuuuupid fuck...dagoebam your mom...hahahahaha bulgaria...real balkans hahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA..GOOOO BACK YO RUSSIA FUCKERS.
MACEDONIA NEVER WAS NEVER WILL BE GREEK!! never had any conections with todays Greek country ... You occupied one part of the region Macedonia and you were lucky because in that region are the most important evidence of the ancient macedonian history , so you occupied a region aand with that region you occupied someone elses history ...so that doesnt mean you have anything with the Macedonian history !
@MKDTea In most of the towns of Macedonia the Greek element is the most conspicuous, and in some the wealthiest; trade and banking are to a great extent in their hands – although the Rumans and the Jews are keen competitors – and the shops and the inns all bear Greek inscriptions. In the cafes and public places one hears much Greek spoken, and most of the people with whom the traveler comes into contact are Greeks or Greeks speaking;
@MKDTea Macedonia is greek. and you know why its greek? first of all, the people who lived there were greeks. we know it because they talked greek, they had greek names.....but the most important evidence, is that macedonias, were able to participate in the olympic games. Only greeks were allowed there. no one else. You came to this land 1400 years before. Before then, you didnt even exist. you were slaves of different tribes who came from russia. nothing more nothing less.
The name macedonia is important for us because is our identity , and for you because you are filled with bullshit by your goverment who is trying to hide genocid of the Macedonian population that happend less then hundret years ago ...so stop the propaganda!!!
@MKDTea and about the goverment of greece. you should know that the greek goverment, is the bitch of the american goverment. So they will do as they say. Do you know why they havent accept you until know? because they will never be goverment again.
The modern Greek state was established in 1830 and if Macedonia was greek since the ancient time why did all the city states were part of Greece in that time and only Macedonian part was NOT????and why were they living only 7 % greeks and all the others were Macedonians that speak macedonian language in Augen part ??and why many macedonians that have properties there and were expelt after the Civil War CAN NOT enter Greece??are you hiding something??ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE FACTS?
@MKDTea Learn history firts, then talk. Corfu, Cyprus, macedonia, thessaly, epirus, thrace, aegean islands, creta, Konstantinoypoli, trabzon......they are greek regions. 7% greeks???????Are you nuts????? the 7% were the slavs who lived in the region of florina. of course they speak macedonian. all macedonia, from the ancient times until now speaks macedonian. spartan spoke macedonian, athenians, korinthians, and every greek speaks macedonian. because macedonian is the greek language.
@youzhi67 you are suprised ??? thats why except your books and your media and your goverment open real history books and documents from that time and see from which year Auegen Macedonia is part of Greece????and what was the population percent in that region!!! if ancient macedonia was hellenic then way in the modern greek teritory athens and sparta were part of it and only macedonia wasnt?? why you changed the names of the rivers, villiges, cityes?
@MKDTea the real history books and documents from that time proves that macedonia is greek. your books, your history begun since when????after tito??? aftre ww2??? our history begun thousands years before, when we were the only ones in europe. italy, spain, france, and norway, were populated after 1000 b.c. Before then, you like it or not only greeks were in europe.
@MKDTea Tell me why you say you are macedonians??? the ancient macedonians, spoke greek. lived like greeks. they called themselves greeks. they were educated like greeks. they learnt greek history. Why they did that???? egyptians didnt do that. persians too. why a foreign country did all that???
@MKDTea And let me tell you one last thing. if they werent greeks, why grreks followed them to asia???? do you believe that they concured greece???? tell me one histoy book that says macedonians concured greece. one. romans concured greeks. in every history book it is written. because they werent greeks. so, if they werent greeks they would concured greece. but because they were greeks history didnt wrote about a concuest, but wrote for a union. the first united greece.
@MKDTea you dont know what to say, because you know that you are wrong, so you say all this......if you are right, then rome is not italian. because at the ancient times this city, had a different name. paris too, berlin too, london too. so, paris is not french, berlin not greman.......do you know why the cities have different names????because they were dystroyed.......from byzantines, slavs(like you) and turks. the ones that they didnt destryed kept their names.
@MKDTea macedonia wasnt in greek teritory because the turks had macedonia. thrace, epirus, pontus agean islands. they were enslaved by them. thats why they werent in greece teritory. but at the war of 1912-1913 and ww1, they were liberated. the most of them. you dont know any of this because you didnt exist at that point of time. your history begun after ww2. and do you know why americans are with your side??because they want your uranium. thats why..but they all study that macedonia is greek
Macedonia is Macedonian not Greek, Not Serb, Not Bulgarian & Not Albanian. The people in all the Macedonian regions should either self identify as Macedonia or self identify as Greek, Bulgarian, or Albanian. But to be a true Macedonian one should not self identify as Greek or Bulgarian or Albanian but as a Macedonian.
@panlogistics Yes Macedonia is only one, but you are not real-Macedonians, you are Slav Macedonians ;) And in your country are 600.000 peoples who are Alboz dont forget :))
@DocumentaryMacedonia What is the meaning of slav Macedonians what do you want to say??? that we are mixed with the slavs when they come?? yes we are so and you, you are mixed with turks also us too, so you can be descedents of the ancient hellens and we because we are mixed we are not descedents of the ancient Macedonians?? bullshit !!! you have one part of the region but that doesnt make you Macedonians!!!stop the lies!!!
dude macedonia is a greek word..alexander is a greek name..macedonians used to speak greek,participate in the olympic games (even alexander did) and considered themselves greek..what gives any country the right to pronounce themselves macedonians while not being greeks?
@panlogistics How much of a fkn RETARD can u be?!! Seriously, check the fkn History books.. Check online everywhere.. Wikipedia, whatever... Every source identifies Macedonia as being GREEK... As Alexander as GREEK.. EVERY SOURCE.. I know u've been brainwashed from a young age, but Snap out of it.. Falsifying Facts and History is a Felony.. U and the rest of u fkn VARDASKANS should be fkn ashamed of urselves..
@panlogistics ... U cannot change History!! U cannot ALTER the TRUTH!!! Get it through ur thick VARDASKAN skull. "Alexandros"= "Alexo"= Protector, "Andros"= Man - "Macedonia"= "Makednos" = Tall Ones, Highlanders. ALL 100% GREEK words. U Slavic Skopjan Vardarska Bananovina Monkeydonian Bulgarian Rejects entered the Balkans a whole Millenium after Alexander Ruled the GREEK Kingdom of Macedonia.. U have absolutely NO relation with the REAL GREEK Macedonia. Now go tell ur Monkey friends too
@panlogistics Alexander III of Macedonia, Philip II Of Macedonia, Born in Pella, Macedonia, GREECE. The Sun of Vergina, which is the GREEK Symbol that u thieves tried to put on ur flag. 16 Rays. 12 of them represent the 12 Greek Gods of Olympus. The other 4 represent the 4 Elements (Earth, Wind, Fire, Water). "Philip"= Friend of Horse. "Philos"= Friend. "Ippos"= Horse. 100% GREEK. Tell me, what does Alexander mean in ur language?! What does Philip mean in ur language?! U got NOTHING. U FAIL.
@panlogistics ur ancestors have brainwashed u poor fools. It's pretty sad. U believe in a LIE and u have ZERO PROOF ZERO EVIDENCE. U try to alter Facts with ZERO success.. All u accomplish is utter embarrassment. Ur country never included the name MACEDONIA in it before 1991. U have NO History. U reside in an insignificant nation that never provided anything to this World. U suffer an IDENTITY CRISIS. U try to steal the Glorious GREEK Identity to have something to represent. U FAIL miserably.
“And when he [ALEXANDER] went up into the Temple, he offered sacrifice to God, according to the High Priest’s direction, and magnificently treated both the High Priest and the Priests. And when the Book of Daniel was showed him wherein Daniel declared that one of the GREEKS should destroy the Empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended.”
@panlogistics "Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are United by the SAME Language, the SAME Blood and the SAME Visions"
-Alexander the Great, addressing the dead GREEKS of the Battle of Chaeronea
The old Macedonia is now partitioned into 4 new parts of Macedonia i.e Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Macedonia all share a part of ancient Macedonia. So if your Macedonia say your Macedonian don't say your Greek or Bulgarian. I think the Greeks need to stop crying we understand you own part of Macedonia since 1903 and that part of Macedonian is now Greek hence the Greece is Macedonian phrase. But being Macedonian is being Macedonian nothing else
Greeks will never be Macedonian's they will always be Greek reason being they self identify as being Greek. Where as Macedonian's self identify as being Macedonian's. Self identification has been passed on from generation to generation. Macedonian is not Greek nor is Greek Macedonian. Macedonian is Macedonian and if you want to be Macedonian you must self identify as Macedonian and not Greek or Bulgarian or Russian etc.
Greeks, unlike you people, never say they are Macedonian, without being one. But all the Macedonians from Greece say they are Greeks.
I was quite interested in the dispute when I first saw it, but you guys lost it from the start.
"If you want to be Macedonian, you must self identify as Macedonian and not Greek".
Except you people, even the Makedones from Albania say that they are Greeks. But nooo, you are not Hellenic, like Macedonians, you are Slavs like Serbs and Bulgars.
here is to all, I'll even put in the steps here so you would know how to do it. Go to this link : ht tp : //translate. google. com /?hl= &ie= UTF- 8&text= &sl=es &tl= en#e n|hi| please remove the spaces. This is from english to hindu, because the Macedonian language is from the Hindu - European group of languages and write in the english box World of mother. And then press listen on the Hindu side and be amazed. Macedonia means motherland nothing more nothing less ;)
@shockolanu The ancient Macedonian language is lost, only 150 words are left and they are written in ancient Greek, Hellenic script, because the ancient Macedonians didn't have letters. Macedon doesn't exist in Hellenic, there is a theory that it comes from Macro which is a Greek word, but you don't see 'R' in Macedonia, so that's why I think its heritage can be seen in the Hindu language, the word Make witch means mother and donia which means land.
Macedonians didn't have letters? The Macedonian dialect of the ancient Hellenic language was written in Hellenic script because it was Hellenic. You confound the Macedonians with the Illyrians, whom indeed did not have writing.
You can go all the way to Hindu Kush to look for similarities between Bulgarian language and the ancient Hellenic dialect of Macedonian.
Also Thracians were Hellenes from Asia Minor whom migrated in 2000 BC. The Illyrians the same, they came from Troy. :P
It finally says the truth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke and wrote the greek language. The prove is the inscriptions who are in greek language only! Congratulations!
It finally says the truth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke and wrote the greek language. The prove is the inscriptions who are in greek language only! Congratulations!
Ii finally says the tuth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke the greek language! It seems from the inscriptions in greek language only! Congratulations!!!
Can anyone to show anything like inscription or some fact that the name, state or some ancient kingdom under the name of Greeks or Greece, as per name itself or whatever by name Hellas, or Elada had existed ever before XIX AD.?
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FYROMIANS ARE SLAVS AND THEIR LANGUAGE IS ALSO SLAVIC LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES(ABOUT 6 AD) AND BECAME CHRISTIANS FROM GREEKS. GREECE HAS THE OLDEST HISTORY IN EUROPE.According to Herodotus(ancient greek poet), the history of Macedonia began with the Makednoi tribe (makednos means "tall" in Ancient Greek). Alexander's the Great father was the Phillipos II. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE AND BEFORE BELONGED TO YUGOSLAVIA. MACEDONIA WAS AND WILL BE GREEK
mariosg931 15 hours ago
@yayha81 Yea i know you are not a Macedonian. You are a Slav.
Irukandji78 3 weeks ago
@yayha81 Macedonias are Greek so ..Alexander is Greek also. Tell me what Alexander means and in what language its written.
Irukandji78 3 weeks ago
@yayha81 : The mother of Alexander the great was from DARDANIA( YLLIRIA ) = ALBANIEN, so hi was halv Albanien...THAT PART DID MAKE HIM . THE MAN. read real history. :)
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@yayha81 Alexander the Great was Greek!
"Thanks to Gods to I have been born Greek" (Alexander the Great)
DocumentaryMacedonia 1 month ago 2
@DocumentaryMacedonia "Thanks to Gods I've been born Macedonian" (Aleksandar the Great) .... now ask him who is right!
OxTubeful 1 month ago
@OxTubeful We will ask ancinet author Arrian. He will tell us who is right ;)
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas [Greece] and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you." - [Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius III of Persia, Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian]
DocumentaryMacedonia 1 month ago
@OxTubeful LOL you are such a reforged!!! He said thanks Gods i was born Greek. he also said i own my father my life but the beauty of life (wisdom) to my teacher- Aristotle. And you are a Serb/Bulgarian mix . The prove is your language. Aleksandar??? ALL the ancient texts call him ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ. Period.
Irukandji78 3 weeks ago
@Irukandji78 yeah also the Americans are Macedonians and the French and all the other nations .... LOL you are such of a brain washed by your "politicians" ...but you will realize your fake beliveing sooner or later ... it is just a question of time. I am MACEDONIAN and a PROUD one! Macedonia TIMELESS! MACEDONIA, UNITED!
OxTubeful 2 weeks ago
@OxTubeful You dont have to ask him....Just read History you ape... ? :)
Irukandji78 3 weeks ago
@OxTubeful : are you slav. if you are , lol, you are NOT Macedonian..greeks and albanians are the REAL Macedonian and Balkans . just saying.
Love4Palestin 2 weeks ago
we know what we are we are macedonians and we dont need anybody to tell ass who we are especially not some filthy broke ass gay greeks so fuck off already who gives a fuck what you think!!!
gzstopankin 1 month ago
Soon you' ll belong to Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia. You' ll never have a country on your own!! This dream that you live now, soon will end! hahahahahahahaha
archaggeloswings 2 months ago
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Ancient Greeks stereotyped and called all non-Greeks barbarians.These included the Persians, Thracians, Illyrians, Macedonians, etc. The modern Greeks however,claims that Philip was Greek, and that Demosthenes called him "not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks" and "barbarian",it is very clear from Demosthenes’s words that he regards the Macedonians and their king Philip II as non-Greeks. This modern Greek position is easily debunked, however, when we consider the following two points:
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
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a) If the Macedonians were Greeks but still called barbarians and are related to the Greeks, why is there no other Greek tribe called barbarians ? Yet no Spartan, Athenian, Theban, Epirote, was ever called non-Greek or barbarian during any of these political and war conflicts! Not ONCE!
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
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b) ancient Greeks also called the Persians barbarians. Are we suppose to say now, based on the modern Greek "logic", that the Persians were also a Greek tribe ?
Ancient Greeks called all non-Greeks barbarians, and the modern Greek argument can simply not be true, and is quite frankly ridiculous. It does however, prove that modern Greek writers would go to make the Macedonians forcefully Greek, steel the Macedonian history, and even rewrite the feelings of thier ancient Greek ancesters.
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
Macedonia=Greece. Majmuns eat your hearts out
artemis20001000 2 months ago
Macedonia was a Bulgarian Province. greeks suck dick
iinnfff 2 months ago
After my opinion, the "real" Macedonian is in Greece. It is the north Greece.
The land Macedonia isn't real macedonia, just a slavic country.
If you see old maps, and maps ovr ancient greek, Macedonian is in Greece, only a little little bit is going out of the now time Greek border. But the biggest is in the Greece. So actually you can say the mostly mostly very mostly south Macedonian country is also macedonia, but who had belng to greece..
Macedonian is Greece!!
Quacko69 2 months ago
ЗАСЕКОГАШ М-А-К-Е-Д-О-Н-И-Ј-А
MegaSeker4e 2 months ago
They have always wanted the port. All they can do is talk talk. In the past the ones who tried to walk met their doom. So molon labe to whom ever wants it!
SamsonElitsa 2 months ago
MACEDONIA IS GREEK!
lefkosiatis 2 months ago
I'm not gonna argue about who macedonians really are. I just want to cite a macedonian person who is a friend of mine: "Do you also have the stories about Hitar Petar in Bulgaria?", "Krali Marko is a Macedonian!", "You also have a city called like that in BG?". None of this affects the way I respect my friend. It only points out that if you want your people to truly develop a sense of national identity you should probably go a bit further than simply stealing from another country's folklore.
dimplamen 2 months ago 2
whatever may be meant by stray allusions to spoken 'Macedonian', all surviving epigraphical evidence from grave markers to public inscriptions is in Greek. This proves that Macedonia was, is and always will be a part of GREECE.
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ=ΕΛΛΑΣ
KPAracing 3 months ago
I am proud Macedonian. :)
Filiip93 3 months ago
@Filiip93 Macedonia is Greek!
DocumentaryMacedonia 3 months ago
@DocumentaryMacedonia yeah right hahaah
MarkoDoktor 2 months ago
@DocumentaryMacedonia Balakn is greek and albanien....fuck them slav people...greek and albania is 1....brothers...we must get the slav OUT OF BALKAN....
MrUFOwatcher1 1 month ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - fuck yorself !
BERZITI 3 weeks ago
@BERZITI : no i can not. i fuck your sister insted..
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - I fuck all women in your family arab moron !
BERZITI 3 weeks ago
@BERZITI : Hey Slav drinking vodka pig fucker i'm Albanien.. so go and suck off your grandfather...fucking skum.
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - you are SHIPTAR ??? so what you smelly goatfucker ?? retarded moron ! go back to Kafkaz Albania where you bellong scumbag !
BERZITI 3 weeks ago
@BERZITI STUPID DICKHEAD ALBANIANS ARE ILLYRIANS !!!! WE ARE OLDER THAN GREEKS ON BALKAN !!!!!!
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
@BranxGram - yeah , " right " !
BERZITI 3 weeks ago
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@BranxGram Not older. but orgin from the same. but 2 difrent kultures. AND THEN SLAV DID COME..and FUCKT UP EVERYTHING WITH WARS.
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@BERZITI: I BELONG IN FUCKING BALKAN FUCKING PIGFUCKER...youuuuuuuuu GO BACK TO RUSSIA FUCKING SLAV... I KNOW MYYYYYYYY HISTORY...I DONT NEEEED TO STEEL HISTORY FROM THE BALKANS...I-AM-BALKANER..YOOOUUU ARE- NOT-
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - wel shqip , you are now long enough to call yourself BALKANER , but your roots are between Dagestan and Azerbejdjan , in Kafkaz Albania ! do you understud FUCKING SHQIP !!?? you have fake history , made in shoku Enveri Hohxa !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI :yeah pedofhile slav YOU KEEEEEP BELIVING THAT..are seriusly RIGHT IN YOUR HEAD, does the slav people have they own innternett/wiki there them go and write the own history. DO YOU REALY THINK WE ARE FROM Dagestan and Azerbejdjan .BBfffffaaaaahahahahahahahaahah..super retardet slav.. seriusly. dont talk to me kid, go to school.
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - " yeah right ", ha,ha, do you realy think that your ancestors are Iliryans !!!??? I was planning to go to Tirane to study there , to " learn" some " real " history . ha,ha,ha , retarded shqip katundar !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI : That is somthing is Right, It's nothing i "think" as you putt it. Ps: Hey that IS the History, So ??? where you think you must go...?? to Russia...is the real history from the slavs..??? we ARE YLLIRIANS....MY GRAN and GRAN and GRAN and GRAN and GRAN FATHERS ARE YLLIRIANS form DARDANIA.-IF you got a problem with that go and live in Russia. IF NOT, RESPECT BALKANS for BALKANS and STOP twisting our history. Now...like a did say... i dont talk to retardet kids.. pleaze go away.
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago 2
@MrUFOwatcher1 - " - if not respect balkans ... " !!!!??? and you respect me ??? how you are respect to get respect when you dont respect me ??? btw, Dardanians are not Iliryan tribe , they are Thracian tribe !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI ....again.....read wiki...dont think by you self...you must read.."Most historians conclude that the Albanians are descendants of populations of the prehistoric Balkans, such as the Illyrians, Dacians or Thracians.<--" FROM WIKI..STOP CRYING...YOU ARE NOT BALKANS...THERFOR I DONT HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR PEOPLE-It's not eghoufh that you TRYING to stealing our history and TWISTING EVERYTHING-i'm from MAKEDONIA::NOT YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE; you are orgin from RUSSIA.stop thinking wrong.
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - ypo are realy not good in your head ! WIKIPEDIA !!!!???? thats is your source !!!??? are you kiding me !!!??? you are in one word - PATHETIC ! You dont respect me becousse " I am not Balkan " !!!??? ha,ha,ha , do ypu respect Kafkaz ? Dagestan , Azerbeijan , Chechenia ? there are your roots Shqip ! KAFKAZ ALBANIA , you are brought by the Arabs to Sicilly , and latter by the George Maniakos, ( Byzantine general) to the Balkan ! in 11 century !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI yooooo. sooo.... you are saying that Wiki is not real ???? who the fuck can Arabs "bring" us to balkan..who is not right...yo... this is getting to stupid..everyday i must fight for somthing i know...that is the real trhth...what you are saying is just retared...go to sleep now..or get the fuck out somtimes...
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - I feel realy sorry for you if you are confused !!! Wikipedia is not a seriose source , you have lot of home work to do my shqipe shoku ! read Byzantine sources , first mentionig of Arbanas people are from 11 century !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI : I can rad ALL i what about Byzantine .....BUT WE ARE NOT FROM THE MIDELEAST...WHT MAAAAAAAAAAAAN....what the fuck have a group of people (Byzantine ) have to do with the ylliria....
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 - Byzantine was not a group of people , that was the biggest Empire ! do you now what means the eagle on albanian flag ? that eagle is Byzantine simbol of the ortodox christianity !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
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@BERZITI : I know it was a empire...It's just the way i wirte it..But Yes i know all of that. But WE ARE Yllirians..okey... got it.. This week i have read EVERTHING over again to see what your are talking about. but Byzantine is not yllira, maby you right with Byzantine, but i'm talking about illiria..Byzantine is a another Empire...That was "born" in Balkan..The Yllirians wasent ...they always was there...and i ( The Albanien) got the real Balkan blood.
MrUFOwatcher1 2 weeks ago
@BERZITI :: Mrufowatcher1 is right man....just give it up. you orgin IS from russia.. you stayid in Balkan after the Russian vs Turky war..(tzar war)
To ALL SLAV IN BALKAN. ====>
/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians#cite_note-bonefoy-1
Love4Palestin 2 weeks ago
@Love4Palestin - " thanks" for your " information " , ha,ha,ha ! Turkish - Russian war !!!??? are you mad , or wat ? that war was in 19 century , ha,ha,ha ! and remember , they are not SLAV , the name is SLOVENI !
BERZITI 2 weeks ago
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MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
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@MrUFOwatcher1 ::Fuck my sister....no no... we Albanien dont have the same orgin as you... we dont do stuff like that...pore slav vodka pig, you must change your tradison...
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
I really really can not understand one thing!
First war conquest of Philip, Alexanders dad, was a conquest of Greece!!!
So Philip, the king of Macedonia, smashed Greeks like a joke!!!
How come now you are saying that Philip or Alexander were Greeks???
Until the WWII Greece was a province a small country, with people that wave dark skin like a Gypsies, or Egyptians...
I don't wanna mention a gay population of 40%....
So come on!!!!!!!
How long you think this shit will hold????
bwahhhhhhh
zgoce2 1 month ago
@zgoce2 Charnoea was civil war(Macedon vs Athens)not Macedon vs Greece. Second read this quote from Alex the Great!!"Holy shadows of the dead,I’m not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate,but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people,to fight one another.I do not feel happy for this victory of mine.On the contrary,I would be glad,brothers,if I had all of you standing here next to me,since we are united by the same language,the same blood and the same visions.
DocumentaryMacedonia 1 month ago
@zgoce2 This quote is writed by Quintus Qurfius Rufus, and is speech of Alexander after Chaernoea battle!! Second if you write lies that 40% of Greece are "gays" i will delete all your messages!! 96% of Greeks are religious peoples and they will never accept homosexuals in modern Greece!
DocumentaryMacedonia 1 month ago
@zgoce2 hahahaahahahahahahahahha u are right that greece was a province a small country with people that wave dark skin like gypsies !!
peace from albania
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
@BranxGram : gypsies are from India...
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 i know it but the slavic population cames from the carpathian mountains LIKE GYPSIES !!!!!!!
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
@BranxGram . "Like" :D true :)
MrUFOwatcher1 3 weeks ago
@MrUFOwatcher1 serbs are little pickas who killed children and old men women who didn't fight !!!!!
i wish next time they were be all dead and the peace on balkan comes back !!
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
@Filiip93 So, you are a proud Hellene living in a country occupied by Albanians, Serbians and Bulgarians?
My friend, you have to get out of there soon.
shockolanu 3 months ago
@Filiip93
You are slav WE ARE MACEDONIANS AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE GREEKS MORE THAN 2500YEARS !
EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@EllinonEnosis I don't know how you can tell that Alexander the Macedonian was Greek and his father, Philip, was Macedonian who fought with Greeks???
MrDockas 2 months ago
@MrDockas
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EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@MrDockas
history-of-macedonia com/wordpress/2009/03/01/archaeology-magazine-letter-to-the-editor-by-professor-stephen-g-miller/
EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@MrDockas
I hope the albanians make you like Kosovo.
EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@MrDockas
Macedonian means Greek you idiot. Before Alexander we were fighting against eachother. You dont want to see what history tells and you prefer to listen to brainwashing subhuman communists in your monkeyland. Alexander and Macedonians were considereing them selfs Greeks, they spoke and wrote Greek they had Greek gods...you are just brainwashed. Nothing will save you, i hope albanians will show no mercy becose you supress them. No human rights for albanians in yugoslavia.
EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@EllinonEnosis Yes, you are right!!
Quacko69 2 months ago
@EllinonEnosis down with the slavic bitches
BranxGram 3 weeks ago 2
@Filiip93
Bulgarian, serb, slav, albania, a thieve, a robber, a falsifier, rewritting history and stealling other culture and inherritage. You are a micky mouse "nation" you are monkeydonkeyan (monkey+donkey)
EllinonEnosis 2 months ago
@EllinonEnosis suck dick gayreek you steal history from albanians not albanians from u !!! stupid dickhead !!!
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
ew, first of all why am i watching something made by fox, how embarrassing..
second, although i do agree that every country should be called anything they want, it's weird that they would want to have a name that is associated with a country they dislike. they had a name before, why change it ?
greekcuty66 3 months ago
After several months of stalemate, Philip finally advanced into Boeotia in an attempt to march on Thebes and Athens. Opposing him, and blocking the road near Chaeronea, was the allied Greek army, similar in size and occupying a strong position. Details of the ensuing battle are scarce, but after a long fight the Macedonians crushed both flanks of the allied line, which then dissolved into a rout.
Motleyman007 4 months ago
When, in 340 BC, Athens formed an alliance with a city Philip was then besieging, he finally lost patience, and declared war on the Attic state. In summer 339 BC, Philip therefore led his army into Greece, prompting the formation of an alliance of Greek states opposed to him, led by Athens and Thebes.
Motleyman007 4 months ago
Philip had brought peace to a war-torn Greece in 346 BC, by ending the Third Sacred War, and concluding his ten-year conflict with Athens for supremacy in the north Aegean, by making a separate peace. Philip's much expanded kingdom, powerful army and plentiful resources now made him the de facto "leader of Greece".
Motleyman007 4 months ago
The Battle of Chaeronea was fought in 338 BC, near the city of Chaeronea in Boeotia, between the forces of Philip II of Macedon and an alliance of Greek city-states (the principal members of which were Athens and Thebes). The battle was the culmination of Philip's campaign in Greece (339–338 BC) and resulted in a decisive victory for the Macedonians.
Motleyman007 4 months ago
Macedonia timeless- don't FYROM me call my name Macedonia
darepp5 4 months ago
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@darepp5 very funny but your girls dream for greeks,because you are stupid. I do not know how stupid you must be to work in idiotic country for funny salary and to do nothing. All world protest but monkeydonians are good with 100 euro minimum salary. By the way in greece social help is much bigger than you average salary
bankrup said person with € 250 everage salary, 40% Islam and 33% unemployment. You will never get to the bankruptcy of Greece
realworld5555 3 months ago
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Macedonia = (Ancient Macedonia, Roma Macedonia, Ottoman region Macedonia, Modern Republic of Macedonia)
Greece - 1828 -....
Manchevo 5 months ago
Check and look the expansion of macedonia over time on a map.
Want to quarrel over a name of its related history ? So to say over territory. Look at maps. As a consequence, stop quarreling...
ApoNapo4 5 months ago
greece going down :( poor malakas
MKDMarjan 5 months ago
@MKDMarjan compared to your country .. it is already down ..... lies about the name " macedonia"
and all arounf the world kknows it .... feel sorrow for your lies of your country ... and let others care about greece!
marioorange 5 months ago
@MKDMarjan say compete beggar
realworld5555 3 months ago
@MKDTea read a book. dont hear americans, juws and the asholes that you have for goverment......or you are affraid to do that??? Because you will know the truth??? tell me whats does it mean alexander in your "macedonian"???? Means anything. Because in greek, it means protector, the one who push away men. And do you know why it has a meaning in greek? Because its a greek name.
youzhi67 5 months ago
MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND ALLWAYS BE HELLENIC!!!
kostasdania 5 months ago
That much I can say, without endless talking and without becoming tiresome, that she [Eusebia] is of a family line that is pure Greek, from the purest of Greeks, and her city is the metropolis of Macedonia. Julian, "Praise For The Empress Eusebia", p. 147'
gladiator7292 6 months ago
but having perished in a skirmish with the Bulgarians, in 1207, his kingdom was invaded by the Greek despot, Theodore of Epirus who was received with open arms by the Greeks, and crowned emperor at Thessalonica in 1222. Adolphus Louis Koeppen, Danish historian, "The World in the Middle Ages: An Historical Geography, with Accounts of the Origin", Appleton, p.409
gladiator7292 6 months ago
Im talking about real indigenous Macedonians living in Macedonian regions. Not Greeks from Athens not Albanians not Bulgarians real Macedonians who have been living in Macedonian regions for centuries they are real Macedonians not post 1913 imports to the region.
panlogistics 6 months ago 2
@panlogistics Why i cant found Macedonins in Ottoman censuses, why you are liar?
DocumentaryMacedonia 6 months ago
@DocumentaryMacedonia
Why don't you ask Turkey they recognise Macedonia fully i am sure they will give you all the documentation you need
panlogistics 6 months ago
@panlogistics You're not Macedonian, brainwashed Titoic scum, you'll never be. You are slavobulgarian and you speak slavobulgarian. Before 1913 you were proud Bulgarians. There were no such thing as "Ethic Macedonians" in the area according to Ottomans. Only Greeks, Turks, Bulgarians. One day your grandperends they were proud Bulgarians and the next day...BUM! they became "Macedonians".
artemis20001000 2 months ago
@artemis20001000 only greeks,turks,bulgarian?????? suck dick there were albanians too !!
BranxGram 3 weeks ago
@BranxGram yes, there were Albanians too, Serbs and ROMA
artemis20001000 3 weeks ago
@BranxGram : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? where the FUCK do you get your info from ????? omg- you a a realy a retardet man....BEFOR SLAV ( Bulgarians, slovakians, serbs , bosnians, croat..) DID come to BALAKAN-- BALKAN WAS JUST ALBANIEN AND GREEK. fucking READ history- not slav propaganda. slav HAVE NO HISTORY IN BALKAN. THEY STOLD IT.
Love4Palestin 3 weeks ago
@panlogistics hahahahahahahahahaHAHhhahahaahaha stuuuupid fuck...dagoebam your mom...hahahahaha bulgaria...real balkans hahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA..GOOOO BACK YO RUSSIA FUCKERS.
MACEDONIA IS GREEK AND ALBANIEN
MrUFOwatcher1 1 month ago
MACEDONIA NEVER WAS NEVER WILL BE GREEK!! never had any conections with todays Greek country ... You occupied one part of the region Macedonia and you were lucky because in that region are the most important evidence of the ancient macedonian history , so you occupied a region aand with that region you occupied someone elses history ...so that doesnt mean you have anything with the Macedonian history !
MKDTea 6 months ago
@MKDTea In most of the towns of Macedonia the Greek element is the most conspicuous, and in some the wealthiest; trade and banking are to a great extent in their hands – although the Rumans and the Jews are keen competitors – and the shops and the inns all bear Greek inscriptions. In the cafes and public places one hears much Greek spoken, and most of the people with whom the traveler comes into contact are Greeks or Greeks speaking;
L.Villari, National Geographic , 1912
gladiator7292 6 months ago
@MKDTea Macedonia is greek. and you know why its greek? first of all, the people who lived there were greeks. we know it because they talked greek, they had greek names.....but the most important evidence, is that macedonias, were able to participate in the olympic games. Only greeks were allowed there. no one else. You came to this land 1400 years before. Before then, you didnt even exist. you were slaves of different tribes who came from russia. nothing more nothing less.
youzhi67 5 months ago
The name macedonia is important for us because is our identity , and for you because you are filled with bullshit by your goverment who is trying to hide genocid of the Macedonian population that happend less then hundret years ago ...so stop the propaganda!!!
MKDTea 6 months ago
@MKDTea and about the goverment of greece. you should know that the greek goverment, is the bitch of the american goverment. So they will do as they say. Do you know why they havent accept you until know? because they will never be goverment again.
youzhi67 5 months ago
The modern Greek state was established in 1830 and if Macedonia was greek since the ancient time why did all the city states were part of Greece in that time and only Macedonian part was NOT????and why were they living only 7 % greeks and all the others were Macedonians that speak macedonian language in Augen part ??and why many macedonians that have properties there and were expelt after the Civil War CAN NOT enter Greece??are you hiding something??ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE FACTS?
MKDTea 6 months ago
@MKDTea Learn history firts, then talk. Corfu, Cyprus, macedonia, thessaly, epirus, thrace, aegean islands, creta, Konstantinoypoli, trabzon......they are greek regions. 7% greeks???????Are you nuts????? the 7% were the slavs who lived in the region of florina. of course they speak macedonian. all macedonia, from the ancient times until now speaks macedonian. spartan spoke macedonian, athenians, korinthians, and every greek speaks macedonian. because macedonian is the greek language.
youzhi67 5 months ago
@youzhi67 you are suprised ??? thats why except your books and your media and your goverment open real history books and documents from that time and see from which year Auegen Macedonia is part of Greece????and what was the population percent in that region!!! if ancient macedonia was hellenic then way in the modern greek teritory athens and sparta were part of it and only macedonia wasnt?? why you changed the names of the rivers, villiges, cityes?
MKDTea 5 months ago
@MKDTea the real history books and documents from that time proves that macedonia is greek. your books, your history begun since when????after tito??? aftre ww2??? our history begun thousands years before, when we were the only ones in europe. italy, spain, france, and norway, were populated after 1000 b.c. Before then, you like it or not only greeks were in europe.
youzhi67 5 months ago
@MKDTea Tell me why you say you are macedonians??? the ancient macedonians, spoke greek. lived like greeks. they called themselves greeks. they were educated like greeks. they learnt greek history. Why they did that???? egyptians didnt do that. persians too. why a foreign country did all that???
youzhi67 5 months ago
@MKDTea And let me tell you one last thing. if they werent greeks, why grreks followed them to asia???? do you believe that they concured greece???? tell me one histoy book that says macedonians concured greece. one. romans concured greeks. in every history book it is written. because they werent greeks. so, if they werent greeks they would concured greece. but because they were greeks history didnt wrote about a concuest, but wrote for a union. the first united greece.
youzhi67 5 months ago
@MKDTea you dont know what to say, because you know that you are wrong, so you say all this......if you are right, then rome is not italian. because at the ancient times this city, had a different name. paris too, berlin too, london too. so, paris is not french, berlin not greman.......do you know why the cities have different names????because they were dystroyed.......from byzantines, slavs(like you) and turks. the ones that they didnt destryed kept their names.
youzhi67 5 months ago
@MKDTea macedonia wasnt in greek teritory because the turks had macedonia. thrace, epirus, pontus agean islands. they were enslaved by them. thats why they werent in greece teritory. but at the war of 1912-1913 and ww1, they were liberated. the most of them. you dont know any of this because you didnt exist at that point of time. your history begun after ww2. and do you know why americans are with your side??because they want your uranium. thats why..but they all study that macedonia is greek
youzhi67 5 months ago
Macedonia is Macedonian not Greek, Not Serb, Not Bulgarian & Not Albanian. The people in all the Macedonian regions should either self identify as Macedonia or self identify as Greek, Bulgarian, or Albanian. But to be a true Macedonian one should not self identify as Greek or Bulgarian or Albanian but as a Macedonian.
panlogistics 6 months ago
@panlogistics Yes Macedonia is only one, but you are not real-Macedonians, you are Slav Macedonians ;) And in your country are 600.000 peoples who are Alboz dont forget :))
DocumentaryMacedonia 6 months ago
@DocumentaryMacedonia What is the meaning of slav Macedonians what do you want to say??? that we are mixed with the slavs when they come?? yes we are so and you, you are mixed with turks also us too, so you can be descedents of the ancient hellens and we because we are mixed we are not descedents of the ancient Macedonians?? bullshit !!! you have one part of the region but that doesnt make you Macedonians!!!stop the lies!!!
MKDTea 6 months ago
@MKDTea
Your customs, your names, your blood, your language and your history are pure Slavic.
The lands you call Macedonia were never called Macedonia except during the Roman occupation, prior to the breaking of the Roman Empire in two.
Are you the Latins of the area, so that you will have the right to call that region Macedonia? No. You are Slavs.
shockolanu 6 months ago
@panlogistics This is just an excuse for the existence of your disney fake country
Katerinoula1980 6 months ago
@panlogistics
dude macedonia is a greek word..alexander is a greek name..macedonians used to speak greek,participate in the olympic games (even alexander did) and considered themselves greek..what gives any country the right to pronounce themselves macedonians while not being greeks?
mikepitgate7 5 months ago
@panlogistics The Sparta Is Spartan Not Greek!!!!!!hahahaha You Are completely IDIOT...
andyrockevo 5 months ago
@panlogistics How much of a fkn RETARD can u be?!! Seriously, check the fkn History books.. Check online everywhere.. Wikipedia, whatever... Every source identifies Macedonia as being GREEK... As Alexander as GREEK.. EVERY SOURCE.. I know u've been brainwashed from a young age, but Snap out of it.. Falsifying Facts and History is a Felony.. U and the rest of u fkn VARDASKANS should be fkn ashamed of urselves..
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
@panlogistics ... U cannot change History!! U cannot ALTER the TRUTH!!! Get it through ur thick VARDASKAN skull. "Alexandros"= "Alexo"= Protector, "Andros"= Man - "Macedonia"= "Makednos" = Tall Ones, Highlanders. ALL 100% GREEK words. U Slavic Skopjan Vardarska Bananovina Monkeydonian Bulgarian Rejects entered the Balkans a whole Millenium after Alexander Ruled the GREEK Kingdom of Macedonia.. U have absolutely NO relation with the REAL GREEK Macedonia. Now go tell ur Monkey friends too
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
@panlogistics Alexander III of Macedonia, Philip II Of Macedonia, Born in Pella, Macedonia, GREECE. The Sun of Vergina, which is the GREEK Symbol that u thieves tried to put on ur flag. 16 Rays. 12 of them represent the 12 Greek Gods of Olympus. The other 4 represent the 4 Elements (Earth, Wind, Fire, Water). "Philip"= Friend of Horse. "Philos"= Friend. "Ippos"= Horse. 100% GREEK. Tell me, what does Alexander mean in ur language?! What does Philip mean in ur language?! U got NOTHING. U FAIL.
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SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
@panlogistics ur ancestors have brainwashed u poor fools. It's pretty sad. U believe in a LIE and u have ZERO PROOF ZERO EVIDENCE. U try to alter Facts with ZERO success.. All u accomplish is utter embarrassment. Ur country never included the name MACEDONIA in it before 1991. U have NO History. U reside in an insignificant nation that never provided anything to this World. U suffer an IDENTITY CRISIS. U try to steal the Glorious GREEK Identity to have something to represent. U FAIL miserably.
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
@panlogistics
“And when he [ALEXANDER] went up into the Temple, he offered sacrifice to God, according to the High Priest’s direction, and magnificently treated both the High Priest and the Priests. And when the Book of Daniel was showed him wherein Daniel declared that one of the GREEKS should destroy the Empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended.”
[Antiquities of the Jews 11.329]
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
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@panlogistics "Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are United by the SAME Language, the SAME Blood and the SAME Visions"
-Alexander the Great, addressing the dead GREEKS of the Battle of Chaeronea
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
"I Praise the Gods because I was Born GREEK" -Alexander the Great
SpartanKing2782 5 months ago
The old Macedonia is now partitioned into 4 new parts of Macedonia i.e Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Macedonia all share a part of ancient Macedonia. So if your Macedonia say your Macedonian don't say your Greek or Bulgarian. I think the Greeks need to stop crying we understand you own part of Macedonia since 1903 and that part of Macedonian is now Greek hence the Greece is Macedonian phrase. But being Macedonian is being Macedonian nothing else
panlogistics 6 months ago
Greeks will never be Macedonian's they will always be Greek reason being they self identify as being Greek. Where as Macedonian's self identify as being Macedonian's. Self identification has been passed on from generation to generation. Macedonian is not Greek nor is Greek Macedonian. Macedonian is Macedonian and if you want to be Macedonian you must self identify as Macedonian and not Greek or Bulgarian or Russian etc.
panlogistics 6 months ago
@panlogistics
Your country belonged to the Byzantine Empire until the Ottoman conquest under the name Vardar.
Basil II was Macedonian, not Bulgarian. He fought against Samuil of Bulgaria, the national hero of FYROM.
shockolanu 6 months ago
@panlogistics
Greeks, unlike you people, never say they are Macedonian, without being one. But all the Macedonians from Greece say they are Greeks.
I was quite interested in the dispute when I first saw it, but you guys lost it from the start.
"If you want to be Macedonian, you must self identify as Macedonian and not Greek".
Except you people, even the Makedones from Albania say that they are Greeks. But nooo, you are not Hellenic, like Macedonians, you are Slavs like Serbs and Bulgars.
shockolanu 6 months ago
here is to all, I'll even put in the steps here so you would know how to do it. Go to this link : ht tp : //translate. google. com /?hl= &ie= UTF- 8&text= &sl=es &tl= en#e n|hi| please remove the spaces. This is from english to hindu, because the Macedonian language is from the Hindu - European group of languages and write in the english box World of mother. And then press listen on the Hindu side and be amazed. Macedonia means motherland nothing more nothing less ;)
Talemk1 6 months ago
@Talemk1
So what?
Pula means dick in Romanian, is a city in Croatia, a village in Hungary and the national currency of Botswana...
Macedon is from Hellenic language and means tall man.
Can you find any Bulgarian words that mean something in the language you unlawfully call Macedonian?
shockolanu 6 months ago
@shockolanu The ancient Macedonian language is lost, only 150 words are left and they are written in ancient Greek, Hellenic script, because the ancient Macedonians didn't have letters. Macedon doesn't exist in Hellenic, there is a theory that it comes from Macro which is a Greek word, but you don't see 'R' in Macedonia, so that's why I think its heritage can be seen in the Hindu language, the word Make witch means mother and donia which means land.
Talemk1 6 months ago
@Talemk1
Macedonians didn't have letters? The Macedonian dialect of the ancient Hellenic language was written in Hellenic script because it was Hellenic. You confound the Macedonians with the Illyrians, whom indeed did not have writing.
You can go all the way to Hindu Kush to look for similarities between Bulgarian language and the ancient Hellenic dialect of Macedonian.
Also Thracians were Hellenes from Asia Minor whom migrated in 2000 BC. The Illyrians the same, they came from Troy. :P
shockolanu 6 months ago
What a CRAP .
Macedonia was devided by the same shitheads that made this story .
Your Map that you show is wrong.
And stop this bullshit propaganda against Macedonians.
We will never be greek
And about Phillip ll thomb - Artifact's that shows differences between Macedonians and greeks are emmidiately hidden .
More - see - The Treaty of Bucharest 10 August 1913
PaunBTMakedonski 7 months ago
@PaunBTMakedonski
Actually you are correct, you so-called 'Slavomacedonians' of FYRoM
are a Slav people related to the Bulgarians,
and you settled in the Balkans in the 7th century AD.
1000 years after Alexander the great lived.
You have NO CONNECTION with the ancient
Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great
who were an ethnic GREEK / GREEK SPEAKING TRIBE.
Besides which, 95% of ANCIENT Macedonia is
in GREECE, in Greece's province of Macedonia."
HaggisMacfee 6 months ago
@PaunBTMakedonkey
Of course you so-called slavomacedonians of FYRoM
are NOT Greek. You are SLAVS related to Bulgarians
and you speak a dialect of Bulgarian.
HaggisMacfee 6 months ago
@PaunBTMakedonski Encynclopaidia Britannica (ed1911) about the population in Macedonia:
Bulgarians, Turks, Albanians, Greeks, Vlachs, Jews,Roma...
I cannot see any ''Macedonian'' nation referred there. Maybe yours ancestors were invisible, or Britannica of 1911 was making greek propagand
gladiator7292 6 months ago
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It finally says the truth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke and wrote the greek language. The prove is the inscriptions who are in greek language only! Congratulations!
Antonia641 7 months ago
It finally says the truth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke and wrote the greek language. The prove is the inscriptions who are in greek language only! Congratulations!
Antonia641 7 months ago
Ii finally says the tuth! The Macedonians are not a nation, they are an ancient greek tribe who spoke the greek language! It seems from the inscriptions in greek language only! Congratulations!!!
Antonia641 7 months ago
JUST GREEK PROPAGANDA NOTHING ELSE!!
Can anyone to show anything like inscription or some fact that the name, state or some ancient kingdom under the name of Greeks or Greece, as per name itself or whatever by name Hellas, or Elada had existed ever before XIX AD.?
tripleMboy 7 months ago
@tripleMboy
Well, we can show you 60,000 ancient Macedonian
inscriptions which are ALL IN GREEK.
And ancient Macedonia was an ancient Greek kindom
inhabited by an ancient ethnic Greek / Greek speaking tribe.
HaggisMacfee 6 months ago