PASEN LA VOZ, NO COMPREN EN JASCO PARTES DE BICI, YA QUE TE PARAN ESTAFANDO, ME AN ECHO IR POR PARTES MAS DE UNA VEZ, Y EN LO QUE VA, YA ME ARTE, ES UNA ESTAFA, TE DICEN VIENE TODO EL JUEGO Y A LA HORA QUE VIENE, TE DICEN NO ES POR PARTES, ME E GASTADO CASI 1 000 DOLARES EN UNOS AROS SHIMANO, EL JUEGO COMPLETO Y AHORA QUE LO ESTOY ARMANDO NO VINO TODO
do you really think that shimano engineers are so dumb to not to think about this? this can be nothing but a design decision of those engineers, not that they do not how to make those things stiffer...
I'd rather have the one that gives in bumps. Would you lock your knees over bumps or have them bent ready to give to absorb shock?
Notice the chain moves the same amount up and down and the dérailleurs keep the chain line (on the same gear).
Extra chain tension is a source of wasted energy due to higher friction, so a stiff spring isn't a good thing. The 2011 Dynasys system from Shimano reduces chain tension even more.
were derailleurs intended to be used with chain tensioners for single ring? i am thinking of goign to single or dual ring for my full sus and even my hardtail as chain slap on hardtails is awful. when running single ring can you still use most of the rear gears
I had a shimano derailleur on my old bike, switched to sram now, for the X-0, and it's just soooooooo much better, would never ever buy that shimano derailleur ever again, but the X-0 fucking rocks!! if you have the money that is (220€)
you guys do know that both still have the same amount of chain slap onto the frame right? the movement of the dérailleur it self has nothing to do with how much the chain is moving, or slapping against the frame.
умники блеать! два миханизма, работающих по разному принципу, сравнивать таким образом очень глупо! Да и shimano сейчас идут совсем другие!
parfenoo 7 months ago
PASEN LA VOZ, NO COMPREN EN JASCO PARTES DE BICI, YA QUE TE PARAN ESTAFANDO, ME AN ECHO IR POR PARTES MAS DE UNA VEZ, Y EN LO QUE VA, YA ME ARTE, ES UNA ESTAFA, TE DICEN VIENE TODO EL JUEGO Y A LA HORA QUE VIENE, TE DICEN NO ES POR PARTES, ME E GASTADO CASI 1 000 DOLARES EN UNOS AROS SHIMANO, EL JUEGO COMPLETO Y AHORA QUE LO ESTOY ARMANDO NO VINO TODO
kollymakiya 7 months ago
filmed with a potatoe?
BasaltGiraffe 7 months ago
shimano actually works in this vid
Majrek 7 months ago
SRAM IS THE BEST
baze12342 7 months ago
do you really think that shimano engineers are so dumb to not to think about this? this can be nothing but a design decision of those engineers, not that they do not how to make those things stiffer...
setupDisk 1 year ago
Video is really old.
I'd rather have the one that gives in bumps. Would you lock your knees over bumps or have them bent ready to give to absorb shock?
Notice the chain moves the same amount up and down and the dérailleurs keep the chain line (on the same gear).
Extra chain tension is a source of wasted energy due to higher friction, so a stiff spring isn't a good thing. The 2011 Dynasys system from Shimano reduces chain tension even more.
Shimano = smoother, quieter, longer lasting
Varaxis 1 year ago
its not that shimano is bad. sram just has a fixed b screw
rockinsurfkid 1 year ago
this video is pretty old. today shimano and sram (XTR-X9) do identical performance.
Micantropo78 1 year ago
were derailleurs intended to be used with chain tensioners for single ring? i am thinking of goign to single or dual ring for my full sus and even my hardtail as chain slap on hardtails is awful. when running single ring can you still use most of the rear gears
Lunarlaserranging 1 year ago
TBH, both of these dérailleurs are shit
meandkg 1 year ago
I had a shimano derailleur on my old bike, switched to sram now, for the X-0, and it's just soooooooo much better, would never ever buy that shimano derailleur ever again, but the X-0 fucking rocks!! if you have the money that is (220€)
s38a5t13n 2 years ago
i did not want 2 look at this because i dont no fuck all about but i have 2 say sram looks smoother 4 sure
bassglx 2 years ago
boo yea!!! sram is the shit
theBIGmike03 2 years ago 2
specialy if you realize what does 'sram' mean in Polish language :P there's no way to be serious brand in Poland ;D
Saeglopur89 1 year ago
I would be interested to see the comparison between sram and the new shadow mechs from shimano.
freedirk 3 years ago
sram is here to stay shimano is trying so much that the r just not as good as they use to be sram in the furtur
torqu123321 3 years ago
08 xt vs 08 x-9,which one is better you think?because i got both of em,and i have to sale one of em...thanks!!
liuwenjie6678 3 years ago
@liuwenjie6678
and your decision was....?
I bet you sold the shimano one
helmetless 2 years ago
pa sta,vise je stegnut..
lol
dac17018 4 years ago
you guys do know that both still have the same amount of chain slap onto the frame right? the movement of the dérailleur it self has nothing to do with how much the chain is moving, or slapping against the frame.
nivram85 4 years ago
as can be seen in the film!
Axbent 3 years ago
ive broken 2 shimano mechs, no sram mechs... I agree, sram rules!!!
Robingraham10 5 years ago
sram rules!
bigpimpdaddie 5 years ago