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  • Elvis and Jerry Lee have their "impersonators." Why not the R&R black stars of the 50s and 60s?

  • short guy: fred kemp?

  • warren bell on alto? short tenor player: fred kemp.

  • Great song. I love Fats, but i like that New Orleans tenor sax sound even more.

  • was that atcually dizz, or was the guy playing a horn similar to dizzy's?

  • @willwelsh816 Hi Will. That;s the famous songwriter and trumpeter Dave Bartholomew. I think Dizzy's horn happened accidentally, but eventually somebody made them like that. Listened to much Duane Allman yet? He's my favourite.

  • The first record I ever bought (in mid-50s) and still a great favourite, with that fantastic sax solo from Herby. It really swings, is tuneful, it rocks and you can dance to it; not like the modern crap of hip-hop from the modern Afro-negroes. Nicoultre.

  • could you give me the names of the other musicians in the band...I know Dave Bartholomew, I am not sure of the other ones, mostly the horn section. I think I know some of them as well. but not too sure..thanks if any one can help

  • Marvelous, I wonder who the great drummer is, possibly: Cornelius "Tenoo" Coleman? Thanks

  • buen solo de sax y muy buena oldies ....................oldies forever esos

  • who was that sort sax player over the right shoulder of herb--the sort guy really getting into it

  • Fats was the most successful recording act of the 1950s bar none. He toured constantly for much of the 50s and 60s and to be truthful probably could afford to pay his key sidemen like Herb Hardesty more than Basie could.

  • Should have been "Grady Gaines IS on the piano top".

  • Grady Gaines in on the piano top. Lee Allen's solo is in the background on the original recording. Grady played the roof raising solo on Keep a Knockin'. He was a very powerful tenor in his day and led the Upsetters for several years.

  • Pretty sure Lee Allen is not present in this video.....I think it's Eddie Silvers. Lee Allen was about 6'4" I believe----nobody tall enough here!

  • I agree, Lee is not on this movie.

  • Thanks tojaks and gullhjertet. I don't remember how I came up with that. I'll see if I can edit my post. So I guess that's Lee on Little Richard's piano?

  • Do you mean the "Long Tall Sally" clip from "Don't knock the rock"? Whoever it is is certainly miming to Lee Allen's original solo. Not sure if it's the studio musicians that Richard has with him---could be his own "Upsetters"

  • tojaks, To slightly change the subject, I just noticed you have a great high quality copy of this video on your favourites. Anybody who likes this video, should check tojaks favourites or search Fats Domino Steve Allen. Fantastic quality. 1956. Too bad he didn't edit out the Allen bit.

  • I've just read a book--"Blue Monday--Fats Domino and the lost dawn of rock 'n' roll"

    Excellent book for all Domino/sax fans.

    All band line-ups etc., and all the racial shit that went on.

  • @tojaks the band with Richard in all of those movies Don't Knock The Rock, Rock Rock Rock and Mr. Rock and Roll is the Upsetters, and the sax man is Grady Gaines, although he is miming all of Lee Allen's solos on the record

  • And some of Lee Allen's great solos with Domino; IM IN LOVE AGAIN, WAIT AND SEE, VALLEY OF TEARS. And with Little Richard; LONG TALL SALLY, READY TEDDY-LITTLE RICHARD, RIP IT UP, SLIPPIN AND SLIDIN, THE GIRL CANT HELP IT, TUTTI-FRUTTI, BABY FACE, JENNY, JENNY, LONG TALL SALLY-LITTLE RICHARD, LUCILLE, MISS ANN, SEND ME SOME LOVIN and LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL-SHIRLEY AND LEE.

  • The sax-riff on Long Tall Sally is the most famous in R&R history.

  • I knew Lee very well. In the early 90th he was in Oslo with the Blasters, and after the consert Lee and me were sitting to six in the morning talking. He told me a lot about his life and about Fats, Little Richard, Dr. John, Rolling Stones etc. I wished I had a taperecorder that night ! I met him first time in Norway in ´87,first time Fats visited Norway, and I became a good friend of Mr. Domino too, who I have been visiting in N.O. seven times. .And in 1991 I visited Herb in Las Vegas.

  • Its true, Herb is a great saxplayer, but the R&R SAXMAN was LEE ALLEN !!!

  • Absolute Magic. I've played this song so often I knew it better the Fats himself :-)

  • A few more with Mr. Hardesty; AINT THAT A SHAME-FATS DOMINO, ALL BY MYSELF-FATS DOMINO, WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE-THE DIAMONDS, BLUE MONDAY-FATS DOMINO, THE ROOSTER SONG-FATS DOMINO, HIGH SIGN-THE DIAMONDS, IM GONNA BE A WHEEL SOMEDAY-FATS DOMINO, DONT COME KNOCKIN-FATS DOMINO, AINT THAT JUST LIKE A WOMAN-FATS DOMINO, LET THE FOUR WINDS BLOW-FATS DOMINO, SHU RAH-FATS DOMINO, WHAT A PARTY-FATS DOMINO.

  • Actually, Herb did play with Basie for a while. And, yes, he plays on Fats' When the Saints Go Marching in.

  • Great to see Dave BARTHOLOMEW in this clip!!

  • customkey, that's great!

    Lost in the 50s,

    Willy

  • I'm a saxophone player, and my band worked opposite of Herb at the Ascona Jazz Festival in Switzerland back in '05. I got to meet and hang out with Herb all week. Man, what a beautiful human being! A master musician, I got a lesson listening to him pace and build his solos. Herb Hardeaty is the real deal.

  • Ha...that makes sense. You made my day (or night here in Sweden. Thanx a lot!

  • Being a "wheel" means that he is going to an important person, or more appropriately a "big shot" some day.

    Hoe that is not confusing the issue.

  • Truly powerful stuff. One question: My english aint bad but I don't get this (been a mystery since I was in my teens),I,m gonna be a wheel someday. What does it mean? Thanx/Roland

  • Hi Roland It's a slang term probably originating from souped up cars or 'hotrods'. I guess it's similar to 'mover and shaker' or 'wheeler dealer', or 'high roller', means like a 'hotshot' or a 'somebody' or 'player' or 'happening' or some form of hip and successful. There's probably a better expression I can't think of at the moment.

  • What a video! Does anybody know if Hardesty plays on Fats' "When the saints go marching in" too?

  • Hi Joe. I'm almost sure that's him on the 56 version if that's the one you mean.

  • I don't know if you already have received

    an answer to your questionbut in case you haven't the answer is yes!

    It was recorded during an afternoon session at Master Recorders in Hollywood on NOV 4 1958 Plas Johnson

    was the other sax player on baritone sax.

  • Oh yes.I got the name wrong.The Fats Domino sax player was awesome.Those are the greatest sax licks I ever heard.Herb Hardesty,I won't forget.

  • Fats rules.Finally get to see this great sax player Herschel Evans.The whole key to the Fat's sound.What a sax .Awesome.

  • Sorry 74, I guess you misunderstood my description. That's not Herschel on sax, he died in 39. That's the great Herb Hardesty. I just meant he's playing more in Herschel's jazz style rather than the r'n'b Herb usually uses on Fats' records. I agree it's awesome sax playing, the best on YouTube?. You can get a glimpse of Herschel on the YouTube '1938 Randall's Island' or hear him with 37-38 Count Basie or Harry James. Herschel was the greatest.

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