Here is how id save 4449 i would jump into the cab pull out at 12-gauge shotgun and shoot those guys i would put the regulator in notch 0 and pull a brake handle to save the engine & i would dump the fire so those guys could get arrested while trying to start her up again.
@1shaneyeo - Would you believe #844 (numbered 8444 at the time) was considered to play the part at one point? :P I found this out from a "Railfan and Railroad" article about the film shoot...
Lets park all of our cars on the tracks, then stand in front of an oncoming locomotive! that sounds like a good idea! Also, i wonder how they filmed the shots of the 4449 derailing smashing through shit, and half buried?
@UP5140SD70M No, they really did someof that stunt..there are pictures of the WHOLE engine rammed into the dirt..i don't know if it really hit all the stuff though but im sure it was rammed into the dirt.
@mcr0928 I was reading on Wikipedia that they actually built a live scale replica of the 4449 for the stunt and had it pushed by a switcher engine. If you notice, the real 4449 as it approaches the end of the line is puffing out real gray oil smoke, wheras the decoy 4449 as it derails is puffing out clean white steam, because it is water vapor.
Tough guys, good movie, Kirk Douglas and Bert Lancaster in thier last movie together, thier joint movies spanned over 40 years. If that was not a real train they used for the last scene it was the best special effect I have ever seen. Poor train. Trying to stop a 100 ton locomotive with bullets!!! Might have well used spitballs for all the good that would do.
@Hennfam719 That's the real thing simulated by either mockups or models. @TheVictoryChurch197 How do you know? The locomotive was used in this movie before it started excursion service.
Shooting Bullets at the boiler of a steam Locomotive, yeah, the Boiler may not explode even if we make holes in the boiler....still a great movie, and a realistic crash scene
I shot video footage of the SP Daylight 4449 steam engine at 11 different locations across the state of Michigan in July of 2009 when it traveled the country from Portland, Oregon to Michigan for railfest in Owosso, Michigan.
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Just because you have penis envy doesn't mean you have to give other people a hard time. Just because you can't have a hard time doesn't mean you have to give others a hard time. I found CS11's comment informative, I went to his channel and he has LOTS of great videos.
I have some great old photos of this train when it was SP 4449 American Freedom Train. My dad was the engineer through Georgia, and my family found some old photos, but for some reason I can't post a link. If anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong, I will try again.
Hmmm.. Hate to burst your bubble but as you've already found out, it's not available here in North America. Only in PAL format in australia. Kinda dumb ain't it?
They just don't make movies like this no more...
Besides, I don'T think any actor today could hold a candle to actors like them.
LMAO i loved how when the train crashed through the buffers and it left a huge trench in the ground and kept on going, its like it was saying "damn the tracks, i'm gonna make my own!" LOL
She just left Durand this afternoon and is due in the Chicago area at 8PM tonight (CT). Note that her cars will be arriving at Union Station, but the engine is too large to go downtown Chicago!
Watch for her in the coming days through Wisconsin and along the Amtrak Empire Builder route as she moves back home after the Train Festival in Owosso, Michigan.
Are the tracks still in place on the Eagle Mt? It looks like they are on google maps, but ...
I remember chasing one of the last Kaiser trains out of ferrum back in early '86, with 2 red Kaiser GE units pulling about 30 ore cars. I think they were just getting the last of the iron pellets out of Eagle Mt. That was before they filmed this movie.
Wasnt LA thinking of making the open pit at Eagle Mt a giant waste dump at some point?
You are correct, the entire railroad is still there, well the track is still there anyway. I heard something a while back about the current owner possibly deciding to completely rehabilitate the track and reopen the railroad as a tourist line.
Man, it's amazing what passed for a soundtrack even in a fairly big-budget film back in the 1980s. Hay guyz I got my Casio keyboard right here, I'll score your movie.
And it's about half an hour's drive from my house, too. My dad and I actually found the damn thing many years ago in its roundhouse by accident. We were just trying to get a good spot to watch trains in the yard, and there's this bloody great streamliner poking out. It was amazing. I was just a little kid at the time, so I didn't appreciate how special it all was. We even got to talk to Doyle.
i saw this movie last night, and on the TV you can see that the crash was done with a scale model some bits were done with the locomotive like with the water tower explosion but 4449 ploughing the ground is a scale model
in talking with an engineer I work with he was on the SP when this movie was filmed in 1986 and they used the Eagle Mountain Railroad (Ferrrum) to film parts of this movie.
Does the 4449's tender really have a bar that let's you uncouple it from up there? And everything would have stopped in real life once they uncoupled because they shot the air in the train.
they didn't realy shoot at it. there used blanks and they put tiny things all over the 4449 that they could detinate to make it look like it was being shot.
How did they get the 4449 back on the track after they finished the movie?
SuperMario6419 1 week ago
@SuperMario6419 A mock-up of the engine was used for the crash scene.
OboeShoes 1 week ago
SON OF A BITCH!!!!! THEY MADE IT!!!!!!
g187 1 month ago
If Doyle McCormack was in this movie, he'd kill those tough guys and stuff thier dead bodys in 4449's firebox!
Vorahk3985 1 month ago
@Vorahk3985 He is! At the begining when they first get on the train he plays the engineer!:)
4toac 1 month ago
@4toac HOLY CRAP!!!!!
Vorahk3985 1 month ago
It looks like the DayLightJr train
Comet5551 1 month ago
awsome movie
1xsooliner 2 months ago
that was gay
jayfine01 3 months ago
Here is how id save 4449 i would jump into the cab pull out at 12-gauge shotgun and shoot those guys i would put the regulator in notch 0 and pull a brake handle to save the engine & i would dump the fire so those guys could get arrested while trying to start her up again.
mark10788 3 months ago
Today is the 25th anniversary of Tough Guys being released to theaters in the United States.
611Anime 3 months ago
also, did they make sure the angle cock was closed? it would have gone into emergency lol
alexander1485 4 months ago
shame it wasn't the big boy they stole....
alexander1485 4 months ago
I love the train
awwshuckyducky 4 months ago
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SuperMario6419 5 months ago
I hate to tell all u 80's movies, but stuff just doesn't explode like that...
trainguy3 5 months ago
lol Daylight's a STAR! LOL
TrackMaster555 6 months ago
Mexiacns on the other side of the Boarder: TU GRINGOS ES MUY ESTUPIDO!
TheMiniMan110 6 months ago
pause at 1:53.
trainmandan05 6 months ago
4:20 then 4:27 look at the smoke
natochizmar530 7 months ago
Holy shit there not stopping! Well, duh
Applachia0928 7 months ago
What's the music during the chase?
jmtoobin 7 months ago
4449 sounds like a dinosaur 3:51...lol
wannabeangel83 7 months ago
After seeing this I must say the 4449 can go through anything! :-)
brickman067 8 months ago
Wth why must they use sp4449 to film this show? Can't they use some other ugly trains?
1shaneyeo 8 months ago
@1shaneyeo - Would you believe #844 (numbered 8444 at the time) was considered to play the part at one point? :P I found this out from a "Railfan and Railroad" article about the film shoot...
trainmaster844 4 months ago
3:29, "looks like we got a welcoming commitee, lets get ready to greet them, Hang on"
pennyf9 8 months ago
dude that cant be the real 4449 engine its just a model (i think)
Shrimperdude 8 months ago
@Shrimperdude I beleieve the crash might of been a model. The running seens looked to be real
trainmasta227 8 months ago
Lets park all of our cars on the tracks, then stand in front of an oncoming locomotive! that sounds like a good idea! Also, i wonder how they filmed the shots of the 4449 derailing smashing through shit, and half buried?
salemcripple 10 months ago
@salemcripple well go to 4449s website and they have an entire photo gallery about this movie
TheFreedomtrain4449 10 months ago
@salemcripple well go to 4449s website and they have an entire photo gallery about this movie
TheFreedomtrain4449 10 months ago
What movie is this? Lol.
itm426 10 months ago
it shod be railnapped
usafisasome 11 months ago
PANCAKE MIX
handed2you04 11 months ago
is that the real name of that movie???
MsRudekid 11 months ago
@MsRudekid tough guys
usafisasome 11 months ago
HOLY FUCK THIS IS FUCKIN EPIC I SHAT 4449 SHIT BRICKS
bluefirexd12 1 year ago
Why in the hell would you tell the guy to get in the tower??? Umm.. ok.
vomheinolf 1 year ago
start firing (30 sec later) mother fucker why wont you die
handed2you04 1 year ago
start firing (30 sec later) mother fuck why wont you die
handed2you04 1 year ago
at 4:15, shooting the locomotive with a pistol won't do anything. "Holy shit there not stopping" no duhh! idiots!
pennyf9 1 year ago 2
Try Asian women **busizz4me.info**
toshiarubyv 1 year ago
Is The 4449 still running
cause i think it is really really bad if they arent that loco is my fav
homersimpson007bjorn 1 year ago
@homersimpson007bjorn yep, running fine just watched a video on it before this one
trainguy3 1 year ago
@homersimpson007bjorn Yes, it's still running today!
SuperMario6419 9 months ago
Is The 4449 still running
homersimpson007bjorn 1 year ago
Before I get old I want to ride on good ol' 4449
SUBWAY125 1 year ago
Everybody The 4449 still runs today this video is made up
mark10788 6 months ago
LOL 'kidnapped'
rockingrobot 1 year ago
they ran the real thing for everything except for the crash scene, i think
ooGAMINGoo 1 year ago
i wonder if this could ever really happen
trainzchronicles 1 year ago
i wonder if this could ever really happen
trainzchronicles 1 year ago
Its not the Real SP 4449 Its a Model edited into the video i think
UP5140SD70M 1 year ago
@UP5140SD70M No, they really did someof that stunt..there are pictures of the WHOLE engine rammed into the dirt..i don't know if it really hit all the stuff though but im sure it was rammed into the dirt.
mcr0928 1 year ago
@mcr0928 ok,
UP5140SD70M 1 year ago
@mcr0928 I was reading on Wikipedia that they actually built a live scale replica of the 4449 for the stunt and had it pushed by a switcher engine. If you notice, the real 4449 as it approaches the end of the line is puffing out real gray oil smoke, wheras the decoy 4449 as it derails is puffing out clean white steam, because it is water vapor.
cool45010 1 year ago
@cool45010 Really wow - i wonder how much building a scale replica would have cost? I JUST NOW noticed the "smoke difference".
mcr0928 1 year ago
They didn't run the real thing right
focaatdisney 1 year ago
The locomotive steals the show - for the rest, some pretty lame acting there.
limosalimosa 1 year ago
She was kidnapped, gangraped, and left in a basement to rot.
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
why was the train called the Gold cost flier in the movie?
Stuingtion 1 year ago
NO!!! NOT THE 4449!!!!!!!
celica825 1 year ago
the guys are stupid idiots and bootheads
Stuingtion 1 year ago
Tough guys, good movie, Kirk Douglas and Bert Lancaster in thier last movie together, thier joint movies spanned over 40 years. If that was not a real train they used for the last scene it was the best special effect I have ever seen. Poor train. Trying to stop a 100 ton locomotive with bullets!!! Might have well used spitballs for all the good that would do.
dv713 1 year ago
@dv713 it weighs a shit load more than 100 tons....
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
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KLDstudios 1 year ago
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KLDstudios 1 year ago
@crshtst1 Proud Rosarian Just like ME!
therubicon 1 year ago
Did Spartacus Just Moon the Sheriff Rambo tangoed with??? aka Kirk Douglass et Brian Denehey, I don't live in movies, I just love them
therubicon 1 year ago
That's obviously a duplicate 4449...
ExcaliburLink 1 year ago
@Hennfam719 That's the real thing simulated by either mockups or models. @TheVictoryChurch197 How do you know? The locomotive was used in this movie before it started excursion service.
BNSFandSP 1 year ago
That Is Not The Real SP 4449.
TheVictoryChurch1977 1 year ago
what movie was this from?
train2589 1 year ago
how did they do the crash? models?
cheesemunster12 1 year ago
@cheesemunster12 - Yes, that was a scale model used in the crash scene...
trainmaster844 1 year ago
@cheesemunster12 Did a model.
mark10788 6 months ago
That better have been a scale model crashing and not the real thing because that would have cost a $#%& load of money to repair
Hennfam719 1 year ago
What???!?!?!?!?! I thought Nothing could stop the Awesomeness of Southern Pacific Daylight 4449!
coolcatevan9 1 year ago
Whats the name of this movie????????
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
@pianomanmaestro
the movie is called
"Tough Guys"
chmarr 1 year ago
if I were in the movie I'd hit those guys cold-out and put on the brakes
Stuingtion 1 year ago
She's the star of this video. Seeing her run into all that dirt, though makes me cringe. Pretty convincing.
doronlassil 1 year ago
4449 can i have your autograph (runs over paper)
thanks
UtahJazz1Fan 1 year ago 51
@UtahJazz1Fan just put some oil on the whells and do some wheelslips
TylerTrainz4449 1 year ago
@UtahJazz1Fan no
Big1unionpacific 6 months ago
wait, the BNSF ES 4449 or the SP 4449? lol i dont know which ur talking about
MrCSXboy98 1 year ago
@MrCSXboy98 SP 4449
Stuingtion 1 year ago
One of the best movies ever made.
SychoBilly73 1 year ago 2
Is it?
jamessmedley82 1 year ago
4449 is a celebrity
The3751FAN 1 year ago
omg!! i didn't know that the sp 4449 was a movie star!!! 5/5* and favorited!
hellya2011 1 year ago
What did they use for the gun and wreck scenes? Models?
trainlover479 2 years ago
T_T why would they freaking do that to a Awesome Steam train waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
SaberTanker22 2 years ago 4
N/S i just got a ride on it last month
poofballbeanie 2 years ago
Just good to know that no one is that stupid to shoot at and wreck a piece of history. thank you for the reassurance.
Railroadingfarmer001 2 years ago
Shooting Bullets at the boiler of a steam Locomotive, yeah, the Boiler may not explode even if we make holes in the boiler....still a great movie, and a realistic crash scene
K4driver2 2 years ago
The filmakers weren't actualy stupid enough to wreck a million plus dollar piece of irreplaceable historical railroad equipment, were they?
Railroadingfarmer001 2 years ago
No...they built a full-size replica and buried it in the sand.
deloreanman14 2 years ago
@Railroadingfarmer001 no they weren't that's the only one left in working existence
DegenerationX07 2 years ago
mock up of the locomotive
TheJuggalohomie4life 2 years ago
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Mikal2475 2 years ago
This wasn't the actually SP 4449 was it?
nels1jac 2 years ago
no it is a mock up
TheJuggalohomie4life 2 years ago
I walked right up to that engine today, got some good video of it too.
NathansBackwoods 2 years ago
SON OF BITCH, THEY MADE IT!!!!
fasionbug 2 years ago
Awesome.
SCL3618 2 years ago
There goes #4449 into the dirt.
TheADude213 2 years ago
I remember when it passed my high school going south for the filming of Tough guys
anvil357 2 years ago 2
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looks like 2 wheels in the front.... making it a 2-8-4.... unless one wheel set isn't seen lol. If it's only one set, soooo inaccurate replica
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
en audio latino por favor
elhijodelgallo 2 years ago
now thats what i call action two guys and a train glad S.P #4449 is ok
UNIONPACIFIC1 2 years ago
I shot video footage of the SP Daylight 4449 steam engine at 11 different locations across the state of Michigan in July of 2009 when it traveled the country from Portland, Oregon to Michigan for railfest in Owosso, Michigan.
CoastStarlight11 2 years ago 2
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Brag much, pal?
fasionbug 2 years ago
I am telling not bragging, DUH!!!
My friends got shots of the thing more than me.
CoastStarlight11 2 years ago
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Just because you have penis envy doesn't mean you have to give other people a hard time. Just because you can't have a hard time doesn't mean you have to give others a hard time. I found CS11's comment informative, I went to his channel and he has LOTS of great videos.
drivebydickhead 2 years ago
I have some great old photos of this train when it was SP 4449 American Freedom Train. My dad was the engineer through Georgia, and my family found some old photos, but for some reason I can't post a link. If anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong, I will try again.
poundsand 2 years ago
Time for a trip to HMV. I have to get this DVD.
radeakins 2 years ago
Hmmm.. Hate to burst your bubble but as you've already found out, it's not available here in North America. Only in PAL format in australia. Kinda dumb ain't it?
They just don't make movies like this no more...
Besides, I don'T think any actor today could hold a candle to actors like them.
QuiltedPine 2 years ago
WTF won't it post my reply at the proper place?
QuiltedPine 2 years ago
the posting has worked fine.
And as for getting the DVD....Damn!
radeakins 2 years ago
LMAO i loved how when the train crashed through the buffers and it left a huge trench in the ground and kept on going, its like it was saying "damn the tracks, i'm gonna make my own!" LOL
12yearoldNFSMWDK 2 years ago
She just left Durand this afternoon and is due in the Chicago area at 8PM tonight (CT). Note that her cars will be arriving at Union Station, but the engine is too large to go downtown Chicago!
Watch for her in the coming days through Wisconsin and along the Amtrak Empire Builder route as she moves back home after the Train Festival in Owosso, Michigan.
She is due to arrive back home in October.
payphonetech 2 years ago
don't you dare call 4449 a "Goddamned Train". She is a steamer. Anything non steam or Alco diesels, however, wreck as you wish.
joeferrito 2 years ago 4
Can't wait to see her in Michigan in a few days! Beautiful piece of steam power.
arrowguy173 2 years ago
lucky! I was gonna go but we're going to Boston. Have fun.
joeferrito 2 years ago
Are the tracks still in place on the Eagle Mt? It looks like they are on google maps, but ...
I remember chasing one of the last Kaiser trains out of ferrum back in early '86, with 2 red Kaiser GE units pulling about 30 ore cars. I think they were just getting the last of the iron pellets out of Eagle Mt. That was before they filmed this movie.
Wasnt LA thinking of making the open pit at Eagle Mt a giant waste dump at some point?
zr1rob 2 years ago
You are correct, the entire railroad is still there, well the track is still there anyway. I heard something a while back about the current owner possibly deciding to completely rehabilitate the track and reopen the railroad as a tourist line.
theUP844 2 years ago
Man, it's amazing what passed for a soundtrack even in a fairly big-budget film back in the 1980s. Hay guyz I got my Casio keyboard right here, I'll score your movie.
blaarp 2 years ago 3
how do they uncouple the train with out the emergency brakes coming on
I can't believe they crashed a heritage engine
ShaurntheSheep 2 years ago
They fooled you...can't you see this is a model!!!
This engine was never hamed in the making of this movie.
It still is a round running excursions and pleasing many a railfan.
trainguy01 2 years ago
And it's about half an hour's drive from my house, too. My dad and I actually found the damn thing many years ago in its roundhouse by accident. We were just trying to get a good spot to watch trains in the yard, and there's this bloody great streamliner poking out. It was amazing. I was just a little kid at the time, so I didn't appreciate how special it all was. We even got to talk to Doyle.
JETZcorp 2 years ago
oh i see it you have to watch it again and look very closely
maryandrobby 2 years ago
also look at the smoke it is a thick black then goes to a thin white smoke just like a toy train makes
maryandrobby 2 years ago
and it's too small.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
Extremely accurate whistle and color, but she's too short XD
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
what's that song at the end?
amtraklover 2 years ago
Tuff Enuff by The Fabulous Thunderbirds
smvrr80 2 years ago
thanks
amtraklover 2 years ago
That was cool. Of course theyd never use the actual steamer.
Kleman09 2 years ago
Lets not wreak because we can't go to train festival 2009.
bnsf261 2 years ago
Was that the end of the movie?
KillerDirector10 2 years ago
Yeah
amtrakf40 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago 3
please?
WilbertVereAwdry 2 years ago
"Tough Guys" was a really cool movie. I remember when it came out!!
narutofightindreamer 3 years ago 2
"Holy shit, they're not stopping!"
no kidding...
WilbertVereAwdry 3 years ago 2
t4449 cant take crap like that
ilIKeTRAinS4449 3 years ago 3
DAYLIGHT FOR THE WIN! THat was so fucking hilarious!!! The daylight doesn't take no bullshit from buffers OR cops!!!! XDXD!! FAVED! :D
WilbertVereAwdry 3 years ago
i saw this movie last night, and on the TV you can see that the crash was done with a scale model some bits were done with the locomotive like with the water tower explosion but 4449 ploughing the ground is a scale model
trainlover657 3 years ago
i love that part at the end were he kicks that guy in the nuts
MasterOfTrains 3 years ago
in talking with an engineer I work with he was on the SP when this movie was filmed in 1986 and they used the Eagle Mountain Railroad (Ferrrum) to film parts of this movie.
sr92243 3 years ago
what movie was this and poor 4449 i hope they used a fake 4449 on the stunt
unionpacific4008 3 years ago 4
Yeah they did use a scale model for the derailment scenes.
deathstarmygnr 3 years ago
thank goodness
unionpacific4008 3 years ago
they used a 1in. scale model for the crash and a mock-up for the post-crash scenes.. 4449 was entirely unharmed...
trainmaster844 2 years ago 3
4449>>>>>>Mexico border.
OboeShoes 3 years ago
Forgot Dana Carvey was in this! Great footage & glad to see this loco still running. Wish I could see it in person.
tk0173 3 years ago
1:44 Epic Fail!
Patrickisreallygreat 3 years ago
Does the 4449's tender really have a bar that let's you uncouple it from up there? And everything would have stopped in real life once they uncoupled because they shot the air in the train.
NSguy07 3 years ago
the cars would've stopped but the engine would keep going
amtraklover 3 years ago
NO. if the air shoots on a train, the whole train dumps and the engineer has to put the automatic train brake handle in the emergency position.
NSguy07 3 years ago
oh I was thinking about something else concerning that. and yes 4449 does have that bar at the top.
amtraklover 3 years ago
I belivev that technoligy wasn't installed on steam locomotives..
Espeelover 3 years ago
WTF!? Holy shit, dude you can't crash ol' 4449, or any train for that matter!!!
Surflliner458 3 years ago
You can use those ugly modern Diesles.
Kleman09 2 years ago
haha
Surflliner458 2 years ago
sure as hell. long live steam
joeferrito 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
That scene of it getting wrecked made my heart jump anyway. haha.
DaftStrings 3 years ago
SP 4449- The Only 4-8-4 to Invade Mexico.
wyomingrailfan 3 years ago 6
Probably the only American Steam Locomtive AT ALL to invade mexico
LNERMallard 3 years ago 4
eh, KCS did that...
wyomingrailfan 3 years ago 3
Did he really pull down his pants?
kevindatrainmasta 3 years ago
HAHA! The guy got pushed off the train into a river!
kevindatrainmasta 3 years ago 3
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WhyAyeMann 3 years ago 2
This is such a cool movie, and they did a great job on making the wooden mdel for the cras scene.
SPRRguy99 3 years ago 2
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DanielVolker 3 years ago 2
they didn't realy shoot at it. there used blanks and they put tiny things all over the 4449 that they could detinate to make it look like it was being shot.
Espeelover 3 years ago 5
Even so, the entire scene had me on the edge just 'cause I love the loco.
LoneSniperSG 3 years ago 3
no way they used the 4449 on that wreck
CabooseColin 3 years ago 3
i guess one of the rules is don't be an idiot in front of criminals or you'd better start wearing a cup.
traindude456 3 years ago 2