I thought turbo'ed engines didn't loose power at altitude, because the backpressure on the exhaust drops, allowing the turbo to spin faster? A supercharged or NA engine will loose power, but I thought that didn't apply to turbos.
@ericmies824 Turbos make their own backpressure. There is absolutely no advantage to backpressure (after turbos) on any kind of engine. The only thing that people get confused about is that an engine benefits from headers because it sets up scavenging resonance that helps to draw exhaust out and air in...same thing that intake runners do, only one the other side of the cycle. If you find an authorative subject that says that backpressure helps turbos, I'll buy it. Otherwise, that's just myth.
@ericmies824 Well, I've found that most "common rules of thumb" are absolute BS. Second, 7" of pipe won't make any backpressure. If anything, it's to help scavenge the stuff from the turbo. I can think of some OTHER good reasons to put at least 7" of pipe off of a turbo running at 1,000deg F, but not for backpressure. Like how they say the fewer restrictions the better, yet no one just leaves open exhaust ports...a little pipe helps scavenge the cylinders. It probably works for the turbo too.
@rotomanr1 You'd prefer that I lie and say that I knew for sure that it did? I don't, but I do know that I've learned that there is absolutely no benefit to "backpressure". It's an old myth. There are things that people ASSUME are for backpressure, but the actual benefits are not from resistance to the exhaust flowing from the engine. I can fish out the specific article I read it in, in Hot Rod magazine or wherever I read it, if you really want me too. I trust them more than random dudes online.
Thats because its heavily modified for hill racing. It somewhat resembles the front on the more standard Tacoma, but the race version gotta be low so it wont roll over during high speed in the curves.
@Krissdafish It ain't modified....it's a whole different animal, with "Tacoma" body cladding. It's "modified" like a NASCAR "Monte Carlo" is a "modified" Chevy Monte Carlo. It just has the same name and a slight resemblance, but this "Tacoma" and the "Celica" before it are one-off, high-dollar, space frame pure race machines.
@NeeKroVal please explain then what i meant by over spool was it dumps excess exhaust as to not over boost the engine past its limits by opening a valve that is either on the exhast side of the turbo or on the mani its self and can dump into the exhaust or atmosphere your choosing haha but what do i know ive turboed three cars and own a skyline myself just saying
@HEREcomesTHEpainnn Is that supposed to be a joke? An engine is only capable of taking a certain amount of boost, so it needs to have a means of controlling the boost level, like a thermometer. You design an engine to run at, say, 15psi, it needs a way to bleed the extra, or it'll overboost. So either you size it to make 15psi at 6,000rpm and get underboosted at anything under (and no power), or you size it to make a full 15psi at 3,000rpm and bleed off the extra as RPM rises.
They are completely different cars. The Celica silhouette bodied car was front engined with the drivers seat on the left of the car. The Tacoma bodied silhouette is mid engined with the driver in the middle. I know because i have been very close to both cars at Goodwood and seen both with the body panels removed.
Like he said, about 1000 at the start and half that at the top. I was there that year and it was too bad that he DNF due to a turbo failure I think is what it was, he was hauling ass and maybe could have broke the 10 minute barrier. Who knows now that it is paved, I know it sucks though.
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jman945x 2 months ago
i wonder what it would look like in production
yutubeguest44444 3 months ago
The best sounding engine in the world...l
ambientdweller 6 months ago
Love the car, great review!
formulaonehotwheel 11 months ago
@formulaonehotwheel its a truck....or at least it was modelled after one
jo34j 6 months ago
I thought turbo'ed engines didn't loose power at altitude, because the backpressure on the exhaust drops, allowing the turbo to spin faster? A supercharged or NA engine will loose power, but I thought that didn't apply to turbos.
justforever96 1 year ago
@justforever96 it still drops due to theres not as much oxygen in general and contrary to popular belief turbos do need some back pressure
ericmies824 5 months ago
@ericmies824 Turbos make their own backpressure. There is absolutely no advantage to backpressure (after turbos) on any kind of engine. The only thing that people get confused about is that an engine benefits from headers because it sets up scavenging resonance that helps to draw exhaust out and air in...same thing that intake runners do, only one the other side of the cycle. If you find an authorative subject that says that backpressure helps turbos, I'll buy it. Otherwise, that's just myth.
justforever96 5 months ago
@justforever96 is this why there is a common rule of thumb that you need at least 7 inches of exhaust for some back pressure for the turbo?
ericmies824 5 months ago
@ericmies824 Well, I've found that most "common rules of thumb" are absolute BS. Second, 7" of pipe won't make any backpressure. If anything, it's to help scavenge the stuff from the turbo. I can think of some OTHER good reasons to put at least 7" of pipe off of a turbo running at 1,000deg F, but not for backpressure. Like how they say the fewer restrictions the better, yet no one just leaves open exhaust ports...a little pipe helps scavenge the cylinders. It probably works for the turbo too.
justforever96 5 months ago
@justforever96 "Probably", now thats hard hitting facts talking.
rotomanr1 5 months ago
@rotomanr1 You'd prefer that I lie and say that I knew for sure that it did? I don't, but I do know that I've learned that there is absolutely no benefit to "backpressure". It's an old myth. There are things that people ASSUME are for backpressure, but the actual benefits are not from resistance to the exhaust flowing from the engine. I can fish out the specific article I read it in, in Hot Rod magazine or wherever I read it, if you really want me too. I trust them more than random dudes online.
justforever96 5 months ago
low center of gravity FTW
JoaoMario24 1 year ago
i have an hotwheels version of this, pretty neat lol! except its slammed lol
xXShadowRejectsXx 1 year ago
Haha... So do I. And I have the Celica.
narlycharley 1 year ago
@xXShadowRejectsXx So do I, and it has a nice paint scheme on it!
formulaonehotwheel 11 months ago
that aint the pikes peak tacoma i know
kingrex1002 1 year ago
what blow is that....i want
FARQPIG 1 year ago
I believe this corner is Ski area!
dirtracerrob 2 years ago
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gearitup4 2 years ago
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lol thats a tacoma? looks nothing like it!
driftingfreek 2 years ago
Thats because its heavily modified for hill racing. It somewhat resembles the front on the more standard Tacoma, but the race version gotta be low so it wont roll over during high speed in the curves.
Krissdafish 2 years ago
this car has no tacoma parts on it. like a nascar the only thing in this car that is tacoma is the stickers
super2ner 2 years ago 15
@super2ner and the body u can tell it was a tacoma
Ctsmith18 7 months ago
@Krissdafish It ain't modified....it's a whole different animal, with "Tacoma" body cladding. It's "modified" like a NASCAR "Monte Carlo" is a "modified" Chevy Monte Carlo. It just has the same name and a slight resemblance, but this "Tacoma" and the "Celica" before it are one-off, high-dollar, space frame pure race machines.
justforever96 5 months ago
alsome Truck
djnoman88 2 years ago
Now that Toyota can fly! Listen to that thing, too! This is a wicked machine.
JohnMarineTube 2 years ago 2
holy shit
whiteynator 2 years ago
cunt
FenderUsa 3 years ago
wow I'm a total fascist myself but that's a fucking awesome machine
strykerfan 3 years ago
hehe 0
Abdullehirsi 3 years ago
is it me or does it sound like turbo is surging?
TechSalvager 3 years ago
external wastegate
3star2nr 2 years ago
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TechSalvager 2 years ago
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I meant to say its sounds like compressor surge at the start
TechSalvager 2 years ago
his celica is also 1000hp
pimpringpunch 3 years ago
his prob not running a wastegate so it can be on boost nearly all the time.
SteveFuckinO 3 years ago
there is a wastegate, most likely an external one, not using one would be bad, probably end up blowing the motor real quick.
TechSalvager 2 years ago 2
Do you even understand what a wastegate does?
EpicGamer2 2 years ago 13
@EpicGamer2 dumps excess boost into your valve stems?
NeeKroVal 5 months ago
@NeeKroVal negative it opens a valve to dump excess exhaust as to not over spool the turbo or give more than optimal boost
ericmies824 5 months ago
@ericmies824 somebody didn't have their cheerios this morning
NeeKroVal 5 months ago
@NeeKroVal please explain then what i meant by over spool was it dumps excess exhaust as to not over boost the engine past its limits by opening a valve that is either on the exhast side of the turbo or on the mani its self and can dump into the exhaust or atmosphere your choosing haha but what do i know ive turboed three cars and own a skyline myself just saying
ericmies824 5 months ago
if he didnt have a waste gate he would blow the motor ounce he gets the boost up for a couple seconds
verydangerousretard 2 years ago
@SteveFuckinO oh, i didnt know that having a wastegate stopped your engine boosting,seems silly that all turbo charged engines have them then ay?
HEREcomesTHEpainnn 7 months ago
@HEREcomesTHEpainnn Is that supposed to be a joke? An engine is only capable of taking a certain amount of boost, so it needs to have a means of controlling the boost level, like a thermometer. You design an engine to run at, say, 15psi, it needs a way to bleed the extra, or it'll overboost. So either you size it to make 15psi at 6,000rpm and get underboosted at anything under (and no power), or you size it to make a full 15psi at 3,000rpm and bleed off the extra as RPM rises.
justforever96 5 months ago
1000hp
pimpringpunch 3 years ago
nice
pazzoStunt 3 years ago
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most6wanted 3 years ago
That thing is a Tacoma?
Ziltoid667 4 years ago
yeah, the body is a tacoma, physically, its the exact same car from the year before (celica). They just switched the body
MiamiIbis08 3 years ago
It was slightly longer too if memory serves correct
tokyosmash 2 years ago
They are completely different cars. The Celica silhouette bodied car was front engined with the drivers seat on the left of the car. The Tacoma bodied silhouette is mid engined with the driver in the middle. I know because i have been very close to both cars at Goodwood and seen both with the body panels removed.
breaderb16lag 2 years ago 4
Yep it was about 900, maybe even 1000bhp at the startline - due to the extreme altitude change the power is almost halved by the finish line.
KeeperOfTheKitten 4 years ago
how much hp was it , i think 900
leadfeet123 4 years ago
Like he said, about 1000 at the start and half that at the top. I was there that year and it was too bad that he DNF due to a turbo failure I think is what it was, he was hauling ass and maybe could have broke the 10 minute barrier. Who knows now that it is paved, I know it sucks though.
phddadoctor 3 years ago
gooooooooooood
Subaru555gr 4 years ago