I agree with this guy in the video 100%. I just went shopping for a new washer and was annoyed how all the new washers are built. I ended up buying a speed queen which is great. It still has the same design as the old top load washers. I really hope they will go back to the old school washing style.
@Sharkie626 Cool deal, I might go with the newer Speed Queen models too, yeah those are pretty good, yeah I will go with those machines, too, and the DDs.
I have a direct drive washer. And one thing I really like about it that you didn't mention is how much quieter a direct drive is. Even when my washer is in the final spin cycle which is 1000 rpm's I can still hold a normal conversation right next to it. Ask any belt drive washer to be that quiet.
@tamiasthechipmunk Sound pretty cool. But, which direct drive to you have? going by that spin speed, it sounds like it is a LG? Whirlpool machines like these spin at 640 RPM ;)
@Sharkie626 I have a Fisher & Paykel Aquasmart HE Toploading washer and matching Fisher and Paykel Aerosmart Top loading dryer. I'm really happy with both units.
@Sharkie626 Well now sense you were talking to tamiasthechipmunk, if he says it's LG DD, for some reason, when I go to the stores that sells the new washing machines and dryers, including LG, you can see once again, for some reason, it says on the control panel, DD for some reason, which is pretty ridiculous. To me it is. Why didn't it just say BD? It's not a DD for real.
I don't think these new belt drive washers will last for more than 2 years. If they go back to the ones that were made up until 1986 then everybody will buy it.
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Exactly. people are always saying how the DD is a bad design in such that parts fail often. clearly they have never used them before. I guess that's why almost all parts on this machine still work after 21 years. since this video actually, I have actually replaced the drain pump. Was a very easy repair, I would love to see just how easy that would be on those new belt drives.....
I believe both BD and DD are great. My BD kenmore still washes and spins. I never had to restart the washer for more wash time, sometimes I have to change the water level and it will fill up and then agitate.
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Indeed, the original BDs are such a good build. I do have my reasons as to why I like the DD more than the original BD, however I CANNOT say it is a bad machine, the fact that yours, for example is still working today just tells you how much effort was put into building it.
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Exactly, if it were one of today's washers it would probably have about maybe 4 more parts broken and replacement costing more than the washer itself.
Dave - your comments and level of exasperation sound exactly like I sounded when I found out that the DirectDrive had replaced the Belt-Drive.
Many service guys felt the same way - we couldn't find enough reasons why the DDs were bad.
Same thing will happen eventually with the new Betl-Drive. Most people will get used to them, but there will be a loyal group of DD followers who love them.
@MustangFanNC One of the biggest changes though is the addition of all the electronics. Believe me, I certainly have considered those that you had just mentioned who weren't too thrilled about the original belt drive being replaced. I guess the reason why I never felt that to be the same is because the direct drive was still made with mechanical controls (granted, the difference in technology in the 80s) and was, (except for maybe the catalyst models) kept that way through out the entire time.
You mention the suspension - I've seen several broken machines at the Sears outlet when the new belt-drives first came out that were already broken. If someone lays the machine down on its side, it can damage beyond repair the suspension to the point where it hangs there with half the tub hanging down 6-inches from where it belongs.
I agree with your comments, but give me one of these new belt-drive top loaders before I go with a front loader!!
Never mind the rambling; the important points are there. The more electronics, the more chance of the machine breaking down. I laugh when I see people with these new washing with all the buttons and lights and automatic selections, taking away manual choice....and then one day 'BEEP' they get these error codes, and no matter how they reload the machine, no matter how the open and close the lid, the machine just keeps beeping. You think I will ever get rid of my 80's G.E. Filter Flo? NEVER!!!
@madlyderanged Exactly. Error codes do not exist with mechanical controls. Now to be fair, some electronic controls made back then seem to do okay. Dualactionsurgilator has a 1986 direct drive machine with electronic controls that he got from someone. All it needed he said was just a connection re-solder, but other than that, it has worked since.
I agree with this guy in the video 100%. I just went shopping for a new washer and was annoyed how all the new washers are built. I ended up buying a speed queen which is great. It still has the same design as the old top load washers. I really hope they will go back to the old school washing style.
Madou6760 1 month ago
@Madou6760 Yeah me too, I really like the direct drives better. Even they say the BDs are BETTER cleaning, still I really like the DDs better, too.
lizboz 1 month ago
@Madou6760 Excellent decision man, that brand today will last you a long time!
Sharkie626 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 Cool deal, I might go with the newer Speed Queen models too, yeah those are pretty good, yeah I will go with those machines, too, and the DDs.
lizboz 1 month ago
They still make direct drive washers! inglis,estate,roper,admiral and probably more still make direct drive washers, or they do in Canada.
sincladutch 1 month ago
@sincladutch From what I've seen at sears, they don't. They made the new BDs.
lizboz 1 month ago
I have a direct drive washer. And one thing I really like about it that you didn't mention is how much quieter a direct drive is. Even when my washer is in the final spin cycle which is 1000 rpm's I can still hold a normal conversation right next to it. Ask any belt drive washer to be that quiet.
tamiasthechipmunk 1 month ago
@tamiasthechipmunk Sound pretty cool. But, which direct drive to you have? going by that spin speed, it sounds like it is a LG? Whirlpool machines like these spin at 640 RPM ;)
Sharkie626 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 I have a Fisher & Paykel Aquasmart HE Toploading washer and matching Fisher and Paykel Aerosmart Top loading dryer. I'm really happy with both units.
tamiasthechipmunk 1 month ago
@tamiasthechipmunk Ahh I see, well hey, if it's working well, that's great!
Sharkie626 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 Well now sense you were talking to tamiasthechipmunk, if he says it's LG DD, for some reason, when I go to the stores that sells the new washing machines and dryers, including LG, you can see once again, for some reason, it says on the control panel, DD for some reason, which is pretty ridiculous. To me it is. Why didn't it just say BD? It's not a DD for real.
lizboz 1 month ago
@lizboz Probably just another way of advertising.
Sharkie626 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 Why would they advertising people like that?
lizboz 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 And do you upload videos every month now?
lizboz 1 month ago
@lizboz Nah, I dont have any set schedule.
Sharkie626 1 month ago
@Sharkie626 Great vid and washer though. And I love those five controlled 90 series Kenmores.
lizboz 1 month ago
I don't think these new belt drive washers will last for more than 2 years. If they go back to the ones that were made up until 1986 then everybody will buy it.
NVHSChadSheppard1 2 months ago 2
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Exactly. people are always saying how the DD is a bad design in such that parts fail often. clearly they have never used them before. I guess that's why almost all parts on this machine still work after 21 years. since this video actually, I have actually replaced the drain pump. Was a very easy repair, I would love to see just how easy that would be on those new belt drives.....
Sharkie626 2 months ago
I believe both BD and DD are great. My BD kenmore still washes and spins. I never had to restart the washer for more wash time, sometimes I have to change the water level and it will fill up and then agitate.
NVHSChadSheppard1 3 months ago 2
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Indeed, the original BDs are such a good build. I do have my reasons as to why I like the DD more than the original BD, however I CANNOT say it is a bad machine, the fact that yours, for example is still working today just tells you how much effort was put into building it.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
@Sharkie626 Like the only thing in my kenmore that got replaced was the motor.
NVHSChadSheppard1 3 months ago 2
@NVHSChadSheppard1 Exactly, if it were one of today's washers it would probably have about maybe 4 more parts broken and replacement costing more than the washer itself.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
@RobGwisdala Unfortunately, I cannot, as my neighbor did not keep that belt washer for long, but if you search, you can find a couple of vids on it.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
Dave - your comments and level of exasperation sound exactly like I sounded when I found out that the DirectDrive had replaced the Belt-Drive.
Many service guys felt the same way - we couldn't find enough reasons why the DDs were bad.
Same thing will happen eventually with the new Betl-Drive. Most people will get used to them, but there will be a loyal group of DD followers who love them.
MustangFanNC 3 months ago 2
@MustangFanNC One of the biggest changes though is the addition of all the electronics. Believe me, I certainly have considered those that you had just mentioned who weren't too thrilled about the original belt drive being replaced. I guess the reason why I never felt that to be the same is because the direct drive was still made with mechanical controls (granted, the difference in technology in the 80s) and was, (except for maybe the catalyst models) kept that way through out the entire time.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
You mention the suspension - I've seen several broken machines at the Sears outlet when the new belt-drives first came out that were already broken. If someone lays the machine down on its side, it can damage beyond repair the suspension to the point where it hangs there with half the tub hanging down 6-inches from where it belongs.
I agree with your comments, but give me one of these new belt-drive top loaders before I go with a front loader!!
MustangFanNC 3 months ago 2
@MustangFanNC Really? wow, that's just sad quality... but yes, I 100% agree with you regarding having one of those over a front loader.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
The trademark of the pre-1986 BD's....the 'woo-woo' sound!!! : D
vanni9283 3 months ago 2
@vanni9283 Indeed! It's a classic sound.
Sharkie626 3 months ago
Never mind the rambling; the important points are there. The more electronics, the more chance of the machine breaking down. I laugh when I see people with these new washing with all the buttons and lights and automatic selections, taking away manual choice....and then one day 'BEEP' they get these error codes, and no matter how they reload the machine, no matter how the open and close the lid, the machine just keeps beeping. You think I will ever get rid of my 80's G.E. Filter Flo? NEVER!!!
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@madlyderanged Exactly. Error codes do not exist with mechanical controls. Now to be fair, some electronic controls made back then seem to do okay. Dualactionsurgilator has a 1986 direct drive machine with electronic controls that he got from someone. All it needed he said was just a connection re-solder, but other than that, it has worked since.
Oh absolutely, keep that vintage GE going!
Sharkie626 3 months ago
You're thorough, you're great.
madlyderanged 3 months ago in playlist More videos from Sharkie626 2
@madlyderanged Thanks! I try to be, it's good to get out as many valid points as possible.
Sharkie626 3 months ago