really should use a better cam for this and not so close so one can see whats going on and what chems your using and what temp the iorn is and so on. I dont bother with blogs if the vid is crap!
Haha, these comments must be frustrating, you should just change the title. Does this method work well on circuits with a large ground pour, as in a mostly-black print with just a few white areas?
It is printed with a LASER PRINTER on to INKJET glossy picture paper. This is because the inkjet coating is water soluble. So the coating dissolves during the water soak (after the ironing) and the paper falls away ... just like in the video.
It is printer with a LASER PRINTER on to INKJET glossy picture paper. This is because the inkjet coating is water soluble. So the coating dissolves during the water soak (after the ironing) and the paper falls away ... just like in the video.
Wow... the toner came away from the paper as clean as a whistle! I'm in a world of pain with my toner transfer etching. More often than not I have to rub and scrub to get the backing paper off. The alternative being that the toner doesn't stick at all. When this does work for me, well sort of, I usually have to touch up the circuit with an etch resistant pen. I'm jealous!
you can use inkjet photo paper in a laser printer to do this, it doesn't have to be laser photo paper. You can't use an inkjet printer to print the pattern though because it won't transfer to the board. Only toner sticks to the board, so you must print with a laser printer. Also don't use the T-shirt transfer paper to try and do this... it won't work because it leaves a thin silm stuck to the entire board when you peel the paper off.
This tells me squat - from what I can see on the video, I can print my PCB design on a piece of paper, iron it onto the board, dunk it in solution and viola its done - lucky for me I know this isn't the case.
Huh inkjet printer? Some people told me you need to use a laser jet printer, does it matter or not? Personally I think a laserjet will give you a better result.
Oh and people, if you're using a PCB layout program, save the result, open it in Photoshop and save it with 500DPi, this will give you a better result and you want have any blocks on the lines.
The DPI setting only changes the scale factor for the rulers. If you save a file using a lossless format (ie not JPG) you can save it as 1 dpi or 30,000 dpi and the files will be byte for byte identical except for the bytes used to store "1" and "30000".
will it matter if i use regular ink or do i have to use photo ink, also when i iron the photo paper it keeps sticking to my iron im using staples photo plus (gloss)
Guys, you can't use an inkjet printer! The author specifies using only inkjet picture paper, but on a laser printer! Toner contains plastic, which melts to the substrate, in this case paper and when reheated, it melts again onto the pcb (as well as it remains stuck onto the paper).
If you want to go as cheep as you can then let someone do the etching for you. By the time you get all the materials and know-how, you will destroy a dozens of PCBs. There is a "PCB Etching Service" on ebay that makes PCBs quite cheap.
This happened to me too. What solved the problem was (alot) more ironing. Rotate the pcb 90degrees and repeat. Repeat that until it has been fully rotatet.
"i tried it but it did not work:( my paper would not stick to my board:( "
try to head your pcb board before applying the picture paper... and remember... dont try to mavo your paper to much because as soon as you put the paper on the hot board ... it will stick.
yeah thats probably why i have problems, i dont clean it before (soap and water thats all) nor do mi sand it, and im using magazine paper... i must get some picture paper!
You will get better results after cooling the clad in cold water (about 5 min). Laser printers are sweet for making the image, but most heating elements arn't so good. Note that leaving the clad in cold water for about 5 min will help in two ways, one to prepare the board for removing the paper transfer and cooling the clad to about, or below room temp.
Settle down. The reason people are on here is to watch the videos. Not to go off onto some random blog. Next time put your nice pictures in the video for us so we know what we're looking at. I wasn't trying to flame you.
@elmodman I know it is two years old but this is a very poor video. Hope you have learned how to improve your camera skills since then. Also hope you have stopped being so defensive.
what the fuck was this recorded on your calculator?
InnerMantra 9 months ago
really should use a better cam for this and not so close so one can see whats going on and what chems your using and what temp the iorn is and so on. I dont bother with blogs if the vid is crap!
IIGBII 1 year ago
Haha, these comments must be frustrating, you should just change the title. Does this method work well on circuits with a large ground pour, as in a mostly-black print with just a few white areas?
voidshirt 1 year ago
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It is printed with a LASER PRINTER on to INKJET glossy picture paper. This is because the inkjet coating is water soluble. So the coating dissolves during the water soak (after the ironing) and the paper falls away ... just like in the video.
It is real and very common if you search Google.
MrOzCDN 1 year ago
It is printer with a LASER PRINTER on to INKJET glossy picture paper. This is because the inkjet coating is water soluble. So the coating dissolves during the water soak (after the ironing) and the paper falls away ... just like in the video.
It is real and very common if you search Google.
MrOzCDN 1 year ago
THIS THING DOESN'T WORK. THE PIGMENTS OF INK CAN'T STICK ON THE COPPER BOARD.
xmanolosx 1 year ago
This is being reported and shall be removed for fraud.
happygamestvfun1 1 year ago
Je l`ai essayé et cela ne fonc tionne pas.
MonsieurTO3 1 year ago
That's a toner transfer method, an inkjet printer can't print using toner so what the hell -_-
renekenshin6573 1 year ago
Cascateiro! O papel nunca sairia tão fácil assim.
Uma montagem grosseira!
LIiutaio 1 year ago
Thats shitty quality
cybergeek004 1 year ago
Inkjet or laserjet?
LIiutaio 1 year ago
buen video hermano esa tecnica me parece la mejor para crear pcb y es muy economica
fabioguarin 1 year ago
can't see a thing
Grimlydwarf 1 year ago
fuck off
shockflyyer3d 1 year ago
this is a useless way to do pcb's the outcome is most always frustrating.
billkab 2 years ago
Wow... the toner came away from the paper as clean as a whistle! I'm in a world of pain with my toner transfer etching. More often than not I have to rub and scrub to get the backing paper off. The alternative being that the toner doesn't stick at all. When this does work for me, well sort of, I usually have to touch up the circuit with an etch resistant pen. I'm jealous!
fronkenpoop 2 years ago
you can use inkjet photo paper in a laser printer to do this, it doesn't have to be laser photo paper. You can't use an inkjet printer to print the pattern though because it won't transfer to the board. Only toner sticks to the board, so you must print with a laser printer. Also don't use the T-shirt transfer paper to try and do this... it won't work because it leaves a thin silm stuck to the entire board when you peel the paper off.
pyronaught 2 years ago
This tells me squat - from what I can see on the video, I can print my PCB design on a piece of paper, iron it onto the board, dunk it in solution and viola its done - lucky for me I know this isn't the case.
Xx14n 2 years ago
Huh inkjet printer? Some people told me you need to use a laser jet printer, does it matter or not? Personally I think a laserjet will give you a better result.
Oh and people, if you're using a PCB layout program, save the result, open it in Photoshop and save it with 500DPi, this will give you a better result and you want have any blocks on the lines.
DemoScener 2 years ago
Yep it matter's Inkjet's dont use toner, Laserjet toner bonds with heat thus trying to iron on ink from a inkjet will give poor results.
Lokivoid 2 years ago
The DPI setting only changes the scale factor for the rulers. If you save a file using a lossless format (ie not JPG) you can save it as 1 dpi or 30,000 dpi and the files will be byte for byte identical except for the bytes used to store "1" and "30000".
teejfalconaf 2 years ago
will it matter if i use regular ink or do i have to use photo ink, also when i iron the photo paper it keeps sticking to my iron im using staples photo plus (gloss)
mgandza 2 years ago
Guys, you can't use an inkjet printer! The author specifies using only inkjet picture paper, but on a laser printer! Toner contains plastic, which melts to the substrate, in this case paper and when reheated, it melts again onto the pcb (as well as it remains stuck onto the paper).
nick1f 2 years ago
Ink jets do a burst of nuclear fusion as they fire!
JonThm 2 years ago 2
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fuzic 2 years ago
If you want to go as cheep as you can then let someone do the etching for you. By the time you get all the materials and know-how, you will destroy a dozens of PCBs. There is a "PCB Etching Service" on ebay that makes PCBs quite cheap.
mika00969 2 years ago
This happened to me too. What solved the problem was (alot) more ironing. Rotate the pcb 90degrees and repeat. Repeat that until it has been fully rotatet.
bbytew 2 years ago
Mine didn't stay on the pcb, some of it did, but half of it stayed on the paper...
jojje302 2 years ago
can't understand what you're doing! at least make use of the captions and annotations in youtube!!!
namzer0 3 years ago
make a better video.. like... better quality and maybe some voice will also help.
DjAdam16 3 years ago
"i tried it but it did not work:( my paper would not stick to my board:( "
try to head your pcb board before applying the picture paper... and remember... dont try to mavo your paper to much because as soon as you put the paper on the hot board ... it will stick.
DjAdam16 3 years ago
woooooooooooooow good
LECHUGA89N 3 years ago
Can someone explain to me how it works given that its made of copper? shouldn't it short circuit?
Svendevarennes 3 years ago
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ieGod 2 years ago
yeah thats probably why i have problems, i dont clean it before (soap and water thats all) nor do mi sand it, and im using magazine paper... i must get some picture paper!
Killrsheep 3 years ago
i tried it but it did not work:( my paper would not stick to my board:(
XSRtiliry 3 years ago
Get a drill press, it'll make your job easier than with an X-Acto knife.
dmgeltigre 3 years ago
You will get better results after cooling the clad in cold water (about 5 min). Laser printers are sweet for making the image, but most heating elements arn't so good. Note that leaving the clad in cold water for about 5 min will help in two ways, one to prepare the board for removing the paper transfer and cooling the clad to about, or below room temp.
weild1 3 years ago
wow. looks like a good result. but i prefer photo-PCBs :)
Tilex1990 4 years ago
Hey, you're lucky to have found a paper which detaches by itself from the PCB when soaked...
TexZK 4 years ago
That and resistant, I know.
Which printer and type of ink used?
Which paper you used?
I use Epson DurabriteUltra and functions.
Tks
alego3dx 4 years ago
oh sorry,i understood the printer,not the paper,i read only now the laser printer use in your blog,it was a my oversight
ciccibelli 4 years ago
not inktjet,say laserjet,be honest!
ciccibelli 4 years ago
INKJET picture paper
elmodman 4 years ago
@elmodman
this paper is great:)
can u give the brand name of the paper that u used in this video?
full name pls, (includin weight gr/m2)
LehiMPompasI 1 year ago
@elmodman
Do u wash the board, after cleanin with acetone at preparation step? Or start transfer without washin the board, after the acetone cleanin?
LehiMPompasI 1 year ago
i wish i could SEE what was going on =/
jout8 4 years ago 21
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I wish you would read the instruction on the blog. If you CAN read!
elmodman 4 years ago
Settle down. The reason people are on here is to watch the videos. Not to go off onto some random blog. Next time put your nice pictures in the video for us so we know what we're looking at. I wasn't trying to flame you.
jout8 4 years ago 32
Don't be a little faggot about it... this video is a demonstration for his blog.
GasolineWaltz 2 years ago
@elmodman I know it is two years old but this is a very poor video. Hope you have learned how to improve your camera skills since then. Also hope you have stopped being so defensive.
BibsyP 1 year ago
you make it look so easy. what brand of paper is it?
I never seem to have any luck with that method, its always broken and messed up, even with the special "Press-n-Peel" paper.
ratgod 4 years ago
not solder holes, its to stop bubbles when you apply the iron
michaeljking 4 years ago
gonna try that
MeisterHenning 4 years ago
Why did you poke holes in the paper just before placing it on the board and ironing?
cjunk351 5 years ago