I contacted our local police and the ICC to motivate them to send a representative here (Surrey BC Canada) to take bush into custody , well the RCMP were ready to do so but the ICC sent no one to make it legal and couldn't do it.. I sent another letter to the ICC telling them my disappointment and the fact that they won't be needed as soon the people will conduct the business themselves soon, with the "Occupy" movement growing worldwide and people are being made aware! The people are the POWER!!
Let's say Al Bashir actually carried out those acts indirectly as asylees and those who oppose Sudanese gov't, no other gov't has rights to interfere in soverignty of another nation.
This is a clear message to Melez Zenawi of Ethiopia's EPRDF. Killing, Raping destroying property of the Ogadeni Civilians will landing you to ICC. The Ethiopian leader Melez Zenawi and head of the Army must be brought to International Criminal Court for their crime against humanity in the Ogaden and State of Somalia.
When 911 happened there was no fall guy but promotions all accross the board. Theres always an investigation outside of the borders of who actualy is proping up these dictatorors and when it comes home to Mother CIA,The Saddam ties are quickly broken and the Mainstream Agendists do what they have always done Since VietNam. Its Smoke, Blow it from somone eleses ass to hide our own. Do we Care, Ask Palistine that one first.All we hear is ZION
Sudan is not a signatory to the ICC, this court bullies poor African countries because they are easy targets.
I'm not really head over heals on Bashir but I will defend the guy to the death, I will not allow the west to humiliate our country like you Americans have been doing to third world countries since the 1950s
So seeking justice for the innocent victims in Darfur is bullying and humiliating them? Sorry, I don't see how that makes any sense. There are at least 300,000 dead, countless others raped and permanently maimed, entire villages burned to the ground, and at least 2.5 million refugees as a result. If Bashir is not responsible for orchestrating it, he is certainly responsible for not stopping it. Please don't lump all Americans into the same category. We're not all corrupt, soulless politicians.
Of course it is, SUDAN DID NOT SIGN TO THE ICC!!! isn't that clear, we have our own courts to deal with "war Crimes". What's funny is, you say 300,000 people have died but the ICC prosecuter says 135,000. Various NGOs said there was no Genocide taking place including MSF and Oxfam. Infact America is the only country to call Darfur Genocide, hmmm, what does that show. Sudan has to cooperate with Bush for counter terrorism or we get charged with Genocide.
Not signing on to the ICC doesn't erase Bashir's criminal liability. Again, if he didn't orchestrate it, he is certainly responsible for allowing it to continue. We could argue forever about the actual totals are and whether they meet the definition of genocide. I've seen estimates of 200k, 300k, and over 400k dead. The real point is that innocent people are starving to death, being murdered, raped, maimed and forced from their homes. Do you have a solution, or will you just keep side-stepping?
AMEN!!! You could not have said it better!! As an American, I completely support my president being charged with war crimes. He is completely guilty of those and of treason against the USA - for lying to us to further his own agenda - thus causing the unneeded death of thousands of American soldiers. Keep up the fight! Peace.
The innocence theorists are starting to see the reality of the world. For generations people thought is only happened to someone else. Now that it's obviously global they are starting to connect the dots. Justice for the elites is drawing near.
GG +5 yea, if they're for justice, they must prosecute King Bush as well. But I thought it was 2 million displaced Iraqi Refugees, pretty sure of that.
Actually, roughly half (just over 2 million) have been forced outside the country (to Syria and Jordan), the rest displaced within Iraq. Google "Confronting the Iraq Refugee Crisis." The total number of refugees represents 20% of the Iraqi population.
As important as Darfur justice is, and prosecution of Bush is for his lies to promote a pointless and costly war, to let a group of World-Cops in the Netherlands prosecute our President would void our Constitution and our national sovereignty. The ICC has no world-government authority as long as other countries have borders. Let us be careful about such invitations.
Thanks Jerry. I certainly don't disagree about being careful. But I don't think there's a bigger threat to our national sovereignty than allowing these Bushco criminals to escape unpunished. It's not just about international justice. This administration and their accomplices in Congress have already largely voided our Constitution, with the removal of habeas corpus, illegal spying and retroactive immunity for themselves and telecoms, all in the name of their completely fraudulent war on terror.
So you're saying that the US (or any other nation) s/ have an absolutely untrammeled right to do whatever it wants w/ no international repercussions whatsoever? When we arrest a murderer, we take away his sovereignty as a human being - are you against that? Generally speaking, people are against intnl law because they don't think it'll favor us. Tough. We s/ be on the same playing field with everyone else following the same rules. It'll hurt a bit @ first, but it'll be good for us in the end.
I am saying that a rogue American president is a problem, but a rogue world government is a worse problem. We don't elect, control or have sway over the ICC. As corruption finds the ICC, which is inevitable if not current, we have no recourse, no representation, no influence, no hope. Global central authority is the opposite of individual freedom and self-determination.
You want the ICC to kick Bush's ass. That's our job, not some court in the Netherlands. Luckily you and I know the problem. We need to wake up our neighbors, not invite world government to run our country for us.
We have a lot of problems to fix now thanks to Bush & Co, but we will only like the fix if we do it ourselves. Bush has gone too far and it's just a matter of time until we can wake people up to it, then congress and the military industrial complex will have hell to pay.
Unfortunately, we don't seem to being kicking Bush's ass out at all. He's still right there. He's going to finish out his 8 yrs and laugh his ass off at us all the way to Crawford or Paraguay or wherever he ends up. The story w/ world govt is the same as w/ our govt. Don't say "it may become corrupt." Of course it may, anything can become corrupt. Anything will, IF LEFT ALONE. The problem w/ all these institutions is lack of citizen involvement.
But I return to my orginal question now. We know, as a nation, that what we're doing in Iraq is wrong. We know that our reasons for invading were false. Despite this, we've failed to act to remove the people responsible, or even to leave the country we falsely attacked, where we continue to be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths each year. Are you saying that our divine right of sovereignty s/ shield us from outside intervention, even though we refuse to correct these obvious wrongs?
Very good video; and thanks for that info (ICC). When you made that last comment about Bush and his warcrimes, my thought was of an addition to that comment: ("...tell that to the dead, tell that to the refugees..."); my addition was "and tell that to the tortured".
I contacted our local police and the ICC to motivate them to send a representative here (Surrey BC Canada) to take bush into custody , well the RCMP were ready to do so but the ICC sent no one to make it legal and couldn't do it.. I sent another letter to the ICC telling them my disappointment and the fact that they won't be needed as soon the people will conduct the business themselves soon, with the "Occupy" movement growing worldwide and people are being made aware! The people are the POWER!!
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ArmenOfTheNorth 1 year ago
Great video my friend its all a consiparcy by the western govnerments
2010MujahidBoxing 1 year ago
Let's say Al Bashir actually carried out those acts indirectly as asylees and those who oppose Sudanese gov't, no other gov't has rights to interfere in soverignty of another nation.
NiloticHeir 3 years ago
I like your logic, jperryam
Darfur is one complicated tribal conflict, herders vs. farmers. ICC is formed by major G8 members as far as I know, so there must be hidden agendas.
NiloticHeir 3 years ago
This is a clear message to Melez Zenawi of Ethiopia's EPRDF. Killing, Raping destroying property of the Ogadeni Civilians will landing you to ICC. The Ethiopian leader Melez Zenawi and head of the Army must be brought to International Criminal Court for their crime against humanity in the Ogaden and State of Somalia.
HabibWatt 3 years ago
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mameyz 3 years ago 2
Not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan also Palestine is the biggest hypocrisy.
AdorIslam 3 years ago
good work as always.
Aliof 3 years ago
John it seems to be a sign of the times.
When 911 happened there was no fall guy but promotions all accross the board. Theres always an investigation outside of the borders of who actualy is proping up these dictatorors and when it comes home to Mother CIA,The Saddam ties are quickly broken and the Mainstream Agendists do what they have always done Since VietNam. Its Smoke, Blow it from somone eleses ass to hide our own. Do we Care, Ask Palistine that one first.All we hear is ZION
cycimian 3 years ago
Sudan is not a signatory to the ICC, this court bullies poor African countries because they are easy targets.
I'm not really head over heals on Bashir but I will defend the guy to the death, I will not allow the west to humiliate our country like you Americans have been doing to third world countries since the 1950s
Omer698 3 years ago 3
So seeking justice for the innocent victims in Darfur is bullying and humiliating them? Sorry, I don't see how that makes any sense. There are at least 300,000 dead, countless others raped and permanently maimed, entire villages burned to the ground, and at least 2.5 million refugees as a result. If Bashir is not responsible for orchestrating it, he is certainly responsible for not stopping it. Please don't lump all Americans into the same category. We're not all corrupt, soulless politicians.
jperryam 3 years ago
Of course it is, SUDAN DID NOT SIGN TO THE ICC!!! isn't that clear, we have our own courts to deal with "war Crimes". What's funny is, you say 300,000 people have died but the ICC prosecuter says 135,000. Various NGOs said there was no Genocide taking place including MSF and Oxfam. Infact America is the only country to call Darfur Genocide, hmmm, what does that show. Sudan has to cooperate with Bush for counter terrorism or we get charged with Genocide.
Omer698 3 years ago
Not signing on to the ICC doesn't erase Bashir's criminal liability. Again, if he didn't orchestrate it, he is certainly responsible for allowing it to continue. We could argue forever about the actual totals are and whether they meet the definition of genocide. I've seen estimates of 200k, 300k, and over 400k dead. The real point is that innocent people are starving to death, being murdered, raped, maimed and forced from their homes. Do you have a solution, or will you just keep side-stepping?
jperryam 3 years ago
This despot (along with his henchmen) need to tried in The Hague for war crimes. Frankly, they should hang for their crimes against humanity.
Others that supported and are sympathetic to these thugs need to be taken to a secret location for deprogramming.
We truly live in surreal times! Peace JP.
SkedBoard 3 years ago
Well put
TexasCreoleGumbo 3 years ago
Or come to mention it, all the UK priministers who have supported him?
gangstagrannie 3 years ago
when are Bush & co going to court then?
gangstagrannie 3 years ago
when we take them there ;)
thecoolconejoman 3 years ago
WELL SAID. Arrest BUSH the lying psycho-killer.
idasputem 3 years ago 3
US government removed themselves from ICC before Afghanistan and Iraq war. How convenient.
KDOGLEY 3 years ago 2
AMEN!!! You could not have said it better!! As an American, I completely support my president being charged with war crimes. He is completely guilty of those and of treason against the USA - for lying to us to further his own agenda - thus causing the unneeded death of thousands of American soldiers. Keep up the fight! Peace.
no2hate 3 years ago
if this man being charged it is due to the world gov. including ours wanting this man out for something our gov. and the queen want.
mountain19 3 years ago
Email gone!
PollenB 3 years ago
Justice Now.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
2nd Amendment now.
thecoolconejoman 3 years ago
Good start, but I want the whole bunch back!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
I will do my part, and spread the information
lbpeacemaker 3 years ago
"...a man charged with crimes against humanity, murder, rape...", promoted to the head of Humanitarian Affairs?!!
Left me speechless.
Thanks for the link and info.
You are providing a great service.
Thanks again!
CognitiveDisonance 3 years ago 2
The innocence theorists are starting to see the reality of the world. For generations people thought is only happened to someone else. Now that it's obviously global they are starting to connect the dots. Justice for the elites is drawing near.
SlaveStorm 3 years ago
Thanks again John,
It is Patriots like you that get things done!
Peace
realnewsdm 3 years ago
GG +5 yea, if they're for justice, they must prosecute King Bush as well. But I thought it was 2 million displaced Iraqi Refugees, pretty sure of that.
Lucidtomr 3 years ago
Actually, roughly half (just over 2 million) have been forced outside the country (to Syria and Jordan), the rest displaced within Iraq. Google "Confronting the Iraq Refugee Crisis." The total number of refugees represents 20% of the Iraqi population.
jperryam 3 years ago
As important as Darfur justice is, and prosecution of Bush is for his lies to promote a pointless and costly war, to let a group of World-Cops in the Netherlands prosecute our President would void our Constitution and our national sovereignty. The ICC has no world-government authority as long as other countries have borders. Let us be careful about such invitations.
minivanjack 3 years ago
Thanks Jerry. I certainly don't disagree about being careful. But I don't think there's a bigger threat to our national sovereignty than allowing these Bushco criminals to escape unpunished. It's not just about international justice. This administration and their accomplices in Congress have already largely voided our Constitution, with the removal of habeas corpus, illegal spying and retroactive immunity for themselves and telecoms, all in the name of their completely fraudulent war on terror.
jperryam 3 years ago
So you're saying that the US (or any other nation) s/ have an absolutely untrammeled right to do whatever it wants w/ no international repercussions whatsoever? When we arrest a murderer, we take away his sovereignty as a human being - are you against that? Generally speaking, people are against intnl law because they don't think it'll favor us. Tough. We s/ be on the same playing field with everyone else following the same rules. It'll hurt a bit @ first, but it'll be good for us in the end.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
I am saying that a rogue American president is a problem, but a rogue world government is a worse problem. We don't elect, control or have sway over the ICC. As corruption finds the ICC, which is inevitable if not current, we have no recourse, no representation, no influence, no hope. Global central authority is the opposite of individual freedom and self-determination.
minivanjack 3 years ago
You want the ICC to kick Bush's ass. That's our job, not some court in the Netherlands. Luckily you and I know the problem. We need to wake up our neighbors, not invite world government to run our country for us.
minivanjack 3 years ago 2
We have a lot of problems to fix now thanks to Bush & Co, but we will only like the fix if we do it ourselves. Bush has gone too far and it's just a matter of time until we can wake people up to it, then congress and the military industrial complex will have hell to pay.
minivanjack 3 years ago
Unfortunately, we don't seem to being kicking Bush's ass out at all. He's still right there. He's going to finish out his 8 yrs and laugh his ass off at us all the way to Crawford or Paraguay or wherever he ends up. The story w/ world govt is the same as w/ our govt. Don't say "it may become corrupt." Of course it may, anything can become corrupt. Anything will, IF LEFT ALONE. The problem w/ all these institutions is lack of citizen involvement.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
But I return to my orginal question now. We know, as a nation, that what we're doing in Iraq is wrong. We know that our reasons for invading were false. Despite this, we've failed to act to remove the people responsible, or even to leave the country we falsely attacked, where we continue to be responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths each year. Are you saying that our divine right of sovereignty s/ shield us from outside intervention, even though we refuse to correct these obvious wrongs?
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
whole world gone mad ....
polidic 3 years ago
Very good video; and thanks for that info (ICC). When you made that last comment about Bush and his warcrimes, my thought was of an addition to that comment: ("...tell that to the dead, tell that to the refugees..."); my addition was "and tell that to the tortured".
GLOBALRESISTANCE 3 years ago
Absolutely, my friend. Thank you....
jperryam 3 years ago
Well atleast people in Darfur aren't full of their own shit and can actually bring the bad guys to justice.
lyden2006 3 years ago
who can do this the world is in satans hands at this moment
rnv09 3 years ago
Satan's time is running very short!
1000You2b0001 3 years ago