rugby players also do not have enough fun with scoring tries and being flashy. There is a player that was named Chad Johnson (#85) who changed his name to Chad OCHOCINCO which is 85 in Spanish (for you idiots out there) Also look up highlights for Terrell Owens and Ochocinco touchdown celebrations, now that is having a good time. Football players know how to celebrate on the field (rugby players take the cake off the field LOL)
and you rugby fans should look up "NFL front flip touchdown" it is wicked awesome
I also think this video proofs that football is extreamly high speed during the play especially at 3:23 and 3:35 that is why football players ware pads. And those are slow speed compared to some plays
you frigging rugby players do not celebrate like AF when you score a try. I agree there are some players that celebrate after a try, but have you rugby players ever seen a Terrell Owens or
Ochocinco highlight. Thats right there is a football player that changed his last name to his # in spanish. OCHOCINCO!!!!! Rugby players do not have enough fun after a try. Celebrate a little more
would a american football player continue to play if his balls were ripped out and stitched up?? idk aye buck shelford (a legendary nz rugby player) got his ripped out by a player from the opposition and he told to doc stitch it up so he can keep on playing. thats pretty hardcore
@mcnaughty2024 I know a quarter back (who is hit constantly by ppl going full speed) with a torn ACL, a person who played the game of his life in the superbowl wit a broken leg, a person with broken ribs playing quarter back, a person (still playing QB) with a horribly broken ankle needed surgery and all that shit, and I know there is more i just cannot think of it right now. And the answer is yes they would. But don ot get me wrong rugby players are tough too
rugby players are probably just as big as NFL players...just look at teams like the all blacks or south Africa. Rugby is a much tougher and harder sport....why do you need pussy pads to play football...i dare any football player to step on a rugby pitch and see
AF players are generally bigger than R players. The average size in the NFL is 6'4 248lb (112kg). AF players are also overall, Faster and Stronger.
Helmet and pads are worn because AF is a game of constant collission, the varience in player sizes is far greater than in Rugby, and when AF is played without equipment, people die, frequently!
@terrortorn Is that really all you have? There are generally around 1200 hits in an AF game. Also AF hits are massively harder than R hits, sometimes reaching 200 G's. R hits are usually around 10-15 G's. Only someone who's not experienced AF's brutal play, and exhausting nature, would cite such an obscure, short sighted, incorrect, article.
@bebomac5 I see you know the article? Why do you discredit it? I have no doubt some Rugby Union tackles are weaker.I have no data regarding the power involved in Rugby Leagues "reaching" tackles to compare. I am not impressed by players tackling those without the ball or pushing from a 50cm run up. Its only exhausting to Americans and maybe your wide receivers untill the defense comes on and they get a rest every 5 mins. RL is demanding for every player, our kickers put in 80 mins.
"I am not impressed by players tackling those without the ball or pushing from a 50cm run up."
Not knowing the major difference between tackling and blocking is a perfect illustration of your complete lack of knowlege of the sport.
Your total ignorance of how massive the collisions at the line are, and how insanely powerful the players are, is a perfect example of someone who's never faced anything like it. You literally, have no clue!
@terrortorn As far as the article, I can confidently discredit it, because I see 100's of games per year, on all levels, and have played 100's more at very high levels. It's a bogus stat.
Fyi, since you typically, took the oppotunity to take a shot at my country, you should know that the US is the most "sporting" nation on the planet. We play, watch, and support more sports thn any other, by far! It's rare that NCAA & NFL players are not Elite in at least one other sport.
There's no doubt that more running is required in R, but like most R fans, you severely underestimate AF player's endurance.
Btw, R players generally only run at absolute top speed, less than 10% of the time, if not much less. If you don't move at 100% speed, 100% of the time in AF, you "will" Fail!
Also, I never understand why it's so hard for R fans to accept the indisputable Fact that AF hits are massively harder, more dangerous, and vicious than R hits. Not close.
@bebomac5 Well you are not the most sporting nation. The insularity of your nations pastimes put paid to that. World Series of Baseball involving the US and ........err.....? I have seen no published rebuke of the NYT article, is there one? I have no doubt that the technique of AF lends itself to some spectacular hits. Massively harder, against RL, no! A large Englishman or Australian hits just as hard as an American but without pads.
@terrortorn There's literally no sport that isn't played, to some degree in the US. The US has more participants in athletics than any other nation, It has more sports leagues than any other nation, Americans spend more money playing/watching/supporting sports than any other nation, there is more sports coverage than any other nation. The USA is, by far, the worlds premier sporting nation.
@terrortorn You've seen no rebuke, because it's not worthy of our time. I now have17 24/7 all sports TV channels, the article is so far removed from reality, it didn't warent attn. from anyone.
The hits in AF are harder because it's the nature of the game, with or without equipt. No doubt that ENG and AUS athletes could hit as hard, if they played AF, but hits that big never happen in R.
Challenge: list any data you find in regards to the maximum, or even the average R hit.
@bebomac5 I don't think there is any underestimation of AF. RU and AF have a lot in common. RU is ridiculously convoluted to the point of frustration of both spectators and players and results is a raft of measures ad nauseum to combat this. But AF has taken this to a new level. A 3 hour circus presenting "potentially" 11 minutes of play. It's said Americans are the best at making the mundane seem exciting but only it seems to those who are brought up with it.
@terrortorn Interesting take, considering League has more in common with AF than Union, a fact which is echoed by most R fans.
Relatively few AF games are televised, yet most are "packed" in attendance. Regardless of whether there's a single camera, commecial, banner, etc., Americans go, because we are obsessed with "The Game"! The circus as you call it, follows the ppl, who follow the game, and would be there no matter what, regardless of the level, HS, College, Pro.
@bebomac5 AF has some unusual qualities that do not work in the UK. Your teams get up and move cities. They are not necessarily committed to geography combine this with representing major populations and you are virtually guaranteed large audiences. No larger however than for instance Association Football in the UK and definitely not football abroad and that game occasions 0-0 draws. There is literally no sport that's not played in the UK and probably all over Europe The US is not apart in that.
@terrortorn You have huge misconceptions about American sports. Teams moving rarely happens, and often results in an expansion of teams,but when it does, it's a heart breaking event. However, the UK doesn't have hundreds of major cities that can support teams, and are willing to fight to get a team. But like I said, it's very rare, and 95% of teams have never, and will never move.
No matter what you say, the US is by far the biggest sporting nation, it's not a debate.
@terrortorn Do you honestly thing the 78,000 ppl at this insignificant, regular season game, between bad teams, are sitting out in literally, life threatening weather (18f / 8c) for 3 hours, for entertainment, pageantry, and advertisements? Their there because they love the game, and to cheer and support the Browns, the pride of their city, the same way they have for the last 70+ years.
@bebomac5 No doubt the technique of diving head first into another players helmet (the one on his head) is a tough if somewhat basic method of imparting force. The requirement of a helmet in this is integral and so mostly not available to RL players. I don't know of any RL testing of impact it being higher than RU impact due to the legality of more forceful techniques. Maybe there is no rebuke because there is an inherent truth that is not worth the publicity in testing.
@terrortorn You, like many R fans, have such awful knowlege of AF technique, and how much time and effort is spent in learning and practicing technique, which by the way is very different from Rugby. Someone executing R tackling technique on the FB field, will be massacred.
AF head clashes are often unavoidable, it's simply the nature of the game, with or without helmets.
Perhaps your unaware of the sports media here. they cover everything worth covering, and love controversy!
@bebomac5 RL does have a lot in common with AF unfortunately this is often meant as offensive. The original comment by the Duke of Edinburgh referring to how he prefers the schoolboy code. Unfortunately many RU types need their considerable hyperbole balloon deflating with a bit of fact. If AF had gone down the RL route the nature of world sport would be very different.
@bebomac5 Not too impressed by the Alabama practice game gaining large crowds. Alabama is a large place, large population, maybe a cheep entrance fee, maybe not a lot going on in the sporting world that weekend in Alabama. maybe there was some good barbeque in the car park? Who knows. Ive been to a Superbowl mate, Its not all its cracked up to be. The atmosphere is very different in the rest of the worlds crowds to major sporting event. Not so noisy at the SB, Not so engaging.
@terrortorn Lol! Alabama has a fairly "Small" population: Fewer than 5 Million. Compare that to bordering States: Georgia 10 Million, Florida 19 Million. The point is, that this happens at almost every major school, (120 of them) and sub major, (there are 1000's), regardless of location, whether it's Michigan, Texas, or the corn fields of Nebraska, it doesn't matter. AF fans frequently, and routinely travel 100's if not 100's of miles to support their team, weekly.
@terrortorn It's absolutly typical of a non AF fan to make a judgement based on the SB. The Superbowl is "light years" removed from what AF games are like. 2/3 of the crowd are not even fans of either team, and some are not even big FB fans, overly frequent commercials, 40 minute halftime, as opposed to the normal 12 minutes.
Ther is NOTHING to match the passion of AF fans. I too have been to SB's, it's a lot of fun, but nothing like 99% of AF games.
@terrortorn It should also be noted that the relationship between AF fans and their team, is unlike any sport on Earth. AF fans play an active role in the fortunes of their team, and are an actual participant in team strategy. Knowing how to cheer, why to cheer, when to cheer, and what to say and do, is vital. You think you know about this sport, you don't. You're on the outside looking in, and should investigate more closely before commenting. Makes you look ignorant.
@terrortorn super bowl isn't as good as going to a home championship game because the crowd is more neutral. Nothing is better than going to a home AFC or NFC championship game to go to the superbowl. You got a bad taste of AF, try it again one day
This is an Alabama Crimson Tide spring "practice" game. The game was not televised, heavily marketed, or aggrandized. However, the attendance was around 80,000 people. Hmm, why do you think that is?...And oh yeah...their playing themselves.
There are hundreds of games, and turn outs such as this, around the country. You seem like you only exposure to AF is the Superbowl, in essense...you know nothing.
@ItalianLegion football players play with pads because they dont want to die. when they didnt use pads, they DID DIE. and most football players are black. just so you know.
They are completely different and incomparable sports. One based on high intensity and powerful over a short burst with a huge amount of strategic planning between plays, the other around high fitness, continuity and reacting to the situation as it occurs. Neither is better or more manly. Rugby players, by nature of the game, are smaller so the padding is less necessary. Most rugby players would get munched in the NFL. Most Gridiron players would get run into the ground in rugby
I think of it as playing full on backyard football vs regular football. Backyard can fucking hurt if you get hit openly ,other than that you are fine. Real football you get blindsided alot (QB here) and that is the worst.
@MPCnicks Ma'a Nonu, Jonah Lomu, Henry Tuilagi, Alesana Tuilagi, Manu Tuilagi, Sonny Bill Williams, Jerry Collins, Jerome Kaino, Tony Williams, Fuifui Moimoi, Richard Kahui, Sean Obrien, Sebastian Chabal, Mose Masoe, Nasi Manu, Manu Vatuvai, Willem Alberts, Pierre Spies, Bakkies Botha, Schalk Burger.
Neither game is soft or deserving of cheap shots from one eyed arrogant tools who've not played at the elite level in both codes. Different rules dictates the sport from body shape to diet, training, etc..
its funny when the rugby fans call football players pussies, because of the pads.. id like to see one of the rugby greats go head up against a prime earl campbell and try to bring him down.. the NFL elite are juacked, shredded, monsters who like to hit people hard, to call them pussys is laughable.. another insecure fan trying to get americas attention... WE DONT CARE.. Super Bowl in less than 24 hours...
@lifesaach lol i watched a rugby highlight and lost count of all the advertisements, seevral on their jerseys, painted on the field, and the wall around the field was nothing but advertisements..
Beautifully done bro! Love the games. Played all three here in Auckland. Auckland Marist / Mount Albert / North Shore Bears-South Auckland Raiders...League/Rugby/Football...fun times. Hard hits. Good mates. :)
harder hitting in football because of pads... more physical damage because of the lack of pads. Rugby wins with physicality on a professional level but I still say go pats
I play college rugby and there are kids on my team who play both college rugby and college football. Injuries in both sports... but they say there is way more blood in rugby because there are no pads.
What the fuck did you say? Have you been hit by a professional American football player? Theres a reason you wear pads. The speed and intesity 10x more than the best of the worlds rugby players. Probably none of them could touch our best running backs.
@lifesaach Without pads there were a number of deaths in football. Pads were only introduced to prevent deaths/crushed skulls. Being smart about playing a physical sport does not make someone a faggot. I can create a sport similar to rugby only with metal pipes and you can crush every ones bones, then I can call you a faggot for being a pussy and not using metal poles.
@TheCrusader1994 That is based off of no fact whatsoever. Power lifting is a sport. MMA fighters are, pound for pound, almost 2.5x as strong. Professional runners? If you try to pull the BS of " I meant all together " I will put anyone on defense or O-line against any UFC Light-heavyweight/Heavyweight. UFC will dominate in every criteria. Furthermore, Rugby forwards. They dominate any lineman in American football. I know. I was both.
@Outdoorsforum im talking team sports. in my opinion a sport has to have an offense and a defense. with that definition, football players are the biggest, fastest and strongest.
after reading through half the bullshit that was said by both sides i have come to one conclusion. We Need To Stop Arguing Over These Two Amazing Sports And Gang Up On The True Pussy Sport. FUCK SOCCER A.K.A football for everybody else.
@holyinator you talk like the rugby world will gang up with shameful american eggball fans hahaha.. NEVER.. just put that pads and helmets, then maybe we can be on the same side..
personally i would pick rugby over AF, my reason are.. in rugby your not playing out of a playbook, rugby games are always different as soon as the kickoff start.
Every player in rugby can be playmakers and not just afew in AF.
Every player in rugby is expected to be defenders, attackers and supporters for the full 80mins
rugby game play is more continuous through out then AF, where you run a "play".. then break and reset for attack/defense
People get killed playing football without helmet and pads -- 19 college players in a single year once. In 1905 the American government seriously considered banning the sport. Nothing in rugby history can compare to that. Think im lying . search it up
I grew up playing tackle football on paved streets & in parks with no pads/helmets before playing in local leagues. Many NFL players do this sort of thing growing up. This was 10x the roughness of rugby. AF routinely has more piercing, blind side & harder angle of attack hits at full bore (all defensive backs sole & inherent reason for existence) than any rules rugby. Helmets/pads mandated, because people died & the U.S. government threatened to ban it otherwise. Research 1905 Pres. Roosevelt!
Let's be honest here. American football is a game were each player is a specialist at his position. The 1st string are the very best on the team at it. Players are built for speed and built for power! I do respect rugby though they are some hard hitters in thier own rite! No disrespect but it seems like playing soccer with your hands until the touchdowns and field goals start happening.
american athletes are better in general because they play more than just one sport. in europe they only spend their time on one sport. look at tom brady. he plays in the nfl and was drafted into baseball also/ also other players played more than one sport pro
the arguing is pointless i play rugby and am a big NFL sport their both tough dangerous sport in their own way, yeh its a matter of opinion but either way their both the best sports on earth
@akinrinmade00 totally agree, played football and rugby respectively for 5 years each and both are tough and awesome in their own regards, people need to relax with this whole who is better and tougher crap, just go and play whatever one you like more
I get the whole argument against pads, but when you have them on you think you're invincible. There is no flinching when you hit. You go full speed head first into them. It's a completely different tackle than MOST rugby tackles. This AF stly leads to brain injuries and crippling diseases later in life. Rugby players can say they're hard asses for that gash in their head, but that will heal. Football players Collegiate and up are most likely fucked up for life.
I see your points. Its easy to play when you think your are invincible. Takes balls to take a creash ball and crash flesh and bone into guys much bigger than you, then get one a second later and get ready to go again. 1/3 of players on a professional rugby team can easily be injuried on a squad.Diferent sport different injuries.My buddies Tibia bone poped out of his leg a month ago. Long term injuries should not be a bragging point. Just saying.
@Quinno77 Not bragging, just stating facts. Injuries such as limb breaks, strains, sprains, pulls, tears, etc. are quite common and similar in both sports, but serious and catastrophic injury rates are much higher in AF. It's impossible to play AF and not be injured. The fortunes of teams can often be determined by how many players they can keep upright. This occurs with "sissy" pads and only 16 games. Btw, ever seen a guys head touch his a**? watch?v=tRD2FzuxacM.
@bebomac5 I see your point. It may be more dangerous in the long term. Shiort term both sports are just as bad. .Average play in AF is like 3 seconds right?Right now i have inflamed fluid in both my shoudlers,broken tow, and hairline fracture in my ankle ankle. Soo happy its the off season. (gallery.me.com/maxhaynes#104427/10-23-11-2-22&bgcolor=black)= our last game.
In rugby we don't sit on the bench after a turnover or score, and we can only sub off once so most players play the whole 80 minutes! we don't wear helmets, padding doesn't mean anything lol we play 80, gridiron 60, no blockers when you have the ball in rugby, goal kicking isn't right in front of the goal posts, and kickers can kick the ball from up to 60 meters (65yards). Rugby players play BOTH offense AND defense!! most payed? pfft passion for the game! thats why rugby's the best!!!!!!!! ;)
Its true theya re very athletic for 3 seconds at a time. They also have very narrow skill sets. Rugby players need to do everything-catch,kick,pass run,tackle,ruck,lineout,scrum. Attacking and deffending one play after the other. Both are athletes. The american football fiedl is also much smaller. I live in USA an watch football. Differnt sport cant compare.
@sconny09 How do you compare NFL players? Can they play 80 minutes without stopping? Can they beat a player without someone blocking? Can they both defend and attack? The internet makes no sense.
American football player: "Hey i know, lets try and look tough by tackling each other while wearing a motorcycle helmet, tights and enough protection to survive a nuclear bombing".
So much ego about this topic. They are different sports with some similar aspects. I have played both, but primarily rugby. They both take endurance, toughness, and courage. If I had to pick which is tougher I would say it's a draw. Rugby is rough and requires physical stamina like no other. American football is not rough, it is VIOLENT and requires a unique mental toughness. I will say though that as a fan, American football is a beautiful game. I love the uniforms, they look like gladiators.
@Tulo4president And it's almost identical to an old school AF helmet. "sissy pads"? And yet somehow the hits are harder, the injuries are more frequent, and often far more serious.
@Tulo4president ...Shutup... a lot of the hits in rugby are not as hard as in football.... Your a lie.. you Know it.... you dont see folks in rugby... gettin tossed in the air from various angles... and hit while still in the hair.. grapped by the face and slamed... Landin on their... Your talkin garbage ...and your ignorance is showin.
@Tulo4president Just because you suck at football and arent tough enough for it.... dosent make those who have talent in the sport who are good at it a pussy... Your a pussy for callin em a pussy..... and yes i know their spelling errors in my remarks.. but thats beside the point. Bottom line ..is that your a lie...
@Tulo4president so you're saying that from birth people who will eventually play rugby have stronger ligaments and bones then people who will end up playing football? not at all.
if you look at american high school and colleges, the best athletes play football and basketball.. so even with our olympic track team who consistatly competes with the Jamacians, our track guys aren't even our top athletes. We have WORLD Class strength SPEED STRENGTH AGILITY and SKILL in our TWO main sports.
The hardest hit of a rugby match occurs about 20 times per NFL game. What most don't realize is the sheer speed of NFL football. When the 8 picks the rugby ball up from the scrum he would be planted by a 120 kilo linebacker/defensive ned type literally 0.5 seconds after he picked up the ball. When trying to pass to a fly-back the American football corner would break on the ball, intercept it and score a try un-touched. Ruggers have no idea how quick NFL players are.
@iThinkThereforeiCan Bull! I played rugby for at least 7 yrs, my best 100m dash ever is 10.23s. So I guess I'm not slow even compare to the vast majority of Football players. Rugby is a lot more grueling and longer than Football, although some Football hits are tremendous, over-all Rugby is a whole more tiring and so physical. A linebacker would never last a full Rugby match. Football players are all covered by layers of protection, are you O.K.?
@amasonga We agree: Rugby as a continuous action sport requires stamina that the NFL athlete is not trained for. My point is that at least initially what the NFL athlete IS trained for would completely overwhelm Ruggers: The NFL'ers quickness, strength and speed to the ball would simply astound Ruggers. 10.23 is mighty quick, mate, but the NFL has guys pushing 120 kilos clocking 4.5 in the 40 yard dash. Their explosiveness off the line is something Ruggers have never seen. Speed kills
@iThinkThereforeiCan Well, if you want to find real fast rugby players. Those who play rugby sevens are just as quick and with twice as much endurance. NFL players are spoiled with too many facilities, coaching clinics, time-offs, four quaters. I want to see an NFL player with the same explosiveness, playing under the same conditions of those rugby players of the southern hemisphere. Trust me they won't last a match, they're too spoiled.
@amasonga couple weeks ago in the Gold Coast sevens Miles Craigwell former American Football player made a break from there try line against the aussie team. he was quick off the mark till the around the 40 got caught by a 20 yr old who ran from across the field on an angle(longer distance. obviously lol) and ended up tackling him arms wrapped and and took him off his feet and into the sideline. Rugby sevens players are the best athletes.
ignore the yanks who think 40 yrd dashes are everything.
@aseroxmilez As a CB, Craigwell ran a 4.6 40. There's a reason he's not in the NFL. AF players are generally faster at 100 meters as well. Every NCAA and NFL team has multiple players who are as fast are faster than any Rugby player who has ever existed!
@iThinkThereforeiCan Additionally remember Jonah Lomu at almost 130kg clocking 10.7 for the 100m and 4.2something for the 40. Chav of South Africa, in his high school rugby team at almost 17 was 10.12s! Bryan Habana of South Africa(10.25). I never sprinted the 40, so I don't know. There many New Zealanders who are quick too! I'm not saying that NFL players aren't fast, but they have it too easy. Go to South Africa and show me what you got, softies!
@amasonga Your completely full of SH**! A 10.7 100 meter, is around a 4.4 40 yd. NCAA & NFL players are far faster than players in any Rugby code, as well as being bigger, stronger, and more agile.
The only advantage R athletes have overAF plyrs is stamina, which isn't saying much!
While R athletes do run more (in game) than AF plyrs, they still stand, walk, or jog, 80%+ of the time. Btw, what makes you think that AF plyrs don't constantly train for endurance? watch?v=2gpgFVVQSes
@bebomac5 hahahahahaha 80% of the time now he is making up stats bro stop ripping stats out of your rare end. you so underestimate rugby players don't you. you really have no idea what they can do.
@superbill3001 I said 80%+! Only a handfull of plyrs are fully engaged at a time, while others stand ,walk, wait. Lets not forget lineouts, goal kicks, kicking back and forth, penalties, etc. R plyrs get plenty rest! This is typical Rugby pace and tempo: watch?v=hj0huUj1fz8 . Note the vast majority of plyrs who are not near the ball, doing Nothing but positioning and waiting. Plenty Rest! Just debunking many R fans Bullsh**! statements that R players run "nonstop" for 80 minutes!
@bebomac5 Those fat linebacker have no stamina compared to any rugby players, eating hamburgers all the time. I can tell you don't know anything about running/sprinting. Some people are slower starters than others and get faster around the 60 yards line. So to predict how fast they will sprint the 100m dash is bull! NFL players have little endurance, they won't able to train on an empty stomach, would they?
@amasonga psst i have a secret about your anatomy...neither would rugby players m8. From the little rugby ive seen they seem pretty jacked= lots of portein=lots of meat.
@bebomac5 What the NFL has is much more money invested in than in rugby, therefore have access to much more facilities than rugby players, better medical teams as well, clinics,etc... This is why I called them bunch of softies, you have it easy. Tell your Okarpo to sprint 6km , not run, sprint it!! Then to it the gym for 4 hours on an empty stomach, only allowed to drink milk on daily basis. Then we'll see how much weight he'll keep. You guys are a joke, spoiled brats!
@amasonga Do you really think most AF player have access to money and facilities? watch?v=-P80QOkHjmc
It's about the work that you put in, and you obviously don't know just how hard AF plyrs work. Training and conditioning in AF is non stop, and stamina is key. You have alot to learn. AF workouts are generally 2 hrs of running and drills, 1-2 hrs of class room, 2-3 hrs of running, hitting and practice, 2hrs of lifting watch?v=syUyHjdbS48, watch?v=qDa25nZ4GvU, watch?v=2gpgFVVQSes,
@bebomac5 Sorry to this day, I run faster than Brian Okarpo, not bragging I'm mighty quick, thanks to rugby. At 32, I'm still able to sprint the 100m dash under 10.4 daily, and I'm not a professional sportsman. There are people out there that very fast, but we just don't know about them.
@bebomac5 There are plenty of AF players who don't even get the ball after several matches. Telling me that those fat linebackers run, you're kidding. If you really run, you lose weight. Linebackers with bellies touching ground are runners?
@amasonga Let me educate you, because you obviously have Zero knowlege of AF. This is a Linebacker: watch?v=NRF0RwiUFzg , There's no such thing as a "fat" Linebacker. This is a Linemen: watch?v=4Ou6wYC2B7s , Linemen are generally, incredible athletes. Most L are 280-290lb of solid muscle, who carry "alot" of extra body weight, they are truly, "mountains". Btw, many players will never touch the ball in there lives! yet their position is as vital as any other, what's your point?
@bebomac5 Educate me about fat linebackers who can't run? I've played both sports at college level thus I don't need your little excuses. I've played rugby as lock,wing,full-back,eighthman and football as a running back, fullback. Trust me some linebackers are obese!
@amasonga show me "one" fat linebacker, for that matter, show me any player who can't run. HS, college or pro. You either have never played, or you were simply not good enough to play. AF athletes are superior, and it's not close. Your a total clown!
@amasonga Lomu's ht, wt, spd, str, agility, etc. are quite common in AF, his best official 100m time "ever" was 10.8, Habana's is 10.4, check the RFU official website. There are 3-5+ players on "every" NCAA & NFL team, who are as fast or faster than Habana. Btw, Lomu played closer to 125kg. You severely underestimate AF players stamina (especially the big guys) and toughness. Softies? I'd love to see you say that to someone like Brian Orakpo's face. watch?v=fGUc3UL64f0
@bebomac5 What did you say? Jonah Lomu best 100m is 10.7, and was at the age of 17 in school still! You're must be dreaming and he was already almost 125 kg, and in the 1995 world cup, I saw him in South Africa over taking 4-6 players, in 1999 cup in Wales he ran over 8 players from France. The Dallas Cowboys wanted him, but he said no! This is with no pads, get it? Brian Orakpo is nothing compare the Maori called Lomu, nothing.
@amasonga Orakpo is just one of many hundreds, and picked at random. Btw, you do know Lomu is retired, don't you? Also, Lomu, like any unknown, was merely invited to a camp workout and tryout, that is all. I had that!
@bebomac5 Bryan Habana best 100m is between 10.25 or lower. I don't know where you got your data, he might have clocked 10.4 at some other events, but definitely not his fastest. There are maybe less than ten NFL players who are as fast or slightly faster than Habana today, in that I mean having 10.25s in the 100m dash! The 40 is too short of a distance to determine someone's actual speed. Habana school was not far from mine, just to let you know.
@amasonga "less than ten NFL players who are as fast or slightly faster than Habana today" Really? Darrius Heyward-Bey, Chaz Schilens, Jacoby Ford, Denarius Moore, Nick Miller, Michael Bennett, Darren McFadden, Taiwan Jones, Stanford Routt, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware, Tyvon Branch, Mike Mitchell. All of these NFL plyrs run a 10.6 or better, many run 10.3 or better, a few run 10.0, and they all play for the "same team". Care to revise your statement?
rugby players also do not have enough fun with scoring tries and being flashy. There is a player that was named Chad Johnson (#85) who changed his name to Chad OCHOCINCO which is 85 in Spanish (for you idiots out there) Also look up highlights for Terrell Owens and Ochocinco touchdown celebrations, now that is having a good time. Football players know how to celebrate on the field (rugby players take the cake off the field LOL)
TheJamSessionDL 3 hours ago
1:21 again classic randy ho and to the NFL fans Dibs on him this year for the pats
2:43 FAULKY
and you rugby fans should look up "NFL front flip touchdown" it is wicked awesome
I also think this video proofs that football is extreamly high speed during the play especially at 3:23 and 3:35 that is why football players ware pads. And those are slow speed compared to some plays
TheJamSessionDL 4 hours ago
fuck man 1:16 i am a pats fan
1:08 classic randy catch
TheJamSessionDL 4 hours ago
you frigging rugby players do not celebrate like AF when you score a try. I agree there are some players that celebrate after a try, but have you rugby players ever seen a Terrell Owens or
Ochocinco highlight. Thats right there is a football player that changed his last name to his # in spanish. OCHOCINCO!!!!! Rugby players do not have enough fun after a try. Celebrate a little more
TheJamSessionDL 4 hours ago
would a american football player continue to play if his balls were ripped out and stitched up?? idk aye buck shelford (a legendary nz rugby player) got his ripped out by a player from the opposition and he told to doc stitch it up so he can keep on playing. thats pretty hardcore
mcnaughty2024 1 day ago
@mcnaughty2024 lol that's fucked up. I know NFL players that have played through broken legs and torn ACLs though. That's pretty ballsy.
FluffyTailedRat 1 day ago
@mcnaughty2024
AF players not only receive morefrequent and severe injuries than R players, they also play with more injuries:
watch?v=aGSQLpLPEJA
watch?v=cyrcJHs83dc
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It's impossible to play AF without being injured. Things like broken fingers, hands and wrists, are rarely considered reasons to miss games.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@mcnaughty2024 I know a quarter back (who is hit constantly by ppl going full speed) with a torn ACL, a person who played the game of his life in the superbowl wit a broken leg, a person with broken ribs playing quarter back, a person (still playing QB) with a horribly broken ankle needed surgery and all that shit, and I know there is more i just cannot think of it right now. And the answer is yes they would. But don ot get me wrong rugby players are tough too
TheJamSessionDL 3 hours ago
not a singal cowboy wow u are a true hater
minman567 5 days ago
@indigojac08
rugby players are probably just as big as NFL players...just look at teams like the all blacks or south Africa. Rugby is a much tougher and harder sport....why do you need pussy pads to play football...i dare any football player to step on a rugby pitch and see
ItalianLegion 1 week ago
@ItalianLegion
AF players are generally bigger than R players. The average size in the NFL is 6'4 248lb (112kg). AF players are also overall, Faster and Stronger.
Helmet and pads are worn because AF is a game of constant collission, the varience in player sizes is far greater than in Rugby, and when AF is played without equipment, people die, frequently!
bebomac5 6 days ago
@bebomac5 11 minutes of play out of 60 on average. hardly constant collision.
terrortorn 3 days ago
@terrortorn Is that really all you have? There are generally around 1200 hits in an AF game. Also AF hits are massively harder than R hits, sometimes reaching 200 G's. R hits are usually around 10-15 G's. Only someone who's not experienced AF's brutal play, and exhausting nature, would cite such an obscure, short sighted, incorrect, article.
bebomac5 3 days ago
@bebomac5 I see you know the article? Why do you discredit it? I have no doubt some Rugby Union tackles are weaker.I have no data regarding the power involved in Rugby Leagues "reaching" tackles to compare. I am not impressed by players tackling those without the ball or pushing from a 50cm run up. Its only exhausting to Americans and maybe your wide receivers untill the defense comes on and they get a rest every 5 mins. RL is demanding for every player, our kickers put in 80 mins.
terrortorn 2 days ago
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@terrortorn
"I am not impressed by players tackling those without the ball or pushing from a 50cm run up."
Not knowing the major difference between tackling and blocking is a perfect illustration of your complete lack of knowlege of the sport.
Your total ignorance of how massive the collisions at the line are, and how insanely powerful the players are, is a perfect example of someone who's never faced anything like it. You literally, have no clue!
bebomac5 2 days ago
@terrortorn As far as the article, I can confidently discredit it, because I see 100's of games per year, on all levels, and have played 100's more at very high levels. It's a bogus stat.
Fyi, since you typically, took the oppotunity to take a shot at my country, you should know that the US is the most "sporting" nation on the planet. We play, watch, and support more sports thn any other, by far! It's rare that NCAA & NFL players are not Elite in at least one other sport.
bebomac5 2 days ago
@terrortorn
There's no doubt that more running is required in R, but like most R fans, you severely underestimate AF player's endurance.
Btw, R players generally only run at absolute top speed, less than 10% of the time, if not much less. If you don't move at 100% speed, 100% of the time in AF, you "will" Fail!
Also, I never understand why it's so hard for R fans to accept the indisputable Fact that AF hits are massively harder, more dangerous, and vicious than R hits. Not close.
bebomac5 2 days ago
@bebomac5 Well you are not the most sporting nation. The insularity of your nations pastimes put paid to that. World Series of Baseball involving the US and ........err.....? I have seen no published rebuke of the NYT article, is there one? I have no doubt that the technique of AF lends itself to some spectacular hits. Massively harder, against RL, no! A large Englishman or Australian hits just as hard as an American but without pads.
terrortorn 1 day ago
@terrortorn There's literally no sport that isn't played, to some degree in the US. The US has more participants in athletics than any other nation, It has more sports leagues than any other nation, Americans spend more money playing/watching/supporting sports than any other nation, there is more sports coverage than any other nation. The USA is, by far, the worlds premier sporting nation.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@terrortorn You've seen no rebuke, because it's not worthy of our time. I now have17 24/7 all sports TV channels, the article is so far removed from reality, it didn't warent attn. from anyone.
The hits in AF are harder because it's the nature of the game, with or without equipt. No doubt that ENG and AUS athletes could hit as hard, if they played AF, but hits that big never happen in R.
Challenge: list any data you find in regards to the maximum, or even the average R hit.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@bebomac5 I don't think there is any underestimation of AF. RU and AF have a lot in common. RU is ridiculously convoluted to the point of frustration of both spectators and players and results is a raft of measures ad nauseum to combat this. But AF has taken this to a new level. A 3 hour circus presenting "potentially" 11 minutes of play. It's said Americans are the best at making the mundane seem exciting but only it seems to those who are brought up with it.
terrortorn 1 day ago
@terrortorn Interesting take, considering League has more in common with AF than Union, a fact which is echoed by most R fans.
Relatively few AF games are televised, yet most are "packed" in attendance. Regardless of whether there's a single camera, commecial, banner, etc., Americans go, because we are obsessed with "The Game"! The circus as you call it, follows the ppl, who follow the game, and would be there no matter what, regardless of the level, HS, College, Pro.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@bebomac5 AF has some unusual qualities that do not work in the UK. Your teams get up and move cities. They are not necessarily committed to geography combine this with representing major populations and you are virtually guaranteed large audiences. No larger however than for instance Association Football in the UK and definitely not football abroad and that game occasions 0-0 draws. There is literally no sport that's not played in the UK and probably all over Europe The US is not apart in that.
terrortorn 11 hours ago
@terrortorn You have huge misconceptions about American sports. Teams moving rarely happens, and often results in an expansion of teams,but when it does, it's a heart breaking event. However, the UK doesn't have hundreds of major cities that can support teams, and are willing to fight to get a team. But like I said, it's very rare, and 95% of teams have never, and will never move.
No matter what you say, the US is by far the biggest sporting nation, it's not a debate.
bebomac5 5 hours ago
@terrortorn Do you honestly thing the 78,000 ppl at this insignificant, regular season game, between bad teams, are sitting out in literally, life threatening weather (18f / 8c) for 3 hours, for entertainment, pageantry, and advertisements? Their there because they love the game, and to cheer and support the Browns, the pride of their city, the same way they have for the last 70+ years.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@bebomac5 No doubt the technique of diving head first into another players helmet (the one on his head) is a tough if somewhat basic method of imparting force. The requirement of a helmet in this is integral and so mostly not available to RL players. I don't know of any RL testing of impact it being higher than RU impact due to the legality of more forceful techniques. Maybe there is no rebuke because there is an inherent truth that is not worth the publicity in testing.
terrortorn 12 hours ago
@terrortorn You, like many R fans, have such awful knowlege of AF technique, and how much time and effort is spent in learning and practicing technique, which by the way is very different from Rugby. Someone executing R tackling technique on the FB field, will be massacred.
AF head clashes are often unavoidable, it's simply the nature of the game, with or without helmets.
Perhaps your unaware of the sports media here. they cover everything worth covering, and love controversy!
bebomac5 5 hours ago
@terrortorn sorry i meant that the SB has a boring crowd, it is the home games that have wicked awesome crowds
TheJamSessionDL 3 hours ago
@bebomac5 RL does have a lot in common with AF unfortunately this is often meant as offensive. The original comment by the Duke of Edinburgh referring to how he prefers the schoolboy code. Unfortunately many RU types need their considerable hyperbole balloon deflating with a bit of fact. If AF had gone down the RL route the nature of world sport would be very different.
terrortorn 12 hours ago
@bebomac5 Not too impressed by the Alabama practice game gaining large crowds. Alabama is a large place, large population, maybe a cheep entrance fee, maybe not a lot going on in the sporting world that weekend in Alabama. maybe there was some good barbeque in the car park? Who knows. Ive been to a Superbowl mate, Its not all its cracked up to be. The atmosphere is very different in the rest of the worlds crowds to major sporting event. Not so noisy at the SB, Not so engaging.
terrortorn 11 hours ago
@terrortorn Lol! Alabama has a fairly "Small" population: Fewer than 5 Million. Compare that to bordering States: Georgia 10 Million, Florida 19 Million. The point is, that this happens at almost every major school, (120 of them) and sub major, (there are 1000's), regardless of location, whether it's Michigan, Texas, or the corn fields of Nebraska, it doesn't matter. AF fans frequently, and routinely travel 100's if not 100's of miles to support their team, weekly.
bebomac5 5 hours ago
@terrortorn It's absolutly typical of a non AF fan to make a judgement based on the SB. The Superbowl is "light years" removed from what AF games are like. 2/3 of the crowd are not even fans of either team, and some are not even big FB fans, overly frequent commercials, 40 minute halftime, as opposed to the normal 12 minutes.
Ther is NOTHING to match the passion of AF fans. I too have been to SB's, it's a lot of fun, but nothing like 99% of AF games.
bebomac5 4 hours ago
@terrortorn It should also be noted that the relationship between AF fans and their team, is unlike any sport on Earth. AF fans play an active role in the fortunes of their team, and are an actual participant in team strategy. Knowing how to cheer, why to cheer, when to cheer, and what to say and do, is vital. You think you know about this sport, you don't. You're on the outside looking in, and should investigate more closely before commenting. Makes you look ignorant.
bebomac5 4 hours ago
@terrortorn Btw, the majority of the loudest crowds in sports history are from AF
bebomac5 4 hours ago
@terrortorn super bowl isn't as good as going to a home championship game because the crowd is more neutral. Nothing is better than going to a home AFC or NFC championship game to go to the superbowl. You got a bad taste of AF, try it again one day
TheJamSessionDL 3 hours ago
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@terrortorn
watch?v=n6cIp524XfE
This is an Alabama Crimson Tide spring "practice" game. The game was not televised, heavily marketed, or aggrandized. However, the attendance was around 80,000 people. Hmm, why do you think that is?...And oh yeah...their playing themselves.
There are hundreds of games, and turn outs such as this, around the country. You seem like you only exposure to AF is the Superbowl, in essense...you know nothing.
bebomac5 1 day ago
@ItalianLegion football players play with pads because they dont want to die. when they didnt use pads, they DID DIE. and most football players are black. just so you know.
MrMrbeastybeast 6 days ago
football hits look more vicious tahaha
the8blah 1 week ago
They are completely different and incomparable sports. One based on high intensity and powerful over a short burst with a huge amount of strategic planning between plays, the other around high fitness, continuity and reacting to the situation as it occurs. Neither is better or more manly. Rugby players, by nature of the game, are smaller so the padding is less necessary. Most rugby players would get munched in the NFL. Most Gridiron players would get run into the ground in rugby
indigojac08 1 week ago
0:53 thats what rugby's about
zamissocool 1 week ago
even with blockers football players still cant break the line
mrbolochopsuey 2 weeks ago
maybe u should watch this then
youtube.com/watch?v=rWMXvfcs3CM&feature=related
aquaMangoLMAO 2 weeks ago
I think of it as playing full on backyard football vs regular football. Backyard can fucking hurt if you get hit openly ,other than that you are fine. Real football you get blindsided alot (QB here) and that is the worst.
chezeheadman 2 weeks ago
???
Julokaibre 2 weeks ago
@MPCnicks Lame.
UHtiger 2 weeks ago
@MPCnicks Ma'a Nonu, Jonah Lomu, Henry Tuilagi, Alesana Tuilagi, Manu Tuilagi, Sonny Bill Williams, Jerry Collins, Jerome Kaino, Tony Williams, Fuifui Moimoi, Richard Kahui, Sean Obrien, Sebastian Chabal, Mose Masoe, Nasi Manu, Manu Vatuvai, Willem Alberts, Pierre Spies, Bakkies Botha, Schalk Burger.
UHtiger 2 weeks ago
@UHtiger Yawn.
MPCnicks 2 weeks ago
Rugby is the more physically demanding sport
MrScotland262 2 weeks ago
Neither game is soft or deserving of cheap shots from one eyed arrogant tools who've not played at the elite level in both codes. Different rules dictates the sport from body shape to diet, training, etc..
Julokaibre 2 weeks ago
MPCnicks, I can write a book on how many guys that would sit Earl Campbell on his ass or anyone the NFL has to offer.
Julokaibre 2 weeks ago
@Julokaibre Doubtful!
bebomac5 2 weeks ago
its funny when the rugby fans call football players pussies, because of the pads.. id like to see one of the rugby greats go head up against a prime earl campbell and try to bring him down.. the NFL elite are juacked, shredded, monsters who like to hit people hard, to call them pussys is laughable.. another insecure fan trying to get americas attention... WE DONT CARE.. Super Bowl in less than 24 hours...
MPCnicks 2 weeks ago
@MPCnicks another stupid comment from american eggball sport. anyway you're not a sport fan, you are advertisement fan.
lifesaach 2 weeks ago
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MPCnicks 2 weeks ago
@lifesaach lol i watched a rugby highlight and lost count of all the advertisements, seevral on their jerseys, painted on the field, and the wall around the field was nothing but advertisements..
MPCnicks 2 weeks ago
Search!! Top 10 - Rugby Moments
MegaGenius84 3 weeks ago
Beautifully done bro! Love the games. Played all three here in Auckland. Auckland Marist / Mount Albert / North Shore Bears-South Auckland Raiders...League/Rugby/Football...fun times. Hard hits. Good mates. :)
COCOABUTTERCHOCONZ 3 weeks ago
When the fuck did we have a rugby team? I guess that's how much America cares about rugby. Cause we don't!!! Lol
xXxDeltronxXx 4 weeks ago
@xXxDeltronxXx yeah we do. America is just so obsessed with football that we dont care about our rugby team.
DopieDope1 4 weeks ago
harder hitting in football because of pads... more physical damage because of the lack of pads. Rugby wins with physicality on a professional level but I still say go pats
zanburkey1 1 month ago
I play college rugby and there are kids on my team who play both college rugby and college football. Injuries in both sports... but they say there is way more blood in rugby because there are no pads.
zanburkey1 1 month ago
men strength vs metal-rubber-plastic strength..
these americans are faggots
lifesaach 1 month ago
@lifesaach
What the fuck did you say? Have you been hit by a professional American football player? Theres a reason you wear pads. The speed and intesity 10x more than the best of the worlds rugby players. Probably none of them could touch our best running backs.
willsmackyoudown 3 weeks ago
@lifesaach Without pads there were a number of deaths in football. Pads were only introduced to prevent deaths/crushed skulls. Being smart about playing a physical sport does not make someone a faggot. I can create a sport similar to rugby only with metal pipes and you can crush every ones bones, then I can call you a faggot for being a pussy and not using metal poles.
TheStarvingSamurai 3 weeks ago
@lifesaach more strength? football players are the biggest, strongest, and fastest athletes in the world. that is a fact
TheCrusader1994 2 weeks ago
@TheCrusader1994 That is based off of no fact whatsoever. Power lifting is a sport. MMA fighters are, pound for pound, almost 2.5x as strong. Professional runners? If you try to pull the BS of " I meant all together " I will put anyone on defense or O-line against any UFC Light-heavyweight/Heavyweight. UFC will dominate in every criteria. Furthermore, Rugby forwards. They dominate any lineman in American football. I know. I was both.
Outdoorsforum 2 weeks ago
@Outdoorsforum im talking team sports. in my opinion a sport has to have an offense and a defense. with that definition, football players are the biggest, fastest and strongest.
TheCrusader1994 2 weeks ago
well made video. Two great sports. Ive played and will continue to play both as long as my body abides.
rutgersmike 1 month ago
play american football in the summer. play rugby in the winter. now Britons and Americans can play there fair share of traditional and foreign sports
fpsj03l 1 month ago 2
NFL is ok but too much f**kin stoppages just stufs it up.. Great sport thou apart from the pussy padding RUGBY4LIFE!
1Strand88 1 month ago
@1Strand88 that is not pussy padding dude. its absolutely necessary, anyone who has played the sport knows this.
91gt306 1 month ago
after reading through half the bullshit that was said by both sides i have come to one conclusion. We Need To Stop Arguing Over These Two Amazing Sports And Gang Up On The True Pussy Sport. FUCK SOCCER A.K.A football for everybody else.
holyinator 1 month ago
@holyinator Totally agree Rugby and Football are awesome...and soccer is gay as hell haha
wonderboyran111 1 month ago
@holyinator you talk like the rugby world will gang up with shameful american eggball fans hahaha.. NEVER.. just put that pads and helmets, then maybe we can be on the same side..
lifesaach 1 month ago
Both game have there good and bad side
personally i would pick rugby over AF, my reason are.. in rugby your not playing out of a playbook, rugby games are always different as soon as the kickoff start.
Every player in rugby can be playmakers and not just afew in AF.
Every player in rugby is expected to be defenders, attackers and supporters for the full 80mins
rugby game play is more continuous through out then AF, where you run a "play".. then break and reset for attack/defense
KnightsInfinity 1 month ago 2
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People get killed playing football without helmet and pads -- 19 college players in a single year once. In 1905 the American government seriously considered banning the sport. Nothing in rugby history can compare to that. Think im lying . search it up
tinnoo8 1 month ago
finally a fair video
1FastfingersMcgee1 1 month ago
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I grew up playing tackle football on paved streets & in parks with no pads/helmets before playing in local leagues. Many NFL players do this sort of thing growing up. This was 10x the roughness of rugby. AF routinely has more piercing, blind side & harder angle of attack hits at full bore (all defensive backs sole & inherent reason for existence) than any rules rugby. Helmets/pads mandated, because people died & the U.S. government threatened to ban it otherwise. Research 1905 Pres. Roosevelt!
Jerrico71 1 month ago
Let's be honest here. American football is a game were each player is a specialist at his position. The 1st string are the very best on the team at it. Players are built for speed and built for power! I do respect rugby though they are some hard hitters in thier own rite! No disrespect but it seems like playing soccer with your hands until the touchdowns and field goals start happening.
mrmugsy1977 1 month ago
@mrmugsy1977 the trys and conversions were somthing american football stole from the concept of rugby...
TEbigRED20 1 month ago
american athletes are better in general because they play more than just one sport. in europe they only spend their time on one sport. look at tom brady. he plays in the nfl and was drafted into baseball also/ also other players played more than one sport pro
lunasboyz11 1 month ago
wow american football is for girls or should i say big girls haha
charromexicano123 2 months ago
@charromexicano123 nah bro.
ExLiteW 1 month ago
the arguing is pointless i play rugby and am a big NFL sport their both tough dangerous sport in their own way, yeh its a matter of opinion but either way their both the best sports on earth
akinrinmade00 2 months ago 2
@akinrinmade00 totally agree, played football and rugby respectively for 5 years each and both are tough and awesome in their own regards, people need to relax with this whole who is better and tougher crap, just go and play whatever one you like more
aspost99 2 months ago
RUGBY WIN
Wa5t3d5n1p3rr 2 months ago
I get the whole argument against pads, but when you have them on you think you're invincible. There is no flinching when you hit. You go full speed head first into them. It's a completely different tackle than MOST rugby tackles. This AF stly leads to brain injuries and crippling diseases later in life. Rugby players can say they're hard asses for that gash in their head, but that will heal. Football players Collegiate and up are most likely fucked up for life.
storkofcoure96 2 months ago
@storkofcoure96
I see your points. Its easy to play when you think your are invincible. Takes balls to take a creash ball and crash flesh and bone into guys much bigger than you, then get one a second later and get ready to go again. 1/3 of players on a professional rugby team can easily be injuried on a squad.Diferent sport different injuries.My buddies Tibia bone poped out of his leg a month ago. Long term injuries should not be a bragging point. Just saying.
Quinno77 2 months ago
@Quinno77 I'm just saying that as players we deal with different types of injuries so toughness isn't really a factor in which game is better.
storkofcourse 2 months ago
@Quinno77 Not bragging, just stating facts. Injuries such as limb breaks, strains, sprains, pulls, tears, etc. are quite common and similar in both sports, but serious and catastrophic injury rates are much higher in AF. It's impossible to play AF and not be injured. The fortunes of teams can often be determined by how many players they can keep upright. This occurs with "sissy" pads and only 16 games. Btw, ever seen a guys head touch his a**? watch?v=tRD2FzuxacM.
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 I see your point. It may be more dangerous in the long term. Shiort term both sports are just as bad. .Average play in AF is like 3 seconds right?Right now i have inflamed fluid in both my shoudlers,broken tow, and hairline fracture in my ankle ankle. Soo happy its the off season. (gallery.me.com/maxhaynes#104427/10-23-11-2-22&bgcolor=black)= our last game.
Quinno77 2 months ago
i wonder if there have been some crossover players to come to the nfl. it wouldn't be too difficult a transition i'd imagine
bob555555 2 months ago
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In rugby we don't sit on the bench after a turnover or score, and we can only sub off once so most players play the whole 80 minutes! we don't wear helmets, padding doesn't mean anything lol we play 80, gridiron 60, no blockers when you have the ball in rugby, goal kicking isn't right in front of the goal posts, and kickers can kick the ball from up to 60 meters (65yards). Rugby players play BOTH offense AND defense!! most payed? pfft passion for the game! thats why rugby's the best!!!!!!!! ;)
rugbyking32 2 months ago
NFL players are so much more athletic. Rugby people don't even know how freakish NFL athletes are
sconny09 2 months ago
@sconny09
Its true theya re very athletic for 3 seconds at a time. They also have very narrow skill sets. Rugby players need to do everything-catch,kick,pass run,tackle,ruck,lineout,scrum. Attacking and deffending one play after the other. Both are athletes. The american football fiedl is also much smaller. I live in USA an watch football. Differnt sport cant compare.
Quinno77 2 months ago
@Quinno77 fully agree like comparing n apple with an orange, thoe i'd admit NFL has harder hits and im a NZer
86nugget19 2 months ago
@sconny09 so true
91gt306 2 months ago
@sconny09 endurance and fitness wise rugby players are better but stength and power nfl are better.
rugbyking32 2 months ago
@sconny09 How do you compare NFL players? Can they play 80 minutes without stopping? Can they beat a player without someone blocking? Can they both defend and attack? The internet makes no sense.
wesleywt 2 months ago 2
This is the fairest sports comparison video ive ever seen
ironmaidenjp1 2 months ago
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aseroxmilez 2 months ago
I see bebomac is on this vid aswell...
aseroxmilez 2 months ago
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American football player: "Hey i know, lets try and look tough by tackling each other while wearing a motorcycle helmet, tights and enough protection to survive a nuclear bombing".
Rugby player: "No thanks, i actually have balls".
Ben19927 2 months ago
u all mad butthurt
Tulo4president 2 months ago
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ALRIGHT JUST LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT RUGBY SUCKS COCK ITS GAY TOO MANY REASONS TO SAY BUT NFL KICKS THE SHIT OUT OF NRL
legopolice11 2 months ago
So much ego about this topic. They are different sports with some similar aspects. I have played both, but primarily rugby. They both take endurance, toughness, and courage. If I had to pick which is tougher I would say it's a draw. Rugby is rough and requires physical stamina like no other. American football is not rough, it is VIOLENT and requires a unique mental toughness. I will say though that as a fan, American football is a beautiful game. I love the uniforms, they look like gladiators.
The1GenericUsername 2 months ago
Old school football helmet at 2.50!!!
irapeninjas 2 months ago
@irapeninjas thats a scrum cap you nitwit! seeing how football is the product of rugby, they copied us but added sissy pads
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president And it's almost identical to an old school AF helmet. "sissy pads"? And yet somehow the hits are harder, the injuries are more frequent, and often far more serious.
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 injuries are only severe because football players are giant vaginas which is why they need pads
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president .... Wow... What a very Ignorant statement
dlferich 2 months ago
@dlferich ignorant? no true? in every aspect
Tulo4president 2 months ago
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dlferich 2 months ago
@Tulo4president ...Shutup... a lot of the hits in rugby are not as hard as in football.... Your a lie.. you Know it.... you dont see folks in rugby... gettin tossed in the air from various angles... and hit while still in the hair.. grapped by the face and slamed... Landin on their... Your talkin garbage ...and your ignorance is showin.
dlferich 2 months ago
@Tulo4president Just because you suck at football and arent tough enough for it.... dosent make those who have talent in the sport who are good at it a pussy... Your a pussy for callin em a pussy..... and yes i know their spelling errors in my remarks.. but thats beside the point. Bottom line ..is that your a lie...
dlferich 2 months ago
@dlferich you tought me two things, 1. you cant find the correct form of YOURE, not your, its not possesive dumbass and 2. umad
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president .. LoL... Ookay... Fagget
dlferich 2 months ago
@dlferich *faggot, your spelling is a credit to todays educational sysytem. you sir are a nigger
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president .... and you sir are racist white Trash
dlferich 2 months ago
@Tulo4president Who wouldnt say that too my face... and if you did.... Id put you in the Hospital... Coward.
dlferich 2 months ago
@dlferich mad
Tulo4president 2 months ago
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dlferich 2 months ago
@Tulo4president Wow, aren't you a classy Racist. You obviously were rejected from Football, you seem a bit bitter!
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 not rejected, i never played because im not a vagina
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president You never played because your not good enough! So you must play with lesser athletes.
bebomac5 2 months ago
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@bebomac5 not rejected, i never played because im not a vagina
Tulo4president 2 months ago
@Tulo4president so you're saying that from birth people who will eventually play rugby have stronger ligaments and bones then people who will end up playing football? not at all.
holyinator 1 month ago
if you look at american high school and colleges, the best athletes play football and basketball.. so even with our olympic track team who consistatly competes with the Jamacians, our track guys aren't even our top athletes. We have WORLD Class strength SPEED STRENGTH AGILITY and SKILL in our TWO main sports.
erinivictoria 2 months ago
Football players are ALOT bigger and the agility and speed is out of the world!
erinivictoria 2 months ago
what about running a 4.2 or 4.3 or 4.4 bud.. you can train endurance. cant train speed.
erinivictoria 2 months ago
American Football Baby!
sukafreecity 2 months ago
The hardest hit of a rugby match occurs about 20 times per NFL game. What most don't realize is the sheer speed of NFL football. When the 8 picks the rugby ball up from the scrum he would be planted by a 120 kilo linebacker/defensive ned type literally 0.5 seconds after he picked up the ball. When trying to pass to a fly-back the American football corner would break on the ball, intercept it and score a try un-touched. Ruggers have no idea how quick NFL players are.
iThinkThereforeiCan 2 months ago
@iThinkThereforeiCan Bull! I played rugby for at least 7 yrs, my best 100m dash ever is 10.23s. So I guess I'm not slow even compare to the vast majority of Football players. Rugby is a lot more grueling and longer than Football, although some Football hits are tremendous, over-all Rugby is a whole more tiring and so physical. A linebacker would never last a full Rugby match. Football players are all covered by layers of protection, are you O.K.?
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga We agree: Rugby as a continuous action sport requires stamina that the NFL athlete is not trained for. My point is that at least initially what the NFL athlete IS trained for would completely overwhelm Ruggers: The NFL'ers quickness, strength and speed to the ball would simply astound Ruggers. 10.23 is mighty quick, mate, but the NFL has guys pushing 120 kilos clocking 4.5 in the 40 yard dash. Their explosiveness off the line is something Ruggers have never seen. Speed kills
iThinkThereforeiCan 2 months ago
@iThinkThereforeiCan running 4.5 in the 40 yard dash wont help in ruggers. How long do you think he will last.
kiwifruit459 2 months ago
@iThinkThereforeiCan Well, if you want to find real fast rugby players. Those who play rugby sevens are just as quick and with twice as much endurance. NFL players are spoiled with too many facilities, coaching clinics, time-offs, four quaters. I want to see an NFL player with the same explosiveness, playing under the same conditions of those rugby players of the southern hemisphere. Trust me they won't last a match, they're too spoiled.
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga couple weeks ago in the Gold Coast sevens Miles Craigwell former American Football player made a break from there try line against the aussie team. he was quick off the mark till the around the 40 got caught by a 20 yr old who ran from across the field on an angle(longer distance. obviously lol) and ended up tackling him arms wrapped and and took him off his feet and into the sideline. Rugby sevens players are the best athletes.
ignore the yanks who think 40 yrd dashes are everything.
aseroxmilez 2 months ago
@aseroxmilez As a CB, Craigwell ran a 4.6 40. There's a reason he's not in the NFL. AF players are generally faster at 100 meters as well. Every NCAA and NFL team has multiple players who are as fast are faster than any Rugby player who has ever existed!
bebomac5 2 months ago
@iThinkThereforeiCan Additionally remember Jonah Lomu at almost 130kg clocking 10.7 for the 100m and 4.2something for the 40. Chav of South Africa, in his high school rugby team at almost 17 was 10.12s! Bryan Habana of South Africa(10.25). I never sprinted the 40, so I don't know. There many New Zealanders who are quick too! I'm not saying that NFL players aren't fast, but they have it too easy. Go to South Africa and show me what you got, softies!
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga Your completely full of SH**! A 10.7 100 meter, is around a 4.4 40 yd. NCAA & NFL players are far faster than players in any Rugby code, as well as being bigger, stronger, and more agile.
The only advantage R athletes have overAF plyrs is stamina, which isn't saying much!
While R athletes do run more (in game) than AF plyrs, they still stand, walk, or jog, 80%+ of the time. Btw, what makes you think that AF plyrs don't constantly train for endurance? watch?v=2gpgFVVQSes
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 hahahahahaha 80% of the time now he is making up stats bro stop ripping stats out of your rare end. you so underestimate rugby players don't you. you really have no idea what they can do.
superbill3001 2 months ago
@superbill3001 I said 80%+! Only a handfull of plyrs are fully engaged at a time, while others stand ,walk, wait. Lets not forget lineouts, goal kicks, kicking back and forth, penalties, etc. R plyrs get plenty rest! This is typical Rugby pace and tempo: watch?v=hj0huUj1fz8 . Note the vast majority of plyrs who are not near the ball, doing Nothing but positioning and waiting. Plenty Rest! Just debunking many R fans Bullsh**! statements that R players run "nonstop" for 80 minutes!
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 Those fat linebacker have no stamina compared to any rugby players, eating hamburgers all the time. I can tell you don't know anything about running/sprinting. Some people are slower starters than others and get faster around the 60 yards line. So to predict how fast they will sprint the 100m dash is bull! NFL players have little endurance, they won't able to train on an empty stomach, would they?
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga There's no such thing as a "fat Linebacker" learn the sport! watch?v=NRF0RwiUFzg
Habana:10.4
w w w. telegraph. co. uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/southafrica/2323508/Is-Bryan-Habana-fastest-of-all-time. html
rugbytop50. blogspot. com/2011/01/fastest-rugby-players. html
w w w. atrier. com/blog/2007/10/17/bryan-habana-dont-believe-the-hype/
Lomu: 10.89
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Jonah_Lomu
w w w. squidoo. com/jonahlomu
bebomac5 2 months ago
@amasonga psst i have a secret about your anatomy...neither would rugby players m8. From the little rugby ive seen they seem pretty jacked= lots of portein=lots of meat.
holyinator 1 month ago
@holyinator Watch more rugby, before you address me.
amasonga 1 month ago
@bebomac5 What the NFL has is much more money invested in than in rugby, therefore have access to much more facilities than rugby players, better medical teams as well, clinics,etc... This is why I called them bunch of softies, you have it easy. Tell your Okarpo to sprint 6km , not run, sprint it!! Then to it the gym for 4 hours on an empty stomach, only allowed to drink milk on daily basis. Then we'll see how much weight he'll keep. You guys are a joke, spoiled brats!
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga Do you really think most AF player have access to money and facilities? watch?v=-P80QOkHjmc
It's about the work that you put in, and you obviously don't know just how hard AF plyrs work. Training and conditioning in AF is non stop, and stamina is key. You have alot to learn. AF workouts are generally 2 hrs of running and drills, 1-2 hrs of class room, 2-3 hrs of running, hitting and practice, 2hrs of lifting watch?v=syUyHjdbS48, watch?v=qDa25nZ4GvU, watch?v=2gpgFVVQSes,
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 Sorry to this day, I run faster than Brian Okarpo, not bragging I'm mighty quick, thanks to rugby. At 32, I'm still able to sprint the 100m dash under 10.4 daily, and I'm not a professional sportsman. There are people out there that very fast, but we just don't know about them.
amasonga 2 months ago
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@amasonga Don't care what you do.
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 There are plenty of AF players who don't even get the ball after several matches. Telling me that those fat linebackers run, you're kidding. If you really run, you lose weight. Linebackers with bellies touching ground are runners?
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga Let me educate you, because you obviously have Zero knowlege of AF. This is a Linebacker: watch?v=NRF0RwiUFzg , There's no such thing as a "fat" Linebacker. This is a Linemen: watch?v=4Ou6wYC2B7s , Linemen are generally, incredible athletes. Most L are 280-290lb of solid muscle, who carry "alot" of extra body weight, they are truly, "mountains". Btw, many players will never touch the ball in there lives! yet their position is as vital as any other, what's your point?
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 Educate me about fat linebackers who can't run? I've played both sports at college level thus I don't need your little excuses. I've played rugby as lock,wing,full-back,eighthman and football as a running back, fullback. Trust me some linebackers are obese!
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga show me "one" fat linebacker, for that matter, show me any player who can't run. HS, college or pro. You either have never played, or you were simply not good enough to play. AF athletes are superior, and it's not close. Your a total clown!
bebomac5 2 months ago
@amasonga cool story bro
Slotten68 1 month ago
@amasonga bro stop saying "fat linebackers" linebackers are probably some of the best athletes on the field.
holyinator 1 month ago
@holyinator Sorry best athletes last.
amasonga 1 month ago
@amasonga Lomu's ht, wt, spd, str, agility, etc. are quite common in AF, his best official 100m time "ever" was 10.8, Habana's is 10.4, check the RFU official website. There are 3-5+ players on "every" NCAA & NFL team, who are as fast or faster than Habana. Btw, Lomu played closer to 125kg. You severely underestimate AF players stamina (especially the big guys) and toughness. Softies? I'd love to see you say that to someone like Brian Orakpo's face. watch?v=fGUc3UL64f0
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 What did you say? Jonah Lomu best 100m is 10.7, and was at the age of 17 in school still! You're must be dreaming and he was already almost 125 kg, and in the 1995 world cup, I saw him in South Africa over taking 4-6 players, in 1999 cup in Wales he ran over 8 players from France. The Dallas Cowboys wanted him, but he said no! This is with no pads, get it? Brian Orakpo is nothing compare the Maori called Lomu, nothing.
amasonga 2 months ago
@amasonga Orakpo is just one of many hundreds, and picked at random. Btw, you do know Lomu is retired, don't you? Also, Lomu, like any unknown, was merely invited to a camp workout and tryout, that is all. I had that!
bebomac5 2 months ago
@bebomac5 Bryan Habana best 100m is between 10.25 or lower. I don't know where you got your data, he might have clocked 10.4 at some other events, but definitely not his fastest. There are maybe less than ten NFL players who are as fast or slightly faster than Habana today, in that I mean having 10.25s in the 100m dash! The 40 is too short of a distance to determine someone's actual speed. Habana school was not far from mine, just to let you know.
amasonga 2 months ago
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@amasonga "less than ten NFL players who are as fast or slightly faster than Habana today" Really? Darrius Heyward-Bey, Chaz Schilens, Jacoby Ford, Denarius Moore, Nick Miller, Michael Bennett, Darren McFadden, Taiwan Jones, Stanford Routt, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Chimdi Chekwa, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware, Tyvon Branch, Mike Mitchell. All of these NFL plyrs run a 10.6 or better, many run 10.3 or better, a few run 10.0, and they all play for the "same team". Care to revise your statement?
bebomac5 2 months ago
RUGBY LEAGUE HANDS DOWN!
Jaso700 3 months ago