Jake didnt even try just wanted to show that cocky prick that he could not hurt him....Did fuckhead asssshole robinson ever knock Jake down??????Answer honestly........Did Jkae ever knock his arrogant ass down?????? I think the answer is yes....Do not deny it you robinson lovers.......LAMOTTA WAS PHYSICALLY TOUGHER END OF STORY
@djk28161 I don't a shit about psychically tougher. Theses guys fought 6 times and LaMotta won once in a fairly close fight. If you've seen any of their other fights you'd know he was outclassed by Robinson completely. If you get in a fight and you stand there and let someone punch the shit out of you until you can barely walk then you lost. Simple.
Lamotta won 2 out of their 6 fights. He won the second and third fight. The third fight they gave it to Robinson because he was going in the army. But he clearly won the fight and knocked that nigger on his ass the second time in his career. He got robbed the fifth time. And Lamotta was shot by the sixth and last fight.
Lamotta won 2 out of their 6 fights. He won the second and third fight. The third fight they gave it to Robinson because he was going in the army. But he clearly won the fight and knocked that African-American on his buttocks the second time in his career. Lamotta got an unfair decision.... I can't say "robbed" because that would imply stereotypical behavior that African-Americans NEVER engage in...And Lamotta was shot the last fight. How's that?
@bigcrapper96 Call Robinson what you will but he was possibly the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time. He was a credit to the sport and a great humitarian as well. Why try to degrade him with racist slander?
In calling Jones a "joke", I am referring to the Jones of today. He was a fine fighter in his prime, but when he finally got nailed solidly, he couldn't take it. Since the Tarver fight, his career has been a train wreck. I can't think of a fighter who went from perceived brilliance to mediocrity so fast.
I have to laugh at the comparisons of Roy Jones to Robinson; there is no comparison. Robinson fought far better fighters and defeated most of them. He may have fought sloppily to the untrained eye, but unlike Jones he went all-out to win and was more dedicated to his craft. What's more, Robinson in his twilight was still competitive; Jones is a joke; at least a good deal of Ray's losses toward the end were close decisions that could have gone either way.
i dont see the greatness i feel its just me these guys are slow and so open srr is quick but nt as fast as ive heard he was he looks sloppy and open but i guess im the only one who sees this cuz everyone is on his dick bad ..mayweather looks so fast and so sharp compared to this guy and will never in a million years get hit so easily by a punch comming so slow but im the only one who sees this..ighters back then were not technical at all there maddd sloppy
@runtinsweet lol its funny but true ur gonna sit there and tell me there not open???ur gonna sit there and say that floyd would really get hit by such slow comming jabs? when he was pulling back and cunter guyd like and shane and judah who are 4x faster then lomatta...sit there and laugh but if u belive these guys are technically more sound then ur an idiot...watch closley look at how open and wild there unches are no head movment no counter punches..lomatta is so slow and yet is landing his jab
@ajp135212 True in your deluded little mind maybe. Sugar Ray had a granite chin, Mayweather's feather fist wouldn't harm him. Yes he is open at times but that's because he is so aggressive, Mayweather wouldn't stand a chance against prime SRR!
@runtinsweet srr is much not a welter weight, hes to big for floyd, but in the same weight class p4p floyd can outbox him because floyds hands are faster and hes much smarter...however on fight srr wont win is aginst a prime roy jones jr...lol rj would wash him look at this fight?? he couldnt defend aginst the slow ass punches from lamotta imagine facing jones who throws from alll angles at a speed greater then any boxer at that weight class...dont tell me srr can beat jones now
@runtinsweet roy was sharper nd his combos were quicker. u see srr flicking his jab.. u can tell its different times cuz nowadays guys like roy and floyd wuld have hit him hard with a right over that jab..roys counters were so fast along with his faints and lead rights and lefts.. roy punched from all angles and was so hard to catch cuz his head was everywhere .srr has no movment his head is an easy target for a guy like jones, he dosent counter nor defend well how could he beat jones?he cant
@ajp135212 How do u determine that his combos were quicker? You're talking shit. Roy had a poor jab and not the best defence, he beat a weight drained Toney and a pre prime Hopkins and that's about it, another overrated fighter. Don't forget they fought 15 rnds in those days so they had to pace themselves. Roy throws from all angles but Ray was the master at that!
@runtinsweet from what i have seen out of the two roys hand speed was superior to rays, roy didnt have a poor jab he just didnt need to throw it, he would throw a lead rights and hooks and faint so much he would confuse u bad...and he didnt have good defense but he was hard to hit in his prime cuz of his movement somthing srr dosent do like jones and he countered off of anything sothing srr clearly dosent do well as u can see..dont compare ths sloppy display to the sharp roy jones
why is srr so open? lol i thought he was so great....i was shocked when i saw this video because hes nothing like i had heard he was... hes quick but his face is there to get hit no head movement no defense...whats going on how is the greatest of ll time getting rocked by slow as punches...damn this guy is overrated like hell cuz i seem to be the only one who notices
@freakinricandito You'd be hardpressed to find a boxing historian who thinks Hopkins could beat Robinson. Robinson had a great boxing mind just like Hopkins, but he hit extremely hard and was as fast as RJJ. Robinson would beat him nine times out of ten. Robinson struggled against LaMotta because he never gave up the pressure and because he had one of the best chins in boxing history. Hopkins isn't a pressure fighter and it would be nearly impossible to outbox him.
@kingofthehill2130 well if he had such a gret boxing mind why are his hands down? why is he getting his so easily? why cant he adjust to such slow punches comming in? why are there so many defesive flaws..look at the fight where is the defense? where is the counter shots. guys like mayweather and roy jones in there primes would have never been his so easily especially by somone as slow as lamotta.. he doesnt look like such a smart fighter..and his hands were not faste then RJ's chill with that
actually, despite common myth, Jake beat the piss out of Ray in fight 2, should have had a draw at worst in fight 3, was robbed in fight 5 (where Ray was booed out of the ring after the decision was announced), and was narrowly outboxed in 2 and 4. It took Ray something like 85 rounds to finally, definately crack LaMotta, which he did in the 12th here.
@loyaldude10 No, Fight 1 was Robinson but was a close fight, Fight 2 LaMotta won quite easily, but weighed 16lbs more than Robinson, Fight 3 Robinson suffered a brutal knockdown and the count only reached 9 before he was "saved by the bell", Ray won by split decision, Ray was shocked. Fight 4 Robinson won with skill but the fight was close. Fight 5 Robinson Decision. Fight 6 "St. Valentine's Day Massacre", though many believe LaMotta was supposed to take a dive and simply refused to go down.
Thanks for this rare video. I really enjoyed watching it, but you seriously need to change the title. LaMotta never got knocked down and certainly never got knocked out.
@jackstein104 Actualy he was knocked down once. Against Danny Nardico. I even saw it on tape. You can probably find it on youtube. But the popular saying is Jake was never knocked down. He says this himself, I think he erased that fight from his memory. But Jake was way past his prime then, and it was in the light heavyweight divsion.
sugar ray robinson pound for pound was one of the greatest middleweights that ever lived, he had everything, good footwork, great speed, great hand combination, and was a true boxer a true pugilist... jake lamotta was very tough like rocky marciano but both were fighters and sluggers..... not great body mechanics at all......
@commando611 SRR was THE best pound for pound. Lamotta was like the little brother of Marciano. Same style, only LaMotta was less powerfull, but had an even better chin then the Rock.
I wonder about Sugar Ray. He was obviously a tremendous fighter, far and away ahead of his time, but how would he fare against more recent welterweights/middleweights? I guess what I mean is, boxing has evolved just like any sport evolves over a span of time, whether it's a few decades or a few years (cagefighting is a prime example of this notion) so my question, to all the boxing pundits is "Was Sugar Ray Robinison the greatest boxer ever or was he just great for his time?"
@bizmonkey007 fighters today are MUCH softer than what Ray had to fight. 15 rounds instead of 12. 30 sec breaks instead of 1 min. Tougher competion. No junior or super classes. The ref less likely to stop the fight after cuts and barrages. Robinson would EAT todays middleweights alive.
@POTATER1228 You make a great point. Robinson, La Motta, Johnson, Dempsey, Armstrong etc, were some of the toughest men alive. But I wonder on a technical level how Robinson and La Motta would compare to say Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler. It seems a lot of the old boxers used to be satisfied with standing and trading and clinching frequently with less emphasis on footwork, countering and ring generalship (I'm thinking of Jack Dempsey's era in particular)
When you say "sports has evolved", I presume you mean the technology aspect. Today, there is better technology which means stronger, faster, and more durable athletes PHYSICALLY. However, mentally and technically, most of today's athletes are inferior to athletes of decades past. Why? Since there wasn't advanced technology back then, those athletes had to MASTER the fundamentals and go through HELL to be of any worth. Notice that alot of techniques are 'forgotten'.
CONTINUED: Take a look at the body punch. How many boxers use the body punch EFFECTIVELY anymore? Not many. Today, boxers clinch MUCH more than olden times and wait for the ref to step in (without being tired). Also, past boxers fought MANY times a year, not this one time a year crap. Hypothetical Match...Floyd Mayweather Jr. Prime vs. Sugar Ray Robinson Prime. Who would win?
@TainoMantis Yeah, but I can't help but watch some of these old fights (Dempsey namely) and be disappointed. No doubt, these were some of the toughest men to ever compete in boxing but I just don't see the same level of refinement and ability. What d'ya mean by past boxers? Boxers 1960's and below? Julio Cesar Chavez was a vicious body puncher, Micky Ward, not the greatest boxer but a decent one, had a nasty liver punch and even recently Miguel Cotto TKO'd Euri Foremen via liver punch.
@TainoMantis As for Floyd or Robinson, that fight would never happen. Not because of the anachronistic nature of the bout but because Floyd would insist on Blood Testing to avoid fighting him.
Past boxers were from early 1990's and before. Strangely enough, before the technological revolution. LOL. Cotto is an exception as he is a throwback fighter...so is Maidana...however, as I said, not many boxers today use the body punch effectively (as in strategy). Tyson was a throwback fighter who took Dempsey's style because he was short. Duran and Chavez were vicious body punchers. I agree with Floyd not fighting someone like Robinson (or Duran, or Hearns, etc...)
Nowadays there is a boxer very seemed to sugar, that it can come do history as .. not ablo of other one that is not yuriorkis gamboa, I believe that yuriorkis has a few similar characteristics, but look at his videoes, regards
@loyaldude10 Man they fought 6 times wich only one of those La Motta won, Sugar Ray Robinson the best ever! as simple as that! but La Motta was a great fighter too, damnit what an amazing iron chin unbelievable!! i wish mine was like him XD
People have to understand the Sugar Man is the greatest. He's fighting a bigger man in Lamotta. To be able to whoop Lamotta the heavy majority of their meetings is completely unreal.
You gotta imagine, Sugar Ray Robinson was rated P4P best all time.
But anything you attribute to Robinson, makes LaMotta look better. Robinson was born with the physical gifts, LaMotta was not. Although I think they were both born with "it" when talking about boxing.
LaMotta had that toughness & a chin unmatched by any middleweight, and most boxers.
Robinson was the stronger by far the faster but it seemed like no matter how hard SRR tried it never took anything away from LaMotta's spirit.
Very true. Jake's chin was better, Jake was tougher. Robinson had a great chin too tho. I just think when LaMotta gets it his way, it's very much HIS WAY.
He'll bulldog the opponent, even SRR the entire fight. Their last 3 fights are even better than the first 3 bouts.
I can hardly find the words to describe these fights. It's just the best rivalry ever in boxing, one of the best in sports. The showing of Heart, toughness and granite chins is nothing short of amazing.
These guys were real fighters. These 2 fought 6 or so times. Imagine Floyd Mayweather jumping in the ring with Manny 6 times??. These guys had heart and were real men. There was no record consciousness here. Hat off to the guys of this era. When men were men.
Mayweather would never fight anyone six times, let alone Pacquiao...The man is a coward and fights people either smaller or older than himself. He is waiting for Shane Mosley to die before he challenges him. He is the same type of fighter than Joe Calzaghe is. A cherry picker.
Mosley beats Mayweather KO Round 8 or 9 or UD if Mayweather brings his bike to the ring so he can start pedaling away.
but this was an awesome boxing era :) 8 weight classes... no junior or super weight classes.
Respond to this video... LOVE JAKE ! HE NEVER RAN AFTER YOUR ASS HE JUST STALKED YOU! OH BY THE WA CHANGE YA HEADING! WHERE IS HE KNOCKED OUT WHERE PAL!
Its called dancing KID... Boxing aint your sport you should stick too that bum shit UFC if you wanna see knockouts because them boys aint Got Chins or Heart, stop Critizing our sport!
@Ives1989 Actually, he was a better boxer than you think. He slipped punches really well and his footwork was decent. There is a skill/method to being a brawler. Also, fighting in the same ring against Robinson would make ANYONE appear to have no skill.
6 fights between these two...that would never happen today..that's one reason this series in one of the greatest rivalries between two boxers in boxing histroy
la motta was a very self destructive person, to the extent that he had a deep self hatred. some say thats why his favoured stance was sticking his head out so far, luring his opponent to jab him as he had no fear of hurting himself.
if ever this was an example of natural progreesion this is !! there is no way sugar ray robinson could have beat the likes of leonard and hagler in the 80,s !! i have all the respect for robinson for what he has acheived !! i only have to look at this fight to know !! natural progression in sport and this is proof !! lamotta flat footed crude defence would have been stopped by hagler easily. sorry it offendes but its true !
dude even leonard said that there was absolutely no comparison between him and robinson. muhammad ali even admitted that robinson was better saying that he was, "the king, the master, my idol"
when you come a generation or 2 after your hero your idol you say this because its instilled in you no matter if your as good as not ! simple as that !!when you come along at the same time its different its competitive and you want to prove your the best ! what your saying here happens in all sport whether its boxing,football, athletics, golf even tiger woodas says jack nicklaus was better than him !! we both know thats not the case buts he's tigers idol so its respect !!
Lol what are you talking about? LaMotta had the best chin in the history of boxing. Robinson is considered by many to be one of, if not the hardest puncher p4p in history. There is no way Hagler could have knocked LaMotta out, because Robinson hit harder than Hagler. Go watch some of his fights, he has some of the most devastating knockouts I have ever seen. He even killed a man boxing.
of course theres natural progression,in all sports take the 1970s liverpool team and put them against man united today united would win 6,7-0..nowadays you ggot sports scientists!! nutritionist !! its comman sense.....it annoys the hell out of me when people compare fighters from different eras youll never know its just opinions
"You never got me down ray"...LOL!!! LAMOTTA NEVER SAID THIS! In REAL life after the fight was stopped, Jake MEEKLY goes back to his corner (with the referees aid) and plops down on his stool. That "you never got me down" line came from the "raging bull" movie...come out of fantasy land, dude...
He never fucking said that dumb ass. You're a fucking moron for posting that and think because of some bull shit Jewish fuck movie made in Hollywood that actually happened.
LaMotta sat down on a stool after the fight so he would never have been knocked down. He never walked up to Robinson and said that. Lamotta was way to fucked up at the end of this fight to do that. He even said he didn't do it himself after the movie was made. i hate faggots who get shit wrong. Burn in hell
He never did. Sugar never ever got ko'd. He only once stopped before the final beel coz the ring lights were too hot and he was dehydrated and had to stop- even the ref was changed midway thru the fight coz of the heat. he was fighting Joey Maxim at lightheavyweight and was leading on the cards at the time.
I don't no where you found that at. The only time that Ray failed to finish a fight was the light heavyweight fight with Joey Maxim. Jake knocked Ray down in their second fight in 1943 in the eighth round and one a ten round decision. Ray then beat him in the rematch three weeks later. Then Ray beat him on three more occasions on decision this fight being there last.
He never did. He beat him on a decision in 1943. He knocked Ray through the ropes but Ray managed to get back to his feet. You are not going to find it because most of Rays welterweight fights were not filmed. The few that are on camera are very rare and most likely filmed by a spectator in the audience. If it was most likely not one that was caught on film.
That was the fight against Billy Fox. He took a fall in the fourth round so that he could get a shot at the title. This fight is when Sugar Ray Robinson took the middleweight title from him.
So was Ray and how!!Ther best ever lb for lb. 202 wins 175 kos. Just a beautiful boxer puncher and of course many say the best ever to climb through the ropes. No none can say LaMotta wasn't tough. Tough as they come.
you stupid fuck hamza!! There is no one who could take a beating like Lamotta, would be funny to see you take just one puch from sugar Ray U GAYLORD COCKSUCKER. Lamotta is like a fucking mountain, The man who never went down.
Right you are. Ray Robinson was great. But if Jake had been a couple years younger it might have changed a lot of things. That is my opinion of course but this was towards the end of his boxing career. The most amazing thing that we see is how hard as nails he was. Truly sad and amazing. Sweet.
The Amazing SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, wow RAY is the greatest, the handspeed, the footwork, head and body movement, boxing mentality, simply a beatiful boxer to watch. R.I.P. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
Man,what a fight, it's sad that boxing is not like this anymore, too much money and hype and they have lost the true masters of the ring, eg, robinson, louis, la motta, ali. Plus noone around today is tough like jake la motta, he could get hit with heaps of shots and never fall or move back.
Alright. I know my user name is stupid. I'm sorry. But RAGING BULL is one of my very favorite films. I have also read the book as it contains what really happened. Jake was stubborn and hard as a rock. I love him. This fight clearly shows that Jake la motta NEVER WENT DOWN. Its amazing and sad at the same time. I have spent years trying to see this fight. Thank you for bringing it to you tube. The most incredible story is Jake's. Long live the champ!
yeah bro he was one tough motherfucker but he got murdered in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre which was also against Sugar Ray never got knocked down(of course not) but took such a bad beating the ref had to stop it. which goes to show how awesome Sugar Ray was and how fucking tough Lamotta was
where's the k.O. ???
jembozzo 3 weeks ago
title of video makes no sense
ghostryder94 1 month ago
Well lets be honest has anyone one made a film about SRR NOPE!!
Proberly the best actor in the world for the last 40 years made one about the raging bull AND one an award for it!
So apart from LA MATTA being a great boxer he also made entertainment so the Raging bull wins hands down.
Sugar Ray BORING!!!!!!
54321ohyeah 1 month ago
Still never got him down
jmj540 2 months ago
jacks head is huge!
mastermultitasker 2 months ago
"ya never got me down ray....ya never got me down!"
whatsgoingon07 4 months ago
Where is the fight were Lamotta wins ?? Its not posted ???
Atomicflash500 4 months ago
@Atomicflash500
it was their first fight and i don't believe footage exists
Robstailey 3 months ago
@Atomicflash500 i dont think it was recorded
noszondi 3 days ago
Jake didnt even try just wanted to show that cocky prick that he could not hurt him....Did fuckhead asssshole robinson ever knock Jake down??????Answer honestly........Did Jkae ever knock his arrogant ass down?????? I think the answer is yes....Do not deny it you robinson lovers.......LAMOTTA WAS PHYSICALLY TOUGHER END OF STORY
djk28161 4 months ago
@djk28161 Lamotta was a dipshit masochist who ruined every relationship he had. Ray won in the long run.
steveconn 4 months ago
@djk28161 I don't a shit about psychically tougher. Theses guys fought 6 times and LaMotta won once in a fairly close fight. If you've seen any of their other fights you'd know he was outclassed by Robinson completely. If you get in a fight and you stand there and let someone punch the shit out of you until you can barely walk then you lost. Simple.
spxeli 4 months ago 4
@djk28161 and robinson was overall better lol
banofee999 2 months ago
Those who know their REAL boxing history know Ray Robinson was the greatest pound for pound boxer to ever step into the ring
jsabado 6 months ago
MR ROBINSON IS DA 1
callumbrowns 6 months ago
idk how jake isnt mentally retarded as an old man EVERY PUNCH he took was a haymaker
thefury187 6 months ago
SRR had a record of 120-1-2 going into this fight... I doubt we'll see anything like that ever again
HarryTheTalkingDude 6 months ago
I love the fact, the Commentator doesn't feel the need to fill every damn moment with babble
lastchip 6 months ago 11
Does Jake have Parkinson's???
BgKnoccoutGangstaDre 6 months ago
@BgKnoccoutGangstaDre nah thats ali
theojs89 6 months ago
LaMotta has a huge head
EDPeezy 7 months ago
Lamotta won 2 out of their 6 fights. He won the second and third fight. The third fight they gave it to Robinson because he was going in the army. But he clearly won the fight and knocked that nigger on his ass the second time in his career. He got robbed the fifth time. And Lamotta was shot by the sixth and last fight.
bigcrapper96 7 months ago
@bigcrapper96 Don't ruin a valid point with the use of the word "nigger". It just makes people lose total respect for what you are trying to say...
FoxyBomb 7 months ago
@FoxyBomb
Lamotta won 2 out of their 6 fights. He won the second and third fight. The third fight they gave it to Robinson because he was going in the army. But he clearly won the fight and knocked that African-American on his buttocks the second time in his career. Lamotta got an unfair decision.... I can't say "robbed" because that would imply stereotypical behavior that African-Americans NEVER engage in...And Lamotta was shot the last fight. How's that?
bigcrapper96 7 months ago
@bigcrapper96 I have more respect for you point now, and so will others! Learn from this!
FoxyBomb 7 months ago
@bigcrapper96 Call Robinson what you will but he was possibly the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time. He was a credit to the sport and a great humitarian as well. Why try to degrade him with racist slander?
andrewr62 6 months ago
@ 6:52, it looks as if Sugar Ray is using Matrix speed...
ChitWhitly 7 months ago
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ChitWhitly 7 months ago
In calling Jones a "joke", I am referring to the Jones of today. He was a fine fighter in his prime, but when he finally got nailed solidly, he couldn't take it. Since the Tarver fight, his career has been a train wreck. I can't think of a fighter who went from perceived brilliance to mediocrity so fast.
vidnut67 7 months ago
I have to laugh at the comparisons of Roy Jones to Robinson; there is no comparison. Robinson fought far better fighters and defeated most of them. He may have fought sloppily to the untrained eye, but unlike Jones he went all-out to win and was more dedicated to his craft. What's more, Robinson in his twilight was still competitive; Jones is a joke; at least a good deal of Ray's losses toward the end were close decisions that could have gone either way.
vidnut67 7 months ago
Wow...Boxing was much slower anf much less "defensive" back in the day.
jules4456 8 months ago
@POTHPuokie roy would beat him
ajp135212 9 months ago
Roy jones would school this man...roy jones is the greatest of alltime
ajp135212 9 months ago
2:17 DAMN that sounded llike Roger Federer slamming a 100 mph serve
UngratefulLiving420 10 months ago
LaMotta never went down because he was saved by the referee.
zulubro 10 months ago
Head like a fucking cement block!!
indzone12 10 months ago
TOUGH BASTARD, lol.
Lynsey38025Part2 11 months ago
Jake Lamotta is still alive at 89. He must be a tough old bird.
inbredagogo 11 months ago
the title of this vid is false....i never went down, ray!
baselkicker 11 months ago
title of the vid is false...
baselkicker 11 months ago
i dont see the greatness i feel its just me these guys are slow and so open srr is quick but nt as fast as ive heard he was he looks sloppy and open but i guess im the only one who sees this cuz everyone is on his dick bad ..mayweather looks so fast and so sharp compared to this guy and will never in a million years get hit so easily by a punch comming so slow but im the only one who sees this..ighters back then were not technical at all there maddd sloppy
ajp135212 1 year ago
@ajp135212 HAHAHAHAHAHHA funniest comment ever seen on Youtube, well done.
runtinsweet 9 months ago
@runtinsweet lol its funny but true ur gonna sit there and tell me there not open???ur gonna sit there and say that floyd would really get hit by such slow comming jabs? when he was pulling back and cunter guyd like and shane and judah who are 4x faster then lomatta...sit there and laugh but if u belive these guys are technically more sound then ur an idiot...watch closley look at how open and wild there unches are no head movment no counter punches..lomatta is so slow and yet is landing his jab
ajp135212 9 months ago
@ajp135212 True in your deluded little mind maybe. Sugar Ray had a granite chin, Mayweather's feather fist wouldn't harm him. Yes he is open at times but that's because he is so aggressive, Mayweather wouldn't stand a chance against prime SRR!
runtinsweet 9 months ago
@runtinsweet srr is much not a welter weight, hes to big for floyd, but in the same weight class p4p floyd can outbox him because floyds hands are faster and hes much smarter...however on fight srr wont win is aginst a prime roy jones jr...lol rj would wash him look at this fight?? he couldnt defend aginst the slow ass punches from lamotta imagine facing jones who throws from alll angles at a speed greater then any boxer at that weight class...dont tell me srr can beat jones now
ajp135212 9 months ago
@ajp135212 Ray had a better chin, more power and better combinations, only one winner.
runtinsweet 9 months ago
@runtinsweet roy was sharper nd his combos were quicker. u see srr flicking his jab.. u can tell its different times cuz nowadays guys like roy and floyd wuld have hit him hard with a right over that jab..roys counters were so fast along with his faints and lead rights and lefts.. roy punched from all angles and was so hard to catch cuz his head was everywhere .srr has no movment his head is an easy target for a guy like jones, he dosent counter nor defend well how could he beat jones?he cant
ajp135212 9 months ago
@ajp135212 How do u determine that his combos were quicker? You're talking shit. Roy had a poor jab and not the best defence, he beat a weight drained Toney and a pre prime Hopkins and that's about it, another overrated fighter. Don't forget they fought 15 rnds in those days so they had to pace themselves. Roy throws from all angles but Ray was the master at that!
runtinsweet 9 months ago
@runtinsweet from what i have seen out of the two roys hand speed was superior to rays, roy didnt have a poor jab he just didnt need to throw it, he would throw a lead rights and hooks and faint so much he would confuse u bad...and he didnt have good defense but he was hard to hit in his prime cuz of his movement somthing srr dosent do like jones and he countered off of anything sothing srr clearly dosent do well as u can see..dont compare ths sloppy display to the sharp roy jones
ajp135212 9 months ago
why is srr so open? lol i thought he was so great....i was shocked when i saw this video because hes nothing like i had heard he was... hes quick but his face is there to get hit no head movement no defense...whats going on how is the greatest of ll time getting rocked by slow as punches...damn this guy is overrated like hell cuz i seem to be the only one who notices
ajp135212 9 months ago
punishment and boxing lesson for Jack.
bruce68 1 year ago
At 5' Jack is already out....dead. he moves slowly... Terrific Ray !!
bruce68 1 year ago
these guys fought ea other 6 times?? Talk about rivals!
loyaldude10 1 year ago
No KO here. Thanks for wast my time.
Woolkan 1 year ago
damn...i could go 4 some PBR right now...lol
biloretard 1 year ago
Hopkins at his prime vs Robinson. WHo wins? From the film here I think hopkins would out work him and use his ring smarts to beat Robinson.
freakinricandito 1 year ago
@freakinricandito You'd be hardpressed to find a boxing historian who thinks Hopkins could beat Robinson. Robinson had a great boxing mind just like Hopkins, but he hit extremely hard and was as fast as RJJ. Robinson would beat him nine times out of ten. Robinson struggled against LaMotta because he never gave up the pressure and because he had one of the best chins in boxing history. Hopkins isn't a pressure fighter and it would be nearly impossible to outbox him.
kingofthehill2130 1 year ago
@kingofthehill2130 well if he had such a gret boxing mind why are his hands down? why is he getting his so easily? why cant he adjust to such slow punches comming in? why are there so many defesive flaws..look at the fight where is the defense? where is the counter shots. guys like mayweather and roy jones in there primes would have never been his so easily especially by somone as slow as lamotta.. he doesnt look like such a smart fighter..and his hands were not faste then RJ's chill with that
ajp135212 9 months ago
actually, despite common myth, Jake beat the piss out of Ray in fight 2, should have had a draw at worst in fight 3, was robbed in fight 5 (where Ray was booed out of the ring after the decision was announced), and was narrowly outboxed in 2 and 4. It took Ray something like 85 rounds to finally, definately crack LaMotta, which he did in the 12th here.
jamiesjewels1 1 year ago
@jamiesjewels1 ---so jake won the first fight?
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 No, Fight 1 was Robinson but was a close fight, Fight 2 LaMotta won quite easily, but weighed 16lbs more than Robinson, Fight 3 Robinson suffered a brutal knockdown and the count only reached 9 before he was "saved by the bell", Ray won by split decision, Ray was shocked. Fight 4 Robinson won with skill but the fight was close. Fight 5 Robinson Decision. Fight 6 "St. Valentine's Day Massacre", though many believe LaMotta was supposed to take a dive and simply refused to go down.
Johnnyblazedanketch 11 months ago
@Johnnyblazedanketch yeah i honestly think Lamotta was better
Snako85 9 months ago
hey lamotta's got a sneaky very fast right hand of his own.i think he ko'd about 80 fighters,more than 120 wins.
dempsey981 1 year ago
bout 9:15,ray on ropes,dont look like he's doing much in there does he?best place 2 get him and keep him,rather than following him all ove the ring
finetubs 1 year ago
there's no knockout in this video.
Pokerislife7 1 year ago
why would he be "very nervours& tense" before his i dont know 1,000 fight picular??
brachieboo 1 year ago
Check out Philadelphia K.O Boxer ( Anthony Abbruzzese )
MrSouthphillyitalian 1 year ago
Thanks for this rare video. I really enjoyed watching it, but you seriously need to change the title. LaMotta never got knocked down and certainly never got knocked out.
UncleFooFoo68 1 year ago
BULLSHIT!! jake lamotta never got knocked out, or knocked down for that matter
jackstein104 1 year ago
@jackstein104 Actualy he was knocked down once. Against Danny Nardico. I even saw it on tape. You can probably find it on youtube. But the popular saying is Jake was never knocked down. He says this himself, I think he erased that fight from his memory. But Jake was way past his prime then, and it was in the light heavyweight divsion.
bcibibcibcpCB 1 year ago
sugar ray robinson pound for pound was one of the greatest middleweights that ever lived, he had everything, good footwork, great speed, great hand combination, and was a true boxer a true pugilist... jake lamotta was very tough like rocky marciano but both were fighters and sluggers..... not great body mechanics at all......
commando611 1 year ago
@commando611 SRR was THE best pound for pound. Lamotta was like the little brother of Marciano. Same style, only LaMotta was less powerfull, but had an even better chin then the Rock.
bcibibcibcpCB 1 year ago
can anyone tell me where i can find their second fight? I find it ironic that the first fight Robinson had lost is the only one I can't find...
rockmeistro 1 year ago
You never got me down ray
xxmcneilxx 1 year ago
I wonder about Sugar Ray. He was obviously a tremendous fighter, far and away ahead of his time, but how would he fare against more recent welterweights/middleweights? I guess what I mean is, boxing has evolved just like any sport evolves over a span of time, whether it's a few decades or a few years (cagefighting is a prime example of this notion) so my question, to all the boxing pundits is "Was Sugar Ray Robinison the greatest boxer ever or was he just great for his time?"
bizmonkey007 1 year ago
@bizmonkey007 fighters today are MUCH softer than what Ray had to fight. 15 rounds instead of 12. 30 sec breaks instead of 1 min. Tougher competion. No junior or super classes. The ref less likely to stop the fight after cuts and barrages. Robinson would EAT todays middleweights alive.
POTATER1228 1 year ago 2
@POTATER1228 You make a great point. Robinson, La Motta, Johnson, Dempsey, Armstrong etc, were some of the toughest men alive. But I wonder on a technical level how Robinson and La Motta would compare to say Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler. It seems a lot of the old boxers used to be satisfied with standing and trading and clinching frequently with less emphasis on footwork, countering and ring generalship (I'm thinking of Jack Dempsey's era in particular)
bizmonkey007 1 year ago
@bizmonkey007
When you say "sports has evolved", I presume you mean the technology aspect. Today, there is better technology which means stronger, faster, and more durable athletes PHYSICALLY. However, mentally and technically, most of today's athletes are inferior to athletes of decades past. Why? Since there wasn't advanced technology back then, those athletes had to MASTER the fundamentals and go through HELL to be of any worth. Notice that alot of techniques are 'forgotten'.
TainoMantis 1 year ago
@bizmonkey007
CONTINUED: Take a look at the body punch. How many boxers use the body punch EFFECTIVELY anymore? Not many. Today, boxers clinch MUCH more than olden times and wait for the ref to step in (without being tired). Also, past boxers fought MANY times a year, not this one time a year crap. Hypothetical Match...Floyd Mayweather Jr. Prime vs. Sugar Ray Robinson Prime. Who would win?
TainoMantis 1 year ago
@TainoMantis Yeah, but I can't help but watch some of these old fights (Dempsey namely) and be disappointed. No doubt, these were some of the toughest men to ever compete in boxing but I just don't see the same level of refinement and ability. What d'ya mean by past boxers? Boxers 1960's and below? Julio Cesar Chavez was a vicious body puncher, Micky Ward, not the greatest boxer but a decent one, had a nasty liver punch and even recently Miguel Cotto TKO'd Euri Foremen via liver punch.
bizmonkey007 1 year ago
@TainoMantis As for Floyd or Robinson, that fight would never happen. Not because of the anachronistic nature of the bout but because Floyd would insist on Blood Testing to avoid fighting him.
bizmonkey007 1 year ago
@bizmonkey007
Past boxers were from early 1990's and before. Strangely enough, before the technological revolution. LOL. Cotto is an exception as he is a throwback fighter...so is Maidana...however, as I said, not many boxers today use the body punch effectively (as in strategy). Tyson was a throwback fighter who took Dempsey's style because he was short. Duran and Chavez were vicious body punchers. I agree with Floyd not fighting someone like Robinson (or Duran, or Hearns, etc...)
TainoMantis 1 year ago
That's not a knock out.
jwgarrett7 1 year ago
@jwgarrett7 TKO mate
LPFAN1777 1 year ago
Nowadays there is a boxer very seemed to sugar, that it can come do history as .. not ablo of other one that is not yuriorkis gamboa, I believe that yuriorkis has a few similar characteristics, but look at his videoes, regards
ALCORCONBOY 1 year ago
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stlucianrasta92 1 year ago
What great fighters with such contrasting styles. How many times did they fight each other? I think Jake won 1st and Ray won next 2, 1 by TKO?
loyaldude10 1 year ago
@loyaldude10 Man they fought 6 times wich only one of those La Motta won, Sugar Ray Robinson the best ever! as simple as that! but La Motta was a great fighter too, damnit what an amazing iron chin unbelievable!! i wish mine was like him XD
hennessey40 1 year ago
9:26, Mayweather stlye 'shoulder roll' defense??
jonnyf92 1 year ago
@jonnyf92 it's called philly shell
nomoreheroes567 1 year ago
If Jake never had to make the weight he would have gone the distance easily and WON!
oncall21 1 year ago
"Some of those short shots would rock a truck, but they don't seem to shake La Motta"
What great commentary
trousercough 1 year ago 30
People have to understand the Sugar Man is the greatest. He's fighting a bigger man in Lamotta. To be able to whoop Lamotta the heavy majority of their meetings is completely unreal.
AriusDion 1 year ago
You gotta imagine, Sugar Ray Robinson was rated P4P best all time.
But anything you attribute to Robinson, makes LaMotta look better. Robinson was born with the physical gifts, LaMotta was not. Although I think they were both born with "it" when talking about boxing.
LaMotta had that toughness & a chin unmatched by any middleweight, and most boxers.
Robinson was the stronger by far the faster but it seemed like no matter how hard SRR tried it never took anything away from LaMotta's spirit.
tftmc 1 year ago
@tttyyy757
Very true. Jake's chin was better, Jake was tougher. Robinson had a great chin too tho. I just think when LaMotta gets it his way, it's very much HIS WAY.
He'll bulldog the opponent, even SRR the entire fight. Their last 3 fights are even better than the first 3 bouts.
I can hardly find the words to describe these fights. It's just the best rivalry ever in boxing, one of the best in sports. The showing of Heart, toughness and granite chins is nothing short of amazing.
tftmc 1 year ago
robinson never knock out la motta, fucking retard!!! it was tko not ko!!! la motta had the best chin ever!!
consta4891 2 years ago
When these two fight, it almost looks like what a Ali vs. Marciano match might look like. Very similiar styles and attributes.
Maryjaneslave 2 years ago
how is he runnin away he just keeps walking into him fighting
kranked1 2 years ago
These guys were real fighters. These 2 fought 6 or so times. Imagine Floyd Mayweather jumping in the ring with Manny 6 times??. These guys had heart and were real men. There was no record consciousness here. Hat off to the guys of this era. When men were men.
iceborn999 2 years ago 16
definition of a man now is money.
ravejutsu 2 years ago
Mayweather would never fight anyone six times, let alone Pacquiao...The man is a coward and fights people either smaller or older than himself. He is waiting for Shane Mosley to die before he challenges him. He is the same type of fighter than Joe Calzaghe is. A cherry picker.
Mosley beats Mayweather KO Round 8 or 9 or UD if Mayweather brings his bike to the ring so he can start pedaling away.
but this was an awesome boxing era :) 8 weight classes... no junior or super weight classes.
RudyfulDeBeautiful 1 year ago
@iceborn999 TRUE SO TRUE! BOXERS TODAY ARE STRAIGHT GARBAGE AND SHOW OFFS!
MRKILLYOURSELF2 7 months ago
Respond to this video... LOVE JAKE ! HE NEVER RAN AFTER YOUR ASS HE JUST STALKED YOU! OH BY THE WA CHANGE YA HEADING! WHERE IS HE KNOCKED OUT WHERE PAL!
MRKILLYOURSELF2 7 months ago
jake always in the centre and ray always running away
skyjuke2006 2 years ago
Its called dancing KID... Boxing aint your sport you should stick too that bum shit UFC if you wanna see knockouts because them boys aint Got Chins or Heart, stop Critizing our sport!
BoomFLIGHT23 2 years ago
don't be angry with me, it's only what you can witness in this video! I know that ray sugar robinson was excellent, supreme!
skyjuke2006 2 years ago
he retreats, it slows the pace of the fight. if jake had his way itd be from 0 to brawl from the bell at 1. his chin allowed him to do it too.
ravejutsu 2 years ago
jakes a shit boxer to watch really
but with an iron jaw never knocked down and only suffering about 13 losses in 90odd fights is very good achievement
Ives1989 2 years ago
@Ives1989 Actually, he was a better boxer than you think. He slipped punches really well and his footwork was decent. There is a skill/method to being a brawler. Also, fighting in the same ring against Robinson would make ANYONE appear to have no skill.
lemonite1 2 years ago
What were the sins of LaMotta that he would throw fights?Wife abuser,drugs what???????
dal4018 2 years ago
Later in his career he was dropped.
ExplosiveThinMan 2 years ago
oops yh i agree with u 100% leighjohnharvey
hearns00001 2 years ago
6 fights between these two...that would never happen today..that's one reason this series in one of the greatest rivalries between two boxers in boxing histroy
sonwamac 2 years ago
lamotta let himself get beat up in some fights to punish himself for his sins! he never in is boxing career got knocked down though
hearns00001 2 years ago
yes he did get knocked down by nardico 1951!! one of the best chins of all time thou
leighjohnharvey 2 years ago
Nardico almost knocked him out of the ring
Yackinthebox187 2 years ago
la motta was a very self destructive person, to the extent that he had a deep self hatred. some say thats why his favoured stance was sticking his head out so far, luring his opponent to jab him as he had no fear of hurting himself.
mrharoldb 2 years ago
i actually heard someone say "wow, they really oughta make a movie about his life"
UnicornHead 2 years ago
I love how Robinson would target his left jab to Lamottas left eye seems very efective.
SlickSputta 2 years ago
if ever this was an example of natural progreesion this is !! there is no way sugar ray robinson could have beat the likes of leonard and hagler in the 80,s !! i have all the respect for robinson for what he has acheived !! i only have to look at this fight to know !! natural progression in sport and this is proof !! lamotta flat footed crude defence would have been stopped by hagler easily. sorry it offendes but its true !
sweetassugar69 2 years ago
dude even leonard said that there was absolutely no comparison between him and robinson. muhammad ali even admitted that robinson was better saying that he was, "the king, the master, my idol"
PapaMagnum 2 years ago
when you come a generation or 2 after your hero your idol you say this because its instilled in you no matter if your as good as not ! simple as that !!when you come along at the same time its different its competitive and you want to prove your the best ! what your saying here happens in all sport whether its boxing,football, athletics, golf even tiger woodas says jack nicklaus was better than him !! we both know thats not the case buts he's tigers idol so its respect !!
sweetassugar69 2 years ago
As opposed to refined modern defensive geniuses like Ricky Hatton and Arturo Gatti?
FlaviusConstantius 2 years ago
@FlaviusConstantius ricky hatton? .. nahhh
miamiheatfan29 2 years ago
Lol what are you talking about? LaMotta had the best chin in the history of boxing. Robinson is considered by many to be one of, if not the hardest puncher p4p in history. There is no way Hagler could have knocked LaMotta out, because Robinson hit harder than Hagler. Go watch some of his fights, he has some of the most devastating knockouts I have ever seen. He even killed a man boxing.
trehansen 2 years ago
of course theres natural progression,in all sports take the 1970s liverpool team and put them against man united today united would win 6,7-0..nowadays you ggot sports scientists!! nutritionist !! its comman sense.....it annoys the hell out of me when people compare fighters from different eras youll never know its just opinions
leighjohnharvey 2 years ago
you never got me down ray...
you never got me down.
davidgggggggg 2 years ago 39
"You never got me down ray"...LOL!!! LAMOTTA NEVER SAID THIS! In REAL life after the fight was stopped, Jake MEEKLY goes back to his corner (with the referees aid) and plops down on his stool. That "you never got me down" line came from the "raging bull" movie...come out of fantasy land, dude...
ZION82able 2 years ago
@davidgggggggg
to legends shown here for to diferent reasons
lindarmusic 1 year ago
@davidgggggggg that is a good line for a good laugh
Qu33nZyunGvET718 1 year ago
@davidgggggggg that is a good line for a good laugh.....
Qu33nZyunGvET718 1 year ago
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@davidgggggggg
He never fucking said that dumb ass. You're a fucking moron for posting that and think because of some bull shit Jewish fuck movie made in Hollywood that actually happened.
LaMotta sat down on a stool after the fight so he would never have been knocked down. He never walked up to Robinson and said that. Lamotta was way to fucked up at the end of this fight to do that. He even said he didn't do it himself after the movie was made. i hate faggots who get shit wrong. Burn in hell
sciowapker 1 year ago
What a fucking scrap!
aoxomoxoa88 2 years ago
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bobalazs 2 years ago
he never did go down, you blind f***er
Tricky87dk 2 years ago 2
excellent fight but ive gotta say that jake wasnt in is maximum, even this was the worst shape he was and he still rocked it!
the both great but Jake LaMotta all dayy!!
IsaacRnR 2 years ago
My mistake. Part I of the VI fight. TKO not KO though
IronTapeProductions 2 years ago
This is the VI fight not I one.
IronTapeProductions 2 years ago
Did you see those shots that Lamotta landed at 9:17 - 9:30?! What a chin on Robinson, great fight
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago
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bobalazs 2 years ago
At what point does Jake LaMotta get knocked off his feet in this video, bobalazs? I don't see obvious proof "here" at all.
NidisListenstoShit 2 years ago 3
epic stuff. this is the st valentines day massacre right ?
sandcastlejim 2 years ago
FFFUUUUUKCKKCKKCK i cant find the video where lamotta knocks out robinson. aaaahhhhhhh im getting frustrated!!!!!!
KingZig86 2 years ago
He never did. Sugar never ever got ko'd. He only once stopped before the final beel coz the ring lights were too hot and he was dehydrated and had to stop- even the ref was changed midway thru the fight coz of the heat. he was fighting Joey Maxim at lightheavyweight and was leading on the cards at the time.
thejazzguitarist 2 years ago
he did. he knocked out him out in the first round look it up
KingZig86 2 years ago
I don't no where you found that at. The only time that Ray failed to finish a fight was the light heavyweight fight with Joey Maxim. Jake knocked Ray down in their second fight in 1943 in the eighth round and one a ten round decision. Ray then beat him in the rematch three weeks later. Then Ray beat him on three more occasions on decision this fight being there last.
JcLeopard 2 years ago
he didn't mate, he beat him by decision in their second fight and put ray down if that's what you mean but he never knocked him out
ThimplyTheBestht 2 years ago
He never did. He beat him on a decision in 1943. He knocked Ray through the ropes but Ray managed to get back to his feet. You are not going to find it because most of Rays welterweight fights were not filmed. The few that are on camera are very rare and most likely filmed by a spectator in the audience. If it was most likely not one that was caught on film.
JcLeopard 2 years ago
jake has a tough fucking chin. sugar is hit him hard and he isnt even flinchin
transplant138 2 years ago 2
in the movie they said jake took a fall in this fight
theladysmanbby 2 years ago
That was the fight against Billy Fox. He took a fall in the fourth round so that he could get a shot at the title. This fight is when Sugar Ray Robinson took the middleweight title from him.
JcLeopard 2 years ago
oo alright i guess the movie just didnt have theiir facts straight like always lol thanks for the info man
theladysmanbby 2 years ago
this isnt a fucking knock down wtf
robbanbobban 2 years ago
la motta was one tough motherfucker, and ray's speed is incredible
infinitytru 2 years ago 3
two giants of the past
skyjuke2006 2 years ago
..uh..no one can say Jake wasn't tough,he makes Marciano look like a girl.
zenknown 2 years ago
So was Ray and how!!Ther best ever lb for lb. 202 wins 175 kos. Just a beautiful boxer puncher and of course many say the best ever to climb through the ropes. No none can say LaMotta wasn't tough. Tough as they come.
zenknown 2 years ago 2
agreed jake is tough AS NAILS
not many people can stand in the ring taking punches from Sugar
portilop 2 years ago
sugar was great but remember that for la motta the greatest problem was how to lose weight. before this match he had to lose 20 kilos!!!
skyjuke2006 2 years ago
you stupid fuck hamza!! There is no one who could take a beating like Lamotta, would be funny to see you take just one puch from sugar Ray U GAYLORD COCKSUCKER. Lamotta is like a fucking mountain, The man who never went down.
VikingChris85 2 years ago
He went down twice.
Grungadin 2 years ago
There was no knockout. Only a TKO for Sugar.
MaddZzee350 2 years ago
you never knocked me down ray...
jimmybaggo357 2 years ago
Right you are. Ray Robinson was great. But if Jake had been a couple years younger it might have changed a lot of things. That is my opinion of course but this was towards the end of his boxing career. The most amazing thing that we see is how hard as nails he was. Truly sad and amazing. Sweet.
poopiehead4891 2 years ago
They were about the same age.
ExplosiveThinMan 2 years ago
The Amazing SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, wow RAY is the greatest, the handspeed, the footwork, head and body movement, boxing mentality, simply a beatiful boxer to watch. R.I.P. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
paul4mula 2 years ago
lamotta got his arse handed to him....
hamza1947 2 years ago
Man,what a fight, it's sad that boxing is not like this anymore, too much money and hype and they have lost the true masters of the ring, eg, robinson, louis, la motta, ali. Plus noone around today is tough like jake la motta, he could get hit with heaps of shots and never fall or move back.
metua10 2 years ago
goddamn 6:53 sugar ray throws 5 punches in one second holy fucking shit he was fast
p4ulcha 2 years ago 2
It's amazing that all of those punches to Lamotta's head didn't give him Parkinson's syndrome.
Whyavier 2 years ago
man jake lamotta was one tough motherfucker. one a kind dude you don't see guys like him at all anymore.
p4ulcha 2 years ago
Actually it was Robinson who suffered from Alzheimer in his last years.
gianca60 2 years ago
huh? i never said nothing about anybody getting alzheimers. but you're right Sugar Ray did get alzheimer's and his wife went crazy paranoid
p4ulcha 2 years ago
My bad. My intention was to answer the guy who wrote about La Motta and Parkinson. Mistake!
gianca60 2 years ago
Alright. I know my user name is stupid. I'm sorry. But RAGING BULL is one of my very favorite films. I have also read the book as it contains what really happened. Jake was stubborn and hard as a rock. I love him. This fight clearly shows that Jake la motta NEVER WENT DOWN. Its amazing and sad at the same time. I have spent years trying to see this fight. Thank you for bringing it to you tube. The most incredible story is Jake's. Long live the champ!
poopiehead4891 3 years ago
yeah bro he was one tough motherfucker but he got murdered in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre which was also against Sugar Ray never got knocked down(of course not) but took such a bad beating the ref had to stop it. which goes to show how awesome Sugar Ray was and how fucking tough Lamotta was
p4ulcha 2 years ago
hey does anyone know what weight of gloves they used in this fight they look tiny
irishrover1967 3 years ago